fury

[remote bobcat]

auto translates discord messages for you

[heavy folio]

renown should be capped at 6 this week no?

[bitter palm]

accept him bro 🥀

[upper mica]

ok 10 stack of opportunity on a mob is SD proc or RB a higher prio

[bitter palm]

depends if u need bs back

[upper mica]

hmmm.. if 10 stacks and i use SD proc its 100% chance of slayers strike but if i use RB its 20% chance of reap the storm

[bitter palm]

aoe or st

in aoe u have 5*20

[vague copper]

What about this condition (WA) should't this play a sound when WW stacks runs out?

[bitter palm]

in st sd is highest prio with conditions

[upper mica]

with conditions?

[bitter palm]

2x sd or sd falling off or 2+ marked for execution or ashen juggernaut falling off

theres a weakaura that glows and makes a sound when one of these conditions are met

should be somewhere in the faq or wowhead

[upper mica]

the fury slayer one i think

[bitter palm]

if u prefer to just send sd u can its like 1% loss

[bitter palm]

ye

fury slayer execute conditions

[upper mica]

so only hit execute when that is highlighted? otherwise RB is prio?

[bitter palm]

check wowhead its explained there

[hollow leaf]

12 halls

got assassinated on last pull

[remote bobcat]

last pull ? the miniboss ?

[hollow leaf]

yeah

[clever belfry]

stoneface thaner duo

[gleaming siren]

anda anda duo

[hollow leaf]

both good friends 🥰

[oblique trail]

Anda squared

[clever belfry]

think stone deleted me from bnet unless he is on appear offline again grrr

[gleaming siren]

unfriended

anda will crash out

[clever belfry]

(i have not played wow in a whole patch and not done keys in a whole xpac)

(fair)

[clever belfry]

i will explode if i have to wait much longer to get pictures taken of my eyes

stupid uniklinik grr

[oblique trail]

👁️

[gleaming siren]

grr

[clever belfry]

wish my eye looked like that

add some red veins and maybe u get this

[eternal sundial]

How dare he defy the bfas3 goat

Gr

[clever belfry]

but I have a cooler eye color

[clever belfry]

Not even my peak

[gleaming siren]

anda peaked when he backed up the bomba on the Tindral kill

[clever belfry]

that play was very good

But i think SL s2 is my unfortunate peak

What a shit time for that

[gleaming siren]

That is SUCH a sad season to peak

Were you in Pieces then

[clever belfry]

yes, but i didnt even kill sylvanas lol

got mdi globals tho that season

as magussy....

gg...

hate m*ges

[gleaming siren]

Dranda

read as Dran da

Man Pieces roster was stacked back then

[oblique trail]

Team name

[iron portal]

I wonder when will be the next time some other guild will taks world first

Been Echo(method) and Liquid for some time now

[clever belfry]

dranda dn

[digital arrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1413296803834499114/reaptech.gif

[lapis shadow]

14 dawn

[steel shard]

what is the point of linking m+ overall

i can link this and say "we are so back" when the warlock is like 7ilvls behind with shit trinkets

and the rogue is 695

[radiant plank]

hell yeah

[eternal sundial]

Overall times keys obviously

Btw

Yet to see a screenshot like this include havoc

[lapis shadow]

we are so back

[steel shard]

idk what blackflame is

but it´s 40% of his damage

Also i feel like fury war is good if the pack does not die in 2 seconds

the guy bursts 30m

while i do idk 12

[pine whale]

In this patch I see a lot of people with the weapon embellishment Instead of the duskthread, has something changed, or they do it for raid reasons?

[steel shard]

and then going up laters on with more stacks

[eternal sundial]

Hero talent of the dot they put up

[steel shard]

seems bonkers

[eternal sundial]

I mean dots are only rlly capped by the amount of times u press tab

And their duration

[steel shard]

But again I don't see the point of posting screenshots of like this

it does not reflect the state of the brown class

[eternal sundial]

Aff has that dot be up perma with a talent which is kinda cool

[clever belfry]

BRO I PIPED IN THIS PUG KEY WITH RANDOM ROUTE

[heavy dock]

better for raid and much better for immediate gain if you dont manage to get myth wep from vault/raid.. which some ppl def wont, like me lol

[radiant plank]

Hoooly

[heavy dock]

s1 3 months of vault i havent seen 1 wep

[lilac kettle]

[pine whale]

But you can still craft weapon without embellishment

[heavy dock]

why would you tho

at the moment we have 3 sparks

so logical sense if u went wep is to go nerubian + on armor piece

then maybe at 4 sparksu swap to threads

when u can craft a 2nd armor piece

[fading sky]

hmmm

so u are saying u have 2 weapons allready?

[lilac kettle]

First 2hander being from the 4th boss is

[fading sky]

WHERE First BOSS 2hander

blizzard

only where to place it

[heavy dock]

there is a polearm

agi only

[fading sky]

STR

[heavy dock]

i still dont know why there are agi only polearms in the game

[fading sky]

how can it not be both ?

[heavy dock]

or str only

[fading sky]

WAIT IT ACTUALLY LOOKS GOOD

thats an awesome polearm wth

[heavy dock]

the weps of this tier look good

esp on mythic

[fading sky]

yup

[pine whale]

So at this point is worth recrafting my weapon with embellishment? Or wait?

When we will be able to craft second piece?

[heavy dock]

we will have 4 sparks next reset in total

and considering how cheap wep recraft is, why not

[thick fossil]

I just did a ST sim with Belt and Bracers swapped to Dawn and Dusk threads and double mythic weapons. Crafted Weapon and Bracers combo was better.
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1HqzpwX7F5fEr5PhbZvVoT

[heavy dock]

thats always going to be better in raid fights

[chilly bay]

i made similar using the vuzochris's ww aura so it plays sound when i run out of stack instantly when if the last press is rampage and not at the last hit of rampage, so i get the sound instantly if the last ww is used by rampage and not until after the rampage has done its 4 hits

[heavy dock]

dawn/dusk is better in m+ generally unless your tank chain pulls whole dungeon

[thick fossil]

I'll do a 8T sim and see if threads work better there.

This one will look a little scuffed since I didn't log in to switch over to Slayer M+ build and selected it.
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/97umK1abDeKefXzpRpnVqk

Crafted weapon and bracers still win out.

[heavy dock]

Dude

Lemme put it like this

If you never drop combat, wep will be better

If you drop combat like in m+ sometimes and ascendance falls off

Then it becomes better

Thats the general idea and why ppl who push m+ typically go for threads

[thick fossil]

I can see that, but sims are 5 min intervals. It's what's best for that 5mins, so it's usually pretty safe to go with.

[heavy dock]

Thats not relevant to this context..

If that 5 min interval had two 20 sec pauses then it might be

Crafted 720 Wep will always be better over staying with 710 weapons tho, that im pretty sure

[thick fossil]

And threads can be neutralized on any aoe damage. They both have their pros and cons, but I don't think I'm gonna bother committing sparks and resources to threads till way way later.

[heavy dock]

In either scenario

No, i always go wep too cuz my vault rng is fucking diabolical

[thick fossil]

Ain't that the truth.

[heavy dock]

3 weeks in a row i pretty much had socket angle that was saved by a piece that could be catalysted

Meanwhile my ret friend has sac/pacemaker in the same vault

[thick fossil]

My vaults have always had something worth taking. Tier on patch launch, first week weapon, then cursed idol, this week it was more tier.

[hardy vault]

Hey ! no more Wrecking Throw in the plexus fury build ? Why

[coarse nest]

Send that shit while walking up to him

Free damage

[hardy vault]

i should send it while enraged no ?

[heavy dock]

ideally during avatar too imo lol

you only get 1/shield anyway

and doing 13mil for 1 button is pretty good to worth waiting until cds

noncrit

i havent had it crit yet

[heavy dock]

must be nice lol xD

[signal steeple]

How much versatility is too much?

[heavy dock]

if youre asking its probably too much

[signal steeple]

Ok I have about 21,000, do I start replacing it with mastery? I don't see anything in the FAQ

[heavy dock]

Holy

You probably should lol

But also just sim a droptimizer

[gleaming siren]

Was it a yuanshen key

[chilly bay]

how did you end with 21k vers when guides rank it second lowest stat priority :o

[dark elbow]

Is he doing PvP?

[chilly bay]

ah true that would explain

[clever belfry]

what are u on about

[signal steeple]

Because it's absolutely fantastic for mythic raiding and I almost always get the top spot and never die

But now that I'm more comfortable with some of the mechanics, I want to dial back on it a bit and get to a more optimal stat weight

[gleaming siren]

you aren't piping anything at this point you're washed

except your Yuanshen rotation

[south kayak]

who is the real anda

[gleaming siren]

That's for you to decide

:3

[south kayak]

So not you

Anda doesn't use that emote

[clever belfry]

thats just

wrong

[south kayak]

I've never seen you use it

[chilly fractal]

Next time for sure

[ivory sinew]

hey guys, new back into fury. running mainly m+. Just wanted to know if there was ever a situaton that BS is up and you send it before pairing with recklessness to get overwhelmed rolling asap?

[south kayak]

If it's one rampage behind sure

more than that idk if it's feasible

maybe 2

[remote bobcat]

send bladestorm if recklessness** is more than 15 seconds of ingame cd left

but

[south kayak]

15? damn

[remote bobcat]

you wanna time bladestorm so u have it beginning of every pack

[ivory sinew]

perfect, sometimes i have it up in the same pack and recklessness has like 20-30 seconds left. is that normal in m+?

[remote bobcat]

yes

recklessness CDR is only from anger management
bladestorm CDR is from anger management AND marked for execution stacks

so they naturally desync

[ivory sinew]

ok, so if packs going to die soon, save it. I thought maybe i was executing too much whoch was why they were so far apart sometimes. thanks Kronzo!

[zenith brook]

I abandoned DK I went Warrior am I a fool?

[heavy dock]

Yea

Both are good but dk is just superior rn

And tbh easier to play lol

[red minnow]

might actually use my 80 boost from ordering midnight to a DK and try it out

been playing war only since i started playing the game in SL 😄

[zenith brook]

TRUE but,.....Warrior is much more fun to me

Dk is completely dumb dumb, 4 keys, immune to everything. I fall asleep.

[chilly bay]

then be a happy fool and zug

[signal steeple]

Undead DK is the intended way of playing the game.

[drifting token]

DKs get mad privileges for "not having a raid buff". Let em pump ig

[hot rampart]

so I just tried Powerful Enrage instead of Frenzied Enrage and I like it so much better. That extra second of enrage feels great

[fiery tide]

boys, whats the gameplay difference between getting 95s and 99/100s? been trying to get som higher parses but most of the time im just stuck around 95

[drifting token]

probably uptime on target

or external cds like PI

[heavy dock]

Gear also plays a diff

[eternal compass]

And aoe fight pray that your raid has weak aoe so you can hit the adds more

[fiery tide]

ive given up on soulbinder and araz

everytime adds are just dead by the time my bladestorm ends

[clever belfry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1406564095775473714/schmidirot.gif

@gleaming siren

[chilly fractal]

Just start DDoSing other members of your raid and gaslight them into playing Single Target

[lapis shadow]

Im boutta reeeeeeeeaaaapppp

dont think ive enjoyed m+ in a long while

thank you reap bugfix

[gleaming siren]

https://tenor.com/view/snorbbler-heres-the-dugong-sea-cow-fish-gif-15447522917977577754

[midnight sierra]

Are you guys all running odyns fury or anyone using deft expertise / blood craze ?

Sorry I mean in the slayer m+ build

[drifting token]

i'm runnin the standard m+ build on wowhead, no OF

[midnight sierra]

Thane you mean? I haven’t checked Wowhead in a bit maybe I’m missing something

[drifting token]

Was updated a while ago, Thane's gone

[midnight sierra]

I see I see

Yeah okay the one on wowhead is the one I have right now

Thanks lol

Oh and I guess it comes down to preference but frenzied enrage or powerful enrage ?

maybe haste is better for more RBs?

[drifting token]

Haste is extremely valuable atm for us kinda hard to drop unless you have disgusting amounts of haste baseline already

[blissful canyon]

Just wondering, do you mains like how aoe works on fury? Im curious

[drifting token]

Sure

[winter shoal]

I do not but you can if you want, it's not a significant difference

[winter shoal]

Largely preference but frenzied tends to be better numerically as slayer because slayers strikes is hasted rppm

[drifting token]

Our rotation is already pretty bland as it is, kinda don't wanna bore it up even more with powerful. The frenetic speed is all we got to hold our attention spans

[midnight sierra]

I see, thanks for responding to me !

[midnight sierra]

It’s okay, I would like meat cleaver to be passive but that’s becaus im lazy

[earnest canyon]

lmao at the name

[midnight sierra]

Really it’s just remembering every 4 GCDs or so toss out WW so it really isn’t that bad

[midnight sierra]

it’s true at this point unfortunately… I hear it in my sleep

[marble brook]

guys which weapon enchant is good in raid now after the renown buff?

[tender forge]

heroic scarbrood or sigil ? they are both simming pretty much identical for me

[blissful canyon]

Guess you get used to it because I'm new to warr and i keep counting on my head 4.3.2.1

[midnight sierra]

Still not used to it, I found a weak aura that makes a noise in a very unsettling voice when stacks drop that helps

[smoky vale]

@storm birch hi sorry i trusted that dh

[pale lava]

subjective but current fury iteration is the best it has ever been gameplay wise for me

[lapis shadow]

I run Odyns

[quiet breach]

yes

I hope they make this slayer tier bonus a capstone talent in midnight

that would be sick

have they ever made tier bonuses to talents in the past?

[storm birch]

I’m ngl I was kinda getting tilted at the pulls 🤣 I was really annoyed when the hounds were tanked in the corner of the circle making the breath hard to dodge 🤣🤣

[quiet breach]

I use oathborne (the vers one)

[storm birch]

All g though I coulda just played better woulda been fine

[digital arrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1413296803834499114/reaptech.gif

[drifting token]

Well they've made legendary/articlfact abilities into talents so I don't see why not

[storm birch]

I figured you’d prolly wanna reform cause that group was gonna have a tough time @smoky vale 🤣

[smoky vale]

I was bored

sending resil key so i didnt care that much

surely he was fixable

he was not

[storm birch]

That’s fair.

Lmaoooo

I couldn’t believe he pulled lust boss with mini

My eyes were trying so hard to see the spinny lines

Too much clutter on my screen 🤣

[smoky vale]

my warrior is rising

[ember ridge]

Hello, I have a little question about simulations, I'm not sure I'm doing the right thing and as those aren't log idk if I should put it here or not.
Here is a raidbot sim : https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iVcFoQYCSN1EmV9pWc31Jc

My question is, why do I sim less with astral antenna while when I see any warrior with kinda same gear/dps they have better results with around 10/15% more crits on most of spells having less trouble to damage, am I doing the simulation properly/am I wrong about the antenna being better ? Also dimensius trinket is underwhelming on short fights so I think it's a bit inflated on most fights/sims but again I'm not sure

[smoky vale]

theres a thing to change antenna uptime

.

[ember ridge]

And do we have to change it ?

[smoky vale]

dunno

dont have one

[modest condor]

you're comparing with a trinket 13 ilvls higher

[ember ridge]

It's also comparing with dimensius

[smoky vale]

that trinket is big dam

[quiet breach]

what % chance would you guys put that we get a dinar on October 9th (or whatever the date of next major patch)?

[sinful spoke]

upgrade ur antenna to max ilvl lol

why is it at 710 if its mytgh

[quiet breach]

maybe he ran out of gilded

my myth belt is at 717

cuz no more gilded

xd

[sinful spoke]

the sim u can add

[ember ridge]

OH maybe I should try on multiple targets also cause it's where it's better.
And no I don't have it I'm force simulating it

To see if I need it

[sinful spoke]

bro

its all the ilvl

[ember ridge]

So I picked 710 mb

[sinful spoke]

fix ur sim

[ember ridge]

(I did it on purpose because of a use case I wanted hero 710 so it was same same to me)

But I got you.

[sinful spoke]

..

[signal zinc]

when do i ever use bloodthirst in ST/AOE?

[languid willow]

no

[digital arrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1413296803834499114/reaptech.gif

[languid willow]

tbf I do find myself BT'ing some packs in M+ if tanks chain pull and i dont have a BS up to apply overwhelm

thats it

so in pugs sometimes

otherwise you shouldn't have to

[winter shoal]

As filler if you can't RB/exe yes, or in aoe if you didn't bring a BS into the pack and have low overwhelmed stacks as a result

[languid willow]

M+ tanks love to just pull random shit in when adds are 50% hp

so i find myself using it for that reason

and yea if i have no RB procs or SD procs

[drifting token]

to be fair fury is probably one of the best acclimated specs to chain pulling, will hardly find a complaint for it

[keen hamlet]

Rage is fun that way.

[signal zinc]

does execute always have higher prio than RB?

[drifting token]

Not always no

[smoky vale]

no

[keen hamlet]

Stealth specs want to enter stealth for energy regeneration and bonuses, ramping specs want big pulls so they can ramp up on the large pack and not a bunch of small pulls that never let them ramp

[smoky vale]

i mean

[signal zinc]

in what cases not

[smoky vale]

assassination doesnt care if you chain if you chain well and same for feral

[drifting token]

Almost all cases lol

[smoky vale]

other rogue specs dont care about stealth

[languid willow]

@signal zinc aoe m+ or st ?

[signal zinc]

st mostly but also aoe

[keen hamlet]

If it isnt about to over cap on sudden death RB always has priority.

[drifting token]

99.9% of questions answers can be found on wowhead guide

[signal zinc]

what exactly is the overwhelm we r talking abt? overwhelming blades?

[drifting token]

ovrwhelmed is applied in 3 ways, via bladestorm, reap the storm proc, and executing a MFE marked target

[hybrid vector]

any1 have a good build for rbgs?

[coarse nest]

Check out the pvp channel you’ll have better luck probably

[rocky sequoia]

i have a friend who gets self conscious about practicing on a target dummy because she thinks people are watching her.. i told her that literally nobody does that. she followed with a screenshot of someone standing nearby targeting her as she was doing her mage combo

do you guys know of any good boss dummies that are private LMAO cant believe i have to ask

[mystic kayak]

Timeways maybe

Nobody hits the dummies there besides me

I'd sooner recommend therapy though

[smoky vale]

there are ones ontop of towers in dornogal

and depending on horde or alliance

[rocky sequoia]

ohh good idea i hadnt thought about that

[smoky vale]

silvermoon city and ironforge

[rocky sequoia]

i told her to check the mage class hall because its unlikely people are loitering in there

[drifting token]

There are also some toys you can just throw out wherever you want and serve as dummies

[smoky vale]

no one goes to the those 2

[mystic kayak]

is she less self conscious doing bad dps because she doesn't know her mage combo

[rocky sequoia]

i imagine its like when people get embarrassed if theyre seen excersizing

[smoky vale]

probably

[rocky sequoia]

the mage class hall had nobody in there but the boss dummy is next to a level 45 dummy

[smoky vale]

either go to the mage wahtever thing you are sayign

or dummies in silvermoon or iron forge

[lavish pond]

guys what is an "OK" difference between the sim and the actual dps you do in a m+?

[drifting token]

That will vary greatly since a sim doesn't take into any account of each individual dungeon's traits or types of pulls n shit.

[gilded pawn]

sims dont take account into whether your tank is yoda or a 5 year old

[chilly bay]

some tanks are really weird to play around. like they move exact opposite direction than you when there is shit on ground etc

[thin cliff]

I feel like this can't be overstated night and day difference with our two usual tanks. Same group otherwise, same key, same route, the dps (and stress level) difference is huge

[quiet breach]

go to a random useless city using the org/stormwind portal room

extra benefit you won't have to deal with dornogol lag

[gilded pawn]

arent some of those dummies like 40 levels under

[smoky vale]

probably like 10k less than your sim is a good margin

which alone is like 0.25% off

which is really execessive

[gilded pawn]

sim itself swings by 10% between the 25% and 75%tile

i havent looked at it in a minute though

so you could just pretend you played perfectly and got unlucky

650k dps between 5 and 95%tile

ya

[smoky vale]

okay if im at most 20k behind the sim

adn avging 10k behind

or beating it

where ami

[coarse nest]

iRobot!

[smoky vale]

@gilded pawn help

[gilded pawn]

ur just lucky as fuck

and ur actually shit

[hallow sleet]

Hi! I'm super new to mountain thane fury in m+. Can you point me towards some good rotation guidelines? I've watched a couple of guides on YouTube and read through WoWhead and icy veins but I think that confused me even more 😄

[tepid cedar]

u arte 10-20k behind

.<

[gilded pawn]

i dont like comparing to sims for that exact reason

[smoky vale]

i mean

being 0.25% behind the sim is a good place to be

[gilded pawn]

ya

i would agree

[tepid cedar]

i dont think robot accounts for dummy hp going and satying in execute does it

[smoky vale]

there is

[gilded pawn]

theres a dummy sim

[smoky vale]

if you change to dummy sim

[tepid cedar]

does it accoutn for non stop execute?

[gilded pawn]

you link me a dummy sim and ill tell you

[smoky vale]

it should for every class

yeah

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eveapqh8HeDXcXzBf1URpF

[winter shoal]

Dummy sims are actually permanently 100% hp

There's an override for it, let me see if I can find it rq

[gilded pawn]

hmm it doesnt say

and ya

[coarse nest]

[gilded pawn]

reapers mark looks like its not being cast

a lot

7 cast in 5 minutes doesnt sound like execute to me

[winter shoal]

  # Simulate a fight with a permanent execute range
  enemy_fixed_health_percentage=20

[smoky vale]

why would i ever need to practice fury

?

like be fr

[gilded pawn]

oh thats a different reapers

[winter shoal]

reapers mark is fdk deathbringer hero talent

soul reaper is their execute

don't think they take that talent tho

[smoky vale]

nope

sucks very much

🙂

[coarse nest]

You’re not practicing skill! You’re training finger muscle!

[eternal sundial]

Biology questionmark

[tepid cedar]

awthats what i thought., ty for code. as well

[smoky vale]

giofiveseven is on the rise

[coarse nest]

It’s the finger curled to look like a bicep you know this!

[coarse nest]

[tepid cedar]

@winter shoal

[winter shoal]

Do you have that as an expert mode header?

[tepid cedar]

nope

i do now

lol

[earnest canyon]

it's my birthday will you change your name to big bowels?

[tepid cedar]

now it worked

[winter shoal]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/efShNpRXjXvrkb2HvpSf5R
Had to add it in post combination actors

[tepid cedar]

did u have raid buffs selected

that sim lol thats 600k more than me lolz

[winter shoal]

Nope target dummy sim disables raid buffs, my normal sim is 5.4

Actually this shit might still be donked

[tepid cedar]

lol i sim at 5.4 as well

but its 4.191 deselcting everythjign but bshout

[smoky vale]

bowwl

[tepid cedar]

and 4.6 with only food etc

well im about to find out

and do a 5 min dumy test with only bshout and comsums

[winter shoal]

Yeah idk I ran a regular target dummy sim and another with the enemy health set to 100% (which should be identical) and they're like 600k apart

somethings bricked

[tepid cedar]

ok this is what perm execute says with onyl consums and bshgout

[smoky vale]

idk

i didnt majorly gain damage by being in execute a lot since rm does more

[winter shoal]

Yeah fury gains like <1% from 20-0

[smoky vale]

frost gains some but idk if its a lot

since most of your damage is just oblit

you know what i forgot to account for

the fact that rm can crit and exterminate can crit

[winter shoal]

gio is DB the play now for fdk

Been seeing people play it almost exclusively in keys and raid

I thought it was only for cleave fights like forgeweaver

[smoky vale]

it sims higher in st

has less bugs

[winter shoal]

But they're playing it on st too

[smoky vale]

i dont think there is a major reason to play riders

[winter shoal]

horsey go fast

[smoky vale]

play ww

[charred flint]

Damn what was the timer on

[winter shoal]

ww is like 45s cd or something

[charred flint]

HoA before nerfs

[smoky vale]

60

[charred flint]

didnt time a 14 with everyone pullin 7M+ overall

with no wipes

only 3 deaths

[smoky vale]

you just da ww

zoom

[winter shoal]

also attacking cancels ww innit

cringe

[smoky vale]

yeah

also this might be completely made up

but riders was bugged on dimen and fract

dunno if that bug is still there

@winter shoal

[winter shoal]

Are you implying I'm the only good player in a guild of terrible dps?

Or that you are

[south kayak]

susge

[winter shoal]

Oh nvm I clicked the link

That makes sense tho

[remote bobcat]

hi bowwl

hyd

[digital mauve]

I have the exec weak aura, I feel like a lot of the time I get exec wa procs on a pack and since it's low key (7-8) the packs die to quickly so I don't have the time to use a lot of RB to get a lot of REAP. So I'm here having back to back EXEC WA proc but not having the time to generate Reap. I know that it reduces the cooldown of BS but still. Is it okey?

[young swan]

do higher keys

[viral shore]

don't use the wa then. it's 0.5% dps loss in the worst of cases. in your case you might see big gain if you press execute less

[digital mauve]

yeah? cuz it kinda bothers me

[viral shore]

I'm not that good with weak auras. but I made my own with the wowhead conditions for execute and that also dings less than the one linked here. Maybe it's broken.
For me it basically is useless anyway since I don't play good enough to manage the gcds well enough for it to matter. 😄

[digital mauve]

the wa is not the problem, it just showcase the best time to press Execute

[hollow leaf]

today is the 7 year anniversary of mythic uldir

hip hip hurray

[digital mauve]

the problem is that It procs a lot, good, but in the other hand I have less time to cast RB in order to get Reap procs so in this keys since the packs dies quickly, it's a big loss of dps I feel like

[young swan]

im 100% sure the answer to your problem is to just do higher keys

[trim hound]

You're kinda screwed either way if the mobs die too fast

Higher keys is legit the answer

[digital mauve]

well I have a low IO so I'm not taken in pugs in big keys

[young swan]

use ur own key

easiest way to boost ur IO

[viral shore]

If the mobs die too fast the perfect rotation doesn't matter anyway if we are honest here. Just do face -> keyboard

[white nest]

Still worth to reset bladestorn for the next pack so you can get the debuff stacked fast.

[digital mauve]

Yeah I know

[young swan]

even in 10s you'll find things die too fast to do shit properly

12 is when things kinda start living long enough for you to actually do your rotation after bladestorm

[coarse nest]

Face keyboard is the best method!

[smoky vale]

in 17s things die too fast

[trim hound]

Murlocs at start of gambit just exploding by the time bladestorm is over on 10s-12s

[digital mauve]

Okok I'll take your replys into account, thanks

[static rock]

Quick question, in a pure ST fight, is it always correct to keep using RB and rampage and not execute if I only have 2 stacks of marked for execution, and only use execute if you are both under 80 rage and have no RB charges left or have 3 stacks of marked for execution?

[gleaming siren]

So push to 57s?

[coarse nest]

57s go hard

[young swan]

use execute at 2 stacks

theres no reason to delay it

[cunning condor]

guys do you use still titan belt

or the mythic one

[young swan]

nope

[young swan]

replaced it with mythic soulbinder belt

[static rock]

Is it to prevent the potential rare double proc that would cause a marked for execution to be wasted then? Like if a Rampage caused two more stacks of marked for execution

[viral shore]

710 is too low to be better fro me. upgrade and sim. for me 714 is a bit over sidegrade territory

[cunning condor]

gives a lot of haste tbh

[young swan]

kind of I guess? its jsut a high damage global

2 stacks of MFE + guaranteed slayer strike

[static rock]

Btw, everyone with the delve belt is still using the criticial chain, right?

[young swan]

if you dont have to wait, why would you

[cunning condor]

i use haste tbh

[static rock]

I dont know, my guild is trying to clear Soulbinder still and I want my BS to line up on every add phase

[cunning condor]

should i use crit ?

[viral shore]

I am and wowhead still says its the one to chose. If you have some free time I think you could sim all the effects 😄

[cunning condor]

is it better then haste

or

[fading sky]

No

Crit is better

Over budget

[cunning condor]

i have only 26% haste

and 56% mastery

[fading sky]

Dont matter

[coarse nest]

The adds die so fast in the double cage sets that idk if that’s even worth doing

[cunning condor]

15 versa and 23% crit

[coarse nest]

Definitely want it for the big aoe in the middle though

[fading sky]

U can just hold bladestorm

Between every psck

[cunning condor]

my trinkets that i run rn

[static rock]

Let's just say that if I get it up in time, I can get through the whole BS and then one GCD afterwards before either one dies...

[trim hound]

I failed to hold bladestorm on 2nd set of adds. Had like 96 boss dmg 65 total dmg parse fml

[coarse nest]

We have a shit ton of aoe and everyone holding for it so my opportunity to log that fight is ggd already lol

Unless I just so happen to proc back to back on a lucky pull

That could always happen

[static rock]

I feel a little bit of RNG is needed to effectively keep both damage up and have BS up for every add pack on Soulbinder. One time I had everything go perfectly and after second adds I was at 8.5 million, but on some pulls I'd only be at like 7-7.5

[smoky vale]

on soulbinder i think you bs before the last cage guys you break out so you can have one for avatar

[feral egret]

I mean, isn't the goal to get back to spinny spin asap? So you should do what you can to line it up with reck avatar

Where from what I've limitly learned, more execute equals faster spins

[young swan]

correct

using execute more frequently is what you want to do to get BS back

not less frequently

[cunning condor]

hmm i still wonder why critical chain

over spark

[bitter palm]

its giga over budget

[young swan]

but in my experience, you would have to actively try in order to not have BS up for every add set

[viral shore]

sim both and see for yourself

[trim hound]

Use whatever sims most

[naive fog]

When playing slayer in m+ am I just slamming RB after whirlwind rampage?

[static rock]

Btw, is warcraftlogs displaying thing correctly when on souldbinder it says people are using the lightning rod choice on the delve belt?

[naive fog]

Feel like I’m doing something wrong

[gusty cloak]

gettin wooped on by BM's in 15's

[digital mauve]

ok I think I had the wrong SD eweak aura

I just took the one from wowHead and it's different

[hoary agate]

armory issue always shows this - check their buffs etc to see what they used

[digital mauve]

kashign sound + glow but it shows if it's 1SD, 2SD or 3MARK OF EXEC

[hoary agate]

armory/tooltip issue etc

[rain sigil]

you're also consuming MFE to reduce bladestorm cd

[static rock]

essentially that and keeping enrage up and using exceute when you get your main target with 2 stacks of MFE

[viral shore]

check if the kaching is acutally happening when it should. it didn't for me, with both!

[cunning condor]

i play raid tbh

[naive fog]

Ah so I was fucking up! Thank you guys I appreciate it

[rain sigil]

yeah i just tweaked my ui to make MFE easy to track manually and ignore kaching in multitarget

[viral shore]

do you know how to sim your character?

[cunning condor]

yes i do

stop pls

[digital mauve]

well 3 marks = kashing sound

Regular exec under 20% no sound

[viral shore]

then it works for you 🙂

[digital mauve]

2 SD proc kashing sound too

[young swan]

im pretty sure its supposed to alert at 2 stacks

[digital mauve]

but Idk what to do, on AOE I use exec whatever the icon shows me?

I don't bother with the nature of the proc?

or should I always send only on 2SD or 3MARK for AOE?

[young swan]

i usually let target count decide that for me

[drifting token]

this is all you need. Is it really that hard to look at a debuff? This aint feral

[young swan]

if its <8 i follow weakaura

if its >8 i ignore it until 3 marks

if I need bladestorm back at the end of a pull i slam execute whenever theres a mark on a target

execute mouseover actually has value this patch

[digital mauve]

but what do you mean I follow weakaura? The weakaura can show 2 different icon

SD or MFE

[young swan]

that doesnt really have any bearing on the condition

if the weakaura tells me to press the button i press the button

when theres less than 8 targets

[naive fog]

Yeah what’s this weak aura sounds pretty nice

[young swan]

#1237307732705415228 message

[smoky vale]

#1237307732705415228 message

xan

[young swan]

tbf i dont actually use the kaching weakaura, i just monitor the buffs/debuffs, but the end result is the same

[bitter palm]

#1237307732705415228 message

gio

[smoky vale]

mthat was a cool wa you shared

at 2:38 am

[young swan]

no delay WW buff tracker

yeah

it is pretty cool

fuckin knob

[smoky vale]

(i didnt import it)

[viral shore]

I thought we should send at 2 marks 😳

[young swan]

generally thats true

[smoky vale]

hes just pressing off vibes

[young swan]

Ive just found in practical applications its better to ignore it until 3 in mass aoe

[smoky vale]

@hallow sphinx is the king of vibes

[viral shore]

mhm yeah I probably send at 3 as well most of the time in game situatiions 😄

[cunning condor]

is this trinket good for us ?

[young swan]

nope

[cunning condor]

so ara kara and antena currently better

[young swan]

almost certainly

[white nest]

Some top Fury's are also running eradicating arcanicore too. Reckon our AOE right now is so stupid it's worth taking it for single target.

[drifting token]

Its ranked 23rd on the list of trinkets performance on bloodmallet

[viral shore]

arcanocore is way better in general though because it has strength

[young swan]

they probably just dont have antenna and/or dont like idol

[white nest]

Nah they run it with antenna

[young swan]

i know noxiv just doesnt like idol

arcanocore is just like

objectively dogshit

in m+

[drifting token]

whew that edit lol

[white nest]

If they were true he'd run sacbrood.

Or any of the other 5 trinkets simming higher in anything above 1 target

[young swan]

i mean i like noxiv

he isnt renowned for being an innovator or theorycrafter

also

mythic arcanocore is very easily available at mythic ilvl

sacbrood is not

[restive peak]

Ye I can see how some just hate idol

Idol/antenna is def amazing though, if you're willing to use idol

[viral shore]

why would anyone not like idol?

just because of the 1s cast?

[restive peak]

Ye

[olive wraith]

Were you here in df

[viral shore]

no I didn't play disneycraft 😄

[chilly fractal]

Yet a lot of players would smack themselves in the face every global if it meant a minimal DPS gain

[radiant perch]

Luckly you can do that offgcd

[olive wraith]

Dragon flight had a trink with a cast time but it gave a FAT mastery buff

[errant leaf]

another day another stomp

[olive wraith]

People hated that too

[plush zephyr]

They 100% would

There’s a study of people being left in a room with nothing but a button that shocked them, vast majority of people pressed the button just so they wouldn’t be bored.

So if humans will shock themselves just to not be bored, they 100% would slap themselves for a dps gain

[young swan]

lowtier boredom enjoyers

[plush zephyr]

I’ve yet to beat an assa, gj!

[young swan]

theres so many other things you could fiddle with

[plush zephyr]

Actually that was from a Harvard professor video

Talking about it’s good to be bored

https://youtu.be/orQKfIXMiA8?si=Qgo3Om5TZggQHG9R

[restive peak]

Boredom is why kids have such wild imaginations, we dull it as we age in our society

I assume he talks about that lol

[gilded pawn]

boot up tiktok now

reject boredom

[plush zephyr]

It’s only 5 mins

[restive peak]

World gettin dumber by the day bro

[pseudo coyote]

heyo question, in aoe do i want to keep the enrage up and only do rampage when its about to end and spam raging blow otherwise? or do rampage to not overcap on rage

[sullen dove]

ong id just start strokin it

[young swan]

oh wow

[sullen dove]

if its like a mass aoe pull with like 8+ mobs it probably is better to overcap some rage a bit to fit more rb's in before enrage falls but you also back of your mind want to think about how much cdr you need to get to make sure to have bs before next pack

[olive wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/vorzek-vorzneck-oglg-og-lol-gang-gif-24901093

[sullen dove]

i might do the like overcap rage for rbs for like 10-20 seconds under an avatar maybe for maximum zug but then after prolly prio ramp a lil more all while hitting 3stack exe's

[pseudo coyote]

alrighty thanks bro

[sullen dove]

but if its like a giga long pack

maybe dont need to worry about cdr at all

[plush zephyr]

i ain’t no scientist but that shit can’t be healthy over time for testosterone and hormone levels

[sullen dove]

prolly

[fathom jay]

Is Arms better than Fury on Soulhunters?

[winter shoal]

Unlikely

If you're very good at arms and not very good at fury then maybe

[olive wraith]

Arms slayer is just worse fury slayer

[smoky vale]

ong you stroking it

[olive wraith]

And I don’t think demolish is good enough to beat fury

Plus with all the movement I bet you miss some demolishes

[fathom jay]

Fair enough, thanks guys!

[olive wraith]

Thane still feels really good on that fight btw

[fathom jay]

Should I be doing Fury Thane? I don't care what I'm playing, I just wanna zug zug top dps

[misty edge]

slayer fury for everything

[fathom jay]

Fair lol

[dire vigil]

After night 1 of prog on soulhunters, thane seemed to perform better, tried a bit of both

[stiff furnace]

Thane still feels kind of dull to me unfortunately.

[olive wraith]

Nah I think thane is slightly better for hunters

Little bit extra range

[chilly fractal]

The passive DR is something I’m liking so far

But I’m also just a few pulls deep

[winter shoal]

Probably higher floor lower ceiling type shi

[chilly fractal]

Thane DR is quite substantial

[steel shard]

4m overall is this seaons 2?

[misty edge]

slayer is better for every fight

[olive wraith]

Ok bud

[winter shoal]

Large

[deep tendon]

with the weapon enchant effectiveness going up on rank 6 with Manaforge Vandals, did it shift the performance of the enchants any?

[young swan]

nope

[deep tendon]

ok thanks, was not sure if suddenly some of damaging ones did really well

[hollow leaf]

very smol

[coarse nest]

Big Gz!

[heavy folio]

I didnt realize that mt slayer is only 100k behind st build

[tall sorrel]

I got 180 glided crest is it worth using them and uppgrade hero track gear to 6/6?

[coral isle]

still managed to deplete a 14 floodgate because nobody seems to understand how to do the second last corridor pull without dying to the fucking inspectors

[shut cedar]

Hey guys look at the bis list on wowhead. I am about to make my crafted piece of gear. Does it really matter if instead of doing crafted bracers I do crafted boots. My boots are still champion track. So figured instead I would make those to get rid of that low ilvl piece

[unborn delta]

Ifyour only source of myth is vault and you never plan to mythic raid, then yes. Otherwise no

[coral isle]

just use hero boots until you can get the soulhunters boots

[plush zephyr]

Should’ve had the stuns for it to rotate them

[shut cedar]

I assume for just the most minmaxing its not ideal but at the end of the day its not that big of a deal

[plush zephyr]

You the DH and brew crazy that part wasn’t easy

[coral isle]

it's not about min max, the reason you dont craft boots is the soul hunters boots that make your cloak proc more is a big dps increase

[shut cedar]

Oh does it?

So its really not a good idea at all then

[coral isle]

yeah ideally you want hero boots until you can get those so a craft is wasted

[shut cedar]

everything else I have is 704+. my boots are 691 😭

So I thought it would be a worthwhile inverstment

[coral isle]

just make a belt they're going to nerf the belt in the patch anyway

or save it for a second crafted weapon

[coral isle]

it shouldn't be that hard without stuns anyway I think in the midst of all the chaos and the purple on dark floor people miss occasionally the frontal graphic

[shut cedar]

kk ty

[coral isle]

if a healer dies it's gg

which is what has happened every time I've run flood 13s and 14s this season

at any rate those inspector mobs are some of the most tilting enemies in any videogame

[earnest canyon]

which ones are they? I know the names of none of them except the bosses and just call them by their abilitiues

• Scaffold Man
• Sawblades Robot
  etcetc

[coral isle]

the guys that teleport behind you and do a frontal

the surprise inspection motherfuckers

[feral egret]

Do you have at least a 720 weapon already?

[earnest canyon]

hahaha, ok yeah, those guys

they are annoying yeah

[plush zephyr]

Eh you and DH have four combined, and then the brew has one, can just be something you mention next flood “hey can we stun these guys I’ll get first/second”

[karmic fiber]

Pacemaker, Arcanocore, Sacbrood or Forgotten Sky for Araz Mythic? All 710

[coral isle]

I know there are ways to handle the mobs though it isn't perfect like that in a pug which is all I play. Eventually someone does die and if it's a healer it's almost certainly a wipe with the rot from the robots

the teleports are such that aoe stuns will often not get all of them anyway

can't stun every cast and it's hard to see the effect against the dark ground in the hallway while also dodging all the electricity circles

eventually someone fucks up

[bronze dew]

question about Execute with 2+ stacks of Marked for Execution or 2 stacks of Sudden Death. Do i let sudden death proc fall off if it's at 1 stack or do i hit it before falls off?

[coral isle]

I'm also like 90% certain those packs have a lower cd on surprise inspection than the other mobs in the dungeon

[chilly fractal]

Just occurred to me… in Legion Remix we won’t have our current season tier sets… oh well… hearing people are easily soloing M+ into the +40s

[thorny shoal]

They removed diminishing returns for secondaries on legion remix so demon hunter should be fun with giga high mastery

[frank dawn]

but that means you have to play a demon hunter

[thorny shoal]

True, but going fast is pretty fun. it's a tough ask though

[chilly fractal]

Just gonna RP walk through each dungeon holding down Whirlwind and singing Buffalo Soldier

[frank dawn]

lol

[keen dove]

have u guys tried blood dk in legion remix

[raven oxide]

its IDOL trink really Good?

[keen dove]

its broken asf

lmao

[raven oxide]

cause feels annoying the 1sec cast

[open prairie]

its one second

no one complained about grieftorch

[edgy widget]

the cast time isn't annoying, it's the inability to precast and need to be in melee to maximize the buff that sucks

[winter shoal]

People definitely complained about grieftorch

[pale zephyr]

It took me like one day to get used to it, it's great

[edgy widget]

on the list of annoying trinkets, it doesn't rank that high; I'd still rather use it than Treacherous Transmitter or a 2m

[open prairie]

Torch was great

[steady timber]

true

[open prairie]

but for some reason the more ranged dps we had in the raid the more it would bug out and randomly reset

anyone know why

[undone quartz]

[open prairie]

our shaman was such a nice guy

[raven oxide]

whats the trick

[open prairie]

he’d died 3x on one farm kill

[undone quartz]

im dead im alive im dead again

[open prairie]

idk why terros had multiple ranged

just floorpov

every week

[analog kite]

can we have ignore pain

[forest halo]

quick question regarding large pulls - do we effectively ignore sudden death procs and just spam rampage/raging blow until theres 5 left in the pack

[chilly fractal]

Ight @thick fossil Metro has had poor warrior representation this season make us proud

[hardy shuttle]

I believe its pretty much that. But if you notice bladestorm won't be back up in time for next pack you probably want to start prioritizing ka-ching again

[raven oxide]

also to sim fury, its always 1 target 5min? or how is it

[floral pond]

Vibes

[winter shoal]

1t 5m and 5t 5m, then use your noggin to compare

[unique vigil]

tried the odyn fury build and it didnt seem much better for aoe, maybe i'm playing it wrong?

[winter shoal]

I mean it's like a 1% difference either way

Not super noticeable

[unique vigil]

yeah, think maybe im just used to the other build

also died first boss cuz tank got 1shot so not a great test sample

and boss fight was like 5mins -.-

best m+ trinkets cursed stone idol + sac btw?

or idol + pacemaker?

[plush zephyr]

Run OF to make funky happy

[edgy widget]

players often feel like they're supposed to notice a meaningful difference between setups, but the reality is that if they're balanced well enough (and for our purposes, we'd only recommend things that are balanced well enough), then you really shouldn't be able to notice a performative difference between the two

[unique vigil]

i think i just kept forgetting to enrage before odyns/bladestorm

also

[edgy widget]

you don't need to; OF does it automatically

[unique vigil]

ohh

well with bladestorm at least

i should prob get in practice of doing it usually tho

[plush zephyr]

Just go to dummies and slap on Spotify

[plush zephyr]

no

[analog kite]

why not

[unique vigil]

[thick fossil]

Was good till he got kicked into the other trash

[north geyser]

has anyone attempted to homecook a reckless abandon talent buid yet instead of anger management

[uneven path]

Maybe as a MT, but tbh for fury it won't be worth it.

[chilly fractal]

Yea he sounded very disappointed in himself

[swift frigate]

should i macro avatar to recklessness?

[winter shoal]

reck first before ava, and it's also probably a good idea to have reck and/or reck+BS on a separate bind

[north geyser]

you know what I actually completely forgot that they changed RA ages ago, I was still in the Dragonflight S3 RA where we used to have the no raging blow build

[chilly fractal]

Annihilator

[olive wraith]

Thane wants am. Unhinged is very strong for thane

Slayer is probably the better choice if you wanna force a RA build

[red berry]

im starting to prefer odyns in aoe purely because the enrage allows you to just roll raging blows

[rough torrent]

question i'm using the execute WA, i was reading wowhead for rotation prio and it looks like the WA doesn't account for 1 of the conditions when we're suppose to execute sub 20% any marked for death stacks

and seems to only consider 2 stacks or when juggernaut/sudden death about to expire

[winter shoal]

The most recent version of the weakaura should be including that

I think it doesn't kaching but does glow in that case

[rough torrent]

oh i got it a while ago let me redownload

[winter shoal]

Idk I don't use it

[open prairie]

i cant stand the kaching

too much noise pollution

[chilly fractal]

You do know

You can change the noise

[rough torrent]

is there a volume dial or is it just based off your sound settings

[young swan]

based on sound settings

[olive wraith]

Change the sound to tb cast

Peak

[maiden trellis]

if I wanted to try the odyns fury build in m+ do I just drop the 2 points from deft experience?

[olive wraith]

Ya that works

Pretty sure wowhead has a non of build listed if you wanna double check

[maiden trellis]

thanks!

[elder granite]

is a hero astral antenna worth over a champion idol im m+

[unborn patio]

Is slayer build > thane now?

A little behind lol

[quiet breach]

yes

[frosty scroll]

how the fk r people doing 8 mil on araz

is there some cheese shit im missing

[hard rampart]

@unborn patio yes

[unborn patio]

Which guide reflects this?

Checked maxroll and it doesn’t

[hard rampart]

if you have whirlwind up, reap the storm now hits all mobs

[chilly bay]

wowhead atleast suggests slayer first

[hard rampart]

so say you bladestorm a pack and get them all to 10 stacks, RB has a 20% chance to cast reap, for each mob it hits

[chilly bay]

so they have updated their guide

[hard rampart]

so youre rolling way more dice now to get that proc

[unborn patio]

Ahhh gotcha

[hard rampart]

plus the M+/multi target slayer talents are really quite similar to single target, so you still get to slap bosses about

[chilly bay]

if i have understood correctly at AOE both specs are still pretty similar in terms of damage but when its ST slayer goes way ahead

[unborn patio]

That’s badass lol

[quiet breach]

exactly

slayer is just better fullstop

[uneven path]

Yeh I know, I just think if you really, really wanted to make RA build it should be MT

[jade fjord]

is this how a slayer breakdown should look like? sth to improve? 12 priory 7,27m overall

[young swan]

reap should be higher

[shut jetty]

Just remember to start every new pack with bladestorm

[sand crest]

this is how dawn/streets tend to look like

in priory reap should be top dmg for sure

holding BS if you wont have it back for next pack is key, as pony said

[glad coyote]

This is my 14 priory from today timed, while on work call

i also had 1 death

[storm birch]

Anyone have a number increase for the whole weapon enchant increase thing in raid? I didn't have it last night for fractillus but do tonight. Curious how my dmg will change if at all

[glad coyote]

you'll see a few % increase but nothing crazy from what ive seen

[storm birch]

I was reading archi's article but couldn't tell what it actually applies to

seems authority of the depths and our flask? and food i'm guessing?

That's nice though cause last night I was sticking around 6m dps on frac so tonight hopefully I can inch a little higher

[hard rampart]

@jade fjord you really wanna make sure bladestorm is up at the start of each pack, to get reap firing asap.

if for some reason it isnt, you can stick a couple bloodthirsts in there to fish for procs but it's not ideal

@storm birch pretty sure oils are 50% more effective

cant remember the rest

hover the buff in raid and it'll tell ya

[storm birch]

Well in archi's guide I believe it said for whatever reason oils aren't affected

But weapon enchants are I believe

[hard rampart]

you're talking about lvl 6 vandals rep?

[storm birch]

yup

[hard rampart]

oh yeah maybe im wrong

https://www.wowhead.com/news/hotfixed-weapon-enchantment-buff-bigger-than-expected-with-bugged-raid-renown-378456

it was hotfixed

[radiant plank]

Comes out as a <1% dps gain in total

[jade fjord]

aight noted!

[radiant plank]

if your Reap damage is very low in keys, the most likely reason is that you're not ensuring Overwhelmed gets applied to each new pack before you start spamming RB
• you basically want to make sure Bladestorm is available for each new pack, because it immediately applies 5-8 stacks, then RB
• if you can't Bladestorm new targets, focus Execute & BT until you can

[storm birch]

sadge

[jade fjord]

appreciated

[forest ginkgo]

For some reason when i do my macro which activates recklessness and then avatar, then charge, i arrive at the boss with 79 rage and it just never does a melee attack

is it a bug or just macro issue or timing with when i click it?

Or well i do a melee, but its almost as if my character misses a melee attack in the beginning

[winter shoal]

It's because you're out of combat so you lose 1 rage to out-of-combat degen

If you either wait a bit until you're already in combat before pressing reck > ava > charge, or heroic throw before doing those, you should be at exactly 80

[forest ginkgo]

The thing is im in combat

I always wait until boss pulls

Or is it that boss pulls but im not in combat yet technically?

Cuz thats so annoying

[winter shoal]

Yes

That's why heroic throw can help

[supple perch]

Mythic Araz (add dmg)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1413197405561819256/reaptech.gif

[daring coral]

aa

[winter shoal]

So true bestie

[rocky locust]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/bis-gear#bis-items-overall-bis
Why is Bone-Melted Faceplate BiS? Is it because you can essentially pick the stats you want on it?

[winter shoal]

P much, think tier helm is also crit > haste which is not very cash money

[cunning condor]

hm

what's our bis trinkets

[rocky locust]

I posted a link to that literally 10 seconds ago.

[cunning condor]

https://liquidarmory.com/trinket-tracker?wowClass=Warrior&wowSpec=Fury

this ones?

[rocky locust]

Nope. Look at what I posted 10 seconds ago.

[cunning condor]

if its 12 seconds

im calling the fbi

[shut cedar]

Yeah I have the weapon at 720 already

[clever stone]

is this too much raging blow?

[vocal flame]

should I be using Rampage every time it's up or only to replenish rage and focus on Raging Blow?

[subtle nova]

yo guys what is the stat soft cap/caps for fury?

[olive wraith]

There are none

[quick dock]

Use it at >115 rage unless it’s after bladestorm then you wanna use raging blow as much as you can before using rampage again.

[olive wraith]

Prio says refresh enrage or over 115 rage

[subtle nova]

then why does wowhead give bis gear with alot of verse instead of mastery?

[vocal flame]

kk ty

[olive wraith]

We like all stats. It’s a damage loss to only stack haste and mastery

Sim yourself as you get gear

[subtle nova]

alr was just talking to guild about that. but ty for the help

[olive wraith]

About stat caps?

There’s no such thing for majority of classes

[subtle nova]

no neck from mythick soulbinder dropped and we talked about who gets it

[olive wraith]

Oh. I mean it could be an upgrade. Just gotta sim it

Bis list only means something if you have everything on it

[winter shoal]

Your relative gain from equipping any specific item will depend on the other items you're wearing. Soulbinder neck used to be like 0.2% for me but it's now 0.9% because I changed around some other pieces

Always sim your own character for the most accurate results

[desert mason]

when is the best time to use the cursed stone idol trinket for a pull? do you use it on its own before using your CDs and charging?

[olive wraith]

Before cd. Can cast it while charging

[swift dust]

So Charge > Idol > CDs?

I'm also trying to figure out how to use it optimally.

[desert mason]

i wonder if doing a macro to charge would be worth it

[daring coral]

macro it all together

[desert mason]

cause without that trinket i would use CDs like reck before a charge to have enough rage from the charge to be able to rampage fast, get enrage, then go into the rest

[olive wraith]

Might wanna keep a sep bind tough

Like sometimes I’ll charge mid combat to a mob that’s not directly on the pack. And if your trinket is up it’ll use it

[paper ivy]

can we use this WA with the new Slayer build for spamming RB?

https://wago.io/r8u4tHLRQ

[swift dust]

I honestly want to get an Antenna and just use it and Pacemaker, even if it's not BIS.

[winter shoal]

yes

[desert mason]

i tested that using it during the charge make the attack go off on the mobs

[sleek parrot]

anyone got older version of sd condition weakaura? I updated it yesterday and I dont like how the sound now procs even when I cant press execute

[olive wraith]

You can change the audio

What

It procs when you don’t have usable exe?

[sleek parrot]

yeah it shows I have 3 stacks of slayer thing and the sound goes off but execute is not available

[glossy comet]

ok i know not many people like this, but is SMF at all viable?

[olive wraith]

10% worse

Ish

Depends on you if you think that’s considered viable

Actually might be more for slayer now

[stiff furnace]

Old one did that to me as well, Reggie.

[sleek parrot]

it's kind annoying, got used to hearing it and pressing execute and now sometimes nothing happens and I just stand there

[paper ivy]

do u ever use execeute with the new build? is it even worth it?

[stiff furnace]

I am not sure about the most recent since I haven't used it yet.

[olive wraith]

Yes

[glossy comet]

isnt most recent build slayer?

so execute very important

[paper ivy]

RB triggers Reap the Storm

[glossy comet]

you just talking for m+

?

[lapis shadow]

Im comparing my logs to others and holy hell. Im not even hitting 95s cause of my rampage value

Im hitting like 10-15 LESS rampage than others

[paper ivy]

so basicly in AOE sec u spam RB and ignore execeute but in ST u go for this ?

[lapis shadow]

My rampage value isnt even at 1m dps its at 800-900k

[edgy widget]

less rampage = less reck

[lapis shadow]

Very true.

And specially 10-15 of them thats 30 seconds - 45 seconds less Reck CD

And even less Bladestorms

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/358718716659105792/1126242171889123328/dead.gif

[olive wraith]

Execute is still important

It’s fairly high prio still

[glossy comet]

execute gives more bladestorms

[lapis shadow]

AWARE AWARE AWARE AWARE

[glossy comet]

rampage at 115 rage still right?

or just asap?

[paper ivy]

question is when is it worth pressing Execute over RB? like is ashen juggernut and sudden death procs worth it?

[stiff furnace]

Is the updated WA for SD more accurate or better than the previous version?

[olive wraith]

Follow the prio

[lapis shadow]

I feel like on a personal note from what Im aware of on my own gameplay

Its I get to 100 rage with Reck, click RB now im at 130 and then get a Kaching proc

and my brain auto click caching

Wasted major rage

[grim star]

if you arent enraged, you hit ASAP

[glossy comet]

aside from that though?

[olive wraith]

These are wowhead questions

[grim star]

Recklessness
Avatar simultaneously with Recklessness
Rampage if Enrage is not active
Bladestorm after a fresh Enrage
Storm Bolt only during Bladestorm
Execute with 2+ stacks of Marked for Execution or 2 stacks of Sudden Death -
Raging Blow repeatedly after Bladestorm, to build up Slaughtering Strikes for a bigger Rampage
** Rampage with >115 rage, delaying to more efficiently benefit from Enrage**
Execute while the target is below 20% and any number of Marked for Execution stacks -
Raging Blow
Rampage
Execute
Bloodthirst
Thunderous Roar
Whirlwind as a filler

[olive wraith]

The only time I’d suggest diverting from that is if a mistake was made and you don’t have bs on a fresh pack

[north sky]

so rq

since the bugfix

is slayer = thane in M+

[lapis shadow]

slayer > thane

[rose swift]

What got changed sorry?

[olive wraith]

#updates-midnight

[rose swift]

If its the raging blow hitting multiple targets for the reap proc, then yes slayer be the way

[north sky]

Okay

im stupid

[heavy sparrow]

Thane sims higher for me in pure aoe but when i actually tried it slayer did slightly better

[north sky]

does that mean yes or no in general

[glad marten]

Yes

[north sky]

got it

[glossy comet]

ty wasnt sure if this changed after hotfix

[olive wraith]

Thane also has more variance tbf

[olive wraith]

You could always read the wowhead guide and it tells you

[glossy comet]

thane should win in pure aoe, but mythic plus isnt pure aoe

[glossy comet]

wasnt sure if this changed after hotix

[azure horizon]

yo are we switching to slayer in m+ now?

[olive wraith]

#updates-midnight

[olive wraith]

It shows when it was last updated

[grim star]

the ST/"Funnel" (cake) damage fucks with the slayer build, cuts boss fights down by a ton in my experience which is only keys at 12 and 13

[glossy comet]

whens the attitude hotfix

[olive wraith]

It’s not technically funnel. But yes very good

[olive wraith]

Idk when do you get updated