fury

[digital arrow]

bro the top one is multi target, the bottom is single target .. its not 15 mil multi vs 4 mil multi

[blissful delta]

nah spongie read it rigth bro slayer is only at 4m

[digital arrow]

its 15 mil multiv vs 15mil multi, and 4 mil ST vs 3.X mil ST

[wet locust]

I mean against my better judgement I hit bt

[frank dawn]

Odyns is still dog shit, but the new slayer build just lets BT be equally dog shit if you really want to play OF

[brittle crow]

theres ur problem

..

[hard widget]

@restive peak sexy mofo, what is this i saw?! SLAYER?!

[wet locust]

??

it procs off bt?

[brittle crow]

no bt

rb only

[wet locust]

🙈

[undone flower]

I think 3/4 hero trees are passives

[wet locust]

god bt is such a waste of a gcd, gonna be sent to the nether realm like heroic stirke at this rate

[hollow leaf]

we used to wanna press bt in aoe because it was 20% x 5 for bt and only 20% for rb to proc reap, now it's 20% x however many targets you hit with rb

so not really a point in pressing bt anymore

[blissful delta]

taking fresh meat in a non bt build is crazy put the points somewhere else Kappa

[hollow leaf]

oh right

yeah this build was cooked before this change

[frank dawn]

Fresh meat actually feels better than you think when you have 0 points in deft

[hollow leaf]

yeah that was the reasoning

🤷‍♂️

[wet locust]

what you really need

[warm crag]

It says right there thane 20 mil slayer 3 mil its not even competetive

[wet locust]

is vicious contempt

[hollow leaf]

so real

[blissful delta]

lmfao

[wet locust]

..bloodborne exists with an rng bleed, interesting

[digital arrow]

yeah u got me, they should deffo buff reap now

[wet locust]

never really looked at the fury tree but jesus

[digital arrow]

otherwise close the discord

[blissful delta]

we should honestly

these unintended buffs arent enough

[warm crag]

They should make the 4p proc off of cleaved rbs like bts work

[gleaming siren]

They really should

Great idea Spongie

[wet locust]

even if its better dam ww spam is..not it

[hollow leaf]

pretty sure it does no?

[hardy cargo]

That would be really cool

[warm crag]

Its really weird that it just doesnt. Maybe thatll make slayer playable in +7s (my highest key!)

[hardy cargo]

Can you be our new dev sponge

[hollow leaf]

ok bro stop flexing not all of us have premades to play with !!!

[hard widget]

Coach me senpai

[blissful delta]

We believe in you Spongie

[gleaming siren]

You aren't ready for Spongie's coaching

[hard widget]

I know 🙁

[gleaming siren]

It's a grueling experience

[undone flower]

That would be cool if thane BTs TB % proc can be cleaved too

[wet locust]

has onslaught ever been used?

[gleaming siren]

And you'll come out a changed man

[wet locust]

wasnt it a wod talent?

[hollow leaf]

yes

when it used to give close to 100% reck uptime

[spare steppe]

So question, why would the slayer m+ build change with the reap change? Isn’t it just change rotation more than anything?

[tepid cedar]

You guys sure bit been updated. Just looked at apl after a sim and it still the same thing as before

[warm crag]

My coaching and nothing else got u into nsky

[hollow leaf]

aoe or st

[gleaming siren]

And then I played Evoker and none of it mattered

...

[digital arrow]

hekili > coaching

[sudden tusk]

[gleaming siren]

[tepid cedar]

Aoe

[hollow leaf]

https://imgur.com/fxHJqS7

[gleaming siren]

At least I get to be a good little role player on Dimmy dimma dome owner of the Dimmsdale dimma dome and hit the adds

[brittle crow]

remember that time very briefly at the start of this season where we kinda cared about our rage

just a lil bit

and occasionally pressed ramp when over 115

sometimes

haha

[hollow leaf]

haha

[astral igloo]

we only press ramp when we boutta lose enrage with new buff right

[south kayak]

[brittle crow]

u still care about rage in st probably

unless execute proc, or bladestorm

xd

[south kayak]

isn't destro warlock basically inflating their logs because of soul hunters damage

[brittle crow]

tho with the new buff
we dont even press bt in aoe when under 115 rage do we? we wanna ramp to get more raging blows

[tepid cedar]

8t 5 min.. don’t think bots updated

[south kayak]

Where reap

Is it maybe inside BT

[hollow leaf]

it's inside rb and inside bt

[heavy dock]

Odyns being the play again makes me very hard

[wet locust]

give it another 2years and thunder roar might feel good

[tepid cedar]

Look at usage though

[hollow leaf]

yeah bt should be way lower

[tepid cedar]

I did a very simple quick apl custom apl yesterday

[hollow leaf]

that's using bt on cd

[heavy dock]

True

[tepid cedar]

And rb was 178

Ramp was 80

Execute was 40

[hard widget]

just go to advanced and look at the priority list code

[hollow leaf]

what sim version are you running

nightly or weekly or whatever

[hard widget]

and ull see what it prioritises

[tepid cedar]

I did

That’s why I mentioned it, someone said bot was updated but it’s not lol

[hard widget]

Oh yeah i doubt they already did

[hollow leaf]

what version are you running

[hard widget]

Archi posted not so long ago about it

[tepid cedar]

Latest

[heavy dock]

Now can they accidentally fix rampage consuming WW stack when you press it and not when it finishes? Ty

[hollow leaf]

archi said it was gonna be updated either yday evening or today

[tepid cedar]

Yea I’m thinking today sometime

[hard widget]

Surely it wont make or break ur keys

[heavy dock]

No but its gonna make slayer 4 set feel good

[hard widget]

I would really like slayer to be good for m+

I like slayer

[heavy dock]

I mean it was

[lapis shadow]

Wait so

[tepid cedar]

It’s amazing

[lapis shadow]

This entire slayer thing

[heavy dock]

Just thane had higher overalls

[lapis shadow]

Was a bug?

[hollow leaf]

I also love ignoring rampage and spamming rb on packs until my fingers bleed

[tepid cedar]

Went into first boss of 16 hoa at 14 mil

[astral igloo]

hmmm capped beyond 5 and damage reduced by 30% is all youll get

[hard widget]

😄

Pre 3ple nerf slayer was so good man in s1

[heavy dock]

Ignoring rampage and spamming thunderblast/BT aint much different

[hollow leaf]

real

[signal locust]

Im not even trying this in anticipation of whats to come. RIP

[heavy dock]

Its just kinda crazy we play AM and somehow rampage isnt highest prio

Feels a bit weird

[stoic echo]

looks fine

[heavy dock]

Why is it magic even

[stoic echo]

because every moment with you is magical

[hoary agate]

lmao bloodthirst talents sidegrade to taking invigorating fury

[stoic echo]

[heavy dock]

[hard widget]

Tbh i dont care about the rotation, just please remove fucking delves man. I've been doing delves all morning for catch up stuff it sucks

[hoary agate]

bloodthirst rip 2025

[south kayak]

You wouldn't have catch up without delves though

[heavy dock]

Bt should be thane spell

[tepid cedar]

Haha yea I did a quick sim where rb was only below rampage to not lose enrage. 178 rb 80 ramp and 40 execute Lolol that’s not any kind of other optimization

[heavy dock]

Rb for slayer

[hard widget]

we did use to have it

[hollow leaf]

wait

[wicked beacon]

Everyone needs to sandbag in raid so slayer doesn't get nerfed

KEKW

[hollow leaf]

I'm actually going to fucking destroy on soulbinder tonight

[wicked beacon]

NONO YOU MUST SANDBAG

Don't get it nerfed yet

[south kayak]

I just saw you type the same message on Dans' stream lmfao

[hollow leaf]

I'm bringing back ansurek fury

[plush zephyr]

I mean, if we don’t abuse it now? When will we

[wicked beacon]

Noooo

[hollow leaf]

YEP

[wicked beacon]

Yes, but just don't abuse it in raid

Fuck raid

Abuse in M+

[hollow leaf]

Fuck m+

[mossy fox]

spellsteal

[astral igloo]

didnt arch talk to blizz already about it lol

[hollow leaf]

regardless we're not going to beat colossus in m+ anyways

doubt fury will ever beat arms in m+

[gaunt loom]

araz mythic today, should i go slayer?

[south kayak]

Fury Slayer does a whole lot more st than arms in M+

so yeah, it will

[heavy dock]

Always these goddamn mages bro

[hollow leaf]

depends how long the adds live

[gaunt loom]

i heard slayer buff

[hollow leaf]

you heard right

but won't do much if the adds die in .2 seconds

it's only a buff to aoe

[gaunt loom]

still MT then?

[hollow leaf]

I'm definitely trying it out though

[hoary agate]

slayer soul hunters 🙂

[mossy fox]

I'm a believer in slayer fury

[hollow leaf]

I'm a believer too

[hoary agate]

ima see a #1 critcake soulhunters slayer inc

[mossy fox]

colarms and thane fury dead in m+ for my team

slayer fury all the way

[hollow leaf]

oh you meant m+

nevermind you're cringe

[mossy fox]

i am

[hollow leaf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1392944663094362228/1393305032740573285/critcake-warrior.gif

[south kayak]

lmao

[proud vessel]

Lol

What build are you rocking Crit?

[simple sun]

xd

[mossy fox]

but also slayer fury on forgeweaver and soulhunter should be good

[digital arrow]

u just running old slayer m+ talents or spec out of bloodthirst talents ?

[proven stream]

its poggers

[hollow leaf]

I mean I'm for sure trying it out on soulhunters

[south kayak]

slayer op

[warm umbra]

new talents

[digital arrow]

can u share ur talents ?

[south kayak]

that's not me, that's noxiv

[warm umbra]

should reap be higher?

[ornate gust]

Time to play my warrior

[south kayak]

depends on the key

if it's giga high aoe i guess

[hollow leaf]

depends on dungeon

[warm umbra]

floodgate

[astral igloo]

noxiv has talents in stream

[hollow leaf]

mm..

floodgate is pretty high target count

but like if you're just spamming rb in aoe then it should be right

[mossy fox]

not decided yet but will prolly do this first

[smoky vale]

[mossy fox]

sims good on all target counts

[south kayak]

the fact fury is competing with destro in floodgate is crazy

[smoky vale]

critcake you need to do setup

[stoic echo]

I'm very confident this won't stay lol

[mossy fox]

i'll check with fresh meat instead of imp bt at some point too ig

[south kayak]

will you try of and TR

[mossy fox]

some QoL for a small dps loss

[mossy fox]

nah i dont believe in those 2 buttons rn

[cobalt relic]

do we still prio exe as slayer 4p in aoe (m+) now?

or do we just spam rb

[hollow leaf]

spam rb

[cobalt relic]

so rb>exe in packs

[hollow leaf]

would think so

[cobalt relic]

until 3 mfe ?

[warm umbra]

u still need overwhelmed proccs

[south kayak]

feel like this would make our prio worse since ST is now different than AoE

[warm umbra]

so u use exe when it procs yeah?

[cobalt relic]

afaik noxiv said 3mfe

u go exe

till then spam rb

[proud vessel]

Looking forward to your youtube vid on this

[red berry]

no

[south kayak]

don't make a youtube video on this

please

[cobalt relic]

what

[hoary agate]

close to what I was cooking up

[viral shore]

anyone got the noxiv build? too lazy to check on twitch

[hoary agate]

is focus in chaos worth?

[astral igloo]

CgEArbixk/ZKwTdpZGVHeylmLAAAAAAAAAQjhxsZmhZWGMzCzMzYGmhZ22mZMzMLYGzMzYmxywgZmBAAAxYbbgFwEMDTgBbA

noxiv build

[mossy fox]

it's fine I can just get beaten by fdk and ret and it's all good

[hollow leaf]

yeah that's bloodcraze fresh meat I think

[astral igloo]

yeah he picks up the ww and crit on warr side also

[viral shore]

thanks ❤️

[red berry]

dawg i cant get into 15s. i cant evne get into 14s despite having timed all 14s this is unreal

[hollow leaf]

my 682 fdk did 30m dps on pull after first boss priory yesterday

[hoary agate]

legit just remove bloodthirst completely take the extra heal/def lel

sidegrade

[hollow leaf]

no focus in chaos is wild

[astral igloo]

bout to say

[mossy fox]

foc is pretty big last time i checked

[hoary agate]

do we actually miss alot?

[south lintel]

not if its talented

XD

[hoary agate]

i guess we have no logs lol

[next spindle]

17% classic style?:P

[hoary agate]

well it sims well dropping it but idk if its counting misses...

[vale dove]

boys

[ornate gust]

How big the buff? 😵‍💫

[vale dove]

Reap the storm goes brrrrrrrrrrrr

[hard widget]

What the fuck is going on

[brittle crow]

isn't there normally a free point for one of the AM capstones

where'd it go

[hard widget]

Im doing almost 14m sustained aoe

on 5 targets

[ornate gust]

We brrrrr

[hard widget]

With slayer

This shit is busted

I love it

[south kayak]

my fdk is 691 and I was only 1m less overall than a ret who was 20 ilvls higher

[hollow leaf]

sounds like a very bad ret

[stoic echo]

no shot this wont get reverted

[south kayak]

He ain't

[mossy fox]

all 3 stat nodes

[south lintel]

it keeps up with other classes

[brittle crow]

wait is it in invigorating fury why

[south kayak]

im watching noxiv

it's so funny

[astral igloo]

either it stops cleaving or its getting big dam nerf

[south kayak]

he just keeps climbing on aoe

[fast mural]

Reap the storm getting buffed since the S1 nerfs

[mossy fox]

the build i linked actually can move a point from foc to doi

and doi wins by a bit

[hollow leaf]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7z5snJBXD4ZSBhm95EAHqR
this is adding execute at 3x MfE and RB under that to the apl

[south kayak]

doing more consistent damage than outlaw

[viral shore]

why would I even need B T on my bars with these builds? 😄

[south kayak]

healing

enraged regen

[digital arrow]

do we even press execute when wa tells us to execute in multi target, or do we just rb ?

[brittle crow]

foc?

im dum

[astral igloo]

focus in chaos

[brittle crow]

THATS AN I

[south kayak]

5 targets btw

[brittle crow]

wtf dropping focus in chaos sounds wack tho

[south kayak]

I mean, its pointless

[hollow leaf]

seems to be sidegrade in sims

[heavy dock]

if warlocks are allowed to have blackened soul #1 we should be allowed to have reap #1 lol

[south kayak]

your auto attacks do 0

and u don't need rage

[brittle crow]

yea ig u don't need rage

huh

[hollow leaf]

that's a good point

[tepid cedar]

lol we think it’s busted but it’s literally us keeping up with other classes and having a niche now since we bring nothing else

[viral shore]

that's for the guys with the cross on their role icon to do.

[hoary agate]

true

[stoic echo]

there's virtually no reason to play any other spec or hero talent

arms col, slayer and fury thane are completely dead

with that undocumented change

[heavy dock]

buff em up xd

[hoary agate]

CgEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQjhZsZmhZWGMzCzMzYGmhZ22mZmZGLAzMzYmxywwMzMAAAIGbbDsAmgZYCMYDA - someone go try a key with this i gtg meet XD

[tepid cedar]

We still get out dpsed by the meta boys but we keep up and now we are good to bring because st

[hoary agate]

no FOC or thirst talents

[barren sedge]

We rocking the slayer m+ build from wowhead or?

[fast mural]

Already coping as if this is intended ?

[hollow leaf]

moving away from odyns I can also get rid of the roar capstones into 2/2 cruel

[ashen pawn]

And what is Doi?

[south kayak]

there's no way it isn't intended

[south kayak]

it works the same for arms too

[hoary agate]

kek incoming bug fix

[stoic echo]

yeah I like happy peeps but this aint getting through

[fast mural]

I smell a hot fix coming

[stoic echo]

either reap gets nerfed or the proc chance

maybe its now intended, but its also undocumented

it's not listed as a bug fix or anything

[south kayak]

this isn't making fury stronger than the meta specs

[astral igloo]

honestly with proc chance lowered it could still compete with thane tbh

[south kayak]

so it isn't like op or anything

[stoic echo]

this is making fury slayer stronger than every other spec / hero talent tree

[fast mural]

We really do be coping huh

[tepid cedar]

Why yall dooming

[hoary agate]

its not but its giving us a great damage profile for M+ tbh giga ST and decent aoe

[hollow leaf]

it's skyhold what do you expect

[south kayak]

so what? there are specs where that's the case too

[tepid cedar]

Like this isn’t breaking the game

[hollow leaf]

professional complainers

[heavy dock]

good

[tepid cedar]

We feel like that bc we been so ass

[heavy dock]

we should cuz we have no utility

[mossy fox]

oops

it's next to i on the keyboard

[heavy dock]

focus on chaos

all good

[floral belfry]

foccing hell

[plush zephyr]

based and kinda agree

[stoic echo]

other warrior specs have utility surely

[hollow leaf]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4JviBMVpDsbnu4KkDYbWXz

changed talents a lil

[fast mural]

If this means we gonna play slayer on araz I might start coping too

[hollow leaf]

dogshit trinkets but that's whatever

[heavy dock]

technically thane has the intervene shield ;d

[south kayak]

that does nothing

[heavy dock]

but i was talking about other classes

[hollow leaf]

reminded me of this

[heavy dock]

isnt warrior the last class left without BL/CR/immunity?

[fast mural]

We have 2 2h weapons tho

[buoyant cape]

is slayer outperforming MT in M+ now with this new bug/feature/fix?

[cobalt relic]

does someone know the gain we get by the hotfix?

[heavy dock]

true

[astral igloo]

dude we got spell reflect

[hollow leaf]

priest doesn't have bl/cr/immunity I don't think

[heavy dock]

which was nerfed to shit

compared to s2 dragonflight

oh my

[astral igloo]

yeah i was joking lol

[heavy dock]

how glorious that was

[hollow leaf]

big gain

[heavy dock]

reflecting neltharion lair boss tank buster for 1mil

[floral belfry]

nokhud offensive 4ever

[south lintel]

wait is crit going live today?>

[whole remnant]

cake???

[south kayak]

LET FLY

[heavy dock]

nah neltharion had reflect on 2nd, last boss tank busters and on worm poison

[south lintel]

show us hows its done bro

[heavy dock]

spell reflect would be like #4 on dps lol

[cobalt relic]

any numbers

%

[floral belfry]

true true

[karmic vault]

is this viable now?

[hollow leaf]

we'll get them when archi updates it in #updates-midnight

[hollow leaf]

sure why not

[compact siren]

Is spongie here

[heavy dock]

when do you even press roar

[mossy fox]

you say this as if I don't stream literally every day

[heavy dock]

in this build

[vale dove]

Is the APL being updated to take in to consideration this change btw, or are we concerned it was unintended

[heavy dock]

as a filler?

[hollow leaf]

I mean auto attacks still do a fair bit on st

Idk if we actually do miss in practice ever

[heavy dock]

no they dont cmon..

they only give some rage

[south kayak]

they don't

[heavy dock]

with focus you never miss

[mossy fox]

It was a ST sim I checked with

i'll play with it a bit more later but cba running more sims on my phone

[heavy dock]

crit are you playing on na? cuz i see your streams all the time after i woke up being like 6h ago lol

[tepid cedar]

What I really wanna know and can’t wait for new apl, is how or if this affect st or for st we go back to normal exe high prio

[hollow leaf]

I'd say 2.4% is a decent bit

[south kayak]

you can run sims on phone??

[heavy dock]

why not

[mossy fox]

i mean yeah it's just raidbots

[mossy fox]

my channel name is critcakeeu

[astral igloo]

st i think we just follow wa for exe right?

even with buff

[south kayak]

yeah

st is exactly the same

[heavy dock]

i never noticed the eu part, but you must be streaming late then

[mossy fox]

used to be worse

[cerulean badger]

So in aoe now we basically just blast the RB key unless we Need to re-enrage? What we do with kaching?

[mossy fox]

used to stream up until like 2-3am but now i get proper sleep

[astral igloo]

noxiv said to kaching at 3 mark

[digital arrow]

weak

[heavy dock]

fair

[stoic echo]

does reap damage get boosted by powerful enrage?

[heavy dock]

ofc

[south kayak]

yes

[mossy fox]

yes

[south kayak]

it boosts everything

[heavy dock]

im an avid powerful enrage hater tho

am should be played with frenzied

[south kayak]

don't play it then

[heavy dock]

imo

im not

[stoic echo]

did you sim if its better in multi target than frenzied?

[south kayak]

I think frenzied should be better

but idk

[stoic echo]

frenzied I personally dislike on long huge pulls where you need to use WW

[hollow leaf]

frenzied in general sims better in all situations

[stoic echo]

feels a bit awkward sometimes to me

[heavy dock]

but i need to replace ring big time.. i have two 6800 crit 1200 mastery rings

[subtle marten]

Are the trinket sims on WoWhead still accurate after slight astral nerf?
Astral + Cursed SI (AoE)
Astral + Screams (ST)

[heavy dock]

they aint fkin dropping

[stoic echo]

on mostly ST its completely ez

[odd cipher]

sim for yourself always

[heavy dock]

can they just remove the cast time on idol

it feels so bad

or atleast off gcd

[hollow leaf]

you just use it mid charge

[heavy dock]

ok but not always applicable

[subtle marten]

Ravager idol charge

[heavy dock]

if u have to use it mid combat it feels atrocious

[brittle crow]

i whirlwind mid charge!

[dusty solar]

RA angle?

[hollow leaf]

not as bad as transmitter

[simple dock]

what happened to reaper of the storm?

[heavy dock]

ill take transmiter any day

[brittle crow]

transmitter was my goat

watch ur tongue

[hollow leaf]

#updates-midnight

[hollow leaf]

or what

what are you gonna do with it

[brittle crow]

amore

[heavy dock]

now lock tongues

[simple dock]

ty

[vale dove]

ye till ur orb decided to float through a wall or the soak thing was in some aoe puddle 😄

[brittle crow]

healer check

not my problem

also u could manipulate where the orb goes every time so

skill check too

[hollow leaf]

real

[wind kestrel]

Wait but mountain thane on m+ you still prio bt over rb right?

[hollow leaf]

yes

this is a change to the slayer tier

[light sandal]

Does this change to reap put slayer over thane in mythic plus?

[hollow leaf]

nothing to do with thane

[astral igloo]

alright im going to sleep

when i wake up there better be no nerfs

[plain sentinel]

Does MT prio bloodthirst only during the window where it has no cooldown or always?

[astral igloo]

and if there is we riot like pally disc 💪

[hollow leaf]

always

you wanna fish for as many tb procs as possible

[plain sentinel]

What if i have no 4set

[hollow leaf]

still same I think but you don't do damage

[plain sentinel]

Then i better see some hands or chest in the vault when i logon

Or ion gonna get a scathing tweet

[light sandal]

Right, but does this mean that slayer is better mt than thane is after 4piece?

[signal locust]

For 24 hrs

[light sandal]

Lol

[cerulean badger]

Blizzard didnt respond to this for now, right? We hang in the limbo of uncertainty?

[hollow leaf]

y

[light tapir]

Enjoy it while we can

[hollow leaf]

could be intended, could be not, who knows

[cerulean badger]

Classic

[jolly parrot]

11 hoa 9 mil overall

sseems ok

shitty tank and dps

so idk

[cobalt horizon]

They should just leave it, it just made us competitive

not busted

[uncut mauve]

Dave the intern will slay us soon I bet… probly before I get off work and can have fun 😛

[jaunty pilot]

Crit, where can i find the WA you use for tracking CDs/ww stacks? Thanks!

[viral shore]

well... spent 30 mins to redo all my loadouts for slayer... guess I'm ready for Blizz to "hotfix" it 😄

[long lintel]

What talents did you switched/ taken into account?

[heavy dock]

How did it takw you 30 min to swap talents

Unless you also swap gear

[graceful fog]

Maybe he swapped also biding, weak aura etcxD

[viral shore]

tried some stuff on the target dummies and fixed some weak auras for me 😄

[viral shore]

mostly messing around with OF or no OF and if I like playing with or without fresh meat. stuff like that. we'll see once I have time to try some keys

[fading sky]

It will be tuned we arent allowed to do this dmg

[viral shore]

probably 😄 then again why spend the effort to "fix" the 4p bonus in the first place if this was not intended

[fading sky]

Y but

Slayer wont be allowed to be better than thane

[queen grove]

can someone link me to the bug fix please?

[viral shore]

its undocumented

[bitter palm]

gg

hope he has a split with similar gear

[heavy dock]

whats with that wep lol

is it cuz crit/versa?

[prime bane]

i still seem to be doing more damage, at least on 5 target dummies, with mountain thane

though it feels way clunkier

[heavy dock]

i mean

i dont think slayer will ever out damage thane during opener

[prime bane]

this is, of course, assuming that rampage and execute still take priority over raging blow, not sure

[heavy dock]

but it will for sure be higher on average

im getting 20m on 5 targets opener as thane

[prime bane]

it depends for me... seems very very proc based

[heavy dock]

slayer will just constantly be pulling high numbers and higher ST

[prime bane]

luck based for me but my stats suck

[heavy dock]

ye its rng

[fading sky]

Fury keeps pumpin

Just get up owerwhelm with bladestor

And we be fuckin

[prime bane]

highest i could get was 11.07m just now on 5 target dummies at 703

[heavy dock]

when do you use roar in this new rotation

even

is it worth pressing lol

[prime bane]

my stats are 11% crit, 27% haste, 56% mastery, 16% vers

i questioned the roar thing too

it feels out of place

and yes i know i need way more haste

my mastery is insanity lol

[stiff barn]

In st you don't, unless you have nothing else to press

[heavy dock]

ye i get that, but on aoe

is it worth more than a raging blow/thunder blast?

[prime bane]

i use hekili, yeah make fun of me, whatever, but i have a brain issue so it helps me. they said they get their apl from the people here. has it been updated here yet for fury?

[heavy dock]

prob not yet

[prime bane]

didn't think so

[vagrant peak]

are we back with the 4set change

[heavy dock]

very

[late stratus]

Id definerly say roar is worth pressing in big pulls

but fs not prio

[stiff barn]

It is

[prime bane]

Rampage is probably still top priority i would assume

if execute is up or raging blow is up, which?

[late stratus]

3stacks exe

[prime bane]

3 stacks of what and is there an easy tracker for that?

[pallid barn]

allo does anyone know what the different races sim dps differences are, or are they negligible enough to play what looks cool

[late stratus]

this buff dont know the name of it not at pc, but yes its a weakaura pinned

[prime bane]

this one maybe? Fury Slayer Sudden Death Conditions - The same thing, but for Fury - note ignoring all conditions and just pressing Execute whenever Sudden Death lights up performs within 0.5%-1%.

[hoary agate]

reminder to do TW skip XD nice W

[prime bane]

yeah i got a bad trinket

lol

[shy copper]

whats the difference between MT and slayer in both aoe and st?

[light grotto]

What weakauras do you guys recommend?

[prime bane]

slayer was just simply put made for ST but now it's competitive for MT which should, in theory, put it in contention, if not ahead, of thane in keys

[hoary agate]

deffo ahead in keys, better damage profile

[prime bane]

i wish my brain worked well enough to not use hekili

[hoary agate]

sure u can pad thane in huge pulls flood/ara/priory but gona be much slower than slayer keys

[shy copper]

mm okay, visually i prefer MT but i didnt try slayer much tbh

so i guess its time to xD

[prime bane]

oh god slayer feels soooo much less clunky

[elfin hatch]

Slayer pulled ahead?

[prime bane]

most likely when you factor in bosses too

[compact knot]

slayer pretty much just spams RB and Exe, Thane spams BT and TB

Slayer has much better ST/Prio while Thane still has a higher dps on most pull counts, slayer also tends to be MUCH better in lower end keys esp with a good tank because of how insane some pulls can get

[elfin hatch]

I don't like the luck dependance of thane

[hoary agate]

RNGCLAP

[compact knot]

both are luck dependant

[prime bane]

yeah the luck part sucks BUT that moment when you get like 5 claps in a row omg

[hoary agate]

vs RNG JUGGAR kekw

[prime bane]

lol

[hoary agate]

guess RB got rng too

[prime bane]

not as much i'd say

[compact knot]

slayer this entire expansion has felt way more luck dependant than thane

MFE procs and Reap procs are the worst

[prime bane]

reap procs are nonstop now

no idea what mfe is lol

[compact knot]

execute stacks that give cdr for bladestorm

[prime bane]

ahhh

[neat dew]

Someone tried new slayer changes in m+?

[compact knot]

its been normalized a bit more i believe

it was really cringe in season 1

[shy copper]

aight my fellow chad players, will try slayer

[prime bane]

did this slayer change even help arms?

[buoyant cape]

yea only in 1 key tho. i did just over 7m in a dawnbreaker, where as MT same route i did a few days ago i did just under 6m

not sure if there was some other factor - but it feels fun to play if nothing else 😄

same tank, same healer - the two dps were diff so could be contributing

dno

[prime bane]

brew tank, shaman or druid healer, shaman or druid dps, then fill in here another physical dps

[oak peak]

Finished 13 gambit at 7.4m and 12 HoA at 7.7m with slayer. Feels pretty good actually.

[hallow jetty]

fury bugged today?

[prime bane]

we hope it's not bugged and it was just unannounced

changing our 4 piece doesn't seem like a bug

[neat dew]

Sounds fun lets go

[mighty swan]

Is the RB x2reap the storm a bug or a blizzard’s intended buff ?

[hallow jetty]

seems so unlike blizz to buff warriors i guess it feels like a bug :p

[prime bane]

lol

thing is, they aren't in the worse spot ever except aoe but we had thane for that

i wish bm hunter single target was better.. i am so much stronger on my fury warrior single target

and my bm is higher ilvl

[sinful glen]

Bis ring, but should i go for the tier shoulder(cata)? I can always craft a ring later on right?

[prime bane]

if you already have 4 piece i would go for ring personally especially if it's mythic track

[sinful glen]

have 4 piece hero track except shoulders which are champ

[spare steppe]

helm and shoulders are also from later bosses, depending on how your mythic progression is

[sinful glen]

1/8 major prog :p

[prime bane]

my guild has no plans to go into mythic

which is upsetting to me

[sinful glen]

if you're EU we're looking to recruit 👀

[prime bane]

we aren't aotc yet. we will be friday, we made it to last boss onheroic last night with no issues

i'm not, i'm around the chicago servers

[sinful glen]

aww fair

[barren sedge]

wSo as slayer AOE, we just keep up meatcleaer, rampage for enrage and sam RB?

[arctic pivot]

damn the hotfix is huge

i just tested it

[barren sedge]

Bladestorm on cd I guess

[arctic pivot]

on 5 targets

RTS does arround 30%

[prime bane]

can it go beyond 5 targets?

[barren sedge]

From 13 ara kara

[prime bane]

i imagine at reduced efficiency like pretty much everything warrior

interesting odyn's fury there

[verbal kernel]

Holy shit

[amber notch]

did 25m on first pull of FG yesterday as slayer

its real good

[pseudo current]

where is this hotfix cant find it anywhere

[prime bane]

read your 4 piece

[barren sedge]

The other warrior in our guild gave me an OF build, I dont mind it

[prime bane]

i doubt they are pushing apl for it yet because they wanna be sure it wasn't a mistake

we are gunshy on buffs

also wish i could afford to switch my warrior from a maghar orc... i hate how big they are

[barren sedge]

its making me kinda sad, I hate upkeep on meat cleaver and for MT its fucking free. But slayer just does so much single target and now comparable aoe

[worn yoke]

this hotfix is fucking LIT bois

[amber notch]

if its intended. will be a fun fury season not a fan of MT

[worn yoke]

im curious on builds though i feel like the bloodthirst talents on the left side of the tree just arent needed now

[sinful glen]

what has been fixed?

[prime bane]

i don't see how it couldn't be intended

they literally changed our 4 piece

[hollow leaf]

wasn't announced and it's blizzard

[prime bane]

i know i know lol

[hollow leaf]

anything can be unintended

[prime bane]

i'm keeping myself optimistic

[left pasture]

And overall global ?

[worn yoke]

thoughts on OF joining the fray?

[hollow leaf]

good qol button for insta enrage

doesn't do any relevant damage without roar capstones though

[charred flint]

lmao

How much higher is it than Thane?

[prime bane]

i think he said 1m

[spare steppe]

i'd check out fresh meat

it seems like a nice ability to have over 10% BT damage

[prime bane]

idk what haste we should even be shooting for personally

i know my mastery is stupid high

[charred flint]

whatever sims tell you

[prime bane]

i'm not allowing myself to use sims anymore. sims pulled me into a very dark place where i was regemming everytime i got a new item

and it was giving me major anxiety lol

[charred flint]

I mean just ignore gems

[sinful glen]

this doesn't narrow it down: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8v9yy9QiKrtJJcZhkksynj

[cobalt relic]

game dead gg

[charred flint]

Just check the option where you wont change gems/enchants

[prime bane]

oh, guess i could do that

maaaan i just unsubscribed from raidbots because i was getting really unhealthy with it

it was literally giving me panic attacks

[hollow leaf]

gems are a pretty small difference

[odd cipher]

if you don't want to deal with sims you can just checkout murlok, since it has stat aggregation from top50

[prime bane]

how well would anything even sim right now if the apl hasn't been updated with this change tho?

[spare steppe]

i'd argue for the helm just if you arent going into mythic. stat allocations can bring a ring up or down

but raw str is always going to be good

[sinful glen]

We're going into mythic

[odd cipher]

these changes are not enough to shift your stat priority

[sinful glen]

but we usually are like 5/8ish every season

[prime bane]

i'm stuck with BM in my guild cause i CANNOT play MM to save my life lol

[spare steppe]

oh that was mrklown my b

[worn yoke]

5target practice yielding good results with this build.

[drifting token]

Ew powerful enrage

[barren sedge]

7.4 mil, but I died 4 times cause I'm big dumb dumb

[wind kestrel]

what overall tho?

[desert musk]

16 arakara w.o odyns

[wind kestrel]

oh shit

[worn yoke]

send breakdown and build lad

[gritty basin]

huh slayer

[desert musk]

i swap cold steal to crit rb

[wind kestrel]

i loved slayer more anyway win win

[desert musk]

after key

[charred flint]

dont we pick the buffs on dragon roar for m+?

[spare steppe]

TR is depressingly bad

[fair cave]

Hey guys, i simc my vault and what it shows is that upgrading my tier pants from 710 to 723 is a bigger upgrade than pacemaker 710 to 723. Isnt trinket upgrades suposed to be biggest upgrades after wep?

[wind kestrel]

only worth on giant pulls otherwise you dont even press it

[fading sky]

pace is decent

but not great as fury

and pants are max lvl, but are u certain there isnt any trickery

[spare steppe]

any way to macro cursed stone idol to be used after/during charge?

[odd cipher]

pacemaker weaker than it was last season, just because its trinket slot, doesn't mean it's gotta be biggest upgrade

[hoary agate]

noice just did a 12 flood for testing got 10m+ also 😄

[odd cipher]

if your sim says pants better than pants is the way to go

[fair cave]

I do have a normal antenna on vault but havent recleared raid yet

[odd cipher]

i hope you took 710 mythic pants and it wasn't a heroic piece

[merry jetty]

Is slayer better thwn arms now for m plus?

[worn yoke]

what build you run? im interested in the chance of some flexibility happening VS just taking all passive rows again

[bitter palm]

has to be

st prio is powerful

[worn yoke]

similar overalls to arms colossus, but a better damage profile and way more boss damage, also more fun to play (subjectively)

[hoary agate]

this

was 10m at last boss but dude missed some count so finished on 9.4m

[glacial lark]

would you guys rather take mythic antenna or mythic sacbrood from vault?

[hoary agate]

12 flood

i hit a few bloodthirsts where I shouldnt though oops

[worn yoke]

interesting! loving seeing some variations around.

[charred flint]

sac cuz antena is an easier drop

[fair cave]

I do have anteena normal on vault and it says its better upgrade than pants. You think would be worth taking normal antenna (assuming after reclears i still dont have it) than myth pants?

[wind kestrel]

100% antenna but im only saying this cause i have 3 sac broods

[fading sky]

Antenna u wsnt that

Like always take bis trinket

[hoary agate]

big momma was fun this was without lust

[spare steppe]

100% antenna

Super competitive

[hoary agate]

huge prio and nice pad on adds XD

[worn yoke]

tentatively gonna say we might actually keep up in the higher eschelon of keys now

and it also feels kinda great to play

[last nacelle]

So with the damage répartition, the "buff" on slayer set work ?

[stoic echo]

Yeah completely fine to see reap the storm at the very top on every details

[last nacelle]

RB proc reap at 100% chance when 5+ target ?

[drifting token]

I dont think a one button rotation feels "kinda great to play" for anyone, but numbers are numbers

[stoic echo]

Surely it won't get changed / nerfed

[hoary agate]

hoping it wasnt an accident XD

but tbh it doesn't say primary target

[worn yoke]

finally, only waited all expansion for this

[hoary agate]

so maybe it was supposed to hit all targets

[worn yoke]

it seems like its working now exactly how it always should have

[stoic echo]

Based on?

[worn yoke]

the english language

[stoic echo]

It's laughably overpowered now, if it works as it was intended, it'll very likely get nerfed

Passive talent being top DPS lul

[worn yoke]

empyrian hammer has entered the chat

[stoic echo]

I hate that I'm forced to slayer fury now

[prime bane]

does this look kinda right?

[stoic echo]

I wanna go back to arms

[tepid cedar]

I wonder if spear with champions might be better than roar

[drifting token]

The mechanics of how it's working is probably intended, the numerical tuning of it 99.9% chance is not

[worn yoke]

then go lol nobody is going to stop you. personally i am stoked we are finally probably looking at a slayer m+ season.

[coarse nest]

Guarantee they lower the tuning of it

[worn yoke]

i would wager its not even overpowered, we are just so used to being bottom of the barrel

[coarse nest]

I’d be shocked otherwise

[tepid cedar]

They really shouldn’t

[worn yoke]

and are always quick to get nerfed

[tepid cedar]

We aren’t broken

[stoic echo]

let the fury peeps cope here

[coarse nest]

They’ll think we are because we are suppose to only hit 5 targets effectively

[stoic echo]

my brother

[tepid cedar]

We stil get out dpsed lol but now we provide good st

While keeping up

[stoic echo]

the cope is too strong

[coarse nest]

I agree that it’s nice and should stay but blizzard won’t allow it

I’d be willing to bet this gets hammered

[tepid cedar]

I don’t know I bet tcs got inside sources lol

[magic wigeon]

anyone has good ui for fury warrior

[tepid cedar]

I don’t think they would change apl if it wasn’t gonna stay

[worn yoke]

last time fury was powerful we got nerfed beyond oblivion into a meme, you'd like to think they wont do it again - but im probably coping

[thick oar]

Is the tier change intended? Its fun af ngl

[tepid cedar]

That was broken busted good

This doesn’t make us broken in any way lol

Play with. Good frost or mage

Or elly

We still lose overall

But now we bring st

[cyan creek]

do the streets bracers actually affect our autoattacks?

[tepid cedar]

For not have immunity cr lust, it’s how it should be

[midnight sierra]

TLDR on reap the storm stuff?

[coarse nest]

Right now, large gains

Play slayer in all dungeons

[warped drum]

so what's the new talent build with Slayer in m+?

[barren sedge]

Guys are we a funne lclass now. Hit adds for more reaps that hit main target?

[coarse nest]

Enjoy it while it lasts

[magic wigeon]

anyone has good ui for fury warrior

[south lintel]

It doesn't feel broken

But the prio is nice for bigger keys on bosses

[zenith moat]

frost dk still miles ahead

[south lintel]

Well I only do 14 15s

[coarse nest]

Last night they were speculating possible builds but essentially you just play regular slayer M+ build for now

[warped drum]

word

[coarse nest]

Potentially drop some talents for odyns fury again or possibly drop DE for CT

Most likely execute only at 3x mfe now as well for Bladestorm cdr

Otherwise more aoe to just spam RB and ramp to maintain enrage

[frank dawn]

Basically you can drop any of the Bloodthirst stuff to get anything else you want. It’s all so minor it hardly matters for numbers it’s just a gameplay preference

[gaunt loom]

killed araz with slayer

[midnight sierra]

Lmao wtf over thane ?

[coarse nest]

Grats! Curious did you guys drop adds behind the portal or in front right on boss?

[midnight sierra]

Wonder if this was intended change to RTS

[south lintel]

toxic

lmao

[coarse nest]

Yeah now that they fixed raging blow procing reap from all hits, reap cranks aoe big time

And slayer does more boss/prio than thane

[midnight sierra]

I’ve just been playing thane since 4 pc but maybe I’ll try this out then

[gaunt loom]

We only summon the add behind the portal when it comes out at the same time as the floor mechanic.

[coarse nest]

Got it, do you know what knock you were using first? Wing buffet?

[gaunt loom]

When only the add spawns, we just pull it out in front of the portal together with the boss.

[oblique pond]

anyone know how big the increase is for slayer fury over thane in m+?

[gaunt loom]

I’m not really sure about the knockback stuff either. I just focused on doing my own job.

[coarse nest]

Fair enough was just simply curious, no worries

[vague fern]

Does the slayer buff make it better than thane on m+?

[magic wigeon]

do you ui give me

baby

[grave pike]

wait what did i miss, is slayer the play now and RB spam?

[charred flint]

8.12M average as slayer

damn

[bitter palm]

[charred flint]

Probably doing rotation wrong too, not sure if im supposed to ignore execute aura now

[gaunt loom]

UI?

[coarse nest]

[drifting token]

Better. Roughly the same aoe capability but much better st/boss dam

[coarse nest]

Off topic, has anyone figured out how to turn off the giant numerical text on cones SD weakaura without bricking it?

[magic wigeon]

edit mode or eluvi

[vague fern]

Thank goodness for that! Cheers

[coarse nest]

[dense elbow]

Depends, Thane is still more overall (probably) in m+ in high density dungs. Yet Slayer is still as strong on prio dam as before this buff.

I would say Slayer is the play. But if your team needs the mass AoE of Thane, it could be a consideration to put weight on.

Either way, play what you prefer. Overall they just got equalised.

[charred flint]

no team is gonna need the "mass aoe" of thane

[vague fern]

Thank you thank you! Annd I’m guessing the raid bosses that thane was better on, is now all slayer

[charred flint]

we dont do mass aoe

[spiral orbit]

Any sims yet on reap change damage increase to slayer

[charred flint]

we do very okay aoe at all times

[lean lava]

Slayer fury is back? Yes pls ❤️ ❤️

[charred flint]

And Slayer now does just that too

Without losing on boss damage

[random estuary]

simc was updated with it 12 hours ago

[dense elbow]

Don't raid, don't know. You just gotta keep up with lorrgs and your own feel with your raid

[random estuary]

also this is aoe only right? its a proc chance per target (and not ability to proc with MH + OH e.g. in ST)

[coarse nest]

Having 10m dps on every pull and strong ST damage is a niche strength I hope they let us keep it truly

[vague fern]

Ahh fairs. Cheers

[spiral orbit]

I didn’t sum before and after just asking for rough percent change if it’s measurable

[quiet breach]

no

[magic wigeon]

edit mode or eluvi

[dense elbow]

That's cute

I expect huge overall nerds of everything... And another gutting of OF and Roar

[coarse nest]

Lmao you know it

War can’t have nice things!

[charred estuary]

I can't believe they buffed raging blow for slayer aoe man lmao

Some employee saw that people were pressing bloodthirst at 6+ targets and sounded the alarm

[mossy fox]

im a huge nerd

whats gonna happen to me

[dense elbow]

Only auto correct knows

[tight roost]

We are all huge nerds

[smoky vale]

hi cutiecake

[charred flint]

So

Now

Do we ignore execute WA on keys?

on big pulls i mean

[stoic echo]

wait do we take OF?

[quiet breach]

fixed my scuffed dimensius parse. would've 99ed it I think if not for input lag. pretty sure I would have a few 99s ATP if not for input lag this shit is annoying

[vague fern]

im guessing the m+ Slayer build is the one down as 'Default slayer' in the FAQ

[rigid stirrup]

Better be seeing a giant smile in that next yt thumbnail

[gaunt loom]

I haven’t uploaded a UI myself, so maybe you’re confusing me with someone else?

[quiet breach]

randomly my shit will lag af and feel like my keys are sticky as hell

especially noticable during lust

[chrome plover]

nerf fury?

[rigid stirrup]

Surely they don't nerf when we're finally up to speed w the other melee specs

[charred flint]

lmao

we are all so beaten up we just cant believe we will actually be a top spec for once

[gaunt loom]

Warrior DPS has finally gotten back on track.

[frank dawn]

Warrior tuning PTSD is real

[rigid stirrup]

I wouldn't say top but def a good pick for keys now

Phys comp actually goes insanely hard now

[tight roost]

I just want the changes to persist long enough for me to finish work and try it out 😆

[magic wigeon]

i saw your logs

[rigid stirrup]

Imagine they kept that monk buff change from ptr

[magic wigeon]

i think you have good ui

[balmy shore]

sick reap the storm

[frank dawn]

Plz no shackle me to monk

[south kayak]

[magic wigeon]

Fuck Lag Btw can you share your ui

[smoky vale]

true spongebab

[drifting token]

what is up with this kid's ui obsession

[magic wigeon]

whats color is your logs?

[cyan creek]

drop all BT talents on the left and get odyns fury?

[drifting token]

still being theorycrafted i believe

[tepid cedar]

If I eat fatty food sometimes green or yellow

[frank dawn]

You can get OF if you want the difference isn't going to be enough to matter

[wet locust]

but that doesnt..

[low folio]

dude slayer with the change feels so nice

[wet locust]

I'm already tired of ww

back to clap

[drifting token]

watching Bize gap an ele sham and fdk on live right now

[magic wigeon]

your proflie is gang do you have any UI for Fury warrior?

[warm crag]

gang shit

[tepid cedar]

Ggggaaaaaannngggg

[wet locust]

you have an unopened item in your collection, giving me rwf ptsd

[south lintel]

SUUUHWHOOOP

[low folio]

is there an argument to run powerful enrage as slayer in keys for more enrage uptime now that we dont press bt that much

[magic wigeon]

i can get UI here

?

[chrome plover]

oh yeah

[fading sky]

Reapcake!

[fading sky]

Test and lmk

[low folio]

ok

[drifting token]

Dont see why, you're not lacking enrage uptime with how many rampages you get anyway

[fading sky]

I mean

The blsdestorm into rb pump

Id guess

[low folio]

idk maybe i got used to having bt to increase its uptime

[fading sky]

But u could just sim

I tried of, dno of its truly worth

[potent thicket]

Slayer got buffed?

[spare steppe]

#updates-midnight

[fading sky]

'Fixxxed'

[tepid cedar]

u can also go the route of moving fresh meant and going for deft

[modest condor]

there's no way you drop focus in chaos

[tepid cedar]

Shouldn’t

They said they tested it but then again who knows

[mossy fox]

are you sure

[sand crest]

you can also go the smf / odyns route

[chrome plover]

Yeah I was feeling like enrage was giga short in these slayer keys

[sand crest]

I tried it, its a banger

I swear

[spare steppe]

how often do you miss without Focus in chaos?

[mossy fox]

i tried simming w/o and seems decent

[modest condor]

[tepid cedar]

I could rerun the mock custom sim with and without FiC atleast give a semi idea.

[tepid cedar]

What’s was the diff crit

[low folio]

what about this as an idea

or getting fresh meat

[tepid cedar]

Powerful enrage + deft would be pretty good to increase more rb casts b4 having to enrage

[mossy fox]

fic vs doi in this case

and doi had a very slight edge

[spare steppe]

I thought deft was only BT?

[mossy fox]

on aoe it's a slightly bigger win

[mossy fox]

it's still 1% mast each point

[tepid cedar]

Powerful Enrage make any difference crit pairing with deft?

[spare steppe]

i meant in terms of apoc saying more RB casts before having to enrage

[south kayak]

auto attacks do little damage and u don't care about rage, why not

[low folio]

ok ya i do see the problem of not having deft experience for bladestorm

[mossy fox]

didnt check the diffy for frenzied or powerful yet

[lilac kettle]

is this the case even after the change that was noted in the updates-war-within channel?

[mossy fox]

though slayer fury rly likes haste this season for st

idk about aoe

[modest condor]

you do care about rage tho

[south kayak]

how

you're overcapping out the wazoo

[low folio]

missed auto attacks is less rage

[modest condor]

what do you mean how? we're playing anger management

[fading sky]

We care a bit

[south kayak]

idk if that matters when u can spam raging blow and put out damage lol

[fading sky]

We csre st

[drifting token]

Are we forgetting what hack n slash does

[fading sky]

In aoe u wanna rb

[spare steppe]

also just been hitting a target dummy, missed ~20% of my AA

[oblique trail]

Dual wielding gives you a 19% chance to miss on auto attacks

So it adds up

[tepid cedar]

100% cause I messed around a bunch earlier this week. Procing reckleness as fast as possible is huge. Though powerful enrage could make for some giga reaps. Which got me thinking simming spear with champions instead of roar

[low folio]

its not the best test, but ima do this 12 without deft experience to see how it feels

[tepid cedar]

Hopefully we get a apl and bot change soon to go hard on the sims lol

[mossy fox]

doubt it's worth

to take spear

[tepid cedar]

The spear part?

Kk

[mossy fox]

we're stat node gamers now

[low folio]

i used to like spear in season 2 when messign with slayer

[tepid cedar]

Yea OF doing 2% is brutal no point in taking it

[ornate gust]

So in S3, I send Execute when I hear the WA sound?

[tepid cedar]

For ST

Prolly looking at only 3 stacks now on aoe and im not sure wa has been updated for it

[rotund ginkgo]

wait is slayer big now for M+?

[tepid cedar]

We compete

Now

[rotund ginkgo]

i mean compared to thane

[charred flint]

yes

[rotund ginkgo]

warr is still cheeks but hows it compared to thane

[tepid cedar]

Thane is dead

[rotund ginkgo]

so just slayer?

[charred flint]

Its not dead but Slayer is looking better

[thick fossil]

Man, I kinda hope that isn't a bug with the tier set.

[spare steppe]

ok hear me out, Single minded fury gives a lot of flat stats

[charred flint]

do you know what gives more stats?

[tepid cedar]

Imagine SMF being low key BiS and we all just overlook it

[charred flint]

2 2handers

[tepid cedar]

SMF daggers?!?!?!?!

[grand crypt]

this is not a bug

it is a bug fix

[thick fossil]

Slayer Fury, oh man, that rotation and game play is so good. Bladestorm into 3 or 4 RB which is 3-4 reaps.

[spare steppe]

i think discord would lock down if SMF was bis

[south kayak]

If it was a bug why would both arms and fury have it

[tepid cedar]

SMF dagger scales real well with fury 🤣

[spare steppe]

because slayer tier set is for both arms and fury?

[south kayak]

maybe it is a bug but I think it's unlikely

[pale lava]

@modest condor sorry for the ping but what do you think about pressing RB over Rampage even outside brutal finish in an AoE scenario?

I wonder if the reap procs are more damage than getting more AM cdr

[tepid cedar]

Don’t think it’s a big. And if they do anything I bet wil be lower reap damage. I hope they don’t do shit, but I can see them lowering to 125% or maybe even back to 100 which I hope it’s not 100

Hopefully they leave this as it is. It’s really not breaking the game

[modest condor]

it's certainly possible

[thick fossil]

It was a 12 Gambit, so the uncapped area upfront had the Ele and DK way above me. I caught up. lol

[tepid cedar]

Yea dude we ain’t broken

Now we compete

And it’s beneficial to bring us

For st goodyness

[thick fossil]

Yup, the funnel is wild.

[spare steppe]

whats this? a DK buff from the top rope??

[pale lava]

maybe rampage in 5T and RB in 6 and over, same as the previous priority regarding BT