fury

[young swan]

it was poggers

[smoky vale]

do you raid tonight

[young swan]

yeah

[smoky vale]

gg

what time

[young swan]

9-1 est

[smoky vale]

gg

[young swan]

prime raiding hours

[smoky vale]

could have brought showingbelly to my heroic clear

get you free aotc

[young swan]

fugma

[sullen dove]

bro actin like he owns his guild now

[smoky vale]

no but ik every week they geeking to get 30 people in

for max rewards

[verbal plume]

Really, they always want max

They do master loot or loot council

[smoky vale]

yeah but who cares

[dusk urchin]

shoot me a inv bro

[wheat lantern]

I got 165 gilded for this week , what can i stat boost wise or keep just holding for myth tracks ? and bank 60 away for my bracers later ?

[radiant hamlet]

Ive been doing multiple sims and my brain is going to melt. Is there a range soft cap on mastery/haste? sorry for the dumb question

[sullen dove]

there is but usually not worth thinkin about what is sim not supa clear with

[sullen dove]

if u have absolutely 0 myth track prolly fine to upgrade like some big stat value hero track items like chest/leg/helm and maybe if u have 1 good trinket

wouldnt sink absolutely all your gildeds into hero but spending like half of it is prolly fine and prudent enough

[wheat lantern]

I have 2 710 trinks ,was thinking of doing hero helm / shoulders / legs and call it

[sullen dove]

yea i mean probably fine

[wheat lantern]

no myth yet

[sullen dove]

chest more stats than shoulder if u have a choice but if chest is champ then w/e

[wheat lantern]

yeah chest is champ sadge

[sullen dove]

u can sim upgrading each piece to 710 and like set a cap on gilded of how many you want to spend

like change it to 90 o rsomething for example to only upgrade 3 items to max

[wheat lantern]

yep thats the plan , ill sim it out ty ty

90 seems okay

[sullen dove]

it probably wont say much diff stuff than helm/legs but maybe

[brittle crow]

whats the optimal way to use stone idol

clap -> idol -> ramp/ava -> spear feels like the way

[flint flame]

gUYS

[brittle crow]

guys

[flint flame]

I got a question regarding this priority list

[brittle crow]

i am all knowing

[flint flame]

from what I am understanding from this, stacking raging blow up to 5 stacks has prioriity over rage capping?

[brittle crow]

yes

[flint flame]

really now

[brittle crow]

yes

[flint flame]

aight

[brittle crow]

only after bladestorm obvi

but yes

[sullen dove]

also under prio of losing enrage

so like you gotta be giga lucky to get 5 rbs in a row not super common

think you might rather send a 3mfe exe anyway

so doubly less of a reason/possibility to chain 5

[flint flame]

yeah but i'd be overcapping rage a lot

[sullen dove]

yea just a bit after every bs

[brittle crow]

warriors havent cared abt overcapping rage for like

4 expacs

u will be ok

[flint flame]

aight

I was thinking about reckleness resets and stuff

main oputlaw mentality

[brittle crow]

just wait til you play mountain thane and go for 8 or more globals at max rage

clap -> clap -> bloodthirst -> bloodthirst -> bloodthirst -> clap -> clap -> clap moment

[flint flame]

yikes

[olive wraith]

Our cooldowns aren’t super impactful

No worries

[flint flame]

well I know now what Ive been doing wrong lol

Thanks

[wheat lantern]

swear i just had a big mamma fight with maybe 6 procs and it was the worst time

[sullen dove]

i mean aint no way u hittin blasts without enrage

[brittle crow]

bloodthirst enrages u

[olive wraith]

Lucky bt enrages maybe

[sour thorn]

for slayer do i only ever cast execute during the weakaura?

[brittle crow]

gooftaga

[sullen dove]

surely drop that shit in that many globals

with a chance brah

[sullen dove]

pmuch

[brittle crow]

if u dont get enraged after 3 bloodthirsts consider giving up

tbh

[wheat lantern]

I have it happen many times

it feels bad

[obtuse stump]

Hey friends, can someone help me understand what about my setup makes Soulbreaker Sigil sim so high?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2DEjyPwfHa1raRSKH23pGQ

Genuinely extremely confused

Was under the impression that antenna was bis

[wispy fog]

probably because you have heaps of crit. Why do you have crit socketed in your cloak?

[obtuse stump]

Ahh ... yeah, wow. I was starting off as arms for this season

[obtuse stump]

Thanks 🙂

[wispy fog]

Np 🙂

[flint flame]

one last question

how important is to keep gushing wound on the target with ST build?

[olive wraith]

You don’t even think about it

[hidden stirrup]

it just works

[quiet breach]

someone link cone execute weakaura?

[olive wraith]

We don’t really press bt in single target so it’s gonna have a bad uptime

[flint flame]

I was watching a Critcake's vod and he tends to use it only when he fully stacks bloodcraze

or maby when he doesnt have anything else to press idk

but aight thank you

[latent stone]

what raid bosses are thane better for

[lusty jungle]

araz and soul hunters imo

[dire vigil]

tough choices

[olive wraith]

Ya it’s like bottom in the prio

Basically only if you have no other buttons

[olive wraith]

Gold angle

[rustic cape]

whats teh rough target for mastery? low to mid 80%?

[olive wraith]

No such thing

We sim and we don’t think

[flat river]

neck is BiS no?

[dire vigil]

raid neck?

[bitter ether]

Sorry for random question but in Slayer fury after blade storm do we really send two raging blows afterword even though we could be rage capped? Instead of rampage first?

[olive wraith]

We don’t care about capping rage

[rustic cape]

fair enough. just skipped s2 on my warrior so i'm trying to get in the right direction after ilvl

[rotund ginkgo]

QUICK

EASY

17

BEFORE RESET

ETA

BOY

[dire vigil]

yeah, prob the play

[summer quail]

in st always yes. in m+ or fights where there are adds not always depending on timings

[olive wraith]

You keep pressing rb until you’re about to drop enrage. Exe conditionals are also higher prio than rb after bladestorm

[bitter palm]

real unfortunate

[flat river]

which is stupid

[rotund ginkgo]

ye

[bitter palm]

hooooly

goat

[rotund ginkgo]

had to tell her

[jaunty trellis]

is raging blow a bigger prio then rampage now in ST slayer?

[dire vigil]

yeah in my mythic raid prio it's 3rd most impactful piece after 623 mainhand weapon and an antenna, wild

[rotund ginkgo]

what the fuck is this key even

LOL

[wicked cloak]

Well you RB until 115 rage and then rampage. But you never RB if not enraged. And you spam RB until 5 stacks of SS after a Bladestorm

[bitter ether]

ty peeps

[jaunty trellis]

thats what im doing

[flat river]

gamers

[jaunty trellis]

but this warr isnt

and hes destroying me

[rotund ginkgo]

wym he isnt

[rotund ginkgo]

he clearly is

his RB is far ahead of his ramp

[rotund ginkgo]

hes clearly prioritizing RB

and ur clearly not

[jaunty trellis]

hes over capping rage

[wicked cloak]

seems like your pressing rampage to early

[rotund ginkgo]

i mean

[wicked cloak]

are u spamming it after BS? Regardless if u cap or not

[rotund ginkgo]

ur gonna overcap a bit

after BS u send as many RBs as u can

then u rampage

u can literally have a BS and end it with
RB > RB > RB > exec > rampage

even if u overcap rage

[wheat lantern]

@jaunty trellis

get those RBs in boi

even if cap

but dont let enrage fall off

[silent gazelle]

man everyone cranking today off upgrades

not I

[rotund ginkgo]

speak for urself

im not raiding this week

i got first week bad logs

[wheat lantern]

i went 702 to 707, ill take it . i dont mythic raid

[wicked cloak]

@jaunty trellis

[jaunty trellis]

max of 5

[rotund ginkgo]

yeah

ur not gonna get 5

ever

in a row

and if u are ur not enraged anymore

[jaunty trellis]

i have beable to get 7

[rotund ginkgo]

so ur trolling

[wicked cloak]

it caps at 5

[jaunty trellis]

hero and PI kek

[rotund ginkgo]

yeah he meant he got 7 RBs back to back

[wheat lantern]

homie playing RB simulator

[signal epoch]

Is astral antenna still good after nerfs or are other trinkets better now?

[wicked cloak]

If its HC then similar to what we can get from Dungs

[wheat lantern]

710 sacbrood would pair better with antenna im assuming ?

[wicked cloak]

Brood / Sac being close

[earnest canyon]

id like to know this too as 3% seems like nothing, or am I misunderstanding the trinket?

[wheat lantern]

or keep it like that , feel like to much crit going on

[earnest canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[olive wraith]

We sim and we don’t think

[undone flower]

You can RB before your BS

[rotund ginkgo]

yeah

[undone flower]

And pray god

[rotund ginkgo]

im talking about just spamming RB

not about having 5 stacks

[undone flower]

Yeah for the reset i usually get max 4

[rotund ginkgo]

yeah iirc 3-4

[olive wraith]

I mean this still risks running out of enrage lol

[undone flower]

not really if you play deft

[brittle crow]

is there a macro to use cauldron flasks if i have em but my own if i dont

potions

[undone flower]

with deft you can pretty much send bs whatever your enrage remaining time

[soft whale]

Can someone please link the Execute WA

[olive wraith]

#dps-faq

[soft whale]

Ahhh TY

[earnest canyon]

Hi Steve, it's me Larry

[olive wraith]

Hi Larry it’s me Barry

[earnest canyon]

should I buy totk with the switch 2 upgrade Barry?

[olive wraith]

How much is switch 1 version

[hardy vault]

the sim is updated with nerf/buff trinket ?

[hardy vault]

thanks !

[slim coral]

Are the red hammers from pvp

[woven valley]

It’s peak

Runs so good on switch 2

[earnest canyon]

$70, or $80 for switch 2

[earnest canyon]

Yeah im thinking of getting of getting it cos I only have DK and mario kart lol

[candid falcon]

if you have switch 1 games downloaded does the switch 2 get those games too

[woven valley]

dk is the best game ive played in years

[earnest canyon]

I think so... I was a bit naughty with Switch 1....I have like 100+ games but you know....

[woven valley]

pure fun from start to finish

and im very very critical of games these days lol

[earnest canyon]

agree....but im on last last fight and i keep dying so want something else

[charred flint]

So

Dragon Roar is a shit button

Should i use it in 2 target?

[earnest canyon]

it cant be shit, it has dragon in the name

[charred flint]

not sure if its a dps loss in the Salad Guy phase with the dragon

[woven valley]

last fight was ROUGH it makes you use mechanics for each of his attacks

[earnest canyon]

yeah my sausage fingers are too slow scrolling through the different forms

[woven valley]

think i died 3 times before i got him, i really hope they make another dk game soon its too good to let it be one and done

[earnest canyon]

they prolly will but the mario odyssey team made dk and they had already moved on to making the next ge mario apparently

[woven valley]

it better have some of the dk feel

the free movement felt so good

i loved not having stamina or worrying about falling

[olive wraith]

70$ for a game that’s like 3 years old is robbery

[brittle crow]

how do i use stone idol on pull in raid

as i charge?

[earnest canyon]

nintendo first party games never get a price reduction, or if they do its like $5 or something on the physical cart....but weirdly physical carts are much slower to read from....apparently it goes
Internal storage > decent micro sd card > physical cart....

so its best to buy the online versions of games

i think charging for upgrades for old games is robbery....it should be free to show off the new console

[olive wraith]

Ya

Idk my cheap ass would buy the 70 one

[earnest canyon]

the upgraded one apparently runs way way better and has a few new nice to have features....

but you know what the greediest thing they do is? You pay a fee to play online right? Well you can pay more for "premium" that also includes the Switch 2 upgrades for any Switch 1 games you own....if you ever cancel your online sub, you lose access to the Switch 2 upgrades and are stuck with the Switch 1 versions.

[willow granite]

How bad is single minded fury?

[brittle crow]

very

[willow granite]

sucks, I wanna mess around with it

[earnest canyon]

nothing stopping you, you will just do less dps

and need 2x 1handers

[willow granite]

i have 2 heoric 1handers right now but meh

[olive wraith]

It’s like 10% worse

[hardy cargo]

is there a sim string to see the differences in so'leah choices like there is for race sims?

[earnest canyon]

I did it manually....there is an override string that I just edited each time for haste, crit etc.....not sure how to make it compare all 4 stats in one single run

[undone flower]

There is an option now to change it

[earnest canyon]

oh cool

[earnest canyon]

sweet, but you still need to do multiple sims right?

[brittle crow]

i want to replace jastor diamond so bad

but nothing is simming higher

[undone flower]

I did multiple yes, idk if you can do in one

[earnest canyon]

I assume that just does what I did and override in the footer?
shadowlands.soleahs_secret_technique_type_override=haste

[honest sundial]

jastor is bugged and can proc way less than it's supposed to be

[brittle crow]

word?

so i should replace it

[honest sundial]

so just replace it with 704 ring

[undone flower]

Hasté / mastery / vers

[honest sundial]

u can check the buff urself in logs and confirm that, it may work 100% properly, or may not work at all

[olive wraith]

It can also proc more than normal

[brittle crow]

704 ring is haste/vers tho

[olive wraith]

Who cares what stats

It’ll all work out

[honest sundial]

well idk how much exactly jastor effect is worth, but it may still be worth to replace it with any 704 ring, at least damage will be consistent
and haste versa isn't bad stats

[brittle crow]

cuz i gotta buy sockets for em

and enchants

[olive wraith]

Ya but ring stats don’t really matter

Robot told me to make my wep haste vers

[edgy widget]

let's go

[olive wraith]

👑

You dropped this

[slim coral]

W

[tepid cedar]

gz homie

[rotund ginkgo]

actual chad

[earnest canyon]

sign my boobs

[slim coral]

Top 17 baby

[wispy fog]

Just... how?? This trinket is so rng 🤔 9.5% of your damage is straight up illegal

[summer quail]

trinket good

[edgy widget]

super secret strats

I also upped it to 710

[wispy fog]

Yeah... super secret strats... I see... 😒

[olive wraith]

Used spear with wrecking throw

[tepid cedar]

hes running 30% vers

or his special ring given by blizz

[wispy fog]

Only 9.5k vers. I think the trinket is just giga rng

[sullen dove]

almost

maybe next week more hp

got sac i think idk if i got anything else

[edgy widget]

super secret strats 😉

[wispy fog]

Real and based leave the peasants to do mechanics

[edgy widget]

Fury does negative damage to the adds anyway

p sure you lose more damage to Frenzy/AJ/Mark falloff than you deal to them

[wispy fog]

Hard agree but I have no doubts people will grumble about it 😛

[edgy widget]

3rd intermission hurts without a healer though, so you really gotta save defensives

[edgy widget]

it's easier to ask forgiveness than permission

[sullen dove]

yea i mean ur contribution on the add means nothing its def worse if u just die while by yourself tho

only real issue with doing that

[wispy fog]

Hell yeah. Our ele shaman pretty much solos those adds for us anyway

[edgy widget]

yeah it's all ranged and dh kills on them, they're already dead by the time I charge em

[undone flower]

i tried to do it by constant charging the boss but the time alone felt harsh on the hp

i pussied out and returned with the group

[edgy widget]

it takes a well timed leap too; too early and you get knocked back, too late and you get blocked by bubbles

you can actually leap over the side of some bubbles, but it's super tricky

[pulsar quest]

what in the holy fuck do u guys have to do to get over 8m on soulbinder

aint no way

[sullen dove]

not play with an ele sham or somethin

couple others in there too prolly

[summer quail]

our ww destroys them as well... he saves his crackling lightning for each add set

disgusting

[final epoch]

Is anyone else sitting at 16k vers at 710 I’m tanking packs in 10s just because I can

[junior gale]

basically play with ppl who dont blow up adds

[smoky vale]

7 tbs

lol

[junior gale]

huge

[sullen dove]

what procs

[pulsar quest]

i get like 1 tb off before my adds died

[sullen dove]

o in the small window

[young swan]

a crit tier set proc just does 20m to the adds

so if u get lucky u just omega parse

pretty sure slayer is just better if u want consistent parses

[sullen dove]

i take those odds

https://tenor.com/view/hakari-kinji-kinji-hakari-hakari-kinji-kashimo-hajime-gif-15995875640514955845

[red berry]

my tb proc rate has felt anemic today

[brittle crow]

does this also apply to loomithar ball

should i just go st spec and zug boss

[wispy fog]

Absolutely that ball is for ranged and ranged only and maybe a bladestorm if it gets close

[muted locust]

A little help?? The belt is with socket

[undone flower]

decision, decision

[edgy widget]

yes 100%

melee shouldn't really swap on Loomi unless your ranged seriously can't handle the tangle themselves; if melee do swap, it should probably be DH/Ret/WW first, Rogue/War last

[fickle cedar]

tickling ballsack

[edgy widget]

sack is good, it's on par with Arcanocore

[fickle cedar]

might get arcano myth today in raid too, I suppose having both is great, ill sim to double check

[empty cape]

1 myth slot is all i Need

[muted locust]

GZ

[modest condor]

weapon transmog i think http://puu.sh/KzLOH/d5fc3bcc7e.png

[pulsar quest]

bro

double belt drop on every boss so far of reclear

LMAO

[earnest canyon]

it's a sign

[pulsar quest]

my ilvl feels so inflated

imn 706 but i sim 5m

feel like i cant do shit for damage

[woven valley]

i got the mythic melted faceplate....heavy haste low mastery SADGE but it was a big upgrade

i meant heavy vers

i cant type

[muted locust]

I guess helmet or chest piece, right??

[edgy widget]

verse is good for Fury

[woven valley]

oh i know i had to argue with loot council cause they wanted to give it away as catalyst lol

i was like NAH warrior needs

[edgy widget]

I got a haste/mastery hat in vault today, not amazing, but it also had speed

[woven valley]

gotta go fast. i got speed tier pants out of vault

[edgy widget]

sitting at 121% base movespeed now

[woven valley]

i can feel the 7 percent speed

[rain cloud]

is the astral antenna still good? I have the myth in the vault but the simulations tell me that it doesn't improve me

[sullen dove]

it should

[storm rune]

I still can't replace my veteran one yet

[quiet breach]

ive gotten 2 of these comments in the last few dungeons ive done, we love ego stroking

[sullen dove]

w

[slow wraith]

Roar or spear for M+ MT? I like more roar because it's simple but if the dmg difference is big enough....

[quiet breach]

i like spear cuz u have to think to use it

but do whatever u like

[sullen dove]

idk what "amount of dmg" in a spear roughly equates a roar

[restive fiber]

so sad

[sullen dove]

like u should pretty easily be able to fit 2 tbs in there minimum

maybe 3 if u prehold a tb going into ava

its if u get a lucky proc in first 2 tbs and reset that i imagine its def way more valuable

[quiet breach]

yo im curious, what happens if you spear, then a mob goes in range of it, or the void emmisary spawns in it? does the spear do damage to it?

[sullen dove]

dont think so

[slow wraith]

true this

[sullen dove]

mobs have to be hit by initial spear or they arent subject to its dot/25% cdam (the part that matters)

also makes it a lil more cringe than roar

way smaller aoe size

[slow wraith]

this is what I don't like about it 🙁

[earnest canyon]

what was ur overall dps

[quiet breach]

it was like 5.3M I think? in streets

next guy was 3.7

[earnest canyon]

oh nice!

[edgy widget]

Roar is much easier, Spear is very slightly better under ideal conditions

[frosty scroll]

a 723 arcanocore is simming higher on st than a 723 wep

[hardy wadi]

i got the gambit trinket.. in m+ and raid should i ask people if they have haste or mastery highest secondary and then use it on them or how should i use it correctly?

[quiet breach]

if I want roar in thane m+ page I drop the 3 spear talents and take the 3 roar talents?

[edgy widget]

yep

Thane doesn't care about Cruel Strikes; even as Slayer, the Roar nodes are generally better in heavy multitarget

[quiet breach]

so if I do that, do I use roar even in ST since we have the talents that buff roar?

[olive wraith]

I imagine roar is better than rb

Since it also buffs cshb

[slow wraith]

thane prio between ragin and BT is full BT? the inverse of S1?

[summer quail]

you imagine roar is better than the godbutton that is rb? that button does everything

[wicked turret]

Heya. Can anyone help me out? I'm trying to keep track of my abilities and I would like to have a opacity setting changed on my action bars. Does anyone know a addon for that, if there is one for that.

[earnest canyon]

Is there an easy way to pick only 2 items from GV in raidbots, and then max them both? I dont have the crests, and even changing it manually makes no difference

[olive wraith]

For thane?

[summer quail]

for thane oh i cannot read, then ya prob better

[olive wraith]

Oh I wouldn’t dare try to suggest roar is better than slayer rb

[summer quail]

ye xD. slayer rb is something else

[edgy widget]

no, you just use it in multitarget, but you generally have a lot of that in M+

[slow wraith]

do we overcap fury over anything? apart from 2 charges of TB?

[quiet breach]

overcap fury? wym

[edgy widget]

Roar isn't actually far behind RB, it's just better used to fill the rotation when you would have to BT or WW due to running out of charges - minimizing weak buttons

[olive wraith]

We end up over capping rage yes

[brittle crow]

i discovered just today that thane bt does more damage than raging blow

[slow wraith]

It seems I explained myself so bad, sorry, when we overcap, do we have prio of anything over rampage?

[brittle crow]

depends on the build

but yes

often

[olive wraith]

Tb, bt

[slow wraith]

thane in m+

[olive wraith]

Since you mentioned thane earlier

[quiet breach]

if i set my macro up like this, will it use fleeting only if i have it and if not it will use regular tempered potion?

[slow wraith]

ty ^^

[olive wraith]

I think bt/ramp are pretty close

[slow wraith]

just got the 4 pieces and i quite like it for both slayer and thane, having way more TB is fun

[olive wraith]

Also this is assuming you’re already enraged

Enraged>>>>>anything

[fringe vale]

why is charge on the same macro than ur burst

[slow wraith]

ofc, if you don't hit that rampage when you are not enraged it's just trolling

[olive wraith]

Just checking. We get all levels of players here so wanted to be clear

[slow wraith]

I understand haha

I'll practice this, since I have internalized full RB until crit BT prio

[olive wraith]

The biggest change for me was the TB resets

It was awkward at first waiting for it to either reset or not

[fringe vale]

you should have enought time tho

[earnest canyon]

this is driving me nuts, there must be a way to sim this.....
I want to take a GV item (tier legs), max it to 723 and have the sim catalyse it
Then take another GV item (trinket), max it to 723....
then compare which is the bigger upgrade...but it just compares the legs raw, so I lose my tier bonus

[edgy widget]

you don't really need to

there's no harm in sending that GCD

[olive wraith]

Good to know

[edgy widget]

maybe if the targets are just about to die and you wanna eke out that final hit and don't think they'll live long enough for 2 GCDs

but in most cases you'd just save it for the next pack

[quiet breach]

because when you pull you want to pop everythning at the same time

[olive wraith]

Gotta pad

[brittle crow]

you can also cheat by pressing blast, then plinking blast into bt

if you dont mind artificially inflating ur apm

[fringe vale]

not really it depends, but normally u press un cds when u land on top of the bopss witch charge or about to

ure losing like 1s of avatar

maybe more if the boss moves awkwardly

[quiet breach]

you are supposed to charge after u pop cds iirc so you can rampage first global

[fringe vale]

u pop cds mid charge

[quiet breach]

because reck doubles ur rage gen

[fringe vale]

not before

[quiet breach]

yeah and you wont get double rage from your charge

if you pop it before reck

and ava

and then you wont be able to rampage first global

[olive wraith]

You def pop rek before charge

[fringe vale]

reck yes but not ava

[edgy widget]

you can also Avatar before Charge

there's no inherent benefit to using it after

[fringe vale]

its the same as using it during charge

[edgy widget]

at the cost of an extra keypress

[olive wraith]

Optimizing is great and all. But at the end of it how much would you actually lose by macroing it

[fringe vale]

i guess is up to each

[olive wraith]

1gcd without avatar? So what maybe 1mil damage

[fringe vale]

at this point

[quiet breach]

btw i waited the 10 mins and tested it, yes if you put /use fleeting tempered potion on top of /use tempered potion it will prio fleeting and then use the regular if you have no fleeting

[olive wraith]

I’m not getting pink parses I personally don’t care that much

[quiet breach]

i just got 2 pinks tonight, while using this macro so

[edgy widget]

its not even a GCD

[quiet breach]

i dont think it even makes that much of a difference

[fickle cedar]

Personally I like having reck and ava separate but thats just old habits

[edgy widget]

I have Reck and Avatar macrod together and I still get rank 1's so

[olive wraith]

[quiet breach]

this discussion is next level degen min maxing

i feel like the extra keypress would cause enough mistakmes that you would always lose more dps overall over the course of like 100 pulls

[olive wraith]

I basically only do keys so this scenario is even more of a minute increase for me

[quiet breach]

then if you just had it macroed together

[edgy widget]

people tend to forget that simplification can also be a DPS increase

[slow wraith]

last question from me, for thane, powerful enrage or frenzied is more for what's more confortable to you? or the difference is big?

[quiet breach]

humans arent robots

[olive wraith]

I think both are relatively close. But powerful is better

[quiet breach]

for me frenzied sims higher but ive changed some pieces since

and id have to check again

but unless powerful is significantly ahead i prefer frenzied cuz running fast = dps increase

[slow wraith]

I baked ironfur with all other skills for my bear, the key where I have it appreciates it even if it's not optimal

[dense fulcrum]

https://prnt.sc/c4KavjzZ67Hl i guess hc boots are a no brainer right? (myth neck or that "sac" trinket but i think is for st as other choose)

[earnest canyon]

100% true and I certainly dont forget that....id take like a 3% loss to not deal with gimmicky stuff like channeling trinkets or "weird" talents....especially if its less fun too

[quiet breach]

myth sac trinket is pretty fking good iirc

id have to think and do sims to decide tho

[dense fulcrum]

i have it hc tho

[edgy widget]

frenzy/powerful can swap a little with your stats, but powerful is usually a bit better in multitarget, while frenzied is a bit better in single target

This is usually something I would leave up to personal preference though

[olive wraith]

I wonder if all this haste stacking from slayer is giving favor to frenzied

[slow wraith]

going to go frenzied since I'm used to having high haste and I love it I think

just tested powerful and I felt... slow

[olive wraith]

Swapping from slayer to thane for me does feel a bit slower

[slow wraith]

Thanks a lot @edgy widget you are a treasure

[edgy widget]

That was for Thane btw, I find Slayer tends to value Frenzy a little more in even in multitarget, just due to hunting for more reap and execute procs

[olive wraith]

Gotta go fast

[slow wraith]

I need to test slayer on multi those reap procs should be delicious

[olive wraith]

Nah it’s still less overall compared to thane

[brittle crow]

you gotta pop cds before you charge

because u press idol mid-charge

[olive wraith]

You swap to slayer if you wanna do prio

[slow wraith]

yeah, shame I loved the S1 fury, until blizz said no no boy, go down

[forest ginkgo]

It is so difficult choosing between a ticking sack of terror for ST or a cursed stone idol for m+ and AoE

Both myth track in vault

[edgy widget]

although you'd think Thane would benefit more from haste to Bloodthirst and gamble more TBlast procs, the resets + Avatar burst go well with Powerful Enrage

[olive wraith]

We can’t have burst

[edgy widget]

if you raid, Arcanocore is practically equal to Sack and relatively easy to get

[dense fulcrum]

i did a quick sim (missed 2 set too so i've put that together too) that's the damage i gain, but seems that my myth eradicore and champion scream outsim sac on st https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wq5Fp8zeqGKyiNZkfsABud

(without hc cantrip boots)

[slow wraith]

Sadly I don't do that high of a content anymore, so prio for me would be what feels best, and frenzied feels amazing with thane even if it has less damage

[edgy widget]

I mean that's fair; I very much think that this is an area where comfort and preference matters more than strict optimization

[slow wraith]

agreed, yup

[forest ginkgo]

Yeah maybe its more value in taking cursed stone idol for aoe fights and m+

Was having such a hard time choosing Kekw

[edgy widget]

yeah Arcanocore is slightly better than Ticking Sack, the Sack does more direct damage but Arcanocore has better stats

[azure hill]

Is Pacemaker worth taking? I alrdy have sac and idol for M* on hero

[woven valley]

Plus arcano summons a robot

Bis on that alone

[edgy widget]

I upped my Screams to 710, it's a really good trinket that I prob won't replace for awhile (wating list on Antenna is way too long lol)

[forest ginkgo]

Yeah same, felt good to get it last raid

But so many classes want antenna so im probably just gonna aim to try and get arcanocore

[molten wing]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uZqQwRKXqVPHud2h9RFFPd mm between the normal Antenna or the Mythic tier

i guess i should go for the tier ?

[dense fulcrum]

i have it champion and its doing the job for now, outsimming all my other hc or myth trinket ahah

st wise

[forest ginkgo]

It pains me to take stone idol because of the damn cast time

[edgy widget]

I wouldn't prio a normal trinket from vault; even if it performs similarly or better, you're going to replace it sooner or later, so it's a less efficient choice

[dense fulcrum]

u get used to it pretty soon to idol...with arms warrior is piss easy to use dont even need to braindmg urself, with fury just use it midcharge in openes

@forest ginkgo

[forest ginkgo]

I mean ik how to use it since i got the hero track version

Its just a pain still xD

Any minor cast time for a trinket makes me want it infinitely less

[dense fulcrum]

ye but its pgood unfort

[molten wing]

yeah good call , i'll just pick the Myth track shoulder tier

and hope rng can bless me with some decent trinkets

[bold bear]

got a r1 mythic loom (although its a reset day rank 1 xd)

[edgy widget]

I got R1 Plexus

if EU beats we

[bold bear]

real

[earnest canyon]

EU? More like EEEEEwwwwww

[sinful glen]

Signet or weap?

[fickle cedar]

weapon

[pseudo cedar]

always weapon

[sinful glen]

Thx, signet simmed +11K dps but didnt feel right

but the 2min cd not meshing
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rFn3ofm5tLfGGA6H5JiNtW

+21K on ST

[zinc python]

just double checking cause i know they changed the trinkets, is screams still our BiS?

[slow wraith]

where is the point when you have to say, ok that's way to much mastery? 60%?

[young swan]

just follow the silly robot

[sullen dove]

🤖

[sullen dove]

[young swan]

nice

[sullen dove]

k so is it wise to mickey mouse slot machine thane on soulbinder

or ol reliable

[young swan]

idk i think its bad

[smoky vale]

why do i have them ignored

[sullen dove]

only 29% thane

:/

[slim coral]

Congrats bud!

Get mogged tho

[young swan]

maybe its cause i trolled

[sullen dove]

wrong boss

[smoky vale]

swordish washed

[sullen dove]

im clapping that when i get there btw

[slim coral]

what boss did you go it on

btw

[sullen dove]

29 overall on plexus

[young swan]

shouldve had a 4.9m frac kill but i got los'd somehow and my IV didnt go off

love that

[sullen dove]

[warm umbra]

Is anger management bad on soulbinder or nah

[young swan]

ended at 4.6m instead

[young swan]

RA isnt a real talent

[sullen dove]

uh... thing unequivocally thats the only talent to take no

more bladestorm

/ravager if youre strange

[slim coral]

hell yeah I got 8th overall on fract

now we're on salad king

[warm umbra]

I see r1 go big boom with the “bad talent”

On sb

[sullen dove]

overall means all specs

[slim coral]

ranks are just a meme anyways

[slim coral]

I'm aware bud

[warm umbra]

Facts

[sullen dove]

rn ur 13th warrior on fract

[slim coral]

yeah well I was 8th when I got the kill

so it counts

[sullen dove]

yea but dats between fury

[plucky bone]

Hey guys, I need super help, I'm rubbish at raid.

[sullen dove]

im talm bout 29 vs all classeso n plex

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/rubbish-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-trash-you-suck-gif-5495325

[sullen dove]

big fan

[slim coral]

I died on plex

today

[sullen dove]

[slim coral]

cuase I lept into 2 swirlies lmao

[sullen dove]

[plucky bone]

Is there a video guide or someone who can explain it to me?

[warm umbra]

Bro watch critcake POV

Mythic kills

[sullen dove]

yea can be helpful to watch gamers stream

[young swan]

you should try being more specifica about what you need help with but critcake uploads his vods for mythic kills i think

[sullen dove]

or a couple youtube video makers too

can gander at some critcake vids maybe madox and i think oxxy do stuff like that

need bazeface vods to study

[unreal onyx]

Roidstack pov

[warm umbra]

He usually explains what he does and why, secret spell reflect tech and more

[slim coral]

Yes I have a warrior guide out for fury

[slim coral]

they're on my twitch bud

what boss you want

[sullen dove]

xalatath

[slim coral]

also on my youtube

[plucky bone]

Thank you very much, I also speak Spanish.

all bosses

[warm umbra]

Is there any boss where you actually don’t full send cds on pull?

I remember ovinax only in s1

[sullen dove]

yea dont think any like that matters here

[warm wharf]

how many weeks til we max out gilded crest upgrades?

[gusty pagoda]

have the BiS trinkets changed since the nerf i can't find any updated sims atm

[sullen dove]

75 crests on 14 myth track items is 1050 crests / 90 is 11.66 weeks 😄

reduced by myth raid items dropping at higher track

and maybe -15*14 if u just count 720 for presumable harbinger of gilded achieve

[unreal onyx]

• turbo boost

[olive wraith]

They usually uncap crests at around .5 I think right

[unreal onyx]

I am dumb and thought this week is full spark and bought gilded crafting crest

[warm wharf]

just trying to decide between these two, shoulders would save me 1 gilded upgrade but helm has speed, relatively same dps increase between them

[unreal onyx]

-60 crests

[olive wraith]

Long term shoulders are better

[barren sedge]

I have 704 Signet and 684 pacemaker equipped. Sim says pacemaker. Is stone idol the better long term play for combined raid and mythic plus?

[unreal onyx]

Helm is offpiece for tset in theory

[warm umbra]

Stone idol

No?

[warm wharf]

yeah good luck getting a myth helm with mastery haste or mastery vers

[unreal onyx]

Just have enough gold

[warm wharf]

you can't buy myth pieces

gold can't fix this one chief

[snow edge]

M is BoP

[slim coral]

yeah but myth trakc drops at 714 in raid now

depending on the bosses you've killed

in vault

[unreal onyx]

You will be able to buy them once they make em boe

[warm umbra]

Dinars

[unreal onyx]

Just like the last 2 seasons

[warm umbra]

In 20 weeks

[warm wharf]

in 20 weeks doesn't help me out atm tho

plus we'd be full myth by then

[hardy vault]

for second trinket, ara (710) or screams (704) ? Since we can't sims screams trinket, i prefer to ask

[olive wraith]

Then do what you want?

[unreal onyx]

I mean, if it's the same dps then it doesnt matter anyway

[warm crag]

Wdym we cant sim screams

[smoky vale]

maybe the death effect they mean

[hardy vault]

yeah exactlic

exactly*

[radiant plank]

the death effect isnt that massive

[warm crag]

Id just not equip that trinket in aoe in general

[radiant plank]

you can just slam on some 1% or so from feely crafting

for screams for aoe

[radiant plank]

Wh ydid you curse me with this dogshit vault

[smoky vale]

w neck

[radiant plank]

L neck

at 623 its .3% upgrade over my HC soulbinder neck

[smoky vale]

w

[sullen dove]

fuck

[quiet breach]

myth pacemaker isn't terrible

[warm crag]

W vault if you dont like good gear

[smoky vale]

bro just wanted 1 thing

2h

[sullen dove]

why would i use avatar on a random 2set of adds instead of 2nd big add set...

im so chungus stupid man...

thought i'd be ethical and go "oh if i use my cds now ill get another set later thats better!" then regretted it .3 seconds after dropping spear

fuck ethicality

pretty decent tblast rng too i think

couldve really blasted

[unreal onyx]

Bc no 4x m+ slots

[radiant plank]

it is when you are next in line for a mythic antenna

i still took it tho cuz I got nothing to socket either

[sullen dove]

W disc replacement tho

[white relic]

this is a tough one.

[indigo arch]

Cursed idol, id say

Well, for m+

Sac may as well be interchangeable with any of the "good" passive

[unreal onyx]

Cast time trinket oof

[digital crown]

Why do u want to stavk raging blow after bladestorm spevifically?

[olive wraith]

Slayer talent

Increases next rampage after bs by 50%

[digital crown]

Ahh thanks boss

[cerulean badger]

Is raidbots updated, can a normal Antenna really be better than myth Signet 💀

[sullen dove]

signet kinda sucks so maybe

st at least

[hardy vault]

Only 0.1% for screams instead of ara

How much dps is death effect ?

[dense fulcrum]

raidtbot armoury still broken after the "fix" only for me?

[elder epoch]

Got the boots from first boss yesterday so they had to drop in vault as well and again no weapon ggwp.

Gonna be Shoulders for cata but after hm taza run

[dense fulcrum]

i would get that idol myth

[elder epoch]

Nah thats trolling

[dense fulcrum]

why trolling

u can get tier piece when u want later in the season but myth trinket, specially good ones or bis imo is not a skippable item

unless ur planning to use dinars in 2 months

[elder epoch]

Idol is shit on st

[unreal onyx]

Cast time trinkets are instantly 50% less good than their sims worth to me

[turbid bay]

Yeah they feel so ass to use

[dense fulcrum]

idk on details its deplayed as good dmg % wise even if it feels ass to use

[turbid bay]

Oh its good for sure in aoe

[dense fulcrum]

ah well if u dont raid...but its good on demon hunters boss and probably on araz if u play thane

even if u dont i guess (?)

[turbid bay]

Soul binder its probs decent as well

[edgy widget]

there are some general tips and talent build suggestions in the #dps-faq guides (raid pages), but if you want like... super specific "what do I do in this encounter" then I'd recommend watching a vod

most of success in raid comes down to figuring out how to time your CDs while also minimizing downtime (time spent not hitting something)

[elder epoch]

I do raid but got benched cuz i was on vacation first week and a halft of m+/raid release

Booked in december last year and got fucked in the ass by release time

[silent gazelle]

stupid antennae

screams is cooler

[dim lynx]

what's the rule of thumb? always got with Myth track? I got 4 set, but it's champion. and I do have Arakara on HC track.

[turbid bay]

Trinkets are usually high priority, because of how rare they are

Sac brood be looking juicy

[winged oracle]

is the jastor diamond really just goated, I can't seem to find anything to replace it based off sims

[turbid bay]

It is pretty goated and should beat all ilvl 704 rings

However it is bugged

[winged oracle]

bugged?

[turbid bay]

Yep it will occassionally bug out. Swap with another ring and re-equip

[winged oracle]

I got signet of the false accuser, and whispers of karesh hero track, and they just dont beat it out

[white relic]

we are progging araz next, so i am tempted to take idol just for that fight. but i also got mythic hands in vault and i only have champ track on me. sacbrood. i don't know, since i have arcanocore on mythic and scream on champion.

[turbid bay]

There is a weak aura that notifies when jastor is bugged

Depends on what your group needs? If araz needs more single target other trinkets will better help you do more boss dmg

Sometimes you dont need the extra aoe dmg. Will look nice for logs tho

[gusty compass]

When are we removing Jastor Diamond? Rings are still simming lower than it...

[shadow flame]

hmm interesting

[turbid bay]

Im in the same boat have almost every ring none beat jastor

[gusty compass]

How is Jastor bugged?

[turbid bay]

The passive sometimes bugs out and wont work

Have a look at your logs

Your buff uptime on certain fights will be 0

[gusty compass]

Should we just change it to another ring?

[olive wraith]

wtf is sub

lmao

[gusty compass]

Because it still out sims my rings haha

[turbid bay]

There is a addon that notifies you when its bugged

Just swap it with a ring and swap it back

Or replace it and take the small dps loss

[warm crag]

Do you know if it actually knows or just fires a text every ready check

[turbid bay]

Mine doesnt fire every ready check

Mayb 25% of the time

[winged oracle]

is jastor buff called "I did that!"?

[turbid bay]

Yep

Pretty sure

[winged oracle]

fuck me its been bugged all night

[turbid bay]

Indie devs wcyd

[gusty compass]

top 20 fury, only 4 are still playing with Jastor according to raider.io

hm

[winged oracle]

thats why I was curious if it was simming wonky

[warm crag]

It sims correctly you just have to do shenanigans to have it work consistently

Idk i dropped mine for a hc ring at a 15k loss just to not deal with it

[winged oracle]

if I max upgrade a ring to 6/6 hero, can I upgrade my 2nd hero ring to 6/6 with just valor?

[olive wraith]

Think you need 2 rings

It’s not like weps

[warm crag]

Ye you need two rings

[winged oracle]

shiiii

[edgy widget]

@sullen dove you pos

never sharing my secret strats in here again!

[olive wraith]

Faster kill time is cheating

Demand a redo

[edgy widget]

I mean that was the real issue with my group, 6 people ate shit in the first 2m

[narrow fossil]

No tuning patch, how lazy can be blizz. They only put effort on 25$ mounts

[edgy widget]

like come the fuck on lol

[olive wraith]

That healer

[turbid bay]

Tf is atomize

[olive wraith]

Lmao

[edgy widget]

(tbf I got atomized the first week too, my raid is terrible about booping people forward into the wall)

[olive wraith]

It’s a 1 shot I think it’s the wall

[turbid bay]

Oh shit wtf

Haha

[narrow fossil]

They didnt bind extra button i guess

[turbid bay]

That is something

[edgy widget]

it's like 30m, which I guess is techincally survivable by tanks, but not likely for anyone else

[edgy widget]

that's the static wall, the moving one isn't nearly as deadly

[olive wraith]

We could probably tank it no?

If we popped everything

[turbid bay]

Pop everything

[edgy widget]

you can tank the moving wall; the static one... maybe, but I wouldn't recommend it lol

[olive wraith]

Oh ya for sure

[turbid bay]

Its the strat to spin through loomithar walls

[edgy widget]

loomi walls will also fuck you up on M

[turbid bay]

My group dies to the loomi walls not the plexus ones

[edgy widget]

its livable w/ CDs, but I wouldn't make a habit out of it

[turbid bay]

I tried to double bladestorm tangles with defensives

Works mostly

Until they are on cd and i die

[edgy widget]

but really I'm just gonna bag on @sullen dove for using my skip strat 2 hours after I posted it in here and taking my rank!

[turbid bay]

Is that void elf things?

[edgy widget]

na just warrior things

[brittle crow]

we're not on m plexus yet so i cant steal his rank 1

rip

[turbid bay]

Im gonna have to find this skip for science

[edgy widget]

well considering I just told you where, it shouldn't be that hard

[sullen dove]

I mean it was talked about last week but too afraid to try worried u die

but then kinda don’t

so

[sinful glen]

wait that's a thing?

[sullen dove]

don’t enjoy last intermission think used pot and stone but otherwise payphoning

[turbid bay]

Yeah bladestorm prevents you from getting rooted

[sinful glen]

You should start an RSS feed, i'd sub 😛

[turbid bay]

I wouldnt recommend tho its cursed af

[edgy widget]

I have one, it's called #updates-midnight

[edgy widget]

as stated, bladestorm prevents the root/stun/whatever but you still take a lot of damage - you should not be trying to path through the walls

just hit the boss and move through the tangle gap with everyone else

[sinful glen]

touché 😂

noted

[warm umbra]

You can’t bs your way out of the last boss ara kara right?

[edgy widget]

out of what, exactly, the pull?

[warm umbra]

Yes

[turbid bay]

Just leap

[sullen dove]

leap it

[edgy widget]

the pull will kill you if you stay in, whether you're bladestorming or not

[sinful glen]

i leap that

[shell jackal]

what's our tier off-set piece again? is it helm?

[sinful glen]

you even have a WA for it, just dont get pulled into a pool

[shell jackal]

leaping the pull is the only way i feel anything anymore

[edgy widget]

you have a couple options

• leap right after the cast goes off to negate the pull, this gets you a couple extra seconds of uptime - this is very risky because if you're too close or too late you'll die
• leap right before the cast goes off and land in a puddle - you'll still get uptime but don't run the split second risk of death

you really shouldn't be losing uptime due to puddles, it should only be about a second of downtime between leap -> interrupt -> charge back

[surreal token]

@edgy widget i ran slayer build for forgeweaver reclear tonight, it's kinda eh

[native wadi]

fellow warrs

need help

[surreal token]

only thing it's good at is getting collector down fast

[shell jackal]

i always turn around and then leap as soon as i see my character model get ''lifted'' off of the ground

[sinful glen]

trink

[surreal token]

trinket

[native wadi]

both egg and shoulders are same dps upgrade

[brittle crow]

guys should i commit to the warrior main bit
should i buy a honda grom

just because its called the grom

[edgy widget]

welcome to Warriors in The War Within

[native wadi]

we already kill worm

[surreal token]

egg is way more rare

[sinful glen]

go for trink, you cant cata a trink

[native wadi]

so i could get antena

[snow edge]

Egg egg egg

[sinful glen]

^

[native wadi]

i have arcano core and egg rn

[edgy widget]

whatever you think you either won't replace easily, or won't have as much access to later

[native wadi]

problem is egg is not bis

so im having doubts

[surreal token]

unless ur gonna kill mythic dimensius soon

it's the best u can get aside from antenna

[edgy widget]

eh, there are a few M trinkets that can take the place of H screams

[native wadi]

its antena and arcanocore

thats the problem

[surreal token]

oh

[native wadi]

i already have a myth arcanocore

[surreal token]

both mythic?

up to u then ig

[native wadi]

we are 4/8 myth

so shoulder arent that far either

[sinful glen]

how likely is it that you will go 8/8?

[surreal token]

yeah i have shoulders in vault that i'm also not taking

[native wadi]

so basically where the fuck is my myth weap

[surreal token]

i have a mythic pacemaker in vault rn

and legs

i'm waiting til fractilus kill to see if legs drop

but same thing archi said

[native wadi]

Also my shoulders are 704 but trinkets are 723 and 710 so no free upgrades from vault

[shell jackal]

ive got h track pacemaker and arcanocore, myth sack and champ track dimensussy trinket

[surreal token]

whatever u have more chances at

[shell jackal]

but apparently normal screams is better than H arcanocore

[fallen tinsel]

With loot prio do you still set it to Arms when you are playing Fury? I remember that being a thing long ago

[wheat lantern]

yes

one guy got cooked on vault with 3 one handers earlier

[heavy dock]

Yikes xD

[wheat lantern]

and one was myth wep , big yikes

[heavy dock]

Go prot at that point

[wheat lantern]

basically

[surreal token]

did u rly get a 707 1h weap

wow

[wheat lantern]

me no , some other dood

[warm umbra]

Always set arms lootspec

[surreal token]

bro i'd crash out if i did some shit like that

[warm umbra]

Why is 1h even in the pool as fury

[wheat lantern]

single minded fury

memes

[undone flower]

I hope he crafted 2 hand BEFORE upgrade his 1 hand

Would delete my char on this double L

[quartz adder]

guys why is bloodthirst a part of the multi-target rotation but not single target on icy veins (mountain thane for M+)? unless i'm seeing it wrong

[digital arrow]

^cause it procs tb

[warm umbra]

Proccs

Blast

[smoky vale]

you still press rb in st not in aoe

[wheat lantern]

BT your heart out forever

[quartz adder]

ok makes sense it procs blast, but why don't i see it in ST?

[warm umbra]

Isnt the bt still worth it for the proccs and tier set in ST?

[brittle crow]

yes u prio it

[quartz adder]

oh right, i didn't have the 2pc checkbox selected. fair enough

thanks

[warm umbra]

I do the same rotation in aoe and st pretty much except i dont use clap for the meat cleaver and spend a few more raging blows than i normally would have

But i might be wrong

[alpine steppe]

Is Cursed Stone Idol good in keys?

[warm umbra]

Yes

[brittle crow]

its the best for keys

[alpine steppe]

All I got is a signet and yeah

signet 🙁

[fast siren]

Prepping a DPS offspec for raid so that I can flex. Want to ideally just have 1 build ready for all raid bosses.

Mountain Thane or Slayer? Seems Slayer for ST and MT for AOE?

[brittle crow]

slayer for all except hunters

[warm wharf]

Should I swap my 681 crafted bracers with banding for 710 socketed bracers until i can craft next week?

[brittle crow]

aoe or st build as necessary

[warm umbra]

Slayer is good in m+

just lower overall

Good boss dmg

[warm umbra]

I would sim and swap accordingly

I think most ive seen kept their crafted bracers

[warm wharf]

sim says +12k

[warm umbra]

I didn’t

[heavy dock]

uhh man i managed to get the worst neck possible, but ig the trinket isnt that bad? altho i could take the helmet and catalyst my chest piece

[warm umbra]

Helm

[wheat lantern]

tier helm is the odd one out this season by the looks of it

rest 4pc

[sudden tusk]

that helm is probably irreplacable outside a perfect statted mythic boe

[bronze tartan]

Should I take peacemaker or chest and transform it into Setpeice?

[warm umbra]

Neck

[fast siren]

Can I macro recklessness and Avatar together?

[warm umbra]

Is huge too

Chest u get from 1st boss

[wheat lantern]

yes you can

recklessness first so you get extra rage while charge

[warm umbra]

Id take the neck or pacemaker

[hardy vault]

what is you secret wtf ? just hit 4,1m last week, no way i can do more +600k

[edgy widget]

It ain’t a secret lol, scroll up

[bronze tartan]

ok ty

[brittle crow]

are u literally just ignoring adds and bumrushing the boss

(i dont know the fight on mythic)

[slim coral]

quit hidding the secret strats bro

[wheat lantern]

hes no longer the strat holder , lets ask the other #1 warrior

[heavy dock]

does it have adds on mythic?

[smoky vale]

bro just lept

yes

[lapis shadow]

2 adds

[fast siren]

If I am dual-wielding 1h, do I take single-minded fury always? Any build changes? It looks like x2 2h is BIS?

[lapis shadow]

Always dual wield 2h

[wheat lantern]

never single minded fury

[brittle crow]

if ur dual wielding 1h you've made questionable decisions

[heavy dock]

[wheat lantern]

[fast siren]

I am prot main, so just picked up another myth 1h

[wheat lantern]

no

[lapis shadow]

Then that 1h is for prot

Fury always double 2hs

[fast siren]

No? You can play 2x 1h? I guess its lower SIM based on your responses

[heavy dock]

whats the chance double 720 1 handers out dpses 2 700 2 handers

[lapis shadow]

I can also play without any weapons

Point being that it's such a massive difference in dps

Difference in stats, stamina, DPS, everything

[fast siren]

That's fine. That's not the same as "you can't play 2x 1h", there's literally a talent to "try" to balance it.

I either have a veteran 2h or myth 2x 1h , so I guess myth is the correct choice, just trying to get something as good as possible

Not trying to min max

[wheat lantern]

good luck with groups

stick to delve content

the day i see a fury warrior with 2 1 handers is the day i report it to blizz, i have not seen it yet thank god

[fast siren]

I'm good, thanks, just looking to make a nice offspec

[warm umbra]

Is this ragebait

[lapis shadow]

Did you do that as prot or double 1h fury

[wheat lantern]

wow ! crazy achieve !

[lapis shadow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/914508501697576990/1314542204722741248/caption.gif

[heavy dock]

guys how puggable are the first 2-3 bosses on mythic

[warm umbra]

Imo soulbinder might be easier than first boss

[olive wraith]

It’s like a 10% loss

[wheat lantern]

just depends on the morons sleeping at the keyboard or if you got 2 1 hander fury warriors in the group

[olive wraith]

If that doesn’t matter to you then you’re gucci

[warm umbra]

First boss has alot more you can fuck up than soulbinder but very puggable

[fast siren]

Thanks, that's fine for now until I get 2h weapons. Simming now, but I guess I play single-minded fury for this then and drop a point from "Deft Experience" (Mastery)?

[olive wraith]

For slayer? Ya probably

[fast siren]

Thanks 🙂

[heavy dock]

ig the fatass moth boss isnt too puggable right

[wheat lantern]

Heard pretty easy

[lapis shadow]

All depends on group you get

[wheat lantern]

give it a couple more weeks and the first 3 will drop and on farm

[heavy dock]

its cooked, sim recommends me the haste crit neck

i have a 670 neck probably thats why lol

cant get one to drop

[wheat lantern]

if its dungeon slice , i wouldnt sim it that way

[heavy dock]

its 5 targets

i mostly do m+ so

figured id sim for aoe

[wheat lantern]

boss dmg is also great tho

[heavy dock]

i mean theres 0% chance helmet will sim highest

cuz my gear is fked

still

i was thinking to pick up that trinket too

doesnt seem too bad at 723 compared to 710 trinkets i can get

currently using a goddamn LFR first boss trink lol

[chilly sapphire]

Monk's mail... isn't boes in mythic supposed to be warbound or smth?

[slim pollen]

Nah, soulbound with 4 hour trade window, untill they flip the switch and make them actuall boe later on (but only fresh drops as far as I'm aware)

[chilly sapphire]

So my monk got lucky, but it was too early.

so now it's just highlvl vendor loot.

[chrome plover]

first 2 is fine, i pugged it last week because i was on holiday for guild raids

not sure about loomithar

[proud vessel]

How do we sim for M+?

Now i simmed ST and 5 targets both different results ofcourse

[serene kraken]

i got myth wep last week and myth wep this week, do i take the 2nd one or just use crafted wep?

[chrome plover]

i sim for ST because it's the only thing that's always consistent, you can do short 5t sims with no lust and a variety of other sims that may be relevant for keys

generally simming single target and then using good aoe trinkets like cursed stone idol or pacemaker works well

[chrome plover]

depends what else is in your vault

[serene kraken]

i mean i can just put ascendenace embelish on wrists once i make them

[chrome plover]

no you cant

[heavy dock]

its only wep

[serene kraken]

oh i c

[chrome plover]

you can use the one that gives vers though (or crit)

embellishments are generally pretty unimpactful

[serene kraken]

idk its hard choice

ill screenshot