fury

[quiet breach]

Wait i just realized i never got the free crests from cracked keysonte quest

i can still do that right?

[sinful spoke]

p

[quiet breach]

YALL, rumbling earth should have more value on Araz prog then second wind right?

[undone flower]

I play rumbling earth on araz yes, and I told my rl what was the actual CD of shockwave

If you take it without saying anything, you can talent it out

[signal jolt]

Too much haste and mastery? crit and vers seems really low lol 16k haste, 22k mast

[sullen dove]

maybe a lil low crit but idk other stuff seems generally fine

but you'll just get more stats with more ilvl

if sim says youre wearing your best gear should be fine to just listen to it

[restive peak]

You're just still low gear tbh

[undone flower]

You can take piercing howl too if you want

[signal jolt]

it does i was just curious cause crit is pretty low lol

[earnest canyon]

When are you switching main to BM hunter? You get cool pets to go on adventures with!

[restive peak]

I actually had hunter as my main alt during nya tier in BFA lol, I'm debating gearin mine

FDK got boring quick, esp now that it's not really better than warr lol

[undone flower]

Post a screen of your pets so we can judge if they are indeed cool

[earnest canyon]

ok sec, I need to find a good one

[undone flower]

Only gorilla pictures accepted

[hard fjord]

would you spend a catalyst charge on a champion piece of gear if it gave you the 4 piece?

[signal jolt]

not if you can get a hero piece from vault soon

or higher

[north geyser]

in the slayer build, is bloodcraze just for pathing or do we still press bloodthirst when we got 90% crit chance?

[undone flower]

I would say yes if you have > 1 or 2 charge left

[restive peak]

Just pathing

[undone flower]

https://tenor.com/view/perfection-perfect-michael-fassbender-magneto-x-men-first-class-gif-2260686001358167676

[hard fjord]

i have only 1, but im confident i can get the achievement soon enough for a free charge

[restive peak]

I wouldn't bother

I'd work my way to 10s for hero track at the worst

[signal jolt]

free charge? what

[restive peak]

Before using it

[undone flower]

Or you can do something malicious, like organizing a pug normal raid, and not invite people on your tier

[worn rain]

that's some advanced paladin behavior

[undone flower]

I do that almost every seasons

[hard fjord]

lmao diabolical but i love it

[undone flower]

On my dh this tier I left after araz lmao I had everything I need

[hard fjord]

ironic how the "good guy" class has that stereotype

[delicate mirage]

do i prioritize RB over execute if im already enraged to try and spin

[tulip bear]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2U2euYS1bsq9GGdvVUANUt

5 target sim, showing no reap the storm damage

[bitter palm]

classic wrath moment

[tulip bear]

what am i missing

[bitter palm]

bro didnt invite me cause we shared armor type

xddddddd

classic andy

[woven valley]

reap the storm damage is just put into raging blow last i heard

[tulip bear]

gotcha

[old hedge]

im getting mixed messages about how important this hotfix to slayer was. Some seem to be saying its a gigantic dps increase over mountain thane in mythic plus and other sources say that its not really that much better than mountain thane. What is the consensus around here? I am sure someone will say to ask the robot, but i still sim higher in mountain thane for whatever reason, could just be because i have been optimizing for it, idk

[storm birch]

Much better boss dmg. Decently better aoe except in massive packs. Much less RNG reliant

hopefully that helps

Thane still able to be played and not feel worthless in things like weekly keys. Slayer optimal

[old hedge]

thanks for the input. I am a bit dissapointed because I have been loving mountain thane even before these set bonuses and I love these set bonuses so I dont want to stop playing it, but I dont want to go from getting compliments for doing great damage for a fury warrior to being mediocre

[olive wraith]

Thane is still solid. What level of keys are you doing

[worn rain]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1234949058121171069/1412903541672116335/cf5bf04f3ef07460a75e27e4fe34fb58.png?ex=68c1e576&is=68c093f6&hm=d5c332b8f84d77633bc96ab77bbbfb74ac0b02dcbd30740a46c95f33d4e24cd8&

[old hedge]

I did up to all my 12s to get my resilient key but now i am just doing 10s because i dont feel any motivation to push io until the turbo boost thing kicks in

thanks for that Crunky

[worn rain]

thanks go to Archi

just don't ping him

[old hedge]

I think i can live with that to play what I enjoy

[olive wraith]

Oh thane is more than enough for anything under 12

[old hedge]

plus better survability

[worn rain]

you can do gorilla style dance in 10-11 and still +2

[old hedge]

once turbo boost comes out I will start pushing again

but i just know whatever i do before then will become obsolete

so why bother

[hard relic]

bideogam fun

[bitter palm]

cringe system

sybau blizzard just give me coins

so i can get the raid trinket i want at myth

[fringe vale]

astral antenna is so cringe

[undone flower]

What sorcery is this ? You mean you play for fun ????

[fringe vale]

don't we all?

[undone flower]

How???

[fringe vale]

if 0 fun is involved, then youn cut the sub, no questios about it. the fact that you still pay it means u still getting sum fun out of the game

[undone flower]

To be serious, I don’t’ really understand anti turbo boost ppl / with obsolete things argument

[fringe vale]

simple logics

[covert coyote]

by that logic why play this expansion because next expansion makes everything we've done obsolete

[quartz python]

anyone know if its worth crafting two 720 weapons?

[silent swift]

I actually just cant win against boomeis

[covert coyote]

like push now, reach what you can reach, then with turbo you get to do it again, 2x the fun

[undone flower]

Im gonna wait the turbo boost of the last patch of the last expansion of wow, you will see who was right AHAH

[covert coyote]

no sly, you'll want a M track in your main hand when you get one

[quartz python]

ok thank you!

[fringe vale]

i feel that, some times people that migrated from classic wow, still doesn't understand that trinkets and items don't carry over to other patches and or expansions

that old system doesn't work anymore to give room to other items/ways of doing stuff

[covert coyote]

Then I'll see you in WoW 2 and be the one laughing

[undone flower]

Damn, guess I’ll never play wow again but still comment on every wowhead post or twitter

[fringe vale]

• it was the own playerbase back then that wanted that to change because it was cringe seeing so much new loot going straight to DE or vendor.

[rocky wharf]

This our third night on mythic loomie. With no progress. Feels like we missing something. Half our folks die in p2 after the 2nd and 3rd push. Anyone got another vid/pov?

[fringe vale]

where u at

[covert coyote]

yeah that part of classic was interesting at least because there was some incentive to run older stuff, now it's just reset every patch except I'll be wearing this damn Jastor's until Midnight drops

[rocky wharf]

10% with half people up

[undone flower]

You got a raidplan of what you guys do / or a log so we can see the replay on how you manage this part ?

[fringe vale]

do you reach p2/dmg amp phase with all 20 alive?

[pulsar quest]

is something wrong with how screams sims

i see people doing like 400k+ on kills with their screams

and it sims like 100k for me

[fringe vale]

rngeezus

[pulsar quest]

im so fucked in gear right now i dont even wanna play lol

[fringe vale]

altough i have a feeling that it procs more offten based on how much key presses/aa u get

[undone flower]

wdym

[pulsar quest]

i dont have heroic boots so my cloak does 150k less damage, i dont have screams so thats -400k dps there, im still using normal track tier

[fringe vale]

so if ure constantly getting out of aa/swappiung target etc u get less

[pulsar quest]

like it feels like insane fucking rng to do good damage right now

[fringe vale]

no it doesnt

[pulsar quest]

other people randomly doing like 70k more dps from reap in a single target fight

[fringe vale]

press more RB

[pulsar quest]

it 100% does

[undone flower]

To do 99s*

[pulsar quest]

its literally like playing a slot machine rn

[undone flower]

Good damage is the damage that kills the boss or time the key 🤷‍♂️

[fringe vale]

press more RB use SD proc at 2 stacks of Marked

[pulsar quest]

Did your cloak proc more? Did you proc more reaps? Did your screams proc more?

[worn rain]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[rocky wharf]

Our lead on vacay for the week but heres our log https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Rkqa9VZJN2jdKFp7

[covert coyote]

slot machine is why I went slayer after the fix and haven't thought about mountain thane since

[fringe vale]

reaps are correlated to the amount of rb's u send

[pulsar quest]

no kidding but its still a proc chance

[fringe vale]

if ure not maxing ur rb spam

kure not capitalizing on reaps

[rocky wharf]

After a long time, we sometimes get there

[fringe vale]

what's the main cause of you allm not getting all 20 alive for p2?

if its beams, thats easy to fix

if your raid leader has people assigned to kill cocoons

(adds)

and at beam also hes trolling

specially if ure melee

[rocky wharf]

I feel like its melee and range puddles. Nah we talking about the 2nd phase

[plush ice]

i mean, if i dont swap to the cocoons we don't kill the boss lol

i'm like 3rd in damage on them

[fringe vale]

u dont have warlocks/spriest in ur group?

rogues, hunters....

those fuckers get a buff for more targets

[plush ice]

yeah, and i'm higher then all of them except one of the two lockes (one is amazing and one isn't) and the ele shaman

[fringe vale]

you dont in puyre single

[plush ice]

ele shaman on them on my team is crazy

[fringe vale]

tbh u should just zugboss

[plush ice]

i mean, i'd rather sit and prase, but ya gotta kill teh boss

[fringe vale]

cleave adds with bs and thats it

[plush ice]

i mean, i dont think you understand, we kill them slow as it is

[fringe vale]

trust me ur dom isnt needed in cocoons

[plush ice]

if i did that we litereally wouldn't kill it

[fringe vale]

tell ur rl to asign u to a beam soak

[plush ice]

yeah i'm a beam soak

[fringe vale]

so u cant get assigned to adds

[pulsar quest]

i had to kill cocoons on our first kill too

[fringe vale]

ur rl is trolling then

[plush ice]

but melees are first soak so they can go to the cacoons after

[pulsar quest]

i did more damage than our mages to them

[undone flower]

Give me 5 min I need to be on my pc

[plush ice]

yeah, i wouldn't think arcane would do any to them, but our hunters don't really do much dmg to them, or the sp's

[fringe vale]

are ur hunters mm or bm?

[plush ice]

ah, lets see, tongiht we just ran one of the two, and he was bm

[fringe vale]

ok bm is ass at swaping target

[plush ice]

nah, bm is fine at swapping

[fringe vale]

if hes playing stampede he will never swap

oits a huge dps loss if he does

[plush ice]

ok, i take that back

[undone flower]

Should swap target anyway if tangles are an issue

[plush ice]

on our kil tongiht i was 4th, not 3rd, one of the two sps was def above me

bm hunter was 4th actually

[fringe vale]

tangles should never be an issue when you have warlocks shadowpriests rogues dk/s

the list goes on

[plush ice]

yeah, but like, thats not reality, sure it should, but like, we're on soul hunters now, we're your gardien variety mythic team

with a big wash of skill levels

[undone flower]

It can be 🤷‍♂️

[plush ice]

so the reality is, if i dont swap we dont kill it

[undone flower]

Not everyone is good

[fringe vale]

the reality is that your rl is trolling hard having you do beams and dmg to adds while saying nothing to the warlonk and spriest below you

[plush ice]

well, beams dosn't have anything to do w/ the adds

[fringe vale]

that is huge trolling

[plush ice]

beams are super done by the time the adds come out

[fringe vale]

it does when u get beams u cant dmg adds

[plush ice]

?

[fringe vale]

if urte a pilar at add dmg

[plush ice]

melee takes first beam

[undone flower]

???

[fringe vale]

then u should not be asigned at beam

[plush ice]

you're done as the adds spawn

range usually take second beam

[fringe vale]

wait

what?

[ebon venture]

in slayer M+ AOE, is rampage highest priority while enraged or RB takes precedence?

[fringe vale]

pls dont tell me youre like charging at add whenever it goes live after tank frontal

[plush ice]

yeah

[fringe vale]

and pls tell me ur other melees arent doing the same

oh

[plush ice]

you can't charge at an angle, but as long as its a small angle there's no reason not to

[rocky locust]

Bone-Melted Faceplate is the BiS helm. Why? Is it the fact that you can essentially pick the stats you want on it?

[fringe vale]

you should wait till its in range to cleave at least boss at the same time

[plush ice]

i did die once one pull by being too far out, charing and dying, so you kind have to like be aware of where you are at

[fringe vale]

you know you can just move

the adds move at like negative speed

[plush ice]

well, no reason to move when you can charge

i mean, the first one, usually iwalk to the 2nd

[fringe vale]

i feel your group is trolling for no reason

the adds are prio of casters that are good at swapping targets

spriest warlocks mm's

melees engage when the adds are close

because then u fuck the puddles also

that spawn

[plush ice]

yeah, i dont think you quite understand

i mean, yes, if i was in a diff guild, that would absoustely be the case

[undone flower]

I don’t think too

[plush ice]

its very bad for me to swap

[fringe vale]

dont swap then

[plush ice]

but like

i could not swap

[fringe vale]

tell tyour rl

youre a player not a soldier in a regiment

[plush ice]

and as opposed to it takeing a few reps, we'd be there like, an hour

[fringe vale]

you follow orders yeah

but if the orders are dogshit you can always tell ur rl

and it has nothing to do with parses

its pure bvetter dmg input on boss

[plush ice]

so, once again, you don't understand

its not that some people arn't swithcing cause its some grand plan

[fringe vale]

overall can you dm me a sc of the dmg on adds for a good try/kill?

[plush ice]

yeah, or i can link it here, its no big whoop

but yeah i'll link you our tongihts kill on it

[fringe vale]

link in dm its better

[plush ice]

yeah, i linked you add dmg

i was 4th, but essentailly tied w/ our good destro lock

looks like we sat our 2nd lock tongiht

[acoustic basalt]

ooooof

there goes my luck for rest of season

[south lintel]

Worth

Grats

[runic violet]

nice

[earnest canyon]

break some circuits

[undone flower]

since the topic is p2, i watched the 6% wipe / will not talk about the missing persons, i guess you know it is an issue, the spread seems very deadly at some point

[merry jetty]

tough one, prolly idol tho
(dont have a myth wep, dont have myth trinks)

[undone flower]

you should maybe be more aware melees can spread all around the boss / you are not required to be on soak positions outside of the soak timing, + there is a big boss movement that must have cost quite some room

[worn rain]

here some real oof for ya

[flint lotus]

Ticking Sack of Terror Myth or Tier Legs Myth? Have Hero Tier-set + myth shoulders before (not gonna raid myth).. Doing keys + HC raid, and MAYBE killing 1-2 bosses myth if we can get people

[quiet breach]

I'd prob take wep

[quiet breach]

bro what that's good as fuck

[compact knot]

is that the cursed axe

[worn rain]

also socketed

https://tenor.com/view/really-are-you-kidding-me-got-to-be-kidding-youre-kidding-me-seriously-gif-6521278384595665157

[young swan]

nice lil 14 ara for resil woo

[compact knot]

it is probably weaon unfortunately

[undone flower]

FF

/abandon

[chilly fractal]

✅

[merry jetty]

prolly better current pick, but wep farmable- trink aint

[quiet breach]

do u have myth reshii boots?

[quiet breach]

myth wep is not farmable

[undone flower]

it's socket time

[quiet breach]

dawg what

no

[chilly plume]

0.9% araz wipe

[quiet breach]

take the fucking myth reshii boots

[merry jetty]

it is, myth raid

[quiet breach]

wait NVM that's plexus boots LOL

[worn rain]

those are regular

[edgy widget]

I really hope you're using the shovel weapon mog

[sullen dove]

why does nexus king just like continue to suck while the dark star circles are already out

[slim coral]

Oh nah

[quiet breach]

how many m bosses have u killed

[undone flower]

some sticks, still in weapon mog search ngl

[merry jetty]

6, forgeweaver being the only one dropping, still farmable

[worn rain]

double forks

[merry jetty]

eventaully fullclear vs idol only being in vault

[quiet breach]

fair enough, I have yet to have to make a hard decision with my vault

[runic violet]

man.. it sucks not having something to farm

[quiet breach]

literally every vault has had one obvious best choice

[edgy widget]

try shovel and pitchfork

[quiet breach]

farm io

[runic violet]

the employmenti s not easy

[quiet breach]

huh?

what does that even mean

[runic violet]

warrior dps not so popular Xd

[young swan]

definitely is

[storm birch]

it is much more popular than it has been that's for sure

[quiet breach]

I am only on 13s rn cuz I only started pushing last eeek

[quiet breach]

but I have yet to have issues getting invited

[runic violet]

just got invited to +12 gambit

brb

[storm birch]

lol

+16 ara kara wish me luck D:

i'm nervous

[undone flower]

i don't like how high my char hold them / gnome issue

[runic violet]

my butthole would be puckered up

[edgy widget]

FIND OUT

[fiery tide]

is this a good trinket or simbait?

[fringe vale]

whats the simtrap?

im keen to say antena is a huge simtrap tbh lol

[young swan]

its not really

[fringe vale]

depends if you cana get the orb

[young swan]

20% miss chance is on the pretty high end

[fringe vale]

if it doesnt spawn just after u leap

and charge

hate when that happens

[pseudo nebula]

it's no longer possible to get half spark with vault coins this season?

[bitter palm]

can you transfer valorstones between characters

[worn rain]

you'll be able to buy it later

as usual

[outer rover]

are they all bad? i have hc ara kara and pacemaker

[bitter palm]

soleahs is good

[outer rover]

ok

[bitter palm]

not bis but better than hc options for sure

[pseudo nebula]

ah damn , i got kinda ass vault and thought i could have atleast get second crafted 2h one week earlier

[ebon venture]

With slayer for M+ in AOE scenarios with full stack overwhelmed. Is RB higher priority than Rampage while enraged?

[bitter palm]

yes

u rampage for enrage

[ebon venture]

so essentially reap the storm will prob be my highest damage ability

[worn rain]

you can pick tokens and sit on em a bit

[ebon venture]

in the whole key

[bitter palm]

yes

[pseudo nebula]

could always get signet but is as good as an Hero stone idol and the idea of having it not syncing with avatar is annoying

[bitter palm]

i wouldnt take either ngl

both are bad

[viral shore]

Man... Hero track Antenna or Myth trach Zweihander with Leech. Last week nothing worthwile this week I can't decide 😄

[bitter palm]

weapon

i assume u dont have one already

[sullen dove]

dude if you kill dimensius you just cannot go back through the raid in any fashion

this shit fr

[viral shore]

I have a hero track zweihander at 710

[bitter palm]

take weapon

[sullen dove]

my 15 gildeds off saladhar i forgot to loot the fuck man

[bitter palm]

since u crafted one u only need 15 gilded

to max it out

[bitter palm]

is there some superfast way to grind stones

[sullen dove]

valorstones?

[bitter palm]

yes

[sullen dove]

idk have some of the gold stuff from bountiful delves and use at the azerite echo thing

decent couple hundred usually

[bitter palm]

i got one

gg

delves despair

[worn rain]

ye radiant echo in undermine

huuuge amount of stones

on the bottom one

last time I've done it it was about 300 per 5 echo

[sullen dove]

think quick weekly stuff is decent

like awakening the machine maybe 2-300

or im lying and its like 80

but felt like a decent bit

havent done in like months

[worn rain]

more like about 100~

[sullen dove]

not super time consuming either way

better than a key

[worn rain]

but it is fast ye

[bitter palm]

fuck this system

remove stones

[worn rain]

stones are fine, cap is cancer tho

[sullen dove]

i mean

atp just dont have stones

they truly are nothing but a waste of time

like yea if there was no cap youd build up enough for it to matter after a week or 2

but just zero reason for its existence

[worn rain]

low level unlimited upgrade currency

[sullen dove]

crests are enough time gating

losing 1800 when you upgrade one weapon from 1/6 > 6/6m

then u just cant upgrade anything until you do 15 more keys

[viral shore]

f me... the zweihander sims better than the antenna... now I have to pass on an antenna in the vault for my not-even-bis weapon. this feels really bad 🙁

[jaunty ridge]

Anyone else just have 100% crits on execute for 50 casts on a boss? Fury owns.

[sullen dove]

are they both myth

or whats the sich

[forest owl]

sack 2.3% upgrade over my house of cards

[steady plume]

was there some boost the vers stat weight that I'm unaware of for this season? like everything I'm siming it recommends vers gems/enchant and recraft to include vers

[sinful spoke]

if its myth trinket vs myth wep i say go trink

[sinful spoke]

antenna too strong to pass of

[viral shore]

antenna is hero, zweihander is myth with leech

[bitter palm]

JUST HAD IT

[sinful spoke]

oh

go wep

lol

[bitter palm]

gg

[jaunty ridge]

gg

[sullen dove]

prolly weapon then i mean antenna good but dont think its like so wildly better than other trinkets to not get myth weapon as early as possible

do u do any myth raiding

cuz if not then not impossible you get a couple myth track m+ trinkets that may generally be as close to good as the hero antenna or a lil better

[viral shore]

no I don't mythic raid. yeah zweihander sims better in every scenario. still feels really bad to pass on the bis trinket. 🙁 this vault is not fun

[sullen dove]

but as for the weapon not being "bis" that kind of thing is pretty irrelevant

like its effectively bis enough

the change of like -800 verse for +800 mast is pretty insignificant

think the only truly "bad weapon" this season is skyreaver but even still would send that if i had it and nothing else like super good

[viral shore]

yeah thats true. thanks. now it feels a bit better to take the weapon 😄

[sullen dove]

and yea feelsbad to pass trink but like hero track its prolly not impossible to have more chances to get it as weeks go by

and if nothing else can dinar it in a few weeks if really need it by then

where couldnt dinar a weapon

[worn rain]

Maw of the Void kekw

[sullen dove]

o yea

[bitter palm]

guys i forgot to use soleahs

gg

[bitter palm]

skyreaver aware

[quiet breach]

I deleted the cracked keystone quest out of my inventory awhile ago, so i never completed it. i now need the gilded crests, can i still do it? what tier delve do i have to do to get another cracked keystone?
i havent done a delve since

[sinful spoke]

:(

[covert coyote]

11

[bitter palm]

do u have skyreaver

[sinful spoke]

the wat

[bitter palm]

weapon skyreaver

from taza

[sinful spoke]

ohh

no

[bitter palm]

good

that sounded like a typical skyreaver curse moment

[runic violet]

slayer so much more fun than mountain

[worn rain]

I'm cooked then

[bitter palm]

@warm crag

another poor soul consumed

[thick wadi]

💯

[worn rain]

thane visually still goat

[runic violet]

it's fast

and I can't get a fucking invite XD

[thick wadi]

Spin to win

[runic violet]

I really don't want to play prot just to get invited

[jagged hawk]

Neck sims ~5k higher than Antenna (since I already have a Hero Antenna), but Myth Antenna is a Myth Antenna 🙃

[covert coyote]

5k is margin of error. accept the blessing you've been given

[silver tapir]

Psh. Can always craft a neck

[silver tapir]

Ive had good luck with invs in last few days - ppl realizing fury pumps now

Are you applying to keys that are too high for your xp? Or that are waiting for lust/already have 2 melee?

[sullen dove]

70k single target dps loss to drop focus in chaos and cshb for 2 crit thinking but 300k dps gain on 7 target 40 seconds to do so

surely this is the play for soulbinder

[verbal plaza]

ig i send gloves since there will be a turbo boost and be able to buy m+ trinkets?

[sullen dove]

shure

or i mean if u reclear every week

can just maybe get given tier off boss

[jagged hawk]

I think our Raid as a whole is blessed by vaults this tier - this is afaik Myth Antenna #8 in our Guild 😅

[woven valley]

I’m jelly, none of my vaults have been awful but I haven’t gotten anything amazing :c

[kind cypress]

Been trying fury with the new 4 set. If I have, for example, 1 second left on enrage would you hit raging blow then rampage to regain enrage. Or would you use rampage to extend it?

[oblique thistle]

slam RB until enrage drops off

any RBs you can squeeze in = more

[bitter palm]

ramp

unless

rb AND reap are covered

what can happen is u RB with enrage

enrage drops and reap isnt enraged

with 1s left u would rb tho

[kind cypress]

Ahhh thats a good point, I've been managing to time it where that reapers would just hit with enrage. Just wasn't sure if it falling off for that global was bad play or not

[bitter palm]

you dont really fall off cause rampage enrages u then does damage

[kind cypress]

That was my logic I've just only played it for 3 dungeons. Normally play prot and arms so fury is new to me

Figured an auto attack without enrage wouldn't matter

[thorn steeple]

hey!
do you guys set arms loot spec when opening vault to get better chances on weapons? or it doesnt matter?

[oblique thistle]

yes

If you still need a weapon, lootspec arms all the way

[thorn steeple]

so its only for weapon, and fury for everything else?

[oblique thistle]

honestly I dont think it matters

[vague copper]

I mean, good thing that BM got buffed right? 😄

[thorn steeple]

ok

[oblique thistle]

whats the damage like on the next pack

[vague copper]

Yeah

[oblique thistle]

and bosses

[vague copper]

I know, but still.. BM have not been bad

[bitter palm]

highest in the game why

by far

cause the spec is just straight up broken

[celest mountain]

help me out, head or Stone Idol? says head for raid but idol for m+. Keep in mind i do have pacemaker myth, screams and arcanocore myth version

[bitter palm]

do u care about m+

even then

[bright ledge]

stone idol

[bitter palm]

just go helm

[celest mountain]

ye doing both

[bitter palm]

thing is

u can get hero track idol upgrade it to whatever is max for hero track

cause u got myth trinkets so its free right

if u take myth idol

u are never equipping it in raid

head is useful everywhere

and its a big stat piece

[celest mountain]

tru

❤️

[bitter palm]

myth idol is prolly the play if u only care about m+

[quiet breach]

do u have myth or hero astral antenna?

[queen flame]

guys, if you would start a fury warrior alt right now, would you wait week and just craft 2x 2Hand weapon next week?

[bitter palm]

craft 1 2h and bracers with the free hero crest

[humble portal]

Nope

[median kestrel]

slayer or thane on m soul hunters

[oblique thistle]

thane for convenience

tblast is big

[olive wraith]

Craft 2 675 and just grind

[verbal plaza]

dw too much about it made the char like 4 days ago and got lucky to pug first 2 bosses

no i don't xdd

[bright ledge]

is someone looking to do 15-16s

[chilly bay]

When doing the rotation, should you have meat cleaver up when casting rampage? It feels like rampage is not using the charges when cast or am i just missing something?

[bright ledge]

cant find a group jesus

[sinful glen]

Sacbrood i guess?

[quiet breach]

never craft a second 2 hander

[olive wraith]

Yes it’s worth to ramp with cleave

Should cleave everything

[bitter palm]

the last hit consumes the charge

all of ur hits cleave the buff is just removed on the last hit

[chilly bay]

oh, that explains things

thanks guys

[rugged cradle]

i also got myth antenna in the vault
sim wants me to take myth legs, and i got spare gilded to upgrade trinkets as first vault was HC tier so i got some spare.

im unsure if i should trust this or just take antenna because everyone is jizzing over it everywhere and wowhead trinket sims show it as second best. any advice?

[sullen dove]

myth antenna prolly better

if you regularly kill loom like literally everyone wants antenna

and tier legs smaller pool of ppl

plus you can cata literally any legs you might get from m+

[bitter palm]

i would take antenna

chances of getting legs in vault compared to antenna

[rugged cradle]

we just finished prog on loomie yesterday and it should be on farm, but tier legs also drop from him

[bitter palm]

is huge

[sullen dove]

yea

antenna def just the move

[rugged cradle]

allright, thanks

[dense fulcrum]

is worth swapping to 2 duskthread this season or we'll keep ascendance and writhing? because its simming me lower using 2 duskthread

[sullen dove]

embells are all around ass

[vague copper]

Jesus, the game tells me to not play hunter.. Was my main when this season started (yes I left my warrior in dust for the first time since 2005 or so).... The hunter get shit in vault, so bad so I don't even can save it in catalyst :D.. 2 mythicparts and 702 ilvl by now.. And that is full send more or less :D..

[sullen dove]

2 threads better for m+ ascend prolly still better for raid? but should be inconsequential either way

[worn rain]

ascendance feels like shiet in m+

[sullen dove]

only two real choices for embell slots are bracer and belt anyway

[vague copper]

Meanwhile Warrior that started one week late and ~2slotts in vault.. 211 😛

[sullen dove]

and maybe your off piece tierslot but ideally thats still just a regular myth item

[sullen dove]

[dense fulcrum]

the thing thats tilting me is that i have myth belt dropped from raid and myth helm from vault so idk what to craft next week and writhing is sims like 0.2/0.3% higher than 2 dusk, but ye in m+ prob is better, but idk what to do next week

[bright ledge]

wrist

[sullen dove]

i mean also dont have to craft something

but like if u have no myth to upgrade like rings usually are safe

since u need 2 its not the worst if u get 1 good myth ring

[dense fulcrum]

already crafted

[sullen dove]

would imagine getting a crafted myth ring is better than like whatever .3% upgrade of embell

[bright ledge]

if need ring then ring or neck if not you dont have to craft somehing

everyhing else you will get it soon or later

[sullen dove]

but myth belt is gud i have it too

[dense fulcrum]

was just wondering because i liked the versa bonus from dusk in m+, but dont wanna really craft a belt for it since i have it myth and same for helm ngl...prob gonna craft a ring or neck (depends what vault will give me) and keep writhin+ascendance

[sullen dove]

if youve spent any gildeds upgrading it prolly wouldnt craft one any time soon with gilded

otherwise just flat out wasted a ton of gildeds

[dense fulcrum]

it has 3rd stat too lol

[sullen dove]

big tert

[dense fulcrum]

idk speed

its something ig

[sullen dove]

yea i mean embell swapping cant stress enough is like as insignificant as it gets in terms of gearing right now

can think about it late season if you want

but what 1.5k verse i think from the threads?

[dense fulcrum]

yep

[sullen dove]

almost just like swapping all your gem colors or stat recrafting armor

and 1.5k verse out of idk like 15k

its nice just not like not suddenly make or breaking any key

[spring oar]

in m+ AOE, its keep enraged > 2+stacks of exe > RB or Enrage > RB till empty > send Stacks of Exe?

[cobalt relic]

sadge

[fading sky]

How do we feel about Big mamma Neck ?

[dense fulcrum]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wM1nK6S6MucjfjJr3KYPfD this is what the bot says (talents are m+ dont mind them a lot)

[sullen dove]

yea i mean makes enuff sense like ascen should be better st

so would say no real reason to fix what isnt broken

til you have enough gildeds to swim around and not care what you spend em on

but like idk maybe just till turbo boost and then can think about swappin over

be fully geared by then most likely

[dense fulcrum]

yep

[sullen dove]

getting like 5-10 more ilvl in that month and a half or so just gonna be way larger than swappin an emb

[dense fulcrum]

im overthinking probably

[sullen dove]

[serene moat]

should i instapick antenna, or hoa ring cause its more rare?

[dense fulcrum]

sim is the best, but antenna is working pretty good for me in all content

[sullen dove]

eh i mean its good ring but not like u cant get basically the same thing from crafted

like forgeweaver ring basically identical no

heavy mastery low haste

if like whole raid needs antenna prolly just that

[serene moat]

antenna sims best ofc. but i could at least buy antenna during turboboost, if i dont get it in raid

[young swan]

hoa ring is a worse version of logic gate omega so literally never take that thing

[serene moat]

sims says hoa is better

but nvm

lets pick antenna

[sullen dove]

yea they about the same ring anyway

couple hundred +- stats

[young swan]

might be better rn but if ur looking long term, which is the only reason you would take a ring over a trinket, you're taking logic gate omega

[serene moat]

since i forced a teammate to do the same last vault by saying he would get lootbenched if he would pick tier instead of antenna xD

[sullen dove]

prolly correct decision

[serene moat]

thanks guys 👌

[coarse widget]

i have this weird bug when trying to sim my fury spec. anyone can help me?

here's the error i get: Error: Actor 'Arthmodan': Player 'Arthmodan' unable to create action: shield_of_vengeance

arms sims just fine. it's just fury that doesn't work. addons are updated

[sullen dove]

i mean thats a pally ability but idk why its sayin that did you copy paste it into the simc somehow

would try and just retype /simc in game and repaste

[young swan]

kind of ascending
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3BbgxM1vW4td2bE6eneuBX

[sullen dove]

still champ screams..

[coarse widget]

i tried multiple times. no go :<

[silver tapir]

Wtf is the turboboost ppl are referencing?

[sullen dove]

they did it last season gonna do it again

like around 11.2.5 or somethin

add 2 tracks to all hero and myth items

[coarse widget]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/turbo-boost-is-returning-in-season-3-in-patch-11-2-5-378134

[young swan]

11.2.5 they are adding 6 upgrade levels to every track and a vendor where you can purchase items from bosses you've killed on the highest difficulty you've killed them

[sullen dove]

so hero caps at 717 and myth caps at 730

assuming 730 cuz its cape ilvl

[young swan]

7.2.5 btw

[silver tapir]

Gotcha tyty

[young swan]

what is wrong with my brain

[white relic]

sadge sadge

[oblique trail]

You're stuck in the past unc

[olive wraith]

Fukn Dh are huge

Saw my first real one

[pseudo nebula]

Had to pick mythic signet as my trinkets were Antenna RF e 684 Pacemaker lol , since its practically impossible to sync it with any cd i guess im going to use it raw cycling with everything else.

[young swan]

just line it up with the closest BS

or reck

just whatever cooldown is closest lol

literally doesnt matter

[sullen dove]

ideally reck/bs at same time should be good yea

not like an extra 12 seconds of avatar is that big of a deal in the long run

[quiet briar]

Morning all, with Fury bug/class tuning does BiS gear change on sites WH and Icy? also is it still Mast > Hast > Vers > Crit like it states on Icy/WH? cheers

[sullen dove]

generally nothings changed and sure can vaguely follow those stats

but simming gear as you get it best practice

[pure wyvern]

Sim says take ring, surely i want a chest with leech ?

[sullen dove]

probably can always craft a ring

[pure wyvern]

good point ty

[pseudo nebula]

I'd assume I want to make sure it gives mastery as I got both haste and mastery close and it would be wasted with haste going about 90% with it

[sullen dove]

idk if thats really in your control but yea ideally any other stat instead of haste maybe a lil better

but not like haste unusable

[worthy haven]

I'm sure this has been asked and beaten to death but I can't even search for the answer lmao
is screams on bloodmallet terrible in 5+ target because the sim doesn't account for mobs dying and it's just doing 5 target dummies that don't explode?

[sullen dove]

just like a sort of pi

[sullen dove]

probably part of it but also dont think its generally that good in aoe anyway

like "usable"

[worthy haven]

weird, it's literally below razdunk's big red button lmao, so my assumption was it wasn't accounting for the explosion which should theoretically be good

[sullen dove]

what the hell is razdunks big red button

from motherlode last season??

a screams this season??

[worthy haven]

yep

(this is like 30 trinkets down the list)

[sullen dove]

yea idk i mean it should def be better than that

[olive wraith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1409700786706972732/1415220212038504490/image.png?ex=68c26a08&is=68c11888&hm=7876c2387865801be1aef749104f2e5dabc5e4e5d169545fa9fcb4bc2299d330&

Guys why is Dh so big

[sullen dove]

not reaping hard enough

but also idk they're good

[worthy haven]

which is what's confusing me. The ONLY thing I can think of is it's not set up to trigger sporadic mob deaths

[sullen dove]

i also doubt its applying very much on targets aside from main

or even worse case

if it procs equal amount of times roughly and its random on whatevers hit

would u rather build 5 stacks on 5 mobs or 25 stacks on 1

[worthy haven]

true, but that changes things a lot for m+ where your prio target dies and explodes

[sullen dove]

could be even more splitting its value

and not doing extra dmg on the 1 target

but yea like it should def be better in m+ than bm suggests

cuz ngl bloodmallet is ass

[smoky vale]

meow

[worthy haven]

not saying it would suddenly be the #1 best m+ trinket it's just weird

and hard to figure out how it'd fit over, say, hero track pacemaker or some shit

[radiant plank]

play pacemaker

[sullen dove]

yea i mean prolly pace

[radiant plank]

from experience

screams is ass

[sullen dove]

stats to buff your own damage almost always higher value in aoe

vs like 3-4% m+ overall "maybe"

[worthy haven]

was just an example, but okie, if you have experience with it doing only like 3-4% overall that's good info, ty

[sullen dove]

like vague guess dont think used in a while but ye its good nuff to get the job done

but pace think just more tailor made for m+

[lilac kettle]

this week is the catalyst charge next week is the spark fragment right?

[sullen dove]

fink so

[lilac kettle]

shit, one more week without 2nd 720 weaponm

[sullen dove]

do not make a second weapon...

[lilac kettle]

i do not raid mythic this season

[sullen dove]

surely still like pick a myth item out of vault every week

if you have like excess gildeds i suppose its almost feasible just like a pretty big waste of mats that will eventually be replaced anyway

cuz like myth weapon to 723 is like 30k dps over 2 720's

at least what it looked like when i summed

and idk 710>720 isnt so big to like warrant burning a bunch of gildeds i'd say

rather like upgrade hero track stuff to 710 maybe

[snow edge]

10s are also relatively accessible, so odds are you’ll see a M track weapon in vault

[lilac kettle]

:hopege: for a weapon in next vault

[sullen dove]

also depends on your like "desire to do so" but even if not in a guild first 2 and maybe eventually 3 bosses are relatively puggable and its not really at any risk to you not at least finishing a vault

like if u dont want to even spend the time there in a pug makes sense but idk once ppl like 715-720 should be quite easy

first boss is much harder than 2nd so its pretty safe to like try to pug killing first without locking yourself to anything and if you kill first youre basically guaranteed to kill soulbinder

and just unlocks chance for antenna in vault and stuff which is nice

[cobalt relic]

how good is trinket for ST?

[snow edge]

Also I’d have to imagine a crafted ring / neck with optimal stats + 720 bracers would be close to or better than a 710 -> 720 OH upgrade..

[sullen dove]

yar

[cobalt relic]

gg

[sullen dove]

why still jastor prison https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/g4krfrNLfBRf4UeXiHmsjo

[snow edge]

Just free yourself from the prison

[cobalt relic]

gg

[pseudo nebula]

Would it be unhinged holding spark till next week to craft the second 2h vs just crafting 2 pieces and praying for one in the vault?

[olive wraith]

You got heroic wep rn?

[pseudo nebula]

ye

[olive wraith]

Ideally you don’t want 2 crafted weps

[random hill]

is there new dmg buff today or nah?

for raid

[snow edge]

If you scroll up we just talked about crafting a second 2h

[ornate gust]

How could you sim 5.4m while you are ilvl 712. I barely reaching 5.2m.

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gSjoJME8xLz7fxpNeM5tug

[sullen dove]

idk boots and antenna prolly big

also higher stat value myth stuff like chest n legs

small uppy

[snow edge]

Antenna is like +60k on paper for me, so pretty big outlier

[cyan flint]

Probably a dumb question. But its still highest ilvl wep mainhand? Do the enchants matter aswell?

[thorn steeple]

something's fishy.. i am 697 and i sim 5.7mil

[worn rain]

also kinda cringe

[ornate gust]

That feet is huge

[ornate gust]

I don’t spend mythic crests on hero track items.

[sullen dove]

thats gotta be aoe or somethin

[worn rain]

free crest from quest

[thorn steeple]

oh..didnt see he simed patch

[eager lily]

Post your Sim, so we can Look into it.

[sullen dove]

antenna aside think pace soleah also just not very strong trinkets to begin with

need a screams in there or something

at the least surely arcanocore is better than either of em

[tardy hedge]

how good is araz?

on fwar

[random hill]

do we increase the itlvl of the craft this week?

with crests

[spare steppe]

Eh

[radiant perch]

Hello, so i dont have myth shoulders is this trinket angle orI should take shoulders for tier?
or I should sim 😄

[worn rain]

last time I've simmed it 723 vs 710 sac it was dps loss

dunno about that one chief

[rotund creek]

you should always sim

[random hill]

for m+ trinket for sure

[spare steppe]

If you like m+ take the idol

[radiant perch]

yeah im M+ only fury is my off spec from prot

[twilit harbor]

i think it's gotta be belt. highest simming belt on droptimizer for me rn. gloves can easily come from soulbinder, and trinket is great for st but lame for cleave

[spare steppe]

It’s really good for prot as well, just a lil scary to use

[spare steppe]

Just a heads up but the belts aren’t simming correctly compared to last week

[eager lily]

Trinket is only big for Arms, cause Fury dont Care that much about crit.

[warm umbra]

We dodged nerfs today?

Pog

[twilit harbor]

hmm? i assumed they were suddenly simming higher due to raidbots implementing the DISC nerf early or something

[radiant perch]

isnt that best aoe trinket for fury based on sims?

[fading sky]

Hows

the enchant thingy has it been fixxed

[fading sky]

false

best aoe t rinket

also best ST trinket is antenna

which is also crit

sooo

[snow edge]

Didn't he just say it's the best AoE trinket?

[odd agate]

Although crit usually isn't a great stat for fury, all the best trinkets are crit based. Idol is one of the best trinkets for m+, especially since it's the only 1.5 min on use. Antenna is the best overall trinket. Both are crit.

[viral shore]

is the export from simcraft also broken now? last week it only simmed wrong if you manually selected your character in the droptimizer

[modern ingot]

weapon sims highest, but that helm ios bis... what to choose ?

[covert coyote]

holy new overall PR in a 14 psf for the resil

[fading sky]

not hard

weapon

always weapon

[clear palm]

is so leah even decent trinket for fury?

[radiant perch]

For aoe you sim 5t 1,5m?

[thorn steeple]

does this mean i need to lower my haste?

[olive wraith]

No

Just keep simming

[warm umbra]

Why do top warriors still run 701 belt when hero/myth belts sim so much higher?

[uneven path]

Aren't they running delv belt ?

[warm umbra]

Yes

It sim much much lower

[uneven path]

idk for me delv is simming much higher then the 710 M belt from raid.

[lilac kettle]

for me its 0.1% lower than the hast mastery 710 raid waist

[warm umbra]

Hmmm

[uneven path]

Do you have correct disk selected ?

[warm umbra]

Crit chain

[silver iris]

The longer the fight, the better delv belt

[lilac kettle]

i sim all of them. mastery sims the highest

for me at least

[warm umbra]

710 belt is 62k upgrade from 701 crit chain

What the helly

5 min patchwerk

[uneven path]

[warm umbra]

Could i be getting baited

[viral shore]

export from simcraft or using the site?

[heavy dock]

its an upgrade for me too

delve belt was never that good for me

[warm umbra]

Using site

[viral shore]

site is always broken. export from simcraft to get the effects of the beld calculated

[olive wraith]

Check the uptime on the sim

I think earlier people were saying it didn’t proc on the sim

[modern ingot]

Weird, delve belt is giga good for me, only better is fully upgraded myth belt with bis stats, and by a little.

[viral shore]

if you just use raidbots and select your character there by hand it is not calculating the effect correctly. you need to export from simcraft in game to get the actual calculation

at least that was the case last week

[warm umbra]

I clicked from raiderio and updated it for my vault item

That’s about it

[viral shore]

yeah probalby broken that way. try simming it from simcraft

they should really add a disclaimer on raidbots for the belt

[warm umbra]

Alright

[heavy dock]

even with simcraft.. a 710 belt with socket is simming over for me as well

[warm umbra]

I suck at using sim tools

[heavy dock]

can i stop getting this fucking priory trinket man..

[viral shore]

by how much %? for me 710 is basically a sidegrade

[heavy dock]

2nd week in a row 💀

[warm umbra]

If anyone would do me a solid and sim Bonethugs-Kazzak Eu and look at the belt sims i would love u forever

I cant even find uptime

On belt

[heavy dock]

around 0.4%

[viral shore]

we cant sim it correctly because you have to export it ingame from simcraft to get the belt value correctly

[warm umbra]

Ah right

[heavy dock]

im deadass gonna take ring i guess

[warm umbra]

Id take ring too

Its not that bad

U can compensate the low mastery with cloak gem right?

Or u already running mastery on it

[chrome plover]

well well well

[heavy dock]

problem is i have that ring in hero

so its like.. barely anything

[bitter palm]

powerful boots

powerful idol

[heavy dock]

momas mega medalion

pff what a name

[dry talon]

How much dps boots from hunters would add?

[bitter palm]

a lot

[steel shard]

so stupid there are other boots in the game

[dry talon]

So its worth it to farm atleast champion lvl ones?

[steel shard]

Such a stupid item

yes champ is better than mythic 723

[scenic pecan]

[bitter palm]

very low impact slot and powerful effect

unlucky

[heavy dock]

about 1% on single target

or was arund 1.4%

last time i simmed it

[warm umbra]

There is no value in upgrading boots right

Its flat 40% in her

And 50 in myth

[heavy dock]

yea

[chrome plover]

it's boots for sure

idol is good but not that much better than a hero one

whilst boots are way better than my champ ones

[warm umbra]

Giga vault

[chrome plover]

same value as any other boots

[spring jacinth]

U guys think Arms is gonna be back on the table this patch? i got myth pacemaker in vault and not sure if to take it or not

[heavy dock]

did anything change

well

i mean its good for aoe

[chrome plover]

arms does really good damage in keys already

and pacemaker is good for fury in keys too

[spring jacinth]

sims say i should take either myth belt or myth helm , that's why i'm asking

[chrome plover]

if u mainly care about keys take pacemaker

if u are progging raid take an item for that

[heavy dock]

ok now.. do i take ecodome ring for like 0.5% upgrade in ST and 0.4% in aoe or just take priory trinket which is simming like 1.4% higher in aoe and like 0.5% in ST

[spring jacinth]

I see, tyvm for answering

[chrome plover]

i would take ring and just use a hero stone idol as an on use in keys

[heavy dock]

i hate idol

[chilly plume]

So I'm tryin to figure out how to optimize on Forgeweaver which may be goofy bcuz we haven't killed it yet but im sitting here looking at #1 fury parse and i feel like I'm doing the right thing but not hitting as hard but we're same ilvl/stats

[hollow leaf]

👍

[spring jacinth]

Maw!! pog

[hollow leaf]

!!

[sullen dove]

why is dat shit 710

[heavy dock]

cuz it drops at 710

[sullen dove]

its not very rare?

[heavy dock]

its bonus loot i think?

[sullen dove]

no it doesnt

[chilly plume]

myth track?

[sullen dove]

it'd be like 714 no

[hollow leaf]

hero

[sullen dove]

5th boss

[chilly plume]

tru

[heavy dock]

7th boss bruh

[chilly plume]

but hero drops at 701

wack

[hollow leaf]

besides I wouldn't care if it was at myth

[sullen dove]

701 + 13 is 714

[hollow leaf]

hero drops at 710

maw at least

[sullen dove]

ok someone is trolling

boots are not very rare

otherwise mine would not be 704 rn

[chilly plume]

Maw is very rare boots are not

[heavy dock]

i got maw in lfr on my dk

the effect is funny

[hollow leaf]

only maw drops at max ilvl

because it's a very rare from last 2

[sullen dove]

any very rare ever i think drops at max ilvl now

regardless of what boss it drops from

or like 6/x track at least

imagine champ item from normal is 6/8 champ i think

what it was for nerubar palace at least

dont recall item ilvls in normal undermine

[hollow leaf]

regardless maw is 710 because it's hero track

which is irrelevant because I wouldn't want it regardless of ilvl

[coarse kelp]

Anyone got pro tips for the intermission on last boss in Eco-dome? I can never seem to get all three with how god damn slow I am

[hollow leaf]

you have a lot of time, the only one you "have" to get immediately is the one that's in his "frontal" effect

if they're not gonna get hit by it you can leave them for later

which is preferrable since you're extending the buff

[coarse kelp]

So they only vanish if theyäre hit by the frontal?

[brittle crow]

that is a WOMAN

[hollow leaf]

yeah

[coarse kelp]

so the problem is that I'm dumb and didnt understand the mechanic

thanks!

[hollow leaf]

it's fine nobody understands it in my 17s either

[frosty scroll]

belt nerfs enough to warrant my 723 belt now w

[hollow leaf]

w

[heavy dock]

when are the nerfs coming

[hollow leaf]

.5

[frosty scroll]

11.2.5

[heavy dock]

was asking for a date more but sure

so still a bit of time

are you guys simming 8 or 5 targets for aoe

[coarse kelp]

I do 8T/5Min, no idea if that's good though

[heavy dock]

ok so this is single target vs aoe

do i actually take the priory trink

like i prob dont mind the 2 min that much

ill take it over hero idol lol

also i already have a 710 eco dome ring

[olive wraith]

5min is a bit long

[unreal onyx]

Hell nah

At that point might aswell take a socket

[heavy dock]

why nto

is it that bad

[chilly plume]

doesnt line up with cd's,s feels bad to play

[heavy dock]

cant feel worse than idol xd

[unreal onyx]

2min cd trink on a 1:30 cd class is absolute ass to play

[tender forge]

I'm getting soul breaker simming higher than scarbrood on hero track is anyone else getting this?

[heavy dock]

well

i took it

gonna test it later

[unreal onyx]

Ouch

Your helm or wrists looked in dire need of a socket

[serene perch]

Hello all Reap enjoyers. Quick question, what trinket combo are you using for M+ and for raid?

[unreal onyx]

I had 2 necks abs hc dimensius trink in my last vault but I took socket

[quiet breach]

any addons I can use to change my cursor? I now use mouse over kick macro and I need a more visible cursor so I can aim my kicks better

[heavy dock]

im sure it will be fine lol

i want some ilvl too

i dont play this game that seriously

can you even put socket on crafted item?

[unreal onyx]

Whatever sims best or what you have, I use ticking sac and arcanocore in ST and arcanocore and sacbrood in m+ bc I dont have anything else

[quiet breach]

yes

[unreal onyx]

Yessir

Prayge for soulbinder neck in vault today

[heavy dock]

hold on

so like

isnt that cheating kinda

does the socket remain through seasons?

or recrafts rather

[oblique trail]

It doesn't

When you recraft it with a new season spark, the socket disappears

Since otherwise it'd just favour people who played the previous season and allow them an advantage, even if it's somewhat small

[unreal onyx]

Real, it also gives you that warning when you do recraft

Every season one bad vault comes in clutch for the wrist socket

[tardy hedge]

did u guyz notice since this restart fwarr is everywher in keys 😄

[iron portal]

Not everywhere

But definitely improvement

[tardy hedge]

watch it how they gonna nerf him soon

[iron portal]

So you come here to just say that?

[tardy hedge]

yes

[remote bobcat]

go back to the druid den

[iron portal]

Damn meta chasers

[remote bobcat]

We get hotfixed once, we are strong once, people immediately complain

Ele sham and warlock stay winning hotfix after hotfix, people complain, they dont get changed

[tardy hedge]

most of season is fwarr decent

[remote bobcat]

istg we're getting nerfed next hotfix

[remote bobcat]

tell me u dont know without telling me u dont know

[tardy hedge]

how was my ragebait

[remote bobcat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/284226322585354241/1413178488713642104/GIF_20250904_160623_708.gif

me in my very shitty dawn13 with a wipe

like yea fury is okay

we dont need a nerf

[tardy hedge]

that frost dk is meta slave

if he was og frost he would eat u

[remote bobcat]

in a dawn13 yea but not if it was dawn18

more mob hp = fury beats everyone

[tardy hedge]

well at 13s adds die too fast

[cobalt relic]

all gg

@remote bobcat gg?

[remote bobcat]

gg in regards of what

huh ?

[tardy lark]

i use CursorMod and CursorTrail

[olive abyss]

Why does heroic 710 antenna sim lower for me over 710 Sacbrood / Idol? isnt it supposed to be ultra bis or am i missing something?

[earnest canyon]

depends on your other stats

[plain bramble]

So, if I have a Myth track weapon in my main hand, do I still want to craft a weapon for my offhand?

I've simmed it, and it seems to want me to do so, but won't I lose some embellishment value by having it in off-hand?

[wind kestrel]

is belt worth replacing for hero track belt now ?

[plain bramble]

11.2.5, so still a little while off.

At least, thats when they're nerfing the belt.

[unreal onyx]

skyreaver curse or bis neck?

[wind kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/love-it-yes-gif-26957468

[unreal onyx]

I think I have to take skyreaver curse

[vapid spade]

i would say weapon is the bigger dps upgrade since its mythic and weapon dmg is important

[rotund spindle]

Guys, why does a myth belt instead of the disc belt sim this much over a myth chest upgrade??

[unreal onyx]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/i8QwjFtseRUvaXN1nVQARb

pure ST they are almost equal

[silver iris]

Hey, what miss chance need set with sim antenna?

[vapid spade]

well then gg choos what you like more (or have the chance to get easyer - i guess myth weapon is harder to get then the bis neck maybe so still take the weapon 🤷‍♂️ )

[vapid spade]

sim it like you faild it 10% of the time (at least thats what i do)

cause of movement situations

maybe it's more or less idk exactly but it's not 0%

[sudden tusk]

whats your belt set to

[tranquil nimbus]

is there a way i can include the belt nerf in the sim?

already have cantrip boots and myth weapon

[rotund spindle]

Charged bolts

[sudden tusk]

critical chain is better for us

is prob why

bots got nerfed significatly

[rotund spindle]

today?

[sudden tusk]

no a while back

charged bolts has been bad since the season start

the delve powers will get nerfed soon enough though

[flat river]

Lets gooo

I got mythic head

[rotund spindle]

yep, now the chest is better in the sim, thanks

it has avoidance anyway so i will take the chest piece for now

[sonic coyote]

Hm

[polar narwhal]

ring or legs

[sonic coyote]

ringg got avoid on it

the radiant

[earnest canyon]

So did I... From ur mom lol (sorry)

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/steven-gif-3086595942186270028

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/zombielandsaga-sakura-minamoto-xd-gif-627758404327754450

[fossil glade]

I dont have access to sim atm, but roughly how big of an upgrade is going from 720 crafted mh/704oh to 723mh/720 crafted oh?

Does our OH dmg actually matter that much compared to for example a heroic>myth track trinket upgrade?