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any good resources someone can link for rotational tips?
When simming for M+, do you guys add BL buff to the multitarget 1 minute sims? Feels wrong to include since there's very few pulls with BL but otherwise I guess I might have too much haste in the pulls that actually have BL 🤔 Probably overthinking this and I should just zug
mythical galastronk's mom head
when did brawlers guild get tossed out
Depends on what you are simming for. Quicksim ? Sure you can to see high numbers. Topgear ? Never, because you kill the value of haste on your gear with unrealistic 75% BL uptime.
If you feel, that you got to much haste, make some sims for statwaight. And compare the Numbers, like 1 min BL, 1 min without BL, 5min BL, 5min without BL. That you can See where your haste is.
I do a 90s 5t sim without bl
it doesn't make a big difference, you're not looking at the actual number, you're just looking at how the gear changes
the number itself is irrelevant outside of comparing against how different gear/talents make a difference, can't really tell how much you're "supposed" to do because it's way too irregular how big the packs are or how long they live
if you do a st sim and then an aoe sim and notice the gear is vastly different, you'll look at how big that difference is and make a choice between what you need more of, like "oh with this setup I lose x% st and gain y% aoe". If the amount of st you lose is relatively small and the amount of aoe you gain is relatively big, you'd probably go for that.
whats the best race por warrior fury/protection? and why?
think just based on pure "dps" numbers it's velf, but race doesn't matter
Dwarf, more crit dmg and self dispel
it's an incredibly small difference
some racials can be nice to have for certain encounters like nelf or dwarf, but it doesn't really matter
then stay human if you like human
Gnome is better looking
you're not going to do more dps as something else
The self despel is also a cure all. Very strong in the early stages of an addon, where prot Warrior could struggle with dot effekts.
Yeah I would say Nelf and dwarf are more impactful on prot
outside of the highest keys it really doesn't matter
nelf if you want to do meld skips, dwarf bc dispel good on tanks
But like Seen said. DPS from racials nowadays is irrelevant. Utility is what counts. But you dont need to adept for utility you dont need.
makes sense ty
eh irrelevant is a strong word here
go play vulpera
crazy racial for when you need to get to a specific dungeon after you already used your dungeon port, but the key you just used it for ripped
I would say, that DPS is variable and luck + Skill is always a factor. Utility to do certain things or keeping yourself alive is stronger in my oppinion.
Racial with the most flex: Night Elf Shadowmeld, also comes with free haste and omni dodge
there is no luck or skill in pressing the shop button and gaining 1.5% dps over your previous choice
and a nice ass
dwarf dispell is nice but afaik it hasnt been as relevant as last expansion
Hey there's a lot of skill in stacking boxes which gave me the money to go to the shop
Nelf got front flips
which miss chance u use for droptimizier?
im in sim queue rn, what do yall think is better? "bis" (wowhead) ring or shoulders whichi i would convert to tset (i havea hero ones right now)
im thinking ring because shoulders are many to convert but that specific ring is kinda sick
Is this OKAY?
edo done
Arakara 15
is it normal for BT to be this low?
my BT is usually around the 7-9% overall mark
wym
You Kind of drop it now since the hotfix
as slayer you dont use it
bt isnt when you have nothing else to press?
as thane you still spam it afaik
you were right im in the wrong dw bro
Hey guys i got myth antenna and i tested it on the dummies
mine looked like this 😅
nah all good i got confused too ahha
But it seems it doesnt proc that often
The pacemaker has higher uptime
Why would the antenna be bis
Dont even consider using it
With the new apl, there is rarely a Moment where you can Press nothing 🤔
i mean happens
my WA still makes a cha ching sound for blood thirst
yeah just WW lol
so just keep pressing ww rb rampage, right?
Btw you dont Play gushing wound anymore.
damn im doing everything wrong lol
ty for letting me know
im guessing this is the new one? copied it from wowhead
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4u78bwLwYr5BzucczdbHY8 so ring wins over shoulder, right? sorry for the spam of questions
Yes
🙏
I wish i could play powerful enrage
dont worry we are here to help
My 40 year old fingers hate me
<3
is that the way? i just copied hte wowhead ones and they arent running it
yes it has his variants but its ok
No it isn't
Since the hotfix, your 4p RB procs reap the storm every time you hit 5 Targets with 10 overwhelm stacks.
this is what im running rn
i see
so we are still running improved BT but barely press it right?
ah i see that makes sense
but we have to spend a point there to get to 2%mastery
For astral antenna, is there a good sim "miss chance" to get an average?
Or is there a way i can look at logs to figure that out
what about massacre tho?
true massacre also seems to be skillable
Nah
That Note you were talking about, yes that is used.
U can switch to fresh meat
Hmm i would rather run the bigger execute window 🤔
Yes. More haste, more attacks, more dmg.
i have a question about jastor diamond. The ring is simming extreme good, are the numbers correct or is this a sim trap?
does execute have more Prio than RB?
Sadly it is solid.
when would u guys pop cursed stone idol in a opener in dungeon
unless you are swapping rings before every pull you do i'd replace it with a hc track ring asap
Depends. You want to start every Pack with Bladestrom, otherweise you dont Deal dmg. So i would say having 2+ Marks or when the pull ist getting killed and your Bladestrom is still on CD increases the priority. My oppinion.
during charge
its prone to bugging out and the only way to counter it is swapping rings before every pull, if you're not gonna do that religiously its just a 684 ring
cool ty
then i think ima try that massacre talent node out instead of the improved BT, ty!
Check the new APL on wowhead tho
yessir 🙏
I think that is one of my newest struggles trying to figure out when to push execute or keep spamming RB
The aoe one is the important one. It is very good.
you can legit just play the st rotation in aoe it all sims roughly equivalent
Common spongie L
what the helly
It is a big Differenc in Long aoe Fights with 8+ Targets.
link sim
I just look at some of the top logs and it’s raging blow by a mile on everything else 🫠🫠🫠 even if your rage cap I see you still spamming RB for reap aoe
So on 5 or less I can prob just do normal single then?
ohhh so you want to dump all of your RB stacks every tiem
I mean I ain’t no pro here by means but RB will have hundred plus cast on your spells
last time i checked playing the st rotation and rbing over ramp unless to enrage and ignoring/including exe was vaguely the same but i cba looking now
I want to save this lizard gif damn it
Interestingly powerful enrage is 0.2% better for me in single target, but a lot worse in aoe
Sry i cannot, because i am Not confident enough to Play with the apm and use it as Proof. But i can say that ppl who are that confident, changed the aoe APL for the Sims because it is stronger in Multitarget, extreme in 8+ target Fights because RTS is 8+ softcapped and not like the rest 5 target hardcapped.
from what i see the current apl doesnt have any target count checks for anything other than to apply ww
0.2% would be sidegrade so equal and it's probably because you have giga haste already I bet
frenzied enrage scales with your haste
Yea i mean powerful enrage would be better for my old fingers to play, but its not better for number so, suffering will continue
Yes, ofc but if you already got giga haste the other trait could sim better
maybe
i think its pretty universal that powerful is better for st and frenzied for aoe tho
idk what sim you did tho lol, sims -100k for me
Frenzied enrage was like 1.4% better for aoe so i'm gonna play that
Not like i haven't suffered before
Kekw
Is there any instance that we hold casting bladestorm? Or hold it to aligns with reck or avatar? For slayer
yea, small hold for reck
or if pack is dying
and u cant get it back in time for next pack
you can hold bladestorm in a pull if reck is <15s remaining on cd, or hold it for the next pull to stack up overwhelmed
I like to ignore rotation and spam as many executes as possible too end of a pack if bladestorm is not back
usually not an issue though due to mobs being in execute anyway
Is Incorporeal claw a jebait? It sims higher than antenna for me dunno what to take...mainly for m+
or just for mythic tier
shoul i only use Bladestorm with reck?
im doing tank dmg and dont know what am doing wrong
daanngggg congrats
if he was a true servant of the light he would give it to you free
but grats man
Yeah
Enraged/av/reck/bladestorm
i use it on cds as well in m+
same
I don’t see why’d you send it by itself
just to do aoe dmg?
idk im dumb
ill look into it later thank you i just didnt realize that b4
To get overwhelmed stacks on mobs ?
No
And because of marked for execution BS can be up earlier than reck
press bladestorm on cd, if reck is <15s away you can hold it for that, if the pack you're fighting is about to die you can hold bladestorm
Ripclaw is alright in st, antenna was never an st trinket to begin with
Hi, im new on fury warrior and im unsure how should i use bloodthirst
hahaha
Well, as slayer
new season's tier makes raging blow also proc reap
does anyone know if the jastor diamond (684 myth track) sims are busted or not? like its still telling me to wear this thing
I can see it
Outsimming champ stuff
No way it’s outsimming hero/myth rings of this tier but I could be wrong
ive been using it for weeks 💀
i was told like two days ago that the uptime is busted when the sims are running or something like that? so it's simming way higher than it should be right now
It got out simmed by champ rings for me
and every sim ive run has told me to keep it
brother ☠️ i gotta be doin somethin wrong haha
the sim is fine but the ring itself is bugged ingame
I had a hero track tho
if you're not swapping rings before every pull it will consistently just not proc and basically be a 684
i personally would swap it for a hc ring
Tog gear
this was the one i was going to take, but the sim says continue using jastors. i have hero track whispers of k'aresh + signet of collapsing stars
this is the sim, if its of any use
will you religiously swap rings before every pull you do? if so, keep using jastor
no
Shoot I wouldn’t
most likely not
I ditched that ring lol
You don’t even get the full benefit if everyone else is ditching it too
what why
Do others having it around you not boost its effect?
you get the stats you lost somewhat?
no, it just either gives you stats or someone else
fuck yes
now that's a ring
Hey y'all should I consider taking two active trinkets? The sims are pointing to yes but I don't know about playing with that
i have the myth nerubian one in my vault atm and im tempted to take it
myth antenna/arcanocore are doing work for me atm in both MT and ST
So big I NEED IT
no tertiary stats so im vendoring it
xd
ayooo
Damn that guys killing soul hunters in 1 minute
so many 1min 3 target fights this season
Whoops my b :v
you should pretty much never pick signet out of your vault
Forgot I had that on from something earlier I was checking for the luls
at what item level is it worth to transform a normal item into a set item?
unpgraded screams riveting
They are just drowing me on trinkets :^)
Like 10k upgrade over sac
usually hc track or higher since thats the highest possible farmable track
im kinda new to the game, whats hc track? ive got a couple item lvl 694, should i convert those or not
main target + 5
does the item say champion or hero at the top
Gear thats hero tier upgrade
Upgrade hero level 1 so i assume it fits?
Hero track. Under the name of the gear you'll see "Upgrade Level: (track type) 1/6"
items are on certain upgrade tracks determined by what you looted them from, since you're new to the game you can probably just catalyze the pieces you have into tier pieces to try out the tier set while you learn more abt the systems
make sure the pieces you are catalyzing are helmets, shoulders, chests, pants, gloves, since any other slot won't become tier
+1 just send it, you're gonna be swimming in catalyst charges soon anyway
i already have 1 living weapon piece, i got 3 ethereal void splinters and 3 other hero items, do i just do it
ty
i think it should show the tooltip when u hover it
for tier pieces
ye it do
if you can confirm that the 3 hero pieces you have turn into living weapon pieces then go for it
yea they will, ill do that thanks for the advice
@smoky vale good morning geeohfiveseven

my warrior is ascending in aye oh
Warpclaw is bait, antenna 100%
warpclaw's bait?
do you guys have any idea how one gets ethereal voidsplinter? I turned my hero items into set bonuses but what happens if i drop something better like myth?
You get charges for the catalyst every other week
Once you use a charge it’s gone forever
alright, do myth items also have the set bonus or do I have to convert them myself
You can get myth tier set items from your vault or from the corresponding boss in the raid that drops it on mythic difficulty
oh alright, so no need to convert them with ethereal voidsplinter?
? everyone knows RB reap is related to overwhelmed stacks
just read the 4set
yk?
If the item already has the bonus on it, no you would not need to use a charge ofc
@coarse nest
nah
No I’d play slayer
slayer took over
and instead of pinging asking people
u could also just look at logs
I’m playing slayer on forge and soul hunters
@remote bobcat I won't 🤨
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/44?boss=3132&class=Warrior&spec=Fury
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/44?boss=3122&class=Warrior&spec=Fury
@remote bobcat ty
I hate forgeweaver... I have to run spear and it feels bad.
?????????????????????????????????????
man ur guild comp must suuuuck

Spear should just be a cc ability easy to get in the tree and be like sigil of chains.
Change my mind
My teams strat is to drop adds behind the portals can you imagine having to spear that?
Ain’t no way
Real
Remove spear like slappy hands.
😂
DKs raid utility is grip why are we stealing it like warlocks meta
Such a change to spear would make warrior goated in keys lol
I mean spear or roar neither giving you dps lol
Might as well take spear for this fight
Fr
Roar should still knock back.
Change my mind
Adds dying so fast roar maybe don't do anything too at this point
Spear if the adds where in front maybe so that you’re being helpful
But behind the portal running spear? Nah bro
Ain’t no way
I had wondered why they removed slappy hands
Then I saw rwf progging araz
And I understood. They didn't want to see 500 dks trivializing add fights
You know what friend, just because you’re suffering I’ll swap to spear with you

That is absolutely why it was removed
Imagine empowered AMZ and slappy hands
5 dks easy
oh i see, i thought you had to apply it manually if it was myth item level
Xd
That would fucking rock!
ggwp
Hi guys, so i main prot but sometimes my guildies ask me to go dps. I prefer fury to arms but because i have prot spec i only have one two hander from warband.
Is there a world were SMF is a thing for prot mains or shouldni stick to arms? (I now two handers are Waaay better, just asking for an emergency)
Don't do that to yourself. It's miserable. Having to hold a cool down sucks.
I know
SMF is not viable if you're looking to compete with other players in any way
Its viable enough for casual content tho
Hi everyone, I have a question about gear.
I’m not sure whether I should go with the ARA-KARA (Mythic) instead of my Stone Idol (Heroic).
The Idol is generally better to have, but I got a Mythic ARA-KARA drop. Should I still go with the ARA-KARA?
(Otherwise, I also have the chest piece in Mythic.)
Thanks in advance for your replies. 
sim it
God im glad there are more Fury players
But god damn so many new people
Is this how other discords felt anytime they are meta?
👀
yea
i go check thx !
(we arent even meta yet, just smacking competition)
(ara kara sacbrood myth track is always better than stone idol hero track, but you should compare ara kara sacbrood myth track to the other myth track items in your vault)

(that's why we sim our vaults)
I recall the influx of people in s1 of the expac that immediately fucked off
It was funny to see
first time i use a sim
?? gg ?
ggwp
Yea gg no re you loser
Hc raid viable? Is the content i dps
in HC everything is viable tbh
ofc its viable to beat hc raid, but u wont compete with others
not realistically at least
especially now with renown boost dps and people actually being geared+nerfs to bosses
Ok probably going to try get a second two hander. Ty for help.
I liked so much when gladiator was a thing, dps with a sword and board was so wicked
just so you know mate, SMF builds are okay, you're gonna be behind 2x 2h users by a lot, you wont get good parses mate but listen you can completely full clear the raid as SMF fury, you can easily compete with your friends based on good gameplay, but you won't beat well geared fury players ykwim?
Ty for help appreciate
must be nice having myth wep and the boots
your guild didnt do split runs for the boots Roohni?
what guild bro
We actually didn’t do splits either
?
why not
whats the point of doing splits for boots if not going for mythic raiding/more serious stuff
i doubt most guilds will bother
and i just wanna raid when i have time
then dont complain tho
splitting is cringe
why is my reap not proccing even tho i spam like crazy rb and keeping up my whirlwind stacks ? 😄
mandatory alts is cringe
your guild is therefore cringe
you need overwhelmed applied on the targets
i have it, but in streets somehow dosnt procing it
the math depends on per target, if less than 5 targets, you get less reap
Well to split you need characters to increase the loot that drops
if your guild is splitting alts are mandatory
Y know the requiremt for reap to proc ?
i do i apply overwhelmed via bladestorm
nah they just polled if everyone ahd alts, everyone said yuh so then they asked should we do a quickie normal soul hunters split and everyone said yuh
for boots
it aint that deep
Splits require alts, whether your guild accepts turbo trash alts then that's another thing
Hmm, than it should proc. Maybe unlucky with the Auto targeting, or you didnt Hit all enemys with BS
If your split run cannot kill a boss your guild is probably not at a wr that needs splits
yea, after all reap procs at 100% chance if all 5 targets have 10 stacks
odyn or no odyn
That's not how math works
no odyn
Its a 20% per target
Y have 4p right ? 😅
Not a cumulative 20%
It adds up to being 67% on 5 targets
six seveeeeeeeeeeeen
fury this season
67%
is staying in D stance that much of a dps loss? Berserker stance only increases auto-attacks by 15% and melee is only 1% of our overall, right?
Its a big loss yes
oh.. that makes more sense
It literally tells u how much mate
i felt it was close to 100% with how often it proced lol
Cutting 10% of your damage is quite substantial
-10%
outlaw discord is always like this
just needs some dedicated players
I have been here for long time
I think only one other time there was influx like that
Old man
Speaking of I joined this discord 9 years ago in 4 days how bout dat
D stance reduce the dmg you Deal by 10%
Its 10
ye
You take 15% less
You lose your Zerker stance benefits too
15% aa dam isnt alot to write home about
discord wasnt invented 9 years ago
I joined Discord November 2015

Than it should proc with 67% Chance per RB
which Weapon Enchantment i need to use after all the changes?
The one that Sims best 🤔 pretty sure the hotfix for the raid enchat increased is coming fast
You mean happened already
how are you guys tracking cleave charges? do you keep looking at WA meter or do you just count in your head to 4? im looking at the meter but not sure if it's that good to be focusing on WA meters instead of positioning
Well than, last time i checkt was 8 hrs ago 😅
Was fixed before that
yes guys argue about a <1% dmg diff
your WA should be close eough to your peripheral vision to be viewable while also looking at your char at the same time. Mine's right below
MB than
I use a bar WA for each charge
place the WA pack below your char so you can track abilities and position at the same time
I got a number inside my enrage Indikator (decreasing Flame from left to right) directly above my char.
how is shoulde outsimming jastorr replace
jastor is still big apparently
Jastor ain’t worth considering how often it bugs
i perma unequip it
I replaced mine weeks ago
Jastor is buggy and has low stamina
Imo should be replaced by HC track rings
Was such a minor DPS loss to replace with the HoA ring at 704 for example
I would go for shoulder, cause ring "only" got secondary Stats. And shoulder is already set. (When they sim the same)
Vers Mastery ring most likely
Most likely a ring
Regardless it will be a ring
My sim is telling me neck so I’ll prob go that route
got picture of your setup sounds good
Game refuses to give me a hero track neck if my life depended on it so it's forced my hand
I have a myth neck
I can send you one, when i get online (20 min)
ya mines still hero and neck / jewelry ez way to hone your stats you want
much appreciated!
do we only need one spark to recraft wrist from to max ilvl
y
@radiant plank ty baby
u REAPT EM
not Reaping ppl in m+
its not allowed
we will put into NERF prison
but why would u, just send the HC thingy on bracers and go for full upgrades of valuable items
Hey, is it OK to ask questions about the overall playstyle of the spec here?
For an elaboration, I'm looking for something similar to the old "Bomber" survival hunter, in terms of feel, not necessarily permanent numbers. Is Fury Proc-heavy and reset heavy, and expected to remain proc and reset heavy?
I am so bad at slayer in m+, I got used to thane, my damage isn’t there as slayer
When I look at my logg I see that I sometime cast WW after 3 and not 4, scared to miss out the cleave... Would you say this is a bigger dps loss then cast a RB without the cleave once or twice? 😄
hows this dmg breakdown for slayer m+, +10 priory, 2 chest
That’s a lot of rampage
Ramp should be under RB
way too much rampage
oh dear
In priory, reap is usually on top
The smaller pull dungeons like streets/dawn is where RB is usually above reap for me
I'm sorry, is it not OK to ask questions about the spec's playstyle here? I'm recently returning to the game, and I'd like to know if I should switch my melee main to Warrior.
have you read the guides first at least
No just shoot your shot
Yes
We yap here all day everyday
just go FDK and press 1 2

circleyap
We only identify as zug zug here.
thanks for that info. im tryna get used to slayer, and it felt good in the key for a change. my brain just sees high rage and preses is automatically, lol
actually insane how few buttons fdk has
i have 4 buttons on my single target build on my bars
I might actually be able to play it then
I mean you timed the key and did your job, not like you did anything wrong per se

only thing I hate about warrior is maintaining meatcleaver lol
other then that, zug
I know the information, but stuff just isn't clicking right. I know the basic priorities, etc., and the theories behind why all the stuff works. But I'm too scared to boost a character.
yea thats the thing that felt good with thane
yeh but if u use rampage as rage spend it still wont be r1 tbh if ur playing it correctly
yeah baked into thane was so nice
this!
the meatcleave builder was in the rotation as prio
Its stress me out so I push that ww to often 😄
I do as well lmao
thanks 🙂 ill continue to shift focus
Funny, maybe people flocking to the spec will get meatcleaver to be passive LOL

passive would be a dream like shout lust

Been warrior since 2005 but played arms for some time so just need to get used to the WW again
DM
Then MT came and you could forget about WW 😄

saved
tbh i probably wouldnt even press roar
I'm sorry. Maybe I should ask in the hunter discord. 😰
ur yappin what are ur question
i hvnt seen a question
I'm trying to ask about the playstyle itself. I am asking if it's proc-heavy and reset heavy.
yes to both them
Is it expected to remain that way?
Until we get a rework, yes
Its very high apm and high speed pressing.
Even if we get a re work we probably still will
ive got no clue. but definetly in single target if ur unlucky its not fun
in aoe u can just spamm rb no worries
also starting out , be prepared to get no invites to keys unless starting your own
OK. Thank you, I actually enjoy Proc-heavy Classes like DR BM and old SV Hunter.
Is anyone playing thane in m+ anymore or is it deadge

I still do every now and then for fun
Reap the storm too strong
Don't say that you'll get it nerfed, and then where will you be?
Where we have always lived
wdym bro
Imma run as many keys as I can this week cuz I fully believe they will nerf it
dont waste gilded on bracer, thats what he meant
much more worth it to spend on other mythic track items
how shit is netherprism for warrior? have a mythic one in vault
I miss Annihilator
turbo shit
Very ass afaik
i would take socket over it, any day
Ppl were afraid that MT prot would be nerfed too and we still clappin
According to Bloodmallet it's between ~3% and ~5% depending on ilvl in 1 and 5 target
do i use idol before or after reck? and i want to be enraged when using it or doesnt matter?
before all cd
you can reck, if you reck before charge, to start with rampage
else i would use trinket, then all cd
and full send

say the context too, its the 27th trinket on the list
pretty much garbage
only maybe use case is playing arms on salhadaar and prisming the damage amp
As a fellow Thane afficionado for the past two seasons, I'm trying Slayer in M+ for the first times these days and I admit it's quite fun for a change. I've looked up a few logs and it seems that we Execute a whole lot more. From observation alone (outside of what APLs say) I tend to have cycles of :
>
>
>(
or
)
depending on proc's for Execute. How wrong is that ?
It’s not a simple repetitive cycle like that
Well
Generally speaking yes
But you still have a whole priority to consider for each global
first starting out , I tended to hold BS a lil longer then needed , you can send that shizz and get it back pretty damn quick
sometimes i just go ramp-rb-rb-rb-(ww)-ramp
Imagine
ofc ww included

What is the haste mast missive called
he right
search for "missive" in ah and u will find it pretty fast
algari missive to show tww ones
Can also filter by expac
Thankyou!! And possibly but it kept doing "no results" bc my addon is fucked when searching hugely
happened to do a +10 streets next, 2 chest. RB smoked ramp
specifically tried to shift from ramp
Reap still rather low it def shouldn't be any lower than second on the list
So you tried to not press rampage and it ended up under RB, gee I wonder why
I have a 707 2h from vault and a crafted one at 720, if I craft a shield will it save me crests on the myth track 2h weapon?
your crafted one already saves crests for your 707
no it's a crafted 2h
Then you don't need to.
fury has an exception for 2h offhand upgrade crest cost
thanks for the help folks, on the right path at least
thanks!
Send a funny message, usually works for me. Gotta do something to separate yourself
I just put in big pumper damage and come walking out on top
Make sure you start every pull with Bladestorm (hold if you have to on the end of the previous pull) maintain meatcleaver stacks > maintain enrage > sudden death/Execute condition met > rampage if above 115 rage > raging blow spam
in general ive been getting WW stacks up, enrage up, before BS. i throw in the occasional roar before BS if i remember
I tend to try to do the same yeah
What WA do most of you guys use for Fury?
ex afenar
I made my own. (Fury Layout) and it's covering Prot' also a little bit because I've been tanking since TWW. It might be a little bit outdated however.
luxthos
Atrocity
are you sending on 2+ or just 3 for the marked for executions?
Hey what’s some gear that I can share from prot to fury like if I crafted wrist for prot am I just fucjed?
I’m a simple man… I hear “Ka-Ching”, I open the register and take out money
Hearing that sound more as fury is fun and depressing. The execute spec getting less procs than the spec that used to use it as filler
Ikr
But if u just dont play arms
Problem is solved
Its my tac
This tier
Was prot for 15y, arms was always my second. It feels bad, and idk how much my hand can handle if I got back fury, but slayer felt damn good last night doing some 12s. Even with poorly optimized gear
I abhor thane
Gross and icky
The amount of damage reaper did was disgusting and savage
I follow the WA that kachings when you should cast execute, it’s good enough for me doing 15s/16s
The little ghost kaching that happens when jug is about to fall off but execute isn’t castable throws me off sometimes but it’s easy enough to just deal with it lol
U could play powerfull not frenzied
Cant be a big loss
Does slowdown spex
I kept mine at 704
Wrists are not heavily stat weighted
So the crests will get you more dps on other pieces
I got some nice wrists from gambit and havent crafted wrists yet, im thinking of possibly crafting 720 helm as dont have gold for the mythic boe.
Idk about helm craft, you could vault a myth helm fairly easily and you definitely want max ilvl on helm/chest/legs
how much do those helms go for rn btw
Cloak and belt being taken already really forces you into crafting wrists at some point
1.4 last i checked but depends in server
fuck
Pretty sure you want belt and wrists as your crafts eventually like giga end game
But don’t sweat that now you have 5/6 more months of this season probably
Do whatever the robot says gives you the most damage and apply some kind of your own logic so you’re not crafting a helmet for example lol
yes
it can be the last thing you upgrade
This season i think we use crafted weap oh all season
And bracers only
Full ST raid yeah but probably not true for Mythic plus which is what a lot of people tend to switch their gearing too once raid is cleared for them
guys im a little confused on when i should be pressing BT? Am i always holding it for 5 stacks of Slaughtering Strikes ?
Bt??
you're probably thinking of bloodcraze
filler
if u dont have rb ramp exe
as slayer
as thane u spam it
pretty sure even roar > BT
nah
Or u dont have any ovwrwhelm stacks up in aoe
ST
what do u guys think 
still nah
this is ST though
warriors ST , hell nah. 
ok lemme fix it
might listen to all this lmao
Yo, quick question: Brutal Finish lets you cast Rampage with 50% increased damage at the end of Bladestorm. But after checking, Unleashed Strike actually deals more damage than Rampage when coming out of Bladestorm.
So, is it really worth taking Brutal Finish?
You’re not considering that you also stack slaughtering strikes which also boosts that rampage
fixed it
yessssss
Storm bolt does sound like a cool band name.
report this guy
I sleep on storm bolt
Nah
It must include system of a down song jet pilot dont even care it doesnt fit
😅
Never actually tried to, but can you stand in the consecrate cast in priory? Is it a one shot or nah
i usually skip the throw and storm bolts ngl
i do storm bolt but when needed and not splurging a DR
I stand in it all the time you have a moment to move out of it before the first tick of damage happens
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Even after the cast goes off? It's the initial cast I want to know about
Would help me maintain uptime
Well let me make sure I understand, you’re talking about the paladin mobs correct?
Yeah
Stand in circle die
Yes I stand in there pre consecration circle all the time
Y precast u get like 1 sec r
Just move out as the mob moves to the tank before the first tick of damage
Helps significantly with damage output on those pulls
For sure
Just care for overlapping concs they can snipe you if there’s 5 paladins in the pull and a ton of shit happening
i put stormbolt
need more raging blows
Yupp invite a BM and FDK to your fury key and you’re Bing chillin
Just nuke every pack and boss
im getting declined to +10's 
fuck dk
get a havoc
Or havoc sure haha
xan
Havoc also cranks
havoc buffs bm and just does more damage than dk
Specially when tank provides funnel
its actually so cringe
Precook bs?
I’m using the weak aura suggested in the wowhead article. Sometimes I get back to back to back insane procs and I feel like I’m using execute way too much during cds when I should be sending RB. Is anyone else feeling this?
Ok that’s what I been doin
need more raging blows
nono
Aware
you hit dummy before key
Yes
The turnip
Just be ethical and refuse to do pre stacking nonsense
Please ion remove this garbage
Thank you
More haste!
And here I am, disabling floating damage numbers for clarity
Never really looked but I like how 1 of the raging blows only does 5k
Maybe its just cut off but still funny
it's clipped (the rest of the numbers are out of the canvas)
Me after 5th cofee per day
uff hard i have normal shoulders -_- trinket or myt track
Not even a bl
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Everyones still here lmao
@celest anchor Hosen check
keine hosen

Is ther eany reason not to have two 720 crafted weapons? assuming my guild will never be doing mythic
a mythic weapon from M+ vault is the only worry
that said there's nothing wrong with crafting a second weapon, but I wouldn't super prioritize it
Hey guys do you run 2 points in Deft Experience with 1 in Critical Thinking or the other way around now?
2 deft 2 CT
2 deft, mast is too good

sweet, yeah not priotity atm, just a thought a bit later, cuz my fault never holds anything good anyway haha
so say we all

you lose out on 10% bt dmg?
It is extremely meh
When you consider you only Bt due to unhinged
Just did a 16 HOA, BT was 2.4% of my overall
10% of that is nadda
I mean somteimse I BT outside of reck windows to keep an enrage window up somties if im WW weaving
Shouldn't have to
I mean somtimes you gott dip in an out of melee for mechanics, idk sometimes it comes in clutch
Personally I never have that issue so yeah, I think that's a movement issue
Bruh where I live there's a taco joint on every corner
But I basically stick to tacos, no other mexican food really lol
There is no way a person has not had Mexican food
I don't like beans
i dont like beans either
but i force myself
im not just gonna throw away protein
that comes with the meal
you know
xD
I talked to a couple people near Vancouver and they said there were no Mexican places anywhere near them other than one chipotle like 20 mins away
so i can taste less of it
Facts
Yeah chipotle is the most "mexican" thing in some Canadian places fr
Are you Canadian tho
Americans eating Mexican food daily is just what nature intended
Quesobirria tacos man
Great American melting pot type shi
I love those damn things
Fajitas
Chimichanga
Bro you got me going
I’m hungry as hell now
It’s a deep fried burrito*
bro birria with consomme get me barking like a dog. From both ends
Fuck ok, I'm gonna try 1 this week lol
just had me some breakfast tacos, now I want fajitas
My insides feel like I ate chipotle does that count
Lmao rest in piece the original queso at chipotle btw
check if you have a ghost taco near you
This blanco shit is wack
need to talent Bitter Immunity for chipotle
Chipotle queso was always wack
Fuckl bro 100kms away, no shot
i already have shoulders and chest 723, should i choose the coins?
i paid like $70 for 10 tacos, 2 drinks, 2 sides
Sadly probably a coins angle yeah
That trinket isn’t completely awful but desync feels bad
plus i have dimensius trinket in normal and first boss in hc
You would just macro it to reck and send on cd with reck/BS
Not horrible for keys but it’s a pick you would replace
Socket you could put into a “forever item”
So that’s perma value
Godddaaaamnnnnn
can i socket wrist? (they are crafted)
Yes
yar
If I'm at 130 fury and wa execute proc. Should I rampage first and then execute or execute but overcap rage?
yep 720
USD or monopoly money
execute priority over rampage at full rage?
I'm having a bit of trouble with my damage in M+
currently hitting around 85-93 key% though i am seeing on most logs that reap the storm is quite far ahead of raging blow.
However my reap the storm is consistently lower, not by alot though. But i cant work out why, unless just unlucky on proc?
execute if you are enraged
Yes if a condition is met for execute
if not, then rampage
do u think i would be giving him specific recommendations if i wasnt canadian
and speaking in canadian money
Ok interesting. Thanks 
Likely not starting every pack with BS and or spamming raging blow to much so you’re missing out on a lot of BS cdr through out the course of a dungeon
The 4pc fix buffs our damage significantly it did not make it so we blindly spam raging blow and not consider the rest of the prio
i usually try to start with BS as much as possible, though getting timing down is weird
I’ve found it to be fairly normal to have raging blow be above reap in streets & dawn
Every where else reap is ahead a good amount
this breakdown seems fine for a low target count dungeon tho
This was Ecodome
Eco is our ideal key for farming an overall
eh, Floodgate is king
Reap should be on top assuming the dungeon is “clean”
I must suck at flood because I never feel like I do well in that place
u seen my overall from a weekly 10 today?
Missed it I think probably like 11m right?
Yeah that’s big I get around 9m in that place with sham and monk even
Maybe I haven’t had a tank pull it well for me yet idk
Likely I’m just bad lmao
i would say 9m is totally fine
9m in an io key
Missed time on a few 15s now
Almost got it
Haven’t ran a 10 since week 1
Thats my main concern, i feel like i should do better for my gear, but usually hitting around 7.2-7.5m (14s)
we just quickly do some 10s before raid, to fill vault and get gilded
But really does depend on dungeon / comp
depends a lot on dungeon
Overall is highly dependent on many factors
Comp pull size
Cd usage
Deaths
yea
Mobs brought into bosses
When are you lusting
Do you get full cd value during lust
Did you pot
Are you doing a lot of jobs
i've been trying to pot more, mainly on the giant pulls and at the start of bosses if CD are up
Cc / leaping for kicks etc
It’s easy to farm a giga overall in a key that’s easy for you everywhere else just go “did I time the key yes or no” good enough
I think my main one is CD management, slowly getting better. I will probably have to keep more of an eye on my rotation and not spam raging blow quite near as much.
can raidbots sim cloak gem stats?
This is so cringe lol. Demolishing 1 target, not using die by the sword, not using shockwave mid-pull
Playing arms in the first place
thats pretty much why we arent invited to keys
didn't she alt f4 a vision because of the bugs on screen affix
She’s on my realm so now I will need to lock in and crush her.
There is no other solution
shes a terrible player
what is she even doing in a 15?







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