fury

[lost saffron]

Mods, bust his balls

[warm umbra]

F

[unreal onyx]

Guildmate of mine git banned on 3 diff accounts during our prog in DF S3

For rmt

Had to make a new rogue every time and equip from scratch

[pseudo cedar]

Whats rmt?

[unreal onyx]

He didnt get any loot after the 2nd one to not waste it on the char

[warm umbra]

Real money trading

I assume

[unreal onyx]

Yes

Real money trading/transfer or whatever

Selling gold for cash

[warm umbra]

Well he knew the risks

[unreal onyx]

Or reverse

[pseudo cedar]

u just cant make gold in wow anymore. Used to farm herbs into pots/flasks till Legion and i was legit independant from blizz store. Had consums for 4 raiding chars and was buying tokens for 98k Gold + Spare gold for shit. Now with same farming i barelly make my mats for raiding.

cant make gold besides selling bosts etc etc ofc

[unreal onyx]

You can farm boe's

[sullen dove]

yea I mean got Druid bot multiboxers doin allat grinding

Actually farming a gathering profession is like ancient game lore

unheard of in modern era

idek why I still have mining trained like it’s fun to lvl up as I lvl up in a new expansion but I am never gonna sit there and spend more than 5 minutes flying around mining nodes

[pseudo cedar]

yea but my point is..... people used to play wow for ''free'' just with in-game gold. Now you just cant do that.

[sullen dove]

eh yea I mean there are still avenues there just a lot more effort

[unreal onyx]

Boosting is still playing wow for free

[sullen dove]

ppl do go pretty in depth into crafting

[lost saffron]

tbf, if you only buy and dont sell, usually you are fine its very odd to get banned 3 times for buying

[sullen dove]

and if u train popular items you’re likely to get a lot of tips from ppl looking to craft early in a season at least

[velvet flower]

im so bad at this game and its weird seeing people who are worse

[lost saffron]

(doesnt mean its allowed)

[unreal onyx]

He was doing both very regularly bc he was boosting high keys

[pseudo cedar]

no no no. Tried that with max Echanting. Engineering. JCing allraedu into TWW. Proffs wont make you enough money to pay the ''rent'' mate

[lost saffron]

Ah ofc then

[sullen dove]

someone in my guild has just been like both our guild and like the entire “server” crafter basically

he has like 10 alts he maxes all professions on and just advertises on trade chat a lot

wild amount of work but it’s kind of gigachad

actual master craftsman

[lost saffron]

doesnt really take that much work

[unreal onyx]

DF S1/2 neck crafters made bank early in the seasons

[lost saffron]

you just level them then do weekly shit

[velvet flower]

you just have to get in early or get lucky

[pseudo cedar]

nvm you're just too new to understand.

[sullen dove]

eh even the leveling of the alts is more than I’d be willing to do

lulwut

[lost saffron]

yeh i mean

most gold and irl money is made because people do stuff others cba to do

thats why it makes money

[unreal onyx]

Cross-realm trading also tanked the price of a lot of things

[sullen dove]

also not to throw a wrench but like all 3 of those profs u mentioned are kind of worthless

engineering does nothing for anyone anymore and both enchanting and jewelcrafting all things that come out of it are just items to put on an auction house

[pseudo cedar]

what are you talking about? Maxing anything into start of any expansion requires tons of played hours and gold (which is either by buing or multiboxing, which is also spending RL money)

[sullen dove]

the like real armor/weapon crafting professions are what people tip for

[velvet flower]

neck crafters absolutely made millions

[pseudo cedar]

yea, add herb/alchem into these but u lost the point

[lost saffron]

nah not really

[velvet flower]

I'm not sure what you're even arguing prut lol

[lost saffron]

you dont seem to have ever done it

[unreal onyx]

The bis neck for basically any class was learned by a rare drop recipe. If you had that recipe early you could ask for basically any price and ppl would pay, since it was their bis

[sullen dove]

no point to lose just needed to try bs/lw/tailoring think are the most relevant

oh yea that crafted neck

fucking lariat

man df crafting was something else

[lost saffron]

the reason why people can max anything at the start of the expansion

is literally because its made in a way where you can finish it fast

[bitter palm]

lariat

hooly

[lost saffron]

otherwise people wouldnt be able to get it at the start

[unreal onyx]

You gotta have money to make money

[pseudo cedar]

not arguing, saying u dont know jack shit. Saying that you pay wow by tips of orders?

[sullen dove]

It’s crazy how lariat was broken in s1 and everyone wanted it and then they instantly killed it for future seasons

[bitter palm]

but lariat was expensive

cause

[sullen dove]

rare drop

[velvet flower]

you're being combative for no reason so chill bruh it's WoW

[sullen dove]

From like fuckin world events or something no

[bitter palm]

the recipe dropped from that fuck ass

[velvet flower]

that's not even what people were saying in the first place

[bitter palm]

nohkud world event

[unreal onyx]

Yea from the weekly cache I think

[bitter palm]

on killing some random mobs

[lost saffron]

it seems youre the one who doesnt know jack shit

[bitter palm]

love automod

enchanting was huge iirc tww s1

[velvet flower]

I've never blocked anyone on discord before but it's getting close

[bitter palm]

also

[unreal onyx]

DF S1 lariat crafters on popular servers still buying their consumes off that money

[bitter palm]

sophic devotion

@sullen dove

remember sophic

[pseudo cedar]

yesterday i tipped sm1 for crafting me a shield with 1500 gold. He was thanking me like 5 mins. Now he just needs to repeat that 1500 times wow

[sullen dove]

Remember the primal order or something

[bitter palm]

it was like 200k

[sullen dove]

I mean some people aren’t as cheap I tip like 5k for my guild crafts usually

[bitter palm]

i made a lot of gold mining random shit

[velvet flower]

did you know that there's other things beside crafting order tips that you can use to make money in wow

[bitter palm]

in df s1

[sullen dove]

it’s not like you expect to make a ton off every single person

but u might come across people that have more gold than they know what to do with and are feeling generous for a good job

[bitter palm]

boost

[lost saffron]

thats definitely how a system like that works

[velvet flower]

it's not as easy as like fucking wod to make money but it's not that bad lol

[lost saffron]

xdd

[sullen dove]

I wasted money on silly stuff in df tho…

[bitter palm]

hey how much for x item at y ilvl r3 mats

30k

...

[unreal onyx]

I just cba to farm for hours to make like 50k gold

[sullen dove]

Me when I buy like 1000 dreaming essence to try and flip them

[bitter palm]

i will explode you

[velvet flower]

unfortunately i cant make money playing wow on my phone while taking a shit so money making sucks obvi

[sullen dove]

and it didn’t matter

Minus 150k

[lost saffron]

wod you made most money by boosting cm, nowadays its still. boosting. i dont think it got harder xd

[velvet flower]

@lost saffron yeah but your average person (me) could make hundreds of ks a week from garrisons

[unreal onyx]

I just boost 8 10s a week and get a few gold in with stuff I would do anyways

[bitter palm]

i just loot boes

[lost saffron]

makes sense

[bitter palm]

s4 fyrakk boosting

was free gold

[sullen dove]

I just do like 1 raid a week on an alt

[unreal onyx]

Thats what I will do once myth is no longer bop

[sullen dove]

Fyrakk was fun

[bitter palm]

piss easy esp when it isnt in the rota

[sullen dove]

Many gold from owling

[bitter palm]

u are doing like

40% damage

and it has the same hp

gg

[unreal onyx]

S4 was a joke of a season

[sullen dove]

I went into tww with like 9mil gold

[unreal onyx]

Everything insanely undertuned

[sullen dove]

now have 500k

[unreal onyx]

I went in with 3mil, now i have 350k

[velvet flower]

I went in with 50k, have 300k XD

[sullen dove]

(did spend like 3.5m on 3 mounts i think)

☠️

[bitter palm]

gg

[sullen dove]

I don’t even rly mount collect anymore 2 of them kind of a waste

Brutosaur always worth tho

Insta wowtokens bought for that

[unreal onyx]

I just bought consumes and lost a lot on gamba

[sullen dove]

Had to use the macro since they were like out of stock on AH

[bitter palm]

consumes when doing actual keys

[sullen dove]

to like insta buyout or whatever whenever I could

[bitter palm]

is crazy

u lose so much gold

its crazy

[sullen dove]

think u just gotta learn cooking

[bitter palm]

i have it

[sullen dove]

omega long term investment for hearty food

[bitter palm]

for hearty food

[sullen dove]

but I haven’t bothered ever

maybe not worth now

If exists next xpac prolly should

[bitter palm]

idk its just nice

[unreal onyx]

Hearty food is a major goldsaver

[bitter palm]

cba eating perma

[unreal onyx]

Flavour pocket

[bitter palm]

it takes like 5 food for 1 hearty

but still

bro let me

craft rings with all embellishments

[unreal onyx]

Rings ain't armor, so no armor-banding

[lost saffron]

woah

but a shield is armor?

[compact knot]

id say yes 100% shield is armor

[fading sky]

My dear i miss thee

[sullen dove]

shield does infact have the armor stat on it yes

[lost saffron]

there are rings that have the armor stat

also trinkets

[compact knot]

classic rings and classic trinkets yeah

shield literally is the most protective thing a person can have

[lost saffron]

i mean a ring does protect a small part on your body

[compact knot]

more than actual armor

[lost saffron]

therefore it should be considered armor

[compact knot]

its pretty hard to get hit in the fingers when you are holding 2 swords

[oblique thistle]

open fury chat
Talking about shields
Guess it's time to reroll

[lost saffron]

yes but that doesnt change the fact that the parts where the rings are are more protected than the parts where there arent rings

same with amulets

and trinkets

they are all armor

[compact knot]

fakest shit ive ever heard ngl

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-bird-gif-16835999897918525830

[lost saffron]

tell me im wrong and that they dont protect a small part of your body

[compact knot]

they protect a irrelevant part of the body when you are fighting with swords and shit

you cannot argue a shield isnt a piece of armor if thats your argument but you can argue rings are not armor because its not a vital place to protect

[icy topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/autism-autistic-spongebob-i'm-autistic-spongebob-meme-gif-990745265488627503

[compact knot]

^

[velvet flower]

you gotta be a little autistic to be on a class discord server

[lost saffron]

in that case

a sword is also armor

because it protects you as well

if the arguement is just that it protects you

also i love how you call the hand an irrelevant part of your body

i guess you can hold a shield when you just have a stump

can just tie it to the stump

[icy topaz]

Bruh

[compact knot]

this literally happened this expansion

so

[lost saffron]

true

[warm umbra]

A sword’s function is to cause harm to others, self defense or not, therefore a weapon
A shield’s function is solely to defend the body from harm therefore its armor

[lost saffron]

so anything that protects you in any way is armor?

[compact knot]

id argue a ring makes it more dangerous because it gets reflected off the ring and cut off more fingers or a more vital part of the body

[lost saffron]

wdym you can beat up people with a shield

it can literally cause more damage than a sword

[warm umbra]

U can beat up someone with a carrot too

Carrot is still food

[lost saffron]

a carrot cannot cause more damage than a sword

while a shield definitely can

[warm umbra]

Bro u are reaching hard

[compact knot]

a shield cannot cause more damage than a sword in like any scenario

[warm umbra]

Its really simple

[lost saffron]

and you are simming stat weights

[warm umbra]

Bro

[compact knot]

i sim stat weights all the time fym

[lost saffron]

okay sorry that was toxic

[compact knot]

unironically

[lost saffron]

do you look at them and go like “nice stats”?

or what do you do that for

[sullen dove]

i posit

[lost saffron]

shield slam hits harder than slam

therefore you are wrong

[sullen dove]

^

[warm umbra]

Anything can be a wep if u want it to be , point being is it specifically made to cause harm? No

[lost saffron]

anything can be specifically made to cause harm

just because the general thing is not made

[warm umbra]

Ur just arguing for the sake of arguing tho

[lost saffron]

does not mean you cannot do it

i thought it was clear that i am reaching and making stupid arguements from the beginning

im sorry if that wasnt clear

[warm umbra]

I might have came in mid conversation and accidentally got baited

[lost saffron]

it was just a meme conversation to beginn with

also as a side note

if you think a shield cannot cause more damage than a sword you have not played dark souls

[compact knot]

check literally any execute

smh

[compact knot]

thats not fair

but

ok

[sullen dove]

my max hit of exe still 4.2m anyway

shield slam powerful

https://tenor.com/view/300-spears-shield-sword-gif-13738007

[compact knot]

average hit of exe vs average hit of shield slam

go

[dense elbow]

They are both generators, seems like a fair comparison

[sullen dove]

L

[lost saffron]

bro is saying that a shield does not do more damage than a sword in any scenario

guy gets posted scenario

[sullen dove]

idk whos on what side anymore

[lost saffron]

guy tries to limit the scenarios

[sullen dove]

this has been a big ass meme

fun times in 3 am skyhold

[lost saffron]

love shitposting in skyhold

[sullen dove]

[dense elbow]

I am on side Shield 🛡️ is a blunt trauma instrument

How does the ground taste, little man?

https://tenor.com/view/shield-bash-wotmud-knight-funny-gif-25223058

[lost saffron]

i mean i agree that a shield is not as strong of an overall weapon than a sword

but saying than a sword is better in any scenario is wild

[warm umbra]

Have fun being wrong

[dense elbow]

I mean, what scenario does the sword lose. What, a pushing match scenario?

Sword can be an efficient club, it can be a cutting instrument, it can be a stabbing instrument. If you need to bash someone down, shield wins thanks to surface, but a sword can be used to hook 🪝

Question is the objective of the scenario more so than anything

So if we not talking defensive value Vs projectiles and passive block potential... Sword kinda just wins, no?

[steel shard]

[lost saffron]

the arguement was that a sword is better in “like any scenario”

so you dont look at a specific scenario you look at all of them

[dense elbow]

Well, a shield is the better option to block things with

So hey

[lost saffron]

id argue id youre smashing someone down on the head with a big ass kiteshield that does more damage than a sword stab

[paper aurora]

How do I optimally use Cursed Stone in M+? Do I use it then charge in and pop CDs or?

[dense elbow]

Pop it before you send dam, and that is basically it

[sullen dove]

absolutely wild this spawned from someone wishing they could use armor embellishments on rings

[warm umbra]

If 1 person has a shield vs 1 has a sword

Shield guy dies

Every time

[sullen dove]

just defend against the sword?

[paper aurora]

Thank u Mr Funk

[sullen dove]

not that hard

Ur holding a shield

u seen any captain America movie

bro is winning 1v20s against dudes with guns just do dat

[warm umbra]

Guy can hold the shield with 1 hand and stab with the sword

Just shield block kekw

[lost saffron]

hard disagree

[sullen dove]

What u mean sword guy is just gonna push the shield to the side with 1 hand?

[compact siren]

[warm umbra]

Hand grabs shield and keeps it from moving while u do a reacharound with stabby sword move

Boom

[sullen dove]

yea I mean idk what scenario u think shield doesn’t instantly get pulled back away from the hand

or just beat the shit out of the hand

[lost saffron]

okay guys

[sullen dove]

who will win the grip strength of a guy holding a shield around its rim or the shield being literally strapped to someone’s whole arm

[lost saffron]

but you hit the other person with a

300k execute

while he hits you with a

7M shield slam

what do you do

[warm umbra]

I mean the margin for error is pretty slim for shield guy

And shield guy is immobile vs sword guy

[sullen dove]

I didn’t actually look at these 2 images closely cuz meme but worth noticing the lowest damage shield slam still more dmg than the lowest dmg execute

I mean idk u can walk around with a shield

a bit slower sure but u just like keep spinnin to face sword guy wherever he go

[lost saffron]

i mean realistically

[warm umbra]

I mean its pretty hard to move a big ass shield to block swings

[lost saffron]

the shield fighter has to be alot more skilled than the sword fighter

[warm umbra]

Unless u are giga juiced

[lost saffron]

to have a chance at winning

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-gif-5430850758035663288

[lost saffron]

but if youre giga juiced it also means youre slower

most likely

[warm umbra]

If u have to choose to fight swordguy or shieldguy

Who you picking?

[lost saffron]

depends

are they same skill level?

[warm umbra]

Its the same guy

[lost saffron]

yes but is the guy good at both

or better at one

[warm umbra]

No same

[lost saffron]

but if i didnt have that info

i pock shield guy

[warm umbra]

Hes insanely skilled at both

[lost saffron]

cuz if hes as good with the sword as with the shield and hes insanely good with the shield i would lose to the sword even harder

[sullen dove]

I mean like I think a sword is more immediately/upfront dangerous and “volatile” as u can just get your arm sliced off with Willy nilly swings but it’s not like you have much better chances if a guy is ready to bash your fuckin head/hand in with a shield

[lost saffron]

i just escape

[warm umbra]

Id say chances are def better

But still not great

[lost saffron]

i have him pick a very heavy kiteshield

then i run away

easy escape

[warm umbra]

I mean unless ur Neo there aint no way u can survive a sword

I think shield can be cheesed

If you use weight against shieldguy

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-gif-21393998

idk what the original point was anyway like they both can be used to harm lol

jormungandr rippin a 7milly on plexus

[warm umbra]

Original point i think was should shield really be in the armor tab on ah

Or sum

[sullen dove]

idek how that happened guess lucky violent outburst crit in spear or something

eh I mean goes in the same slot as any other weapon

offhands should b there too den

let’s put armor back on rings tho

protect lil fingies

[lost saffron]

original point was

everything can be considered armor

[warm umbra]

But everything can be considered a wep too

Here we go again

[icy topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

[lost saffron]

yes

[warm umbra]

Guy in florida choked his wife to death with his sweatpants

Do we move pants to wep slot now?

[lost saffron]

yes

[warm umbra]

Is there a good fury raidlogging guide for 11.2

[golden hare]

step 1 log on
step 2 raid
step 3 log off

[warm umbra]

My mythic logs are shite and im not very good at using warcraftlogs and what to look for

Aside from ammount of casts by player etc

[south kayak]

that is a weird sentence to be inserting out of nowhere lmao

[warm umbra]

There is context

I swear

Would anyone be willing to take a quick glance at my plex log and tell me what im doing so horribly wrong?

[chrome plover]

#1347646810457636974

[warm umbra]

Thanks!

[hollow leaf]

lol

[tardy lark]

how benched are you this tier

[hollow leaf]

7/8

[tardy lark]

[hollow leaf]

I got a pity prog on araz

because they wanted to include people

[tardy lark]

Warrior also decent there

idk why tf im even playing nexus king

[chrome plover]

our rogue quit the game so i got in on araz prog after they had a 0% wipe 😎

easy 1 pull into kill last night

[tardy lark]

warrior is actually atrocious compared to the top performers for most fight design this raid

[hollow leaf]

while you're progging nexus king I'm lying on the couch watching the new alien series

[chrome plover]

is it good

[tardy lark]

Mate, i needed nexus king to die yesterday so i can play poe

[bitter palm]

prism arms tech

[hollow leaf]

I liked it

[tardy lark]

cause im out for dimensius as im going on vacay

[chrome plover]

i dont think im gonna play poe2 :(

[bitter palm]

prism arms dimensius tech

[tardy lark]

kinda doubt we are running any warriors on dimensius

[tardy lark]

farm tech for me

[bitter palm]

i think eroka said arms fuck good on dimensius but is it better than dk

or an another shaman

xdd

[chrome plover]

(no)

[tardy lark]

or another arcane mage

[hollow leaf]

I'm doing keys

because what else is there to do

[tardy lark]

warrior just kinda blows

[hollow leaf]

real

[bitter palm]

nah nah but when warrior damage profile fits the raid we get shot

[tardy lark]

i really want fury/arms damage profiles to be different so we have some more use in the fight to fight design space

[bitter palm]

why isnt ele getting shot for dimensius

-15% kill it now

[eternal plover]

Fellow waterboys?

Gotta keep the bench hot

[hollow leaf]

dw we're still paying for our sins on hc ansurek

how dare we do good on heroic week

for one boss fight

[bitter palm]

like its so fucking cringe

they make adds spawn every 50s

[tardy lark]

Every dps warrior playing is sweating and fearing the bench if your tanks are comfortable playing prot warrior

[eternal plover]

Rashanan and Ansurek was paid in blood

[eternal plover]

We are 2 dps warriors just rotating bench

[bitter palm]

so what if fury giga fucked on those bosses

[tardy lark]

same

[chrome plover]

our tanks will only play pala and monk and maybe a dk

[bitter palm]

our damage profile fits

so what

[hollow leaf]

and the bug boss

[bitter palm]

who cares

ovinax ye

[hollow leaf]

I don't remember the name

[bitter palm]

3 dks 2 fury

[chrome plover]

but we have 2 dps warriors

[eternal plover]

Broodtwister Ovinax?

[tardy lark]

we stole Crits tank this tier and hes the first actual prot warr play ive met

[hollow leaf]

ye

[tardy lark]

so the 2 dps wars in sabo is rotating bench as well 😄

[chrome plover]

yep

[bitter palm]

gg

[chrome plover]

he was in for frac im in for soul hunters

we were both in for araz because rogue surprise quit the game

[bitter palm]

prot has been the best warrior spec

every patch

gg

[tardy lark]

we split 4 first bosses 2/2, then he took frac, we both benched on hunters and im in for nexus king

lets see if any of us are played on dimensius

[bitter palm]

prot has better execute design than arms

[eternal plover]

Me and fellow guild warrior is only in on nexus-king because there's abscences in ranged camp

[chrome plover]

it's a shame if only 1 of us is played on dimensius, but that may be the case

[tardy lark]

i actually really dislike nexus king

[chrome plover]

my dk is rising though so maybe there's a world

[bitter palm]

prism arms

@tardy lark stack prism for amp

trust

[eternal plover]

Im gonna play DK on dimensius though by the looks of it

way of the oblit

[tardy lark]

i fasho am on farm

[lost saffron]

Dk op

[tardy lark]

but im benched cause vacay middle of prog

[bitter palm]

gg

i have an idea

[lost saffron]

dk is the superior melee

[tardy lark]

or rather, im for sure benched cause vacay, but prolly was anyway xd

[bitter palm]

test od might

and forge

too bad tom sucks dick

[lost saffron]

where you going

[eternal plover]

Deaths Advance, what are winds on platform and tank drag ins?

[chrome plover]

i went on a week holiday on first week sunday, kinda doomed timing

[compact knot]

look at my guilds roster and see this, you know im not playing any boss at all

gg go next raid

[tardy lark]

Miraflores/Marbella in Spain

[lost saffron]

hot

I know where you will be now

ill come visit you

[eternal plover]

Something wrong with Marienlyst? Getting all boujee on us

[tardy lark]

its gonna be good as its like 18-20 degrees at that time

[radiant coyote]

First time since i started wow ill be playing something thats not warrior on prog :/ rolling to dk

[compact knot]

they got you as well

damn

[bitter palm]

pwar has benched us all gg

[lost saffron]

But your guild is carried by splat anyways so you can take vacation and it shouldnt impact prog that much

[tardy lark]

i am allergic to sweden

[radiant coyote]

I think id still play even if i was warrior but they wanted someone to go dk so i said fuck it why not

[chrome plover]

it's kinda fun tbf

imo

[compact knot]

dk op and grip is a better raid buff on dimensius than battle shout

what can you do

[lost saffron]

dk is really fun

[tardy lark]

Splat hard carry

[compact knot]

grip is a raid buff btw

haha

grip is a raid buff

[bitter palm]

lovw when they make grip a must

[eternal plover]

Av av av

[bitter palm]

u need like

9000 grips on dimensius

sybau blizzard

[lost saffron]

and you give all your gear to that guy???

[compact knot]

warlock gate is also a raid buff

[chrome plover]

warlock damage is a raid buff

[compact knot]

warlock doesnt do any damage on dimensius

they are literally only there because of p1

2 locks 2 dks required to kill that boss

[tardy lark]

worst part is he was 1 of 2 guys who was 100% clean on nexus king yday

[bitter palm]

healthstones are a raid buff too

[compact knot]

^^^

[lost saffron]

nah they are there because they are cool

[compact knot]

atleast we have battle shout, and a tank spec that does the same damage as our other dps spec (arms)

[bitter palm]

pwar is played cause they yell all the time and thats cool

[lost saffron]

idk, but i feel like that might because he already has a few hundred pulls under his belt on that boss

but not sure

[tardy lark]

he didnt prog nexus king i think

[lost saffron]

but splat is a gamer anyways

i was just memeing

[tardy lark]

hes hands down just better

wcyd

[lost saffron]

yeh

[bitter palm]

baze has 900 pulls already on nexus king i heard

[eternal plover]

I know Splatlack used to proc Business back in Prime

[tardy lark]

i was mr clean first 2 hours of raid

i was not mr clearn last hour of raid

[radiant coyote]

Yeah dk is alright but feels so cluncky to me and in CDs I feel so overwhelmed but ill get the hang of it by the time we reach last 2.

[lost saffron]

then you got dirty?

[tardy lark]

he procced ult a couple of times in pieces

[tardy lark]

inting ghosts, somehow eating a p1 beam once, missed a tank soak once

all the small things that just need consistency

[bitter palm]

i heard arms is more real on dimensius

[compact knot]

it would make sense

[lost saffron]

i wonder if i will be played

[compact knot]

quite a bit of 2 target

[bitter palm]

prism gameplay

[earnest canyon]

it doesnt make sense to me

[compact knot]

longer execute phases

[bitter palm]

eroka said arms fucks on dimensius and prolly gigafucks nexus king as well

[tardy lark]

am i sending arms sunday

[compact knot]

colossus arms nexus king?

i tried it on heroic and it was not good

[bitter palm]

slayer

[compact knot]

maybe i go slayer tho

[bitter palm]

colossus is not real

[compact knot]

colossus is pretty real on some bosses

[bitter palm]

maybe soulhunters

ye but

[radiant coyote]

Tell me arms is good on last 2 ill abandon my dk arc right now

[bitter palm]

not when there is st

[bitter palm]

ask eroka he is like the only warr playing last 2

[compact knot]

i am 1 of the 2 colossus arms warriors on nexus king heroic

[tardy lark]

Helps having a bear OTP tanking for you

[lost saffron]

@thorn venture

[bitter palm]

prism arms tech

[lost saffron]

dk is so fun though

on the last 2 bosses

you fuck so hard

[tardy lark]

If our monk/rogue guy didnt main monk this tier, we'd prolly be running dk/dk/rog/rog/dh as the only melee perma

our rogue guy did NOT like playing demon hunters fight

[lost saffron]

rogue is so strong on that fight though

strongest melee, no?

[hollow leaf]

almost timed 14 halls

[hoary swan]

It's timeable only as arms 😅 MS makes miniboss before last boss die super fast

[hollow leaf]

nah that miniboss died in 2 sucks

besides we were only 15s overtime with 12 deaths

[hoary swan]

Agh, yeah that def was the problem

[earnest canyon]

Mr Tingleton 😄

[hollow leaf]

I got lied to

friend said if I named myself that I would time the key

😠

[earnest canyon]

lmao, at least you got to play with the Legendary Shaman "Mecka<random russian letters>"

[lost saffron]

rename to tingleton jr.

then you definitely time

[keen dove]

do we always send execute on cd below 20% even tho we have rb charges? on st

[warm crag]

Wouldve timed it as arms

[radiant plank]

Certainly

[tardy lark]

you send execute at any MFE stacks

[jade cipher]

guys

i dont think when you craft a weapon, using other part of embelish is good tbh

[warm crag]

why not

[lost saffron]

im sorry for using your log i deleted the message and want to apologize

[compact siren]

Toph you must submit for a revvez log review

Sorry pal

[lost saffron]

i have a great log that he can analyze

sec

[compact siren]

Have a snack

[mossy fox]

better than nothing

i'd eat

[compact siren]

🤝

[lost saffron]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/FXQq1d4xKPL82ja6?fight=10&type=damage-done

my proudest r1

i wish revvez would analyze it

[mossy fox]

i got an insane rank 1 yesterday on forgeweaver

rank 1 out of 7 arms warriors

holy moly

[lost saffron]

big blast

[earnest canyon]

Thanks! I made one for you too

[lost saffron]

can we ban this person

[hollow leaf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1392944663094362228/1393305032740573285/critcake-warrior.gif

[lost saffron]

[mossy fox]

[compact siren]

Have a cheese dog buddy

[lost saffron]

thanks now im hungry

[earnest canyon]

You should have what im having right now

[tardy lark]

Thats the most british thing

[earnest canyon]

Nah, thats not ont he british food guide

[flat river]

💀

[lost saffron]

I want some brown

[fading sky]

I mean

only the true degens play it

[earnest canyon]

I love me a Jam Clag after me Innards Prison

[fading sky]

so prob harder to be rank 1 but easy to be in the top 10 😄

[undone flower]

Im discovering so many words I have no clue what they mean

[gleaming siren]

Rank 1 from the back blast

[earnest canyon]

You should try those foods too....you will discover a taste explosion!

[gleaming siren]

But those 7 were the cream of the crop so you're actually the goat of Arms

[mossy fox]

uhuh

[undone flower]

I think I’ll choose the innards prison or Devon meat enveloppe, I might know what it is, but the surprise is not excluded in them

[earnest canyon]

devon meat envelope is actually nice

cornish pasty

[gleaming siren]

@warm crag I cant believe Neems got Dentarg'd again

[earnest canyon]

U wanna do a key @undone flower ?

[warm crag]

Neems-Dentarg

[warm crag]

whats the lore

u mean when you try to whisper him and whisper his offline dragon instead or

[undone flower]

Im gonna eat rn, later if you want yes, im gearing a dh tho

[earnest canyon]

sure mate no worries

[undone flower]

Might be my second char, retried frost dk a second time, I left my T8 delve in the middle a second time

But havoc seems fun, for now

[lost saffron]

toxic much

why does everyone have 57 in their name @smoky vale

[earnest canyon]

I hate the dashing around for dps, but idk if there is a decent build without that

[gleaming siren]

Neems-Dentarg on Salattheke

[undone flower]

Im using the low mover build for now, I have no clue what makes the dash build, we will see

[night wigeon]

Hi. There is something i dont understand in the wowhead guide.
Why do we have to use rampage with 115+ rage ? I dont understand the "delaying" thing

[sick pagoda]

Whats the deal with Arms hype in m+? Is it gigapumping or is it fakenews? I just wanna play fury 😐 but the stats looks insane now. Help me understand

[glad coyote]

from what i can tell its a little more aoe but let ST at the end i think fury pulls ahead but very comparable

[sick pagoda]

explain this then

[glad coyote]

5.7 to 6.1 is still compareable

for most players

yeah the top players may be able to pull ahead but over all

its fine

[fading sky]

Fury fucks

[sick pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/matt-amodio-amodio-wink-sly-wink-jeopardy-gif-11576521946337722760

[fading sky]

And handles bosses

Bah

[coarse nest]

It’s to help increase the uptime of your passive enrage buff

[waxen vale]

ironically 8% (the buff arms got). buff fury 😡

[south lintel]

Mountain thane is funner than arms tho

[undone flower]

If you played ret paladin, it is similar to spend at 5 charge > spend at 3 (from my understanding)

[south lintel]

Double the apm a third of the dmg

[coarse nest]

During reck I find it challenging to ramp between 115-129 rage because rage flows in so quickly so during reck I will just rampage as soon as it lights up unless an Execute condition is met of course

Outside of reck it’s pretty reasonable to wait for 115 rage

[undone flower]

Yes during reck I do just send rampage at very aroundish numbers of rage

[coarse nest]

Yeah like 105ish rage? Send it

Lmao

[undone flower]

But the logic is, like I said, similar to ret, you will have a easier time to reach 80 again if you have some rage left after your rampage / like spend at 5 holy charges

Gcd lock protection / whatever it is

[brave girder]

anyone got a good macro for burst cds + stone idol ?

[flat river]

i got so little procs this dungeon that bloodthirst dealt more damage than thunderblast

smh

[coarse nest]

[coarse nest]

No you have to suffer like the rest of us and manual channel it before cooldowns

Can charge and then activate the channel in the middle of the charge

[stoic echo]

Sometimes we do be unlucky

[flat river]

i was literally so tilted the entire dungeon

one time all the adds died

except 1

and i procced thunderblast 7 times in a row

[stoic echo]

[flat river]

i was going to alt+f4 i swear

[stoic echo]

That's why you play #arms

[flat river]

no

[thorn venture]

what up?

[stoic echo]

Yesh

[flat river]

i'd rather delete my char than play arms

[stoic echo]

Why

[glad coyote]

feel ya there

[kind bolt]

man menace talent is dogass

[flat river]

cause arms in clunky

[kind bolt]

doesnt even consistently work with spear

it sometimes pulls in

others no

[stoic echo]

How is it clunky?

[glad coyote]

so are yall using spear with idol in m+?

[kind bolt]

disfunctional spear

[flat river]

just is

[stoic echo]

I wasn't talking about the spear talent, that one feels weird I agree

[thick fossil]

So a couple things to take into account. Fury's overall is certainly going to be less than less capped specs and classes. Arms has less capped and more burst. The ST is about 4-5% less though.

[lost saffron]

2 messages above my ping

but he was too shy

[lost saffron]

another guy wanted to ask if arms is blasting on last 2

[thorn venture]

Oh, yeah it's fairly good on both imo. Not outright better than meta specs but feels better than fury for prog

Rather you do more prio target damage on both

[lost saffron]

i mean just looking at the fights

it feels like arms is just straight up better

than fury

damage pattern is so good for the bosses

[thorn venture]

Yeah both having 100% damage amp phases favors arms a bit too and lots of 2target on both

arms is hard to get right for P1 Dimmy, lots of custom stuff you need to do to keep jugg stacks up if you get gravity and so on

where as fury can plug and play

[thick fossil]

Yeah, I can't see Arms being fun on that one. Even Fury seems to be cancerous on P1 if your ppl with pools stand far back.

[thorn venture]

fury's only real problem P1 is you need to swap to the adds if you don't have insane add dps so you get a bit punished dropping frenzy stacks

[thick fossil]

That to.

[limber oar]

Killed araz last night

[thick fossil]

I keep getting cucked by ranged standing so far back during devour. Dimmy's hit box should be so big I can hit it anywhere.

[fading sky]

Wrong

When rl calls go boss

And i click sweep, free add pad

Afer all the bs🤣🤣

[bleak gale]

Anyone know if spell reflect reduces healing absorb on spiritbomb on mythic Soul Hunters?

[fading sky]

Real q is, does the dreaded dstance

D for dmgloss

[glad coyote]

why does raidbots continue to want me to use oathworn's tenacity enchant on both weapons

[fading sky]

Because it likes em?

What do u wanna use?

[low vortex]

cuz 4k vers is a lot of free flat damage increase

0-30% it's like 779 vers = 1% or something like that

[fading sky]

Also mby u got low versa?

[glad coyote]

5%

[fading sky]

Y

[dreamy hemlock]

Can anyone help me remember the name of a website that had like other peoples logs on boss kills so I can check when they use cds etc?

[stiff barn]

Warcraftlogs

[radiant plank]

lorrgs

[frank lintel]

Is fury in a place right now where I’m gonna feel ouchie in my hand or wrist when I do keys or raid?

[vague sierra]

You can always get surgery for it, don't worry. 🙂

[frank lintel]

Okay a so it is 😭 good to know lol. I enjoy my fury warrior last season but found some soreness because you be slamming

[quiet breach]

same apm this season

[warm crag]

If you have decent keybinds you shouldnt experience any medical issues unless ur sitting there for like 5+ hours a day

Fury apm is not significantly ahead of other specs imo the most cringe thing rn is that you technically want to Spam TB after pressing it to snipe a proc but even then assuming keybinds that dont naturally strain you should be fine

[quiet breach]

@celest anchor do ur wrists and hands get fucked during RWF when you are playing warrior

[undone flower]

i'm doing demensius lfr rn, first wipe

[quiet breach]

I only noticed Hand hurting when I was brand new to the spec tbh

[quiet breach]

I left after 3 wipes gl

[bitter palm]

sl s4 prot was

interesting

thats the only time i experienced

pain while playing a spec

[wise solar]

I maxed the season, I can retire in peace (holding 2 records)

[fading sky]

M+ not 2 bad

[winter shoal]

Aura

[wise solar]

Fun fact, if you jump off, it won't give you DPS

[brave girder]

so basically : reck > charge + stone idol + avatar pot etc > thunder blast > ravager ?

into a pack

[undone flower]

Reprisal SO FUN AHAHAHAHAH

[tardy lark]

you want to enrage, but yeah

can presend ravager before charge as well

[coarse nest]

Pretty much but yeah like aagaard said

[undone flower]

I left after the second wipe

[brave girder]

you get 80 rage when you're in combat and first reck then charge no ?

[quiet breach]

I left cuz I felt it would've taken A LOT more wipes and I cba

[tardy lark]

reck - ava -charge gives you 80 rage yes, but you dont mention a rampage anywhere in there, and you'd really want to be enraged before pressing TBs

[quiet breach]

I wonder what the average is lmao

[undone flower]

Yes, one of the npc player took the orb of the first add and went middle last second, killing right side, im not bothering with a boss npcs can kill the carrys

[brave girder]

yeah mb its just engraved in my warrior brain

[frosty edge]

Why i watch fury videos and all of those guys do lots of thunder clap procs? while mine doesnt

is there a trick for it im not aware of?

[radiant plank]

4set

[frosty edge]

i do have 4set

[tardy lark]

press BT and have 4set

[frosty edge]

i do that

[radiant plank]

clearly not

[frosty edge]

🙁

[tardy lark]

you just press BT every time available over anything bu TB

[radiant plank]

Try speccing into mountain thane too

[frosty edge]

yes i prio BT everytime

[frosty edge]

oy im not that stupid

[tardy lark]

you are in skyhold, theres no guarantee

[undone flower]

[frosty edge]

[tardy lark]

but if you have issues with TBs, i guarantee you, you arent pressing BT where you could. If you still have meatcleaver stacks and the choice is between 1 stack TB or a BT, you should a lot of the time be pressing BT

[brave girder]

we still aim to not bloodthirst during ravager yeah ?

[tardy lark]

(the no CDs BTs along with having TB procs are weird tho)

[ebon junco]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/brainrot

@tardy lark

[tardy lark]

insta install

[coarse nest]

[tardy lark]

i need my food shorts while payphoning saladbar p1

Guildies saying it doesnt work

[ebon junco]

they r lying

[quiet breach]

if ur watching highlights ofc they are gonna show the times when they get insane ionizing proc RNG and burst massive

highlights aren't indicative of regular gameplay

[bitter palm]

need reels

[mossy fox]

[celest anchor]

Only time I remember having wrist pain was Anduin prog spamming whirlwind in intermission. Other than that ive been fine.

[coarse nest]

Imagine raging blow on 1 key this season

Rip nerve damage

[gleaming siren]

[coarse nest]

[eternal sundial]

Idk i dont feel like Hand load is more than a day of work when playing wow

Assuming u have a decent typing speed

[coarse nest]

Yeah maybe dudes gotta start buying from those “gripz” adds or something 😂

Fury gamer workout

[brave girder]

quick question

when do we use execute in st slayer build

only with procs ?

[quaint tide]

there is a WA to track execute procs

makes a sound when you should use it

[undone flower]

I replaced my roar bind with raging blow on my ST talents

[bitter palm]

people have EVIL keybinds

for buttons u press all the time

[proud tide]

I ve seen the pin already but i still need to ask 😄 i cant get it in my head on single target wie simply never use BT anymore unless nothing else is pressable? that feels so bad

[bitter palm]

like they put RB on 1

[quaint tide]

does anyone know the soft cap for the different stats?

[bitter palm]

ye it doesnt do anything

and cshb is weak asf

[verbal shale]

Aany geared fury warriors want to share what they are simming?

[bitter palm]

df s1 cshb prenerfs hooly

dont need a healer in aoe

5 chsb gg

[bitter palm]

like 5.2 5.3

but depends what u mean by geared

some people here already have myth weap antenna etc but have low ilvl rings or some other weak piece so they arent that high ilvl

[eternal sundial]

Bro i stg

23 e only good spammable keybinds

1 bad 45 meh

R ait

[bitter palm]

r

ye

1 charge 2 bt 3 rb r rampage shift e exe

e ww

shift r bs/rava

[coarse nest]

1 charge

Based

[bitter palm]

shift v roar/spear

[eternal sundial]

Correct keybind

[eternal sundial]

I have ramp 4 but first 3 is right

[eternal sundial]

Same without Shift

[bitter palm]

🤝

im not even using v atm

used it as tauren

for stomp

[eternal sundial]

I think racials were all alt 2

Or alt 4 depends

[bitter palm]

x stance switch

[plush zephyr]

Ppls keysbinds are wild to me 😂

[bitter palm]

4 is iv for me

[plush zephyr]

z to switch x is cursed

[verbal shale]

Ty just mean got a few myth pieces and stuff stopped playing fury after getting ce last season because felt like they got no love but my mains geared but one of the lowest dps raid specs and not sure if any tuning s coming so just started gearing fury incase

[coarse nest]

Keybinds are so individual based

[plush zephyr]

V true

[verbal shale]

And just wanted to know there potential

[undone flower]

still funny we still take it, because there is nothing else to talent in

[coarse nest]

Like I cannot have frequently pressed rotational buttons on letter binds

Idk how people play like that

[unreal onyx]

1-6 main abilities, e leap, r reck, mmb for stormbolt

[bitter palm]

fury isn't bad its just got bad damage profile for raid design

leap on mouse 4

[eternal sundial]

Shift 1 for me

[floral mountain]

what bind u got for mount ? i go with t

[unreal onyx]

shift-1 ER, shift-4 shockwave

[eternal sundial]

Cuz it dont matter so swap

[bitter palm]

q stormbolt shift q er

[unreal onyx]

I don't have mount bound, or even pot/hs

[bitter palm]

never had issues with binds so i kept them

[plush zephyr]

Q,e,r,f,c,r,t,g,v,1,2,3,4 then shift for bar 2 then ctrl for bar 3 😂

Youd hate my shit

[bitter palm]

I would change things but cba relearning

[floral mountain]

f,y,x, 5,6,7 for rebuffs

[plush zephyr]

7?

Slender man ass hands

[floral mountain]

but u can also make alt+

[plush zephyr]

I hate alt

[bitter palm]

i have opie on F

for mount/yak and battle shout

adhd

[floral mountain]

alt+q, alt+e is cool

[undone flower]

i hate ctrl and alt

[bitter palm]

circle spinning

need my adhd cure somewhere easily accessible

[undone flower]

circle spinning and ravager are on X for me

[coarse nest]

Rtadfgv/shift mod, 123456/shift mod, f1-f12 on mouse thumb, scroll wheel

I move with qwes

[bitter palm]

who tf moves with qwes

[digital crown]

I move with donkey kong bongos

[bitter palm]

csgo ahh

[floral mountain]

wii tenis rocket

[bitter palm]

hjkl ahh movement

numpad movement

[plush zephyr]

Wasd fam with strafe put on a/d

[bitter palm]

ye

[coarse nest]

Qwes owns bro your fingers rest close to the main spammed 1-5 binds

[undone flower]

arrows movement

[eternal sundial]

Kira moves with arrows

And uses numbpad

[bitter palm]

ye but he is a tank player

[coarse nest]

And E is next to R which is kick bind

[digital crown]

Kick is mouse button

[eternal sundial]

Yes but he moves like a human

[coarse nest]

And R is next to T which is stun bind

[eternal sundial]

With those binds

Crazy shit

[plush zephyr]

1-4 kick/stuns cause they’re most important

[bitter palm]

good point actually

[eternal sundial]

Shift 3 focus kick

F normal kick

(never kick a cast in keys)

[bitter palm]

same but

normal kick is on 5

dont ask why

[bitter palm]

kick is on 5 and focus kick on shift 3

[coarse nest]

Bro no shot F is defacto execute bind for “Fuckem”

[bitter palm]

and shift 5 isnt taken

[eternal sundial]

Fuck Shift 5

That's my er

But er is also on t

[bitter palm]

yekindar

goat

[plush zephyr]

LOL

Bro gets closer too

[coarse nest]

What is that man doing!?

[bitter palm]

t for demolish

[plush zephyr]

Bro puts his nose on the monitor

[bitter palm]

g for sks/odyns

[plush zephyr]

It’s wild

[coarse nest]

Doesn’t need to do anything except aim shoot and move

[bitter palm]

better focus

[plush zephyr]

Idk when I try to go that close I actually lose focus

I tried it

[bitter palm]

i get closer when i play fps but not that close xd

[coarse nest]

Rough guess my screen is about 20-24 inches from my face

No shot I’m sitting 10 inches in front of it

[bitter palm]

im also used to it kinda cause

used to have a crt when i was a kid

and a giga small table

[flat river]

doesnt work

i tried

[chilly fractal]

This next week is gonna be stressful browsing the internet…

Dodging spoilers of the Dexter finale is already rough

[coarse nest]

Oh dude you’re telling me

Wife and I are on season 7 of the original series

We got a lot of content to consume still

[charred flint]

Jesus

Why are you sticking to it

lmao

Dexter is so bad after season 3 or 4, dunno which one is the trinity one

[coarse nest]

It got weird for us when ||deb started talking to the therapist about wanting to be with dexter|| bit odd but we kept watching and then the massive discovery pulled us right back in! Lol

[plush zephyr]

Bro hard disagree lmao

I don’t care for the first and a good bit of second seasons but everything to the ending was great

Trinity was peak

https://tenor.com/view/notes-taking-writing-take-instructions-directions-gif-14563944

[chilly fractal]

Yea that shit was weird

[smoky vale]

i inspire them

[nimble kraken]

I love fury but having tried arms a few times for keys, improved shockwave seems hands down 17times better than improved stormbolt

[smoky vale]

thats mainly because of the colossus shockwave knocking up

[nimble kraken]

Yea knock up + even more cd reduction

Whenever i throw bolt it’s very specifically for one mob, i hardly care if it tags the other two

[modest condor]

"improved" storm bolt actually makes it worse

it increases the cooldown and as you said, you generally dont care about the other 2 mobs getting stunned

[bitter palm]

if anything

u dont want to cc them

cause it just drs them

[modest condor]

most of the time you're fighting too many targets and it just adds DR to some random mobs

also in case you are fighting 3 mobs the off targets have a shorter stun so it desyncs the casts and may make it harder for the next person to hit their stop

like it's just better to talent into the intervene shield despite not talenting into intervene

[frank dawn]

storm bolt hero talent big dumb

[bitter palm]

storm bolt deals 5000% increased damage to targets below 35

aware

[warm crag]

skyreaver

[chilly fractal]

MoP Storm Bolt

[gusty compass]

Do you guys play spear or dr in m+?

[chilly fractal]

TR because I’m lazy

[undone flower]

TR because I'm lazy

[gusty compass]

You mean DR? XD

[chilly fractal]

No

I’m not playing Shadowlands still

[undone flower]

Tentacle Drama

[warm crag]

its not been dragon roar since legion p sure

[bitter palm]

sl

[warm crag]

post legion

what now?

[bitter palm]

in df it was reworked and named thunderous

in sl it was droar still

[chilly fractal]

Old man Spongie

[undone flower]

battle shout when dragon mount = dragon roar

[gusty compass]

omg.. thats true

Ok so TR

[undone flower]

massive overall btw

[tepid cedar]

i fucking HATE saying this,. but arms is so much better to pug m+ with

[coarse nest]

[bitter palm]

4 ilvl

or

[undone flower]

i already said, arms is close to be fun for me

[coarse nest]

That overall is in French

Hard to interpret

[undone flower]

i have 677 ilvl

and im doggo

you remove one button to arms (rend/clap), i think i'll enjoy playing it more

[willow granite]

Does fury have good intial burst when starting a single target encounter? I feel like I do no burst and do like 4.5m to 5m overall dps throughout the entire fight. That normal or am I doing something wrong?

[warm crag]

your damage graph is extremely flat ye

[willow granite]

Ok Progging mything loth and we are learning so we die early and i'm bottom dps all the time with evokers and such doing liek 3x damage

[bitter palm]

u start the fight at 5mil at 80% u are at 5 mil at 60% u are at 5 mil at 30% u are at 5 mil on kill u are at 5 mil

[willow granite]

Just trying to not get b enched.

[undone flower]

Massive burst

[willow granite]

lol 3rd worst burst in game.. love it

[limber oar]

Evolers scale insanely well with lust (if youre lusting on pull) and have insanely burst dmg

[warm crag]

if you want burst you've been on the wrong class since df

[willow granite]

yeah and they are getting PI so its even worse haha

[limber oar]

Everyone knows now that current fury warrior has an egregiously flat profile

[willow granite]

i don't want burst, I just want to explain why im so low when the fight lasts 1 minute

[limber oar]

We started progging mythic fractillus yday and its the same story for us

I start the fight middle to bot of the pack

[undone flower]

Because our damage is flat

[limber oar]

And after 3 min im around the top

[willow granite]

yeah anything single target that is a kill i'm top 5