#fury

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junior gale
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Ik sub absolutely loves skyfury

young swan
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yeah idk why they love it

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but i dabbled in feral in aberrus and remix (xdd)

slim coral
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we need the devs to gut colossus

young swan
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think im gonna do shaman and feral for legion remix

junior gale
young swan
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prob do a warrior too just for good measure

junior gale
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But my tactical nuke demolish

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Owns

olive wraith
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Arms has been suffering these last two weeks leave them alone

junior gale
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I even got a WA to play the cod MW2 tactical nuke inbound when I cast demolish

slim coral
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NO arms needs to die

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before it becomes meta in m+

young swan
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arms needs to die so it can reborn from the ashes

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and rise like a phoenix

junior gale
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Rise

young swan
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fury can do the same plsthnx

junior gale
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Execute spender when for fury

young swan
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i dont even want that

olive wraith
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It’s funny arms gets shot 20% bleeds then proceeds to gain 13% aura

young swan
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it pigeon holes design

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theres a lot more cool things u can do with generator + CD

junior gale
young swan
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ive come around on that a lot recently

olive wraith
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I think it’s also funny fury and arms kinda took turns being playable

junior gale
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I just like switch ups in rotations as the boss progresses. Why I always liked arms. Execute phase starts and your gameplay shifts making you feel excited and ready to kill the boss

olive wraith
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Ye I can see how that would tickle your fancy

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Fury kinda had that with VC

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For a little

young swan
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its just a matter of whether blizz wants to innovate or not

junior gale
young swan
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even some raging blow-esque mechanics on execute

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with like

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EP but for rampage

olive wraith
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I still wishRA wasn’t murdered

young swan
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could be sick for fury

young swan
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but ideally id like it to fill an actual role

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like empowered abilities can be cool but not when they're tied to generators lmfao

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specifically crushing blow

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is a problem

olive wraith
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Ya fair

young swan
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bloodbath is fine cause its limited usage

olive wraith
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I think I just like it being tied to the burst profile

young swan
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agreed

olive wraith
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And AM can be more the sustain

young swan
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i think RA being burst centric is good

junior gale
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Rip RA the switch to every rampage giving you the empowered abilities was goated

young swan
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its just not what RA is supposed to be

junior gale
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Yeah I do believe in the direction they were trying to go down with the RA change

remote bobcat
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bro rampaging as often as possible to get improved raging blow or bloodthirst would be a cool anger management capstone

junior gale
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Reck could use a burst talent option

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Since its competing talent AM wants a flat consistent profile

young swan
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idk why they're so hell-bent on reck being a shit cd

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its so weird

junior gale
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Same with CS and Ava tbh

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Could do so much more with CS

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Plz tie SKS to CS and WB

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Plz plz plz

young swan
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im pretty sure u could do the thing ive been suggesting for ages, adding haste to reck, and you wouldnt even need to change anything about current fury

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and it would just be fine

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cause reck is so shit

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maybe take the aura down a bit but thats nothing important

junior gale
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Remove frenzy and add that haste to reck

formal ravine
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another statstick to it though doesn't seem like a great solution

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If anything that would benefit arms more

young swan
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well thats just an issue with arms stealing fury shit

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not with the cd

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just nuke that torment

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feel like torments have kind of overstayed their welcome a bit

slim coral
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delete arms and make a new spec for warrior

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ez

formal ravine
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yeah they don't know what to do with torments

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So gotta wait 6 months for something remotely interesting

marble pilot
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Yeah make it a 25 yard melee range hybrid.

young swan
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not only that, but they actively infringe on making things cooler elsewhere

junior gale
formal ravine
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the thing is, most major abilities have goten some sort of bloat of effect

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and reck and avatar have not

young swan
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like u cant justify making reck stronger when we get 30 seconds of reck and 30 seconds of avatar from 1 talent

formal ravine
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Yeah we ended up with torments punishing us due to duration

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and we're lacking effects

queen panther
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Frenzy feels so ass to use when u gotta keep swapping targets 😦 hate it here

formal ravine
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@queen panther macros

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swap targets and keep rampaging the main

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unless you need some super absolute swap

smoky vale
queen panther
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Yeah its mainly for raid, having to swap to some bs add that’s in the wrong spot

olive wraith
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7m isn’t super crazy from what I’ve seen

smoky vale
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pretty sure he also had a death

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in cds

slim coral
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delete arms and make it blademaster instead

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game is perma fixed

formal ravine
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@young swan actually now that i think about it, one way would be to bake a version of current RA into titan's torment. Obviously tuned cus we reck so often.

smoky vale
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yeah he died

queen panther
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Imagine giving warriors a mirror image and stealth like blade masters in Warcraft games

slim coral
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I mean blademaster is a warrior tho

queen panther
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True

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Honestly give us back banners

olive wraith
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Imagine they make a 3rd dps warrior and made it int based

coarse nest
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RA was goated

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I want that back a lot

rocky sequoia
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who makes the best fury warrior video guides

chilly fractal
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I want S3 DF back with Mountain Thane

queen panther
chilly fractal
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Give me that, John Blizzard

olive wraith
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Maddox and Oxxy have vids

coarse nest
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RA just felt nice to play

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Very easy to just rotate 3 buttons

olive wraith
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If they made the avatar from rek give tb

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Maybe tune the dmg down

ornate gust
undone flower
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BuT BuILDeR OvER SpEnDeR BAD

olive wraith
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We could be more consistent

coarse nest
olive wraith
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Delete macro

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Embrace buttons

coarse nest
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Nah simplified rotation is BIS

queen panther
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More buttons

chilly fractal
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Apply head to keyboard

rocky sequoia
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fury warrior gets my hand crampin up by the end of a fight sometimes lol

chilly fractal
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And roll head

coarse nest
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Pretending like you prefer to do 5m dps with 12 buttons instead of 3

chilly fractal
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That duck has the right idea

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I could go for a cigarette

olive wraith
rocky sequoia
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my buttons are Q - raging blow, E - blood thirst, F - rampage lol

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R - whirlwind and 1 - Massacre

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who else is the same!

olive wraith
queen panther
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F is execute for me, cuz F this guy

olive wraith
rocky sequoia
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execute idfk

sand hatch
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Hamstring is bound to 1 through 9

rocky sequoia
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i never use hamstring, skill issue

queen panther
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Hamstring is macroed to everything

undone flower
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1 - Condemn

queen panther
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Never missing a hamstring

rocky sequoia
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why did i say massacre was it ever called that

olive wraith
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I use hamstring in gambit

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Ara Kara too actually. First boss

rocky sequoia
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my shift R is bladestorm

coarse nest
queen panther
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I see glowy I press

rocky sequoia
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i put it on 1 because thats how where my hunter kill shot always was lol

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maybe i should put my raging blow on my mb4 button

queen panther
olive wraith
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Sometimes I slayer in gambit cause last boss scares me in pugs

queen panther
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Fair enough

rocky sequoia
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i did a +2 gambit and the group seemed super strong and it was smooth sailing and all friendly with eachother

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3 wipes on dragon and POOF they vanished

olive wraith
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Is the tc slow the same as hamstring though

queen panther
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Since they’re the same they don’t stack

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Wait maybe TC is a little less?

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I can’t remember off the top of my mind

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I just know they don’t stack 😦

worn rain
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TC is 40% iirc

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harmstring 50%

olive wraith
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It’s nice hamstring is only half gcd now

queen panther
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Make a berserker hero tree

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Give prot war glad stance again and turn them into dps

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And fury warrior a viable option to run single minded fury

echo rapids
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Are logs just odd for m+? Did a floodgate 10 last night and all 3 of us were over 7m. Is that high?

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I wouldn’t have thought that was like 97+ parse

warm crag
modest condor
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i mean it's a +10

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it's basically like heroic logs

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you're competing with almost everybody, so if you know what you're doing you're gonna be orange

echo rapids
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Ohhhh is the log % just per key?

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Like +10 has its own parse rank vs +12?

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I’ve never looked into logging m+

queen panther
plush zephyr
coarse nest
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They have both

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You can see overall dps comparison and key level comparison

smoky vale
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TRUE I LOVE DOING +10S

coarse nest
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It’s really not reasonable to compare output though

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You really only use them to view your self between runs

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There’s so many variables otherwise

wicked cloak
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QQ - if your already >115 rage and currently enraged but get a SD Proc (Kaching) you still send the execute right as its high prio? even if it maeks u cap rage.

warm crag
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ye just follow the prio on wowhead

cursive inlet
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Quick question: If you Rampage while not enraged, does Rampage's enrage apply to itself since it is a multiple hit attack? (ie. First hit not enraged, next 3 enraged). Just trying to determine what priority Rampage has at the very end of the enrage timer (ie. How bad is it if enrage falls off if your very next ability is Rampage)

smoky vale
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yes

feral ivy
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just saw a mythic kill of fractillus.. EASY boss but massive dps check and heal check

warm crag
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if your guild did splits or arrives next week you will steamroll it like crazy

feral ivy
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yea was thinking this early HELL YA but starting next and when my guild gets to it it wont it will prob just be a healer check not dps maby

pearl sequoia
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execution check

feral ivy
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the kill i just saw they killed it EXACT same time it enraged

tame bay
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Is this timeline fucked? How are SO many RB's being cast in the first few seconds? Is it just insane haste + BL or something?

warm crag
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idk what website this is but it could be a broken log

pearl sequoia
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2 bladestorms in 4 seconds

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cracked

tame bay
plush zephyr
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I've never actually looked at that on there lol

charred flint
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so any gold makers here

olive wraith
earnest canyon
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Same

olive wraith
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I’ll advertise blacksmith stuff while I lf keys

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But that’s about it

quiet breach
olive wraith
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Definitely swapping to alch next expac though

frank dawn
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wer tuning notes

olive wraith
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Smf buffed 10%

undone flower
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@coarse nest loom died ?

olive wraith
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Of nerfed 10%

frank dawn
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it can technically be a greater than zero dps gain in some situations atm

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need to fix that

coarse nest
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Surely it will die

undone flower
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Okok, we killed it early on my side and started araz, we saw first collectors

coarse nest
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We have 3 hours to kill this boss if it doesn’t die it’s probably just a disband angle right

olive wraith
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Onslaught removed. We have decided to remove onslaught and put additional talent nodes in its place that buffs rb

undone flower
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I have to play spear clueless

bold sundial
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how does new 4set play in thane vs the undermine set? still thunderclap central?

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(have not specced out of prot this season and did not like s2 fury really)

bold sundial
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nice. I have hope

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thx

lapis shadow
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And thunderclap comes more often

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Way

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Way more often

bold sundial
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wait what. more oftne than s2? 🙁

lapis shadow
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Sry I wrote thunderclap I mean thunderblast

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the big boy dmg dealer

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And yes, way more than S2

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Can get B2b 3x

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Make sure to stay enraged tho, it feels a bit clunkier

olive wraith
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Tb has a chance to reset itself basically

bold sundial
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sounds a bit like: if you liked s2, you might like s3 more
but I did not like all the thunderclapping

olive wraith
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That’s kind of thanes thing lol

bold sundial
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ah well. will surely try it out when I have 4, thanks 🙂

olive wraith
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You can play slayer if you prefer

bold sundial
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well in s1 it wasn't that bad

olive wraith
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S1 was only half thane

bold sundial
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but maybe I played mostly slayer ST in raid, now I think about it. damn

olive wraith
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Slayer good in keys this season

bold sundial
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sweet.

echo rapids
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Having to mash the thunderclap key to benefit from the reset is awkward

bold sundial
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guides need a section titled "does it feel good or does it just do good damage?" 😉

olive wraith
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Less overall but more prio/boss damage

olive wraith
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I love playing thane

stray pivot
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Guys, what's the best consumable for us? Whetstones or Algari Oil?

coarse nest
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Intellect

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Helps perform rotation better

stray pivot
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We're warriors, we lack that

olive wraith
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Oil

stray pivot
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So the improvement in Crit the oil provides is better than the improvement in Attack Power the whetstone gives us?

olive wraith
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Oil is better yes

stray pivot
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Okay, great, thanks man

rose swift
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Don't suppose any big brain fury gamers could take a look over my log by any chance?

olive wraith
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Super helpful people over there

rose swift
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Ive posted it, hope someone can help me figure out my smooth brain gaming

dawn oasis
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hey guys... when do we upgrade from DISC belt ?

coarse nest
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When sim is good

open wigeon
tight roost
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Prolly not until u get mythic

dawn oasis
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i have mythic belt from Soulbinder, but not enough crest to fully upgrade it 😄

hot rampart
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Are 1h weps still a part of fury loot table or no?

smoky vale
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yes

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you should loot as arms to never get one unless you want them intentionally

dull vortex
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guys i have sacbrood and pacemaker on hero track, am i even going to use soleahs?

iron holly
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is slayer as competitive as thane in M+?

dull vortex
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ever*

pearl sequoia
dull vortex
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do i sim any specific way to know what trinkets i want as fury in m+? or just normal patchwerk?

iron holly
pearl sequoia
olive wraith
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Thane has higher overalls yes

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Slayer has better prio/boss damage

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So pick which one you need

frosty scroll
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trinket nerfs and buffs on wowhead

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smh my head

olive wraith
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wtf screams buff

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Isn’t it pretty big already

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Soleah change is solid

frosty orchid
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is nice

pearl sequoia
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screams was cranking in ST but i dont the the ondeath wass doing a whole lot

modest condor
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screams getting buffed???

bitter palm
frosty orchid
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Screams of a Forgotten Sky - On-death damage increased by 15%

olive wraith
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Mostly a key qol

frosty orchid
bitter palm
olive wraith
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Don’t know any of those other trinks

modest condor
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i dont think 3% nerf to antenna is enough to push it down from first

frank dawn
olive wraith
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Indirect fury buff ?!

bitter palm
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i will just cope

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and not use it

onyx linden
lean heart
jolly parrot
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Antenna nerf

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Gg

pearl sequoia
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facts, time to play aug evoker

young swan
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not even worth posting about

bitter palm
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so game isnt dead

drowsy heron
slow drift
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Anyone know how to optimally fit cursed stone idol into cooldowns?

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Just pop it before you use sort of deal?

young swan
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use it mid charge

oak peak
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Doesnt it get crit based on mobs around you? So midcharge would cause it to lose a lot of value wouldnt it?

young swan
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it channels for a second

slow drift
oak peak
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Ahh gotcha

slow drift
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but I was wondering if it benefits from avatar/reck?

young swan
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nope

slow drift
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alright

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tyty

oak peak
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Trinkets haven’t benefited from CDs since legion really

chilly fractal
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I want a screams trinket

young swan
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yeah blizz panicked and ruined one of their best choices

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instead of just reining it in slightly

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in classic blizzard fashion

woven valley
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I cackled

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3 percent is nothing

dim lynx
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is arms outperforming fury in m+ atm?

woven valley
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Arms is still worse than fury overall with tier and ilvl

modest condor
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it does more uncapped aoe

woven valley
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That’s true

coarse pond
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is fury actually good at anything?

modest condor
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i think it's bait, but all the top warriors seem to think it's better

woven valley
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I personally think it’s bait as well

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For the average player at least

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Maybe the top can pull out more but I feel like fury just has an easier time pulling damage in all scenarios for a casual player

marble pilot
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Colo arms for max aoe min ST. Thane for balance of the two. and Slayer fury for max ST least aoe.

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At least from what ive seen

modest condor
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that's the general consensus yeah

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i do have to say that the colo arms max aoe thing specifically refers to uncapped aoe

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in dungeons with smaller pulls you'll see thane and colo even out

heavy dock
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yo guys how do i make stone idol feel better, this trinket feels fkin ass to use

woven valley
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Don’t use it :p

limber oar
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Use a different trinket

woven valley
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That’s how I made it feel better

heavy dock
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dont have anything better yet

woven valley
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Pain

limber oar
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Then find one

heavy dock
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im trying xd

limber oar
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You got 2 options reasonable

heavy dock
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do wehave any on use trinkets this phase?

limber oar
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Either deal with cursed idol

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Or find a new one

vale dove
limber oar
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Ehhhh

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Outside of cursed idol not really

vale dove
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guess u can use Idol

olive wraith
vale dove
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but there are others better

olive wraith
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If you want a real answer

limber oar
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Theyre all kinda cheeks for fury

heavy dock
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i have so much crit on my gear its not even funny

limber oar
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They already asked earlier today abd were answered

heavy dock
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need new rings new trinkets

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neck too lol

limber oar
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So i omitted the charge advice

heavy dock
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ye i havent tried the charge thing

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prob should

olive wraith
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It’s a good trink for keys

limber oar
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Honestly even with the charge tech idrc for it

hardy vault
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trinket dimensius is now good on aoe ?

heavy dock
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mm i need to use it after i cast charge?

limber oar
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Prefer sacbrood and pacemaker for thane atm

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Charge->press trinket

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Yes

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Like right after charge goes off

heavy dock
olive wraith
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Floodgate trink

limber oar
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Seaforium pacemaker

heavy dock
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ah that

limber oar
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Passive crit trinket stat stick

heavy dock
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yea ill prob aim for those 2

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or screams

woven valley
olive wraith
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I’ll probably just do double passive all season

woven valley
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Though of course sim yourself

hardy vault
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sim is live with nerf ?

olive wraith
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Trink nerfs happen on reset I think k

sullen dove
olive wraith
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So probably not

heavy dock
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were there more nerfs?

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than antenna

woven valley
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I think only buffs really

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But none of the buffs will change your bis really unless that damage trinket is bonkers with the 10 percent buff

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Perfidiuos whatever it’s called

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I was hoping that trinket would be good reminded me of the queen trinket

hardy vault
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-1.5% screams trinket instead of ara trinket on sims actually, 3boss target. Do u think screams will be bis on aoe after buff ?

modest condor
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the problem with screams is that its aoe effect triggers on death

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and a 3 target sim doesnt have any deaths

tepid cedar
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it does scale nice with vers though

hardy vault
modest condor
tepid cedar
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i know was jsut saying it in general

hardy vault
olive wraith
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(More than roar/spear)

modest condor
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your best bet is just gonna be running it in dungeons and seeing what damage it does

smoky vale
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silm

modest condor
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me

restive peak
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Actually think tickling sack may be better in M+ even though screams is fun

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However is hilariously did more dmg than roar across the key

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So

modest condor
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nah, i have a ticking sack and while it does chunk on bosses i think it's too far behind on trash to be worth it

restive peak
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Hmm, wonder what we run then

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I'm runnin screaming+idol rn

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It's not terrible but not great

modest condor
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obvious choices would be antenna and idol

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is that heroic screams?

restive peak
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Actually it's 3.7 overall

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Yeah

modest condor
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3.7% because the 2.7% is the st one and the 1% is the aoe?

restive peak
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Ye

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But also the explosion did less than the idol on use part lol

bitter palm
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ye screams might not be it

restive peak
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And I don't even consider the idol on use dmg lmao

bitter palm
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prolly idol antenna or sac if u dont have antenna

frank dawn
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The explosion is pretty gimmicky. Short range

restive peak
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Ye, I have a sac I may run for M+

modest condor
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i mean 1.1% extra damage is a lot for a trinket

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when most trinket effects are somewhere in the range of 3%

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1.1% can make or break a trinket

hardy vault
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"Astral Antenna Miss Chance" option on sim, what is the realistic % in raid ? 20% ?

frank dawn
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Yeah and it can still highroll and do pretty significant damage

restive peak
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Also crit is good for AOE

sullen dove
restive peak
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Nailed it

smoky vale
restive peak
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He's all 16 deaths

sullen dove
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im not a single one im the tank

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guys just dying to 3 casters

restive peak
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I'm fuckin w you big doggie

sullen dove
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in very normal sized pulls

smoky vale
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is he doing pblast damage

marble pilot
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I feel like 7s and 10s are the worst. No on interrupts or uses defensives. And half ignore the affix

bitter palm
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ye 10s

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are awful

restive peak
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Do 12s man

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I keep telling you guys

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DO 12S

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At least they can play a bit

olive wraith
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I can’t get invited to 12s lol

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Too many have the same thought

sullen dove
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waste of time to queue surf

restive peak
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I feel dirty bro

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I'm startin to thane sometimes

sullen dove
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yea its better

mossy pelican
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It’s so boring

marble pilot
restive peak
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IDK I still think slayer has its place

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if I'm w FDK+MM I go slayer

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Or streets/DB

mossy pelican
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2 button rotation

restive peak
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Thane really is dogwater compared to slayer feelwise

marble pilot
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3 you bt also

olive wraith
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You ignore bt slayer

mossy pelican
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bt wasn’t the button i was excluding

marble pilot
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Rampage then?

mossy pelican
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ye

olive wraith
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You still rampage as thane?

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Huh

quiet breach
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current thane has gotta be BM hunter tier easy

restive peak
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I mean

quiet breach
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(I never played BM hunter but I can't imagine a spec getting easier)

charred flint
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What is the priority with no tier set

restive peak
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None of our specs are hard lol

charred flint
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on thane

quiet breach
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I know but like

restive peak
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Mega! How've you been big dog?! Long time

charred flint
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just play like i have it? xd

olive wraith
quiet breach
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this shit is beyond braindead

restive peak
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Don't thane pre 4 pce

quiet breach
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thank god thunder blast is cool af as an ability

quiet breach
charred flint
olive wraith
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You can’t really get used to it until you have it though

charred flint
#

Moved to a new city three months ago

#

enjoying it

olive wraith
restive peak
#

I quit for awhile too

#

This tier is a banger

quiet breach
#

I'm ngl bruh I really don't feel like doing hard mode attempt tonight

charred flint
#

Yeah dunno how i feel on Dimensius

#

We'll see if my new guild gets to mythic lmao

mossy pelican
#

My boy hitting me with the @ 15 min later is wicked

olive wraith
#

It’s been 3

#

But okay

mossy pelican
charred flint
#

The only thing thats been really annoying is that the optimziation just keep getting worse and worse

#

P3 on that pillar fight is like perma 5 fps in my PC

olive wraith
#

And still dodges the question cause no answer keks

spare steppe
#

how much of a nerf is antenna?

modest condor
#

negligible

spare steppe
#

nice]

sullen dove
restive peak
#

LOL

#

Is ele hard or 2 button

sullen dove
#

idk he played the game at least

restive peak
#

Feel like most eles suck tbh and I'm confused

sullen dove
#

was maybe like 1 or 2 packs i potentially overpulled that caused a couple deaths but like idk 80% of them were just dying to normal unavoidable stuff

#

like 0 defensives in a purification beam dying over 4 seconds

chilly fractal
#

@restive peak we looting weapons tomorrow?

#

or did you get one

restive peak
#

Bro we're both lootin them

#

I didn't

chilly fractal
#

Super Loot Tuesday

restive peak
#

Bro ez

#

Both my warr and DK gettin 723 weps

chilly fractal
#

it's like a guarantee

restive peak
#

I talked to blizz they said hundo p

chilly fractal
#

15 crests to cap out... can throw some gilded into this neck... finish upgrading my trinket

restive peak
#

Bro I cannot believe they gave us the 15

#

And it still didn't go over cap

#

LMAO

#

Only blizz

onyx linden
#

the fury exe condition shows sometimes these weird things, is it only me?

smoky vale
#

@bitter palm

onyx linden
#

yep, just did

chilly fractal
#

got a neck out of Tazavesh this week, first boss trinket and soulbinder belt... backlog of shit that needs gilded crests

#

Suffering From Success

onyx linden
#

hmm, maybe it was the wrong version

#

now the icon got huge

winter shoal
#

Updating might've clobbered any position/size settings you had manually adjusted maybe

modest condor
onyx linden
#

might be yea, tested on dummy

winter shoal
modest condor
#

idk im still using the s2 weakaura keks

winter shoal
#

No tier andy?

onyx linden
#

i will test it now, had the .2 version, link was broken to the new one

winter shoal
#

I thought you had 2p now silm

modest condor
#

yes tier andy i just press sd whenever it comes up so i dont look at the weakaura anymore

winter shoal
winter shoal
modest condor
#

btw bowl is wowanalyzer updated for the new season? seen a couple of people ask recently and i want to make sure i give the right answer

winter shoal
#

Yeah it is

modest condor
#

ok cool

winter shoal
#

It brings up a very large modal saying it's out of date if it hasn't been updated for the patch the log is from (even for .5 patches)

#

It also says both fury and arms support 11.2 in the "about" tab

#

And the "update support for 11.2" commit is in the public changelog

#

People are just conditioned to thinking it's not up to date though ig

modest condor
#

last time i opened the website was before you started working on it so i barely remember what it looks like

bitter palm
#

gotta redo positions and shit

hardy vault
#

i think our bis after nerf/buff will be ara-kara + screams no ?

olive wraith
#

No

onyx linden
#

yea fixed it now, works as it should now

olive wraith
#

Ara Kara isn’t even bis now

hardy vault
olive wraith
#

Antenna still good

chilly fractal
#

Ara Kara was like 4th?

hardy vault
#

Do you account for an Astral Antenna miss chance in the sim? A 0% miss rate seems unrealistic.

chilly fractal
#

isn't the ball like... extremely obvious and it comes to you? I don't have it but from what I've seen looked simple enough

onyx linden
bitter palm
#

antenna dead arcanocore next

chilly fractal
#

180 crit how could we ever financially recover from this

onyx linden
#

literally unplayable

final vapor
#

what is better arms or fury in m+

modest condor
#

interchangable

indigo totem
#

Yes

fringe vale
onyx linden
winter shoal
#

That specific reason could be "I have more fun playing another spec" and that's totally valid

final vapor
#

I just want top dps meter

#

zug zug all the way

winter shoal
#

Thane fury or colossus arms then probably

#

Slayer fury in a couple dungeons like streets

sullen tendon
#

when you get keystone deserter do you get a debuff that is visible or is it only visible to other peopel

winter shoal
sullen dove
fringe vale
sullen tendon
final vapor
#

arms slayer is lower than fury slayer?

winter shoal
#

Arms slayer is cheeks

#

(very bad)

brittle crow
#

i got cursed stone idol

#

goated or mid

winter shoal
#

Probably our best M+ trinket

bitter palm
#

goated

winter shoal
#

Kinda beans in raid except soulbinder and araz

undone flower
bitter palm
#

(i dont have it)

fringe vale
bitter palm
#

it will lose on st

covert blaze
#

@sullen dove

winter shoal
sullen tendon
bitter palm
#

xdd

sullen dove
bitter palm
#

explode him gg

fringe vale
winter shoal
#

He's an officer wcyd

#

Of course he was a ret

fringe vale
#

i hate you

bitter palm
#

🍽️

winter shoal
#

My penance for being lootfed w1

final vapor
#

it is so visible with red warning

sullen tendon
undone flower
bitter palm
#

everyone can see u are a noob

#

real

sullen tendon
#

answer hte fuckign question holy shit lol

winter shoal
#

I don't think anyone knows

#

We don't desert our keys

undone flower
#

I wouldn’t know myself yes

sullen tendon
#

Can you A. see the debuff yourself and B. Other people can see the debuff.

Is it A + B
Just A
Or Just B

bitter palm
#

everyone sees it

undone flower
#

I insta refuse ppl with the warning

olive wraith
#

People def see the debuff

bitter palm
#

u should see it too

#

but im not 100% sure

#

cause i dont leave my own key and pugging is impossible

final vapor
sullen tendon
#

so it is a debuff that you can see?

final vapor
#

yes

sullen tendon
#

like a normla dungeon deserter debuff

final vapor
#

of course

sullen tendon
#

are you lying to me?

olive wraith
#

Why don’t you Google it if you don’t trust the answers you’re getting

final vapor
#

the deserter accusing me lol

sullen tendon
#

im asking becuase im 3k io but i cant get invited to keys above 13

undone flower
#

But idk if normal deserter = m+ deserter

sullen tendon
#

it takes me hours to get into one same as last season

#

even though fury isnt as bad as last season

olive wraith
#

And like every season

undone flower
#

I don’t think the mark last 1 h

olive wraith
#

Dps is the hardest role to get invited on

final vapor
#

so many good specs in queue why pick warrior

undone flower
#

You will have a hard time getting invites whatever dps you play

hollow leaf
final vapor
#

I wouldn't myself as my shaman

coarse nest
final vapor
#

that is why I only play with guildies and friends with my warrior

undone flower
final vapor
#

after 15,16 I will get warrior if phys comp other than that no

#

its people's mind

#

they never respect warrior unless its broken

#

I meant dps specs

olive wraith
#

Imagine having a group to play with

brittle crow
#

find 1

#

i would not play this game if i had to pug anything

final vapor
#

next time just queue into their keys, they will 99% of the time likely invite you over any others

#

unless you are doing so bad

hollow leaf
#

it was not fun

brittle crow
#

deranged

hollow leaf
#

yep

#

well it was fun otherwise I wouldn't do it

#

but it was tedious

brittle crow
#

that antenna nerf looks like

#

nothing??

#

its still rly good??

final vapor
#

yep its blizz thing to say they nerfed something broken just to save face

#

in fact antenna is still so OP

hot rampart
#

it's not specifically mentioned, but I'm curious that they mention to cast recklessness and avatar together, but can't you just combine all three? reck/ava/ravager

winter shoal
#

You can, but you probably want at least reck on a separate keybind, and probably reck+rav on one as well

hot rampart
#

okay cool, yeah I have that

#

well wait, I have a triple keybind but also a ravager keyind

#

is there a time you want to hold one but send the other two?

modest condor
#

if a trashpack in m+ is like less than half hp you can send reck/rav but hold ava

boreal elm
#

cool to post logs in here for some feedback?

proven stream
#

is screams trinket still good on short fights / keys ?

restive fiber
earnest canyon
tepid cedar
#

antenna nerfs

#

wtf???

#

lol

tepid cedar
earnest canyon
#

3% seems like fuckall, unless im missing something

tepid cedar
#

yea not a lot but was there really a need for it?

#

trinkets are our nightmares this season. theres like no 1.5 min trink that makes my pp hard lol

earnest canyon
#

i dont know how strong that trinket is, just that everyone wants it

#

like every class

tepid cedar
#

i wonder if aranacore jumps up for us now

proven stream
#

how good is screams actually 👀

boreal elm
#

thanks man!

tepid cedar
#

ticking sack is pretty damn good too though. i think it undersims for how good it is

#

m lomithar kill. 710 sack and 710 screams

proven stream
quiet geyser
hollow leaf
#

arcanocore is good but it's asscheeks in comparison to screams

quiet geyser
#

its the exact same trinket, that does half or less damage

#

asscheeks

proven stream
#

well arcanocore has str

#

screams has crit

hollow leaf
#

I tend to dislike trinkets without mainstat

proven stream
#

most of the value is in the mainstat

tepid cedar
# quiet geyser Acore is asscheeks

i cant see a full html report on ful bis gear to see what our vers is in full bis.... it might be one of those things that make it that much betetr than others as u start getting higher vers. etc

proven stream
#

18% vers last i checked

quiet geyser
#

even then, theres multiple other dmg proc trinkets that do more than double core's dmg lol

tepid cedar
#

the new updated wowhead bis list right.

#

cause the one on simc is like 200k lower dps than what wowhead is

proven stream
#

generally mainstat trinkets do less proc dmg

tepid cedar
#

^^^

proven stream
#

its like feather trinket in df

tepid cedar
#

wish they would buff sac

#

cause our trinket game is ass

proven stream
#

unnerf pacemaker 😡

quiet geyser
tepid cedar
#

however

#

every test i have done

#

ticking sack of terror outperfroms eveyrthing

#

which is why im thinking its not simming properly

proven stream
#

yeah idk if robot lying or what

#

i have a sack too but it doesnt win on sims

tepid cedar
#

nope

#

but it wins EVERY FIGHT

#

i did soooooo much dummy testing

proven stream
#

i have arcanocore/sacbrood/tickingsack/pacemaker

tepid cedar
#

and only 1 time screams popped of for like 100 mil on dummy in 4 min

#

every other time sack jsut flat out better

#

im thinking im going to run sac and tick if i get blessed with vault drops if it stays this way.

proven stream
#

hmm i'll give sacbrood/tickingsack a shot next reset

tepid cedar
#

haste + str is always nice

#

and ticking is jsut wrecking

proven stream
#

do u swap out ticking on aoe tho

tepid cedar
#

st dps is jsut so good. i probabl will not

serene moat
#

u guys playing stone idol in aoe?

proven stream
#

i cant get one 😩

tepid cedar
#

our dps is so flat, in raid i dont think it wil make a diff since BS hits like a wet noodle

tepid cedar
#

either pair it with sac or pace

#

lets u hit those gnrarly 30+ mil pulls on gambit sart

#

as fury

serene moat
#

doenst it suck playstyle wise?

tepid cedar
#

only on use worth using imo

#

u get used to it, and atleast u can move while channeling

serene moat
#

i do play hc pacemaker and myth arcanocore

tepid cedar
#

in m+?

#

or raid

serene moat
#

sac an core in raid

#

723 is a whole lot of ilvl

#

sims say, i should swap stone idol for pacemaker

#

in 5t

tepid cedar
#

i dont have a arcana yet, but it seems its like scream. i tried scream on a 15, and it was extereme ass

serene moat
#

well, core only did around 1,4% in my last key

tepid cedar
#

yea thats bad

#

1% inthe whole key is dookie.

serene moat
#

not sure if i wanna get used to stone idol though

#

u charge, press idol and send cds afterwards?

tepid cedar
#

yea

serene moat
#

guess i gotta try

tepid cedar
#

apl says use it when avatar is 2sec from cd

#

but its never gona get that way, so 1 sec before avat comes up use it

#

then pop ava

#

and of course when opening.

/cast reck
charge
use 13/14

#

and manually use ava. works flawlessly this way

serene moat
tepid cedar
#

its the same thing except u press avatar. u can set it to use avtar at the end

#

but in some rare occasion i had it where it wouldent use cursed while charging

serene moat
#

thx mate

hot rampart
#

any nuances to the fury rotation I should know about?

For instance, when you charge in, is there a certain ability you want to make sure you cast for a specific reason before just sending all your CDs?

hardy vault
#

i sims better with arca (723) + ara-kara (710) than arca (723) + astral (710), it's normal ?

olive wraith
#

You want to be enraged

#

Read the wowhead opener

lusty jungle
hot rampart
#

oh really? so send reck/ava and then charge

tepid cedar
#

/cast heroic throw
/cast reck
/cast avatar
/cast charge

#

heroic throw to semi make sure ur in combat, or always make sure u do it after combat begins

#

if not u wont have enough rage for an instant rampage

warm crag
#

Can leave it out for raid if you're never gonna prepull

tepid cedar
#

brooo

#

thats where all my damage in loomie came from

#

heroic throw when rushing back in

#

🤣

proven stream
#

sacbrood basically equal to antenna now

#

with adjusted sims

#
override.spell_data=effect.1230276.coefficient=150.74177
## Perfidious Projector - Damage increased by 10%.
override.spell_data=effect.1231013.coefficient=1216.0236
## Naazindhri’s Mystic Lash - Damage increased by 15%.
override.spell_data=effect.1230671.coefficient=28.2650335
## Astral Antenna - Critical Strike reduced by 3%.
override.spell_data=effect.1229154.coefficient=1.46636161
## Gigazap’s Zap-Cap - Damage increased by 15%.
override.spell_data=effect.1204552.coefficient=4.6985136
## Gigazap’s Zap-Cap - Internal cooldown reduced to 0.5 seconds (was 0.75 seconds).
override.spell_data=spell.1219103.internal_cooldown=500```
tepid cedar
#

gooooood

#

i didnt want to compete with other ppl anyways lol

#

what about at 723

chilly fractal
tepid cedar
#

all i want from vault is either a circuit breaker or the neck

chilly fractal
#

@sudden tusk Did you take the Sacbrood?

tepid cedar
#

i want that fkn vers stack

iron holly
#

36 runs later....finally got it

chilly fractal
sudden tusk
#

sitting on a socket already so eh

chilly fractal
#

Solid choice

tepid cedar
#

knowing my luck im gona get a circuit breaker and neck this vault. and willprobably go with neck lol

chilly fractal
#

The neck is Haste Vers yea?

tepid cedar
#

yea

chilly fractal
#

I’m afk atm so forgot lol

earnest canyon
#

Hi @chilly fractal are you there?

chilly fractal
#

Yes

earnest canyon
#

Ok thanks, I was just checking

chilly fractal
#

lol what

proven stream
#

pretty much

#

fwiw thats -0.0%

chilly fractal
tepid cedar
#

im trying to set myself up for bis items. so ill take smal hits here and there

chilly fractal
#

I’ll be happy with any weapon

tepid cedar
#

i think id get araz weapon if it drops

#

which is an inverted circuit. so it would stil do fine

chilly fractal
#

If you don’t raid with other warriors you for sure should

earnest canyon
proven stream
#

im on fatebound crusader, arms weapon 😐

#

but o well

tepid cedar
#

oh shit

#

we get a cata charge this week

chilly fractal
chilly fractal
tepid cedar
#

i got shoulders from my shitty vault last week. so that wil b nice

#

all of us that got tier first season vault will be doomed rest of the season lolol

chilly fractal
#

I have like 150 gilded crests worth of Myth upgrades currently pending so a weapon would be real nice

proven stream
#

why didnt u craft

chilly fractal
#

I did

#

A weapon would only cost 15 crests

proven stream
#

ah yeah ok i thought u implied u havent upgraded a weap

chilly fractal
#

Nah

tepid cedar
chilly fractal
#

707 neck, 710 belt, 720 trinket

#

I spent crests on myth shoulders and weapon

proven stream
#

i sent gilded on 1 trinket and 2 tier pieces

chilly fractal
#

And most of a trinket

tepid cedar
#

u got more restraint than me. i got my trinkets legs and chest to 710

chilly fractal
#

Champ legs

proven stream
#

its alot of stats on chest/legs/helm yeah

tepid cedar
#

since i knew trinkets are sooo shit i wanted to amx those out asap to try diff heroic ones out and not be stuck with an ass trinket that was "supposed" to be good

#

and im glad i did bc ticking sack is legit hidden bis

tepid cedar
#

damn u simming high af

earnest canyon
#

I think hes cheating

chilly fractal
#

got hero track raid boots which helps

tepid cedar
#

lol

#

however. ticking sack is doing alot more dps than the shit says it is

mossy pelican
#

@olive wraith seems good to me

proven stream
#

heh

tepid cedar
#

u dont count

#

u have a 723 weapon

#

cheater

proven stream
#

🙁

tepid cedar
#

lol

proven stream
#

praying for good trinket this vault

chilly fractal
#

Weapon or bust

#

or... weapon and bust

modest condor
olive wraith
#

What the fuck

#

What key. And why

chilly fractal
#

What Rampage

tepid cedar
olive wraith
#

Oh that’s eco?

mossy pelican
#

i made sure it was a push too keks

modest condor
#

oh only a +11

olive wraith
#

Now imagine if you pushed ramp

mossy pelican
#

this is a huge meme i'm not pushing high keys without ramp LOL

rotund ginkgo
#

I assume antenna nerf isn't big?

olive wraith
#

Context. He was saying thane is a 2 button spec cause he didn’t count rampage

modest condor
#

about 3% to its crit

tepid cedar
#

@chilly fractal the dream tomorrow. nexk is 90k lol

modest condor
signal locust
#

Are trinket buffs retrospective?

rotund ginkgo
signal locust
#

Retroactive lol

mossy pelican
#

hmm they want less buttons peepostudy

unborn delta
#

radiactive

modest condor
#

how can a buff be retroactive?

olive wraith
unborn delta
#

it has tclap

#

and bloodthirst

rotund ginkgo
#

And rampage

#

And rb when bt and clap are on CD

tepid cedar
#

lol u stil have to maximize some things

#

u press jsut that u wont know no where near the damage u should be doing

#

getting raging blows in helps

unborn delta
#

i did 15mil overall with just tclaps

worldly spoke
#

Ready to get buffed tomorrow gang?! Tehe

unborn delta
#

i kept getting resets the entire dungeon

signal locust
#

@modest condor as in you already have the trinket

unborn delta
#

just tclap tclap tclap tclap tclap

modest condor
#

oh like that, then yes

signal locust
#

@modest condor thank you

tepid cedar
chilly fractal
#

clap cheeks... blast cheeks

olive wraith
#

Imagine if tb reset that often

rotund ginkgo
#

Doing a 4.4m on fract

olive wraith
mossy pelican
#

don't need ramp when you can trade frenzy for fresh meat clueless

rotund ginkgo
#

And it's a 7 log

tepid cedar
#

THUNDER BLAST SCALES WITH STATS LIKE FURY DOES

rotund ginkgo
#

Cuz there's only like 20 logs

#

👁️👄👁️

rotund ginkgo
#

Ramp still a good button so idk

winter shoal
#

Youd still rather press ramp than RB almost every time

rotund ginkgo
#

How you do an entire key without

winter shoal
#

as thane

olive wraith
#

Ya I wanna see this meme enrage uptime

rotund ginkgo
#

He said he full proc entire key

mossy pelican
#

non-meme

#

11 vs 10

wicked cloak
rotund ginkgo
mossy pelican
#

less of a drop than i expected tbh

rotund ginkgo
#

Unless fract got killed by 40 more guilds logged on wclogs that have a fury warrior in the past 3 hours

proven stream
#

can i drop slaughtering strikes for fresh meat hmmNod

chilly fractal
#

you can drop anything you want

olive wraith
#

Drop trousers

rotund ginkgo
#

Yeah it was like 30 logs 3 hours ago

#

Guess more kills

#

I never said it's a high log BTW

wicked cloak
#

yeah most people was on it today

mossy pelican
#

drop warrior play fdk

rotund ginkgo
#

I got dogshit gear compared to other warrs

young swan
rotund ginkgo
olive wraith
#

Fdk feels more like a 2 button spec than fury

rotund ginkgo
#

I checked defensive usage there

young swan
#

i think 4.5m for mythic frac is like

#

very easy

#

gear doesnt even really matter

#

my gear is insanely average

tepid cedar
#

I can’t wait to get to frac on mythic. I wrecked that mfr in heroic. I love true st fights

rotund ginkgo
#

And my kill was 4 hours ago

#

5?

#

Maybe 6 hours idk idc

young swan
#

yeah i mean the boss got slaughtered

#

its easy as fuck now

tepid cedar
#

How many pulls is it taking ppl to kill frac?

young swan
#

5-20

rotund ginkgo
#

Yeah I did 4.4 I cant day I played amazing or that it was a clean pull (we had a few deaths)

young swan
#

is prob the average

tepid cedar
#

Nice

chilly fractal
#

I've been watching Jdotb and Growl prog on Frac since last night

#

peak material

tepid cedar
#

How about soul hunter?

rotund ginkgo
#

We took like 30 cuz yesterday there was a bug on tank weakauras for it on liquid auras

tepid cedar
#

How bad is that fight

rotund ginkgo
#

👁️👄👁️

young swan
rotund ginkgo
#

We spent 15 mins just waiting for updates

tepid cedar
#

I’m hoping to start soul hunter Saturday

young swan
#

hellscape apparently

rotund ginkgo
#

Yeah it's kinda ass

tepid cedar
#

Maybe even Friday

rotund ginkgo
#

It's fun but it's ass yk

tepid cedar
#

Great

#

The worst part is that you can’t see fucking shit

#

So much for these new graphic options

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Why can we not turn off every fkn effect except the boss shit

rotund ginkgo
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Intermission tethers sabotage

tepid cedar
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I don’t give a fuck about my guildies abilities effects. Let me see the fkn bosses lol

proven stream
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speaking of that

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fuck dimensius hands

tepid cedar
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Rightttttt

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Lolol

rotund ginkgo
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But yes idgaf about my dhs eye beam

tepid cedar
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I mean yes

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Let me see healers floor shit

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Like actually make “essentials” be essentials

slim coral
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it's a perma range fight