fury

[warm crag]

Okay? I can see here that you are playing on the character giofiftyseven

[oblique trail]

Unhinged doesn't stop you from cancelling it, only Hurricane did because of some funky stuff with it

[solemn plover]

hey

[oblique trail]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bite-catbitcord-cat-cat-meme-cat-explosion-gif-17827142058596640794

[solemn plover]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bite-catbitcord-cat-cat-meme-cat-explosion-gif-17827142058596640794

[warm crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1411816700076359841/fallacy_V1.gif

[solemn plover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1362110776285991103/1407786287615967232/caption-1.gif

[clever belfry]

alert

[warm crag]

Hello

[clever belfry]

hurricane was cancelable for a bit and the buff kept stacking cause it wasnt tied to bladestorm being active - but just an internal timer after using bladestorm

[oblique trail]

This yes

I didn't recall the details

Just along the lines of this

Dementia patient

[warm crag]

Happy birthday!

Kaboom

[gleaming siren]

@warm crag when are we playing Borderlands

[tepid cedar]

You not see what I posted last week on a flood gate lol ret was like 30k under me or some shit like that on tree boss 😂 and doing arms aoe numbers

[earnest canyon]

what does it mean on warcraftlogs when under parse % it used to have a number, and now half the raid has a line " - " instead?

[dense elbow]

No, cause I dont trust you

[tepid cedar]

Not enough parses maybe ?

[earnest canyon]

as I said, a week or so ago everyone had a number

[tepid cedar]

Haven’t seen that one yet

[bitter palm]

u just get a 0 or 100 if no one is parsing

[earnest canyon]

I went to check who was getting pi and half of them are lines now

[bitter palm]

i think - is invalidated?

[tepid cedar]

It used to just highlight ur parse red for invalidated

[bitter palm]

i meant the entire log got invalidated

i saw it before i forgot

[tepid cedar]

Damn dafuq an entire log get invalidated lol

[warm mist]

putting in extra mileage to understand how a class works doesn’t count?

[earnest canyon]

here....a week ago everyone had a number, nothing changed....and no, im not the warrior

[tepid cedar]

Interesting I’ve never seen that before

[bitter palm]

ask on wclogs discord

[earnest canyon]

are u in there?

[bitter palm]

no

[earnest canyon]

oh

[tepid cedar]

I got you if you don’t mind me using your screenshot

[earnest canyon]

sure, i blanked the names anyway....thanks

we havent reuploaded the log or anything...all thats happened is like a week has passed, and its ONLY on plexus

hc

[tepid cedar]

I’ll ping you soon as they reply

[earnest canyon]

cheers

[earnest canyon]

yeah if i select loom from the same raid, all the numbers are there

same as every other boss

[tepid cedar]

Let me check our runs

Like that for me too

[earnest canyon]

that is weird that at least you have parse, just ilevel parse is missing

something fucky is going on

[tepid cedar]

And like you said some people have both

[warm crag]

When are we playing factorio or salvations edge with @oblique trail and my gm

[lime egret]

A lot of the Google results mention "ENCOUNTER_START/COMBATANT_INFO are missing" - is this something you can check?

But does seem weird that it'd work for one boss and then not another

[earnest canyon]

ic an download the raw csv i guess? its not my log, its the gm's

oh lamo, the csv is just literally that table

idk how id check if that is missing

and if it is, why would it change

ok lmao, i opened it again in a new tab, and evrything is as it should be....very weird

I wonder why it was those particular chars on that fight if it was a browser issue

[uneven path]

Can't it be that during that time there wasn't enough ppl with that ilvl ? So since it didn't have sufficient data it just put blank in there and now that it has enough it filled it out ?

[earnest canyon]

no, because it originally had it all filled in

[uneven path]

Hmmm

[tight roost]

Probably an issue with the wcl backend then

[earnest canyon]

maybe, idk....what I did learn is that it shouldnt do that though lol....not that they changed the way they log plexus or something, but it doesnt make sense across so many classes anyway

[bitter palm]

it usually just gives u a 100* or a 0*. * meaning low parse count for that bracket

100 or 0 is when u are the only one usually

which is very rare unless u are in a huge guild progging very early

[heavy dock]

Destiny rising time

[warm crag]

Get real

[warm crag]

With skyreaver its closer to 0*

[bitter palm]

-100*

[stoic echo]

Don't leak my logs wtf

[undone flower]

I got the weapon over our dk who still has a hero weap, I deserved it

[scenic pecan]

Do I press back to back to back … thunderblast ? According Im under the effect of Enrage?

In Multi Target scénario

[undone flower]

Oui

[scenic pecan]

Haha merci !

[forest owl]

do you need a weak aura for the tierset slayer? i have the sudden death weak aura from s2 not sure if that is ok

[dense elbow]

I just send SD on CD, and nothing seems amiss with it, so 'need' is a strong term. If ya want the updated one, I remember em talking about it being in #ui-addons-manager

[quiet breach]

why would he not craft a wep

[undone flower]

because he inted obviously

[hushed ocean]

where tuning pass ?

tomorrow?

[lime egret]

Update the WA for sure - conditions have changed slightly

[hazy storm]

on mythic first boss is arms better than fury?
or fury better

[radiant plank]

fury

[lime egret]

Fury pretty monstrous on that fight

[forest owl]

damn 4p undermine to 2p2p is really a 12% upgrade even at the same ilvl?

thats huge

[quiet breach]

is arms better than fury on any fight?

in manaforge

[hazy storm]

some say plexus thats why i asked

[lost saffron]

Its probably better for last 2

but harder to play

[bitter palm]

nexus king and dimensius maybe

if u can play it

eroka was playing arms on dimensius idk if he is still playing it

but keeping jugg up p1 is dark wizardry from what ive heard

get gravity = gg

[lost saffron]

You just have to save a procc and use it before you walk back

but it still drops sometimes due to proccs

[warm crag]

Your name is toph

warrior design is just laughably bad for both of those fights

[slim coral]

Hell no

[hazy storm]

plecus they said

[slim coral]

We delete arms

[hazy storm]

plexus is first boss

[warm crag]

cant just say no when we don't really have the numbers yet lol

[slim coral]

The more you play that spec the more blizzard will think the design is ok

P3 is a joke tho

P1 turbo op on the healing side

[undone flower]

Yeah udk S2 was really ok

[warm crag]

p sure arms will be better for saladhaar and dimensius in a way that won't matter

[slim coral]

Might be better but it’s not as tanky as fury

[warm crag]

assuming you press your buttons you will live equally well as both specs

[slim coral]

And trust me as I’m currently progging it you want all the tankiness

P1 gigs fucks if you get the dot esp you’ll just fall over if you’re a squishy class

[gleaming siren]

Half the world is currently progging it Bazeface

[slim coral]

True actually

Another amirdrassil

[undone flower]

You are my world

[slim coral]

[hazy storm]

wait fax or foolish arms for plexus?

[slim coral]

Fury

[warm crag]

it doesn't matter man

play whatever you want for plexus

[slim coral]

Why would arms be good on plexus

[hazy storm]

ST

st m,eans isngle target

[slim coral]

Arms st is dogshit

Only thing I could ever see arms being good for is burst to delete adds

But then you are playing colossus and it does no st

[young swan]

u can reflect the dot expiration

u can also reflect cat scratches

[slim coral]

Yeah I found that out when Thursday when I randomly pressed it

You can also spell reflect the front cone

[young swan]

we legit take no damage except for sin stack clears

[slim coral]

And the dragon claw if you run out to the image

When he smacks you for 7 mil

[young swan]

its more than 7 mil...

[slim coral]

Ye well you can reflect it

I ate the frontal cone and got meleed with spell reflect up and took 0 damage

We were wiping so I was testing

[young swan]

fight is wacky for warrior legit nothing is lethal except beams

[slim coral]

Even then

You can legit eat one and be fine

[young swan]

well

idk about that

u can eat a single tick and be fine

[slim coral]

That’s what I mean

[young swan]

but it ticks every 0.3s

so like

[slim coral]

But obviously you don’t wanna

[tawny umbra]

where are your video guides 🥺

[young swan]

ur prob taking more than 1 tick

[slim coral]

They’re all up

[slim coral]

Fight is fun tho

The ghost mechanic can be wonky for some classes from what I’ve seen

Like if they’re hard casting certain spells the ghost won’t work

[tawny umbra]

Are you THE fury warrior

[smoky vale]

no

[tawny umbra]

Idk bro his guide was the first one I clicked when I searched Youtube

[slim coral]

Yes that’s me

[tawny umbra]

This man deserves a link to his guide in the faq

[slim coral]

I’m starving tho gonna make some breakfast

[vital stag]

Is there a reason we don't drop T Roar in single target for Intervene or something else?

[hazy storm]

yeah coinfusing

is ee in logs a top arms warrior beating fury

i dont know why

[stiff barn]

You can do that, if you want . Roar is only being used as a filler when you have nothing else to press.

[mossy nimbus]

Is there a consensus on when to replace a myth jastor diamond? It still sims about 50k better in ST than the best 704 ring. But when i take a look at the profiles of the best m+ fury players, all of them are wearing two 704 rings.

[oak peak]

So jastor diamond is buggy. It does sim higher until 710 rings for me. But, sometimes it will decide not to proc nearly a whole fight. So i think people replace it if it’s close in dps just for consistency. Plus not everyone has mythic jastor diamond, and heroic is replaced by 704

[young swan]

they unequipped it cause its bugged sometimes and u get like 100k more hp by just using a modern ring

[stoic echo]

Nah stamina is irrelevant in high keys and mythic raid

Just don't die?

[tender forge]

what are people running for M+ , slayer or MT?

[drifting token]

Thane is the current m+ meta spec but you still get pretty high with slayer

[tender forge]

sweet thanks

[hardy shuttle]

Slayer is better in streets and dawn, but the rest are thane

[somber thicket]

Arakara+13 all dps 709 thought they gona smack me with this broken clasess

[iron portal]

DId they spend half the key afk or dead?

[undone flower]

dead afks

[quiet breach]

what fight are we talking about here, mythic nexus king?

[slim coral]

ye

[quiet breach]

what are your thoughts on arms slayer AoE vs thane fury AOE? @slim coral

which one is better

[slim coral]

thane fury imo is better

[modest condor]

lmao

hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby question

[quiet breach]

I don't play arms so idk lol

all I know is collosus arms is meant for aoe

[bitter palm]

thane pwar execute vs colo arms execute ahh

[quiet breach]

I played it for a few dungeons with hekili up as collosus

that's it

haven't had any interest in learning it but I will need to at some point

[modest condor]

slayer arms does negative aoe

[quiet breach]

in case fury becomes giga trash and arms is op at the same time

[quiet breach]

worse aoe then slayer fury?

[tawny umbra]

aight but what about this: execute is fun and having it low prio is sad

[white nest]

Execute still sucks, you legit just use it to reset blade storm.

[slim coral]

even arms execute isn't that insane

[young swan]

guys is the single target specs aoe better or is the aoe specs aoe better

[young swan]

sounds like it doesnt suck

[tawny umbra]

damn

bring back condemn

[young swan]

condemn wouldnt help

[summer quail]

execute does like 15% of fury st damage. that's pretty decent

[bitter palm]

me when condemn does less damage than regular execute

[young swan]

me when condemn doesnt matter cause slayer makes execute an always press button instead of a sometimes press button

[slim coral]

me when my cooldowns do nothing

[young swan]

rampage is a bad button cause u only press it to get reck back

but reck sucks

why press buttons at all

[stray sentinel]

/dance

[bitter palm]

rampage is a ballshd button

[young swan]

me when I have cooldowns all the time so i never really have cooldowns

[ornate gust]

how can I keybind my mouse right click when mouseover a nameplate for focus?

[young swan]

s2 df pov

s3 tww pov

[slim coral]

me when I press a big gcd as a filler

[tawny umbra]

looks cool

[young swan]

search for a mouseover focus macro, should be relatively easy to find

we already have the condemn animation

[tawny umbra]

do you guys use weakaura to track enrage

[tawny umbra]

red

[young swan]

it is red

u need to pay more attention

[modest condor]

uhhh

[tawny umbra]

i need to pay more attention

[slim coral]

just a resource tracker

like atrocity ui has a enrage tracker

[tawny umbra]

i really need to pay more attention

all I've been seeing is the tiny icon on my buffbar in top right cornern

[slim coral]

you should get an enrage tracke then

plenty of ui's have them

[drifting token]

luxthos wa also tracks enrage as well as whirlwind stacks right under tthe rage

[tawny umbra]

I found the enrage tracker

w

[dense fulcrum]

@slim coral didn’t know ur yt channel, gonna do a marathon after raid tonight and watch all the video in case i missed some tips here and there for some bosses 😄 thanks for sharing

[slim coral]

Appreciate it bud

[tepid cedar]

was running qith quazii. this is no fucking crit gear on a 16 flood... arms really aint doing that bad.

[radiant plank]

noo waaay

[tepid cedar]

yea i cant believe it. but had to run that bullshit class for the extra add/pull dps

[dense fulcrum]

I farmed dawnbreaker and streets for 2 rings and the neck for now so i can swap to arms and have decent stats

for some dgs

[heavy galleon]

they should up the 4P proc rate of slayer fury

for using more RB than BT for AoE

and make OF better

[young swan]

if they just made it work like regular reap u would probably unironically never press bt

[heavy galleon]

that's what we want on slayer tbh

like you are near to never press RB as thane

BT is so weak as slayer

[young swan]

thats like

a fundamental problem

with both specs rn

[heavy galleon]

in my mind, it's should be execute > rampage > RB > BT as filler

[summer quail]

absolutely not. slayer already presses way too much rb

[compact knot]

they gotta figure it the fuck out

[young swan]

ur mind has been warped by 4 years of blizzard fucking our rotation

[heavy galleon]

I don't know why they focus since DF on this fucking BT

[young swan]

there is no world where an ability that can be infinitely spammed should be higher prio than one that cant be

[young swan]

they havent

we have been RB merchants every single tier except for s3 df

[heavy galleon]

even rampage seems to be weaker and weaker

[chilly fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/arbys-arby-roast-beef-sandwich-cheese-gif-7214135158846693543

[summer quail]

it's not rampage being weaker. it's rb being stronger and stronger

[heavy galleon]

even as thane, BT is stronger than rampage right now

[young swan]

yes and its the same but for RB as slayer

[chilly fractal]

Only bad part about DF S3 was having to swear off Bacon Cheddar Classics for the time

[heavy galleon]

imagine you prefer BT than execute, what the fuck is going on

[young swan]

real

[heavy galleon]

execute is now a filler

[young swan]

execute should be a universally good button press

[summer quail]

i just prefer bt and exe over rb. they have a cd and cannot be spammed. rb can be spammed

[heavy galleon]

Execute, Bladestorm, and OF should be our signature spells

[young swan]

rampage

[heavy galleon]

yes true

[young swan]

i think OF is impossible to balance as a capstone

[heavy galleon]

Even as thane, execute should be strong

[bitter palm]

just dont make it a capstone then

ez solution

make it core

gg

[young swan]

i agree

i actually think u cooked with that idea

[heavy galleon]

all of our good abilities are now trash

OF is trash

CSHB is trash

[bitter palm]

imagine current thane with rework

[heavy galleon]

spear is trash

[summer quail]

i mean calling "cshb" one of our good abilities is a bit much

[bitter palm]

sending bb with bonegrinder

[heavy galleon]

CSHB was really good at BFA

[bitter palm]

mobs at 10%

[young swan]

would be so pogger

[bitter palm]

of get mbg

send bb

[summer quail]

sure, but alot of weird stuff was good in bfa. expansion was fukd

[bitter palm]

PACK EXECUTION

[heavy galleon]

look BFA details, and compare CSHB

same for OF and Legion

[rose bay]

wondering if we drop the left side of the tree eventually or atleast cshb

atleast for slaya singie

[bitter palm]

ngl i dont think a design where rampage is a huge amount of ur damage can be interesting

shift power away from rb into bt

more power into cds

and fury would fuck

[rose bay]

me like rampage hitting like a truck, bt rampage onslaught was fun

[summer quail]

more power into cds, we had that for a tiny bit. blizzard did not like it hahah

[rose bay]

tizz cause our cds have no cd

not gunna make something thats up 60-80% of the time worth a damn

[bitter palm]

cds had too much power

[forest swallow]

blizzz please just let fury warrior be a DPS spec.
We have no ultilty or anything to offer to raids and M+

let us top the meters for the cost of having nothing else to offer ( a cost we're already paying )

[bitter palm]

idk it was extremely boring in raid

got stale quick

even in m+

[young swan]

the difference is that those were built in core parts of the kit (cshb not as much but still) and can therefore be balanced around under the assumption that we will always have them

my theory is that its much harder to do that when you can get multiple "gameplay changers" at once

[bitter palm]

bt burst of power thane proc

bt oath blood proc

bb

[smoky vale]

hi can we get of cdr

[young swan]

no

[smoky vale]

with s1 ra

[bitter palm]

bt bt bb

gg

[young swan]

purge all random cdr

[smoky vale]

well it wasnt that random

[bitter palm]

hi can u explode

[smoky vale]

hmm

checking with my lawyers

[bitter palm]

explode57

[smoky vale]

nein

[bitter palm]

9

[young swan]

it was legit rng if u got of back from pressing on pull on tindral

dogshit design

[red berry]

are we bad rn

[young swan]

cdr just means the button has to be weaker

cool

[dapper goblet]

release the nerfs and buffs goober

i know you have them

[smoky vale]

okay

but they wont make the button cool anyways

so can i press it more

[bitter palm]

the only way i could get it back for first roots consistently was to send on pull unenraged

charge of

charge again

[hybrid yew]

anyone here tried arms and was previously fury? or vice versa tried arms after fury? performance difference noticed?

I saw an arms warior do omega damage with Demolish in M+ so i was intrigued, but i havent been Arms before

[summer quail]

got it back consistently. charge,bt(hope for enrage) then OF

[earnest shuttle]

one thing to understand... fury won't "shine" in particular pulls, Fury shine at the end of the dungeon and see the overall freakin damage you did

and Arms might do massive damage...but for limited time

[tepid cedar]

arms does consistent damage the entire pull

[bitter palm]

arms beats fury on overall for sure

in bigger pull dungeons

[hybrid yew]

i hold no loyalty to fury im just comfortable with it, i can be a meta slave if arms outperforms, LOL but if i recall both specs are also pretty close relatively speaking?

[olive wraith]

Arms has smol dmg on bosses

So really depends on the dmg profile you want

[hybrid yew]

seeing an arms warrior duke it out and do 16b overall / 10m DPS in a high key just makes me think

[olive wraith]

Ya it’s great for high target trash pulls

[tepid cedar]

not that much smaller than fury

that was swampface

[olive wraith]

That’s Colo?

[tepid cedar]

yep

with no crit gear

[olive wraith]

Did yall pull stuff onto it

[tepid cedar]

all fury shit with pace and cursed

1 set of 3

[olive wraith]

Hmm

[tepid cedar]

actualy did half mill more than my fury 15 run

that was a 16 i linked

its bc of the casino

[olive wraith]

You pulled the same stuff onto the boss in your fury pull?

[tepid cedar]

all it takes is getting unlucky

and ur dps as fury is ass

col has alot less rng variance i feel

unfortunately

and the extra dps on large puls saves a fucton of time

nowwww if u get a lucky run with alot of procs on tb ur golden

[chilly fractal]

Yea but maybe this next pull I have 100% RNG TBlast procs

[hybrid yew]

yeah my only concern is i got shit ton of haste/mastery but only like 18% crit

[tepid cedar]

but we reran the 16 flood 4x, the first 3 i was dury and i couldent get procs if i tried to buy them

then swapped arms and boom

[chilly fractal]

That’s a lot of crit

[tepid cedar]

same

i had to run cursed, pace, and the delve belt for crit

but the delve belt is better than my raid 717 on thane. only a slot makes the raid belt be better on thane for me

[hybrid yew]

i'm item level 704 as fury and on the 5 dummy cleave target with my burst window i can hit about 7.3ish mil

but i can keep up the sustain dps pretty well

i'll give arms a try for shits and giggles

[undone flower]

We are creating a symbiosis with the delve belt with our crit

[tepid cedar]

yea

i wisht hey would nerf this fucking belkt already

[young swan]

just get a mythic soulbinder belt

or any mythic belt

[tepid cedar]

so small lie on my end,
717 belt loses by 5k on st, and 53k on 8t

720 belt wins by 2k st, loses by 23k 8t

723 wints by 4k st and 1k 8t

[tepid cedar]

it is

[slim coral]

a 723 belt for me was like 83k

[tepid cedar]

wtf

[slim coral]

might be the stats

sim the cata version

that's what I did

[tepid cedar]

its virtualy same stats

like 30 less haste and 30-40 mast lets see

[slim coral]

yeah idk then

[tepid cedar]

where u on thane or slayer as well

[slim coral]

slayer

[tepid cedar]

yea

im talking bout thane

[slim coral]

pure ST

[tepid cedar]

for dungeons

its easy win on slayer

basically u need a 723, or a min 717+socket to beat delve belt for m+

[dim lynx]

hold on, so it's better slayer than thane on dungeons?

[coarse nest]

can replace belt sooner with screams i bet

since it has some crit

[olive wraith]

Different damage profiles

[tepid cedar]

screams is soooo bad brew on m+

[coarse nest]

ye I dont want it for M+

never prcs when you want it too

[tepid cedar]

yea

[coarse nest]

oh youre talking thane

ye i was talking slayer st

[tepid cedar]

i think the only universal trink will be antena for raid and m+, then u run sac or cursed for m+

[coarse nest]

cursed is cursed alright

forever hating it 😄

[tepid cedar]

its amazing

i hate the cast time though

remove cast time and its a+

[coarse nest]

exactly LOL

[summer quail]

can move during it, so it's not that bad

[tepid cedar]

so anmoying having a tb and having a 1sec cast on trink

i jsut wanna tb

lol

[coarse nest]

clunkifys the opener

meh

[tepid cedar]

lol

ive gotten in the habbit of leaping away on a pull

only to hit my charge trink avatar macro

to not deal with cast time

lololol

[feral ivy]

i love this rotation Reck>charge>game shuts down> log in death

[stoic galleon]

it shuts down because you forgot to use avatar

[fickle cedar]

and they say fire is bad, smh

[plush zephyr]

Archon good 👍

[modest condor]

typical mages sandbagging at the start of the tier so they can pop off later smh my head

[coarse nest]

1.7b ez

[chilly fractal]

684 ilvl too

[coarse nest]

torhgast buffs go hard

[chilly fractal]

Didn’t even get PI

They could’ve done more

[worldly spoke]

so do i need to be pushing bloodthirst on cd for thunder blast procs? im looking at top logs and my thunder blast cast are just so far behind

[fading sky]

Wtf happened

[worldly spoke]

i assume alot more bloodthirst and less rampage will lead to more thunderblast procs?

[bitter palm]

yes

tb>bt>ramp>rb

from ur breakdown u rb too much

and rampage too much

[feral ivy]

ive been in PSF and FG to farm weapon and holy fuck im exhausted of these dungeons lol and if i get it tomorrow mythic vault idk if i will be happy or mad

[snow vapor]

Thane or Slayer for HM tazzy? Or is it a per-boss split. How we feelin

[modest condor]

this damage breakdown looks crazy, what even is it from?

[coarse nest]

Thane on trash and st or 2t slayer on bosses

or just play 2t slayer the whole time lol

[chilly fractal]

I just play Slayer the whole time

Trash DPS is whatever odds are you’re sitting around waiting for lust a lot anyway

[sullen dove]

wtf insta removed

or meme

but wanted to see it either way

need to use those strats

[snow vapor]

rgr that's what I was thinking too but wanted to confirm

[young swan]

no reason to play anything but slayer

ur not under a time limit so no reason to pull more than one pack

and u can just wait for cds before every boss

[young swan]

log deleted

[sullen dove]

yea

[slim coral]

atleast in midnights we'll finally be able to take OF

without having to give up anything

[upbeat blade]

wait how do you figure this

[slim coral]

we'll be getting 3 talent points in spec trees

[jolly parrot]

New buffs

[slim coral]

and class trees

[jolly parrot]

No warrior

[upbeat blade]

ooo yeah, guess so

[warm crag]

i will talent onslaught and not press it

[bitter palm]

its high in the tree in the rework

[modest condor]

4, and those are going into the new talents

[slim coral]

they said they don't have to go into the new talents

[modest condor]

they dont have to

but you know they will

[slim coral]

nah ours will be useless

just like capstones

[modest condor]

25% crit chance on execute

[slim coral]

10% stamina

[modest condor]

dude buffing the tierset from 10% crit chance to 25% crit chance was the funniest thing ever

did literally nothing

[young swan]

yeah which we will totally be able to spend on real talents without griefing

[slim coral]

surely with our rework it will work

[young swan]

my brain think speculating is useless rn

dev blogs will be coming soon

have no cares thinking about whats gonna be good

[olive wraith]

Please keep tb resets

[young swan]

yeah I think that would be good to push for

[radiant plank]

giga imgur

[young swan]

same with SD proccing Slayer strikes

[olive wraith]

Ye both play styles are so good rn

I’d hate to lose the feel for either

[sullen dove]

think like a majority of current tiersets are just getting slapped into the hero talents

since they gettin 3 more points too

they just feel way better this season

sure thane can lowroll and it feels like the most dogshit worthless spec in the game but it leaves u excited about it at least

didnt rly gaf about thane before this season like at all it was just "m+ spec"

[charred panther]

TB feels so dang good to press, lol

[young swan]

tb feels good when u get proccies

[storm rune]

except when you hold gcds for 5 seconds and rip aggro immediately with the first TB that sets off 🙁

[charred panther]

Wish thunderc wasnt 40% or my dmg in some form or another but feels gr8

[warm crag]

needs a hotfix to instantly refund the tb proc but respect the gcd

[charred panther]

Flippin Odynson in this piece!

that bRm dmg too

[slim coral]

surely with how bad the midnights info release was we get lots of info this week

esp with alpha coming up in a week or two

[restive onyx]

Hi, new to fury! Do I have to cast reck on cd or wait for avatar to align?

[fading sky]

Cast reck

[feral ivy]

GIVE ME MY FUCKEN WEAPON lol another carry so ignore hutner

[young swan]

i think it was a fine info release

carrot on a stick

[young swan]

yeah but it wont happene

unless they make it a hero talent

[slim coral]

on cd

[restive onyx]

Thanks! I’ll have it macro’d to rampage then

[warm crag]

why not keybind it seperately

[modest condor]

[olive wraith]

Why?

[worldly spoke]

uhh 10 eco

[worldly spoke]

thank you senpai

[restive onyx]

It actually is keybinded separately, just a precaution in case I dont press it

[olive wraith]

Much better

[worldly spoke]

where does execute prio fall in on single and aoe?

[modest condor]

right above pressing nothing

[olive wraith]

For thane?

Ye what silm said

[warm crag]

this is still bad, what if you want to hit the enemies but the pack is about to die

[modest condor]

basically lowest prio, only above thunderclap on st

[warm crag]

just kneecapping yourself by not having control over when you can actually press the button

[restive onyx]

Gotcha, i’ll just create a weakura to track it then when its off cd

[warm crag]

king shit

[cobalt relic]

I see so many ppl play arms in higher keys

is it that superior

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1073246901606039654/1139748703297613956/Media_221119_135304.gif

[olive wraith]

It’s got higher overalls

Cause trash damage

[cobalt relic]

never tried arms

zzzzzzz

[olive wraith]

Don’t have to. I still think fury is generally better

[jolly parrot]

Arms boss dmg slacs

[woven valley]

If all you care about are numbers go play meta classes

I play warrior cause big stick go bonk

[olive wraith]

I mean. A lot of people didn’t play fury last tier cause it was pretty bad

[woeful crown]

Do we press BT during ravager ? Kind of confused since it feels like spam bt to get tb and then go boom

[modest condor]

prio doesnt change during ravager, so yeah if bt is your highest prio you press it

[charred flint]

I've been tryin to pug an ara kara 12 for the last 3 days and i wont get invited

sadge

[woeful crown]

Ty

[eager thorn]

[modest condor]

grats

[eager thorn]

fun boss

tyty

[iron portal]

Now hunters became...hunted

[lime egret]

Chunky

This shit is fun

[open prairie]

lmao

i saw a 12m overall hunter

on a 10 fg

[lime egret]

Yeah ngl this hunter was absolutely boosted

Probs only did decent dmg cos theirs was so ass

[open prairie]

though tbh 713 ilvl rn is

bigly

[lime egret]

That's giga aye

[open prairie]

brew damage is always funny to watch too

[hollow leaf]

wait I haven't seen anything about a rework

link?

[lofty maple]

What trinkets yall rocking for keys I just got cursed stone idol and have antenna

[bitter palm]

gotta edge it for now

trollface

[young swan]

i would use those

[warm crag]

what the helly

surely you topped hte meters

[warm crag]

chatgpt rework when?

[bitter palm]

imgur for now

[harsh fractal]

you have the BIS. I wouldn’t worry about it after that point

[warm crag]

2 bt charges would go hard

i dont know why we'd care

[eager thorn]

nah we had a ret pal on top

i had a few pulls with giga procs, like 5 tb resets in a row at multiple times but wasnt meant to be sadly

[slim coral]

Fury is meta confirmed

[slim coral]

we going down the xan rework tree again?

[warm crag]

wouldve timed it as arms

[slim coral]

we basically 2 chested it

was off by like 30 seconds

[warm crag]

dont have to project little baze

[slim coral]

14 eco

ngl

it's kinda crazy people put fury in c tier

[radiant plank]

gigaimgur drop

@bitter palm

[young swan]

feel like c-tier is still a pretty fair ranking

high-c/low-b

[bitter palm]

gigaimgur drop soon

[harsh fractal]

C is fair. It’s worse than the other melee: rogue, havoc, ret, dk. Prot is strong so dps warr will get the same treatment that havoc got last tier.

[young swan]

i dont think we're worse than ret

[harsh fractal]

if you play with good players, you will quickly realize that ret does a ton of damage in aoe rn

Definitely more than warrior

[hollow leaf]

Well ye they're uncapped

[young swan]

yeah but like

they only do big aoe dam

theres nothing that accompanies it

we can do just as much with relatively average luck

[dense elbow]

Ret ST ain't bad either tho

[hollow leaf]

A good ret can do p good st

When people asked me what damage profile arms is I just say it's ret with better st

[dense elbow]

Doesn't help em much if they don't play or with Ret tho

[harsh fractal]

but yeah fury is basically one of the weakest melee specs in m+ rn. Obviously good warrior players make it look decent, but it’s quite behind

[young swan]

yeah fury not great

[hollow leaf]

I'm gearing my fdk

[young swan]

im gearing my ele

(slowly)

[hollow leaf]

Not going through warr lfg again

[young swan]

ive been enjoying thane tho

[young swan]

w

[hollow leaf]

Is fun

[dense elbow]

I am gearing my warrior, because warrior scales with gear

[hollow leaf]

Xan stop playing on bad region

We could've geared

[dense elbow]

Just turn off dps meters or play with players you are better than... GG ez top DPS as Fury

[young swan]

moving to germany is not impossible

but i dont think id ever want to start from scratch

[hollow leaf]

And no timed keys

[young swan]

i wish they'd just unlock regions

its so dumb

for some reason NA can play to SA but not to EU

[clever belfry]

good move from your c*untry

[young swan]

even tho its like the same geographic distance

even worse is NA with OCE

[hollow leaf]

I had an na account in df for friends and starting from absolute scratch in this game is brutal

[clever belfry]

i mean if u get east coast server

its like 110ms for me here

which is not half bad honestly

[young swan]

yeah its not bad at all

i raided from UK to east coast back in bfa

[clever belfry]

oi bruv

[hollow leaf]

Yaurr goh a loicense foh thah game toime

[young swan]

honestly the worst part about it is the tiemzone diff 💀

theres a nice little 3 week long sweet spot when we swap to dst and you guys havent thats pretty good

[storm rune]

dragonspine trophy?

[sullen dove]

daylight savings time

[earnest olive]

When is next catalyst charge?

[young swan]

reset after next

[olive wraith]

Bshout>ret

[slim coral]

Ain’t no way range pov

[young swan]

i didn't feel like playing feral

kitty super fun but i just cant stand stealth classes

[radiant plank]

twins

[young swan]

@smoky vale can u key tonight

[smoky vale]

define tonight

i have raid in 2:45

and i go jiu jitsu in 30

i can give you a druid who needs to do keys

[sinful spoke]

i love pugging

[fickle cedar]

i dont blame him i just click apply

[smoky vale]

nvm xan

@young swan can key

[young swan]

what happened

[sullen dove]

chungus

[smoky vale]

labor day moment

so i forgor

[sullen dove]

dont think martial arts takes rest days

or jiu jitsu is for babies

jujutsu peak

i dont think im doing 6 more vault keys on warrior

[young swan]

come get vault keys with showingbelly

[sullen dove]

yea

can do 1 b4 skedaddle idk where this gio guy is tho

[young swan]

hes walking his dog

just got back

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/zenless-zone-zero-zzz-miyabi-ears-neko-gif-452346671575291907

[quiet breach]

i always fill the lust slot with a DPS unless I get a good looking resto shaman before I pick a luster

or evoker ig I forgot healer evokers exist

nobody plays this spec

[hardy vault]

can we charge webs wall on loom mythic without being stun ?

[sinful spoke]

try it

see what happens

[olive wraith]

Don’t do it

[hallow cipher]

anyone tried champions spear in m+ ?

[sinful spoke]

try it let us know how it does

[hallow cipher]

sims high but , havent played that since like shadowlands

[warm crag]

@clever belfry need your opinion on this

[clever belfry]

all ears

[olive wraith]

People use it yes

[digital arrow]

Yeah its dec if mobs are clumped

The 25% extra crit dam cpmbined with idol goes hard

[feral ivy]

can you wear heritage armor transmog on others now?

[silk wharf]

Technically yes, if you race change and only until you log out. But typically no.

[peak pine]

which effect do i use on the delve belt?

[feral ivy]

so many ppl in valdraken wtf

[slim coral]

WHat is going on

why is there 30 people on their mounts

[uneven halo]

How bad is single minded fury? I"m sure this gets asked all the time but as a prot tank is it terrible to run 1handers when I'm fury?

[warm crag]

if you have no other options or dont care about optimizing at all its fine

but it is very significantly behind 2x 2h

[steep fable]

wondering if we should run screams trinket even if sims say another trinket is "better" in 3 target due to the prio damage and the adds not lasting all that long right? (soulbinder, nexus king, dimmy)

[olive wraith]

10ish %

[chilly fractal]

For Dimmy part of the problem is your stacks in P1 don't carry to P3 and you don't get stacks on the boss at all in P2

I haven't gotten a chance to use it yet

[feral ivy]

tomorrow we get the option to skip to nexus king .. i forgot can we go backwards? nexus>frac>hutners?

[serene socket]

Hows slayer aoe rotation work exactly? whirlwind feels weird trying to incorporate with enrage timings. do you usually "whirlwind->rampage->blow->blow->rampage"? Or are you just sending rampage whenever to you can and not trying to get SS stacks like in single

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/miyabi-hoshimi-miyabi-i'm-all-ears-im-all-ears-miyabi-im-all-ears-hoshimi-miyabi-gif-1067293683967029173

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/stitch-licks-slime-gif-7826310196799265789

[bitter palm]

https://tenor.com/view/true-get-this-man-a-true-go-my-true-whatever-go-my-true-gif-16382191100563919909

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/true-truth-nuke-hoshimi-miyabi-miyabi-miyabi-zzz-gif-5836806472431081026

[olive wraith]

Don’t worry about ss stacks unless it’s after bs

You don’t have to ww while enraged tbh

[serene socket]

i must be forgetting something, why do we only worry about SS stacks after BS?

[olive wraith]

Rampage gets 50% damage after bs

Makes it worthwhile to stack ss then

[sudden tusk]

the optimization for that is however very miniscule

[serene socket]

omg im an idiot i didnt even realize

well the problem was i assumed you were supposed to just spam rb and let rage overcap all the same, had not realized it was only due to that BS buff....

[chilly fractal]

We getting lucky on vaults tomorrow?

[vale niche]

Hope you like sacbroods

[chilly fractal]

Would I take one? Yes

@sudden tusk What we hoping for this week, big dog

[sudden tusk]

gotta be weppy or a solid catalyst slot

[sullen tendon]

unfortunate that fury is back to the same position it was at last season already

[chilly fractal]

Ight im looking forward to the vault vid tomorrow

[earnest canyon]

Anyone in the game right now that can do me a quick test/favor by adjusting 1 UI option and telling me what happens?

[chilly fractal]

I’m just hoping for a solid catalyst and at least a Screams or Antenna out of heroic clear

[sudden tusk]

mythic antenna while a small upgrade would go hard

[chilly fractal]

Screams I have a greater chance at getting as a drop… of course out of the vault Myth Antenna would be insta pick

I think only 1 of our DHs sims higher for Heroic Screams

Over 100k DPS for him somehow since I guess he has at least 1 horrible trinket

We’ve seen 1 normal and 1 heroic Antenna so far and 0 screams

[open prairie]

screams is kind on massive on dh

crit being their best stat and their crit damage amp from talent affects items

[modest condor]

bruh i got like 6 4set procs in the first 10 seconds of a bossfight

why cant i get that on trash

[chilly fractal]

What happened to the BM Hunter

[chilly fractal]

Yea I would’ve assumed that if it wasn’t hardly an upgrade for our other DH

[open prairie]

we had like 3 normal screams drop

week 1

[chilly fractal]

We’ve seen a lot of belts and the mace

[open prairie]

me when a boss drops 3 belts

i could have sworn the mace is just a flavor effect

+unique model i guess

[wary fjord]

it is a flavor effect

all it does is loot

like, 40yd range loot

[open prairie]

Well thats somewhat useful

[wary fjord]

i wish it could be done while moving

[chilly fractal]

I meant the hammer off Dimmy but now that you mention it

we've seen a lot of the Salad Bar Mace too

[echo meteor]

When practicing rotation against a sim, do you guys aim for a % of it? Can't beat a sim right? I'm trying to get feedback myself.
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/28MaNxWBHM3bmRCWfAPEVv
I get to 2.9m generally but sims 3.2m

[young swan]

@junior gale do u wanna do more..

[restive peak]

Run a sim with the buffs you'll have on the dummy, not w lust/all buffs etc turned on

[junior gale]

I got time for one or 2 more yeah

[echo meteor]

It is with only buffs I have

[chilly fractal]

I think a Target Dummy sim does that by default, no?

[open prairie]

Why is battleshout disabled

[echo meteor]

Not sure I missed that doesn't let me choose it though, is this a "target dummy" limitation?

Answered my own question. disabled raid buffs 'may be used' o.O

[lunar steeple]

on fract.. can i leap out of the knockback break or will it not break the wall behind me

[oak peak]

how many times should i RB after BS? up to 5?

[modest condor]

as many as you can fit before enrage runs out

[winter shoal]

There's no constant number, you RB until you need to refresh enrage, use your high-prio exe conditions, or obviously run out of charges

[oak peak]

yeah i was just wondering if there's a max. looks like 5 is where it maxes out

[winter shoal]

Yes the max stacks of SS is 5, but you shouldn't always stack it to 5 after a BS

[oak peak]

not that you can get many more inside enrage

[winter shoal]

It's possible but not likely

If you have 2-3 stacks going in, get an enrage refresh from unhinged, then 2-3 more RB after

[oak peak]

basically just as many charges as you get within the enrage window

[winter shoal]

Yes but still lower prio than your exe conditions

[oak peak]

ahh gotcha. wasnt sure which one was top priority there

thanks

[winter shoal]

Wowhead guide will generally always be up to date with rotational stuff like that

[unborn delta]

why are crit procs so good for us but flat crit is so bad?

i feel like our bis trinket every phase is a crit proc

[modest condor]

because a bad stat can still be good if you get a lot of it

[worn rain]

also dopamine

[tiny flame]

question , as MT using M+ spec, is Raging Blow a priority before rampage due to that 20% stacking?

seems like rotation guide says its more like filler

[worn rain]

RB for MT stinky

you fish for TB procs with BT, RB is last in priority

[jovial summit]

is king salhadaar bugged with the tank combo rn?

[brittle crow]

thats an awfully vague question to ask in the fury channel

[undone flower]

What would be the bug ? I didn’t hear about one

[steel steppe]

is there a reason to use bladestorm after a fresh enrage? it seems to always keep refreshing the enrage anyway

[brittle crow]

cuz sometimes it doesnt

if ur unlucky

[olive wraith]

To spam rb after bs ends

[steel steppe]

yeah that makes sense so even if it takes like 3-4 gcds to get a fresh enrage its still better im assuming unless you lose a full use

[earnest canyon]

are you in wow atm?

[olive wraith]

Yes

[earnest canyon]

can u do me a quick favor?

[olive wraith]

Depends

[earnest canyon]

go to options > graphics, tick "Use UI scale" and drag it less than 100% and click apply. Tell me if it makes your UI bigger instead of smaller....

[brittle crow]

that makes it smaller

silly goose

[earnest canyon]

even 65% is larger than 100%....greater than 100% makes it larger too

it should aye

but it doesnt

[brittle crow]

hhrrrmmmm

[earnest canyon]

I can find a bug report from 2024 with the exact same problem, but it still isnt fixed

[brittle crow]

are u sure u are setting it to 65% and not 650%

warrior brain, perhaps

[earnest canyon]

yes....

I need more space for dimensius so want to scale my UI for once, but it is broken

only alternative is to render at a higher rez I guess

or im wondering if one of the fancy graphics options breaks it

I have most things outside of raid on ultra even though it says base quality 5

[brittle crow]

i have everything at ultra and it works fine 2 my knowledge

for me

so prob not

[earnest canyon]

try it

[brittle crow]

gonna kms

ok

[earnest canyon]

?

[brittle crow]

lemme boot up wow

[earnest canyon]

it worked in the past cos i used to play on a shitty work laptop, but im talking around mop time

[brittle crow]

oh, so it is broken

its broke af lmao

[earnest canyon]

yes

as I said

[brittle crow]

115 is like triple scale and 65% is like double

gg

[earnest canyon]

i need to find a work around I guess, I reckon you can edit the config file manually but its a pain cos it will need a reboot each time to check

[brittle crow]

if i had to guess

config file will do the same thing

theres no reason that slider would lie to u about what its setting ur ui scale to

the ui scale function itself is fucked, not the slider

[earnest canyon]

I wouldnt assume that

[brittle crow]

i bet u a dollar rn

[earnest canyon]

you are probably right, but I wouldnt assume it

[brittle crow]

u can edit the cfg file while its hot anyways iirc

just have to save and /rl

no need to reboot

[earnest canyon]

nah

[brittle crow]

ya

[earnest canyon]

i just tried it

[brittle crow]

me when i spread misinformation on the internet ig

[earnest canyon]

but anyway, all it does is set the slider float

doesnt actually affect the UI, and if i tick the box it deletes my variable from the config file

maybe its finally time to go 4k lmao

[brittle crow]

4k is a meme tbh

1440p good

[earnest canyon]

I dont just play wow, but yes, I had the choice when I bought my 1080ti to go 4k 6ohz or 1440p 144hz (those were the fastest you could get at the time, and this was the first 144hz IPS with gsync), so I went with that

I could easily push 4k in most games now though

[brittle crow]

i care abt ultrawide and framerate more than 4k so 1440p is where im gonna live forever prob

idc what anyone tells me i do not care abt the difference between 2k and 4k

[earnest canyon]

fair enough

[brittle crow]

and im not abt to go buy a 5090 to run 4k games at reasonable framerates xd

[earnest canyon]

same

you are pushing a lot more pixels at 4k, and then 8k is crazy

[brittle crow]

if anyone ever tells me to my face that i need an 8k display i am gonna call the cops on them

[earnest canyon]

haha

[placid lion]

with Slaughtering Strikes in ST, Am i build to 5 then pushing BT?

the guide just says build

[brittle crow]

bt has nothing to do w slaughtering strikes

u press bt when u need to as filler

[hardy shuttle]

Dont worry about SS at all. Minor gain to use up all raging blow charges after each bladestorm before you rampage

[slim coral]

You build to 5 then rampage

You never bt in ST unless you have nothing up

[placid lion]

oh my bad i thought the icon for Bloodcraze was SS

dumb brain

[steel steppe]

do you spend rage at less than 115 while recklessness is up? guides dont seem to mention anything but feels weird that itd just be better to overcap

[olive wraith]

Ya you can

[smoky vigil]

That’s only after Bladestorm right to stack with Brutal Finish?

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-lie-detector-cap-you-are-lying-stop-lying-gif-12198388917433403789

[sullen dove]

yea dont worry about bc

[patent kiln]

What settings do you guys use to sim for keys?

[final vapor]

5p 3 min

[eager thorn]

yes

but you still wanna prio execute when the wa tells you so you prob wont get 5 raging blows in that much, since you want to make sure you stay enraged too

[slim coral]

I do it just fine

[late stratus]

i mean u cant get this 5rb stacks without overcappin can u?

• ur getting execute procs

[olive wraith]

Youre overcapping regardless after bs

[late stratus]

yeh but lets say outside of that. Just doing normal st rotation

There is no way we stacking 5 rb before rampage right

[storm birch]

missed 15 streets by 40 sec because i guess imprison causes the enforcer pack to blink up to last boss? wiped us D:

was such a solid run for me lmao I'm salty

[winter shoal]

You generally should not build to 5

It might happen sometimes but you shouldn't be aiming to

You stack SS as much as naturally happens by you following the APL, but not past 5

[olive wraith]

You ignore ss in the regular rotation

[olive wraith]

Using slayer on streets?

[signal steeple]

Is it possible for someone to tell me what I need to improve to push past the ~85 parse range? I thought I was playing decently well but WCL disagrees. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/kYXMZybFftzdg2wV?fight=36&type=damage-done&source=7 Just not rampaging enough?

[olive wraith]

At a very quick glance it seems like you’re casting bt a lot

Couple times you just instant casted ramp after bs(a tiny optimization but one that could help boost you up a little)

[signal steeple]

Oh the rotation changed a lot for season 3.

Welp back to the training dummy. Thanks 😄

[sullen dove]

also just in general a lot of the time the "higher parses" are from people where most of the group members are also doing a lot of dps

cause the faster you kill a boss usually the higher dps you finish at cuz its less time after the lust

[signal steeple]

True

Could have sworn bloodthirst was higher on rotation

[smoky vale]

no

[sullen dove]

like can def still maybe 99 if you are giga insane but a lot of the times it'd just be that much better to have killed the boss in like 2:30 rather than 5 minutes

[smoky vale]

yeah

do not press bt 63 times

[sullen dove]

ig my fastest kill is 3:16

[quick dock]

#1 parse on fractilus mythic right now does 54 bloodthirsts in 5 minutes

[olive wraith]

I’m pretty sure unhinged counts

[smoky vale]

casts or instances of damage

[sullen dove]

psure unhinged is still a cast

[smoky vale]

hmm

[quick dock]

I imagine that would be really hard to map out how many times they actually hit it

[sullen dove]

33 casts of bt on a heroic fract and almost all are in a quick window https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Rn3KafFd1ht8BxvV?fight=38&type=damage-done&source=32&ability=23881&view=events

just like any bt's that arent immediately surrounded with another bt in the next less than a second

[smoky vale]

it would just be if there are 3-5 bts in a 4s ignore those

[olive wraith]

I mean we rarely press the button itself. So you can scroll through and count

Doubt there’s a way to filter out unhinged casts

[signal steeple]

I think I manually cast it about 20 times of 63, but no way to know.

[olive wraith]

You can count em lol

[quick dock]

I believe it's 7 on the #1 parse.

[olive wraith]

That sounds believable

[quick dock]

definitely below 10 for sure

[storm birch]

nah I just feel better on thane idk

I get the reasoning behind slayer on streets especially tho

[olive wraith]

I think that’s gonna be the only key I swap to slayer tbh

[storm birch]

Yea all the others thane I think just outperforms. I did just run a 14 eco dome as slayer. It was decent-ish. I played sloppy and died first pull to something so dumb

had 6.47m overall

[olive wraith]

I do like slayer for the worm boss

I guess I could see the argument for Dawn as well

[storm birch]

It's a tough one. I really think thane is just more well rounded since you will inevitably deal with <2 targets at some point

and thane just does that better than it doesn't do boss dmg in comparison to slayer

in my experience

but i think it's flexible enough that someone can play what they enjoy more especially on those specific dungeons

[olive wraith]

Fair

Thane do be good

[restive peak]

Runnin slayer on streets/gambit/DB/eco dome

Arms on the other 4 prob at this point tbh

[olive wraith]

Oh gambit is pretty big

[earnest canyon]

Are you full bis yet it's been 3 weeks

[olive wraith]

Soleah and dragon are scary

[restive peak]

Ye seems like the boss dam for gambit is just way way better, the 1st area is the only place you're "weaker" for not being thane

[hushed gust]

yeah- but the big murloc pull! it invites a juicy spear window.

[restive peak]

If you think you'll ever see me with spear barring a massive buff you're drunk son

[olive wraith]

Arms would be way better if you just wanna pad murlocs

[quiet breach]

can someone please explain what the cannon sound is on dawnbreaker

[restive peak]

I just think if you're really gonna minmax it's either slayer for prio/boss, or arms

[quiet breach]

also why is there sometimes one and sometimes a bunch

[hushed gust]

maybe, but we're in the fury channel, not arms

[restive peak]

Thane is weaker arms

[earnest canyon]

Probably a cannon

[olive wraith]

Thane still has better st no?

[quiet breach]

except I take hella damage when it happens

[quiet breach]

I am still top damage on most bosses as thane

[restive peak]

Thane has a bit better ST than arms, but it has worse AOE barring high-roll procs

[olive wraith]

I think thane is just easier to maximize too

[restive peak]

It's prob just that arms is the best for overall AOE, thane is the middle ground, slayer is the better prio/ST

But the middle ground is rarely a good thing for the group as a whole

Usually you'd rather have people doing 1 or the other

[olive wraith]

I’m big skill issue in messing up demolish and sweeping strikes windows

[restive peak]

xD

[olive wraith]

I fail at optimizing the kit

[radiant plank]

who we capping with this st bs

it sucks asss vs arms in st

[sullen dove]

in keys?

[radiant plank]

bleed build colossus

smokes thane st

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jordan-packwatch-rip-bozo-walking-l-goat-gif-24917561

[sullen dove]

did feel decent like 2 times ive tried it

[olive wraith]

Fuck do I really have to learn arms

[young swan]

no

[radiant plank]

Yes

[young swan]

learn a diff clas

[radiant plank]

red class

[olive wraith]

I do have a red baby alt

[radiant plank]

Can i skim your logs for Ele info

[olive wraith]

But I like Brown too much

[young swan]

i am not good at ele

and also

my ele is 690

still so much to learn