#fury

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olive wraith
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S1? I’m pretty sure we didn’t

charred flint
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only bad thing right now imo is our capstone fuckign SUCKS

candid falcon
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i assume you mean raging blow @neon ocean

oblique trail
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It was never used in S3

neon ocean
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haha yes

sour thorn
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anyone have the sript to level you back piece?

candid falcon
oblique trail
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Yes

olive wraith
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We didn’t OS with anni

oblique trail
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You never used Onslaught

olive wraith
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Not enough talents

charred flint
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yikes annihilation tier must been shit

oblique trail
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You had RA, OF and Annihilator

charred flint
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that was a trash tier talent

sudden tusk
compact knot
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wedidnt use onslaught in that tier

sudden tusk
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these pugs cant be serious

olive wraith
compact knot
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for fury

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lol

charred flint
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dont care dont like gameplay

candid falcon
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im looking for the talents on wowhead and theyre just gone lol

sudden tusk
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bring bach annhi

olive wraith
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The gameplay was fun

oblique trail
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S3 tier was not bad but it was a very split season in terms of who liked and hated it

olive wraith
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For me

compact knot
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except it had the best gameplay ever

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no cap

undone flower
# sudden tusk

I got insulted by a French dude today, I never saw someone be that savage in WoW

charred flint
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this now is the best fury imo

oblique trail
olive wraith
charred flint
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i might be one of the only ones but s1 sl was good

compact knot
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cool tier man

charred flint
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cancelaura bladestorm was fun

compact knot
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not using buttons

charred flint
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even tho most people hated it

olive wraith
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Both slayer and thane are fun

crude ridge
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had to look back at some logs

candid falcon
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i remember SL using merciless bonegrinder as fury

charred flint
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this is epeanuts

candid falcon
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that was an odd time in M+

compact knot
olive wraith
crude ridge
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raid

compact knot
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odyns does more on ST in DF than it does on aoe in TWW

crude ridge
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probably not in keys

charred flint
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df first tier was s obad

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fuck raszageth

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that boss sucked

crude ridge
olive wraith
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Isn’t it the same currently

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S1 just had old TT

smoky vale
undone flower
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You can’t miss a period slam was 1.5% of your dps

modest condor
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the best part of that tier was the slam macro

compact knot
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rampage macro u mean

modest condor
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no, slam macro

compact knot
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wtf was the slam macro

olive wraith
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Fun tier

modest condor
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slam but with the raging blow icon and tooltip

olive wraith
compact knot
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ahhh

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the rampage macro was goated as well though

modest condor
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because for some reason people had a really big problem with pressing slam

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even tho it had the exact same function in the rotation as rb would have had

olive wraith
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Why do people hate slam so much

compact knot
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yeah i always thought that was weird

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i played arms for a tier and have 40 slams in a 5 minute fight

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no big deal

undone flower
crude ridge
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I don't think I ever press slam

undone flower
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Filler as whirlwind and slam lvl of filler ofc

crude ridge
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I just used WW filler

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and called it a day

compact knot
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because WW does more damage than slam now

olive wraith
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I mean you used both

compact knot
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it wasnt like that

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you used both in DF

olive wraith
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In both aoe and st

charred flint
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can we actaully rampage at beggining of dimensius?

compact knot
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since slam had a cd

charred flint
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or do i have to build rage in add

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damn

compact knot
undone flower
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I didn’t press slam a single time in TWW, as fury

crude ridge
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back up and charge

undone flower
compact knot
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still was a peak tier

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i did 1.1m dps on smolderon

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in prepatch but

olive wraith
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It was really fun raid tier

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I get people disliked the lack of aoe for keys though

compact knot
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i still think

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if that tier had slayer

olive wraith
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Thane*

compact knot
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nah

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slayer

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i meant slayer

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it would be op in aoe

olive wraith
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It was all about the bb

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And of

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Plus not having rb sounds kinda bad for slayer

charred flint
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damn

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dimensius p1

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isnt fun at all

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fuck this fight

velvet flower
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Dimensius in general not a fun fight to play is it

compact knot
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the burst would be insane in aoe

olive wraith
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Why would that matter?

compact knot
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bladestorm + spear

olive wraith
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I guess

compact knot
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5.240m dps sim

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up big

charred flint
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but this feels like trash

molten zodiac
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what trinkets yall running for M+

charred flint
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cant wait to be stuck in mythic in it for a year

compact knot
olive wraith
compact knot
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^

upbeat cedar
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dimensius is fine no??

compact knot
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if you only do m+ pretty much

olive wraith
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Still trying for idol

velvet flower
olive wraith
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Also don’t know why Blizz made awful hitbox for dimm and loom

velvet flower
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Which is weird because sometimes they do really well with melee hitboxes.

charred flint
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they never surpassing denny

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denny was peak last boss

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damn that fight was good

odd pebble
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can any handsome smart fury warriors tell me why my rage is sometimes resetting to 25 when i try to reck + avatar + charge into a raid pull

oblique trail
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Because you use your CDs before the pull starts

tidal lava
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hey all, im trying to figure out if i have too much mastery. when searching, everyone says to just follow what sims say. i dont know what sim i should be running though. top gear and quick sim dont look to have any info

oblique trail
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Rage resets to 20 when a fight starts

odd pebble
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so someone else has to start combat first?

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or i have to be in combat that is?

oblique trail
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Someone just has to start the fight

odd pebble
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okay gotcha i figured it was something along those lines

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thank you

oblique trail
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If you are not sure how to use top gear, then there are video and written guides you can find to make it more digestible

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It's fairly straight forward once you've done it a few times

earnest canyon
olive wraith
earnest canyon
olive wraith
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Sorry thought that was a common way to refer to m+

velvet flower
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It is

earnest canyon
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I came in mid convo after being unable to get back to sleep....my bad

earnest canyon
olive wraith
earnest canyon
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I watched a few videos and they seem super chill and have all the time in the world....im constantly out of position, shit is everywhere, i cant change form fast enough

olive wraith
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What’s killing you?

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The goo?

earnest canyon
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feels like im playing at 2x speed with half the fps

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mostly yeah

olive wraith
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Go find the outfit that reduces goo damage

earnest canyon
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im using the DR outfit that reduced ALL damage

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does goo one reduce more?

olive wraith
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Idr

earnest canyon
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then the single hand kills me cos I got nowhere to g

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go

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I hate the mechanic of throwing and aiming

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i have 10 charges as elephant and I try to throw at hand and it feels like playing with oven gloves on

olive wraith
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You playing in handheld?

earnest canyon
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nope, docked wtih pro controller

olive wraith
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Weird that you’re having frame issues

earnest canyon
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i think its cos there is so much goo

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like the dudes in the video have forver to get to the metal balls and punch them away before they start spreading

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then have a nice area that is safe

odd vapor
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ive been seeing some raid builds in logs and they are using Wrecking throw in rotation, when should i use it?

winter shoal
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If the boss is shielded or you have nothing else to press

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Or right before you charge in on pull

odd vapor
tepid cedar
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in full st fights ur better off taking wrecking throw over roar lol

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ul atleast probabl;y hit it once or twice

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lol

thick fossil
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On 1st boss, 100%

tepid cedar
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fract as well

thick fossil
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You never have a global to bother with Roar

winter shoal
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That's crazy comms and also mathematically incorrect

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Or empirically, as anda would correct me

mystic kayak
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there have been times in ST I am stuck with no BT, no RB, no rampage

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so i hit roar

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rather than WW

tepid cedar
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thats what ur suippose to do

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lolol

winter shoal
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I mean no disrespect but mr jill knees is better than either of us

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And he used roar twice in r1 frac

thick fossil
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12 mil in a global from shield break.

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Over sad roar. lol

winter shoal
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You should def take wrecking throw on plexus

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And other bosses with shields

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You should not drop roar for it tho

tepid cedar
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st is my jammmzzzzzzzz

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cant wait to raid friday and saturday. and hopefuly get them fucking boots this week

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we have yet to see any plate boots

winter shoal
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I got the normal ones w1 and haven't gotten any of the hero ones that have dropped since

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gg

chilly fractal
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Killed Loom… too much having to target swap though 🙁

winter shoal
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I had to swap and got a 97 /shrug

fickle cedar
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Stayed on boss and our ranged killed it most of the time

thick fossil
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I'm on Loom right now. This fight is cancer.

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Any boss where melee gets to sit there and watch ranged play the game is dumb.

fickle cedar
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wait on loom ? when does that happen

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if you mean when its full energy i usually just jump out when 1/2 seconds are left, you barely lose uptime

thick fossil
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More so when you peel back to kill the orb and there are 5 pools in the opening to get back to the boss.

limber oar
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Dudes a cranker

undone flower
golden yacht
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this trinket rng seems insane left one is Hero track right is champ

snow vapor
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for M+ like eco what talents should I drop for wrecking throw? I just tested dropping Rumbling Earth and a point in Crushing Force. Anyone do any other talent options to minimize losses?

proven stream
tepid cedar
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thats more than roar

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lolol

olive wraith
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Or the heroic leap one

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Are common to drop for other stuff

snow vapor
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Those are both im T1 and can't suffice for T2 Honed Reflexes. Also M+ doesn't take Fleet rn

proven stream
tepid cedar
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lol

fickle cedar
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roar adds and then leave okayge

olive wraith
compact knot
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how do i make simc show me the most dps possible i can get from 15 crests with 1 upgrade (i have like 8 upgradeable gilded pieces)

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do i have to do each piece with 1 different sim

snow vapor
compact knot
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i feel like im missing a button

fickle cedar
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there's a button upgrade selected thingies

olive wraith
hasty wasp
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On raidbots is Dungeon Slice a good Fight style option for simming?

thick fossil
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Its ok

winter shoal
compact knot
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i wasnt sure what button made it NOT 240 combinations

winter shoal
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I assume you mean 240m or something

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240 is nothing

compact knot
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i meant like

winter shoal
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But the replace gems and enchants usually adds a ton of combinations

compact knot
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for example i have 8 different pieces of gear i want to upgrade, helmet, ring, trinkets (all diff slots), id want to see 9 combos (baseline + 8 different pieces) not 300 combos of each piece upgraded with some of them not upgraded

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oh

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i found the button

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lmfao

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sweet

modest condor
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just give yourself 15 of the crest it costs to upgrade

compact knot
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that does not solve the issue

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maybe im explaining it poorly

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but i found the button that fixes it

undone flower
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Mb I didn’t read silm answering

compact knot
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i wonder if a 15k dps loss is worth getting + 23 ilvl for mythic prog

thick fossil
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Stupid ass moth is dead

compact knot
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yeah wrists

undone flower
limber oar
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I mean its dps loss

compact knot
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its like +150k hp

undone flower
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Oh

limber oar
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150k hp isnt shit

winter shoal
compact knot
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i doubt i even get in but

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i mean surely its good on nexus king for just living

smoky vale
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i mean

lavish pecan
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15k dps is less than a rounding error

I'd probably take the ilvl/hp

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Granted the HP is also not much

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But potentially living one pull with a sliver of HP is more impactful than potentially not wiping at .01%

undone flower
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It might be the smol devil in your brain talking because you hate seeing 681 item in your char panel

compact knot
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i do

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i had to get rid of jastor

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in the exact same way

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except it was only -4k dps

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im not getting in anyways

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o7

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fury too shit

lavish pecan
compact knot
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its a reequip bug i believe

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i got the reequip weakaura and its worked since

lavish pecan
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The re-equip bug came back?

compact knot
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yeah

lavish pecan
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Small indie dev blizzard

feral ivy
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holy fuck can we pls have all cd's reset during wipe in raid

undone flower
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I keep hitting the boss after the wipe call just bc this shit

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I swear

feral ivy
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hit all cds>wipe> FUCK

compact knot
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i think it was sprocketmonger

lavish pecan
compact knot
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there was a wall on sprocketmonger where you would like instant wipe and you used cds there

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so it was constant "add 40 seconds to that pull timer"

undone flower
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Silken court and ansurek were notoriously awful too

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And that smol period where boomie had 2 charge of their CD but it didn’t reset

sharp cargo
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Question, am i using execute wrong if im pressing it when its avaiable?

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(slayer)

sullen dove
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like 80% fine to do that using it on cd isnt awful but if u familiar with weakauras there is one that lights up when its more "optimal" to hit it

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which is like 2 stacks of MFE for the most part + few other random conditions

marble swift
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Capped AOE feels real bad on halls holy shit

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Do you just do arms for halls?

sullen dove
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or thane

marble swift
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Hunters doing 15 mil sustained on gigapacks

marble swift
sullen dove
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reset more xeos

marble swift
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Thane is still capped

mystic kayak
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If i'm at 130 fury, and my SD weakaura is proccing for being at 2 stacks/3 marks of execution or whatever the conditionals are, should I be hittgin execute FIRST or spending the fury to rampage so I don't overcap?

sullen dove
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every spec is capped

proven stream
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Thane is fine on halls

sullen dove
summer quail
sullen dove
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just feels worse to lose an extra slayerstrike proc since that shit likes to slam 15 of them in 0.5 seconds as soon as target has 3 stacks

mystic kayak
sullen dove
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yea maybe idk i dont think its the end of the world to lose a little rage considering how much we dumpster spamming rbs after a bs

sharp cargo
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anyone did the calcs of how much apm is this thing right now with the tier lol

feral ivy
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NOOOOO my best rotation ever and i died to thinking to much AHHHH

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"should i go this way or this way "

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mythic loom is so fun yet so hellish

earnest canyon
mystic kayak
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Also, why does raidbot sims and guides have us use avatar prepull with charge? I undersatnd reck for the rage gen, but since it also gives 6s of ava, why also pop ava and waste time of it?

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Is it just to get it on CD asap?

undone flower
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I have so many LoL tiktoks bc wasd thing, am I targeted because I play wow ?

coarse nest
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arcano core dropped and I was the only one that it even gave dps lol

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no screams drop this week though from heroic ofc x.x

tawny oak
mystic kayak
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Heard

unborn patio
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if any of you fury warrior pros wanna help me maximize my dps.. just linked tonights log in the help and log review channel.. it would be much appreciated!!

oak peak
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After rampage, how many RBs do i wanna use, assuming no SD procs? Till enrage is about to fall off, or till >115 rage? I feel like im over RBing (tend to do it till enrage is about to fall off, over capping on rage often)

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I wanna ramp more right?

undone flower
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Mb thought it was after bs

spare steppe
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we got down heroic dimensius! folks dont know how to stay alive 😭

oak peak
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Yeah after BS i know i spam Rb

undone flower
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As slayer RB until you reach 115 rage or lose enrage

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They are two separate conditions

eternal lance
oak peak
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Gotcha. For some reason i got it in that RB>ramp all the time unless enrage was gonna fall off

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Even if capped

undone flower
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How I personnaly visualize it is more on the rampage side, you have the « rampage for 115 rage » and the « rampage for enrage » and you fill the gap with RBs

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And SD ofc

oak peak
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Good deal. Felt like i was doing what i was suppose to in fractilus tonight, but only got an 82%, so figured i was doing something wrong

undone flower
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Usually it is uptime, holding CDs while we currently don’t do that, and again uptime

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Might need to see a log to not just throw the common issues

undone flower
spare steppe
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honestly the most deaths was the first >>

oak peak
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Also, my arcanocore trinket, while simming for higher, did 20 mil less damage than my tickling sack trinket last week. Does the strength on it vs mastery really make up 20mil?

grave sky
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@oak peak What are u using on ur D.I.S.C? o:

undone flower
oak peak
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Crit currently

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😣

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My wife is the shaman too. Griefing me lol

undone flower
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Sim yourself with and without the skyfury, I need 5 min, logs on phone are ass

grave sky
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@oak peak why do u use whirldwind? Better than slam? lol

undone flower
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It is

grave sky
oak peak
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Honestly, forgot slam was even a thing for ST fury lol. But only casted it twice the whole fight anyways

oak peak
undone flower
oak peak
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Yeah that’s what i thought

undone flower
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  • it was 2-4k diff before while we do millions since S1
oak peak
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Yeah just trying to see if something was really off. Missing a buff might be part of it…but i felt like i should be higher than i was. My rings suck (champ/heroic jastor diamond) but otherwise gear is ok

grave sky
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Soo goodbye slam

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No more on my keybind

dusk urchin
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a frost dk just bursted 30m dps

fading sky
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Fdk can have profile warrior. Cant

dusk urchin
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so i dont understand

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are other classes cooldowns just better than fury's?

summer quail
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yes

dusk urchin
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what makes it a flat damage profle

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oh is that why

oak peak
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Why is my arcanocore (704) simming higher than my Tickling sack (704), but doing 40mil less on a boss?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/XphFPQLn4tvCV2wK?fight=49&type=damage-done&source=3
(arcanocore)

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ZpF36jHD4gQbTWRq?fight=28&type=damage-done&source=15&start=10822774&end=11187613
(Sack)

Is the str on arcanocore really making up the difference vs the mastery on sack?

fading sky
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M8 say %

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Never say amount

dusk urchin
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archimedes was in here the other day explaining its a stat diff

oak peak
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Sack- 4.1%, arcanocore 1.68%

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Stat diff how?

dusk urchin
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the stats on arcano are better

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is what he was saying

oak peak
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So the proc is worse, but the stats make up for it essentially?

dusk urchin
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ya

oak peak
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Gotcha. Yeah that’s what i was wondering

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Thanks

hexed wave
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Hey everyone, I was wondering what combination of trinkets you would recommend in M+. I have Sacbrood, Pacemaker, and Cursed Stone Idol all 704

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I tried simming but I'm not sure how to sim Sac properly since it persists throughout the entire dungeon

sullen dove
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if u dont hate using idol that and either of the others prolly fine

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idk if pacemaker gets a lil worse maybe if u have 2 trinkets that give a ton of crit

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but like more crit surely like compounds on itself

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cluegi

hexed wave
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ah thats a fair point

sullen dove
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would say just sim with idol as main and either of the others

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dont think sacbrood matters much on sim since buff lasts a full minute anyway

queen panther
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Soooo ST, when exactly do we fit Thunderous roar in now?

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Cuz shit does like nothing

junior gale
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before slam

queen panther
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Oof

sullen dove
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idk im just slammin that shit on cd cba desyncing shit as bt filler replacement

summer quail
queen panther
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So do we just RB twice after every BS?

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Even if we rage cap

olive wraith
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Rage cap doesn’t matter

fading sky
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y only enrage matters

olive wraith
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Exe conditionals are higher prio than rb though

fading sky
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u will never send an unenraged RB

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or unenraged exe

olive wraith
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^

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Enrage >>>>>>>everything

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Then what was said above

queen panther
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Okie just RB got it

olive wraith
queen panther
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Sir yeth sir. Thank you

red grail
olive wraith
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Increases next rampage damage so in this one case we stack up slaughtering strikes to beef up rampage

proven stream
sullen dove
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i like how dumbass devs nerf culling cyclone even tho its literally only a st talent

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actually so stupid to think about this stuff on st

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when cyclone should just be better

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"oh no bladestorm burst so strong in s1!!! better nerf the useless st talent!!!"

olive wraith
red grail
olive wraith
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Yes

red grail
still raft
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god, thane 4set feels so good

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then it hits it HITS

olive wraith
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Can’t remember if it lists why

proven stream
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Still got 95 on mythic plexus okayge

olive wraith
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Wow head prio is generalized so it’s easier to follow

sullen dove
olive wraith
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New players don’t necessarily need to know how everything comes together

olive wraith
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As long as they’re doing stuff correctly they’ll eventually (maybe). Figure out why things are done the way they are

queen panther
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Sometimes I read who knows

olive wraith
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No read

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Just zug

queen panther
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I read nameplates to see if it's red

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or dead

smoky vale
jovial dagger
obtuse needle
smoky vale
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1 never swap off of boss
2 reck before you charge

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rest is just rotation

obtuse needle
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am I doing the rotation wrong?

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or just those 2 things?

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I feel like I'm decent at keeping uptime

olive wraith
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I’m not seeing very many exe casts

obtuse needle
olive wraith
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You only press it when you meet the conditionals

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But at a glance it looks like you’re probably sitting on 3 mfe stacks a bit

obtuse needle
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hmm, ok I'll pay more attention to this. Thank you!

olive wraith
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Do you have the wa

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Actually looks like you kinda got screwed with no SD procs pretty early

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I could be wrong

obtuse needle
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It kinda felt like that

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tbh

olive wraith
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I’m on mobile so it’s kinda cringe looking through

obtuse needle
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No worries! Yeah I felt like I wasn't getting procs/clunky. However, I do wana know if I'm sitting on exec stacks

olive wraith
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Grab the WA if you don’t have it already

obtuse needle
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do you have a link? I don't use WA that much, but it'll just alert me when to execute?

olive wraith
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Makes a kaching sound when you should press

obtuse needle
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ooo

olive wraith
obtuse needle
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Yeah I feel like I need that haha

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Awesome!

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tysm!

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I'll play around with it and share my progress

olive wraith
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Helps a lot. Really easy to lose track of the conditionals

obtuse needle
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100%

proven stream
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be warned it can go crazy at times

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kaching kaching kaching kaching

obtuse needle
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haha! I don't mind. I'm a drummer lol

lean heart
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4p blasting 13 gambit

obtuse needle
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Nice!

lean heart
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idk what the lock was doing tho lmao

warm umbra
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Tried the ka ching for the first time in prog yesterday

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Changed my life

lost saffron
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What is the dh doing too

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damage so low

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fury never supposed to top overall

hollow leaf
warm umbra
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Tried MT on soulbinder prog and it felt absolutely atrocious

hollow leaf
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Yeah not a fan myself

warm umbra
#

Going back to slayer today for sure

sullen dove
#

big pull

warm umbra
#

Big

smoky vale
sullen dove
#

not sure how r1 loomithar just rips a 6.2m log tho

#

surely just lust in p2 or somethin idk..

warm umbra
#

Do u guys run wrecking throw

sullen dove
#

when theres shields to kill sure

#

usually just also have it in my st build cuz nothing else matters

warm umbra
#

Well that amp goes hard

sullen dove
#

but aoe build not rly

warm umbra
#

I ran it cause i always forget to sb in bladestorm

#

But sb is damage increase overall?

sullen dove
#

i mean

#

its like

#

100k damage

#

1 sidearm proc

warm umbra
#

ye

#

I guess it wont matter

sullen dove
#

actually irrelevant but can do it if you want

#

more dam is more dam

young swan
#

stormbolt is as close to irrelevant as it can possible be without being 0

smoky vale
sullen dove
surreal token
#

do u need to wait for the hit on Fractilus break before u leap

#

or can i cancel the knockback w/ leap

warm umbra
#

Is charge a joke to you

young swan
#

im pretty sure the knockback roots you

#

so u cannot do shit

dapper goblet
#

"at least 3 warriors per raid this tier" - xan

sullen dove
#

"at least 3 warriors per raid this tier" - xan

surreal token
#

i've been cancelling the knockback

#

consistently

sullen dove
#

"at least 3 warriors per raid this tier" - xan

surreal token
#

the issue I noticed is, when i leaped, it looks like i didnt break the walls i was supposed to

young swan
#

thats bad then

#

dont do that

surreal token
#

yeah i thought the line just goes thru u like the walls do

#

but nope

sullen dove
#

me when 1 minor error is made on the predetermined mickey mouse weakaura boss and the entire raid group devolves into monkeys

surreal token
#

u are a projectile

warm umbra
#

So how is warrior doing this tier really

sullen dove
#

p good

warm umbra
#

Looks like we are struggling

young swan
surreal token
#

dps isn't bad

sullen dove
#

wasnt rwf tier but anyone who cares bout comp like that atp are losers

surreal token
#

gameplay makes me pissed

young swan
#

our damage is fine but we just dont do anything special

proven stream
#

Seems pretty ok on ST at least

sullen dove
young swan
#

ST is really good but we have no burst damage, we have no execute

#

we have no funnel

smoky vale
warm umbra
#

So pretty mid

proven stream
#

in most guilds just being a good player - good damage, dont mess up mechs, dont die - is more important than spec

sullen dove
#

mfs playing warrior in the big 25

sullen dove
#

no burst cringe

#

tired of same gameplay entire xpac

surreal token
#

nvm xantaga i was actually uber gaming

sullen dove
#

even when we had burst in s1 it was mostly aoe

surreal token
#

like hardcore omega gaming

sullen dove
#

RA felt good but still flatline for the most part

#

s3 df only good fury

smoky vale
#

real

brittle crow
#

u mean s2 df

#

:3

radiant plank
#

Dont ask for ports guys

sullen dove
#

holy yawn

young swan
#

fury hasnt been good since s3 bfa actually

#

nice try tho

brittle crow
#

thinking fury hasnt been good since legion

#

bring back furious slash

radiant plank
sullen dove
#

s2 df mfs will be like "yooo this set is sooo good man we need to vote this shit right now!!!!" 💶 🤖

radiant plank
#

me want to AA for all my dam ooga booga

fading sky
#

I WANT ancient aftershock !

#

with FIRST strike as a capstone

sullen dove
#

aa cool

fading sky
#

so we go AA INTO bladestorm into DEAD coz of aggro

#

😄

sullen dove
#

just a fancier shockwave tho

#

not that special

fading sky
#

i miss that

#

LOL

sullen dove
#

could replace it tho

fading sky
#

u are so wrong

#

its blue

#

keeps interrupting

#

basicly a hack

sullen dove
#

stun dr's a pack of mobs instantly

fading sky
#

also theres flowers u can stand in

#

😄

#

but yeah we can never have aa unless it replaces shockwave, and then it just turns into a bad utility

radiant plank
#

dont dr the pack

warm umbra
#

Bring back convergence of fate

sullen dove
#

aa but knocks up?

#

thats just am

young swan
#

doesnt AA knockdown

radiant plank
#

yeah

young swan
#

or is it actually just ministun

#

oh

#

whats the problem then

radiant plank
#

there isnt one

sullen dove
#

ain that same shit

radiant plank
#

swordish is slow

sullen dove
#

diff words same biz

radiant plank
#

naw

sullen dove
#

you will perish

young swan
#

pretty sure they are different dr's

smoky vale
molten wing
brittle crow
sullen dove
#

i dont rly recall interacting with furious slash so idrk how much it did or didnt suck i do think i mildly didnt enjoy hitting an extra button that does nothing

sullen dove
#

but think i would take that over frenzy existing rn

#

ayo

molten wing
#

it was such a dogshit

#

ability

brittle crow
molten wing
#

you just had to maintain the buff , was it the haste buff from it

brittle crow
#

goated

sullen dove
#

i kinda miss shadowlands man

molten wing
#

Legion fury still holds a place in my heart but i guess it was just too bursty

surreal token
#

furious slash

young swan
#

shut the fuck up

surreal token
#

holy shit

sullen dove
#

lole

surreal token
#

"I guess it was too bursty" when arcane exists

#

now we're all flat

sullen dove
#

ppl gave oribos shit man but it was kind of fire

brittle crow
river loom
#

S2 dragonflight
Change my mind

surreal token
#

no flying sucks dick and balls

young swan
sullen dove
#

idk how ppl have s2 df existing in their heads

young swan
#

u havent presented an opinion

molten wing
#

honestly what i hated most about the changes after legion etc is making Avatar and all the dmg buffs , only buff your abilities , there was a certain magic using the Glaive trinket from ToS , while playing arms and using the artifact traits before that to apply colossus smash/avatar to everything

sullen dove
#

big fury propaganda just made us worse for the fun season

molten wing
#

or you know , avatar , reck , draught of souls

sullen dove
#

damn umbral moonglaives was so good

olive wraith
#

I might get full 13s on every dungeon before I get invited to a 12 halls

young swan
#

100% the reason why we have this cringe shit every tier where everyone wants the same 3 or 4 trinkets

#

with 0 variety

sullen dove
#

me when i play a ww monk and 4/5 seasons my personal damage and stat reliance is so dogshit my stats are 30/30/0/0 crit verse haste mast and have dmg trinkets doing 20% of my dmg

molten wing
#

yeah , finding something in the middle would have been better

sullen dove
#

played monk a little in sl and was kinda baffled at what wowhead said to put as stats on my legendaries

molten wing
#

they just can't make good trinkets anymore sadga

young swan
#

im not even sure i would call CoF a "good" trinket in the sense of it being well designed

#

it was INSANE rng

brittle crow
#

rng is good

#

my brain is wired INCORRECTLY and remembers the good rng more than the bad rng

molten wing
#

i won't lie looking back at Legion , makes me feel like RNG WAS fun

brittle crow
#

i love GAMBLING

molten wing
#

in the eyes of a more casual player i guess

#

I've never had the same dopamine hit in WoW as when i got the Execute Ring Legendary in Legion for example

young swan
#

i hit that dopamine level during tww beta

#

unhinged cleaving

#

OF at 100% damage buff

molten wing
young swan
#

good lord

#

most fun ive had playing warrior i think

warm umbra
#

Arcanocrystal titanforged socketed with leech

river loom
#

Coral titanforged xDD

smoky vale
young swan
#

dead ass if that was still in slayer it would prob be the defacto m+ spec

lean heart
molten wing
#

Bring back Titanforge , but cap it so it can only go to the next "Upgrade" Track sadge

warm umbra
#

No more gear gamba bingo shit

#

Thanks

lean heart
#

unhinged WW cleave genuinely peak gameplay

young swan
#

the only thing that sucked about unhinged cleaving was thane

#

thane felt REALLY odd with unhinged cleaving

smoky vale
#

what was the opener reck charge avatar rampage of bs cb bt

#

right?

young swan
#

i dont remember

smoky vale
#

wait its not bt bc unhinged

#

wait it is

warm umbra
#

If i have to wait another 30 weeks for a m+ trinket in vault i might just do sum

molten wing
#

didn't you play Odyns Fury and the talent where it gives you 4 stacks of WW

young swan
#

yeah

molten wing
#

so you just add that into the opener and let unhinged , do unhinged things

warm umbra
#

I looted myth arcanocore yesterday

#

So i cant be mad rn

hybrid yew
#

am i high in saying that Slayer 4p feels underwhelming?

young swan
#

yeah most of the gameplay changing elements comes from the 2p

#

if u want giga 4p dopamine play thane

hybrid yew
#

oh yeah? Thane 4p in M+? (i assume slayer still best in raid/single target)

young swan
#

yeah

bitter palm
#

thane 4p is crazy

warm umbra
#

Tb set goes hard

lilac kettle
#

as thane, do we prio BT over rampage (capped rage) on ST ?

warm umbra
#

I think 115 rage rampage > BT

#

Might be wrong

sullen dove
#

think just bt if u dont have 2 tbs

#

idek if enrage matters

#

would hope it does

#

but i just kinda hit all 3 like on cd anyway

#

big jumble mishmash just ball wicked

warm umbra
#

But u are overcapping like cray cray

bitter palm
#

ye but getting tb is huge

warm umbra
#

Tru

smoky vale
#

rage is cosmetic

#

you overcap instantly anyways

bitter palm
#

i love building to ramp in 2 globals without reck

#

why is reck weak ahh

#

why is ramp weak ahh

hybrid yew
#

alright i'll give thane a try next dungeon i run

bitter palm
#

thunder blast is always highest prio

hybrid yew
#

gameplay is just slam TB all the time and keep using BT to try and proc the mega TB? including single targets?

bitter palm
#

ye

warm umbra
#

Ye

hybrid yew
#

word

#

thanks fellow warriors

smoky vale
#

even in st

#

lol

warm umbra
#

Yea

lilac kettle
#

Is there a scenario where we prefer gathering clouds over thorim's might ? more lightning strikes more BTs? 25% rb+ exec dmg and 3 rage doesn't sound good when we do not prio neither rb and exec and we overcap anyway

warm umbra
#

Taking a look at logs its just bt blast bt blast rampage bt blast

hybrid yew
#

thane doesn't really use raging blow that much?

warm umbra
#

Filler i think

#

If no proccs in st -> bt rampage -> rb repeat

#

With proccs i its like blast > bt > rampage with rb filler

lost saffron
#

depends

#

if youre not enraged then rampage above all

warm umbra
#

Yeah enrage at all times

smoky vale
#

@fantasticturtle

#

omg

#

🙁

warm umbra
#

Im still unsure if bt takes prio over 115 rage rampage

#

But

#

I think it definitely doesn’t in singletarget

#

In aoe sure

#

Below 35% it does in st prob

lilac kettle
#

just rechecked the prio on wowhead. it takes prio only if target is under 35%

#

i guess i missed that one initially

radiant plank
#

Guys which pants do i get @smoky vale

smoky vale
#

go to one with most upgrade surely

radiant plank
#

Literally

#

nothing else but pants

smoky vale
#

which has the smallest lootpool

#

i cant check on phone

radiant plank
#

hoa or floodgate

#

but

#

💀

smoky vale
#

both are hell i agree

#

i think hoa is only fun as prot

#

also we cooked a route

#

where you are perma in combat

#

its so fun

radiant plank
#

💀

smoky vale
#

bro that key is aids when cds desync

#

like

#

i have to just sit on pillar

#

because my breath is up in 15-20

#

like its just grief its a big pull

olive wraith
radiant plank
#

no i need pants

eternal compass
#

Finally got 4p and m+ actually started to not feel too bad

#

Better than last season for sure

iron portal
#

Well yes

#

But also...critcake

warm umbra
#

Except im 710, was 3.5k last season and struggling to get invites to 10s

#

Because i play warrior prob

radiant plank
#

skill issue

warm umbra
#

Gotta be

molten wing
#

is this your pov

warm umbra
#

I get declined in +7 too

#

Way overqualified

molten wing
#

honestly i'm been mainly running my key only and i get the gear i can get

warm umbra
#

While last season i played a bit boomie and get insta invites to +17s most of the time

molten wing
#

also i'm pretty sure people looking , also decide based on we need lust / battle res etc and if they lack those

#

no way are they inviting a war

warm umbra
#

Brown color bad

#

Is their brain

#

100%

molten wing
#

as a casual this expansion i kind of wish we had a solo que experience for M+ but i doubt that's every happening

warm umbra
#

i think that would be infinitely more frustrating

#

Bust something in the middle

mossy pelican
#

the bigwigs countdown timer for overinfusion burst on loomi counts to the start of the cast, can i get it to countdown to the end of the cast or do i need to figure out a WA?

warm umbra
#

Its the content creators like yoda who are making meta propaganda to milk views

#

I blame them

#

For all of it

#

And blizzard and maybe a little bit riot

iron portal
#

Time to make WA that auto declines fury warriors

modern cliff
iron portal
#

Inc argument that we need bloodlust

bitter palm
#

aoe cr

molten wing
modern cliff
#

Wasn’t getting there haha but sure

warm umbra
#

We need a bl shout

bitter palm
#

hellscreams warsong

warm umbra
#

And ress

modern cliff
#

I mained warrior all specs (apart from from prot) all s1 and s2 and managed to get 3k rio. But boy was that a struggle

bitter palm
#

sounds tuff af

warm umbra
#

Moralising shout cr

modern cliff
#

Still get the itch to play warrior every single day. Running low keys for now as an alt. Will start farming mythics again hoping when i get shamman to 3k

molten wing
#

Do something with Odyn and the Vala'jar where its similar to Purgatory. A buff like Rally for a few seconds where instead of dying you , fight for your life , and if in the next few seconds you do more damage than the killing blow did to you

#

you survive

warm umbra
#

Cheat death for mates

#

I mean its impossible to balance that

heavy dock
heavy dock
warm umbra
#

Would either be turbo bis or useless

heavy dock
#

that was a cool flavour thing

molten wing
modern cliff
#

Genuine question, Why do you guys think blizzard doesn’t give us the utility that we need?

heavy dock
#

you had 8 sec of being immune to dmg and 100% rage to kill what killed you

#

honestly so cool

warm umbra
#

Because blizzard is incompetent

#

Simple

heavy dock
#

they gave their fav melee a battle res

#

but we cant have bl

#

smh

modern cliff
warm umbra
#

Theyre all ret mains

molten wing
#

if you dig into the warrior fantasy there are so many cool things you can do , but its either hard to balance or they just don't wanna give too much utility since they do not want a repeat of MoP class balance

modern cliff
heavy dock
#

give skull banner back

#

lul

#

mop class balance is so fun

#

everyone is broken

edgy widget
modern cliff
heavy dock
molten wing
#

i tried MoP and i definitely do not wanna go back to that tbh

heavy dock
#

super cool moment

edgy widget
#

yeah 1/100 times it might save you

heavy dock
#

arms in mop was peak ngl

edgy widget
#

again, it was cool, but also pretty useless

heavy dock
#

i played a war a bit and ti felt super good

warm umbra
#

Arms was cooking

heavy dock
#

like in mop classic now i mean

#

arms now feels too bland idk

#

and too many buttons

#

or maybe its the case of fury feeling too good

warm umbra
#

Skullcrusher and demolish is boring

modern cliff
warm umbra
#

I want colossus smash mortal strike big bladestorms

modern cliff
#

Arms is now pumping in m+ and some raid bosses but ain’t no way in hell i’m going back to colossus

edgy widget
#

correction

  • Arms in MoP was good for about a week after launch before getting nerfed straight into the ground
  • Arms was then dogshit for a year and a half of MoP until 5.4 released
  • then it became really cool, but nobody (except Sarri) played it because Fury was even better
heavy dock
#

well

#

counterpoint

#

mop classic going now has 5.4 arms war balancing

#

so its really good

edgy widget
#

yeah but that's classic, not actual mop lol

heavy dock
#

yea its the better revised version

edgy widget
#

Launch version of Taste for Blood was actually cracked, like turbo broken

#

and Blizz quickly realized it DogeLaugh

edgy widget
heavy dock
#

true

#

but id say arms actually feels good to play for once

edgy widget
#

don't get me wrong, I enjoyed (most of) MoP design, but there's some rose tint goin on

warm umbra
#

Isn’t that how it has always been

#

Early arms cook

edgy widget
#

na

heavy dock
#

not in modern times no

edgy widget
#

modern wow balancing doesn't work that way

warm umbra
#

Up to legion

#

I guess it was that way

heavy dock
#

arms in legion was so cooked

#

rng slot machine colossus smash reset spec

edgy widget
#

even MoP wouldn't have worked that way except they made Bloodthirst enrage based off of 2x Crit (and early on in the xpac you have no crit)

warm umbra
#

That head and ring legenday was nutty

heavy dock
#

fury with massacre in execute was funny af

#

cant wait for legion classic ngl

edgy widget
warm umbra
#

Ah

#

Forgot wod existed

edgy widget
#

the only reason it was a thing in MoP is because of the unique way Bloodthirst triggered Enrage made it very gear dependent

hollow leaf
#

I was a bit shook when I found out all warrior specs in mop had enrage

edgy widget
#

diff kind of enrage, but yeah

heavy dock
#

i mean it was kinda the same enrage

edgy widget
#

specifically talkin about Fury's RB proc

heavy dock
#

only fury had it different with mastery and rb

edgy widget
#

yeah, and that makes it different lol

heavy dock
#

i mean ye but im p sure the buff is the same

edgy widget
#

on the surface level, except then other spells get involved

#

but yes, they all have a common buff called enrage

#

that's not actually surprising, they did in Cata too

heavy dock
#

yeah

edgy widget
#

actually I think they did in Wrath as well, come to think of it

heavy dock
#

in all expacs im p sure

#

up to wod?

edgy widget
#

well, Arms didn't technically have it pre-Wrath

#

and the Fury talent of the time was also pretty balls, based on getting hit instead of hitting

heavy dock
#

Back when fury tanking was a thing

edgy widget
#

still can be! I tanked LFR the other day by accident lol

molten wing
#

we can be surprisingly tough if we dont get oneshot keks

edgy widget
#

thankfully the other actual tank was pretty good about taunting and doing everything themselves lmao

molten wing
#

what were you doing in LFR to begin with 😄

earnest canyon
molten wing
#

yeah i heard horror stories about that one

earnest canyon
#

I mean i consider myself quite bad....but then I do LFR.....

molten wing
#

someone joining and them getting like full determination stacks in 10 mins

#

people keep ninja pulling through the gates probably ? 😄

earnest canyon
#

yesterday we were dying too fast to even get stacks

#

people kept taking gate and starting it, noone knew how to do the mass thing, some got knocked off the edge, and then the flying its like they flew into the rocks on purpose

molten wing
#

yeah no way am i touching that keks i'm just doing first two wings for tier on my alts and thats it

warm crag
molten wing
#

oh totally forgot about that existing , make sense

warm crag
#

that system needs to go asap

edgy widget
#

I run lfr each week, it's not so bad

#

even dimensius only took 2 pulls (though only about 6 of us were alive for the entirety of P2 and 3)

heavy dock
#

Lol

hardy bluff
#

you cant even explain tactics on that boss because someone will take the portal and pull the boss

eternal compass
#

The lion doesnt wait for tactics

neat coral
#

Is there a point to hit raging blow in m+ outside of bloodthirst, thunder blast and rampage being down?

neat coral
gloomy loom
#

Why chrisalys neck is reported like bis? Cele mastery neck from M+ sim for me 3 times the dps of the chrisalys

heavy dock
#

its bis for that specific set of gear

#

your results may vary

sudden tusk
remote bobcat
gloomy loom
sudden tusk
#

other necks like the vers mas from floodgate perform at or better until you have the setup

mild coral
#

I thought I was doing okay but it seems like I can improve a lot

heavy dock
#

uptime and more mastery

#

would be my guess

molten wing
#

Its a filler in ST , and if you wanna really make use of it dont you wanna use it when you get adds

#

i have no clue on timers since i haven't done mythic this tier , so maybe you do it so its up when you get more adds but no clue

mild coral
#

takes a short while until adds r up usually I have it up for them

#

but the small adds pop super fast

#

its not worth holding it

#

what matters is big add phase

#

Trinket choice is fine? I was looking at the leaderboards

lime egret
#

Slayer with Whirlwind like the top logs say

#

You're playing Thane and it's just not worth

#

Thane is only good at that big add phase, it's not good outside of it - everything you're doing outside of the big add phase is kinda "wasted" because like you said, small adds die too quick, and it's not worth playing Thane just for the big add phase

#

Keeping up Whirlwind buff is more than good enough for the big add phase

gleaming siren
#

Which means all of the items and all at myth track

#

(This is why looking at BiS lists to inform gearing is misguided at best)

tender pendant
#

Hello guys, I'm new on fury, but wanted to know if it's better than arms?

tender pendant
#

And more easy to play?

lime egret
#

Arms is more methodical, Fury is more fast-paced and slightly chaotic, but there's still a rhythm to it

tender pendant
#

Got it, thanks

astral gorge
wise leaf
tardy lark
#

rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb rampage rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb

cobalt relic
#

how thje fuck do I get rid of these adds

#

is there an addon or sm

warm crag
#

get one of those group finder addons and set the minimum score requirement

cobalt relic
#

what I put it on

brittle crow
#

safe place to start prob

cobalt relic
#

ty

rustic mist
#

quelqu'un a une aura de soif de sang

warm crag
#

i ran your question through google translate if you're asking for the bloodthirst weakaura its completely useless

heavy dock
#

it was useful but not rn

#

also for thane on single target do we prio RB>BT before 35%? or BT is still higher prio

warm crag
#

should be answered on wowhead

#

iirc just bt>rb

heavy dock
#

if im reading this right is rampage lower prio that rb? tf

cobalt relic
#

ITS PAIN AND SUFFERING

heavy dock
#

shouldnt we spam rampage to dump

#

oh nvm its there.. but still delayed

#

hm interesting

warm crag
smoky vale
#

keys prob

#

just get invited to keys lol

#

i love doing a 16 with 3080 io

#

🙂

warm crag
#

i love not doing keys beyond the bare minimum

smoky vale
#

spongus

cobalt relic
#

@warm crag

#

I AM SUFFERING

#

SPONGIE

smoky vale
#

hahahahah

cobalt relic
#

ITS BEEN 2HRS

#

SPONGIE

brittle crow
warm crag
#

tf do you want from me

brittle crow
#

bt gives tblast

#

tblast half ur damage