#fury
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only bad thing right now imo is our capstone fuckign SUCKS
i assume you mean raging blow @neon ocean
It was never used in S3
haha yes
anyone have the sript to level you back piece?
? that was the annihilator tier wasnt it
Yes
We didn’t OS with anni
You never used Onslaught
Not enough talents
yikes annihilation tier must been shit
You had RA, OF and Annihilator
that was a trash tier talent
wedidnt use onslaught in that tier
these pugs cant be serious
Was my fave DF season
it was literally the best tier past 5 years
for fury
lol
dont care dont like gameplay
im looking for the talents on wowhead and theyre just gone lol
bring bach annhi
The gameplay was fun
S3 tier was not bad but it was a very split season in terms of who liked and hated it
For me
I got insulted by a French dude today, I never saw someone be that savage in WoW
this now is the best fury imo
Because Annihilator was removed in TWW
Agree
i might be one of the only ones but s1 sl was good
yeah bro best fury tier (we dont use bloodthirst or troar)
cool tier man
cancelaura bladestorm was fun
not using buttons
even tho most people hated it
Both slayer and thane are fun
can confirm it was S1 we took mass
had to look back at some logs
i remember SL using merciless bonegrinder as fury
we had no using rampage
this is epeanuts
that was an odd time in M+
Was this only for raid? I don’t remember having it for keys
raid
odyns does more on ST in DF than it does on aoe in TWW
probably not in keys
we can thank S1 TWW for that
GOD I MISS HER
You can’t miss a period slam was 1.5% of your dps
the best part of that tier was the slam macro
Goated
rampage macro u mean
no, slam macro
wtf was the slam macro
Fun tier
slam but with the raging blow icon and tooltip
Replaced slam icon with rb
because for some reason people had a really big problem with pressing slam
even tho it had the exact same function in the rotation as rb would have had
Why do people hate slam so much
yeah i always thought that was weird
i played arms for a tier and have 40 slams in a 5 minute fight
no big deal
I don’t hate slam itself, but having a AoE filler and a st filler is aids
Wdym
I don't think I ever press slam
Filler as whirlwind and slam lvl of filler ofc
because WW does more damage than slam now
I mean you used both
In both aoe and st
can we actaully rampage at beggining of dimensius?
since slam had a cd
you can walk back and charge
I didn’t press slam a single time in TWW, as fury
back up and charge
As I said, I didn’t play a lot DF, and I was mainly prot before TWW
Thane*
Dimensius in general not a fun fight to play is it
ehh you would think but back then you had more rage generation in general
the burst would be insane in aoe
Why would that matter?
bladestorm + spear
I guess
yeah i thought maybe i was a hater
but this feels like trash
what trinkets yall running for M+
cant wait to be stuck in mythic in it for a year
rn its more about what you have
Pace/sac
^
dimensius is fine no??
if you only do m+ pretty much
Still trying for idol
I think it’s fun to watch. Like I enjoyed watching rwf cause it’s visually nice. But it’s just kinda boring.
Also don’t know why Blizz made awful hitbox for dimm and loom
Which is weird because sometimes they do really well with melee hitboxes.
can any handsome smart fury warriors tell me why my rage is sometimes resetting to 25 when i try to reck + avatar + charge into a raid pull
Because you use your CDs before the pull starts
hey all, im trying to figure out if i have too much mastery. when searching, everyone says to just follow what sims say. i dont know what sim i should be running though. top gear and quick sim dont look to have any info
Rage resets to 20 when a fight starts
Someone just has to start the fight
You use top gear for gearing and stat purposes
If you are not sure how to use top gear, then there are video and written guides you can find to make it more digestible
It's fairly straight forward once you've done it a few times
Lack of AoE for keys? In a raid? WDYM?
S3 Df. And in keys
you mean M+ keys? Sorry im being super slow here
Ya keys = m+
Sorry thought that was a common way to refer to m+
It is
I came in mid convo after being unable to get back to sleep....my bad
ZEBRAAAAAAAAAAA
Im never killing that last boss

I watched a few videos and they seem super chill and have all the time in the world....im constantly out of position, shit is everywhere, i cant change form fast enough
Go find the outfit that reduces goo damage
Idr
then the single hand kills me cos I got nowhere to g
go
I hate the mechanic of throwing and aiming
i have 10 charges as elephant and I try to throw at hand and it feels like playing with oven gloves on
You playing in handheld?
nope, docked wtih pro controller
Weird that you’re having frame issues
i think its cos there is so much goo
like the dudes in the video have forver to get to the metal balls and punch them away before they start spreading
then have a nice area that is safe
ive been seeing some raid builds in logs and they are using Wrecking throw in rotation, when should i use it?
If the boss is shielded or you have nothing else to press
Or right before you charge in on pull
got it ty
in full st fights ur better off taking wrecking throw over roar lol
ul atleast probabl;y hit it once or twice
lol
On 1st boss, 100%
fract as well
You never have a global to bother with Roar
That's crazy comms and also mathematically incorrect
Or empirically, as anda would correct me
thats not true
there have been times in ST I am stuck with no BT, no RB, no rampage
so i hit roar
rather than WW
I mean no disrespect but mr jill knees is better than either of us
And he used roar twice in r1 frac
You should def take wrecking throw on plexus
And other bosses with shields
You should not drop roar for it tho
when we get to fract ima gona rank 1, mark my words
st is my jammmzzzzzzzz
cant wait to raid friday and saturday. and hopefuly get them fucking boots this week
we have yet to see any plate boots
I got the normal ones w1 and haven't gotten any of the hero ones that have dropped since
gg
Killed Loom… too much having to target swap though 🙁
I had to swap and got a 97 /shrug
Stayed on boss and our ranged killed it most of the time
I'm on Loom right now. This fight is cancer.
Any boss where melee gets to sit there and watch ranged play the game is dumb.
wait on loom ? when does that happen
if you mean when its full energy i usually just jump out when 1/2 seconds are left, you barely lose uptime
More so when you peel back to kill the orb and there are 5 pools in the opening to get back to the boss.
Gillneas is my role model ngl
Dudes a cranker
We almost only dropped plate boots from heroic, we are only 4 plate doods
this trinket rng seems insane left one is Hero track right is champ
for M+ like eco what talents should I drop for wrecking throw? I just tested dropping Rumbling Earth and a point in Crushing Force. Anyone do any other talent options to minimize losses?
my plexus kill last night 
The move speed one
Or the heroic leap one
Are common to drop for other stuff
Those are both im T1 and can't suffice for T2 Honed Reflexes. Also M+ doesn't take Fleet rn
i also had roar which i pressed thrice 😄
lol
roar adds and then leave 
Are you just running the wowhead build
how do i make simc show me the most dps possible i can get from 15 crests with 1 upgrade (i have like 8 upgradeable gilded pieces)
do i have to do each piece with 1 different sim
ye
i feel like im missing a button
there's a button upgrade selected thingies
I guess rumbling and piercing challenge (spear cap)
On raidbots is Dungeon Slice a good Fight style option for simming?
Its ok
top gear sim should handle this
i mean i just did every piece in a different sim
i wasnt sure what button made it NOT 240 combinations
i meant like
But the replace gems and enchants usually adds a ton of combinations
for example i have 8 different pieces of gear i want to upgrade, helmet, ring, trinkets (all diff slots), id want to see 9 combos (baseline + 8 different pieces) not 300 combos of each piece upgraded with some of them not upgraded
oh
i found the button
lmfao
sweet
just give yourself 15 of the crest it costs to upgrade
that does not solve the issue
maybe im explaining it poorly
but i found the button that fixes it
You set your crests at 15 and then max upgrade everything
Mb I didn’t read silm answering
i wonder if a 15k dps loss is worth getting + 23 ilvl for mythic prog
Stupid ass moth is dead
Wrists?
yeah wrists
How do you lose 15k dps with a 23 ilvl jump
I mean its dps loss
its like +150k hp
Oh
150k hp isnt shit
writhing armor band
i mean
15k dps is less than a rounding error
I'd probably take the ilvl/hp
Granted the HP is also not much
But potentially living one pull with a sliver of HP is more impactful than potentially not wiping at .01%
It might be the smol devil in your brain talking because you hate seeing 681 item in your char panel
i do
i had to get rid of jastor
in the exact same way
except it was only -4k dps
im not getting in anyways
o7
fury too shit
Isn't Jastor notoriously oversimming right now and does significantly less than sims claim?
The re-equip bug came back?
yeah
Small indie dev blizzard
holy fuck can we pls have all cd's reset during wipe in raid
hit all cds>wipe> FUCK
i think it was sprocketmonger
I mean, arcane has 90 second cds and they're god's favorite class so I think we have decent odds of seeing it fixed within the next year or two
there was a wall on sprocketmonger where you would like instant wipe and you used cds there
so it was constant "add 40 seconds to that pull timer"
Silken court and ansurek were notoriously awful too
And that smol period where boomie had 2 charge of their CD but it didn’t reset
like 80% fine to do that using it on cd isnt awful but if u familiar with weakauras there is one that lights up when its more "optimal" to hit it
which is like 2 stacks of MFE for the most part + few other random conditions
or thane
Hunters doing 15 mil sustained on gigapacks
I am thane
reset more 
Thane is still capped
If i'm at 130 fury, and my SD weakaura is proccing for being at 2 stacks/3 marks of execution or whatever the conditionals are, should I be hittgin execute FIRST or spending the fury to rampage so I don't overcap?
every spec is capped
Thane is fine on halls
prolly like avoidable situation but i think unless enrage boutta drop im prolly just gonna hit execute there dont really think it matters tho
exe first, don't want to risk losing procs/marks
just feels worse to lose an extra slayerstrike proc since that shit likes to slam 15 of them in 0.5 seconds as soon as target has 3 stacks
I mean I feel like i've been in the situation hundred times during recklessness
yea maybe idk i dont think its the end of the world to lose a little rage considering how much we dumpster spamming rbs after a bs
anyone did the calcs of how much apm is this thing right now with the tier lol
NOOOOO my best rotation ever and i died to thinking to much AHHHH
"should i go this way or this way "
mythic loom is so fun yet so hellish
at least her butt falls off.....then you can say "HAHAHAH! Fatty spider no butt!"
Also, why does raidbot sims and guides have us use avatar prepull with charge? I undersatnd reck for the rage gen, but since it also gives 6s of ava, why also pop ava and waste time of it?
Is it just to get it on CD asap?
I have so many LoL tiktoks bc wasd thing, am I targeted because I play wow ?
arcano core dropped and I was the only one that it even gave dps lol
no screams drop this week though from heroic ofc x.x
so when you charge in you generate enough rage to rampage and get enrage rolling
Heard
if any of you fury warrior pros wanna help me maximize my dps.. just linked tonights log in the help and log review channel.. it would be much appreciated!!
After rampage, how many RBs do i wanna use, assuming no SD procs? Till enrage is about to fall off, or till >115 rage? I feel like im over RBing (tend to do it till enrage is about to fall off, over capping on rage often)
I wanna ramp more right?
Mb thought it was after bs
we got down heroic dimensius! folks dont know how to stay alive 😭
Yeah after BS i know i spam Rb
As slayer RB until you reach 115 rage or lose enrage
They are two separate conditions

Gotcha. For some reason i got it in that RB>ramp all the time unless enrage was gonna fall off
Even if capped
How I personnaly visualize it is more on the rampage side, you have the « rampage for 115 rage » and the « rampage for enrage » and you fill the gap with RBs
And SD ofc
Good deal. Felt like i was doing what i was suppose to in fractilus tonight, but only got an 82%, so figured i was doing something wrong
Usually it is uptime, holding CDs while we currently don’t do that, and again uptime
Might need to see a log to not just throw the common issues
GG btw, the last part is really cool 
honestly the most deaths was the first >>
Also, my arcanocore trinket, while simming for higher, did 20 mil less damage than my tickling sack trinket last week. Does the strength on it vs mastery really make up 20mil?
@oak peak What are u using on ur D.I.S.C? o:
I turn on my pc, but your shaman forgot to press his raid buff
Sim yourself with and without the skyfury, I need 5 min, logs on phone are ass
@oak peak why do u use whirldwind? Better than slam? lol
It is

Honestly, forgot slam was even a thing for ST fury lol. But only casted it twice the whole fight anyways
And on my phone currently as well, so unable to sim since armory is broken. Boo
Yes dw, whirlwind got buffed mid S2, slam is in the graveyard
Yeah that’s what i thought
- it was 2-4k diff before while we do millions since S1
Yeah just trying to see if something was really off. Missing a buff might be part of it…but i felt like i should be higher than i was. My rings suck (champ/heroic jastor diamond) but otherwise gear is ok
a frost dk just bursted 30m dps
yes
Why is my arcanocore (704) simming higher than my Tickling sack (704), but doing 40mil less on a boss?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/XphFPQLn4tvCV2wK?fight=49&type=damage-done&source=3
(arcanocore)
Is the str on arcanocore really making up the difference vs the mastery on sack?
archimedes was in here the other day explaining its a stat diff
So the proc is worse, but the stats make up for it essentially?
ya
Hey everyone, I was wondering what combination of trinkets you would recommend in M+. I have Sacbrood, Pacemaker, and Cursed Stone Idol all 704
I tried simming but I'm not sure how to sim Sac properly since it persists throughout the entire dungeon
if u dont hate using idol that and either of the others prolly fine
idk if pacemaker gets a lil worse maybe if u have 2 trinkets that give a ton of crit
but like more crit surely like compounds on itself
cluegi
ah thats a fair point
would say just sim with idol as main and either of the others
dont think sacbrood matters much on sim since buff lasts a full minute anyway
ya
Soooo ST, when exactly do we fit Thunderous roar in now?
Cuz shit does like nothing
before slam
Oof
idk im just slammin that shit on cd cba desyncing shit as bt filler replacement
if you would fill with whirlwind you press troar instead
As many times as you can
Rage cap doesn’t matter
y only enrage matters
Exe conditionals are higher prio than rb though
Okie just RB got it
Enrage>exe conditionals>rb
Sir yeth sir. Thank you
I play Thane since 4s but I was wondering why RB after BS. When I played Slayer I only see RB to empower enrage dmg. But why specifically after BS?
Slayer talent brutal finish
Increases next rampage damage so in this one case we stack up slaughtering strikes to beef up rampage
Holdup I haven't been doing this lmao
i like how dumbass devs nerf culling cyclone even tho its literally only a st talent
actually so stupid to think about this stuff on st
when cyclone should just be better
"oh no bladestorm burst so strong in s1!!! better nerf the useless st talent!!!"
It’s in the prio 
Ah so you stack the RB buff for rampage together with the BS buff for rampage
Yes
I must say it was is written there without a why, or I missed it
I think it’s got pretty bare bones explanation
Can’t remember if it lists why
Yeah must've missed it
Still got 95 on mythic plexus 
Wow head prio is generalized so it’s easier to follow

New players don’t necessarily need to know how everything comes together
Thats fair
As long as they’re doing stuff correctly they’ll eventually (maybe). Figure out why things are done the way they are
Sometimes I read who knows
You’re playing the wrong class then 
No read
Just zug
hi can you please read my message
I feel that , if nameplates go from green to orange and suddenly to red , my defensive shadow meld gets used
does anyone know what I'm doing wrong in this log? Loom ST. Any input is super valuable https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7ZWvNkwFXt24xCjY?fight=10&type=damage-done&source=45
am I doing the rotation wrong?
or just those 2 things?
I feel like I'm decent at keeping uptime
Do you have 4p
I’m not seeing very many exe casts
yeah! Just not hitting execute enough?
You only press it when you meet the conditionals
But at a glance it looks like you’re probably sitting on 3 mfe stacks a bit
hmm, ok I'll pay more attention to this. Thank you!
Do you have the wa
Actually looks like you kinda got screwed with no SD procs pretty early
I could be wrong
I’m on mobile so it’s kinda cringe looking through
No worries! Yeah I felt like I wasn't getting procs/clunky. However, I do wana know if I'm sitting on exec stacks
Grab the WA if you don’t have it already
do you have a link? I don't use WA that much, but it'll just alert me when to execute?
Makes a kaching sound when you should press
ooo
Yeah I feel like I need that haha
Awesome!
tysm!
I'll play around with it and share my progress
Helps a lot. Really easy to lose track of the conditionals
100%
haha! I don't mind. I'm a drummer lol
4p blasting 13 gambit
Nice!
idk what the lock was doing tho lmao
Really need adds to be stacked and not run about on first area xd
Tried MT on soulbinder prog and it felt absolutely atrocious
Yeah not a fan myself
Going back to slayer today for sure
big pull
Big

not sure how r1 loomithar just rips a 6.2m log tho
surely just lust in p2 or somethin idk..
Do u guys run wrecking throw
when theres shields to kill sure
usually just also have it in my st build cuz nothing else matters
Well that amp goes hard
but aoe build not rly
I ran it cause i always forget to sb in bladestorm
But sb is damage increase overall?
stormbolt is as close to irrelevant as it can possible be without being 0
bro please
do u need to wait for the hit on Fractilus break before u leap
or can i cancel the knockback w/ leap
Is charge a joke to you
"at least 3 warriors per raid this tier" - xan
"at least 3 warriors per raid this tier" - xan
"at least 3 warriors per raid this tier" - xan
the issue I noticed is, when i leaped, it looks like i didnt break the walls i was supposed to
me when 1 minor error is made on the predetermined mickey mouse weakaura boss and the entire raid group devolves into monkeys
u are a projectile
So how is warrior doing this tier really
p good
Looks like we are struggling
its not a wizard so its shit
dps isn't bad
wasnt rwf tier but anyone who cares bout comp like that atp are losers
gameplay makes me pissed
our damage is fine but we just dont do anything special
Seems pretty ok on ST at least
i think i fixed it
So pretty mid
in most guilds just being a good player - good damage, dont mess up mechs, dont die - is more important than spec
i earn warrior brain role
nvm xantaga i was actually uber gaming
even when we had burst in s1 it was mostly aoe
like hardcore omega gaming
real
Dont ask for ports guys
holy yawn
idk dfs2 pre aug fury was something big
s2 df mfs will be like "yooo this set is sooo good man we need to vote this shit right now!!!!" 💶 🤖
@ all euers
s3 df mfs will be like "yooo this set is sooo good man we need to vote this shit right now!!!!" 💶 🤖
me want to AA for all my dam ooga booga
aa cool
could replace it tho
stun dr's a pack of mobs instantly
also theres flowers u can stand in
😄
but yeah we can never have aa unless it replaces shockwave, and then it just turns into a bad utility
Play colossus noob
dont dr the pack
Bring back convergence of fate
doesnt AA knockdown
yeah
there isnt one
ain that same shit
swordish is slow
diff words same biz
naw
you will perish
pretty sure they are different dr's
perish bc not try again
shut your dirty ass mouth , right now
shut it for me
i dont rly recall interacting with furious slash so idrk how much it did or didnt suck i do think i mildly didnt enjoy hitting an extra button that does nothing
its like whirlwind as filler except pure st and ur forced to press it for haste
you just had to maintain the buff , was it the haste buff from it
goated
i kinda miss shadowlands man
Legion fury still holds a place in my heart but i guess it was just too bursty
furious slash
shut the fuck up
holy shit
lole
ppl gave oribos shit man but it was kind of fire
return condemn
S2 dragonflight
Change my mind
no flying sucks dick and balls
change ur mind about what
idk how ppl have s2 df existing in their heads
u havent presented an opinion
honestly what i hated most about the changes after legion etc is making Avatar and all the dmg buffs , only buff your abilities , there was a certain magic using the Glaive trinket from ToS , while playing arms and using the artifact traits before that to apply colossus smash/avatar to everything
big fury propaganda just made us worse for the fun season
or you know , avatar , reck , draught of souls
damn umbral moonglaives was so good
I might get full 13s on every dungeon before I get invited to a 12 halls
i think changing cds to not affect trinkets was prob good, but stopping mastery's from interacting has just been bad for the game
100% the reason why we have this cringe shit every tier where everyone wants the same 3 or 4 trinkets
with 0 variety
me when i play a ww monk and 4/5 seasons my personal damage and stat reliance is so dogshit my stats are 30/30/0/0 crit verse haste mast and have dmg trinkets doing 20% of my dmg
yeah , finding something in the middle would have been better
played monk a little in sl and was kinda baffled at what wowhead said to put as stats on my legendaries
they just can't make good trinkets anymore 
im not even sure i would call CoF a "good" trinket in the sense of it being well designed
it was INSANE rng
rng is good
my brain is wired INCORRECTLY and remembers the good rng more than the bad rng
i won't lie looking back at Legion , makes me feel like RNG WAS fun
i love GAMBLING
in the eyes of a more casual player i guess
I've never had the same dopamine hit in WoW as when i got the Execute Ring Legendary in Legion for example

Arcanocrystal titanforged socketed with leech
Coral titanforged xDD
we lost peak
dead ass if that was still in slayer it would prob be the defacto m+ spec
they were too scared of us being good
Bring back Titanforge , but cap it so it can only go to the next "Upgrade" Track 
unhinged WW cleave genuinely peak gameplay
the only thing that sucked about unhinged cleaving was thane
thane felt REALLY odd with unhinged cleaving
i dont remember
If i have to wait another 30 weeks for a m+ trinket in vault i might just do sum
didn't you play Odyns Fury and the talent where it gives you 4 stacks of WW
yeah
so you just add that into the opener and let unhinged , do unhinged things
just open vault with good one
am i high in saying that Slayer 4p feels underwhelming?
yeah most of the gameplay changing elements comes from the 2p
if u want giga 4p dopamine play thane
oh yeah? Thane 4p in M+? (i assume slayer still best in raid/single target)
yeah
thane 4p is crazy
Tb set goes hard
as thane, do we prio BT over rampage (capped rage) on ST ?
think just bt if u dont have 2 tbs
idek if enrage matters
would hope it does
but i just kinda hit all 3 like on cd anyway
big jumble mishmash just ball 
But u are overcapping like cray cray
ye but getting tb is huge
Tru
i love building to ramp in 2 globals without reck
why is reck weak ahh
why is ramp weak ahh
alright i'll give thane a try next dungeon i run
thunder blast is always highest prio
gameplay is just slam TB all the time and keep using BT to try and proc the mega TB? including single targets?
ye
Ye
Yea
Is there a scenario where we prefer gathering clouds over thorim's might ? more lightning strikes more BTs? 25% rb+ exec dmg and 3 rage doesn't sound good when we do not prio neither rb and exec and we overcap anyway
Taking a look at logs its just bt blast bt blast rampage bt blast
thane doesn't really use raging blow that much?
Filler i think
If no proccs in st -> bt rampage -> rb repeat
With proccs i its like blast > bt > rampage with rb filler
Yeah enrage at all times
Im still unsure if bt takes prio over 115 rage rampage
But
I think it definitely doesn’t in singletarget
In aoe sure
Below 35% it does in st prob
just rechecked the prio on wowhead. it takes prio only if target is under 35%
i guess i missed that one initially
Guys which pants do i get @smoky vale
what other stuff are you missing from those 3 dungeons
go to one with most upgrade surely
both are hell i agree
i think hoa is only fun as prot
also we cooked a route
where you are perma in combat
its so fun
💀
bro that key is aids when cds desync
like
i have to just sit on pillar
because my breath is up in 15-20
like its just grief its a big pull
Did you need idol?
no i need pants
Finally got 4p and m+ actually started to not feel too bad
Better than last season for sure
Except im 710, was 3.5k last season and struggling to get invites to 10s
Because i play warrior prob
skill issue
Gotta be
is this your pov
honestly i'm been mainly running my key only and i get the gear i can get
While last season i played a bit boomie and get insta invites to +17s most of the time
also i'm pretty sure people looking , also decide based on we need lust / battle res etc and if they lack those
no way are they inviting a war
as a casual this expansion i kind of wish we had a solo que experience for M+ but i doubt that's every happening
the bigwigs countdown timer for overinfusion burst on loomi counts to the start of the cast, can i get it to countdown to the end of the cast or do i need to figure out a WA?
Its the content creators like yoda who are making meta propaganda to milk views
I blame them
For all of it
And blizzard and maybe a little bit riot
Time to make WA that auto declines fury warriors
Unfortunately it is the reason i rerolled to ele shamman. But my heart and soul truly belongs to fury warrior
Inc argument that we need bloodlust
aoe cr
I'm pretty sure , Blizz added that to the base UI as you can see 
Wasn’t getting there haha but sure
We need a bl shout
hellscreams warsong
And ress
I mained warrior all specs (apart from from prot) all s1 and s2 and managed to get 3k rio. But boy was that a struggle
sounds tuff af
Moralising shout cr
Still get the itch to play warrior every single day. Running low keys for now as an alt. Will start farming mythics again hoping when i get shamman to 3k
Do something with Odyn and the Vala'jar where its similar to Purgatory. A buff like Rally for a few seconds where instead of dying you , fight for your life , and if in the next few seconds you do more damage than the killing blow did to you
you survive

can we just get lust already smh
so like the one thing in legion that happened every now and then?
Would either be turbo bis or useless
that was a cool flavour thing
yeah , that's what i was thinking about
Genuine question, Why do you guys think blizzard doesn’t give us the utility that we need?
you had 8 sec of being immune to dmg and 100% rage to kill what killed you
honestly so cool
Cmon give a real answer 😂
Theyre all ret mains
if you dig into the warrior fantasy there are so many cool things you can do , but its either hard to balance or they just don't wanna give too much utility since they do not want a repeat of MoP class balance
This
it was cool, but also pretty useless
I missed MoP. What happened with warriors?
saved me a key on eye of azshara as last one standing
i tried MoP and i definitely do not wanna go back to that tbh
super cool moment
yeah 1/100 times it might save you
arms in mop was peak ngl
again, it was cool, but also pretty useless
i played a war a bit and ti felt super good
Arms was cooking
like in mop classic now i mean
arms now feels too bland idk
and too many buttons
or maybe its the case of fury feeling too good
Skullcrusher and demolish is boring
They are getting a rework no?
I want colossus smash mortal strike big bladestorms
Arms is now pumping in m+ and some raid bosses but ain’t no way in hell i’m going back to colossus
correction
- Arms in MoP was good for about a week after launch before getting nerfed straight into the ground
- Arms was then dogshit for a year and a half of MoP until 5.4 released
- then it became really cool, but nobody (except Sarri) played it because Fury was even better
well
counterpoint
mop classic going now has 5.4 arms war balancing
so its really good
yeah but that's classic, not actual mop lol
yea its the better revised version
Launch version of Taste for Blood was actually cracked, like turbo broken
and Blizz quickly realized it 
Takes me back
even then, the only reason Arms is getting any attention in MoP Classic rn is because Fury is so gear restricted
don't get me wrong, I enjoyed (most of) MoP design, but there's some rose tint goin on
na
not in modern times no
modern wow balancing doesn't work that way
even MoP wouldn't have worked that way except they made Bloodthirst enrage based off of 2x Crit (and early on in the xpac you have no crit)
That head and ring legenday was nutty
WoD wasn't either; that idea died after they normalized rage generation in Wrath
the only reason it was a thing in MoP is because of the unique way Bloodthirst triggered Enrage made it very gear dependent
I was a bit shook when I found out all warrior specs in mop had enrage
diff kind of enrage, but yeah
i mean it was kinda the same enrage
specifically talkin about Fury's RB proc
only fury had it different with mastery and rb
yeah, and that makes it different lol
i mean ye but im p sure the buff is the same
on the surface level, except then other spells get involved
but yes, they all have a common buff called enrage
that's not actually surprising, they did in Cata too
yeah
actually I think they did in Wrath as well, come to think of it
well, Arms didn't technically have it pre-Wrath
and the Fury talent of the time was also pretty balls, based on getting hit instead of hitting
Back when fury tanking was a thing
still can be! I tanked LFR the other day by accident lol
we can be surprisingly tough if we dont get oneshot 
thankfully the other actual tank was pretty good about taunting and doing everything themselves lmao
what were you doing in LFR to begin with 😄
go and do LFR dimensius, i promise you will laugh
yeah i heard horror stories about that one
I mean i consider myself quite bad....but then I do LFR.....
someone joining and them getting like full determination stacks in 10 mins
people keep ninja pulling through the gates probably ? 😄
yesterday we were dying too fast to even get stacks
people kept taking gate and starting it, noone knew how to do the mass thing, some got knocked off the edge, and then the flying its like they flew into the rocks on purpose
yeah no way am i touching that
i'm just doing first two wings for tier on my alts and thats it
usually only to get the 3% damage buff before guild reclear
oh totally forgot about that existing , make sense
that system needs to go asap
I run lfr each week, it's not so bad
even dimensius only took 2 pulls (though only about 6 of us were alive for the entirety of P2 and 3)
Lol
you cant even explain tactics on that boss because someone will take the portal and pull the boss
Is there a point to hit raging blow in m+ outside of bloodthirst, thunder blast and rampage being down?
na
Ty ty
Why chrisalys neck is reported like bis? Cele mastery neck from M+ sim for me 3 times the dps of the chrisalys
you have to have every piece of the puzzle to make it bis
Bis lists are bad in modern wow because they give the false impression of target pieces when sims should always tell you what to target
I have the same bis items from the guide, in a mix of myth/hc version but still the m+ neck sim almost 3 Times more
other necks like the vers mas from floodgate perform at or better until you have the setup
Link it
how do I improve? just more uptime on the boss?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/70042501?difficulty=5&boss=3130
I thought I was doing okay but it seems like I can improve a lot
what's the idea behind using Dragon's Roar 8-9 seconds in the fight
Its a filler in ST , and if you wanna really make use of it dont you wanna use it when you get adds
i have no clue on timers since i haven't done mythic this tier , so maybe you do it so its up when you get more adds but no clue
yea
takes a short while until adds r up usually I have it up for them
but the small adds pop super fast
its not worth holding it
what matters is big add phase
Trinket choice is fine? I was looking at the leaderboards
Play Slayer on this boss
Slayer with Whirlwind like the top logs say
You're playing Thane and it's just not worth
Thane is only good at that big add phase, it's not good outside of it - everything you're doing outside of the big add phase is kinda "wasted" because like you said, small adds die too quick, and it's not worth playing Thane just for the big add phase
Keeping up Whirlwind buff is more than good enough for the big add phase
Then you don't have those same items. They're BiS in exactly that combination at max ilvl.
Which means all of the items and all at myth track
(This is why looking at BiS lists to inform gearing is misguided at best)
Hello guys, I'm new on fury, but wanted to know if it's better than arms?
Pretty much yeah
And more easy to play?
I'd say so probably - quicker, a lot more button presses, but a simpler rotation to an extent
Arms is more methodical, Fury is more fast-paced and slightly chaotic, but there's still a rhythm to it
Got it, thanks
Thane only works if the adds stay for quite a while and / or the boss dies quickly after 2nd set or you play a 3rd set. Your raid ignored adds to kill boss for straight 2 minutes which fcks your overall quite a lot especially as thane
aint very chaotic this tier considering ur mainly pressing build rage and spend rage
rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb rampage rbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb
get one of those group finder addons and set the minimum score requirement
if someone ain't at least 2k by now they're a bot
safe place to start prob
ty
quelqu'un a une aura de soif de sang
i ran your question through google translate if you're asking for the bloodthirst weakaura its completely useless
it was useful but not rn
also for thane on single target do we prio RB>BT before 35%? or BT is still higher prio
if im reading this right is rampage lower prio that rb? tf
spongie I AINT GETTING IN
ITS PAIN AND SUFFERING
shouldnt we spam rampage to dump
oh nvm its there.. but still delayed
hm interesting
getting in what
i love not doing keys beyond the bare minimum
spongus
hahahahah
rampage doesn't give tblast
tf do you want from me