#fury

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edgy widget
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so you still end up getting the bleed every 20s or so

candid falcon
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oh right, unhinged! so it actually does something

edgy widget
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na no logic, we just made it up

candid falcon
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i almost bought that ngl

edgy widget
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Mastery > Crit and +RB crit damage isn't as good as it sounds

  • Raging Blow doesn't actually crit all that often, since we don't stack crits and it doesn't have any kind of Bloodcraze or Ashen Juggernuat type mechanic
  • It only buffs the extra damage done by RB's crit, not the total damage, so it's actually half as much as you think it should be
candid falcon
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oh i had no idea about that second thing

edgy widget
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"critical strikes deal 10% increased damage" means if your attack deals 100 damage and crits (normally * 2 = 200 damage), it actually does 100 * 2 * 1.1 = 220 damage right?

lean heart
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the difference between all of those options for me on pure ST is about like 0.1%

edgy widget
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wrong it actually does 100 + (100 * 1.1) = 210

candid falcon
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it should def. say "critical strike damage" instead of "critical strikes deal x% increased damage"

edgy widget
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because it's only increasing the extra damage done by the crit, not the total damage of the attack

edgy widget
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Blizzard actually does use total crit damage increases in some places, but its very inconsistent

rough torrent
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does any1 have issues logging dungeons, something weird happens and it like cuts half the dungeon off for me a lot of the time

edgy widget
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and frankly doesn't really matter to the layperson anyway; even if the numbers are different, the end result is still the same - you got a crit and it did more dam than before

candid falcon
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the aoe build drops all the way to dropping focus in chaos

gilded pawn
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focus in chaos is so broken

young swan
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dropping FiC feels really bad without a shaman

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its like

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actually noticeable

gilded pawn
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its like 3-4% st by itself

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at least in DF

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when people tried dropping it

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beast of a point

lean heart
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FiC is a fat point

candid falcon
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but we're still dropping it in M+/Raid cleave

winter shoal
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Adding FiC back in is a very small single target gain at the cost of a slightly-less-small-but-still-small aoe loss

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You can take it if you want for either the slightly higher single target and/or the feelsgood aspect of it

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Not gonna make a big difference either way

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IIRC we're talking about a difference of like 0.1-0.2% single target, ~0.5% aoe

edgy widget
winter shoal
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Yeah that's what I meant

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I think I just phrased it badly

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ST loss very small
AOE loss larger but still small

gilded pawn
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oh i forgot

edgy widget
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now you know why I edit everything at least three times

rocky sequoia
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is mountain thane the popular choice for soul huntards?

gilded pawn
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our 60 something percent auto attack buff got zeroes out essentially

candid falcon
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thane is no longer the popular choice for anything

gilded pawn
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by the time TWW came around

winter shoal
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thane slightly tankier and more forgiving with positioning (and target swapping to some extent)

winter shoal
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So thane isn't the majority but still very viable

compact knot
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anyone who has raided had terrible ping in raid

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literally 100 ping and spikes where i freeze (its not my side)

sterile stratus
gilded pawn
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then play it

soft viper
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was the renown bug hotfixed yet?

candid falcon
soft viper
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ye

candid falcon
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they fixed the tooltip of the buff to show that it affects DK runes but the double bug persists

soft viper
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whoa

restive peak
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Even then it’s minimal

compact knot
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bro is the sword

covert coyote
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happens to me sometimes, i just become invisible and am just some swords

soft viper
compact knot
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yeah also

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i need that sword

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where is it from

young swan
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aberrus

compact knot
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the guy left i didnt inspect him

covert coyote
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think it's related to the D4 flying demon thing mount

compact knot
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is that really the aberrus sword

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are u sure

young swan
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yes

worn rain
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Aberrus or pvp arsenal

young swan
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its normal mode i think

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maybe heroic

compact knot
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i have aberrus mythic

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i swear that is not the mog

quaint stag
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Yeah that’s heroic mode

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Orange is normal and purple is mythic

compact knot
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damn it is

quaint stag
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Looks like sinsedge covenant effect

compact knot
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that sword has a way cooler model than i remember

sullen tendon
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i fucking hate priory

quaint stag
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From whatever revendreth covenant was

sullen tendon
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i hope this dungeon disappears forever

compact knot
sullen tendon
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the amount of random shit that healers and ranged die to in priory is insane

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every key ive been in its a shaman a hunter or a mage or a druid constantly dying to getting shot or impale or running into caltrops or divine toll or some shit

gusty cloak
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man execute procs soooo much getting chachings up the yinyang

restive peak
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Nothing worse then seeing an xmog you want and it’s an old LFR one

compact knot
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how do you even get lfr mogs btw

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never learned

lapis shadow
# compact knot never learned

Showing the location of all LFR queue NPC in WoW from Cata to BFA. Also explaining what you can obtain and why you'd want to run it. Also explaining which queues lead to which bosses as that can be rather confusing.

Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:24 - Cataclysm Raidfinder NPC, Dragon Soul
1:09 - Mists of Pandaria Raidfinder NPC
1:54 - Warlords of D...

▶ Play video
edgy widget
olive wraith
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If only storm of steel was good

brittle folio
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Hello everybody, new player here. where can I find proper warrior guides/builds? fury for now

winter shoal
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Wowhead

olive wraith
brittle folio
lapis shadow
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Check Fury mythic+ build or Fury raid builds

brittle folio
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Will do

earnest canyon
brittle folio
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I have heard of wowhead, Ive been told to ask here first to make sure I follow good guides ^^

earnest canyon
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oh fair enough!

rocky sequoia
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i went to wowhead and it told me to use thane on soulhunters thats why i asked earlier

brittle folio
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Thanks everybody ^^ will check them out

olive wraith
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Thane is fine on hunters afaik

fast mural
rocky sequoia
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just got the soul hunter boots now people want to buy them D:

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is 250k alot

coarse nest
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Heroic?

rocky sequoia
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im using the LFR ones right now 8/8

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yeah

coarse nest
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prob could get 500k ez

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people pay way to much for stuff

rocky sequoia
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i had someone buy the normal ones for 300k i wasnt sure if that guy was throwing away his money or not last week now this time i get the heroic ones and i get instawhispered 250k

chilly fractal
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Tell him 500 or you walk

coarse nest
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LOL

chilly fractal
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Over him while wearing the boots

rocky sequoia
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i just told him sorry i need em, but im simming the difference just to check

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didnt tell him the simming part

fast mural
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are you starting a cartell

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the hell is this

rocky sequoia
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no but i dont sell these to him then i cant sell them ever again cuz i wont be able to roll need lol

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but if i dont*

fast mural
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this is some degen shit i dont understand

coarse nest
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You want gold or power

rocky sequoia
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yeah i miss personal loot

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when i started playing again i only rolled need on things i actually needed

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and was getting like no loot at all, so i started looking and literally everybody rolls need on everything

chilly fractal
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my boy Arn

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Always Roll Need

young swan
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some guy paid me 200k for the dimmy ring

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on normal

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500k or more

earnest canyon
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He sounds like a dummy not a dimmy

alpine palm
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Got a question. Can't wrap my head around why it is dps optimal to use Avatar and Recklessness simultaneously while running Berserker's Torment rather than staggering them by 8 seconds to maximize buff uptime

earnest canyon
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I'd never pay 200k for loot, because I don't have 200k.

oblique trail
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They don't overwrite

alpine palm
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ohh

last nacelle
alpine palm
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Appreciate the answer

fluid grove
fast mural
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BM is bugged keks

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what a time to be alive

coarse nest
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big dam or little dam?

fast mural
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unclear

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the logs ive seen have him both 99 parsing and green parsing

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but their black arrow does like 90% of their dmg

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sry 50%

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the bar just looked long

modest condor
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depleted a 15 flood by 4 seconds because we had a wipe on big momma :(

fast mural
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was it a BL big momma ?

modest condor
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yeah

fast mural
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thats still good time tho

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considering you lost a lust

modest condor
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yeah

cobalt relic
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was this timeable

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guys

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I got baited into abandoning

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cba

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depressed

edgy widget
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should be an option or somethin

radiant perch
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Do I hold avatar for reck or reck for avatar or just send them as they come up? In m+

modest condor
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just send them

cobalt relic
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730mins left

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on timer

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was timeable no?

coarse nest
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idk about that

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whole trash pack

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a boss

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mini boss

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and last boss

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thats tight as hell ngl

modest condor
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you pull the trash onto the boss

cobalt relic
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yeah

modest condor
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but yeah i dont think it was timable

alpine palm
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Ya it was close. I would have been sad about the abandon though

fossil grove
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I dont think that was timeable bud

modest condor
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3 minutes per boss

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leaves you with 1.5 minutes for the miniboss

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unless you have giga burst and kill it before the 2nd heal

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not timing that

cobalt relic
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ok then im relieved

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w/e

silver tapir
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I got H dima trinket in vault... should I pick it up over mythic track tier? I dont see ppl using it but I'd hate to pass it up

alpine palm
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This becomes more true the higher the key. Mobs will live longer and longer and that last 15% will end up being hundreds of millions of HP

cobalt relic
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look what my 3.4k rio pala tank

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happen to do

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i cba man idk

radiant perch
young swan
cobalt relic
devout totem
young swan
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7min for 2 full bosses + trash

graceful elk
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Isnt there a way to upgrade the cloack again?

young swan
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nope

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730 max

cobalt relic
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look at that pala tank

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aint that insane

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like legit

devout totem
cobalt relic
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ah ye

devout totem
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last time i saw you playing wow was S1 from df

earnest canyon
edgy oasis
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Guys sorry, why spam BT and Execute when bladestorm off cooldown. I know Execute reduces BS but why BT and not RB (new slayer m+ build)

cobalt relic
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he said he was not close @earnest canyon

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bro

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thats insane

cobalt relic
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I came back this szn

earnest canyon
cobalt relic
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yea legit

earnest canyon
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also your dps and that dk is insane for overall.....but i dont do keys anywhere near a 17 so maybe that is just normal

olive wraith
cobalt relic
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I was try harding that 1

forest owl
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how is havoc in keys they any good?

edgy widget
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among the best

olive wraith
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One of the reasons vdh isn’t as common this season

forest owl
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aw ok maybe the 711 dh i just beat at 703 was having a bad day monkahmm

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the reap is too stronk

deep sapphire
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How do I convince my GM that I should grab myth track Idol instead of Antenna because Antenna drops from raid but I can only get myth track Idol through vault?

warped gyro
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They’re op strong bc of funnel not necessarily fat overall

olive wraith
compact knot
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who else hasnt seen a antenna drop on their warrior

chilly fractal
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I haven’t seen a screams yet

olive wraith
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I haven’t. But I don’t raid

thorn skiff
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Mythic sac or mythic tier piece from vault? I would think sac

edgy widget
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you're probably more likely to see the tier or something catalyzable again

storm birch
thorn skiff
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That's my general thought process too. Thanks

storm birch
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Rip

lost swallow
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Whats the play for M+? is it still either thane or slayer? or with the changes do we need to run slayer now

storm birch
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We run Mountain Slayer now 🙌🏼😎

silver tapir
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I got screams and m track tier. But I dont see ppl use screams. I still want to pick it up but not sure

sand crest
unique vigil
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for a toon that doesnt do mythic raid (alt) would you guys take this wep over tier chest/leg?

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currently all hero tier

storm birch
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Much better boss dmg from slayer too

lost swallow
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Thanks! guess ill go start getting used to it

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but man Thane feels so nice

fluid agate
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is it ever worth going thane or is it fury all day

olive wraith
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Thane is fine if you enjoy it

fluid agate
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slayer is much more fun

olive wraith
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It just does a bit less st (in keys)

fluid agate
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but if thane is better in any situation I can run it

olive wraith
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Then play slayer. No worries

silver tapir
fluid agate
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slayer is so fun contantly spinning

storm birch
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Thane is good for like massive packs and if you get good rng. Slayer better in pretty much every other scenario

unique vigil
storm birch
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If you largely enjoy thane though and aren’t running top 1% keys then just play what you think is fun

olive wraith
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It’s funny cause you could spin almost as much pre bug fix

lost swallow
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Slayer M+ we still prio ex procs im assuming?

olive wraith
lost swallow
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dope

fluid agate
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slayer aoe seems really good

storm birch
# fluid agate dont you need decent rng to beat slayer?

Not in massive pulls (ie first pull gambit) I mean you still need procs but you don’t need like god rng. That said, by the end of the dungeon slayer should overtake simply cause of how good boss and smaller pull dmg is

storm birch
unique vigil
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wep also only cost 15 gilded to max :3

olive wraith
fluid agate
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that is true but slayer feels so nice right now

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and so much fun to play

olive wraith
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Oh for sure. Just mentioning some of the benefit of thane

storm birch
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My things is.. most classes can pump hard on adds. I value boss damage so much. So slayer is a no brainer for me

fluid agate
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I hope slayer remains good, going back to thane might be depressing

storm birch
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Thane is also beefier right? Isn’t there a talent that when you TB or TC (I think) things you get like 8% damage reduction

olive wraith
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I actually enjoy thane

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Must be the minority

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Ya thane is slightly more tanky

storm birch
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I love thane. I actually just really like that we have options rn

frank dawn
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thane def more tanky and higher self heals too with bloodthirst prio and resets

rigid stirrup
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it all comes down to what content you're doing. if you're doing weekly keys do whatever is fun. if you're pushing you'll probably have to swap to slayer at some point for prio damage

olive wraith
lost swallow
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yeah slayer feels pretty great, 12mil+ sustatined on dummies

storm birch
olive wraith
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Swap out focus in chaos

storm birch
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Ah I see

frank dawn
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even with the rb bonanza that Slayer currently is it stills feel a lot more engaging to me than Thane ever has. The tier set rng doesn't help that feeling for Thane either.

storm birch
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Yea doubt that’s hardly a dps loss at all

edgy widget
olive wraith
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But ya fury in general is super beefy. Invigorating fury makes it a better oh shit button

frank dawn
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yeah the general tankiness of fury feels great imo

coarse nest
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I'm never worried as fury

frank dawn
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until you're stuck in bfe for whatever reason and can't hit anything, then you feel squish

coarse nest
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always feel very safe

edgy widget
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I don't find Invig to be all that useful personally, 10% on demand heal isn't that impactful and +3s of ER is nice but I've rarely ever really felt in the position of base ER not being long enough

coarse nest
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just dstance and spell reflect

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you're giga safe

edgy widget
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chances are if I need 11s of CD instead of 8, I'm SoL anyway

graceful elk
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In AOE are we basically never hitting BT now?

edgy widget
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but Imp BT doesn't add much either, so it's not a bad swap

edgy widget
olive wraith
storm birch
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Yea i guess BT is only doing like 4% of my dmg in dungeons so losing 10% of that isn't horrible

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but if I know I can live then more dmg good dmg right?

olive wraith
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Like Archi said. The difference between based ER and extra talent ER is pretty small

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It might just be me but I don’t trust out healers often

sullen tendon
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anyone else run into this bug with the resilient keystone achievments?

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the game gave me resil 16 achievment last night before reset after timing the 2nd to last 16 i needed but it gave me the achievment anyways and now i have resillient 16s even though i have 1 15 to time on 16 still

olive wraith
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Grats

sullen tendon
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i guess

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dont know why i got it tho

olive wraith
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Free 16 resi

honest sundial
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Because u had 16 priory timed last season and it counts towards this season..

sullen tendon
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are you sure

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i had most of these other ones timed on 17 and 18 last season

honest sundial
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17 is bigger than 16

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Condition is met

sullen tendon
iron portal
olive wraith
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Gross

plush zephyr
iron portal
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With the amount of rage we generate and even waste, I dont see why not clueless

edgy widget
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would not work very well w/ fury

undone flower
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Off GCDs rotation on the 0.6-0.7 gcd spec monkahmm

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Yeah I don’t want to see that

iron portal
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Muhahaha

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But yea I can live without it

hardy nest
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Antenna Heroic or Ara-kara Sacbrood Mythic guys?

undone flower
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Prot already has apm issues every 2 patches

plush zephyr
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Sac

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Sim yourself

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But sac

hot rampart
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thank god BM got buffed, those poor things

iron portal
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you are trying to not get us nerfed i see

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GOod job

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Joking ofc. I dont even invite BM into keys anymore cause half of them cant press buttons properly

plush zephyr
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I always have great luck with bms

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And mms honestly

minor bay
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What is the best way to pull dungeons around fury warrior? Should we be chain pulling as much as possible? Or have clearly defined pulls so I could get fresh bladestorm down on new trash?

iron portal
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I dont think anyone pulls around fury

hot rampart
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^

iron portal
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We have very short cds

hot rampart
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I think we're fine either way. constant uptime is good ofc

plush zephyr
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I don’t think any tanks pull around anyone

iron portal
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In higher keys you can put 2 Bladestorms into pack anyway

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No matter if you got it in opener or later

minor bay
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True, I was asking because my tank was trying to help maximize my damage too considering soft capped damage

iron portal
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You would do big pulls around classes like shaman or Hunter or DK

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Fury just keeps going

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but I am not aware of any of those pulls in current meta

plush zephyr
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If anyone would have a strat to be pulling 5-8t groups it’d be bansherz/noxivs group

minor bay
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Thank you for the input everyone

ember solar
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cursed stone idol right before bladestorm?

iron portal
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Ideally yes

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or you can Idool-CDS-Rampage-BS

ember solar
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can I macro it with reck/avatar? or no because of the cast time

minor bay
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I macro idol with avatar, but just have to press the same button twice

rocky wharf
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Thanks for secret hotfix. Happy to do my role in m+

plush zephyr
ember solar
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is it bad for me to have something like this btw?

#showtooltip Recklessness
/use Tempered Potion
/use Blood Fury
/use Avatar
/use Recklessness
/use 14
iron portal
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I mean that would be fine

plush zephyr
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For cursed idol yes it’s bad

iron portal
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But not for that trinket

plush zephyr
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For a regular on use trinket, sure

gusty cloak
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because of wasted buff time?

plush zephyr
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It’s a cast

iron portal
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Reck and Ava are off gcd, simple macro like this would work
/cast Avatar
/cast Recklessness
/use Cursed Stone Idol
But you have to have free gcd . otherwise you would have to tap it twice to use trinket. Bit awkward for me

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I rather have separate bind for trinket

drifting token
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And reck

hot rampart
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2️⃣

gusty cloak
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isnt it reck and then avatar?

sterile stratus
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Is this current slayer situation the most fun the spec has ever been. Many people are saying yes

iron portal
wanton lantern
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Sims are telling me Head but that feels wrong

gusty cloak
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roger that

iron portal
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You can get Trinket anytime

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Head is bit harder imo

wanton lantern
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ty for confirming

south kayak
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Yep

storm birch
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finally got a 15 gambit

wanton lantern
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im like "ill run it but its prob the trinket"

iron portal
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Wait that is Mythic track right

wanton lantern
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no hero

south kayak
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It isn’t

iron portal
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Oh

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Then it really wont matter

south kayak
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I just noticed lmao

wanton lantern
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both were 1/6 hero

south kayak
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Doesn’t matter

wanton lantern
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well i took trinket

zealous pier
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This one is a bit spicy

south kayak
drifting token
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701 isnt 1/6 hero, that's 694

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Should be 3/6

iron portal
wanton lantern
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sorry 3/6

zealous pier
# south kayak Idol

That’s what my gut is telling me too. But also even hero antenna put me side eyed.

wanton lantern
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you right

iron portal
wanton lantern
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some other odd piece was 1/6

south kayak
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It’s gonna be better in the long run

zealous pier
iron portal
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You can get 2 chances per week on antena

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(decent ilvl i mean)

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but tbh even champ would be fine

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so 3 tries , espeically in guild you will get it eventually

south kayak
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I have champ on warrior

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I stopped playing for now though

iron portal
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Also depends which content you prefer

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But i would take it cause i can use it in raid too

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And i run m+

ember solar
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are people pugging first 2 mythic bosses yet?

south kayak
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They are

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If you can kill sentinel, you can kill soulbinder

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He’s easier

zealous pier
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I came back to retail recently late S2, I mainly pug lol. I enjoy raid and M+ but it’s not like I’m progging mythic or anything and I enjoy dungeons more overall.

south kayak
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And if you kill soulbinder you get Loom loot in vault

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The first boss is probably the hardest first boss in a while

ebon venture
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is mythic sacbrood or hero antennae better for M+ now with the slayer bug fix? when I sim it they both end up being a 2.5% upgrade

graceful elk
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You guys run thane on any of the raid fights?

iron portal
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Dont you have to have Loom killed at least once

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Cause thats how it is supposed to work

chrome plover
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nope

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it's not

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they changed it sometime in dragonflight

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maybe aberrus

iron portal
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As in, per wings?

chrome plover
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you are eligible for any loot that is officially before the latest boss in the raid you killed

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and loomithar is officially the 2nd boss

iron portal
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All right makes sense

chrome plover
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like if u killed plexus and dimensius youd be eligible for any loot in the raid from vault

chrome plover
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there was a small period where people were purposely not killing specific bosses to keep the perfect vault

chilly fractal
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Gains

chrome plover
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and that shit was cringe

ebon venture
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dunno if i should take the sacboord or antennae, both 2.5% improvement in SIM

drifting token
iron portal
# ebon venture

Prob same advice as to guy above: you can get antena from mythic/heroic and even normal

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But you wont get mythic track ara trinket anytime soon

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if it was between two mythic trinkets I would take Antena though

mental obsidian
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any wa to track slughtering strikes

drifting token
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We got a catalyst charge this week didn't we?

iron portal
iron portal
drifting token
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Yep thx

mental obsidian
drifting token
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Tracking slaughtering isn't gonna fix anything about that tho. The times you ramp is dictated by your enrage timer moreso than your stacks so it's treated more just as a passive amplifier to when you'd already be rampaging

iron portal
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if we played onslaught it would be easier to get to 5 stacks but we wont play it this expac lol

mental obsidian
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i mean i still dont understand what deals the most dmg

dense fulcrum
#

https://prnt.sc/bUhnxVSZAW1X i was reading above about focus in chaos but i lost track of the discussion, is it bad not having that ? im using this in m+

Lightshot

Captured with Lightshot

sharp cloak
#

where can i find new talents?

#

fury m+

drifting token
#

On wowhead

plush zephyr
#

I never thought that the lizard would cause so many questions for fury

drifting token
olive wraith
#

Or keep roar capstones. Other stat nodes are comparable afaik

tepid solar
#

Hmm how hard is astral antenna to use? I got it in gv, but read it may sim higher than actual use

iron portal
tepid solar
tepid solar
#

Trying to decide between that and pacemaker

iron portal
#

Not much diffulty

mental obsidian
iron portal
#

It is

#

But I know half the new people are here for numbers

mental obsidian
#

and sadly it's funnier than arms.. 🙁 colossus

#

for me it's fun
if i want numberse and push i go prot

iron portal
#

Which is fine, I dont judge

iron portal
mental obsidian
#

i think i used bloodthirtst like 3 times in last key lol
and dragon roar

iron portal
#

its best aoe trinket and second best ST trinket on mythic track

dense fulcrum
#

took kit from critcake, prob better

drifting token
#

Brother just look at wowhead instead of sending screenshots

digital mauve
#

what's the software to disabled thered enraged and all other aura?

dense fulcrum
drifting token
#

That's all you're gonna find here and from any streamer so good luck then

tepid solar
silver glen
#

Braintrust the Vault of Disappoinment has a mild inquisition. Should I take a mythic Sol'Leah's or a mythic tier chest?

olive wraith
iron portal
#

lol yea

dense fulcrum
#

took it from crit

#

he use diff

drifting token
#

The only difference between yours and wowheads is you move improved bt to fresh meat

#

Which is weird but whatever

olive wraith
#

Oh sorry it has rally

#

Ya you right. Your damage is gonna sky rocket now clueless

dense fulcrum
#

no

#

nvm

storm birch
#

15 floodgate goes hard o.O

#

wtf didn't expect that dmg

olive wraith
#

Big momma best boss

drifting token
#

Mystic touch best buff

storm birch
#

If only i had a feral instead of mage

#

extra 3% dmg or whatever

#

that's ok though. What a run

#

now i have ara kara 16 ruh roh

drifting token
#

Was just nerfed at least

storm birch
#

Yea tbh I think it'll be super easy now that I won't melt from poisons

rare garnet
storm birch
#

yea then I will play like complete trash cause of the pressure to perform lmao

dense fulcrum
olive wraith
#

You mean Aug anda

storm birch
#

i was flying under the radar big time here

meager hound
#

Is it normal for Antenna to sim lower than other trinkets on Single Target?

olive wraith
#

And I assume you mean equal ilvl

meager hound
#

Nope, Even higher ilvl. I have it set at 0%

#

0% miss, that is.

olive wraith
#

Link the sim and hope someone smart is lurking

#

That does sound off

acoustic coyote
#

do we press rb while rage capped now?

coarse nest
#

Still better to rampage if above 115rage because of CDR

still ibex
hardy cargo
#

and if u are still enraged, if it falls off you ramp

acoustic coyote
#

ty

#

but for brutal finish still up to 5?

olive wraith
#

If you can

#

Highly unlikely to reach 5

meager hound
edgy widget
covert coyote
meager hound
#

Fair.

#

I still took it for AoE, since I do more high-level M+ than I do raiding. Only doing Heroic on this guy currently.

boreal dock
#

Hoa trinket?

covert coyote
#

CSI is practically bis for M+ for sure

edgy widget
#

excuse me, that's IdPM, tyvm

terse scaffold
#

Do you macro it in with CDs or do it separate

covert coyote
#

you know, that's just my warrior brain. words hard, reading scary

#

I think you have it separate so you use it mid-charge or just before you press CDs so you don't waste 1 sec of CD's rubbing the idol to get the genie out

verbal garden
#

Do you execute much in AOE using slayer. I have been when the WA dings but wondering if i should just keep going with RB.

terse scaffold
#

Yah thats what I was thinking, just got it for the first time this season in vault.

olive wraith
#

Yes you still exe

earnest nimbus
#

do i just wait and see if they give me forgeweaver 2h tn?

daring coral
#

that antenna goes hard

restive peak
#

I'd take antenna, it's legit bigger than the 720>723 wep, and also everyone wants it

#

We aren't really competin for 2hs in raid

dark elbow
#

First 2H in raid drops on the 4th boss, not sure my guild is able to kill that before the .5 patch sadge

restive peak
#

4th boss got nerfed pretty good

dark elbow
#

Stop giving me hope critcake

restive peak
#

Honestly loom is prob harder now lol

dense jewel
#

Just get a two hander from vault like me keks

earnest nimbus
restive peak
#

Wut

earnest nimbus
#

😭

restive peak
#

That's just poor usage of loot lol

earnest nimbus
#

they told him to hold on crafting

#

lmao

restive peak
#

Like if you guys are a prog guild they're inting and he's inting your group as a whole

#

Stupid

dark elbow
#

Hes probably the only DK they have and want to keep him for the grips

thorny peak
#

on one hand its my first mythic line item of the season .... on the other hand its a boots

restive peak
#

I mean

#

He can craft his fuckin wep

#

Like he's a DK tank, he doesn't need 2 720 embellish pieces for success

merry night
tranquil dust
#

Is it normal that everyone says CSI is the BiS for M+ and my sims keep taking Sac unless I sim for 10 targets?

runic acorn
#

I am so torn. Myth tier helm or huge heroic ring upgrade...

olive wraith
#

You can farm rings

#

Harder to farm myth

dark elbow
#

Or Craft a good one

runic acorn
#

but that hast mastery ring is hard to find. Yeah could craft

#

big number right there though

#

And isn't BiS helm the BoE anyway?

dark elbow
#

Oof IDK what i would choose

versed glen
#

has our build changed at all since the hotfix?

restive peak
#

I would absolutely not take a heroic item over a myth 1

worn rain
#

I would also go for ring

runic acorn
olive wraith
worn rain
#

considering stat diminishings, if you craft ring you can manipulate it with desirable stat compositions

dark elbow
#

Oh i thought you upgrade a hero ring to myth, yeah take myth item

midnight kite
#

yeah theres BiS and Realistic BiS

restive peak
#

BIS is relative to minor gem/enchant/offpiece swaps

#

There are about 5-6 item setups that end within like .2% of eachother

runic acorn
#

That's true. I will probably pick helm but hard choice

restive peak
#

Picking a heroic item you are guaranteed to replace via even just crafts > an immediate myth track BIS/border BIS item

#

Should not even be a thought

acoustic coyote
#

any reason why quicksim always does like 28% raging blow while most top ranks are at 20-23%? that's roughly what I'm getting, too

restive peak
#

The robot is perfect and we are human

acoustic coyote
#

yeah but 5%? that's a lot

runic acorn
#

Short term bigger number thinking can get me sometimes

restive peak
silver tapir
#

How do we feel about screams trinket?

worn rain
runic acorn
restive peak
#

Consider that the robot is the best case for RB resets etc w 100% uptime

lean heart
#

holy moly reap

olive wraith
lean heart
#

13 priory unforch didnt time

spare steppe
#

Would yall go for a socket or an off-spec piece?

restive peak
#

Socket lol

acoustic coyote
worn rain
#

socket but I also would sit on the tokens for potential spark shenanigans

spare steppe
#

Socket it is

#

Worst vault I’ve had in a while but it happens

dusky moon
#

He chose to hold

#

because he followed terrible wowhead DK advice

#

that said to hold

restive peak
#

LMAO

earnest nimbus
#

thats even worse, oops! my b

restive peak
#

I had 3 chests and a belt today, luckily I did need chest but man we were close to a disaster vault

dusky moon
#

it was very annoying to deal with

restive peak
#

It's a good thing I'm never on a loot council

#

I'd punish that stupidity by blatantly saying why they're not getting it and saying go craft rn

balmy shore
#

any antenna GAMERS

modest condor
#

no

restive peak
#

WELCOME TO THE CREW JACKIE LETS GO

smoky vale
#

do i take it or sac

sullen dove
restive peak
#

^

smoky vale
#

@dusky moon hi :3

restive peak
#

Swordish on that Lincbrain

#

Proud

sullen dove
smoky vale
modest condor
iron portal
ruby scaffold
#

Someday I'll get an exciting trinket or myth track weapon from vault.

spice marlin
#

how much more beneficial is changing to my warrior on Araz prog to send me to pillars with adds to reap the fuck outta the pillar?
taling into account i'm a warlock atm

4p bug fix worth the switch basically - we got 2 locks and no dps warrs

nimble sphinx
#

when you guys sim antenna how much miss chance do you set it to?

nimble kraken
#

Gave the hardmode a shot with pugs... Made it 5 bosses and they threw up a discord link after we dropped the 5th guy with the intent to comm for boss 6. I never got to join the discord...

#

Tank pulled next pack, we all go forward. and then healer stands still; think he was trying to join the discord

#

murloc blue circle 110%(I rallied) to 0%

#

rip

plush zephyr
#

Omggggg hahahahah

young swan
#

that is really rough

modest condor
#

oof

young swan
#

thats like the only boss u need comms for too

#

dragon and soleah are both very easy

nimble kraken
#

tbf, who puts up a discord link; and then continues before everyone hops in

plush zephyr
#

Pugging psychopaths

young swan
#

yeah thats a knob move

nimble kraken
#

I was typing the link in, heard audio and went Oh I'll join after the pull

steep fable
#

This look reasonable for an ara kara 13?

young swan
nimble kraken
#

healer heard it and came forward to, just think he alt tabbed out cause he was feeling safe

steep fable
#

Also, how tf are people hitting 10M and higher?

young swan
#

if its streets or dawn its exceptional

young swan
tranquil jetty
#

I wish I enjoyed fury warrior more

steep fable
tranquil jetty
#

The length of rampage always feels like

#

1 second too short for me

maiden hearth
#

pull count and speed matter

young swan
#

yeah thats another thing

#

cd's lining up well

#

lusting the right stuff

#

pulling the right stuff

maiden hearth
#

and bosses can be hiccups in dmg if you just sit on bosses forever

young swan
#

not no mention pulling packs onto bosses is insane for overalls

steep fable
young swan
#

if you arent doing that ur overall is gonna be WAY lower

olive wraith
#

4 mins on first gambit boss. 4 mins on dragon boss

#

Shot my overall

maiden hearth
#

i mean i did like 8m in a 10 gambit cause our shaman did like 3m overall

#

peaked like 25m or something first pull and kept it going for chains but we just were slow after

dusky moon
maiden hearth
#

it happens, overalls are cool but timing is cooler

void pilot
#

is the jastor diamond sim bait?

young swan
#

in a sense, yes

#

its prone to bugging in game

#

so unless if you want to unequip and reequip it every time you pull a boss, just replace it

void pilot
#

ty i was gonna replace cause its a .1 difference anyways but i was wondering why sims still favor it

earnest bone
#

is there a mastery/haste soft cap for fury?

young swan
earnest bone
#

gotchya

young swan
#

as an example, most people I know of stop getting haste around 30-35%, im up at 40% because thats just what sims highest for me

grand anvil
#

should u use execute on cd?

earnest bone
#

yah, im at 45% haste and 57% mastery and thinking theyre overcooked

plush zephyr
#

For when to press execute

#

While playing slayer

young swan
smoky vale
#

hi xan

young swan
#

hi gio

plush zephyr
#

Thane it replaces slam when target is under 35%

smoky vale
#

is there pash for showing belly this week

young swan
#

prob not

#

new genshin update

grand anvil
#

aha okay thx guys 😄

warm crag
grand anvil
#

oltho that feels like pretty much all of the time tbh xD

young swan
#

yeah u press it a lot

#

practically on CD, but not exclusively

plush zephyr
#

My b if not

grand anvil
#

cant be that big of a loss if u do press it whenever its up i feel like

plush zephyr
#

It is

young swan
#

nope, its a relatively small loss but nothing worth writing home about if you arent pushing high content

warm crag
#

iirc just 0.5% if you just press sd when its up no

young swan
#

can just press SD whenever you get a proc and its something like 2% less damage or something

#

yeah idk the exact number, its really small in the grand scheme

warm crag
#

but also just listen to kaching

grand anvil
#

okay perfect 🙂 cuz i did get that wa, and i mean it pretty much went off every single time i could use execute

#

like a fkn disco

plush zephyr
#

I turned off the audio queue lol

#

Just go by it lighting up

grand anvil
#

understandable x)

#

yee prolly the way to go

silver tapir
#

Caching is love caching is life

#

The audio prompt makes gameplay better imo. I feel like im cashing in

whole remnant
#

i swapped it to the whatsapp notification sound its like im getting a message

#

not the long one tho that would be psychotic..

plush zephyr
#

Too many audio queues. I turned them all of sometime last tier lol.

silver tapir
#

I dont even listen to the prompts. I just like hearing it. Lol. Sometimes gotta prio RB. Sometimes gotta get bladestorm off CD for next pack

modest condor
#

man im so glad that bm hunter got buffed they really needed it

analog kite
#

blizz looks at raid charts and nothing else

frank dawn
#

What the lol

chilly fractal
bitter palm
#

its like 6.2 mil st

balmy shore
#

i hope u get one tn

analog kite
#

lets shut down the discord until we get a buff

balmy shore
restive peak
mental obsidian
#

how to reset bursts after wipe on kyveza

chilly fractal
#

Just pull

mental obsidian
#

ok

chilly fractal
#

Your CDs not being up won’t be the reason you don’t kill her

mental obsidian
#

bran dps or heal

unique vigil
#

1 segment would make sense

sullen dove
#

7b is a pretty big amount but i dont think its a whole key yea

remote haven
#

overall would be kinda impossible unless you pull all the packs in a boss

sullen dove
#

maybe like 1 segment of trash before a boss

tired oxide
#

i'm not ashamed that i use single button assist for the ?? difficulty

reef mist
#

stupid question. looking at logs i see alot of the top parses spamming bloodthirst after bladestorm ends instead of raging blow. Am i missing something? Thought we spammed raging blow afterwards for slaughtering strike stacks

quiet breach
#

so wrecking throw is for sure better than shattering throw on plexus sentinal right>

#

this the first time im using one of these throw abilities

unique vigil
#

does this seem accurate or should i be doing something different

storm birch
#

I pulled 22m on the first pack of floodgate with slayer. Idk if that’s good or not but I’m proud anyway

slim coral
reef mist
olive wraith
#

Bs casts like 3-4 bt

reef mist
#

thanks i was confused for a second

#

also like the name RIP Thane lol

charred flint
hoary agate
#

what else do you do apart from RB reaping

#

tbh

charred flint
#

rampage at 115> and execute when kaching happens

remote haven
#

If you go into a pull without bladestorm 1-2 BT at the start to get some stacks is nice

hoary agate
languid willow
manic mirage
#

hey yall, Oathsworn's Tenacity or Stormrider's Fury on both weapons or on 1 on each?

remote haven
#

i use oath

hoary agate
#

but generally 2x oath but if you got low haste on your gear stormrider might be ok, depends on your gear.

manic mirage
#

31% haste atm

languid willow
#

O.o

#

wtf

remote haven
#

change a ring or necklace

charred flint
#

whatever sims higher

#

probable neck

languid willow
#

I think I’m like 18k haste, 23k mastery, and 12k vers with like 4k crit

remote haven
inland valley
#

my entire vault is garbage sadga

remote haven
#

most of the gear slots are locked anyway

languid willow
#

Yea once you get too much haste/mast I’m liking the vers split

#

Feel tanky as hell

tired oxide
#

how much mastery is too much for fury?

gusty fern
tired oxide
#

and do we need to add vers to fury?

#

or just stack on haste mastery

languid willow
#

@tired oxide usually the robot tells me when to vers

#

My cloak I’m using vers gem

tired oxide
#

ah okay

languid willow
#

Bc robot said so

remote haven
#

mastery sims to fall off for me at around 23-24k (i think its when flask of alch. starts going into 20% mastery DR) after it vers>mastery for me. But since most items are locked anyway just go with sims

languid willow
#

These are my stats

remote haven
languid willow
#

This is using idol tho

wise moon
#

does fury have "funnel"?

languid willow
#

I’m also doing a quick sim and I’m in a build where I don’t take capstones for TR bc I’m doing streets

remote haven
tall vault
#

Did they revert the change on RB chance on reap the storm?

languid willow
#

More targets with overwhelm = more rts procs

tall vault
#

I feel like I'm not reaping as close as yday

languid willow
#

Not to my knowledge no

#

I did great today

wise moon
#

is it a lot? or would you rather give the funnel to arcane mage instead

lofty palm
#

did the DISC belt get nurfed today or is it going to be another patch?

languid willow
#

I think I ended like 9.3M overall in flood today

#

So I doubt they changed it

haughty carbon
#

Any chance Thane gets a buff soon to bring it in line with Slayer?

olive wraith
olive wraith
wise moon
#

Not whirlwind? and do st rotation

lofty palm
charred flint
#

having to do tethers feels so bad

storm birch
#

Yea I ended over 10m and was so surprised haha

storm birch
storm birch
#

Might not be optimal but the numbers look good so idk

languid willow
#

I just press what feels good

#

And it ends up being good

storm birch
#

Yea lmao

languid willow
#

Vibe spec

storm birch
#

Aren’t you supposed to be on BM?!

languid willow
#

Brother

storm birch
languid willow
#

Pls

#

Do not curse me to that shithole spec

#

They fix DR MM

#

I’ll go back to Hunter

#

This 3.8mil spread on dps

unique vigil
#

Always rampage when no enrage right?

languid willow
#

Is killing me

storm birch
#

Lmao I thought guild put you on dog duty !!! Live to reap another day ma boi!! reap reap

languid willow
#

If I wanted to gamble I’ll just go to my casino

olive wraith
languid willow
#

I showed them numbers and begged and they said I can go back

olive wraith
unique vigil
#

:3

bronze chasm
#

@dapper goblet no prism... whats the fucking point

dapper goblet
#

bean sayin

bronze chasm
#

i will be killing mythic damastius a normal one as well dont u worry

wise moon
dapper goblet
#

no tier helm either

#

normal mode helmet for fun

quiet breach
#

got socketed myth plate belt

#

:based:

feral ivy
#

can i change how i roll like for transmog or can only RL do it

#

for RCLC

light sandal
#

when is the Jasper ring replaced? heard word that the Sim was wrong on this ring

#

that it suggests 100% uptime which is impossible

compact knot
#

its not 100% uptime on sim

#

its just bugged in game sometimes and requires a weakaura to be used fully

#

ie you need to unequip it

#

and reequip

#

i would switch rings though if its sims within or under 10k

jolly mica
#

Do we know why guides recommend oathsworn tenacity for weapon enchants when vers isn't usually as good as haste or mastery for us? My sims are telling me to go stonebound artistry for the mastery, but I don't see anyone else doing that

compact knot
#

bis profile has the vers version

#

i have mastery/crit weapon enchants because that is what simmed the highest

jolly mica
#

Ok, thanks! Wasn't sure if I was missing something

bright ledge
#

can i run arms with fury stats ?

wheat lantern
#

10 ara kara , are kids playing this game rn ?

young swan
#

its just a 10

#

cant expect player quality to be very high

wheat lantern
#

str8 blast city

#

its funny because it usually takes 20-30 ques to even get into a +10 , okayge

olive wraith
wheat lantern
#

maplestory 2 needs to make a come back , that shit was the GEAR

olive wraith
#

I miss monster carnival pq

undone flower
bright ledge
wheat lantern
#

nothing better then the moon bunny rice cake pq

young swan
#

its just gonna be worse

#

slayer should be fine-ish, but colossus will be really bad

olive wraith
mossy pelican
#

is delve belt sim pretty accurate rn? 704 belt is saying side grade, would smash for more stam

#

maybe this idk

humble bolt
#

catalyze myth shoulders with speed or catalyze myth helm with socket?

tired oxide
#

@languid willow does this mean i should try to get vers mastery gear next?

olive wraith
#

Don’t use weights

tired oxide
#

use topgear only?

olive wraith
#

Just sim top gear/ droptimizer

#

Ya

tired oxide
#

okay thanks

bitter palm
#

i legit cannot think of a use case for stat weights

pulsar quest
#

are we supposed to get 6% raid buff this week

#

or am i tripping

#

is that next week

modest condor
#

you could use it to point out that str is very weak for us

bitter palm
#

the only time i used stat weights was to narrow down gems for arms neutral augury sim

bitter palm
earnest canyon
restive peak
#

Told you it was gonna be giga stupid lol

bitter palm
#

they just didnt know clueless

restive peak
#

xD

bitter palm
#

unlucky

#

turns out casting execute is a dps gain

still obsidian
#

dumb question but do i have to hit targets with champs spear in order to bind them or can the mobs walk through the small aoe and get bound?

sand lake
#

Should I pick Ticking Sack of Terror or Void Pactstone? I got both in the vault.

compact knot
#

pactstone is better in aoe

#

sack is pretty good st

sand lake
#

Also, hero tier legs in there.. I currently have idol and a delve trinket.. Champ tier legs.

tired oxide
#

sometimes i'm in dilema to use execute or raging blow

#

any insight?

#

XD

pulsar quest
#

dont think

compact knot
#

hero tier legs over a myth track trinket is unhinged

#

i would never do thatr

restive peak
#

Exec on 2 stacks of MFE, 2 SD stacks, or jugg expiring

olive wraith
#

Follow the prio. It’s there for a reason

quiet breach
#

got myth plate belt but now realized im prob gonna have to recraft my wep to crit

compact knot
#

i think its better to play based off scenario

quiet breach
#

and bracers

#

lol

#

gotta see how much i get

#

losing critical chain is alot

compact knot
#

if you need bladestorm going into next pack i tend to prio rampage + exe with mfe stacks more

restive peak
#

Should've been haste already if slayer

quiet breach
#

my wep is haste mastery

#

bracers are vers/mastery

#

actually not gonna send the gilded on this belt yet in case i get the legs off loomithar

undone flower
quiet breach
#

lol

#

gotta see how much crit i need tho

#

i might need more than just the cloak swap

tardy hare
#

In raids, is it better to use Rampage whenever Rage is full, or to hold it and use it when the Enrage buff is about to fall off, focusing more on Bloodthirst instead?”

undone flower
#

I lost bunch of mastery, I simmed to balance my stats, cloak fiber switch was 0.9% out of 1.1% increase of recraft/enchants/fiber

edgy widget
olive wraith
hidden stirrup
undone flower
# quiet breach what about gems

I sim the heaviest switch before gems, not worth my time or gold if it’s just 0.2% if I recraft my weapon+ ring enchants

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3 million iterations for the expected result of : the usual 0.1% with gems

tardy hare
undone flower
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If the sim doesn’t even change my ring enchants, I don’t bother with gems

bright ledge
# young swan yeah

I hate seeing ppl with 30M or more in first pull of floodgate and im 3rd with like 15M lol

olive wraith
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But how’s your overall

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It usually evens out

bright ledge
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didnt complete the key but i was first after big momma

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I used to be ret main for 3 years and Im used to be top dmg always, hard to switch to 5 hard cap but its ego stuff I know

stoic star
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im getting GRIEFED by these Aug Evokers coming out of the woodwork in keys.

olive wraith
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Our main aoe damage isn’t hard capped

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Fwiw

bright ledge
undone flower
olive wraith
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Reap/tb hero tree depending

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They aren’t hard capped

quiet breach
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got myth legs too

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GODDAMN

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im getting loot tonight boys

undone flower
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It was my turn last week with tier helmet and the billion vers neck

chilly fractal
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I have like a 2 week backlog at least for planned crests

undone flower
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I have almost vers= mastery

silver tapir
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Ppl talk me out of picking scream trinket over mythic tier chest. I already have 1st boss H trinket and idol.

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I really want the heroic trinket but im guessing it's not good for mplus

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#vaultproblems

olive wraith
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It’s not good for keys

bitter palm
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myth tier chest is bis

quiet breach
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i dont have enough crests

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for this loot

bitter palm
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u cannot replace it

quiet breach
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i dont think

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id have to check

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like to 6/6 both

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my last craft i used the free runed thingie

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and still might not have enough

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🙁

undone flower
olive wraith
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Think he’s asking for us to talk him out of taking screams

silver tapir
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Noone wants me to take screams i just want to cuz it's rare and I still have nostalgia of hitting that dragon head trinket from raid I dont even remember

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It used to pump. Now no trinkets pump. Sack and the 1st H boss trinket do lile 2.7 overall

olive wraith
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Chest is best

undone flower
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Oh I thought it was guild mate who just want to move you out of the roll on the reclear keks

silver tapir
balmy shore
undone flower
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Yes chest is best

olive wraith
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Jackie he lied about pq though