fury

[pearl sequoia]

yerp

[viral shore]

I know, it seems just like the conditions are met way to often for it to actually matter to have a wa for it.

[ashen geyser]

Astral antenna is a trap isn't it

[pearl sequoia]

if u run away from the orbs i guess so

[ashen geyser]

Orbs only last 10 seconds and slowly crawl even if you try to chase them

Feel like pacemaker is bigger bang for buck

[tropic veldt]

is this talent actually any good

[ashen geyser]

30 seconds

[bright ledge]

lol how, send import of build pls <3

[onyx sonnet]

this would go hard in eco dome no? cause shield mobs

[bright ledge]

[bitter palm]

droppable

dan was playing

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898695696482305/1413069184971309056/image.png?ex=68ba96bb&is=68b9453b&hm=62b406009c5be611ea0056bc6d98dc22f866d3395a11e4efe9f927b1206ca2aa&

@smoky vale hi

/cast Bloodbath

/cast Rampage

[edgy widget]

So I removed this from the multitarget, however in practice you do still wanna snipe Marks off dying targets

[edgy widget]

yeah it's fine in a few dungeons - you don't use it frequently enough to make a big impact, but its nice when you can

Wrecking Throw is also a decent ranged filler even against non-shields (cause it ignores armor)

[edgy widget]

the main build in #1273899855852339200 drops it and CSHB for Critical Thinking

• it's around -0.2% ST for +1.1% MT

the build is also @maiden copper tested and approved!

[rich veldt]

DID WE SURVIVE THE NIGHT

ARE WE STILL GAMING

[bright ledge]

nice vegeta pic

[edgy widget]

you shoulda seen him before the buff!

[summer zephyr]

if you take Odyns fury - do you ever press it in ST?

[astral rover]

hey guys what are good M+ combo trinkets for fury?

[bright ledge]

[hardy vault]

Slayer mm+, in aoe after 10 stack of overwhel, spam RB or exec conditions wa prio ?

[heavy dock]

Do you guys actually ever press bloodthirst. I did a dungeon where i think i clicked BT a total of like 3 times

Im feeling like taking the bt talent is just a waste

[uneven path]

You really dont, same as exe for MT

[heavy dock]

Rb resets happen very frequently

[uneven path]

Whihc one ?

[heavy dock]

From this, the 10% more bt dmg randomly

[uneven path]

tbh there isnt anything else to take

[edgy widget]

it is

[heavy dock]

I feel like fresh meat could be more of a qol pick there

[edgy widget]

absolutely take Fresh Meat if it feels more comfortable to you

[dense elbow]

You kinda want the talent after that BT one, no?

[edgy widget]

na, I dropped Focus in Chaos from the build yesterday - its been very devalued (especially in multitarget)

[heavy dock]

Is it a good pick to take the enraged regen talent if you go higher keys maybe and need tankiness

[uneven path]

Blizzard manged to shift away from BT once again on Slury

[heavy dock]

I mean good, slury was always a rb spec imo

And thane is the bt one

[edgy widget]

yeah it's not a bad idea

[south kayak]

This channel has never been this active before

[uneven path]

idk in past they seemed to try push for you pressing BT on Slury as well

[heavy dock]

Just 1 more day till we get hotfix nerfed

[dense elbow]

We ain't over performing, so doubt that

[heavy dock]

I guess we are saved by not being top dps in raid

Like in s1

[radiant plank]

Holy balls this reap the storm buff is insane!

[south kayak]

Lmao

[edgy widget]

so there was an early design philosophy of making BT a more "standardized" button that gets used regularly, but over time they started trying to differentiate Slayer and Thane playstyles... not a lot but just enough to make them feel distinct (e.g. Execute vs Thunder Blast)

That turned into Thane focusing on BT and Slayer focusing on RB, and here we are

[dense elbow]

Isn't that just the old reap for arms slayer?

[south kayak]

It is, he’s memeing

[edgy widget]

fwiw, I don't think it's bad either - I was initially against the full RB focus of Slayer, but after playing both heroes a lot, I kind of enjoy that they each have a different focus

[radiant plank]

the fuck im not

before it was below BS

[south kayak]

Interesting

[uneven path]

I know just saying they shifted away from S1 philosophy

[lofty herald]

Any general idea of what stats to get on boe head, or just a sim angle

[radiant plank]

sim

prolly versa + x

[iron portal]

When i run into pack and i dont have stacks yet nor cds ip yet i do , but other than that no

Also when i want to live

[edgy widget]

Yeah, it's just kinda how things happen. I actually think it's a really interesting example of how people often desire change of some sort, but don't really ever know what they want until they see it

hence all the cries for an undefined "rework" every time the spec isn't at the top of its game, but no real idea of what it should entail

[lofty herald]

ye heavy mastery/haste + vers does sim best

was just making sure ty

[south kayak]

I just don’t like the fact that raging blow does so much more damage than rampage, it feels like rampage is just the enabler so you can get enrage. Rampage also feels like a builder, not a spender

[edgy widget]

user name checks out

[dense elbow]

Rampage seems a bit biased

[south kayak]

Lmao

Got me

[dense elbow]

Guess they could buff SS to give you what you want

[hardy vault]

Hello ! Slayer mm+, in aoe after 10 stack of overwhel, spam RB or exec conditions wa prio ?

[smoky vale]

streets

[south kayak]

That still incentivises RB spam

I don’t mind it as much as I used to

[heavy dock]

all i want from rework is just a bloodlust effect for us xd

[smoky vale]

hi are we playing ra yet

[uneven path]

True but I think we saw a lot of ppl with cool ideas for reworks with big scale, also I am not against having MT BT oriented and Slury RB. Plus this change they made, makes me like pressing RB again, it went from chore to fun.

[edgy widget]

in all seriousness though - I understand and sympathize; there are a lot of reasons that RB is so heavily emphasized (both its own damage and things like Slaughtering Strikes)

however I think the real culprit is the runaway rage generation, especially with the new found focus on Execute

• Consider that if we did prioritize Rampage, the amount of rage gen would result in us pressing it a lot, to the point where we'd hardly have time to use RB as much, which causes opposite problems

[south kayak]

What if we had drums baseline

[edgy widget]

tbf ideas are easy, balancing them against 90 other things is a lot harder - I send them dozens of ideas, just kinda throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks, even though I know most of them will never come to fruition (no matter how good I feel like they are)

[hollow juniper]

Im in love with this build

[fleet sorrel]

beast mode

[chrome plover]

the build in updates?

[uneven path]

Enjoy till you can

[hollow juniper]

Yes exact same

[smoky vale]

i feel like i do 0 outside of cds

[hollow juniper]

Reap the storm doing insane

[smoky vale]

prob has to do with me playing double on use

[thorn shale]

how we treat rage overcapping now (as long as enraged)?

[hollow juniper]

You guys think it will get nerf?

[south kayak]

I’ve grown to enjoy this RB spam but I do hope they have something different in store for expansion

[smoky vale]

@fleet sorrel can you watch me do a key and see what tf im doign wrong

[fleet sorrel]

on twitch or what

[iron portal]

Box evolved to Rampage. Soon he will evolve to RB

[smoky vale]

here

can do yt

[iron portal]

So first two letters of his names will combine

I call that poetry

[hollow leaf]

100%

[iron portal]

I hope not

[hollow leaf]

This is oppressively strong rn

[edgy widget]

my perspective is still that RA vs AM is the best place for that

• AM encouraging Rampage first for CDR
• RA encouraging CB/BB spam (while they're available) over Rampage

[fleet sorrel]

link yt ill peep it tomorrow or over weekend

[edgy widget]

but I gotta be honest - the whole point of Rampage is to maintain Enrage
yes rage waste feels awkward, but as long as we're maintaining Enrage... Rampage has done its job

[fleet sorrel]

can also come if room in key

[hollow leaf]

I share danwarr's thoughts, I don't think they'll revert the change but I definitely think they're nerfing the damage of the tier

[iron portal]

Would be nice to have IP back

[heavy dock]

they need to make reck a bit stronger so it makes sense to prio rampage over anything on AM builds

[south kayak]

They’d have to make the cdr stronger or something and RA is still under tuned

[hollow leaf]

Maybe 150% to 125 or even 100%

[iron portal]

We do have excess rage

[heavy dock]

100% would absolutely kill it

hella overnerf

[hollow leaf]

Don't think so

[edgy widget]

yeah I already asked them that if it does need a nerf, leave the interaction and take Reap's bonus damage down instead (and ideally refund a little single target, since that will be impacted)

[fleet sorrel]

@smoky vale

unlucky

[edgy widget]

not saying it will happen, but

[heavy dock]

taking 1 billion dmg off from a reap the storm that did 2bil overall?

[fleet sorrel]

game freeze will fuck your dps

[heavy dock]

how isnt that a lot

[smoky vale]

i legit froze alt tabbing back in

[iron portal]

But is it really that busted when we compare other outliers?

[south kayak]

Your math is wrong

[heavy dock]

well more like 600 mil but still

[iron portal]

Genuine question

[heavy dock]

its still a gigantic nerf

[hollow leaf]

Depends, frost for instance has insane upfront burst, fury has insane sustain

[iron portal]

Yea we are not touching that burst

[heavy dock]

is it really that bad for the class with 0 utility to do top dmg :D

[edgy widget]

even if RB triggered a regular 100% damage reap, it would still put Slayer out ahead of where it was last week, simply because of focusing RB intead of BT

[hollow leaf]

Reap's damage is overtuned right now and you're able to keep your damage the same really through maintenance of overwhelmed through reap

[heavy dock]

yea but then its back to thane as best for m+ no?

[proud vessel]

Really appreciate all the awesome work and time you put into this, hope you get enough appreciation

[hollow leaf]

🤷‍♂️

[edgy widget]

maybe, but that's not necessarily a bad thing

[heavy dock]

i mean its not, i like playing than true

[edgy widget]

especially considering Slayer is already prioritized more in raid

anyway, yall are really jumping ahead of yourselves here

just enjoy it while it lasts

[hollow leaf]

Sir this is skyhold

[queen panther]

True

[edgy widget]

and take comfort in knowing that you're still not as good as DKs

[hollow leaf]

All we do is sandbag and doom

[smoky vale]

clueless

[queen panther]

I'm enjoying being a perma bayblade kek

[smoky vale]

i just got smacked by gajeel

it wasnt even close

[iron portal]

Gajeeel you say

Does he like iron

[heavy dock]

by who

gajeeeeel?

[smoky vale]

jill knees

[hollow leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/singing-fairy-tail-song-gif-22031088

[edgy widget]

sir you've been here for like 5m, go back to the kids table

[iron portal]

Lol

[dense elbow]

Wait, we presume we will get nerfed, when we are only keeping up with the rest?

[south kayak]

I ened to get 4p before this gets nerfed (if it even does)

[iron portal]

As intended funky

[hollow leaf]

Go back to the wheelchair grandpa

[iron portal]

Shouldnt be problem tbh

Unless you are mega unlucky

[stoic echo]

why are people so scared of being nerfed

just play what you have fun with

[edgy widget]

I mean, Fury is doing better than keeping up, but it's certainly not blowing everything else out of the water

[iron portal]

Cause it happened too often this expac@stoic echo

[south kayak]

Dude, guess what happened yesterday

[radiant plank]

reaping my storm @bitter palm

[stoic echo]

and? Will that stop you from playing fury?

[ashen geyser]

Antenna will

Such a trap

[iron portal]

You had moment when you WANTED to play warrior?

[queen panther]

deletes warrior

[ashen geyser]

Sims high, boring af

[stoic echo]

every time warrior gets nerfed, he deletes his char

[iron portal]

Its not trap then

It is just that you dont like it

[queen panther]

lmaoo

[potent thicket]

watching reap of the storm animation on my warrior draenai is like watching a tall muscleddude doing ballerina dance.

[ashen geyser]

NUH UH

How dare you speak so factually true Raz

How dare you

[edgy widget]

a lot of people's impressions get skewed by watching Critcake demolish randos, but outlaw, frost dk, havoc, destro, assa, demo, and feral are all still competing very well

I would seriously not let the hype train go to your head - yes Slayer has gotten very strong, but it's not king of the hill just yet

[south kayak]

I made a normal group to try to get a zenith token but I invited an evoker who was grouped with a tank thinking he had 4p (he didn't). So it was just me and him as zenith users, guess who got the one tier token that dropped?

[iron portal]

[potent thicket]

slayer's so fun to play.

i wonder how's arms slayer doing?

[queen panther]

I'm just spinning to win right now. It's fun.

[lilac kettle]

made a 2/4/14 group with only me being the zenith token user. None dropped.

[hollow juniper]

I hope slayer will not get nerf..

[stoic echo]

https://tenor.com/view/tiktok-shaquille-shaq-timeout-ethical-gif-9311067668442735802

[south kayak]

That's gotta sting

[chilly plume]

Me and a guildy are both dracthyr fury warr, watching us sync up and go spinny spin is great fun

[edgy widget]

not half bad #fury message

[potent thicket]

yoo thats cool

[dense elbow]

Meh, if we get nerfed in a way Archi 'sorta suggests', even if not needed at all. Slayer will remain alright, and at least better than before

Makes my season a bit less painful

[potent thicket]

thank you, i would try but my crit is down to..17-18% ;-;

and how the hell do i get my haste down below 30% :))

[chilly plume]

oh yeah thats something i didnt think about, did arms get any fun new stuff with the change?

[dense elbow]

WalE seems to spread the good word, but not sure if he is meme'ing

[radiant plank]

and the slarms boss dmg goes crazy

[iron portal]

Heh

[edgy widget]

I mean this is kinda like pissing into the wind, but I would highly recommend not worrying so much about what may come and just enjoy today while its still here

[chilly plume]

interesting details name

[south kayak]

Karma

[edgy widget]

worry about what happens tomorrow when/if it comes

[south kayak]

Interesting nickname

[iron portal]

For not sticking to warrior yes

[foggy urchin]

ok ngl, fury's reap the storms is actually insane

[south kayak]

True

[foggy urchin]

like legit just nuts. i love it lol

[edgy widget]

yeah it pumps, fun too

[dense elbow]

Dont worry, when it gets nerfed. I will pray for you, as you drown in doomer pings about "is slayer/warrior dead now"

[hollow juniper]

Exactly

[hearty zinc]

Do i undestand this right, as Fury Slayer in M+ i always use Raging Blow now, and Bloodthrist only if Raging Blow is on Cooldown. Single Target aswell as Multitarget?

[hollow juniper]

So satisfying

[smoky vale]

pauck details name

[foggy urchin]

the zug is zugging hard. pog

[hollow juniper]

Bliz dont nerf pls, go nerf locks🥺

[foggy urchin]

yea literally nerf paladins

[dense elbow]

And bright side, they nerf reap, OF value goes up!

[foggy urchin]

screw those guys

[edgy widget]

yes, but you only prio RB if you have Overwhelm stacked (usually off of Bladestorm), if you don't then prioritize BT until you do

[hollow juniper]

My pala did almost 9m overall at 10 floodgate. Yet they buffed by %5 all dmg

[queen panther]

lol not the OF value

[south kayak]

what's with brew damage lmao

[heavy dock]

the only fans value..

[radiant plank]

thanks

[ashen geyser]

pad

[edgy widget]

never heard that joke before...

[dense elbow]

Brew in the right hands is a DPS atm, always has been

[hollow juniper]

I literally left pala coz of it feels like cheating. Its just absurd

[ashen geyser]

Ret is pure pad

Pad cause bad

[heavy dock]

my brain just cant read odyns fury when i read of lol

[ashen geyser]

The class*

[queen panther]

The brain rot is bad

[foggy urchin]

ret pala op any other answer is cope

[queen panther]

Feels bad

True warrior

[cobalt relic]

all gg

gg

[south kayak]

what

[cobalt relic]

@south kayak gg

[south kayak]

@cobalt relic gg

[cobalt relic]

gg...

[heavy dock]

when im talking to my ret pala friend and they say they just bubble away any mechanic in the big BL pull at start of some dungeons lol

[queen panther]

gee gee

[heavy dock]

and i have to dodge all the fkin swirlies and go out of melee range

truly a moment

[hollow juniper]

Ret players still want buffs lol

[crystal radish]

Even with the new hotfix, mountain theme for m+, BT stills prio to RB right ?

[astral rover]

how do ppl push 20m on adds

[hollow juniper]

🧠

[foggy urchin]

ret players are ranged melee class. they do not abide by melee mechanics

[cobalt relic]

@crystal radish yes

[foggy urchin]

they can literally cast every ability from range

[hollow juniper]

Like surv hunter

[queen panther]

Just bayblade let it rip

[south kayak]

is feral playing claw

[dense elbow]

Nothing changed for MT, dont worry, they still just clappin and BTin having fun

[crystal radish]

Thanks

[foggy urchin]

ew. h*nters

[ashen geyser]

By being good

Knowing when the maximize dam

[cobalt relic]

ur welcome bby

[ashen geyser]

Knowing when things will take the most damage.

Not randomly bursting CDs for no reason

[foggy urchin]

btw guys slayer fury goes for OF now?

[sour frigate]

Basically fury gameplay for years

[gleaming siren]

@warm crag where's the updated guide

[dense elbow]

if you want to, as per usual

[heavy dock]

you can if you want

[foggy urchin]

a, i see

[heavy dock]

of is more aoe, less ST

[foggy urchin]

cheers

[ashen geyser]

So what's the ST option over OF

[pale zephyr]

the bloodthirst talents you aren't going to use anyways

[foggy urchin]

[ashen geyser]

🙂 love it

[foggy urchin]

shame onslaught isn't good. Always liked it but never been good

[heavy dock]

isnt deft experience what u take over it?

that one atleast gives mastery

over just useless bt stuff

[pale zephyr]

Not our proudest moment but S1 dragonflight IIRC

[foggy urchin]

yea in S1 DF it was bonkers

[heavy dock]

wasnt it season 2 dragonflight

for onslaught?

s1 was RA iirc

[foggy urchin]

who remembers this stuff

[heavy dock]

with odyns

[foggy urchin]

all I know is that, at some point in DF, onslaught was very zug zug

[last lichen]

Yea think so

[pale zephyr]

I wasn't even using tier in S1

[hollow juniper]

As fury do you guys also struggle to dps at floodgate dung? Its just a bit annoying to me my fps drops to 12-15 at first pull with bl

[foggy urchin]

buy new cpu. It's what I did and solved it.

[cobalt relic]

what about ara kara 1st pull@hollow juniper

[foggy urchin]

[last lichen]

btw sorry to pummel intterupt does slayer m+ build now use Odyns Fury?

[cobalt relic]

or psf 1st pull@hollow juniper

[earnest canyon]

What cpu do you have?

[foggy urchin]

went from a ryzen 7 5700x to a ryzen 7 7800x3d

[hollow juniper]

Well my fps is biggest enemy. I have below 30 fps all time in dungs

[pale zephyr]

Yeah, easy opener

[lapis coyote]

How would talents look like for slayer fury be in M+ now with at hotfix?

[cobalt relic]

or@hollow juniper gambit 1st pull

[hollow juniper]

Gotta buy new cpu. Currently using i3 10100f

[heavy dock]

getting an x3d cpu helps immensely on wow ive noticed

[foggy urchin]

from 20-30fps in massive pulls with BL to 140-150 in a total clusterf**k

[earnest canyon]

Noice

[foggy urchin]

in raids I used to have also ~30-40 in combat. now it's a steady 110+

[cobalt relic]

[hollow juniper]

Basically i do trash dps at every dung with first pull bl

[foggy urchin]

no ragrets

[hollow juniper]

At flodgate barely 16-17 m aoen

[heavy dock]

i still drop to 50-60 fps with ryzen 9800 x3d in 30man raids tho

[hollow juniper]

Hard to play with 13 fps

[foggy urchin]

huh

do you play on 4K res?

[bright ledge]

Wow is mainly CPU than GPU

[heavy dock]

no

2k

[foggy urchin]

well I do

[hollow juniper]

Which cpu u guys would suggest for pfp

[foggy urchin]

7800x3d

best for buck cpu imo

[hollow juniper]

Will check it

[foggy urchin]

it costs some chunk but its worth the penny

[hollow juniper]

Works with any gpu right? Im not good at tech

[foggy urchin]

the biggest problem however is making sure you have an AM5 motherboard, which if you don't it's an extra 200 euros

[earnest canyon]

Yes

[foggy urchin]

ye ye

[bright ledge]

I run ryzen 7 9700X and it goes perfect in frames raid and mythic

[hollow juniper]

But i think i need to change motherboard? My cpu is intel now

[earnest canyon]

Yes

[foggy urchin]

you surely do

so, in order to equip bis 7800x3d, you need AM5 motherboard

[hollow juniper]

Thank you, will save that text. Will buy a new computer in a month

[foggy urchin]

AM(X) like am4, am5 etc are amd only motherboards. I forgor what architecture intel has tho

haven't been using that trash since 2016

[hollow juniper]

I dont need like 5080 5090 right ? Just need average gpu but strong cpu

[heavy dock]

intel is big doodoo for a while so dont worry about it

[foggy urchin]

well, yes

[heavy dock]

theyve gone more for graphic design than gaming

[hollow juniper]

The only game i play is wow

[radiant plank]

specifically x3d

[foggy urchin]

the entire problem surfaces because WoW devs are noobs and can't quite handle particles and effects correctly

particles and effects are cpu related

(because blizzard)

[bright ledge]

id recommend using chatgpt for building, you just put whatever are your goals like playing wow at 605fps and he will tell you what parts match with others etc

[foggy urchin]

no don't do that. ChatGPT is r*tarded

either ask a profesional friend that has knowledge, speak openly about him for ur needs, budget etc

[bright ledge]

I used it for mine and im perfect lol

[foggy urchin]

or go to a professional

[hollow juniper]

Oh thank you guys🫡

[foggy urchin]

and use pcpartbuilder

[heavy dock]

wouldnt say its too bad

[earnest canyon]

9800x3d is bis atm

[foggy urchin]

minor improvement for a huge cost increase wouldn't call it bis

[earnest canyon]

For gaming anyway

[heavy dock]

well thats exactly what bis is right

[foggy urchin]

fair point I guess

[heavy dock]

going from crafted 720 wep to 723 wep is minor upgrade but better

[foggy urchin]

well I like getting the best price:perf ratio, so that's on me. but by "bis" definition, you are correct

[heady wedge]

Yo is slayer better now?

[foggy urchin]

slayer is login my man

[ornate gust]

So what’s the highest overall dps right now? Thane or Slayer w/OF?

[heady wedge]

I stop playing fury cuz i dont like thane

[foggy urchin]

try simming it

[earnest canyon]

I paid $1000 for a cpu in 2014 so even with inflation my 9800x3d was cheap

[heady wedge]

But if slayer IS good again ill get back

[heavy dock]

slayer with onlyfans technically does higher overalls in big pull dungeons

[foggy urchin]

true true

[ornate gust]

What’s about dungeon overall?

[foggy urchin]

I mean my cpu was pretty much about $450

[heavy dock]

wtf kinda monster cpu did u get for that price in 2014

[fleet sorrel]

@smoky vale gg

you were smurfing

[heavy dock]

what i said

[earnest canyon]

5960x...ive had 8cores/16 threads for over a decade

[pale zephyr]

Idk but i thought the occasional neverending thunder blast procs felt good

[heavy dock]

oh wow lol

[smoky vale]

imma just send on cd until i do 19s

[foggy urchin]

back in those days, that cpu used to bottleneck gpu's lol

[smoky vale]

cba thinking man

[fleet sorrel]

i dont like double on use

but havent messed with it really

[smoky vale]

netherprism is really really strong

[fleet sorrel]

yeah

its nuts

[smoky vale]

lets you araz araz at 2:00 for 2:15 pillar netherprism

[foggy urchin]

but it requires brain my man... and a keybind too

that's already 200% more than I can afford to give for a trinket

[smoky vale]

good thing one of my trinkets is already bound

[foggy urchin]

well I macro my trinkets into the zugzug button

but i believe sending prism on cd isn't good

[iron portal]

I wish that Halls trinket had no cast time

[ornate gust]

Got it. Thanks

[dawn quarry]

Amen 🙏

[foggy urchin]

i wish name change on wow was $5 instead of $10

the temptation to name my warrior Zuggymczugzug is immense

[iron portal]

Back in my day

[unreal onyx]

Not using halls trinket bc cast time

[iron portal]

There was no name change

[foggy urchin]

👴

[iron portal]

Jealous arent you

[unreal onyx]

Back when you were stuck with the name you gave yourself when you were 12

[iron portal]

Well yes

This name

[foggy urchin]

lol

im glad that's not the case. my old name still haunts me

the cringe is ever seeping underneath my skin

[iron portal]

This is name of my first character

[foggy urchin]

creeping into the back of my mind and clawing at my sanity

[iron portal]

And it shall stay till i die

I aint embarassed

[unreal onyx]

My old old name is cringe, but my new, current name also is but on purpose

[foggy urchin]

that's because your name aint cringe

[iron portal]

Cringe but with class

[foggy urchin]

well not much I can say about mine. bout a year ago I figured rogues have an ability called kingsbane

but until then I thought I was an original

[unreal onyx]

Lolxd with my alt Xdlol

[unreal onyx]

Or my Lolxdh and Lolxdk

[foggy urchin]

hahah

[earnest canyon]

I wish I had wow when I was 12 lol

[foggy urchin]

my warrior rn is called "Svarlord" which shoulda been "Swordlord" had the name not been taken

bastards

[iron portal]

You kids and your names

[unreal onyx]

I had an account on a free P-server in wotlk when I was like 9

[ashen geyser]

Old man

[edgy widget]

alright I need to go to bed for a few hours - don't go too crazy, be helpful, direct people to #updates-midnight, #dps-faq, and #1273899855852339200

and don't worry so much about "what if" nerfs - just enjoy it while it lasts and let come what may

[unreal onyx]

🫡

[iron portal]

If it wont last till i get home i will smack someone

[foggy urchin]

ey c'mon, nothing says zugzug more than swordlord

[ashen geyser]

It was unannounced so they might not even know it or care

[graceful rapids]

question regarding M araz, anyone that has progged this boss do you think slayer is a good pick now over Thane or is the burst AOE to valuable

[smoky vale]

gn archimtiros

[foggy urchin]

gn archi

[edgy widget]

oh they know

[earnest canyon]

Smack your boss, then you can be home 24hrs (or in jail ) 👍

[unreal onyx]

So m+ slayer aoe is basically rb rb rb rb ramp rb rb rb rb

With the Occasional ww

[iron portal]

Well till you have stacks , bt procs more often

[tight roost]

Ramp bs rbrbrbrbrb

[iron portal]

I actually did do BT when we were pulling new pack and i had no cds and stack built up

[dense elbow]

And you guys think we gonna get nerfed? Pah!

[ashen geyser]

Trying to pug a 14?

Nerf fury

5% across the board

Need to remind us of our place

[unreal onyx]

At least

[dense elbow]

I cant fight the math, the math checks out, it is math mathing, that is fair

[dense elbow]

Join it

dew it

[iron portal]

Old ss

From week ago or so

[ashen geyser]

I know, that's the joke

In reference to the uh

"Nerf fury" shortly after

I managed to pug to 14.

[stoic echo]

love to see a tank dc here

[smoky vale]

you have 8m

swap to prot

[heavy dock]

plenty time to come back

[cobalt relic]

all gg

[clever belfry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1406564095775473714/schmidirot.gif?ex=68baa765&is=68b955e5&hm=2c935d002f914b38b315659592bf920ecf1bf65b8e8a775ac617132b35dd21e5&

[azure hill]

Not even using WW in rotation for m+ atm?

[stoic echo]

gg

dungeon dead

[smoky vale]

you didnt swap prot did you

[hardy vault]

Hey! With the new Slayer M+ build, in AoE after 10 stacks of Overwhelm, should we prioritize Rampage or execute conditions (with WA)?

[stoic echo]

🙂

anlakki

only took an hour to get into a key

[gleaming siren]

who's this handsome devil

[clever belfry]

wouldnt know him

[smoky vale]

@gleaming siren

[compact siren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1406564095775473714/schmidirot.gif

[iron portal]

Ofc you do lol

Otherwise you would be just ST bot

[gleaming siren]

If you didn't you also wouldn't benefit from the unannounced buff

[eternal compass]

if i recraft my wrists do i keep the socket? its already crafted with new spark but only hero

[sour frigate]

Yes

[eternal compass]

ok so only when i switched the spark i lost the socket

thanks

[molten kayak]

I was so confused why reap the storm was perma proccing last night

[iron portal]

No

Wait

You got socket already this season

Or from last season

[eternal compass]

i have the socket from this season but idk if i should use it or keep until i have wrist max recraft

[iron portal]

If you got that socket this season , you will keep the socket

[hardy vault]

Hey! With the new Slayer M+ build, in AoE after 10 stacks of Overwhelm, should we prioritize RB or execute conditions (with WA)?

[eternal compass]

okok so its good

[iron portal]

#updates-midnight message

You still use execute to consume stacks

But most of the time you will be cleaving RB

[hardy vault]

I have a feeling we should just spam RB after bs (10 stacks of overwhelm all targets), and don't press execute but okay

[hollow leaf]

you still care about bladestorm cdr

bladestorm fucks

[iron portal]

You didnt specify after bs

After bs we did rbs spam anyway

[heavy dock]

is it actually worth sending uncleaved execute to save a stack for sending more RB lol

[iron portal]

And what seen said

[hardy vault]

yes but after butal finish ?

[hardy vault]

thanks, i forgot about this

[gloomy minnow]

is this shadow buff accually making slayer fury making a funnel dps ? cause more targets with overwhelm stacks = more reapingstorms ?

[iron portal]

Kinda

[wary smelt]

did our straight ST talents change any?

[cobalt relic]

gg

[flat river]

whats up guys

[hollow leaf]

no

[wary smelt]

ty

[hard cradle]

odyn's tree in m+, OF as just more strong whirlwind, and RB is better than BT?

[south kayak]

yo

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/catto-gif-17643687004817745866

[pliant fulcrum]

So RB over Excecute?

[flat river]

no

[iron portal]

Pure st is still the same

[iron portal]

You still follow prio, you just dont use BT IN AOE Much anymore

[flat river]

if u have 2+ stacks of marked for execution

use execute

or if juggernaut is about to go off (3 seconds remaining)

or if sudden death is 2 stacks and about to go off (3 seconds remaining)

if target is below 20% HP, use execute when the target has 1+ stacks of marked for execution

[fiery tide]

so what dungeons do we run slayer/mt now? im guessing streets and db is more a slayer key and priory is mt? because of the pull sizes

[iron portal]

Try and see. Streets i would go slayer though at this point

[flat river]

street defintly, not sure about DB though

[fiery tide]

im going to try it in a ara kara

slayer that is

[warm umbra]

Slayer in all content

[heavy dock]

i dont think this is the case in aoe anymore

[last lichen]

What is juggernaut?

[stoic echo]

yeah psure you only wanna use it on 3 stacks in aoe now

to not overcap

[stoic kindle]

i did a quick +12 with a 7m overall yesterday, was better than earlier thane

[sullen rune]

Does the execute conditions WA need updating or does the pre-hotfix version still hold true in M+?

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-nowords-nathan-fillion-nevermind-gif-3534534

[polar narwhal]

Nothing changed.

[stoic echo]

tbf I think slayer fury requires good mob knowledge, maybe I'm coping though

[heavy dock]

things for sure changed in aoe

[stoic echo]

I find it way harder to play slayer fury than col arms on huge packs

cause you really have to keep the GCD ticking permanently without any interruptions while not dying

I'm not hitting the huge numbers on massive packs yet cause there's too much going on for me to consistently get it done

[molten kayak]

Mainly i like slayer alot more than thane so maybe it could be played in more keys now

[devout zodiac]

What talents are you guys running after the 4p change? Seeing a lot of different ones going around

[thick fossil]

Get enraged, bladestorm, whirlwind, RB, rampage to keep enrage, that's about it.

[south kayak]

You know what this reminds me of

BFA fury in M+

idk which season

but fury was really good

2?

[thick fossil]

Season 2

[abstract obsidian]

Guys, what would you suggest to do, I already crafted 720 wep and 704 free wrists, all my stuff is already 704-723, would you consider upgrading the wrists to 720? Or upgrade most pieces and craft a 720 next week?

[thick fossil]

It feels like S2 shadowlands, so much spin to win.

[sour frigate]

Based

[south kayak]

Yeah, instead of spamming WW, it's raging blow

[iron portal]

Also third season

[south kayak]

Outlaw was also like meta then too

[iron portal]

Cause cshb was cranked

[tranquil hedge]

reap the storm got nerf 😄 ?

[frail escarp]

guys on big pulls, is it better to keep spamming RB to fish for Reap the Storm or should i still dump rage for rampage on big pulls?

[wheat lantern]

i am lost in the sauce on a big pull bois need help

for slayer

[radiant plank]

select a target with high hp

use cds

keep up ww

[oblique trail]

@clever belfry

[radiant plank]

rampage to refresh enrage or to not overcap rage

press RB

send Exe when WA go kaching

[clever belfry]

@oblique trail57

[rich veldt]

Based

[somber river]

After 4p BUFF, when is it worth using execute ? Only ST ?

[radiant plank]

kaching

weakaura

[dense elbow]

ye, we might get nerfed remember 5% of his dam is my dam

[heavy dock]

wdym with that last part

[radiant plank]

shout

[dense elbow]

[heavy dock]

a well prob not 5% but yeh

[glad coyote]

what WA?

[heavy dock]

well its about time we top dps smh

[radiant plank]

in dps faq

[dense elbow]

well, 5% of his dam minus whatever %value of trinkies/effects I guess

[glad coyote]

Fury Slayer Sudden Death Conditions

[heavy dock]

the question is

[radiant plank]

yes

[heavy dock]

is it updated tho

[radiant plank]

yes

[glad coyote]

updated aug 28th 2025

[radiant plank]

yes

[heavy dock]

aug 28 was before hotfix

[radiant plank]

whats there to update

when the hotfix is for raging blow

[clear anvil]

any reason why reap does so little dmg on my character's sims whereas it does over 15% of my overall in keys? sorry if this has been answered

[radiant plank]

its working like it should

[heavy dock]

im sure in aoe its actually more worth to use rb than 2 stack execute

[glad coyote]

raidbots might not be updated? idk

[radiant plank]

Use lateast

[storm birch]

Well if that’s frost it’s really only buffing his oblit right? Unless he’s playing obliterated build

I’ve heard BS is barely an increase for FDK

[heavy dock]

i mean everything scales with attack power

doesnt it

[dense elbow]

They do indeed scale on AP

[storm birch]

OR

[clear anvil]

archi says it is

[storm birch]

oops caps

Maybe that’s just for mystic touch idk

[glad coyote]

gotcha,

[storm birch]

I don’t know anything about FDK 🤣

[glad coyote]

maybe your not spec'd correctly or something

[heavy dock]

most likely that

[maiden hearth]

mystic is specifically phys

[slate yacht]

What % buff is the hotfix?
More or less.
Has anyone calcd it already?

[hollow leaf]

10 halls

[maiden hearth]

so fdk benefits less

[storm birch]

Believe it was said 10% in AoE

[slate yacht]

Ty

[storm birch]

To the previous slayer ^^

[hollow badger]

Do you gusy think it wil get nerfed

[iron portal]

Maybe

But nothing is 100% sure

[hollow badger]

ooc, in aoe even if we meet execte conditions im assuming we prio raging blow over it for reap procs right? and then rampage to keep enrage yo

up*

[radiant plank]

Still need to press it for bs cdr

[hollow badger]

ahh tyty

APM is actualy crazy to executre ragng rampage and whirlwind off cd lol

[warm umbra]

With or without odyns

[wheat lantern]

so confused with slayer and dunno why, prob how fast WW stacks go and im frozed on what to do between execute or rampage

first time playing the spec , anything should be slightly higher?

10 floodgate

[hollow leaf]

without

[warm umbra]

Sick

Sometimes reap is my top or equal to rb

But that looks right to me most of the time

Execute should be higher

I think?

[wheat lantern]

yeah thats the part im froze on between keeping WW up , kachings , and RBs

not in the memory yet

[heavy dock]

i think execute is in the spot it should be

[warm umbra]

Maybe

[heavy dock]

reap/rb/ramp/bs should be top 4

[warm umbra]

Maybe i kaching too often

I follow weakaura

In most scenarios

[heavy dock]

im kinda thinking weakaura spams kaching too much on aoe

im thinking if its worth it to send uncleaved execute for stacks to keep more ww stacks for RB lmao

[wheat lantern]

like if im pressing RB , my WW runs out , reapply WW, kaching goes out , i have raging blows left , rampage ready , then im lost

[hoary agate]

Does anyone have a WA for spell deflection on Nexus king mythic pls?

[warm umbra]

Just practice

U can delay execute in aoe but i would never let it run out

U wanna have ur cds back asap

[coarse nest]

Still worth to play for BS cdr

Never want to start a pack without BS available if you can help it

[lavish quail]

i cant find the hotfix about slayer can anyone send it please

[warm umbra]

Dude its in the #updates-midnight

[alpine steppe]

Top Loom mythic log doesnt press roar until 2:50 in fight.

Should I replicate this chat?

[warm umbra]

Yes

Its a filler

In st

[uneven path]

1.5 min filler

[coarse nest]

Sadly that is true 😂

[warm umbra]

Its when u have nothing to press but u dont wanna BT

[alpine steppe]

hmm I see

too used to old muscle memory I guess

[coarse nest]

No set time toot, you roar as a low priority filler

[chrome summit]

Whats the deal with Slayer fury now if u can explain to a noob. For mplus. U blow cds when r. Whitlwhind to cleave and spam rb as much as u can? Just rampage to keep enrage? Never played Slayer but i see ppl say its top now

[warm umbra]

Enraged bladestorm on start of new pack

Meat cleaver RB spam

[wheat lantern]

when we sending roar or odyn ?

[warm umbra]

Maintain enrage and meatcleaver while u keep spamming RB while also having stacked overwhelmed on all targets

Use exercute with weakaura kaching sound

Last part is debatable

[midnight sierra]

[warm umbra]

It seems not all agree

[hoary agate]

on nexus king its the behead and banishment casts you can SR right?

[warm umbra]

Roar - CDs - odyns - Bladestorm

If u run odyns

[chrome summit]

Ok ty will test when i get home. 🙂 is builds on sites up to date?

[warm umbra]

If not replace odyns with rampage

Check #updates-midnight it will give u guides

I think

[gleaming siren]

And Vanquish technically

but just dont get hit

[latent steeple]

Is there a kaching like weak aura for ww? I keep dropping my meat cleaver stacks

[fiery tide]

do we even care about rampage at all as slayer in m+, do we just press it to maintain enrage otherwise spam rb regardless or rage?

[queen marten]

Thats something i wanna know too

[tepid cedar]

There’s a misconception about playing this properly

You are not just “spamming rb”

[fiery tide]

I was watching crit yesterday playing slayer and it seemed like he only pressed rampage to maintain enrage for the most part

[celest sierra]

Bruh all these YouTubers need to stop making vids about this RB hot fix lmao and saying if it was intentional or not . Blizz boutta slap us

[tepid cedar]

Rampage is still important as so is execute

[iron portal]

They know about it

[celest sierra]

Obviously , I’m just making Fury humor

[fiery tide]

well yes, obv you still press execute and cds and such, it just the rampage part that ive seen being discussed alot

[tepid cedar]

Do it when ur enrage is about to falln

[uneven furnace]

Is this the new build multitarget Slayer since last updates?
I would like to know for Araz MM tonight if I should use these talents:

CgEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQjhZmNzMMjBzswMzMmhZYmttZGzMzCmxMzMmZsMMYmZAAAQM22GYBMBzwEYwGA

[tepid cedar]

Obviously when no rb stacks

[celest sierra]

Yo apoc ima dm you

[tepid cedar]

Ok

[fast mural]

Clearly some people just get infinite RB charges so they forget to use ramp

[celest sierra]

That’s good tho with this hotfjx no ? Priotize RB over Rampage no ?

[mossy fox]

Yeah it's easy to get overly hyped after seeing yesterday's stream, but I believe I'm still gonna get beaten by my team's fdk and ret in overall dam

[tepid cedar]

If lucky yes

But if you drop enrage ur already trolling

If ur not speeding up ur bs and reck cdr as well as building MFE stacks

[celest sierra]

All do respect Critcake , I hardly doubt u could keep up with any frost dk with the current tuning . And that’s not a U problem that’s a blizzard tuning problem

[tepid cedar]

You can’t

We shit on them st though

But I had a few 30+++ mil pulls and dks and Elle can beat us

[celest sierra]

Did a 13 yesrjrdah and this frost dk was holding 35-40m AOE but yeh on bosses I destroyed him

[tepid cedar]

But comes to boss+4t we annihilate them

It makes us compete now

[celest sierra]

And I don’t even have 4 piece yet

[eternal sundial]

Noober smh

[mighty patio]

bro please can you link the talents you did this with , and is it the new slayer ? been trying it out but ive never spiked that high

[thick fossil]

I did a 14 Priory with Slayer Fury yesterday. I was able to keep up with the Ele Shaman and Ret. Ele got 8 PIs, Ret got 4.

So Slayer is really good. Just hope it doesn't get nerfed.

[iron portal]

Well us getting PI is waste anyway

[celest sierra]

I was doing slayer with 2 piece and tbh it already felt better then thane

Even tho the buff is from 4 piece

[heavy sparrow]

How strong is the 4 p?

[mossy fox]

very

[thick fossil]

Thane 4pc is extremely strong.

[heavy sparrow]

The 2 piece is not great i think

Most of the power is in the 4 p

[celest sierra]

Not as strong as slayer 4 piece now after the hotfix

Slayer has taken over in all content

[heavy sparrow]

What happened?

I just really don't like bladestorm

[hollow leaf]

finally got stone idol

[wary smelt]

Ravager feels like wet noodles no sauce

[hollow leaf]

#updates-midnight

[heavy dock]

Why

[warm umbra]

Only problem with this build is there is 3 buttons you really wanna press but u can only press 1 at the time

[hollow leaf]

we don't gain anything from it

[iron portal]

^

Really small gain

[maiden hearth]

i mean you gain

[iron portal]

Negligable

[maiden hearth]

just not as much as ele would

[heavy dock]

Less gcd more dmg

[maiden hearth]

yeah but a gain is a gain

[heavy dock]

More raging blow

[maiden hearth]

you cant say you gain nothing xd

[heavy dock]

I always felt rly good when i got it

[iron portal]

Still a waste when others get much more

Hence my original comment

[maiden hearth]

Yes by comparison to ele or other classes you might

[heavy dock]

What does ele get, faster cast time so more chain lightning , rod tempest?

[iron portal]

We are already reaching high haste numbers

[maiden hearth]

more CL means more fast eb into eq

[wary smelt]

Not even in the top 20 specs for PI but it has benefit

[warm umbra]

Fury is nearly the worst person u can possibly give a PI

Outlaw prob only worse

[iron portal]

Or Brewmaster

[wary smelt]

Outlaw is def worse

[iron portal]

Brew wins

[celest sierra]

What’s our overall best trinkets rn

[iron portal]

Antenna prob

Both st and m+ wise

[maiden hearth]

theres a lot of good trinkets

[warm umbra]

Arcanocore good

[iron portal]

You work with what you have

[warm umbra]

Egg decent

[warm crag]

Grrrr

[celest sierra]

Rn I’m stuck using house of cards and so’leah

[maiden hearth]

antenna, arcanocore, screams, sacbrood, idol, seaforium

screams more so st than multi tho

[hollow leaf]

house of cards isn't necessarily that bad at 684

[verbal bough]

i just woke up did they nerd it yet ? or we good

[celest sierra]

Lmao 671

[hollow leaf]

we good

[warm umbra]

Im running arcanocore mythic with her sacbrood and blasting

[verbal bough]

thank god

[celest sierra]

They actually removed our 4 piece and made us a 2 piece class

[hollow leaf]

going into nk tonight, I'm running hc screams and idol

just using idol for the platforms

[maiden hearth]

snagged myth arcano and sac this week

[queen marten]

Short question.

Do we swap the belt now because of the nerfs, to a hero track one ?

[hollow leaf]

[potent thicket]

isn't the nerfs when turbo boosts starts ?11.2.5?

[iron portal]

?

[celest sierra]

Dumbest thing ever lol. They said the belt would be good this whole patch

[iron portal]

When did they say that

[warm umbra]

They nerfed it when?

[iron portal]

Also you can rock it whole season if you want

[celest sierra]

When they announced it . They basically said that it would be good throughout the patch

[iron portal]

Cercei also got outclassed eventually by mythic track items

[warm umbra]

But it will be

[iron portal]

It is still good and will be for majority of people

[warm umbra]

High end mythic content isnt their target audience

Mate

[hollow leaf]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/manaforge-omega-belts-arent-useless-anymore-378417

11.2.5

[coarse nest]

Just means the mythic belt I was given will probably be an upgrade now

[iron portal]

Ok but you get higher max for hero track

So why would you complain

[warm umbra]

If my hero belt sims 100k more than delve belt

What could be wrong with my sim

[celest sierra]

For Odyns fury what talents we dropping to take it ? All the BT ones right ?

[coarse nest]

Cshb BC DE

Then go right side into OF

[celest sierra]

🫡

[coarse nest]

Goodluck Goodluck!

OF owns

[maiden hearth]

whats the prio for the of build in keys

[hoary agate]

deflects vanquish? the tank soak?

worth doing if it splits damage with tank?

[gleaming siren]

Vanquish is the frontal

Conquer is the soak

[hoary agate]

oh ye

[slate sun]

How would you sim your trinkets for forge/soulbinder? To represent the target count

[coarse nest]

You play the same with or without OF
OF just replaces a WW whenever it’s available to refresh meatcleaver

I like to use it initially on pull after charge if mobs are grouped quickly to get enraged and give the first set of meatcleaver

[ornate gust]

Is OF soft capped ?

I can’t remember how it works

[coarse nest]

Past 8 targets iirc

[dense elbow]

Past 5 you freaking poser

Any true OF fan knows this

[coarse nest]

Lmao damn I got got

[ornate gust]

Ok ok thanks

[coarse nest]

Must have been 8 before the season 1 reckoning

[wheat lantern]

its alright to not run odyns as well ? the extra keybind feels like butt hole

[dense elbow]

it was, ye

the nerfs hit hard and fast

[coarse nest]

Yes optional preference

Little more aoe with OF in trade for ST and vice versa

[dense elbow]

You can safely skip OF, ya prob get more value from not having it if ya dont like OF's QoL grant on opener/burst

[coarse nest]

Definitely feels weird to not have DE if you rely on the BT extension during BS

[ornate gust]

I believe OF and BS should be 8 targets

[coarse nest]

Without DE you must refresh ramp before BS

[wheat lantern]

I usually have my pop cds , charge , cast sequence WW while charging and opening

should i remove the macro ?

[tranquil jetty]

Hang on

Did fury get hotfixed

[coarse nest]

Ye they fixed raging blow procing reap only on one hit instead of every hit like intended

[hollow leaf]

#updates-midnight

[ornate gust]

No need for cast sequence. Just /cast charge /cast ww

[coarse nest]

It cranks now

[wheat lantern]

so i dont need to use /castsequence reset=target/3 Charge, Whirlwind

or same concept

works nice , chatgpt made it lmao , figured id ask

[coarse nest]

Damn

ChatGPT making macros too

[hot rampart]

is this a slayer thing? is that a talent or tierset thing, I can't find anything

[wheat lantern]

its from 4piece

[coarse nest]

Yes it’s the tier set effect

Slayer

[wheat lantern]

was 20% on a target i think

[plush zephyr]

#updates-midnight @hot rampart

[wheat lantern]

now its aoe 20% each hit on each enemy

[warm umbra]

Up to 67%

[ionic ermine]

I’m geared with mostly crit and haste from tanking. Raid lead might switch me to dps because we have a low dps wanting to tank (he’s a good tank, just didn’t really click with feral).

How much will my secondaries gimp me? Should I just go arms?

[warm crag]

sounds like at the level you're at it won't really be a concern, you'll be able to play fury with any gear and if you will stick to it you will naturally get better pieces that fury wants

[wheat lantern]

I dunno about you all but this season i got a shit load of belts and necks to choose from , jesus. what a collection

rings on the other hand , nothing

[warm umbra]

Have we hit a sweetspot for fury or is it too good

[hollow leaf]

bit overtuned

but it's a good change regardless if they tune it down a bit

since we'll still be prioritizing rb over bt it's a net gain from last week

[warm umbra]

Hopefully it hits the radar and we wont be brownlisted from m+ pug grps

[hollow leaf]

I mean they let unholy dk be what it was all of last season

[hot rampart]

I'm just trying to figure out if it makes me switch off Arms

I like Arms 🙁

[wheat lantern]

qued up for 23 10+s and not a single inv , meanwhile i could blast all their dps easily

[serene moat]

would we play Slayer MT an Araz mythic now?

[coarse nest]

You don’t have to switch off arms if you enjoy it

[proper onyx]

i plan on trying it for reclear tomorrow on araz

[hollow leaf]

I liked it

Did good damage

[wheat lantern]

see I hate arms with a passion , you wouldnt catch me dead on arms

[hollow leaf]

sadly I got every mechanic under the sun and couldn't hit adds

but I still did good damage

[warm umbra]

Wdym slayer MT

[proper onyx]

i assume it doesn't do as much on b2b add sets when you can only bladestorm one

since the 2nd wont have overwhelmed up

[hollow leaf]

depends how lucky you get

but ye

it's the same thing for thane though

you're just going to be dry for some of them

[narrow fossil]

is simulation craft updated? It sims me more for thane than slayer

[proper onyx]

yeah i guess just thane usually has at least a couple blasts for each

[hollow leaf]

it's updated

[narrow fossil]

So thane is better for m+?

Idk why it sims me more

[hollow leaf]

no

slayer better

[warm umbra]

New slayer goes hard on demon hunters boss ye?

[hollow leaf]

ye

I fucked hard on it

[warm umbra]

Cant wait

[hollow leaf]

thane's damage is too rng

and its rng is not reliable

[thick fossil]

Yes, I'm aware.

[thick fossil]

This right here is why I like Slayer so much more now. Reap is so consistent for being a proc.

[narrow fossil]

So better slayer?

[hollow leaf]

ye

[serene moat]

stasndard slayer MT build with imp WW. since 4p scales now with target count, it should perform rlly good at Araz

[thick fossil]

As long as it's not nerfed, we'll be competitive.

[serene moat]

a minor decrease in AOE with a major gain in ST

[hollow leaf]

In a 10 stacks on 5 targets gives RB a combined 67% chance to trigger reap, just like BT. 5 stacks on 5 targets is only 40%. Bladestorm gives you 5-8 stacks, depending on Imminent Demise

[thick fossil]

Just sucks if you have to run spear for that fight.

[hollow leaf]

it's very consistent

[thick fossil]

I hate that talent and having to hold it.

[hollow leaf]

you realize slayer and mt are different hero trees right

there's no such thing as slayer mt

[serene moat]

multi target ^^

[hollow leaf]

ah okay

[serene moat]

[hollow leaf]

[serene moat]

im sorry

[wheat lantern]

[hollow leaf]

it's fine

[thick fossil]

Too many acronyms.

[wheat lantern]

on opener are we not pressing roar , looking at my sim rotation roar is way way way down

[thick fossil]

It's like the military, 15 acronyms for the same thing.

[wheat lantern]

just a super filler ?

[proper onyx]

👍

[fiery tide]

in single target, roar is just a glorified filler

[hollow leaf]

on st it's under a naked bt

on aoe it's one of your highest prios

[drifting token]

think as long as its pressed at some point within avatar's duration its prob fine

[warm umbra]

I always press roar over bt

Guess thats messed up

[hollow leaf]

bt is above roar in apl

but I doubt it's very relevant

[wheat lantern]

ahhh bet , for aoe send it after the enrage bladestorm , rb , rampage opener ?

or before

[warm umbra]

Before

[hollow leaf]

before

[warm umbra]

First global

[wheat lantern]

roar into enrage then BS

[warm umbra]

Yea

[fiery tide]

tha apl does it that way

[wheat lantern]

kk sweet that gets 1 of my confusions down pat

[warm umbra]

Roar cds of/ramp bs rb

Something like that

[wheat lantern]

ill skip OF , not running it

[fiery tide]

ww before enrage I think

for multi targets

[wheat lantern]

yeah i have that in my charge macro

[hollow leaf]

yes

you'd want your ramp to cleave as well

[warm umbra]

Yeah if ur not running odyns

Ww before

[hollow leaf]

running this on nk tonight let's see if we get a kill

[wheat lantern]

CDs , charge(WW while charging sequence) , roar , Rampage , BS , RB until enrage falls off ?

[radiant plank]

i recommend repairing

before nk

[wheat lantern]

and im assuming refresh WW in between that if before i send ramp ?

[hollow leaf]

I recommend a knuckle sandwich

[hollow leaf]

yeah on aoe maintaining ww stacks is highest prio

[warm umbra]

Cant go very wrong with that

[wheat lantern]

even over a kaching exe ?

[hollow leaf]

ye

[maiden hearth]

i think rb > exe

feel better number wise

and prio exe end of pack if you dont have bs up yet

[onyx linden]

Still played thane, feels better, at least for me

[wheat lantern]

lots of stuff getting answered , lit. I miss thane but also just need some practice

[maiden hearth]

played badly in a 12 fg but had ~10m leaving swampface

[proper onyx]

Execute seems wasted a lot of the time since you're only getting up 1 bs per pack since it's so much better to have at the start of a pull for overwhelmed

[warm umbra]

Thane is cringe

[hollow leaf]

nvm exe conditional is higher if jugg is about to expire or your SD is about to expire

[fiery tide]

every time I played thane on araz I barely get any thunder blast procs on the adds, feelsbad

[warm umbra]

Ravager awful

[onyx linden]

Nah, u cringe

[warm umbra]

But its rng

[wheat lantern]

so hold exe until it almost falls ? and I have RBs send WWs RBs and ramps

[maiden hearth]

thane feels ok but having 4set rng high roll on a boss and not a lust pull is cringe

[wheat lantern]

or im out of RBs

[hollow leaf]

dan in a 16 fg

[maiden hearth]

yeah dan is better than me

and its a 16 🙁