#fury
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oh right, unhinged! so it actually does something
na no logic, we just made it up
i almost bought that ngl
Mastery > Crit and +RB crit damage isn't as good as it sounds
- Raging Blow doesn't actually crit all that often, since we don't stack crits and it doesn't have any kind of Bloodcraze or Ashen Juggernuat type mechanic
- It only buffs the extra damage done by RB's crit, not the total damage, so it's actually half as much as you think it should be
oh i had no idea about that second thing
"critical strikes deal 10% increased damage" means if your attack deals 100 damage and crits (normally * 2 = 200 damage), it actually does 100 * 2 * 1.1 = 220 damage right?
the difference between all of those options for me on pure ST is about like 0.1%
wrong it actually does 100 + (100 * 1.1) = 210
it should def. say "critical strike damage" instead of "critical strikes deal x% increased damage"
because it's only increasing the extra damage done by the crit, not the total damage of the attack
I mean people still wouldn't know the difference so it's kind of moot lol
Blizzard actually does use total crit damage increases in some places, but its very inconsistent
does any1 have issues logging dungeons, something weird happens and it like cuts half the dungeon off for me a lot of the time
and frankly doesn't really matter to the layperson anyway; even if the numbers are different, the end result is still the same - you got a crit and it did more dam than before
the aoe build drops all the way to dropping focus in chaos
focus in chaos is so broken
its like 3-4% st by itself
at least in DF
when people tried dropping it
beast of a point
FiC is a fat point
but we're still dropping it in M+/Raid cleave
Adding FiC back in is a very small single target gain at the cost of a slightly-less-small-but-still-small aoe loss
You can take it if you want for either the slightly higher single target and/or the feelsgood aspect of it
Not gonna make a big difference either way
IIRC we're talking about a difference of like 0.1-0.2% single target, ~0.5% aoe
other way around, the MT loss would be slightly bigger
Yeah that's what I meant
I think I just phrased it badly
ST loss very small
AOE loss larger but still small
oh i forgot
now you know why I edit everything at least three times
is mountain thane the popular choice for soul huntards?
our 60 something percent auto attack buff got zeroes out essentially
thane is no longer the popular choice for anything
by the time TWW came around
It's what I'm playing yeah, slayer is probably better on paper but they're probably similar in practice
thane slightly tankier and more forgiving with positioning (and target swapping to some extent)
Forgeweaver is still like 60/40 and soul hunters is like 80/20 slayer vs thane
So thane isn't the majority but still very viable
anyone who has raided had terrible ping in raid
literally 100 ping and spikes where i freeze (its not my side)
Which is slightly sad. I like stomping sometimes
then play it
was the renown bug hotfixed yet?
the weapon enchant doubling?
ye
they fixed the tooltip of the buff to show that it affects DK runes but the double bug persists
whoa
Yeah I personally didn’t drop it because it’s irrelevant mostly either way and I’m lazy, but dropping it is only noticeable without a sham imo
Even then it’s minimal
happens to me sometimes, i just become invisible and am just some swords
wtf thats a sick tmog
aberrus
the guy left i didnt inspect him
think it's related to the D4 flying demon thing mount
yes
Aberrus or pvp arsenal
damn it is
Looks like sinsedge covenant effect
that sword has a way cooler model than i remember
i fucking hate priory
From whatever revendreth covenant was
i hope this dungeon disappears forever
its my warrior mog
the amount of random shit that healers and ranged die to in priory is insane
every key ive been in its a shaman a hunter or a mage or a druid constantly dying to getting shot or impale or running into caltrops or divine toll or some shit
man execute procs soooo much getting chachings up the yinyang
Ye it’s one of those xmogs where the normal fits more things than the mythic haha
Nothing worse then seeing an xmog you want and it’s an old LFR one
Showing the location of all LFR queue NPC in WoW from Cata to BFA. Also explaining what you can obtain and why you'd want to run it. Also explaining which queues lead to which bosses as that can be rather confusing.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:24 - Cataclysm Raidfinder NPC, Dragon Soul
1:09 - Mists of Pandaria Raidfinder NPC
1:54 - Warlords of D...
they fixed the enchant values just about 10m ago
If only storm of steel was good
Hello everybody, new player here. where can I find proper warrior guides/builds? fury for now
Wowhead
wdym mean by "proper"?
Why mad 
Mean whatevers good for PvE :D
Will do
you have never heard of wowhead but managed to join the warrior discord? 🙂
I have heard of wowhead, Ive been told to ask here first to make sure I follow good guides ^^
oh fair enough!
i went to wowhead and it told me to use thane on soulhunters thats why i asked earlier
Thanks everybody ^^ will check them out
Thane is fine on hunters afaik
it doesnt matter now after the hotfix
Heroic?
i had someone buy the normal ones for 300k i wasnt sure if that guy was throwing away his money or not last week now this time i get the heroic ones and i get instawhispered 250k
Tell him 500 or you walk
LOL
Over him while wearing the boots
i just told him sorry i need em, but im simming the difference just to check
didnt tell him the simming part
no but i dont sell these to him then i cant sell them ever again cuz i wont be able to roll need lol
but if i dont*
this is some degen shit i dont understand
You want gold or power
yeah i miss personal loot
when i started playing again i only rolled need on things i actually needed
and was getting like no loot at all, so i started looking and literally everybody rolls need on everything
no
some guy paid me 200k for the dimmy ring
on normal
500k or more
He sounds like a dummy not a dimmy
Got a question. Can't wrap my head around why it is dps optimal to use Avatar and Recklessness simultaneously while running Berserker's Torment rather than staggering them by 8 seconds to maximize buff uptime
I'd never pay 200k for loot, because I don't have 200k.
Because they extend each others duration
They don't overwrite
ohh
he probably identify himself as a sword
Appreciate the answer
Me too, I always wondered that but didnt question it lol
big dam or little dam?
unclear
the logs ive seen have him both 99 parsing and green parsing
but their black arrow does like 90% of their dmg
sry 50%
the bar just looked long

depleted a 15 flood by 4 seconds because we had a wipe on big momma :(
was it a BL big momma ?
yeah
it's good for pugs, not good for coordinated groups
should be an option or somethin
Do I hold avatar for reck or reck for avatar or just send them as they come up? In m+
just send them
idk about that
whole trash pack
a boss
mini boss
and last boss
thats tight as hell ngl
you pull the trash onto the boss
yeah
but yeah i dont think it was timable
Ya it was close. I would have been sad about the abandon though
I dont think that was timeable bud
3 minutes per boss
leaves you with 1.5 minutes for the miniboss
unless you have giga burst and kill it before the 2nd heal
not timing that
I got H dima trinket in vault... should I pick it up over mythic track tier? I dont see ppl using it but I'd hate to pass it up
Rule of thumb is to full send cooldowns as they come up. The exceptions are if you won't get the full duration then hold (eg pack will die in 15 seconds, hold Avatar) or if you have a lust window coming up and the group needs to take advatage of that window.
This becomes more true the higher the key. Mobs will live longer and longer and that last 15% will end up being hundreds of millions of HP
Thanks ill practice more.. its been a while that I played fury…last time in nazjatar 😄
nah
ty
wait you are that silence
7min for 2 full bosses + trash
Isnt there a way to upgrade the cloack again?
bro
look at that pala tank
aint that insane
like legit
nah i mean i know you from league lmao
ah ye
last time i saw you playing wow was S1 from df
maybe he thought the huge purple death bubble was a buff
Guys sorry, why spam BT and Execute when bladestorm off cooldown. I know Execute reduces BS but why BT and not RB (new slayer m+ build)
ah ye
I came back this szn
idk why people do that....easier to say "sorry guys I fucked up"
yea legit
also your dps and that dk is insane for overall.....but i dont do keys anywhere near a 17 so maybe that is just normal
If you don’t have bs available, bt is the only thing to reliably apply overwhelmed
ty brother
I was try harding that 1
how is havoc in keys they any good?
among the best
One of the reasons vdh isn’t as common this season
aw ok maybe the 711 dh i just beat at 703 was having a bad day 
the reap is too stronk
How do I convince my GM that I should grab myth track Idol instead of Antenna because Antenna drops from raid but I can only get myth track Idol through vault?
They’re op strong bc of funnel not necessarily fat overall
Tbf idol is useful for like 2 fights in raid
who else hasnt seen a antenna drop on their warrior
I haven’t seen a screams yet
I haven’t. But I don’t raid
Mythic sac or mythic tier piece from vault? I would think sac
you're probably more likely to see the tier or something catalyzable again
Does it count if I’ve lost the roll for one 4 times?
That's my general thought process too. Thanks
nah
Rip
Whats the play for M+? is it still either thane or slayer? or with the changes do we need to run slayer now
We run Mountain Slayer now 🙌🏼😎
I got screams and m track tier. But I dont see ppl use screams. I still want to pick it up but not sure
what does "need" even mean in this case
for a toon that doesnt do mythic raid (alt) would you guys take this wep over tier chest/leg?
currently all hero tier
Slayer is pretty consistently better. That said, you can still run thane and do decent dmg.
Much better boss dmg from slayer too
I'd take m track weap
is it ever worth going thane or is it fury all day
Thane is fine if you enjoy it
slayer is much more fun
It just does a bit less st (in keys)
but if thane is better in any situation I can run it
Then play slayer. No worries
Weird I always thought it was clunky. If you haven't played slayer I have a feeling you'll enjoy it
slayer is so fun contantly spinning
Thane is good for like massive packs and if you get good rng. Slayer better in pretty much every other scenario
yeah ran sims, it is better even though "wrong" stats
If you largely enjoy thane though and aren’t running top 1% keys then just play what you think is fun
It’s funny cause you could spin almost as much pre bug fix
Slayer M+ we still prio ex procs im assuming?
It is a higher prio button yes
dope
dont you need decent rng to beat slayer?
slayer aoe seems really good
Not in massive pulls (ie first pull gambit) I mean you still need procs but you don’t need like god rng. That said, by the end of the dungeon slayer should overtake simply cause of how good boss and smaller pull dmg is
Yep, weapon
makes sense ty
🫡
wep also only cost 15 gilded to max :3
Thane also has the benefit of having more “range” so if trash isn’t stacked pretty tight you might be missing out on damage that thane could potentially get
Oh for sure. Just mentioning some of the benefit of thane
My things is.. most classes can pump hard on adds. I value boss damage so much. So slayer is a no brainer for me
I hope slayer remains good, going back to thane might be depressing
Thane is also beefier right? Isn’t there a talent that when you TB or TC (I think) things you get like 8% damage reduction
I love thane. I actually just really like that we have options rn
thane def more tanky and higher self heals too with bloodthirst prio and resets
it all comes down to what content you're doing. if you're doing weekly keys do whatever is fun. if you're pushing you'll probably have to swap to slayer at some point for prio damage
Slayer can opt into invigorating fury though
yeah slayer feels pretty great, 12mil+ sustatined on dummies
What do you drop for it? That’s true though. Although IF is kinda meh compared to flat DR. Tbh though if you juggle spell reflect and impending victory properly you really shouldn’t be at risk of dying much as fury period
Swap out focus in chaos
Ah I see
even with the rb bonanza that Slayer currently is it stills feel a lot more engaging to me than Thane ever has. The tier set rng doesn't help that feeling for Thane either.
Yea doubt that’s hardly a dps loss at all
drop Focus anyway
swap Imp BT/FM for Invig
But ya fury in general is super beefy. Invigorating fury makes it a better oh shit button
yeah the general tankiness of fury feels great imo
I'm never worried as fury
until you're stuck in bfe for whatever reason and can't hit anything, then you feel squish
always feel very safe
I don't find Invig to be all that useful personally, 10% on demand heal isn't that impactful and +3s of ER is nice but I've rarely ever really felt in the position of base ER not being long enough
chances are if I need 11s of CD instead of 8, I'm SoL anyway
In AOE are we basically never hitting BT now?
but Imp BT doesn't add much either, so it's not a bad swap
Bladestorm does it for you
Only if you don’t have bs available on a fresh pull
Yea i guess BT is only doing like 4% of my dmg in dungeons so losing 10% of that isn't horrible
but if I know I can live then more dmg good dmg right?
Like Archi said. The difference between based ER and extra talent ER is pretty small
It might just be me but I don’t trust out healers often
anyone else run into this bug with the resilient keystone achievments?
the game gave me resil 16 achievment last night before reset after timing the 2nd to last 16 i needed but it gave me the achievment anyways and now i have resillient 16s even though i have 1 15 to time on 16 still
Grats
Free 16 resi
Because u had 16 priory timed last season and it counts towards this season..
And yet my heart still yearns for IP
Gross
pls god no
With the amount of rage we generate and even waste, I dont see why not 
would not work very well w/ fury
Antenna Heroic or Ara-kara Sacbrood Mythic guys?
Prot already has apm issues every 2 patches
Brew answered you
Sac
Sim yourself
But sac
thank god BM got buffed, those poor things
you are trying to not get us nerfed i see
GOod job

Joking ofc. I dont even invite BM into keys anymore cause half of them cant press buttons properly
What is the best way to pull dungeons around fury warrior? Should we be chain pulling as much as possible? Or have clearly defined pulls so I could get fresh bladestorm down on new trash?
I dont think anyone pulls around fury
^
We have very short cds
I think we're fine either way. constant uptime is good ofc
I don’t think any tanks pull around anyone
In higher keys you can put 2 Bladestorms into pack anyway
No matter if you got it in opener or later
True, I was asking because my tank was trying to help maximize my damage too considering soft capped damage
You would do big pulls around classes like shaman or Hunter or DK
Fury just keeps going
but I am not aware of any of those pulls in current meta
If anyone would have a strat to be pulling 5-8t groups it’d be bansherz/noxivs group
Thank you for the input everyone
cursed stone idol right before bladestorm?
can I macro it with reck/avatar? or no because of the cast time
I macro idol with avatar, but just have to press the same button twice
Thanks for secret hotfix. Happy to do my role in m+
I wouldn’t, no
That sounds insane
is it bad for me to have something like this btw?
#showtooltip Recklessness
/use Tempered Potion
/use Blood Fury
/use Avatar
/use Recklessness
/use 14
I mean that would be fine
For cursed idol yes it’s bad
But not for that trinket
For a regular on use trinket, sure
because of wasted buff time?
It’s a cast
Reck and Ava are off gcd, simple macro like this would work
/cast Avatar
/cast Recklessness
/use Cursed Stone Idol
But you have to have free gcd . otherwise you would have to tap it twice to use trinket. Bit awkward for me
I rather have separate bind for trinket
And reck
2️⃣
isnt it reck and then avatar?
Is this current slayer situation the most fun the spec has ever been. Many people are saying yes
yea it is , but to make my point it really doesnt matter
Sims are telling me Head but that feels wrong
roger that
ty for confirming
Yep
finally got a 15 gambit
im like "ill run it but its prob the trinket"
Wait that is Mythic track right
no hero
It isn’t
I just noticed lmao
both were 1/6 hero
Doesn’t matter
well i took trinket
Idol
Easy idol
sorry 3/6
That’s what my gut is telling me too. But also even hero antenna put me side eyed.
you right
You can farm Antena,you cant farm mythic idol
some other odd piece was 1/6
If you can kill 2 mythic bosses in raid
It’s gonna be better in the long run
You eased my mind ty. Easy idol
You can get 2 chances per week on antena
(decent ilvl i mean)
but tbh even champ would be fine
so 3 tries , espeically in guild you will get it eventually
Also depends which content you prefer
But i would take it cause i can use it in raid too
And i run m+
are people pugging first 2 mythic bosses yet?
I came back to retail recently late S2, I mainly pug lol. I enjoy raid and M+ but it’s not like I’m progging mythic or anything and I enjoy dungeons more overall.
And if you kill soulbinder you get Loom loot in vault
The first boss is probably the hardest first boss in a while
is mythic sacbrood or hero antennae better for M+ now with the slayer bug fix? when I sim it they both end up being a 2.5% upgrade
You guys run thane on any of the raid fights?
do you now
Dont you have to have Loom killed at least once
Cause thats how it is supposed to work
As in, per wings?
you are eligible for any loot that is officially before the latest boss in the raid you killed
and loomithar is officially the 2nd boss
All right makes sense
like if u killed plexus and dimensius youd be eligible for any loot in the raid from vault
there was a small period where people were purposely not killing specific bosses to keep the perfect vault
Gains
and that shit was cringe
Prob same advice as to guy above: you can get antena from mythic/heroic and even normal
But you wont get mythic track ara trinket anytime soon
if it was between two mythic trinkets I would take Antena though
any wa to track slughtering strikes
We got a catalyst charge this week didn't we?
Prob there is some in wago but I dont think it is necessary , you generally run out of enrage or RBs before you reach full stack anyway
If you are NA, yes
Yep thx
i am not sure my rotation is that well in mythic+
my best is about 8 mil in eco dome (dount countFG with insane pulls)
i mean feels like WW rampage x2-x4 RB, iteration
Tracking slaughtering isn't gonna fix anything about that tho. The times you ramp is dictated by your enrage timer moreso than your stacks so it's treated more just as a passive amplifier to when you'd already be rampaging
if we played onslaught it would be easier to get to 5 stacks but we wont play it this expac lol
i mean i still dont understand what deals the most dmg
https://prnt.sc/bUhnxVSZAW1X i was reading above about focus in chaos but i lost track of the discussion, is it bad not having that ? im using this in m+
On wowhead
I never thought that the lizard would cause so many questions for fury
nnah it doesnt worth it
You can choose to either run what you have or take one point out of critical thinking and put it in focus. I believe both ways are just about equal. However if you aren't running Odyns then I'd drop those Roar capstones, no real need otherwise
Or keep roar capstones. Other stat nodes are comparable afaik
Hmm how hard is astral antenna to use? I got it in gv, but read it may sim higher than actual use
I would never think so many people would come here like we are meta
Literally orbs fly to you
Trying to decide between that and pacemaker
Not much diffulty
it's just extremely FUN
and sadly it's funnier than arms.. 🙁 colossus
for me it's fun
if i want numberse and push i go prot
Which is fine, I dont judge
Well in this case Antena should be clear winner
i think i used bloodthirtst like 3 times in last key lol
and dragon roar
its best aoe trinket and second best ST trinket on mythic track
https://prnt.sc/j5jR7WJEh8a8 maybe this?
took kit from critcake, prob better
Brother just look at wowhead instead of sending screenshots
what's the software to disabled thered enraged and all other aura?
i dont like the wowhead ones
That's all you're gonna find here and from any streamer so good luck then
Thanks, I saw that, just wanted to make sure it matches up irl 🙂
Braintrust the Vault of Disappoinment has a mild inquisition. Should I take a mythic Sol'Leah's or a mythic tier chest?
This looks like it’s from wowhead lmao
lol yea
The only difference between yours and wowheads is you move improved bt to fresh meat
Which is weird but whatever
Big momma best boss
Mystic touch best buff
If only i had a feral instead of mage
extra 3% dmg or whatever
that's ok though. What a run
now i have ara kara 16 ruh roh
Was just nerfed at least
Yea tbh I think it'll be super easy now that I won't melt from poisons
Monk tank feral instead and make a shadow priest PI you
yea then I will play like complete trash cause of the pressure to perform lmao
nvm mb i had old ones, didnt check this week they changed it
You mean Aug 
i was flying under the radar big time here
Is it normal for Antenna to sim lower than other trinkets on Single Target?
Double check the catch %
And I assume you mean equal ilvl
do we press rb while rage capped now?
Still better to rampage if above 115rage because of CDR
It doesn't sim worse than other trinket - it does comparing to your other options in vault since you can pick only one.
only for brutal finish
and if u are still enraged, if it falls off you ramp
I guess I'm just surprised that it sims so much lower than a Mythic helmet, with the same ilvl increase over my current options.
#1273899855852339200 or any of the guides in #dps-faq
you just have good trinkets already
Fair.
I still took it for AoE, since I do more high-level M+ than I do raiding. Only doing Heroic on this guy currently.
Hoa trinket?
CSI is practically bis for M+ for sure
excuse me, that's IdPM, tyvm
Do you macro it in with CDs or do it separate
you know, that's just my warrior brain. words hard, reading scary
I think you have it separate so you use it mid-charge or just before you press CDs so you don't waste 1 sec of CD's rubbing the idol to get the genie out
Do you execute much in AOE using slayer. I have been when the WA dings but wondering if i should just keep going with RB.
Yah thats what I was thinking, just got it for the first time this season in vault.
Yes you still exe
do i just wait and see if they give me forgeweaver 2h tn?
that antenna goes hard
I'd take antenna, it's legit bigger than the 720>723 wep, and also everyone wants it
We aren't really competin for 2hs in raid
First 2H in raid drops on the 4th boss, not sure my guild is able to kill that before the .5 patch 
4th boss got nerfed pretty good
Stop giving me hope 
Honestly loom is prob harder now lol
Just get a two hander from vault like me 
they gave our bdk the 2h last week
Wut
😭
That's just poor usage of loot lol
Like if you guys are a prog guild they're inting and he's inting your group as a whole
Stupid
Hes probably the only DK they have and want to keep him for the grips
on one hand its my first mythic line item of the season .... on the other hand its a boots
I mean
He can craft his fuckin wep
Like he's a DK tank, he doesn't need 2 720 embellish pieces for success
Is it normal that everyone says CSI is the BiS for M+ and my sims keep taking Sac unless I sim for 10 targets?
I am so torn. Myth tier helm or huge heroic ring upgrade...
Or Craft a good one
but that hast mastery ring is hard to find. Yeah could craft
big number right there though
And isn't BiS helm the BoE anyway?
Oof IDK what i would choose
has our build changed at all since the hotfix?
I would absolutely not take a heroic item over a myth 1
I would also go for ring
even if BiS is the helm BOE?
An expensive ass helm
considering stat diminishings, if you craft ring you can manipulate it with desirable stat compositions
Oh i thought you upgrade a hero ring to myth, yeah take myth item
yeah theres BiS and Realistic BiS
BIS is relative to minor gem/enchant/offpiece swaps
There are about 5-6 item setups that end within like .2% of eachother
That's true. I will probably pick helm but hard choice
Picking a heroic item you are guaranteed to replace via even just crafts > an immediate myth track BIS/border BIS item
Should not even be a thought
any reason why quicksim always does like 28% raging blow while most top ranks are at 20-23%? that's roughly what I'm getting, too
The robot is perfect and we are human
yeah but 5%? that's a lot
Short term bigger number thinking can get me sometimes
Focus on the endgame, it's like week 6
How do we feel about screams trinket?
diff is not even that big tho
Big true, brother
Consider that the robot is the best case for RB resets etc w 100% uptime
holy moly 
Reap often times will be a subset of rb
13 priory unforch didnt time
Would yall go for a socket or an off-spec piece?
Socket lol
got it
socket but I also would sit on the tokens for potential spark shenanigans
we did not @restive peak
He chose to hold
because he followed terrible wowhead DK advice
that said to hold
LMAO
I had 3 chests and a belt today, luckily I did need chest but man we were close to a disaster vault
it was very annoying to deal with
It's a good thing I'm never on a loot council
I'd punish that stupidity by blatantly saying why they're not getting it and saying go craft rn
no
WELCOME TO THE CREW JACKIE LETS GO
perhaps do not give him weapon and tell him to get bent

^
@dusky moon hi :3

Someday I'll get an exciting trinket or myth track weapon from vault.
how much more beneficial is changing to my warrior on Araz prog to send me to pillars with adds to reap the fuck outta the pillar?
taling into account i'm a warlock atm
4p bug fix worth the switch basically - we got 2 locks and no dps warrs
when you guys sim antenna how much miss chance do you set it to?
Gave the hardmode a shot with pugs... Made it 5 bosses and they threw up a discord link after we dropped the 5th guy with the intent to comm for boss 6. I never got to join the discord...
Tank pulled next pack, we all go forward. and then healer stands still; think he was trying to join the discord
murloc blue circle 110%(I rallied) to 0%
rip
Omggggg hahahahah
that is really rough
oof
tbf, who puts up a discord link; and then continues before everyone hops in
Pugging psychopaths
yeah thats a knob move
I was typing the link in, heard audio and went Oh I'll join after the pull
This look reasonable for an ara kara 13?
i think anything above 8 in any dungeon is solid if ur pugging
healer heard it and came forward to, just think he alt tabbed out cause he was feeling safe
Also, how tf are people hitting 10M and higher?
if its streets or dawn its exceptional
they just better
I wish I enjoyed fury warrior more
man, hate to think I am leaving 25% on the table...
pull count and speed matter
yeah thats another thing
cd's lining up well
lusting the right stuff
pulling the right stuff
and bosses can be hiccups in dmg if you just sit on bosses forever
not no mention pulling packs onto bosses is insane for overalls
this might have been a factor for sure....felt like we were on second boss all day
if you arent doing that ur overall is gonna be WAY lower
i mean i did like 8m in a 10 gambit cause our shaman did like 3m overall
peaked like 25m or something first pull and kept it going for chains but we just were slow after
hi
it happens, overalls are cool but timing is cooler
is the jastor diamond sim bait?
in a sense, yes
its prone to bugging in game
so unless if you want to unequip and reequip it every time you pull a boss, just replace it
ty i was gonna replace cause its a .1 difference anyways but i was wondering why sims still favor it
is there a mastery/haste soft cap for fury?
yeah but its not something you need to worry about, just sim ur gear and you'll be fine
gotchya
as an example, most people I know of stop getting haste around 30-35%, im up at 40% because thats just what sims highest for me
should u use execute on cd?
yah, im at 45% haste and 57% mastery and thinking theyre overcooked
on wowhead in rotations it mentions sudden death procs and a weak aura to get for it
For when to press execute
While playing slayer
theres a weakaura in https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1237307732705415228 for when to press it
you should execute with 2 stacks of sudden death or marked for execution, sd falling off or ashen jugg falling
hi xan
hi gio
Thane it replaces slam when target is under 35%
is there pash for showing belly this week
aha okay thx guys 😄
i pray you are not talenting massacre
oltho that feels like pretty much all of the time tbh xD
I haven’t played thane since like beginning of last tier I thought that was still the same
My b if not
cant be that big of a loss if u do press it whenever its up i feel like
It is
nope, its a relatively small loss but nothing worth writing home about if you arent pushing high content
iirc just 0.5% if you just press sd when its up no
can just press SD whenever you get a proc and its something like 2% less damage or something
yeah idk the exact number, its really small in the grand scheme
but also just listen to kaching
okay perfect 🙂 cuz i did get that wa, and i mean it pretty much went off every single time i could use execute
like a fkn disco
Caching is love caching is life
The audio prompt makes gameplay better imo. I feel like im cashing in
i swapped it to the whatsapp notification sound its like im getting a message
not the long one tho that would be psychotic..
I think I’ve grown to hate the game telling me to do something
Too many audio queues. I turned them all of sometime last tier lol.
I dont even listen to the prompts. I just like hearing it. Lol. Sometimes gotta prio RB. Sometimes gotta get bladestorm off CD for next pack
man im so glad that bm hunter got buffed they really needed it
blizz looks at raid charts and nothing else
What the lol
Better nerf Fury
ye its only gonna be busted in raid too
its like 6.2 mil st
lets shut down the discord until we get a buff
WEEE
Someone ping the other guy in here telling me BM was still gonna be weak earlier and also @earnest canyon
how to reset bursts after wipe on kyveza
Just pull
ok
Your CDs not being up won’t be the reason you don’t kill her
bran dps or heal
is that overall end of key or just 1 segment xd
1 segment would make sense
7b is a pretty big amount but i dont think its a whole key yea
overall would be kinda impossible unless you pull all the packs in a boss
maybe like 1 segment of trash before a boss
heal for me
i'm not ashamed that i use single button assist for the ?? difficulty
stupid question. looking at logs i see alot of the top parses spamming bloodthirst after bladestorm ends instead of raging blow. Am i missing something? Thought we spammed raging blow afterwards for slaughtering strike stacks
so wrecking throw is for sure better than shattering throw on plexus sentinal right>
this the first time im using one of these throw abilities
does this seem accurate or should i be doing something different
I pulled 22m on the first pack of floodgate with slayer. Idk if that’s good or not but I’m proud anyway
Are you sure you aren’t confusing this with BT cast from the bladestorm itself
ooooohhh maybe. didnt think of that. on logs it looks like they are being cast after bladestorm is over.
Bs casts like 3-4 bt
u spamming rb or just following prio?
rampage at 115> and execute when kaching happens
If you go into a pull without bladestorm 1-2 BT at the start to get some stacks is nice
wrong, press RB, if RB is available press again, into more RB
Me to actually I was like 21.4 but I had so many RB procs, I started taking capstones for TR in bigger pull dungeons but dropping it for cruel strikes in dungeons like streets and eco dome
hey yall, Oathsworn's Tenacity or Stormrider's Fury on both weapons or on 1 on each?
i use oath
but generally 2x oath but if you got low haste on your gear stormrider might be ok, depends on your gear.
31% haste atm
change a ring or necklace
I think I’m like 18k haste, 23k mastery, and 12k vers with like 4k crit
that seems to be a good split, my sims says similar to this
my entire vault is garbage 
most of the gear slots are locked anyway
Yea once you get too much haste/mast I’m liking the vers split
Feel tanky as hell
how much mastery is too much for fury?






ah okay
Bc robot said so
mastery sims to fall off for me at around 23-24k (i think its when flask of alch. starts going into 20% mastery DR) after it vers>mastery for me. But since most items are locked anyway just go with sims
These are my stats
looks decent enough to me
does fury have "funnel"?
I’m also doing a quick sim and I’m in a build where I don’t take capstones for TR bc I’m doing streets
yes
Did they revert the change on RB chance on reap the storm?
More targets with overwhelm = more rts procs
I feel like I'm not reaping as close as yday
is it a lot? or would you rather give the funnel to arcane mage instead
did the DISC belt get nurfed today or is it going to be another patch?
Any chance Thane gets a buff soon to bring it in line with Slayer?
No
.5 patch
Wdym “give” funnel
Not whirlwind? and do st rotation
thanks
having to do tethers feels so bad
Streets for sure. If you get a decent route econdome actually has some decent size pulls and the first boss is basically multi target! So outside of that there’s really only 2 ST heavy parts of the dungeon. I get it in streets tho for sure
Yea I ended over 10m and was so surprised haha
Make sure you’re getting overwhelm stacks on the targets . Without them you have a very low/nonexistent chance to get reap procs from RB
Spam spam spam. You by I find myself ignoring rampage if my enrage is holding strong
Might not be optimal but the numbers look good so idk
Yea lmao
Vibe spec
Aren’t you supposed to be on BM?!
Brother

Pls
Do not curse me to that shithole spec
They fix DR MM
I’ll go back to Hunter
This 3.8mil spread on dps
Always rampage when no enrage right?
Is killing me
Lmao I thought guild put you on dog duty !!! Live to reap another day ma boi!!

If I wanted to gamble I’ll just go to my casino
Steal that shit make us look good
I showed them numbers and begged and they said I can go back
Unless you have another way to enrage
@dapper goblet no prism... whats the fucking point
bean sayin
i will be killing mythic damastius a normal one as well dont u worry
lmaooo
when is the Jasper ring replaced? heard word that the Sim was wrong on this ring
that it suggests 100% uptime which is impossible
its not 100% uptime on sim
its just bugged in game sometimes and requires a weakaura to be used fully
ie you need to unequip it
and reequip
i would switch rings though if its sims within or under 10k
Do we know why guides recommend oathsworn tenacity for weapon enchants when vers isn't usually as good as haste or mastery for us? My sims are telling me to go stonebound artistry for the mastery, but I don't see anyone else doing that
thank you!
id just do what sim tells you to do
bis profile has the vers version
i have mastery/crit weapon enchants because that is what simmed the highest
Ok, thanks! Wasn't sure if I was missing something
can i run arms with fury stats ?
10 ara kara , are kids playing this game rn ?
str8 blast city
its funny because it usually takes 20-30 ques to even get into a +10 , 
You gonna play maplestory classic?
maplestory 2 needs to make a come back , that shit was the GEAR
I miss monster carnival pq
No, lootmaster has to change your roll
.
nothing better then the moon bunny rice cake pq
yeah
its just gonna be worse
slayer should be fine-ish, but colossus will be really bad
Fuck that pq.
is delve belt sim pretty accurate rn? 704 belt is saying side grade, would smash for more stam
maybe this idk
catalyze myth shoulders with speed or catalyze myth helm with socket?
@languid willow does this mean i should try to get vers mastery gear next?
Don’t use weights
use topgear only?
okay thanks
i legit cannot think of a use case for stat weights
you could use it to point out that str is very weak for us
the only time i used stat weights was to narrow down gems for arms neutral augury sim
i ran it recently for fun and i was surprised at how low off hand wdps is
I was gonna ping you earlier cos a guy was with noxiv on BM and the BM was gapping everyone doing 22mil overall in gambit 😄
Told you it was gonna be giga stupid lol
they just didnt know 
xD
forgot to add execute to arms apl
unlucky
turns out casting execute is a dps gain
dumb question but do i have to hit targets with champs spear in order to bind them or can the mobs walk through the small aoe and get bound?
Should I pick Ticking Sack of Terror or Void Pactstone? I got both in the vault.
prob sim question
pactstone is better in aoe
sack is pretty good st
Also, hero tier legs in there.. I currently have idol and a delve trinket.. Champ tier legs.
dont think
Exec on 2 stacks of MFE, 2 SD stacks, or jugg expiring
Follow the prio. It’s there for a reason
got myth plate belt but now realized im prob gonna have to recraft my wep to crit
i think its better to play based off scenario
if you need bladestorm going into next pack i tend to prio rampage + exe with mfe stacks more
Should've been haste already if slayer
my wep is haste mastery
bracers are vers/mastery
actually not gonna send the gilded on this belt yet in case i get the legs off loomithar
Have you checked if the cloak fiber switch is maybe cheaper
oh yeah i forgot about that
lol
gotta see how much crit i need tho
i might need more than just the cloak swap
In raids, is it better to use Rampage whenever Rage is full, or to hold it and use it when the Enrage buff is about to fall off, focusing more on Bloodthirst instead?”
I lost bunch of mastery, I simmed to balance my stats, cloak fiber switch was 0.9% out of 1.1% increase of recraft/enchants/fiber
when enrage is falling/down or >115 rage
Also slayer tries to not hit bt
what about gems
I sim the heaviest switch before gems, not worth my time or gold if it’s just 0.2% if I recraft my weapon+ ring enchants
3 million iterations for the expected result of : the usual 0.1% with gems
Ty
If the sim doesn’t even change my ring enchants, I don’t bother with gems
I hate seeing ppl with 30M or more in first pull of floodgate and im 3rd with like 15M lol
didnt complete the key but i was first after big momma
I used to be ret main for 3 years and Im used to be top dmg always, hard to switch to 5 hard cap but its ego stuff I know
im getting GRIEFED by these Aug Evokers coming out of the woodwork in keys.

You usually realize on the second pull the deception of those with 30m on burst
It was my turn last week with tier helmet and the billion vers neck
I have like a 2 week backlog at least for planned crests
I have almost vers= mastery
Ppl talk me out of picking scream trinket over mythic tier chest. I already have 1st boss H trinket and idol.
I really want the heroic trinket but im guessing it's not good for mplus
#vaultproblems
It’s not good for keys
myth tier chest is bis
u cannot replace it
i dont think
id have to check
like to 6/6 both
my last craft i used the free runed thingie
and still might not have enough
🙁
Perchance, are those who want you to take screams also want screams ?
Think he’s asking for us to talk him out of taking screams
Noone wants me to take screams i just want to cuz it's rare and I still have nostalgia of hitting that dragon head trinket from raid I dont even remember
It used to pump. Now no trinkets pump. Sack and the 1st H boss trinket do lile 2.7 overall
Chest is best
Oh I thought it was guild mate who just want to move you out of the roll on the reclear 
Thank you.
realest thing i've read in skyhold
Yes chest is best
Jackie he lied about pq though
