#fury

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livid lake
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🤷

tranquil dust
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Deepps PSF 18

tranquil dust
junior gale
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your reap dmg is just gonna depend on pull sizes

jolly parrot
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tf is ur bs dmg

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xd

fickle cedar
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You have to make sure you start a pack with bladestorm to get as much overwhelmed stacks into it, dont finish a pull with it if you know you're not gonna have for the next, its what enables our RB spam build for reap the storm procs

tranquil dust
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12 vs 18, overall doesnt matter, only DPS, overall gonna be higher on 18 obv

tranquil dust
olive wraith
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Are you using bs on pull

tranquil dust
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Maybe Im still too focused on the rotation, due to habit from thane

tranquil dust
olive wraith
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That’s a big one

tranquil dust
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I may have wasted it on a few ending and not bladestorm the next

edgy widget
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ah we're back!

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without @slim coral

tranquil dust
junior gale
nocturne oyster
junior gale
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just ST

livid lake
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In st yes, in big pulls thane pulls ahead

junior gale
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play it if you want

nocturne oyster
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Alright, slayer seems very very fun to play, but not too used to it yet

livid lake
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I have always preffered slayer in aoe on both specs

tranquil dust
prime bane
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ok so i went over by 11 seconds

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but can someone go to the 5 dummies and due their aoe rotation as fury i wanna compare details

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i've seen many show bladestorm where rampage is

nocturne oyster
prime bane
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and that just is not my experience

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i did the dps the sim said i would do

junior gale
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not worth your time tbh

inner zinc
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damn, when i saw the discord down i almost hoped it was an anti-nerf pre-emptive strike with the shutdown of the server copium keks

tranquil dust
polar narwhal
prime bane
tranquil dust
rich flame
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Do u guys use improved bt in slayer m+, that talents looks like close to 0 value it's tempting to put it elsewhere like enranged frenzy ..

junior gale
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you can drop it if u want

polar narwhal
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Usually looks the same for me.

tranquil dust
edgy widget
edgy widget
prime bane
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does my screenshot of details align with your alls on the dummies is what i wanna know, i am only ilvl 704

tranquil dust
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Nvm, I was thinking about Crushing Force

prime bane
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maybe their bladestorms are higher because they are simply getting more procs

tranquil dust
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Im running these

polar narwhal
# prime bane

Execute will show a bit higher on dummies because they are permanently low health.

prime bane
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either due to gear or due to rng

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yeah i dislike that part apart

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but i try to only use it when i have at least the 2 stacks

polar narwhal
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Its more fun if you place the target dummy toys there

junior gale
polar narwhal
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šŸ™‚

prime bane
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i'm just very self conscious

junior gale
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Follow prio from the guides hit the dummies compare it with sims

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gg

prime bane
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my sim was near exact

junior gale
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congratz

prime bane
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now in dungeons that near exact is not even close to exact lmfao

junior gale
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your playing it well then

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no shit

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because dungeons are diff than sims

prime bane
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i think i was sitting here worrying over nothing which is nothing new

junior gale
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yes

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I think that is correct

leaden tartan
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Lmao i feel this

junior gale
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wow isnt that complicated so dont over think things!

edgy widget
junior gale
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and constant comparison to others will just paralyze you and keep you from progressing or growing

prime bane
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i have extreme anxiety, enough that they have me on 1mg extended release xanax twice a day and 1mg liquid xanax twice a day

leaden tartan
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Fury is a nice relaxing class to help calm u down then

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junior gale
prime bane
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so it isn't strange that i would have extreme anxiety over very stupid shit

vernal mulch
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guys according to this, are we pressing thunder blast basically whenever it procs unless enrage is not active or we have CDs to press

vernal mulch
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so even if we have more than 100 rage we are pressing thunder clap before rampage unless enrage isnt active

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gotcha

warm crag
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ye thunder blast fucks and resets itself

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big recommendation to press n and then click slayer instead though

junior gale
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TB is king for thane

queen echo
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Not been meeting up with the posts so I'm sorry if it's already been said, but are we switching off thane to slayer for M+ or are they close enough I'm damage that it's just preference?

vernal mulch
warm crag
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yeah ever since the bugfix/hotfix/whatever slayer is just kinda better for everything now

grim star
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and its good enough in packs now

warm crag
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you can still play thane if you want vaguely bigger overalls but slayer will just be better and doesnt have to deal with the finnicky tb resetting taking 0.9 of a gcd

vernal mulch
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but isnt our overall gonna be even lower then

junior gale
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overall doesnt matter

queen echo
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And it's basically just prioritizing raging blow to trigger reap?

junior gale
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slayer saves infinitly more time by doing way more ST dmg

vernal mulch
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hahahah

sullen dove
junior gale
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get good then

sullen dove
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luhhhhh prio damage

junior gale
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and dont be on the bottom

warm crag
sullen dove
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REAL

junior gale
modest condor
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no

sullen dove
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BRING 20 MOBS ON TOP OF BOSS

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I FUNNEL BOSS

vernal mulch
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šŸ’€

junior gale
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I swear its funnel bro just pull the mobs onto the boss and let only me hit them

sullen dove
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everyone else single target

vernal mulch
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sooo how many times do we raging blow after bladestorm

warm crag
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and position the boss in a way where my reap always hits them

junior gale
sullen dove
vernal mulch
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cuz after bladestorm im kinda almost rage capped

sullen dove
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no deft xp = no enrage after bs ends

warm crag
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you dont care about rage after bladestorming

junior gale
tranquil dust
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I will miss the PTSHHHH sound of Thuder Blast so much 🄲 But numbers are numbers

brave totem
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it feels illegal to not rampage with max rage this new playstyle def needs some gettting used to it

warm crag
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rage has kind of been cosmetic for a long time at this point

sullen dove
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thats kinda been the playstyle for 2 seasons

vernal mulch
sullen dove
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just once little bit after every bladestorm

vernal mulch
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also are we taking bladestorm in aoe fights or keys as slayer or do we take ravager

edgy widget
sullen dove
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slayer never takes ravager

vernal mulch
junior gale
vernal mulch
sullen dove
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and aoe 1 was a bit of a meme but if you are using odyns u probably dont have deft xp which basically guarantees 4-5 seconds of enrage after coming out of bladestorm and enough time to slam as many raging blows as you want

junior gale
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warrior rage cosmetic most of the time

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overcapp away

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if the prio says soo

sullen dove
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but without deft if u get unlucky no enrage procs off bt you can come out of a bladestorm with no enrage

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so you'd just ramp right away

sullen dove
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arms in big 25

junior gale
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Slayer arms ravager went hard

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bring it back

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ty

vernal mulch
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deft xp?

sullen dove
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mastery talent bottom left of tree

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bt hits extend enrage

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and unhinged casts bts during bladestorm

vernal mulch
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oh i didnt realize arch updated his wowhead guide alr oops

edgy widget
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and Icy-Veins

vernal mulch
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i thought i refreshed like 2 days ago or smth and didnt notice a difference šŸ˜…

junior gale
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Icy-Veins Archi vs Wowhead Archi who wins in a fight

vernal mulch
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does slayer ever take champion's spear or odyns fury?

junior gale
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you can take OF

sullen dove
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yea u can odyns in m+ spear usually not great but pri inconsequential whatever you pick if u happen to like spear more

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i b using it for forgeweaver as slayer and it dont feel that bad

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roar just easier tho m+ still

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yo no way im riding @hallow sphinx

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pause

edgy widget
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there's a lot going on in that picture and I'm not entirely certain all of it is good

sullen dove
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its all peak

languid willow
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9.8m overall in a ara kara today 😮

plush zephyr
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Ratchet and clank I mean goat

languid willow
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it was only a guildy run for vault so it was only a 12

sullen dove
vernal mulch
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slayer alr doesnt take OF or spear it looks like

sullen dove
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diff sides of tree

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can drop some bt talents for it

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build should be in guide

vernal mulch
junior gale
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should be builds in here

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and on wowhead

burnt stone
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"execute,if=debuff.marked_for_execution.stack>1&buff.enrage.up"
This is a question about the conditions.
It's not mfe>=1, it's >1, right?
That is, when there are 2 or more stacks, right?

sullen dove
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yea

vernal mulch
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oh i see. dont think the OF build is on wowhead, but essentially spear does what OF does but slightly worse

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?

languid willow
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I don’t use TR in slayer enough to justify it so I usually take spear as a utility talent for mob control

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Since I don’t take the capstones for it

vernal mulch
undone flower
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goober swordish shouldnt be allowed to buy bis gear from a boss he didnt suffer on

languid willow
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@vernal mulch only on packs that exceed like 5 targets and even then not really I just rather slam RB instead

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It has to be an atrocious pull like first few floodgates

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Or first of priory

sullen dove
languid willow
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Damn that TR damg is good it’s off the carts

sullen dove
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real

storm birch
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It did 4.3% of my overall in 15 dawn so not horrible but not game changing

smoky vale
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hi pookie

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@sullen dove

languid willow
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Are you running capstones @storm birch ?

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If I was using the 2 capstones on TR I’d probably use it more but I don’t and I just use champ spear for adds instead on dungeons where it’s niche

sullen rune
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I hate halls. I hate it. I hate iiiiiiiitttttttt

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I hate halls. I hate the trinket. I hate not having any bad luck protection to farm a shit item

vernal mulch
junior gale
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some people like to chase their feelings

vernal mulch
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do you prefer taking OF to not in keys?

sullen dove
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goober swordish shouldnt be allowed to buy bis gear from a boss he didnt suffer on

vernal mulch
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-1-2% ST for +1-2% AOE for OF and CS is worse than OF?

dense elbow
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OF is honestly not worth it, take it if you enjoy the button to press. But it does practically nothing

storm birch
junior gale
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do you like to press the OF button or not

languid willow
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Here is the rotation

sullen dove
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since bt is so bad

quiet breach
sullen dove
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should be shilling more gladge

languid willow
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Yea I meant to put the other one

sullen dove
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but yea is preference doesnt matter

languid willow
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My bad

junior gale
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Funky doesnt like it anymore because OF is cool now

olive wraith
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St is basically aoe rotation rn

junior gale
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He wants it all to himself

sullen dove
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can hit button if you want or use old talents and just change nothing about how you play

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real

languid willow
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I’ve played around with using capstones and not using capstones, if you aren’t using it Tr doesn’t justify me not pressing RB to prof RtS instead

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But that’s only if I’m not using capstones

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And I’m not

dense elbow
vernal mulch
olive wraith
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Tr is still good to press in aoe

sullen dove
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its good now...

junior gale
vernal mulch
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:/

sullen dove
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"good"

dense elbow
sullen dove
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big tech on bosses where ur forced to move off it

languid willow
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I still press it, in packs that exceed like 8 targets

sullen dove
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what does that mean

languid willow
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Otherwise I don’t care

junior gale
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I was playing OF for a bit then I swapped to this to try things out

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play around with diff stuff

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its a game

dense elbow
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Get fresh meat for opener

junior gale
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nah

dense elbow
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It makes it a lot more smooth in keys

junior gale
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im good

dense elbow
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Aight

junior gale
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I tried it a bit

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didnt feel any better or dif with how I play

sullen dove
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its only nice for deftless bladestorm

red berry
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yeah I honestly don’t really run into scenarios where I need fresh meat and having it feels a waste

sullen dove
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higher chance to have some amount of enrage coming out of bs

undone flower
red berry
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need to swap off of it

dense elbow
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Not a fan of ww, BT, storm?

sullen dove
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i rip hair

junior gale
sullen dove
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actually the stupidest human being on the planet

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not convinced a real human

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tbh

undone flower
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u have no hair

sullen dove
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ur right

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its been gone since dragonflight

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every time i had the misfortune of reading what he types

compact knot
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ngl

undone flower
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he is typing on wowhead since 2008, many hair lost in his path

compact knot
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only sentence he has ever typed that ive agreed with

sullen dove
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ok i didnt actually read it rare tomrus w cook

quiet breach
sullen dove
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yeah arakara would be better if mobs didnt take 50% less damage for 90 seconds of any pull with those mobs

olive wraith
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Sentry aren’t even bad

sullen dove
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yea idk the alarms are fine

quiet breach
sullen dove
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the big bug dr is just actually useless as fuck

olive wraith
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Yes

undone flower
olive wraith
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Check the news feed brother

quiet breach
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pog, time to look

sullen dove
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and makes killing the xalatath add impossible

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when its that week

olive wraith
sullen dove
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explode

olive wraith
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I don’t do those

dense elbow
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I was about to comment on how it would make the key less advanced, then I saw the 10 gang comment

naive latch
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I tried looking for a dedicated phys comp and they want me to play prot warr instead sadge

olive wraith
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Are ww/mw better than fury?

dense elbow
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Go prot war, get score, jump team monkahmm

olive wraith
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Seems wild

dense elbow
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Also, reason they want you to play Pwarrior, isn't because Fury is weaker or stronger. It is because they don't want the stress that is tank

undone flower
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i wonder if he commented under the bm buff post, since he plays hunter

olive wraith
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lol true

sullen tendon
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tomrus is from ukraine or something

olive wraith
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You need monk though

sullen tendon
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all his characters are in cyrilic names

sullen dove
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plays bm hunter gigabased

olive wraith
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Well, ā€œneedā€

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Feel like brew is the best of the 3 monks to slide in

dense elbow
sullen tendon
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since hes from EU I know hes a dumbass be default

dense elbow
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Why are you stalking him?

sullen tendon
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but a dumbass with reason

naive latch
inner zinc
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idc where hes from lmao, dudes always complaining and never happy about anything but hes too addicted to stop playing a game he seems to hate

dense elbow
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So.... He is like all of us?

inner zinc
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nah i dont hate this game

sullen tendon
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I already had close to 0 respect for EU players but as soon as they botted the season 4 tier set votes to be season 2 in DF it dropped to 0

dense elbow
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Bobby going hard on the ragebait today

sullen tendon
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is that ragebait?

dense elbow
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Looks like it, yeah

sullen tendon
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how so

naive latch
sullen tendon
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i dont have respect for players who are dumb AND cheat

inner zinc
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dont tell critcake, he'll be devastated

dense elbow
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You say all Europeans cheat and are dumb, and you you don't call that bait?

sullen tendon
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critcake was the one pushing season 2 set

undone flower
dense elbow
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Bobby is the stalker tho

sullen tendon
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yea

inner zinc
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funky got hit by friendly fire keks

sullen tendon
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i do research on people if i find them interesting

undone flower
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yeah it is weird, the thing i reposted is the first comment on the topic

dense elbow
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That is, not surpriseing, for your weird personality

sullen tendon
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maybe youre the stalker

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it feels like i have an adoring fan following me around

dense elbow
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Gaslighting already?

dense elbow
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You usually wait at least 10min

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When do you try to swap topic?

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Normally in like 5min

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But today ya off script

sullen tendon
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when you blab enough to make what we were talking about boring

dense elbow
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Uhuh

sullen tendon
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sorry we talked about tomrus guys

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too sensitive of a topic

undone flower
dense elbow
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Oh fuck

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I pick

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Happy

undone flower
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I pick

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OF

dense elbow
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OF sadge buffs when

olive wraith
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Bobby bait

plush zephyr
fallow otter
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Is it better to use the avatar and reckless sacrifice in macros together or use them separately because they are triggered together?

olive wraith
olive wraith
plush zephyr
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I have them separate but, honestly I don’t think I’ve ever pressed them outside of macro

fallow otter
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Wowhead says it's used together before rushing. Is there a place where I can refer to the rotation if I use it separately?

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simc?

dense elbow
olive wraith
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Rek gets cool down reduction so it’ll be off before avatar

summer quail
# sullen tendon how so

the "botted" part. don't get me wrong, people voted multiple times but the numbers were way too little to be bots

olive wraith
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You can basically use it on cooldown

sullen tendon
plush zephyr
sullen tendon
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the total votes were close to 4000 at the time

olive wraith
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8 hours isn’t a short amount of time

summer quail
dense elbow
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If you had 100 ppl like me, that is 1500 votes

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And I know others that went full degen

bright ledge
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hello awesome ppl

dense elbow
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Hello albedo

summer quail
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yea and with several streamers telling people to vote. i don't think 3000 votes in 8 hours is that unreasonable

dense elbow
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Bots, no. Pppl rigging the shit out of it? 100%

summer quail
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yupp

dense elbow
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I am sad to say tho, even with my hax... S1 set did not win

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I really really wanted to see the world burn

summer quail
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s1 set was fun tbf

dense elbow
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I wanted to see it be buffed to S3 levels of DPS keks

feral ivy
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which tank is the easiest to learn?

fluid pollen
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So is single target no longer using Bloodthirst as well?

olive wraith
olive wraith
sharp wasp
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is 70% mastery too much?

feral ivy
olive wraith
deep sapphire
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So is the AoE in general just better on Slayer now?

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Than Mountain Thane

feral ivy
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easier

olive wraith
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There’s some sims in there

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It’s pretty close

sleek parrot
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Do you guys just spam rb with overwhelmed in aoe or you still press execute when wa tells you?

livid lake
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Thane scales better with target count

deep sapphire
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Yeah I was looking at the sims just wanted to chat about it a bit. I guess it's because it's slightly worse in AoE but way better in ST that it is better in keys?

olive wraith
livid lake
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I’m fairly certain

olive wraith
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We should have voted for fun

sleek parrot
olive wraith
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It coulda been slayer alpha

summer quail
sullen dove
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huge fan of 25% crit to execute and 1% damage to raging blow

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what was fun

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u didn’t play with it period

summer quail
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lots of sd procs was fun

feral ivy
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only person i knew who played AM outside meta was noxxiv

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it was my personal hell when we had to switch to AM in s1

olive wraith
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Did we switch in s1?

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Idr doing that

feral ivy
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i know in raid 1 boss yea but i really dont remember

sullen dove
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Onslaught got buffed and ravager was added to AM halfway thru s1

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Think that was the main shifting point

livid lake
sullen dove
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before 10.0.5 rav was flat 90s cd

feral ivy
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broodtwister AM was meta

olive wraith
summer quail
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i think there's a disconnect between some people talking about Dragonflight s1 and some people talking about TWW s1|

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in this conversation

sullen dove
sleek parrot
sullen dove
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just at the cost of like 60% less dmg to 5 targets and single target

livid lake
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You also take more BT and subsequently bleed buffing talents with thane

sullen dove
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bleed buffing šŸ„€

livid lake
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It’s huge on roar in high target count

sullen dove
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prolly don’t take bloodborne no or do you

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just cshb

olive wraith
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No bloodborne

naive latch
summer quail
sullen dove
olive wraith
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Slayer also takes roar caps if they run odyns

livid lake
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Thane doesn’t take bloodborne danderson

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I guess I’m losing my mind

olive wraith
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No you’re right

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Thane doesn’t

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But no good way to spread bleeds efficiently

livid lake
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I thought it did

olive wraith
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It’s random

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Oh. No

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Sorry I thought you meant it didn’t

restive peak
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I've been taking roar caps without OF, seems to be performing better

remote haven
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How is the Meatcleaver even chosing which target it cleaves too?

restive peak
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Have been #1 in all my 17s and such

olive wraith
livid lake
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Yeah I initially thought it did but now I see it doesn’t. I haven’t tried Odyns slayer so idk how that plays. I like the standard M+ slayer build personally

restive peak
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OF is mostly for QOL, it doesn't do anything for dmg

olive wraith
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I’m on the fence still

restive peak
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Roar caps do because it's more roars that bypass our smaller cap

olive wraith
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I like of for some bosses with the ads

restive peak
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If you have BS up on the adds into reaps, it's legit more dmg than the OF global on 1st reap proc

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So while OF was fun and nice QOL, it just isn't actually stronger for anything

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But it's also not enough weaker that if you prefer it, it'll change much for timing etc

olive wraith
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You holding bs for adds?

restive peak
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I mean because of this set, if an add set is within like 10-15s I will

dense elbow
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If ya don't, ya won't reap em, now will ya Hydrate

restive peak
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Otherwise no, it comes up every 25-30s anyway

dense elbow
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Also, buff OF raw dam 200%+, ok thanks

olive wraith
steep fable
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are the sims already factoring in the future DISC belt nerf?
I finally got around to simming a heroic belt both natty and catalyzed and it is showing a massive upgrade of nearly 2%
Is this right!? If so, why didn't you fuckers say anything!? critcake

modest condor
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sims are based on the live game

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not what's gonna happen in 1.5 months

dense elbow
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Did you sim belt with haste and critical?

steep fable
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not haste I guess...I am mainly interested in the ST/patchwerk result

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I will try that too

restive peak
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So many people runnin crit belt still

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We love haste as this slayer build, swap to haste lol

dense elbow
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I just don't want to use a proc belt anymore, I want my static stats

pale cape
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As a Mountain Thane Fury Warrior, i struggle with single target damage but am fine with multi, any tips

junior gale
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do the samething you do in multi but in ST

dense elbow
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Not much you can do, minmax your ST rotation or go Slayer for more ST dam

steep fable
dense elbow
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BoE plate belt when?

plush zephyr
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Over and over and over and over

hushed gust
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it's the same rotation, just prioritize Thunder Blast, Bloodthirst when Enraged, Ramapge when you're not.

maiden lagoon
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Shouldn't my reap damage be higher than my RB dmg?

junior gale
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depends on dungeon and pull counts

hidden eagle
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At what item level do you replace the DISC belt? My buddy told me 715 but hes also a wafflecone lol

summer quail
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šŸ¤–

hidden eagle
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fuggin clankers always ruling the roost

summer quail
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all hail the robot

deep sapphire
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With the Slayer changes is Frenzied Enrage just better or do you pick between that and Powerful based off of your stats?

frank dawn
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they still sim super close in my experience, you can play the one you prefer

chilly fractal
earnest canyon
chilly fractal
orchid oyster
#

Do we switch to the new Slayer m+ build for soul hunters now?

deep sapphire
#

Mountain Thane is dead in raid

#

Sadge

earnest canyon
#

not if you play it it isnt

olive wraith
#

Thane is still playable for hunters

charred flint
#

shiet not getting invited anymore to finish my 14s

#

And my key is a priory which seems impossible to pug lmao

#

took me so long to beat the 13 one

modest condor
#

i had a really clean 14 halls and then someone died on pull on the 2nd boss with no bresses today :(

charred flint
#

Halls is another tight one right

modest condor
#

yeah

feral ivy
#

why was my picture deleted?

modest condor
#

probably the hardest one right now

#

but it's getting giga nerfed

charred flint
#

i failed a Dawnbreaker earlier today cause healer died 5 fucking times, but it was 5 seconds timer diff

#

Got the easy ones`s 14s done this week, both tavazeshs and eco

#

but im feeling good

#

tomorrow

#

i will drop the 2hander

#

im sure of it

lean heart
feral ivy
#

why are my pictures getting deleted?? its just my details numbers and stuff

charred flint
#

please god dont let me have no upgrades for 3 out of 4 weeks

modest condor
#

no idea

#

it's not showing in the modlog so it's not automod

lean heart
#

we killed forgeweaver this week that means im for sure getting da sword in vault right fellas ha ha

charred flint
#

Are you back to raiding sil, or nah

modest condor
#

nope

#

im enjoying not being forced to a weekly schedule

feral ivy
olive wraith
modest condor
#

gg

round dew
#

hey am i allowed to post my sim here and ask if someone can help me

feral ivy
#

so how bad is this tho

modest condor
#

sure

olive wraith
#

Seems fine

#

Idk

round dew
charred flint
#

cuz mastery do be really good

rose swift
#

If anyone gets a minute to have a look, ive posted a log in the help channel. Long story short I got some help a couple weeks back and went from single digit parses to just below 30. I'm happy with that but would ofc like to better myself and aim to get some purple before the season ends. Thanks for reading!

round dew
#

didnt know its THAT good because if i put on the sin stained pendant i will ahve mastery and haste overcap šŸ˜…

bitter palm
#

sim it

#

caps dont matter

round dew
languid willow
#

Robot tell the truth

#

Follow the robot

round dew
gusty cloak
#

too much rb?

feral ivy
languid willow
#

Do patchwork 8-2min

feral ivy
#

good in raid but bad in m+

round dew
languid willow
#

Might be more realistic as well

feral ivy
round dew
#

ooooooo

#

my only alternative is warpclaw

#

is that good?

languid willow
#

I think warpclaw might actually aim higher but I haven’t looked at bloodmallet since getting CSI

charred flint
#

no

#

warpclaw is bad

modest condor
#

i mean both are singletarget trinkets but arcanocore is actually good at singletarget

charred flint
#

u should farm pacemaker or idol

feral ivy
#

nah i would stick to eradicating for now but farm FG and HOA

round dew
#

yea i gotta farm a weapon anayways so floodgate is prob the go to šŸ˜…

feral ivy
#

i would farm FG for the wep as well

round dew
#

okay thank you :D

languid willow
charred flint
#

the shortage on the update thignys

#

is really annoying hu

#

huh

#

next week i COULD level 3 items to 723

#

but in reality i`ll probably be able to level one and a half

languid willow
#

I’m still praying for a myth weapon or fucking astral after killing forge this week

#

And I still haven’t seen one screams drop from raid on hc and we do clear every week šŸ™ƒ

charred flint
#

well a 723 arcanocore sims higher than the 710 screams i think

#

so no need to worry about it thath much

sullen dove
#

think screams good long st fights but otherwise eh

languid willow
#

So is astral/ arcano just better in these fights?

#

Been wanting to run the duo screams/arco

charred flint
#

at 723 screams is better for st but like by then you already beat the gaem who cares

languid willow
#

Yea true

earnest canyon
#

hmm...
"I'm kinda bored, wonder what random bgs are like these days"

limber oar
#

soul hunters down

languid willow
earnest canyon
limber oar
#

hm?

zealous pier
#

I hope blizz lets us keep this

#

I enjoy being happy

sullen dove
#

wowhead post was made about it

#

its gone by tomorrow

restive peak
#

Tm is a bit excessive...but yeaaaah

#

I would anticipate a small smack soon

languid willow
#

ā€œThey’re enjoying uncapped aoe you say?ā€ Fury warrior nerf by %5, frost dk seems to be in good spot and it’s following where we want it to be

sullen dove
#

think frost could use a buff actually

#

they havent been top dps for the last 4 seasons by a big enough margin

zealous pier
#

Sore got me for a second so I had to go check

languid willow
#

They were the meta slave class in s1

#

With enhance and Aug

#

Oh

#

I fell for it

sullen dove
#

aug was ass no

#

or u play for defensive

#

by wowhead post i meant the one talking about the hotfix change

languid willow
#

Yea

zealous pier
#

I know this positive change for the warrior community was unannounced

#

But I swear to god if they nerf it without it being in a post

sullen dove
#

any nerf def gonna be in a post

#

along with other classes probably

#

think the reason buff wasnt really in a post cuz it was supposed to have happened the whole time

inland flame
#

a post confirming its intentional would be nice just for comforts sake

sullen dove
#

its like a mechanical error

#

rather than any buff to an ability or something

restive peak
#

It's funny too because we still wouldn't have been in the RWF because of the damage amps, most likely

#

So really nerfing us is dumb as shit, but it's blizz, and we've been kept middle for ages

sullen dove
#

yea i mean who cares about more aoe in raid

restive peak
#

So we can hope, but odds are it'll happen

zealous pier
#

The only tuning they’ve announced has been BM, boomie, and Aug

sullen dove
#

little better on platforms for last 2 bosses

zealous pier
#

And blood dk

sullen dove
#

but they dont really matter

inland flame
#

As long as it isn't AoE on Ansurek, apparently

sullen dove
#

yea i mean ansurek was just dumb for having regular packs of like 20+ small hp targets

#

but think titans torment was mostly what was op then they changed it to the most worthless pile of dogshit ever created

#

like think if you put current fury on ansurek its prolly just about as good

zealous pier
#

I don’t think anything even really needs a nerf, so buffing the bottom seems solid. I’d want more consistency out of MM or something but other than that most classes feel pretty good. Also depends on content you do and goals I guess though

woven valley
#

Progging on araz and dear god I hate this fight

restive peak
#

BM bout to take over for hunters anyway

zealous pier
#

BM is a guilty pleasure of mine

#

So I’m happy.

earnest canyon
# restive peak BM bout to take over for hunters anyway

they nerfed the buff before the buff was released.....its like season 3 all over again where hunters on PTR were smashing everything and each week they ate nerfs to become the only class not in the RWF....at least warr got in on prot

manic mirage
#

at least warrior was there for WF

restive peak
#

I mean they nerfed the buff cuz hunters were fuckin sandbagging AGAIJN

zealous pier
#

That’s cap

restive peak
#

As soon as they announced the buff, hunters magically found another 6% dmg in their sims suddenly 6 weeks into the season

#

And it went from a like 14% buff to a 20% one

zealous pier
#

They nerfed the buff because sims found out they were gonna be top

restive peak
#

They do this to themselves with this

#

Because they redid the APL that that they had been sandbagging

earnest canyon
#

clearly wasnt enough to be brought to RWF though keks

floral sorrel
#

Ive got a legit question for anyone with AOTC here, on Dim p1, do you guys actually do the mechanics or just focus adds/boss? Cause the last several groups I was in I did the mechanics and got kicked cause my DPS was falling behind.

restive peak
#

The other 6% came from shit that was already in their specs, they just kept it hidden

zealous pier
#

Are you joking?

restive peak
#

Ever notice how we never suddenly find 6% damage in our sims?

#

Cuz the APL is made properly from minute 1

zealous pier
#

Your APL doesn’t have 9% variance lmao

restive peak
#

It's not a secret that Azor sandbags insanely, he tried to claim they were dobby tier before this tier

#

Wtf does MMs variance have to do with BM?

frank dawn
#

HUNTER DOBBY TIER GUYS

#

TRUST ME BRO

restive peak
#

That's the craziest goal post move I've ever seen

#

We're discussing BM

zealous pier
#

BM was dogshit

#

Still is single target

floral sorrel
woven valley
#

bm hunters reeee anytime they arent the best at everything

restive peak
#

No, it was low end, and it was simming 6% lower than it actually was because they were SANDBAGGING THE SIM TO GET BUFFS

zealous pier
#

M+ it goes crazy

woven valley
#

spec needs to be bottom

sullen dove
#

any world tomrus is happy is a bad world

restive peak
#

So you think they changed only those abilities, and they magically found another 6% from stuff that already existed on the same night it got announced?

#

Cool man, I'll tell you what, send me your credit card numbers and address/name, I promise I'll use them for good things bro

languid willow
restive peak
#

You can trust me

sullen dove
#

use them for buying keys w

restive peak
#

Exactly Swordy gets it

earnest canyon
#

whats the 6% you talk about anyway? bm is still super low in raids, and mm is some slot machine spec with super high variance. Much prefer the damage profile of fury

languid willow
restive peak
#

I'm not saying BM didn't need a buff

#

I'm saying blizz OVERBUFFED it because Azor was, for the like 40th time, sandbagging their sim until post buff

earnest canyon
#

dr is getting the huge buff, idk if the 4% to pack leader will make a diff

restive peak
#

When he suddenly found another 6% in the current abilities

floral sorrel
earnest canyon
#

on bm?

restive peak
#

Believe what you want I guess lol

#

Yers

zealous pier
#

This guy hasn’t ever seen sims have some kinda weird shit going on I guess. Maybe it’s because I haven’t played retail a super long time but in classic sim bugs happened all the time

restive peak
#

It's not a secret, there are hunter mains admitting this today

earnest canyon
#

bm is shit though outside of high keys (which i dont/cant do)

#

idk what they are admitting or what the 6% is

restive peak
#

Yeah I don't know anything about the sims or APLs lol, that must be it

zealous pier
#

Did I say that?

woven valley
#

bm is babys first spec, should never be really good

zealous pier
#

You’re purposely being obtuse

restive peak
#

Actually, you are

zealous pier
#

I said you’ve never seen sims have some kind of weird shit go on

restive peak
#

Azor is known for doing this, Banshers talked about it today, but sure, you know more than me and Banshers

compact knot
#

happening one time is sus, happening twice in one patch means you are doing it on purpose

zealous pier
#

Not that you don’t know how they work

restive peak
#

It doesn't happen on retail sims by the time we release

languid willow
compact knot
#

and its happened twice in one patch

restive peak
#

If you truly believe somehow ONLY hunters ever have this happen, again, I have a bridge to sell you

compact knot
#

warlocks do it a lot as well

earnest canyon
#

this bug? it got fixed 2 weeks ago and was apparently lowering dps....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Clcq9LFRVQ

being casual i just try a spec and if its fun and I do ok, I play it. Not really arsed how it plays if you are 100% perfect with it on some sim cos im never close to that

restive peak
#

Yeah, kalam is the other 1

floral sorrel
restive peak
#

No Bad, no

#

Anyway, when BM is busted tm, and gets smacked in 2 weeks, remember to come back and admit you were wrong

compact knot
#

my MM hunter this whole tier is switching to BM on the last boss purely because of how op it is

languid willow
compact knot
#

he hasnt geared or played BM a single time

#

this patch

#

but its good enough to just hit a fat 360 on dim mythic

zealous pier
#

Have you even looked at what the Hunter discord has posted? Because pretty sure that’s what got the 10% dropped to 8% and the buff of the bleak powder up to 80%

olive wraith
woven valley
compact knot
#

the nerf is irrelevant according to the hunter in my guild

woven valley
#

otherwise why play anything else

zealous pier
languid willow
#

Azo tried to argue that SS and magnetic GP were worthless talents and he found absolute 0 use for them anywhere in m+ or raid

#

And guess what

#

Here we are

#

Using SS and MGP

olive wraith
compact knot
restive peak
olive wraith
#

Fury is easy does that mean we should be nerfed right now cause we are good?

compact knot
#

there isnt really a reason for one spec to be bad or good because its easy

modest condor
#

every spec is easy

compact knot
#

^

quiet breach
languid willow
quiet breach
#

its basically an m+ buff

inland flame
#

there is parity on a level that a lot of players feel tho

compact knot
#

i literally switched to fdk after having (literally never) playing it and picked it up after 1 raid boss for orange parses at 705 ilvl

#

game = easy

tepid cedar
#

we getting asnother hidden buff tomorrow

#

so we ebat BMs

olive wraith
#

How funny would that be

compact knot
#

no mroe buffs or nerfs

#

just raid tuning

olive wraith
languid willow
#

Prob .5 buffs/nerfs think that’s about it

compact knot
#

they make reap the storm proc chance linear when cleaving

#

biggest buff

languid willow
#

I was laughing my ass off seeing the bdk buff to bone shield

compact knot
#

so its always 100%

tepid cedar
#

yea reap wil be 200%
asnd 35% cahnce

sullen dove
#

oh boy

#

thane 2

tepid cedar
#

or better yet, reap procs off execute as well

#

thats be doipe af

silent gazelle
#

Love to reap the storm

modest condor
#

remember s2 when we were the worst performing dps in m+ and we found out we were actually overperforming because seismic reverb was doing 70% damage instead of 30%

tepid cedar
#

lol

#

bring that shit backkkk but to work with slayer

modest condor
#

imagine having a positive bug and still being the worst dps

sullen dove
#

but prio damage last season

modest condor
#

i mean even if seismic was 70% on slayer it would still be weak as fuck

tepid cedar
#

hey its free dps

sullen dove
#

fury is good guys!!

#

play it over arms!!

modest condor
sullen dove
#

yeah

tepid cedar
#

sorelips, we dont use the A word in here

modest condor
#

at least this season we have prio damage, even before the tierset fix

tepid cedar
#

thatgs because we SCALE the best out of any class sil

inland flame
#

yea like the other day i got a tattoo on one of my shoulderlegs

round dew
raven oxide
#

is this trink really bad for fury?

young swan
#

yeah

raven oxide
#

can i ask why? cause it gives tons of strenght lmao

#

hehe

young swan
#

strength is just not good

sullen dove
#

does too much nothing for the 3 minutes it takes to build it up

young swan
#

that too

#

if we had big cd's it might be reasonable

sullen dove
#

maybe only potentially feasible on like a burn window but most bosses have either a small damage burn window or really short or both

#

and yea

#

0 cds

#

boring shi

#

like nexus king 100% dam 30s on dragon prolly the best place to use it

#

but even still eh

raven oxide
#

oh i see okok

olive wraith
#

But Reddit says we are one of the burstiest dps

sullen dove
#

idk who on earth would ever say that

compact knot
sullen dove
#

unless they are stuck in the past 10 months ago

olive wraith
#

It’s funny

compact knot
#

chatgpt is run off reddit

olive wraith
#

Go find it

#

And read through some comments

sullen dove
#

idk at least poster has a brain

olive wraith
#

Ya def

balmy shore
#

hi gamers is netherblast reflectable on salhadaar? :3

young swan
young swan
sullen dove
#

add platform cast

young swan
#

maybe

#

time to science

olive wraith
sullen dove
#

but also i think its crazy to comm "yo nobody kick this add if its targetting on me"

olive wraith
#

It got kinda buried with downvotes

balmy shore
#

i don't want to int prog :3

balmy shore
#

lmfao

sullen dove
#

surely kicks are locked down with 10 people on each side on 1 mob right

olive wraith
#

It’s a thread of people arguing about it

balmy shore
#

yeah it is

#

but what if big dam

young swan
balmy shore
#

i died looking at ball game

#

.

sullen dove
#

balls

balmy shore
#

balls

olive wraith
#

There’s a few of them that start from this comment

sullen dove
#

this website is so shit when its like 20 replies to eachother

#

cant read fucking anything

oak bear
#

they dont understand fastest burst not = highest burst

sullen dove
#

think fury burst now is pretty good combo of fast and high

modest condor
#

fury is also not bursty right now

rare garnet
#

is sack of terror good? always worried about trinkets that need to stack but seems to sim well?

sullen dove
#

like it gets from 0 to 100 in like a solid 10 seconds and stays that way for a while

#

its just not like 90% upfront damage like devoker

olive wraith
#

Ya we get to our ā€œtopā€ fairly quick

#

And just sit there forever

dapper goblet
#

praying these warrior nerfs come through tomorrow

#

mt

sullen dove
#

praying you are forced to eat the bbq brisket whopper

olive wraith
#

That sounds good

#

Is it misleading

sullen dove
#

think its just odd to expect brisket from a fast food place

#

but i think it was more like pulled pork

#

was still fine

young swan
#

"bbq brisket" and its just pulled beef

sullen dove
#

poggers

earnest canyon
sullen dove
#

bacon king still better

woven valley
#

now i want bbq

rare garnet
#

crushed hotdog do sound good

earnest canyon
#

make some!

#

im eating a protein bar (again)

tepid cedar
#

damn jsut blasted a ara 16

#

not bad for not having a 723 weapon lol

slim coral
#

I'M FUCKING FREE

#

LETS FUCKING GOOOO

young swan
#

huge

#

gz

tepid cedar
smoky vale
#

gz

#

show crank

slim coral
#

THANK YOU BOYS

young swan
#

bottom fragging sub rouge...

smoky vale
#

you still have that buyer mage in there...

balmy shore
tepid cedar
young swan
#

theres like 3 different "soul" bosses

slim coral
smoky vale
proven stream
balmy shore
#

ā¤ļø

dapper goblet
deep plover
#

Is our Slayer M+ rotation pretty much the same as the Raid one? Not really hitting Blood Thirst unless everything else is on CD?

smoky vale
#

not exactly

rose bay
#

Got forgeweaver today!

#

dog i have no idea what the fuck im doing on this spec

slim coral
#

no one does

#

we just spam rb and hope for procs

toxic jewel
#

is thane still the move for soul hunters?

worn rain
modest condor
rose bay
#

I just feel like im fucking up tremendously ill check my cast after raid and compare em to everyone else

dense fulcrum
edgy widget
slim coral
toxic jewel
#

roger that capt

#

slayer it is

edgy widget
sullen dove
worn rain
earnest canyon
#

why cant i get into battlegrounds, does noone do pvp at all anymore?

sullen dove
#

yea this shit is outdated YoureCondemned

quiet breach
#

got a question, does the one at the bottom mean thats my worst time and il prolly get the most io for upgrading it?

sullen dove
#

probably

#

but everything at 12s

#

thats like a

#

3-5 pt difference max

#

maybe not even

earnest canyon
#

i wish I had all 12s

sullen dove
#

are blood dks terrible at getting aggro

#

idk if i should be mad at the class or the guy

earnest canyon
#

I think they are the lowest dps tank? but idk about threat....

#

you should just be made in general

#

*mad

candid mesa
#

blood threat seems fine. I full send when playing with bdk friend and never have issues

#

but maybe my dmg is just dog šŸ™ƒ

hallow sphinx
slim coral
#

@hallow sphinx I owned you and apoook on nexus king

#

W

sullen dove
#

wow no way

slim coral
sullen dove
#

im sure they were also the 2nd dps in their kill

hallow sphinx
#

consider it luck

#

wont

slim coral
#

are you saying you were sick?

hallow sphinx
#

yea i didnt play great on nexus

slim coral
#

hope you feel better bud

hallow sphinx
#

cough during the shadow clones its gg

slim coral
stoic star
#

Do any of yall use TWW DUNGEONS Weakaura Pack + CausesDB?

#

Ive heard some guildys say they got rid of it and it really helped reduce the amount of CPU being used

#

and its constantly giving me LUA Error pop ups on my screen

earnest canyon
#

you shouldnt get lua error popups even if you get lua errors - use bug grabber and bugsack

#

had no issues except i wish some things were more obvious and others less so

feral ivy
#

Should I buy a modem or rent one from spectrum also do I buy a modem and router or one that’s 2 in 1

peak aurora
#

I have spectrum I bought my own modem and router and they work fine

earnest canyon
#

isp modem/routers vary wildly, but very few people need the features offered by high end routers, and you pay way more for "high end" features

#

im just using my isp modem/router combo and it does the basic stuff I want like QoS, port redirection, basic perf metrics

#

and it was free

feral ivy
#

Idk what you just said lol idk anything about that stuff

vital shore
#

Hello people. Is it me or does reaping from raging blow not show up in sims? I don't see in the damage breakdown.

earnest canyon
#

im saying your isp one is probably fine, especially if you dont have to pay for it

winter shoal
#

I know Arma said he was looking into changing how it was reported but idk if he got around to it

#

He attached the proc to the RB offhand hit I think

rose bay
#

Gratz!

earnest canyon
#

ty

vital shore
proud leaf
winter shoal
#

If you have 4pc

covert coyote
#

i just found out you can SR the impale from knights in PSF? how does that make sense

proud leaf
devout zodiac
#

I currently just have full mastery > haste gems, when I sim max colours on raidbots and it says +(number) dps is it better than my current gems? Or is it just showing me the best combination, if that makes sense

rose bay
#

question, on fractilis, is breaking his knockback with leap an ok thing to do? or does it fuck walls?

hardy cargo
#

if u dont hit the wall with ur body u dont break it

rose bay
#

:3

#

fuck

#

ty

young swan
#

just try it

#

someone was saying they tried and it was fine

rose bay
#

did! ill check the vod later

young swan
#

but idk if they were lying

rose bay
#

yeah i tried and it loookjed fine

#

but ill check the vod after

tepid cedar
#

finallllyyyy.... pugging thiese shitsd have been quite " entertaining"

rich flame
#

i cant seem to do the op aoe damage u guys are doing, do we keep slamming RB even if we overcap to maximize reap?

proven stream
#

Yes, just rampage for enrage

rich flame
#

oh thats why my reap isnt top in my breakdown

rose bay
hardy cargo
#

hmm ok then I lied to you my bad xd

tepid cedar
hardy cargo
#

I couldve swore the one time I tried I didnt break a wall but perhaps there were 2 and I didnt realize

tepid cedar
#

this was my 16 psf. it wouldent proc for shit

#

absolutely dog ass water reap procs

rose bay
#

all good better safet hen sorry

rich flame
#

is there a breaking point where we start going reap mode or we do it from 2t?

fading sky
tepid cedar
#

this is what hurts

#

as fury

fading sky
#

Make sure u have bladestorm for new packs

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And get enuff cdr. Use mfe stacks if we got some big mobs in a pack u wanna burn down

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Fury is easy now as well but loads of feelycraft, based on key levels

winter shoal
winter shoal
olive wraith
finite pewter
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Hey so can someone give a breakdown of the new rotation for slayer? is there somewhere that has it

olive wraith
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Wowhead

tepid cedar
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that was my run vs farovers r1. we finshed 2 min faster, which is why he has some more cast. rng can be a bitccchhh

finite pewter
winter shoal
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Yeah that's a wowhead guide angle

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That's not even new rotation stuff

olive wraith
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Come back and ask questions if stuff doesn’t make sense

bright ledge
limber oar
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If youre still asking that after reading the wowhead guide