fury

[hushed gust]

it's not funnel, but- "funnel". keep WW stacks, and reap the storm procs more.

[grim star]

ah edited!

[west parcel]

its funnel guys

it looks good on logs

[winter shoal]

[languid willow]

If we lie and say we have funnel

Everyone will think we are arcane mages

[olive wraith]

Tell everyone it’s funnel. Even if it’s not

[languid willow]

And we will always be meta

[azure horizon]

ty kindly

[olive wraith]

Only if we keep the 4p as a talent

[hushed gust]

i am hoping they remember to transfer the 4p bonus into our actual kit.

[languid willow]

Added hero tent

Talent*

[olive wraith]

I do wish they incentivize a bt press every once in a while tbh

[spring fossil]

so if i have raging blow stacks and bt is off cd i rather press raging blow?

[hushed gust]

spam it with enrage and whirlwind stacks.

[spring fossil]

jsut ina vacuum its better than bt, funny

[olive wraith]

Slayer pretty much ignores bt

[dusk slate]

what are the odds fury is going to get nerfed back again?

[olive wraith]

No one here knows

[dusk slate]

cause my push tank wants me to gear a fury, but if it's gonna get shot soon since it was overbuffed i kinda would rather be lazy

[olive wraith]

Personally I think it’s unlikely considering we aren’t giga in raid. And we still aren’t the strongest m+ spec

[swift dust]

We don't bring enough utility for the amount of damage we're doing to be nerfed, imo

[olive wraith]

Uh oh the u word

[swift dust]

M+ is all about utility.

[drifting token]

If your tank friend isn't gonna also gear up a brew tank against his will to accommodate your preferred buff then you shouldn't be expected to gear a fury against your will

[spark sphinx]

can someone pls look at this https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ZnKaHJNdpfX4Wm8q?fight=53&type=damage-done&source=468 and tell me what i do wrong :/ it feels right, but according to log, its bad :/

[dusk slate]

he's a brew LMAO

[hushed gust]

for the sake of bias, i say gear a fury warrior anyway.

[swift dust]

I'd love to have a consistent Brew tank for M+

[olive wraith]

It’s not

[hushed gust]

my group are crackheads and run prot/fury as mainstays

[swift dust]

Maybe I'm just jealous of Frost and their grips.

[winter shoal]

try throwing your log into wowanalyzer

don't have time to review rn but that should help

Also compare your log to higher performing ones and see where the differences are

[dire vigil]

Been gearing a FDK and it is a lot of fun

[heavy sparrow]

This tier set actually makes fury really good in m+

Good damage on literally every single pull

Whether you're using thane or slayer

And st is also good

[swift dust]

The issue I'm having with Slayer atm is breaking the habit of using Rampage as soon as it lights up.

[brittle dock]

That's my issue. FDK and Fury are both really fun right now but there are only so many hours a day.

[heavy sparrow]

GOod candidates to become the next hero talents

[hushed gust]

that's bladestorm CDR, so the difference is actually too close to notice.

[drifting token]

I'm not a fan of fdk's massive reliance on pillar.

Otherwise I love the theming

[spark sphinx]

yea sry just saw there is a log channel, will post it there and review analyzer first

[swift dust]

Right, but I do it right after BS, so I miss out on the juicier Rampage damage form when I shoudl ber spamming RB.

[brittle dock]

with the prevalance of "damage amp" phases, pillar is a benefit, not drawback.

[swift dust]

Just years of muscle memory.

[winter shoal]

This is like a 0.5% dps optimization

Really not worth stressing about

[olive wraith]

45 second burst is pretty damn strong

[swift dust]

Hmm, then I'm just not playing very optimally. only doing at best 6 million dps in 10+ keys

[drifting token]

Overalls vary wildly from dungeon to dungeon, can't just say "keys"

6mil is excellent for Dawn but pretty damn low for Eco

[olive wraith]

Your overall is highly dependent on factors outside of your control

[swift dust]

That's fair @drifting token

How the tank pulls, right?

[olive wraith]

Sure you can execute (pun intended) your rotation perfectly. But if the pulls are small or chained in a way that doesn’t help your damage will suffer

Ya

[swift dust]

I am liking it better than Thane.

[olive wraith]

It’s def more consistent between pulls

[swift dust]

In theroy thane is fun, but RNGesus not proccing Ionizing at pull start was getting annoying

[spring fossil]

and with anger management we desync reck and avatar, jsut press on cd or what?

[olive wraith]

On cd

[spring fossil]

thy

[heavy sparrow]

Just press on cd

Unga bunga

[spring fossil]

Reap the storm jsut triggers from bt right? so underwhelming we even prio rb in aoe? seems odd

[olive wraith]

Please read the wowhead guide

And your tier set

[drifting token]

Read your 4pc set bonus

[spring fossil]

i did and i didnt xD

[heavy sparrow]

If you red the tier set you should know that reap procs from rb

[spring fossil]

ok thanks yes im a warrior and didnt stack int xD

[heavy sparrow]

Honestly, if there's one thing i don't quite like of either hero talents is how the procs are restricted to certain abilities only

[olive wraith]

You want reap to proc from everything?

[heavy sparrow]

In some cases it makes sense, like mark only affecting exe, but reap only working on bt, i don't like

It should be at least bt and rb, and maybe execute

[olive wraith]

This is how they change rotation from tier to tier

It would be boring to play the exact same way 5 years in a row

[heavy sparrow]

For thane, not a big fan that lightning procs from exe and rb, but not bt which is the hardest hitting

[junior oyster]

I dunno, I could play this current slayer fury thing for a bit

[heavy sparrow]

Lightning itself could probably take a buff anyway

At least in st

Since thane is significantly below slayer

[olive wraith]

Ionizing does a lot in st

[heavy sparrow]

That's a tier set, but i have a pretty strong feeling that these tier sets could become the next 3 hero talents

[olive wraith]

I’m still a fan of having thane as the aoe spec and slayer as the st spec

Having each hero tree excel at a different thing is good imo

That’s why we need thane buffs

[heavy sparrow]

Nah, the only thing that's good is whether the tree feels different to play or not, in terms of balance it should be as close as possible

[drifting token]

Angry stompy feels good still imo

Maybe throw like a choice node in the hero tree where if tclap is used on one target get a debuff applied that makes more lightning attract to them

[heavy sparrow]

Use this in st, and this in aoe is not a real choice, it also means that you can never quite get the best of both worlds, and when other specs can do just that it usually means that your spec will be somewhat lacking

But these tier set really do hard carry fury performance in aoe

They are insanely powerful

[drifting token]

Ok and when you have the best of both worlds you then have a hero talent that never gets touched for any content anymore like now

[heavy sparrow]

Not really, if they can balance them properly you can use either.

Like how frost dk can use either rider or death, they are both good

[drifting token]

They will never be equal, that doesn't exist

Any everyone will always use the one ahead even if it's 0.001% ahead.

[heavy sparrow]

That's just being a meta slave.

[drifting token]

Yeah, welcome to online gaming

[heavy sparrow]

And it';s clearly not true otherwise literally everyone would gravitate towards a single spec

[olive wraith]

Isn’t it? Before the bug fix people were still playing slayer in keys for prio damage

[heavy sparrow]

So the fact that people don't do that, already disproves that

Usually if it's within 5% performance it's good

Max 10%, but no more than that

[drifting token]

People are doing that lol

[heavy sparrow]

Meta slaves are doing that

[drifting token]

Homie 99% of the population are meta slaves

[olive wraith]

People are swapping to slayer because it’s suddenly “better” even though thane has comparable overalls

[winter shoal]

P sure fdk plays DB in every raid boss now and most (if not all) keys

[olive wraith]

In a perfect world I agree everything should be playable and perform with the slightest difference

[heavy dock]

ez lmao

[compact knot]

my overalls shot up 1m dps when i switched to slayer

[heavy sparrow]

That's just false, that can be disproved by simply looking at what people are playing, if it was true, everyone would play the best spec available, not talking about only fury, if the argument is true why does it matter whether it's applkied to a class or a spec? It's the same thing. That clearly doesn't happen, so the point can just be dismissed because the premise is false.

Incentives are not a black and white thing, peopole will tend to gravitate towards stronger options, but just because people prefer apples, doesn't mean they get rid of all oranges

[olive wraith]

But perfect balance doesn’t exist

[winter shoal]

Could've milked another 10-20k out of that easily

[winter shoal]

Holy essaying

[cunning condor]

hey, Defender's Armor Kit Defender's Armor Kit or Stormbound Armor Kit Stormbound Armor Kit

whats the difference ?

[olive wraith]

The armor one is best

Idk the name

[heavy dock]

meh 10-20 w/e

[chilly fractal]

Defender’s

[cunning condor]

they are both armor

[plush zephyr]

Go to wowhead, then fury section, and then go to Consumables

[heavy sparrow]

Balance is like the most overrated and overtalked issue ever, it's important, but not nearly as important as people want it to be.

To a degree if a spec is 10% behind in st, that's a problem, but to pretend that everyone would play the spec that has 1% extra damage is kinda absurd, because if it was true, then everyone would just play the best spec available all the time, which could mean another class altoghether

[olive wraith]

Oh idk the names of those

[plush zephyr]

Will show you what enchants are recommended

[drifting token]

That is exactly what it means man, that's literally one of the biggest stereotypical behaviors of every online playerbase ever, as soon as one thing is surpassed, it vanishes off the face of the earth. It's odd that this is new info

[chilly fractal]

Storm bound is Stamina

[olive wraith]

Literally fury rn

[heavy sparrow]

Ok, you don't seem to actually understand the implications of what you're saying, and im not gonna repeat the same thing for the 3rd time

[olive wraith]

You’re saying people don’t swap specs to increase 1% damage?

Am I correct in that

[plush zephyr]

Target cap is the most overrated overtalked issue imo but maybe that’s cause I’m in warr channels lmao

[olive wraith]

And utility

[plush zephyr]

stares at mages

[olive wraith]

Help me understand. You’re saying people don’t swap specs for minor dps increases. How is fury not a prime example of that happening. People are swapping off thane

[modest condor]

🍿

[plush zephyr]

Shiiit people swap entire mains

[drifting token]

You're absolutely right in that it is absurd and silly, but it absolutely does happen, always has and always will

[plush zephyr]

For a dps increase

[drifting token]

As long as humans have egos they will chase the 1%

[plush zephyr]

I don’t think it’s that

Wow is a social credit game in some ways and your credit is your dps (sometimes) and blizzard gives some specs a shit hand to work with so people would rather just go play something better

Sad, but true

[drifting token]

And where do you think having high credit goes? To your head

[plush zephyr]

Not really. That’s some people’s goal.

This is a very “chase first place” game in a lot of people’s eyes

[main sierra]

Hey all, so I'm in need of some DPS help. My fury warrior is ilvl 713 with 4 piece tier and other bis items. Stat weights are in order. I just started using Slayer in keys. But my DPS just seems terrible. I've read rotation guides but even in dungeons that I feel very comfortable in, my dps is still quite low. Any ideas on what I should do or change?

[drifting token]

Oh come on that's naive. Nobody's above doing a silent fistpump when their name is top of meter after an encounter, it's always at least subconsciously about beating the ppl around you. Even in pve we're always pvping

[olive wraith]

1 stop using stat weights and start using top gear sims. 2 we need more context

[plush zephyr]

Idk what you’re disagreeing about or what we’re even talking about anymore

Ima eat some meatballs

[winter shoal]

I absolutely pumped my fist after topping on fractillus

I may have autism tho

[main sierra]

I use Top Gear Sims and follow those

[olive wraith]

Okay perfect

[drifting token]

Everyone does bud it's cool

[olive wraith]

Do you have any details breakdowns

Or logs

As an exercise can you tell me. Fresh pull. What do you do in a key

[main sierra]

Not at the moment. When I start a pull I macro Recklessness and Avatar, then Rampage, then Bladestorm, I hit Raging Blow 2-3 times. If it's a mob then I use whirlwind. I mean, am I doing things out of order do you think?

[lapis shadow]

What do you do on a pull without bladestorm

Say the pull right after the pack cleanup

[brittle dock]

charge?

[lapis shadow]

🤔

[main sierra]

Oh yeah I charge almost every pull

[young swan]

redundant question cause you should never go into a pull without bladestorm

[olive wraith]

Are you saving bladestorm for the next pull

[young swan]

starting a pull without bladestorm is just a straight up misplay and usually the biggest source of dps loss

[main sierra]

I use bladestorm almost every pull unless I know adds will be popping up in the encounter and I wait

[olive wraith]

But is it available at the start of each pull

[main sierra]

Yes it's available

[olive wraith]

I wouldn’t hold it in a pull if you expect tank is gonna pull more fwiw

It sounds like you should be fine. So without like logs or breakdowns or vods

Idk man

[main sierra]

I mean, I literally do more DPS by quite a bit using Thane in keys lol

[olive wraith]

What key level

[main sierra]

12-14

[olive wraith]

And how much average overall do you consider low

[main sierra]

Earlier using Slayer my overall dps was 3m =/

[hot rampart]

forever ago I used the command to increase my max camerica distance, but I don't like that as war. Anyone know how to change it back?

[young swan]

were u just like

not runnign aoe talents

[lapis shadow]

Hahah

[fickle cedar]

How is that possible though ? What build are you running

[young swan]

its a genuine question

[lapis shadow]

Send talents

[olive wraith]

Ya 3m huge mistakes are being made

[lapis shadow]

I was thinking more he doesn't have bladestorm up and that without bladestorm he should BT

[olive wraith]

Raid talents could be one

[lapis shadow]

But 3m???

[drifting token]

You get more than 3m just hitting one mob at a time

[main sierra]

I use the talent Slayer build off of Archon and Wowhead

[fickle cedar]

Currently slayer pulls between 7-10M depending on key and comp

[olive wraith]

The m+ talents

?

Are you sure they’re active during key

[main sierra]

yes mythics

[olive wraith]

You tracking ww stacks?

[fickle cedar]

Then you're not spamming RB enough I suppose, thats how the build works, any logs ?

[olive wraith]

It’s more than this

We don’t have enough info though

Just making shots in the dark at this point

[main sierra]

I don't have logs right now. Just today is when i changed everything to Slayer build

[olive wraith]

No details either?

[lapis shadow]

Maybe someone logged one of your recent runs

[olive wraith]

Doubt

[turbid bay]

Some logs of you hitting the 5t dummies in dorn

[lapis shadow]

Otherwise you just gotta come back 2mrw with that log

Or today idk I'm EU

😴

[fickle cedar]

Yeah go hit 5t dummies for like a minute and share your details

[main sierra]

okay I'l do that

how often should I hit raging blow?

[drifting token]

As often as your hand muscle allows you

[olive wraith]

Do you really not run details?

[main sierra]

I run details

[olive wraith]

Are you not home

A details breakdown would help a little

[main sierra]

Not at the moment

[olive wraith]

Whenever you do get home send a damage breakdown of am overall run

[main sierra]

Okay will do

[digital mauve]

701 ilvl, but unfortunately only 961 IO (been only be doing RAID in HM)

[olive wraith]

That’s a highly competitive key range

People grinding 7 and higher for gilded and hero track

[digital mauve]

Well idk I feel like there's alaways an excuse

[olive wraith]

I mean what I said are facts lol

[undone flower]

It’s not really an excuse, in no world I take you with 900 Rio in a 7

[olive wraith]

Plus your io is a bit low

When people with 2500-3k are applying

[digital mauve]

what IO then?

[drifting token]

At least 1500

[olive wraith]

It’s not a firm metric

[undone flower]

At least all your keys timed rio

[olive wraith]

But when you’re lower than most of the applicants you’re not getting invites

[digital mauve]

wut

[compact knot]

my fdk gets accepted to 10s at 1100

im also 710 ilvl but

[undone flower]

900 you are missing half the dungeons

[digital mauve]

true

[olive wraith]

2k rating is like all 7s?

[dire vigil]

Me but 702. I get accepted faster into 10s than my 714 warrior

[drifting token]

More or less, can be some 6s if you have some 8s etc

[brittle dock]

anyone else feel like reap the storm proc delay the next button? is it all in my head?

[undone flower]

If they see your man rio, you are accepted because your main

[digital mauve]

Ok so I gotta grind to get at least 1500k?

And do at least 6+ on all dungeons

[olive wraith]

It’ll help

But not guaranteed to get you invites

Like I said. People with 2.5k-3k are applying too

As boring as this advice is. Run your own keys

[plush flower]

list your own key, tbh probably faster filling that getting spam declined

[undone flower]

what would heavly help is do you own key and suffer the long wait at the begining

or ask help of a friend, he helps you get a decent key lvl in your bag, you are free now

[drifting token]

Well, free to wait 2 hrs for a tank at least

[olive wraith]

Nah tanks aren’t that bad at that key level

[undone flower]

more like 10 minute, but yes

still shorter than tagging with 900

[plush zephyr]

Not even

[olive wraith]

Idr lol. My keys were all over the place

[plush zephyr]

Got 2k on an alt and it was like 7/5s and a 3 but they were all 2 chested

[turbid bay]

Personally from my experience have been having a pretty good run getting invited to 15-16 as fury this season. Word must have got out that we are good

[dire vigil]

I just connected it, so that’s not it

[plush zephyr]

100%

[hushed gust]

i'd love to do 15's and 16's. sadly, i can't even get a good group going for a 13 halls...

[olive wraith]

I’m still struggling to get my 14hoa

Partially because I play pretty late for the states so options are a bit more limited

[hushed gust]

outside of off days, i fee ya.

if we had more control over our keys, i think the grind wouldn't be nearly as bad.

[charred flint]

did u clear all 15s already?

[turbid bay]

I think im missing 3

[charred flint]

I havent had tooo much trouble getting invited to the tier im currently trying to complete after i done +5 of 'em

[turbid bay]

Hoa, psf and flood iirc

[charred flint]

im missing evertyhing but the freebies from tazavesh and eco lmao

my 16 dawn breaker turned into a 13 lul

[turbid bay]

Oof

[olive wraith]

Oh lord

Dawn isn’t even that bad

[charred flint]

Had a fucking feral with Boomy gear on the 15

[turbid bay]

Dawn is kinda free imo

[hushed gust]

dawn get sbad when the game starts acting up.

[charred flint]

dawn is healer havy

heavy

[turbid bay]

True

[charred flint]

but yeah its alright

[hushed gust]

buggy-ass mess on the ship.

[charred flint]

on the 16 somehow a 3400 io mage died 4 times on first pack

[olive wraith]

Psf and flood now the hardest keys?

[charred flint]

HoA still pretty tight

[olive wraith]

Ara felt pretty good

[charred flint]

but yeah i'd say those 3

[olive wraith]

Haven’t been in hoa after nerf

[turbid bay]

I havent ran hoa after nerf yeh

[charred flint]

I didnt time a HoA 14 by 14 seconds with 3 deaths and no wipes

[hushed gust]

HoA has been nerfed, but it's still interrupt reliant. too many tanks are dying to overpulling as well.

[charred flint]

Shits still rough

[quiet breach]

anyone who "can't get into groups" is trying to aim too high of keys for what their Io is

then they blame everyone else except themself

[turbid bay]

Yeah i think im getting invited a 1 in 3 of 15s im applying for atm

[charred flint]

i mean its a bit silly to not get invited to 15s if you have some cleared

[quiet breach]

do every level 1 level at a time

[olive wraith]

I have all 14s timed and a 13 hoa. I can’t get into a 14 hoa

[quiet breach]

and u won't have issues

[charred flint]

Took me a while too lol

[quiet breach]

i don't believe you or you haven't tried hard enough

literally the entire season

[olive wraith]

?

[quiet breach]

i get in within 1 minute

[olive wraith]

lol what

[quiet breach]

if I stay at my key level

[olive wraith]

Maybe you’re the exception bud

[quiet breach]

I am a fury warrior just like you

[olive wraith]

Right I’m saying maybe you’re lucky

[quiet breach]

it takes longer if I try and skip

[olive wraith]

I’m not skipping lmao

[quiet breach]

like I was waiting 10-15 mins if I try to do 14s when I still have 12s

still eventually got in tho

and if I bumped down to 13 insta invite

within 1 min

lol

maybe ur play at shit hours

if u play at peak ain't no WAYYYY

[hushed gust]

getting in the key isn't my issue, it's the key actually timing.

[olive wraith]

Ya there’s a fair share of bricks lol

I should actually run some 12s for weekly

[turbid bay]

The group wiping to stupid shit is the issue

[quiet breach]

I timed a 14 dawnbreaker yesterday with only 13 seconds left, 4 deaths 0 wipes

[olive wraith]

So I have a vault

[quiet breach]

I didn't look at the DPS tho maybe it was just low ahhhh dps

is it just me or does the last boss of dawnbreaker have an insane amount of health?

[turbid bay]

Dawn with 4 deaths and barely timed? Was your tank pulling really slow?

[quiet breach]

actually now that I think about it yes

he would randomly stop for 5-10 seconds

lol

[turbid bay]

Jeez

[charred flint]

im a dg short of 3200

[olive wraith]

Why would I lie about not getting invites lol

[quiet breach]

stinky ilvl get ur weight up

[quiet breach]

is there barely any 14 hoas listed

usually I am looking for multiple diff keys at once

that's prob why my experience is different

just start looking for all 15s

[olive wraith]

Missing hoa. But ya usually slim picking

[charred flint]

I just search filtering what i have already done

[olive wraith]

Ya I’ll be applying to 15s too

[quiet breach]

do u smartly apply

like look for juicy warrior spots

pick tank only or healer only listings

etc

[olive wraith]

Ya good warrior comps mostly

[quiet breach]

also do u swap off after it's been sitting a couple mins to another listing?

[olive wraith]

If I see mage, vdh I don’t apply

Yes lol

What’s ur ilvl? Didn’t think 710 was that far behind

[quiet breach]

it's not lol I was meming

mine is 714 tho

[charred flint]

It isnt if you consider that we have dual wields

[bright ledge]

hey dumb question do i prioritize exe over rb in boss fight or jjust with 2+ stacks

[quiet breach]

just with 2 stacks of MFE or SD

[charred flint]

just when kaching

tells you to

[bright ledge]

ok

i do when kaching

[quiet breach]

that

get cones weakaura

it's on the wowhead guide

on the rotation page

[bright ledge]

change the katching for other sound tho i was goin crazy

[quiet breach]

when kaching press execute

[olive wraith]

Damn you lol. I thought I was fucked cause I don’t mythic raid

[bright ledge]

thanks

[quiet breach]

TO be fair I just won myth belt and legs yesterday lol

don't even have enough gilded to send the belt to 723

[charred flint]

im this close to 3200

[quiet breach]

it's 717

[bright ledge]

also is it thane better than slayer in floodgate?

[quiet breach]

also has a socket

[charred flint]

no

thane isnt better at anything

[bright ledge]

first pull is fury vs tank

[quiet breach]

no

[quiet breach]

slayer is better at everything

[bright ledge]

Ok gotcha i hate thane

[quiet breach]

we are a one hero talent spec currently

[charred flint]

thane will deal more aoe damage sometimes when proc goels wild

but

you will lose a lot of st

[quiet breach]

thane is still good just not as good as slayer

[plush zephyr]

What a glow up Slayer has had. I’m so proud of it.

[bright ledge]

when thane procs feels like im using arms, slow af

[ivory sinew]

Hey guys. So with the execute priority with the WA it's as easy as only send it when you hear it? Otherwise RB and rampage all day?

[charred flint]

yeah the not insta proc

is super weird

[quiet breach]

only time you should use thane currently is soul hunters fight, and even then some people will say slayer is better

[bright ledge]

nah I deleted my thane build and everything

[charred flint]

if thane had insta proc and it felt like

[bright ledge]

fk that

[charred flint]

fucking

old sd

with massacre

shit would feel good

but na

it has to be a half gcd delay for some reason

[quiet breach]

I like slayer alot more cuz it has nuance

thane is braindead

[charred flint]

it doesnt really have nuance if you use weak aura

but its a lot more fun

[plush zephyr]

It does

[quiet breach]

it was fun to at first but how simple the spec is got boring

[quiet breach]

in m+ it absolutely does

at least

[charred flint]

idk man not sure if i call nuance spamming rb if big pull

[errant leaf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1413296803834499114/reaptech.gif

[charred flint]

and doing normal rotation when not

but maybe for our smooth brains

[bright ledge]

boring and you feel like slow you down

[charred flint]

we warriors after all

[quiet breach]

if you just only RB you are not gonna get the most out of slayer in m+

as funny as this screenshot is

[bright ledge]

its just better to

[quiet breach]

it's not that simple, just say u don't wanna think and default to going for RB reset high rolls bro

[ivory sinew]

Can I ask what the nuances in m+ are? Legitimate question. Just got back into fury and want to improve

[charred flint]

ELI5 then

[olive wraith]

Best way to start is reading the wowhead guide

[charred flint]

Not trying to be a jerk its just like

[olive wraith]

Practice on dummies a bit

[charred flint]

From what i know

[olive wraith]

Then. Come back

[charred flint]

ITs literally how big your pack is

[quiet breach]

deciding when you want to rampage vs send another RB, deciding if you want to send a second bladestorm or hold for the next pack, deciding if you want to consume MFE/SD instead of send an RB

[ivory sinew]

Definitely read that and been doing well overall but looking for niche things in n+

[olive wraith]

Bladestorm usage is the big one

[quiet breach]

also maintaining meat cleaver is more challenging as slayer than thane because as thane u just constantly and barely have to think about it

[olive wraith]

Like iskus said deciding wether you can squeeze a second bs in and still have it on the start of next pull

[charred flint]

ah

idk

i feel like its not really a choice

if its a high key

[quiet breach]

if you just

[charred flint]

you send 2

[charred flint]

if not

you

[olive wraith]

If you have a dedicated group I’d also highly recommend trash on boss

[charred flint]

dont

[quiet breach]

u are just trying to high roll RB resets

yes you can mog dps meters sometimes

but other times you just have hella gaps in your rotation

[charred flint]

the operation whatever dg feels good

[ivory sinew]

That all makes sense. Thanks guys!

[charred flint]

doing 12M on boss

shits insane

[quiet breach]

I am not saying slayer is difficult compared to other dps specs

it's still easier than average from what I've seen

but compared to thane it's way more nuanced

[charred flint]

yeah thane is smooth brain af

u just press bt

and tb

[quiet breach]

the slayer hotfix came in just in time for me

right as I was starting to get bored of thane

:toobased:

[plush zephyr]

Same

Well bored of Col

[quiet breach]

I have barely played arms

done some keys with hekili last season xd

that's my arms experience

I like fury but I need to learn arms properly at some point

[plush zephyr]

Not missing much, but if it did get some st love you’d see Col being played the most imo

[charred flint]

My raid lead doesnt want me to not swap to webs

so sad

such a big dps loss

them frenzy stacks

[plush zephyr]

honestly love swapping between the three specs

Funny swapping to prot and it’s like unlocking the rest of your keyboard

Kinda same with arms

[charred flint]

Prot is WAY too many buttons for me

wanted to offtank but jesus

[hot rampart]

lesgooo

[charred flint]

grats

[olive wraith]

Grats king

[hot rampart]

ty ❤️

[plush zephyr]

[grand coral]

any dps wars that have done mythic fractillus and just stacked with spell reflect + defensives?

seems like we can just have em overlap

[charred flint]

i remember on hungering devour we could just ignore it

[grand coral]

its not immunable with spell reflect so dont wanna kill my dps war buds haha

[misty edge]

just stand on another tanky melee. its no issue

[turbid bay]

Is spell reflect enough to live

Or also need def stance?

[snow edge]

2 stack seems to be fine, with SR (D Stance if worried)

[undone flower]

Almost every melee can be stacked with another dude

[misty edge]

sr is fine for the standard breaks

[snow edge]

If you’re topped it should be ok, otherwise I’d D Stance by default

[turbid bay]

Yeh ok

[undone flower]

I always clip with the rogue or dh next to me, no one dies

[quiet breach]

I'm actually decent at prot but I have barely touched arms

the fantasy of prot is cool

but I don't like tanking

[turbid bay]

I like prot, not a fan of arms feels pretty bad when you get rage starved

But i will play, if its better then fury

[olive wraith]

First demolish in a pack is huge dopamine though

[smoky vale]

except first demolish always sucks

[olive wraith]

Idk you spike pretty high on first demo

[turbid bay]

Outside of mbg and demo its kinda eh

[olive wraith]

Agreed

[smoky vale]

i mean having to build it

[olive wraith]

I miss fury having burst. But I think I prefer current fury to arms profile

[smoky vale]

vs just getting 8 globals

[olive wraith]

Oh ya building it is ass

[turbid bay]

Yeah the 10 stacks on first pull

[red berry]

tbh i wasn't able to do 35 mil openings in gambit as thane

[turbid bay]

And the tank is just body pulling everything

[red berry]

i can do that as slayer

[olive wraith]

[red berry]

its not like that is maintained

[turbid bay]

I havent really looked but 35mil spike seems high

[red berry]

it is very b ig

and its the highest ive ever seen it go with reap

[olive wraith]

I def spike more on thane

[red berry]

i havent played thane since the slayer changes really

so im sure i could spike higher

but im not doing that

[turbid bay]

Yeah same, should do a run on thane at some point again

It is pretty chill spec

[red berry]

i enjoy thane but slayer is just better

[turbid bay]

For sure

Slayer is more effort, but i like dmg so slayer it is

[red berry]

idk if id say slayer is more effort, honestly

i think trying to game stacks of blast between pulls

was more annoying

or running dry

and not getting any refreshes

[turbid bay]

Yeah but thats just min maxing

[plush zephyr]

Actually really cool. If arms does get a buff you’ll be able to do something refreshing and learn arms.

[turbid bay]

I wouldnt say its much effort pooling tb

[red berry]

depends how kind RNG is

i have a far easier time building my next bladestorm

which is really the only conditional that matters pack to pack as slayer

[rain thicket]

sometimes it feels like its worth to press EXECUTE instnatly when SD procs , cause BS will be up so fast

[turbid bay]

Slayer needs the bs so need to always assess if you can send or not.

[honest sundial]

I always play stormbolt in keys

[red berry]

assuming you are getting ready to move and you don't have it, it's good to concern yourself with building it

[olive wraith]

We still press execute lol

[red berry]

but you can weave it between raging

[plush zephyr]

THE KING IS HERE

[vocal flame]

last question, I think. Do I spam execute whenever it procs to reduce bladestorm, or only on 2 stacks?

[olive wraith]

You don’t ever spam it

Only ever when conditionals are met

[honest sundial]

I am no king

[plush zephyr]

Shiiiiit

[vocal flame]

so 2 stacks of sudden death then?

[plush zephyr]

3700? Not a king? Ok

[olive wraith]

Or mfe

[plush zephyr]

Too humble

[olive wraith]

Just get the wa

[honest sundial]

Also please don't look at my damage breakdowns, they probably suck big time as i haven't played many keys since slayer changes and honestly have to practice a lot

[vocal flame]

MFE?

[plush zephyr]

too late

[grim star]

aight how do we find this gif lol

[olive wraith]

Marked for execution

Get the wa. Listen for kachings

Profit

[vocal flame]

kk, I use the Luxthos weak auras so I thought that might be built in

[sand crest]

I hope we get kaching wa's in midnight too

[olive wraith]

It’s not built in

#dps-faq in the wa section

You can grab it there

[quiet breach]

stickers on this server

[random lynx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/284226322585354241/1413178488713642104/GIF_20250904_160623_708.gif

[plush zephyr]

Mmmmm we’ll see

Blizzard really, really wants to kill WAs

[olive wraith]

If they just made the ui sufficient I’d be fine with that

[turbid bay]

Wouldnt care if they deleted WA personally as long as we have custom hud stuff

[plush zephyr]

I thought they were going to be leaving ui and collectible stuff alone. Just combat UIs/WA

[turbid bay]

I think frac is perfect example where wa ruins a fight

[viscid condor]

ngl guys i might never clear a dungeon again without weakaura

or killa boss

[plush zephyr]

You’d be fine

I’ve all but removed it

[olive wraith]

Idk they’ve mentioned making nameplates easier to recognize priority targets

[plush zephyr]

Audio queues are turned off, just pay attention to what the ad or boss is doing above their head

Plater going away….

[olive wraith]

Which makes me think even plater is toast

[plush zephyr]

Idk if I can deal

[viscid condor]

if it sucks do you guys wanna protest

shut the discord down type shit

[turbid bay]

Even wa like the execute kaching you definitely dont need if your looking out for it

[candid spoke]

Hey guys. in single target can you give me a level prio list? i mean which level more important first then second ...

[chilly fractal]

Finally got a hero stone idol

[plush zephyr]

I have the kaching off, just go by light

[rain thicket]

anyone has a good Plater Suggestion for me which looks clean and nice?

[turbid bay]

I prefer a bite

[slim coral]

Jundies

Or use atrocities

[rain thicket]

any one without subbing?

[slim coral]

Jundies

[olive wraith]

Does the Blizz “wa” track debuffs

[turbid bay]

Not sure but plater tracks mfe

[upper trellis]

the current cooldown manager sucks donkey nuts

[olive wraith]

Quazii

[candid spoke]

In single Bloodthirst have more prio than raging blow or Execute?

[winter shoal]

No, read the wowhead guide

[winter shoal]

+1 for jundies, goat plater profile and 100% free. Quazii is also good but I prefer the aesthetic of jundies

[rain thicket]

yeah im using quazi right now and wanted to switch but i try out jungies now, ty ❤️

[plush zephyr]

Tho if we all don’t have wa’s it’ll be an equal playing field right?

At least that’s how blizzard feels

[plush zephyr]

I had to scale Jundies up a bit, it’s the best but the default to me was super small

[turbid bay]

Jundies has a lot of qol stuff like the purple castbars when targetting you and can be reflected

[olive wraith]

No wa would be an indirect nerf to a lot of classes

Feral snap shot would be a huge skill diff

[turbid bay]

Just need to track the buff duration really

But yeh feral would be tricky

Heard outlaw would be hard as well

[olive wraith]

It’s more than buff duration no?

[turbid bay]

Buff duration and intensity

[olive wraith]

Afaik there’s quite a few things that would buff your next rake for instance

[turbid bay]

Cause you want to re-apply at the end iirc i havent done much with feral

[olive wraith]

It’s not so much that

[hot rampart]

what do you guys think would need to happen to war dps to actually want to bring them for a specific group utility? changing how battle shout works? buffing rally? just curious what your thoughts were

[olive wraith]

Your it bleeds depend on your buffs when they’re applied

[hot rampart]

I was thikning making battle shout do str/agi instead of attack power

[olive wraith]

It doesn’t dynamically update like fury

[viscid condor]

shado pan brew might be hella annoying lol

[turbid bay]

Yeah snapshotting

So you apply at start of buff and end

[olive wraith]

Or when you have a higher damage total mid bleed duration

[olive wraith]

I mean that’s almost what attack power does though

[hot rampart]

well it would apply to more than just your phys comps wouldn't it? maybe I don't understand how attack power works, but do your "caster melee" benefit from it like ret, dh, dk, etc?

[candid falcon]

man. someone in my guild just got caught attacking salhadaar only in the dragon burst phase

[olive wraith]

Their spell modifiers are attack power I’m pretty sure

[lilac osprey]

agi/str give attack power "caster melee" scale off attack power

[olive wraith]

They might not do physical damage with every ability. So they don’t like monk debuff

But they like attack power

Battle shout is like the best raid buff in game

[harsh fractal]

Attack power already buffs all strength and agility users

[wintry hatch]

dont raid a whole lot do we pump on myth loomithar?

[olive wraith]

We’re okay

[harsh fractal]

Doesn’t matter whether it’s an outlaw rogue doing pure physical damage or an unholy dk doing mostly magic

[hot rampart]

oh shit

okay

I never realized that, thank you

damn I wonder if that's a common bit of knowledge

[gilded pawn]

thats essentially the same thing btw

[hot rampart]

yeah we're discussing that now

[gilded pawn]

attack power is better

[hot rampart]

I just never knew. all my years of wow

[gilded pawn]

because it multiplies your weapon too

[gilded pawn]

yeah it isnt intuitive

[hot rampart]

man we need like a PSA

tell the masses

[gilded pawn]

for example mistweaver gets nothing

im fairly sure bshout is #1/#2 buff in the game right now

depends on composition

vs arcane int

[slender glen]

Is it worth delaying the use of Avatar or Reck by a few seconds (outside the opener) to ensure they line up or does that not matter anymore since both give shorter versions of each other?

[gilded pawn]

the latter

[hot rampart]

only thing I'll delay sometimes is BS if Ava comes up in a few seconds

[olive wraith]

They also will desync very often

[slender glen]

Yeah I noticed. Okay then

[sonic coyote]

+15 hoa

+14*

[plush ice]

Hey - the addon that critcake uses that makes his curser a circle, does anyone know what that's called by any chance

[sonic coyote]

cursortrails @plush ice

[plush ice]

ty

[sonic coyote]

np

[sudden tusk]

@smoky vale title is out shmio

[worn yoke]

anything more depressing than this just knowing you have no shot of filling that spot because FrOsT dK iS mEtA

[smoky vale]

is there an achievement

[worn yoke]

its a weakaura called something like ultimate cursor

[smoky vale]

@sudden tusk

[sudden tusk]

yeah have to log out then in

[olive wraith]

This is a key I def would never apply to

[chilly fractal]

Nah they are waiting for a Havoc

[blissful delta]

why not, bshout is good for pally

[slim coral]

No monk buff is cursed

[smoky vale]

do i have to log into my dk

or

[slim coral]

Log in

[sudden tusk]

not sure

[rough torrent]

i updated the execute WA and now it shows when ashen juggernaut is about to expire but execute isn't avail lol

[final birch]

Ye to get it

[sinful spoke]

the fact im gonna have to start checking rio profiles before i invite ppl

710 dk

im 693 bear

10 prio

[bright ledge]

nice fury over there

[sinful spoke]

listen bro

im just complaining

[bright ledge]

pug always a roulette doesnt matter the log

[sinful spoke]

i8m not gonna go into the fkin druid discord

them ppl weird

[bright ledge]

those are meta slaves

that DK just picked it up cause meta

like most of them

are you the druid tank?

[smoky vale]

@sudden tusk @final birch @eternal sundial @whole remnant @fleet sorrel @pallid tangle

[sudden tusk]

woo

[bright ledge]

how you got that in s3 loll

[smoky vale]

because it takes them 5 weeks to give i out

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/perfetto-yes-gif-26163077

That on your DK or warrior?

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/those-who-mow-those-who-know-gif-6741124947321800836

[sudden tusk]

hes a little red man

: (

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-yui-hirasawa-disappointment-gif-15673751

[modest condor]

my a disappointment?

what's disappointing about my a?

[thick fossil]

Oh, his title was on a DK. I give him shit cause he's a friend and knows I'm just teasing.

[winter shoal]

Lies

Gio has no friends

[thick fossil]

[smoky vale]

you lie for fun

[winter shoal]

False

I don't have fun

[charred flint]

yay

spider down

fuck that bugged ass hitbox

its so shit with the purple puddles

[thick fossil]

The purple on purple on purple, while soaking a giant zone that blocks most of the floor.

[charred flint]

and u have to be

REAL MELEE

to be able to hit it

[thick fossil]

Meanwhile, Paladin and DK are way back going " la la la la."

[winter shoal]

Then you to go forge and get a nice shift over to pink on pink on pink

[charred flint]

its like they didnt learn

from CN

red on red

[thick fossil]

Not wrong, lol

[charred flint]

on denny

was amazing

nyalotha was terrible too right

purp on purp

[winter shoal]

what the fucks up dennys

[thick fossil]

Yeah, especially during the massacre in P3

[charred flint]

denathrius

last boss from cn

[winter shoal]

https://youtu.be/xbPwaAFHDG8?si=tveCzBvzbiSRIvB4&t=101

[thick fossil]

A mosh pit in a denny's, shit that's something I'd expect at a Waffle house...

[winter shoal]

Second time this week I've linked the dennys grand slam in skyhold

You mfs need to learn culture

[thick fossil]

I don't know man, I've seen some wild ass mosh pits in my days. That one is pretty fucking tame.

[winter shoal]

Bro they are in a Denny's

[charred flint]

the only moshpits i care about is when mc ride is up on the stand

NOIDED

[winter shoal]

There's only so much moshing you can do inside of a restaurant

[thick fossil]

While I don't really condone violence, I was standing beside a mosh pit once and a guy suckered me with an elbow. His prick had it out for girls that night I guess. He had jumped off stage earlier and kicked a girl in the face, then elbowed me. I don't think he was expecting a girl to fight though.

[winter shoal]

Crowdkilling in general is very cringe

I mean misogyny is also cringe

I should probably have stated that one first

[thick fossil]

Yeah, I basically choke slammed him onto the floor. Police watched it all take place, so I just walked away.

[modest condor]

mosh pits scare me

[charred flint]

the beggining really made me thing you about to talk about charlie kirk ngl

[winter shoal]

At most shows, if you're not actively in the pit then nobody's gonna mess with you

Hence crowdkilling being cringe

[modest condor]

i dont mean being near a mosh pit scares me

[thick fossil]

Yeah, this clown was just being a piece of shit.

[charred flint]

my guildie said he alligned with his political views 🙁

how do i deal

[thick fossil]

He was out to hurt ppl, which isn't usually the case in a mosh pit. Dispite what it looks like.

[modest condor]

block and pretend you dont know them

[charred flint]

taht was an crazy live leak to

[winter shoal]

I've BEAN saying that mosh pits and heavy shows in general are akin to roller coasters where you feel like you're in danger but you are actually completely safe

But bozos and clowns ruin that for everyone

[thick fossil]

There are some crazy 10000 ppl mosh pits and no one gets hurt. Than you can have the 20 ppl where they try and kill each other, practicing their karate and all that shit.

[modest condor]

rollercoasters also scared me for a long time

[thick fossil]

Some rollercoasters I just nope out of.

When I see old wooden frames, or the whole damn thing seems to shake. Nope, nope.

[charred flint]

i had a friend who lost a tooth

getting punched in a moshpit

by a really famous brazilian musician

like idk if eddie vedder fucked his shit up

[thick fossil]

I had two front teeth chipped from the guy elbowing me.

[winter shoal]

Brazil mentioned

Sepultura going 🅱️razy or

[charred flint]

u brazilian too?

[thick fossil]

Rooots bloody Roots!

[winter shoal]

No I'm american

[winter shoal]

That song is lowkey ass lmao

Sepultura have some bops but that is not one of them

[charred flint]

im not into metal

but nice sepultura is like really famous in the metalhead scene right

[thick fossil]

Igor Cavalera was one of the drummers that got me to pick up the instrument.

[charred flint]

no one outside of jazz circles care about

[winter shoal]

Sepultura are pretty famous ya

[thick fossil]

Igor and Vinny Paul.

I've been listening to Sepultura since Refuse Resist

[winter shoal]

I think Sepultura's drummer plays for Slipknot now? Eloy Casagrande

[thick fossil]

Igor was their first one.

Max's brother

[winter shoal]

Ngl Eloy is the only one I know

Bro is jacked out of his mind

[thick fossil]

I stopped listening when they became Soulfly

[charred flint]

yeah

[plush zephyr]

I’m not a knot fan, though I respect their work ethic but their latest single scissors is pretty dope

[charred flint]

eloy on slipknot

i have a thing about slipknot

that

[plush zephyr]

Also early on Slipknot shows were fucking insane

[thick fossil]

If you like that grimy kinda metal though, Corrosion of Conformity and Fear Factory might be right up you alley.

[charred flint]

EVERY YEAR
they come and play here

them fuckers

just do the show on my birthday

[plush zephyr]

Glad to see them catch themselves on fire in person

[charred flint]

so all my metalhead friends just skip it

[thick fossil]

Only band I wish I had of seen live was Pantera.

[winter shoal]

Go with them

[charred flint]

im just glad ive seen radiohead

sad about not seeing death grips

[thick fossil]

I heard their live shows were so fucking amazing.

[charred flint]

giot to watch a jpegmafia show too that was insane

dude like a fucking

wwe villain

[winter shoal]

Death Grips came to my city a while back and apparently the crowd like almost burned the venue down

[chilly plume]

mythic forgeweaver; is it viable to dstance enraged regen taunt one of the intermission adds for a melee and not die

[plush zephyr]

I got to see In Flames live, one of my favs, and it was boring as fuck and made me really sad

[thick fossil]

In Flames.... whoa... that takes me back.

[plush zephyr]

Hell yeah

[thick fossil]

Jester's Dance was my jam.

[winter shoal]

For a little bit maybe but not the whole phase

[winter shoal]

This is how I feel about modern day Avril Lavigne smh

[plush zephyr]

Lorna Shore is my go to at the moment

[winter shoal]

Lorna is just reaction video bait atp

[lusty jungle]

at the gates f

[chilly plume]

the plan is just to get whacked once to reset tank stacks

[charred flint]

seems like it

[plush zephyr]

Netherwalkers new single Battle of Tredom is the craziest shit I’ve heard in awhile

[charred flint]

it has to be the best show you can be in

ever since the

[thick fossil]

No no no... here we go.

Edge of Sanity

[charred flint]

SXSW show where they did on zoom or w/e

ive been hoping the come to brazil

[thick fossil]

Who remembers Edge of Sanity?

[charred flint]

but they didnt plz come to brazil

[winter shoal]

With all defensives you can probably take a hit ya, you might be hurting by the end of the intermission with no defensives left tho

[charred flint]

anotha one i wanna go is Danny Brown

[plush zephyr]

One of my favs

[winter shoal]

I just realized I was thinking of At the Gates when they said In Flames

Same band basically innit

[plush zephyr]

Old man’s child

[winter shoal]

oldhead type shi

[lusty jungle]

both swedish but not same band ;D

[plush zephyr]

Sure 😂

[winter shoal]

Me when I'm a mid 90s swedish melodic death metal band

It's not the same tho

[chilly plume]

idk if i cooked this right but I slapped this together for it

[plush zephyr]

Children of Bodom

Rip Alexi

[lusty jungle]

my band was intro for entombed and at the gates when we were teenagers, our biggest influence was at the gates and gojira

[winter shoal]

If you're throwing on a shield I mean idk

Just fully inting your damage

[plush zephyr]

Emperor was my introduction to like metal in general lol

[chilly plume]

for like 2 globals

[winter shoal]

Your tanks need to sort their shit out if you're that down bad

[thick fossil]

Nightingale, Cemetery, Theatre of Tragedy, man... there was some good stuff back in the 90s.

[winter shoal]

Theatre of Tragedy fucks

[thick fossil]

I still have my CDs.

[winter shoal]

I'm not 1000 years old though

I'm p sure they disbanded before I was born

[thick fossil]

C.c that hurts.

https://tenor.com/view/betty-white-dab-dabbing-i-am-old-but-still-lit-gif-16081244

That's what you kids say now isn't it?

[winter shoal]

No I don't think lit is cool anymore

I also don't talk to children though so idk

[thick fossil]

Only time I do is when they knock on my door trying to sell me cookies.

[winter shoal]

Trying?

They better be succeeding

Those cookies go hard

[thick fossil]

I had such a crush on Dan Swano. (Singer of Nightingale, Edge of Sanity, like 2 or 3 other bands). Later found out he use to be an opera singer before doing death metal and such.

We don't get the good kind of cookies like you Americans. We only get the vanilla and chocolate cream cookies.

[winter shoal]

Another W for americans in the junk food department

I bet you don't have good mexican food options near you either

[thick fossil]

Well, this was a nice walk down memory lane. Time for grandma to take her meds and go to sleep. lol

[plush zephyr]

As I Lay Dying came on Spotify the other day

Made me super sad

[slim coral]

Junk food slaps

[winter shoal]

[plush zephyr]

I can’t listen to music and separate the artists if their a piece of shit person

[winter shoal]

Baze how often do you eat mexican food

[winter shoal]

Real

[sullen dove]

Some

I like a good Kit Kat or Reese’s cup but if u binge more than like 3 of those not sure you’re human

whereas you can easily down a big bag of chips

[winter shoal]

twix goated don't @ me

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/stitch-licks-slime-gif-7826310196799265789

[sullen dove]

twix prolly the best of that shape of candy

Compared to like snickers and other shit

The crunchy is good

[winter shoal]

Snickers is the definition of mid

[sullen dove]

real

[winter shoal]

Swordish how often do you eat mexican food

[craggy sleet]

a

[plush zephyr]

fast break is criminally slept on

[slim coral]

Like once a week

I love some horchata

[winter shoal]

horchata owns

[languid willow]

top forgeweaver parse NA don't see anyone else here down with me

[analog estuary]

yo just happened to me in a gambit, not really sure where to ask but since I was playing fury i thought id just ask here. did they add fervents back to gambit??? 99.9% sure i didnt rip in this clip but i get double melee'd when at the start of the clip the close officer is 100% on the tank, looks at me for 0.1s and im dead lol

[charred flint]

damn u hot shit huh

[languid willow]

ppl talk about me

[charred flint]

they used to

[languid willow]

LOL

[charred flint]

but im washed now

hahaha what happened man u died in the beggining and they think u aint worth the bress?

[languid willow]

he may not have bubble taunt talented and you died for it

[analog estuary]

im tracking bubble

left side

[modest condor]

well melees dont fervent so that's not it

[languid willow]

oh right

[modest condor]

probably just bad tank aggro

[analog estuary]

ya its just so odd bc its so late in the pack and my frames tell me nothing

[modest condor]

true

[ebon venture]

to update weak auras should i delete the old one and import the new one or can i just reimport it

[bright ledge]

thinking of re rolling something meta

[tepid cedar]

damn jsut missed a fkn 17 prio by less than a minute fuck that key

[cunning condor]

do we like versa with war? i was lucky with these rings

[bright ledge]

see the top warrior in murlok.io, they have like 9-10k vers

[languid willow]

I have 12k vers

[cunning condor]

same

12k

[languid willow]

I'm 22k mast 19k haste 12k vers

[bright ledge]

vers is always good i have only 6k i dont have gear

[languid willow]

b/c robot told me too

[plush zephyr]

fury is meta

[tepid cedar]

according to highest sim,, u want like 17,5-18%

cant remember number exactly

[bright ledge]

thell ppl that T_T

[bright ledge]

i have 7% lmao

[languid willow]

ignore the haste

alchemical

is givine me 3.5k

[cunning condor]

i need help with this sim.. Where do i select in sim that it tells me how much stat i should go for?

[bright ledge]

maybe i got too much mastery LOL

[languid willow]

what is raidbots telling you?

[tepid cedar]

what he just said

lower thast mast like 10-12% and get some vers

get about 3% more haste too

[bright ledge]

me?

im gonna recraft my neck to get 4800 more vers isntead of mastery

[quiet breach]

if you want more of a secondary change your cloak fiber first

[bright ledge]

better noiw

[olive wraith]

You don’t sim for what stats you need. You sim pieces of gear against each other

[bright ledge]

did change the cloak fiber for the 2-3% mastery

[feral ivy]

just killed mythic fract i thought i was pumping.. nope crappy parse %

[cunning condor]

i really dont understand sometimes those pares you can be top 3 dps and still parse bad

[feral ivy]

i was second dps in the fight but parse is 30 something

[olive wraith]

It’s not comparing you to your group. It’s comparing you to your spec

[cyan star]

Is Champion Spear a Root or Tether?

for Araz

[winter shoal]

tether

[cunning condor]

that logs are bs i dont understand them 😄

[winter shoal]

What do you not understand about them

They are convoluted for sure

[feral ivy]

i fully understand its just i hate the look of it .. top of that pull but bottom of the warriors lol

[winter shoal]

I mean it's no different than on thane when you get a 90+ and lose to an spriest with a 30

or on forge rather

[olive wraith]

@cunning condor

[winter shoal]

I need sleep man

[feral ivy]

someone in my raid said if we kill fract we CAN get DH boss boots in vault even though we didnt kill them

[cunning condor]

then i need to work on myself i guess

[olive wraith]

That’s the goal

Self improvement

[edgy widget]

if you kill fract you can

killing a raid boss adds all the previous bosses loot to the vault table

[chilly plume]

wow fract is comically easy what the hell

[languid willow]

follow wa and win

[feral ivy]

I swore it was only the bosses you killed

Did they change it this season

[edgy widget]

they changed it a couple seasons ago

[sullen dove]

They changed it since vault of the incarnates

Maybe during then

but def after

[edgy widget]

I don't recall exactly when

[sullen dove]

cuz ppl would like buy boosts to last 1 or 2 bosses and only get that loot out of vault

Like diurna trinket/ring and rasz bow etc

[feral ivy]

Damn ppl can just buy mythic last boss and then don’t have to worry about loot sometimes

[sullen dove]

yea I mean strategically you wouldn’t buy anything past soul hunters

There’s like zero relevant loot on next 3 bosses

Aside from dimense trinket

and maybe the ring