Was thinking of the 45sec cd should time the adds pretty well
#fury
sullen dove
idk tried it a few times wasnt that impressive
a bladestorm is still like triple the dmg of an of and think just bustin the mobs with regular rotational abilities kinda stronger
fossil orbit
Ok ty. pitty, i really miss OF
night cedar
We gain dmg vs target under 40% life?
honest trail
We gain dmg vs target under 40% life?
edgy widget
prob not; if you need AoE that bad, just go Thane
spare steppe
whats that bloodthirst button do
earnest canyon
Wait, you can soak the pulsing aoe? Cos thats what is wiping our raid atm
honest trail
We split in two groups on the first two to charge & meet on 3rd
Killing all 3 before they charge
upper trellis
Wait, you can soak the pulsing aoe? Cos thats what is wiping our raid atm
keep the adds between the pylon and the middle thing
edgy widget
Wait, you can soak the pulsing aoe? Cos thats what is wiping our raid atm
Yeah, so once a collector reaches full energy, it shoots out a thin lightning lookin beam toward the boss in the center - if it hits an add first, it will get absorbed
if it hits the boss w/out being intercepted by an add, it'll do aoe dam to the raid
upper trellis
what they said ^
earnest canyon
oh so its that beam that causes the super high pulsing aoe...thanks
edgy widget
yeah
upper trellis
mhm
edgy widget
not the thick lines on the ground, mind you
we're talking about two different mechanics here
upper trellis
so many lines coming off the same thing lol
edgy widget
- the thick straight bold lines come out all the time - you just dodge those
- at max energy, the collectors also create a thin arcing lightning looking beam directly toward the center of the room - an add needs to be placed in between them
earnest canyon
the thick lines arent an issue, we just avoid them....its the raid wide pulse at 100% energy that wrecks us as we cant kill all 3 before one gets full
edgy widget
I know, I'm just clarifying that there are two different "beams" on the fight and not to confuse them
upper trellis
just have the off tank keep add between pylon and boss. every pug raid ive been in cannot understand it for some reason
edgy widget
tbf the journal doesn't explain it very well
upper trellis
no it does not
edgy widget
and the later line isn't super visible either, unless you're really looking for it
honest trail
We just assumed it was a dps check on our end tbf
earnest canyon
and this applies to heroic too? not just a mythic thing?
tepid cedar
good. didnt time it but once u get past 2nd pull and mail room
honest trail
It's interesting for mythic tho
tepid cedar
its all smooth sailing
tepid cedar
We gain dmg vs target under 40% life?
35
flat river
upper trellis
LOL
edgy widget
we should get that for the discord too
flat river
we should get that for the discord too
REAL
upper trellis
does something like this exist for frostmourne/azralon realms?
keen dove
and kazzak
flat river
upper trellis
no i mean auto-decline ANY player from those realms, not just anti-ret
feral ivy
so just to make sure 4pc M+ rotation outside cd's and im enraged i spam BT and TB if they proc and if i dont have either i just do ramp>BT>RB>ramp>BT>RB
plush zephyr
Is this real?
Cause I want it
I’ve been declining Pallys all season 💪
Instadecline
narrow geode
Any Slayer Fury who can help me with my question real quick?
olive wraith
so just to make sure 4pc M+ rotation outside cd's and im enraged i spam BT and T...
Bt is higher than ramp.
remote bobcat
Any Slayer Fury who can help me with my question real quick?
ofc
olive wraith
Ya I try to avoid 10s honestly
chilly fractal
Ya I try to avoid 10s honestly
I try to be a man of the people
olive wraith
It’s just full of people forcing weekly keys
chilly fractal
but this one... it was rough
plush zephyr
Any Slayer Fury who can help me with my question real quick?
We all here
feral ivy
Bt is higher than ramp.
so BT>RB>BT>RB>ramp(just to enrage)>BT>RB>RB>BT?
meager hound
I play Colossus Fury, myself. I'm a rebel.
narrow geode
Just have 2P so im running Slayer for M+
Feeling like im running out of Enrage hella fast, tho the prio says to use Rampage at like <115ish rage
Do i just refresh with BT cause BT prio seems low af or do i just Rampage when Enrage is close to end
olive wraith
so BT>RB>BT>RB>ramp(just to enrage)>BT>RB>RB>BT?
I think you need to refresh with the wowhead rotation friend
remote bobcat
Just have 2P so im running Slayer for M+
Feeling like im running out of Enrage h...
in m+ with 2set you press BT at 3 or more targets over raging blow
iirc
narrow geode
in m+ with 2set you press BT at 3 or more targets over raging blow
Ohh i see
remote bobcat
Ohh i see
also if your enrage runs out then getting enraged is your number 1 priority always
even if that means sending an 80 rage rampage
restive peak
You should be able to weave 3-4 GCDs per ramp in Jannik
chilly fractal
damn this was a +8 yesterday
dude it was horrid
restive peak
But yes you can literally hit ramp as enrage ends and you're good
Ramp enrages itself anyway, so even if there's like a .1s drop into ramp
You'll lose nothing
chilly fractal
You'll lose nothing
Idk man... Anton Chigurh told me I have everything to lose in a coin toss
narrow geode
Alright!
Thank you for helping and answering so fast, i appreciate that help so much :)
chilly fractal
and this seems like even higher stakes
remote bobcat
also
if ur only running 2set Jannik
I heavily recommend looking into loboz build ™
upper trellis
and this seems like even higher stakes
dont leave that 0.1% dps on the table if u can help it
warm crag
lobozeratur
chilly fractal
dont leave that 0.1% dps on the table if u can help it
remote bobcat
flat river
rampage is 3 for me
upper trellis
BT is 3
undone flower
Damn loomithar is a target dummy in mythic
flat river
Execute Shift+E
restive peak
Imagine not having BT 2 RB 3 BS 4 Ramp T
undone flower
Rampage is Q for me
restive peak
WW G
remote bobcat
Execute Shift+E
shut the fuck up
flat river
shut the fuck up
nuh uh
upper trellis
i use a naga mouse so as nuts as this looks its ez
remote bobcat
i already flamed u for your keybinds long ago
restive peak
X for execute bois
remote bobcat
you deserve the flame
flat river
Execute should always be shift+e
remote bobcat
imagine shift E executing
undone flower
E is whirlwind
spare steppe
R is whirlwind
restive peak
NGL a modifier for a main ability is a bit wild
warm crag
X for execute bois
does the group that boost you into title keys also offer solo shuffle hopefulx boosts?
undone flower
R is CD macro bc it is my ult
remote bobcat
NGL a modifier for a main ability is a bit wild
wait til u hear his other keybinds
restive peak
R is rally
upper trellis
^ this is true for my raid builds
flat river
wait til u hear his other keybinds
wait i need to screenshot it
spare steppe
R is rally
R is too easy to hit, T is rally
flat river
gimme a sec
upper trellis
idk why the wowhead M+ build doesnt take rally anymore but i dont question it i just obey and zug zug
remote bobcat
wait i need to screenshot it
you will get ripped to shreds just so u know
restive peak
T is main dmg ability on every class
flat river
you will get ripped to shreds just so u know
i will spell reflect
warm crag
idk why the wowhead M+ build doesnt take rally anymore but i dont question it i ...
the same person that recommends this also said that inspiring presence had a low pickrate
upper trellis
😮
flat river
@remote bobcat @restive peak
upper trellis
LOL
warm crag
mount bar is meta
restive peak
Why do you like holding shift so much
restive peak
I mean it's my main modifier too but jesus
upper trellis
im just over here happy no-body tearin me up
restive peak
HP pot 6 xD
upper trellis
i got it all on the bars with no modifiers
upper trellis
how often do you accidentally hit health pot dont lie
fickle cedar
hp pot 6 is insaner honestly +2
flat river
how often do you accidentally hit health pot dont lie
almost never
upper trellis
key word almost
restive peak
Shift Q is such a garbage bind to hit how fckin small are your hands bro
plush maple
flat river
i press healthstone more often by accident
plush maple
Noobs
restive peak
You know how far I have to bend my finger to shift Q without a massive move?
warm crag
q and e are clearly meant for keyboard turning
spare steppe
<@294878943004327952> <@301095302977290241>
Avatar on shift Q?
remote bobcat
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/365419450054344704/1373346446568460379/im...
casual player pov
flat river
Avatar on shift Q?
shift+r
remote bobcat
my avatar is on shift Q actually
grave lantern
In pure ST are you all in opener after first bladestorm, using 2 RBS to stack up your empowered rampage or is it minimal damage loss to just rampage after BS
sullen dove
ur hand should just naturally have your pinky resting on shift
restive peak
My ava/reck etc macro is shift T
flat river
ur hand should just naturally have your pinky resting on shift
it is
upper trellis
q and e are clearly meant for keyboard turning
nah i use them to strafe cuz i be holdin right click all the time cuz i use my left thumb for wsad+
orchid brook
shift+e long cds, shift+q shorter cds or direct damage cds
restive peak
It's the bending my other finger into shift as I move to Q
remote bobcat
this is me
fickle cedar
yeah q e r are insanely easy to press
restive peak
Fuckin tell me you have baby hands without telling me you have baby hands bro
olive wraith
In pure ST are you all in opener after first bladestorm, using 2 RBS to stack u...
Press rb as much as possible until enrage falls off or you get exe conditionals
plush maple
casual player pov
WHAT DO YOU MEAN?!
remote bobcat
WHAT DO YOU MEAN?!
you have casual player actionbars sry not sry
plush maple
grave lantern
Press rb as much as possible until enrage falls off or you get exe conditionals
are the conditions just 2 stacks of either SD or mark?
civic bobcat
Guys, in the situation I'm in with 4p, when do I use BT? I see a lot of logs and players using more or less, I don't understand.
flat river
shift+e long cds, shift+q shorter cds or direct damage cds
shift+q for short cds, shift+e for execute, shift+r and shift+t for big cds
restive peak
Guys, in the situation I'm in with 4p, when do I use BT? I see a lot of logs and...
You don't it's giga last shot filler
flat river
shift+f and shift+g for defensive
remote bobcat
are the conditions just 2 stacks of either SD or mark?
or AJ falls off or SD runs out
plush maple
you have casual player actionbars sry not sry
How does yours look like?
olive wraith
are the conditions just 2 stacks of either SD or mark?
2mfe or 2 sd. On opener 2 mfe is most likely to happen first
remote bobcat
scroll up
restive peak
NGL Kronz is actually sick looking
warm crag
Fuckin tell me you have baby hands without telling me you have baby hands bro
have you considered that you are the outlier
sullen dove
impossible
fickle cedar
Guys, in the situation I'm in with 4p, when do I use BT? I see a lot of logs and...
remember that bladestorm uses BT (no idea if it counts as casts tho), basically filler
grave lantern
ty guys
restive peak
have you considered that you are the outlier
Don't care I will diss all smaller handed individuals
upper trellis
how to get more casul? turn bar art back on?
orchid brook
shift+q for short cds, shift+e for execute, shift+r and shift+t for big cds
I can't do modifier for frequent direct damage it's too much
remote bobcat
shift+q for short cds, shift+e for execute, shift+r and shift+t for big cds
HOW IS YOUR "E" BUTTON UNUSED BUT YOU HAVE EXECUTE ON SHIFT-E ????????????
no.
restive peak
The art bar is actually legendary mogging though, respect
plush maple
this is me
PRO player wannabe pov
sullen dove
HOW IS YOUR "E" BUTTON UNUSED BUT YOU HAVE EXECUTE ON SHIFT-E ????????????
e is strafe bud
edgy widget
are the conditions just 2 stacks of either SD or mark?
Pretty close yeah
flat river
HOW IS YOUR "E" BUTTON UNUSED BUT YOU HAVE EXECUTE ON SHIFT-E ????????????
BECAUSE I NEED IT TO BE SHIFT+E
warm crag
Don't care I will diss all smaller handed individuals
you should start with all the noobs that declined mythic treach when it dropped
restive peak
you should start with all the noobs that declined mythic treach when it dropped
Bro I ended up using it I felt dirty as fuck
Cuz my DK got it
flat river
no it is not he has it bound
yeah it's not bound
restive peak
Then I realized it was giga simple
warm crag
get cooked buddy
orchid brook
restive peak
But silently didn't wanna admit it
warm crag
Then I realized it was giga simple
get cooked buddy
restive peak
But I'll admit it now...you were right
warm crag
But silently didn't wanna admit it
get cooked buddy
orchid brook
swap thunderclap and whirlwind for thane/slayer
restive peak
remote bobcat
yeah it's not bound
the key is bound but theres no ability used for the bind
warm crag
But I'll admit it now...you were right
get cooked buddy
remote bobcat
u dummy
warm crag
enough cooking
restive peak
We love a good chef show
orchid brook
I should move pot to 3
flat river
why is 1 and 2 defensives
restive peak
He likes safety
upper trellis
bro is tryna fury tank
warm crag
@restive peak for this character development you are rewarded with a schmidi gif
echo rapids
Feels like we sort of have a unique role now as slayer in m+? Did a few keys with feral and assa and we fill a nice niche
warm crag
orchid brook
I hit them shits
restive peak
Feels like we sort of have a unique role now as slayer in m+? Did a few keys wi...
Bro we are HYPED
LMAOOOO
orchid brook
frequently
warm crag
@gleaming siren
echo rapids
Big aoe bursts from them and then I’m just plowing the high health mobs
orchid brook
how often do you think pugs are hitting their defensives in keys
plush maple
how often do you think pugs are hitting their defensives in keys
What defensive?
upper trellis
i always joke and ask locks for rocks so i can forget to use them
sullen dove
putting spell reflect there would be like somewhat reasonable
chilly fractal
https://tenor.com/view/ben-affleck-regret-patience-smoke-done-gif-17760059373837...
me rn
orchid brook
I mean
upper trellis
spell reflect is like, a great dps ability too if you get lucky with what targets you
upper trellis
and if the pugs dont interrupt when you dont want them too
orchid brook
but hitting 1 is more annoying than z
restive peak
I kicked a prot warrs reflect yday and immediately felt like an asshole
upper trellis
hitting 1 is what my left ring finger does
remote bobcat
I kicked a prot warrs reflect yday and immediately felt like an asshole
good
orchid brook
hitting 1 is what my left ring finger does
if that finger sits on a, z is literally just closer than 1
upper trellis
pinky on a
orchid brook
what
warm crag
can we quarter this guy publically
orchid brook
ok well if you've got some weird shit going on
we just arent operating on the same setup so idk
remote bobcat
PINKY ON A ????? WHILE RING FINGER IS ON 1^????
earnest canyon
pinky on a
edgy widget
What exactly is wrong with pinky on A? That’s classic WASD
upper trellis
thumb + pinky hits movement keys, ring middle pointer hits 1 through 6 and the F keys
sullen dove
ring finger is on a...
warm crag
What exactly is wrong with pinky on A? That’s classic WASD
self report
orchid brook
holy shit
upper trellis
right thumb on the other half of bar via naga mouse
sullen dove
pinky is on shift..
sullen dove
^
edgy widget
That’s new age shit
chilly fractal
pinky on A? when I'm on my home row
edgy widget
You don’t need a dedicated finger on shift, it’s right next to A and can just roll onto it
remote bobcat
thumb + pinky hits movement keys, ring middle pointer hits 1 through 6 and the F...
THIS IS YOUR POV?
WHAT
edgy widget
That’s just torturous
edgy widget
Bro the way CSGO pros play is wild
What’s wild is regular people trying to mimic it thinking they’re CSGO pros
bitter palm
unused Q
unused E
unused F
-> Shift E execute
-> Shift 3 Charge
i fw shift e
upper trellis
orchid brook
my god
remote bobcat
i fw shift e
why would you shift E execute when you didnt bind Q and E to anything, not even strafe
thats what gala did
warm crag
unused q unused e is psycho shit to me
could be worse
could have those bound to keyboard turning
remote bobcat
this is giving arthritis
orchid brook
true
edgy widget
why would you shift E execute when you didnt bind Q and E to anything, not even ...
People that unbind strafe make me 
upper trellis
my hand doesnt have to move left and right like a piano player
orchid brook
strafe A and D
edgy widget
my hand doesnt have to move left and right like a piano player
Na you just gotta constrict it like an ancient Chinese method of binding
unborn delta
i have shift and alt as modifiers
edgy widget
Does your hand stay like that when you take it off the keyboard?
edgy widget
like the shoes that give people fucked up feet
That’s what binding was lol yeah (though more wrapped cloth strips than shoes as we know them)
young swan
pug dps warrior experience just as unpleasant as ever huh
upper trellis
be ready to carry when you DO get a group
edgy widget
Man no wonder people aren’t inviting warriors to their keys
unborn delta
i get invs fine to 10s and 11s, 12-13s are kinda tough though rn
remote bobcat
btw we need to talk about smth .. every random warr i invite out of courtesy when im on my alt ends up being the worst player alive
what is this
olive wraith
Man no wonder people aren’t inviting warriors to their keys
Because we don’t have hand bindings?
edgy widget
This is why Frost and Ret rotations are so dumbed down, kids these days can’t press more than 3 binds and drive at the same time
sinful spoke
btw we need to talk about smth .. every random warr i invite out of courtesy whe...
because the average warrior player is shit
remote bobcat
This is why Frost and Ret rotations are so dumbed down, kids these days can’t pr...
in raid we press 3 buttons as well tho
upper trellis
this was actually a better than usual group for interrupts in my experience
sinful spoke
u only got 24 kicks?
edgy widget
in raid we press 3 buttons as well tho
Yeah but we CAN press more! 
restive peak
I'm actually gonna howl if our very mid RWF rep leads to a buff and we become meta for M+ because on the damage basis we're right there lol
edgy widget
Good joke
remote bobcat
Yeah but we CAN press more! <:keks:936231610850897992>
real shit
upper trellis
u only got 24 kicks?
most of the stuff was dead before casts were finishing was only an 8
sinful spoke
I'm actually gonna howl if our very mid RWF rep leads to a buff and we become me...
me when i cope
warm crag
lethal amounts of copium
unborn delta
what bosses was dps warr in on
narrow geode
@remote bobcat can you check dms?
young swan
what bosses was dps warr in on
loomithar and fractillus
warm crag
first 2 and fractilus
remote bobcat
yerrr
edgy widget
what bosses was dps warr in on
Most of them, just got swapped out before the kill! 
warm crag
revvez saw dimensius but hes out for good maybe
upper trellis
can we still heroic leap the plexus walls in pushback phase?
unborn delta
you could bring any comp to the first two though
young swan
loomithar was boss 3
cause it had a semi-real dps/heal check
the only "real" boss it was in for the kill on was fractillus
chilly fractal
Method ran Dan for all but Soul Hunters and the kill on Nexus King iirc
chilly fractal
FeelsBadMan
flat river
No loot in vault for me 
chilly fractal
did you get a 723 weapon already?
if not... then you're getting one in the vault next week
guaranteed
sterile stratus
thats what i tell myself every week
supple laurel
ay yo lmao dafuq
upper trellis
elder plover
Just curious if it's the same for others but when I sim my warrior it's leaning into Vers haste, instead of Haste mastery. Is it the same for any of you?
remote bobcat
thats normal
im leaning into vers > mastery > crit > haste rn
cuz im hella overcappewd
upper trellis
mine goes full on mastery/haste vers/crit be damned
but me does what sim massa says
warm crag
40401010
sullen dove
a better time
elder plover
I am 45% haste and 50% mastery and 2% vers
sullen dove
elder plover
and 15% Crit
elder plover
to low?
sinful spoke
very
dry aspen
can anyone take a peek at my logs and see what huge obvious thing I'm missing? I thought I was playing decently but I got green parses in normal today and I don't understand what I'm missing :/ I just started playing WoW and have read the wowhead guide
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/MLV1WCz4TyvxwpZb?fight=last&type=damage-done&source=30
sinful spoke
can anyone take a peek at my logs and see what huge obvious thing I'm missing? I...
the experts here r nice
they'll help yua out
dry aspen
okay ❤️
edgy widget
Just curious if it's the same for others but when I sim my warrior it's leaning ...
Yeah it happens after ~44% mastery or so
full crow
do i keep delve belt until i get myth track belt?
edgy widget
More or less
remote bobcat
can anyone take a peek at my logs and see what huge obvious thing I'm missing? I...
(you're undergeared, you have the wrong ability active in your belt, your weapons are very bad and you also have rotational mistakes in your gameplay, your opener for example is not how you are supposed to open combat according to the wowhead guide or anyone else's recommendation)
yes post it in #1347646810457636974 as cheche said
elder plover
Yeah it happens after ~44% mastery or so
Thank you for the info
iron holly
with 4 set mountain thane, do we prio bt over rb?
remote bobcat
with 4 set mountain thane, do we prio bt over rb?
yes
we even prio bt over rampage in aoe
while enraged
iron holly
even if rage capped?
iron holly
oh wow ok ty
remote bobcat
even if rage capped?
celest hearth
when do you pop cursed stone idol in thane multi target opener
fickle cedar
before your burst
viscid condor
damn i played slayer for weekly keys shit is actually so fire
bitter palm
damn i played slayer for weekly keys shit is actually so fire
ye gameplay is peak
unique wyvern
guys
are u not pressing dragons roar on cd anymore?
im watching crit playing here and he doesnt fcking care about DR lol
dense elbow
On ST? No, it seems people are not
bitter palm
on st its low prio
unique wyvern
only on 3 target then?
upper trellis
roar when pad shows up
dense elbow
It is the new balance goal of things, button is supposed to be used on AoE and not on ST. We got a very flat profile and our CDs are more specialised tools than ever.
Hey, at least we got a pretty ok filler ability in Roar 
(it do be better than slam)
chilly fractal
New DH spec looks like its just straight up ranged that goes in to eye beam or w/e
fickle cedar
looks cool I'm playing that shit
chilly fractal
I'll prolly play it during the alpha or beta
hardy vault
Is jastor buff bugged ? 0% uptime right here
dense elbow
I am quite glad I never got a mythic jastor, based on seeing that WA
dense elbow
I am even more glad
fickle cedar
thought they fixed it mid season so I stopped using that WA
chilly fractal
I do remember it popping up much less at some point
fickle cedar
there's no 704 ring better than jastor mythic? using 2 704s rn
chilly fractal
704 is barely worse if that
delicate mirage
2 set do i go to Slayer
chilly fractal
Don’t even worry about it
delicate mirage
till i get 4 set? For M+
chilly fractal
2 set do i go to Slayer
Yes
dense elbow
No need to, but it is a bit stronger
delicate mirage
ty boys
dense elbow
Good thing about ppl going slayer for (2) tho, is a lot more ppl embrace that Slayer just is better and more fun gameplay
chilly fractal
Even with 4p I enjoy playing Slayer in keys for sure
wicked flicker
Thane feels really fun when you actually get procs
fickle cedar
getting 20M DPS on a pull is fun as thane, I'll switch for weeklies maybe
restive peak
Finished all my 14/15s 1st or 2nd with giga insane boss dam as slayer shrug
restive peak
Slayers value is going up as I climb higher honestly
feral ivy
weird question i know soulbinder is multiple adds but should i even go AOE build if they just get deleted or i never time my cd's good lol
restive peak
Packs last longer > more bs/reck uptime > prio and boss dam far more important
Yeah lol it cranks
restive peak
My buddies today
"Warrior is secret OP??"
#1 overall in 15 DB, #2 just behind DK on 15 priory lol
fickle cedar
I'm glad both fury specs are really good not a lot of specs can say the same
young swan
okay slayer might feel fucking epic but you cannot deny this is sick as fuck
restive peak
I actually hate TBing back to back etc when it procs
bitter palm
same
restive peak
Ye IDK it just feels way clunkier than before to me
bitter palm
i just weave in between
bitter palm
my n1 complaint with thane is
when i bt and get tb
why doesnt it reset
tc cd
oh cool i got a proc!
cant use it
restive peak
Cuz FUCK WARRIORS THATS WHY
serene moat
wait, do we press WW instead of slam as the last filler in ST (without improved ww)
fickle cedar
yeah ww is better than slam in st now with the WW buffs
dense elbow
Slam does 0 dam, just WW
serene moat
bitter palm
Which is such a blizzard level oversight so fuckin funny
i have like
dense elbow
I think it is on purpose, get rid of button bloat for the sake of button bloat
restive peak
Yeah told you
It does basically the same overall cuz your prio target and the other 4 take giga fuckin RB dam anyway
restive peak
That's my boi
compact knot
i think its this tier sey
bitter palm
i dont think it can get better
compact knot
set
whole yacht
fury is better than people thought it was going to be?
bitter palm
bake it into hero talents
compact knot
and rewards smarter cd usage kinda
dense elbow
Don't think so, we are kinda where we expected no?
restive peak
Slayer actually using execute is goated
bitter palm
slayer was underplayed on the ptr
but i think its cause our st was weak
and giga outliers
dense elbow
I mean, Slayer with latency wasn't much fun
bitter palm
also that ye
compact knot
also are na servers just fucked
bitter palm
Slayer actually using execute is goated
and it actually does damage
compact knot
i been lagging way more
bitter palm
peak
restive peak
Right
olive wraith
I keep saying this. This is was Df s1 should have been like
dense elbow
You gave up on Thane?
olive wraith
Who me or linc
dense elbow
Lincc clearly never was very camp Thane this season 
dense elbow
Nice, you are 50% converted
restive peak
I don't enjoy this version of thane, no
bitter palm
I see DH, I turn off meters
xdd
restive peak
And I don't think slayer is weaker for M+, so see no reason as of now
olive wraith
Honestly. Not seeing a lot of Dh in my key levels atm
restive peak
Tbh if I decide to go an AOE spec now it would prob be the arms build that's been starting to get some play
olive wraith
12ish
restive peak
Cuz it seems to compete w thane for overall
bitter palm
colo has very good aoe but clunky kinda
slayer is like the middle ground
a lot more fluid tho
restive peak
Slayer so smooth bro, genuinely until the day I am the reason a timer is missed
I'm not swappin
modest condor
i havent seen colo arms do noticably better than fury yet
crit and biz were doing keys earlier and crit did beat biz but honestly neither of those proved arms to be better
one key was gambit where arms just pads on the murlocs, and the other one was priory where biz died on the lust pull
everything after that they were doing basically the same damage
olive wraith
Nice, you are 50% converted
Also partially cause I can’t turn my monkey brain away from seeing overall. I know slayer is good it’s just thane is easier to get higher overall
viscid condor
did littlewigs update just change default behavior
olive wraith
Don’t judge me linc
viscid condor
doesnt have the announcement title anymore f or the blinding light turn
or countdwon
plush zephyr
i havent seen colo arms do noticably better than fury yet
Yep. I noticed today my arms details feels like padding with cleave.
dense elbow
Always has been
bitter palm
always has been ye
restive peak
Thane is also padding....
hallow sphinx
Thane is also padding....
🎣
dense elbow
You are padding with Slayer as well hitting 4 random targets is equally pad as hitting 10 for less
olive wraith
At least slayer padding is ethical
bitter palm
untalent from ww
dense elbow
You could skip pressing ww
restive peak
Slayer padding kills the shit that matters, those murlocs are dead regardless
olive wraith
Since more your damage is prio
sullen dove
🎣
dense elbow
Slayer Pas hits are far more random on AoE, they don't always hit the same targets
It's far more innerficent pad
bitter palm
gotta position gng
dense elbow
Hitting everything is better than sometimes hitting something
red berry
killing murlocs faster
upper trellis
all i hear during raid is KA-CHING
dense elbow
Ya kill the one murlock you are targeting faster, the 4 other hits go everywhere
upper trellis
except soul hunters
modest condor
im all for advocating for slayer for prio damage
dense elbow
Is it better to hit the 20 murlocks to death with 4 hit for more, or all of them hit for less
Accept it, pad is pad
modest condor
but saying that it also does more damage to other important mobs in a big aoe pull is cap
red berry
it’s completely cap
restive peak
What if it turns me on more silm
olive wraith
I can’t decide if slayer is better for flood
dense elbow
Lincc is built different, well rather, his tank is. The tank splits 5 mobs to the side
So it is pure prio dam
It is technically possible
upper trellis
in M+ i just slap spear in the middle of all the adds after tank groups
modest condor
when my tank learned that spear is more dps in m+ for us he was like "you're not playing that are you"
olive wraith
lol
upper trellis
i wait till its obvious the tank isnt moving the adds for 5 seconds
i can totally understand tanks not liking spear
red berry
is spear more? thought roar did just slightly more
modest condor
spear is better on aoe
bitter palm
idk i think spear is like
dense elbow
Who knows, roar buffs OF, buff said
bitter palm
ye its an increase
but is it really
in a real key
maybe with bdk whos playing gorefiends
if thats even possible anymore
or vdh
if u can actually hit the mobs with spear
upper trellis
bitter palm
not for pug tanks
bitter palm
For slayer I think it’s still roar?
y
dense elbow
Fair enough
modest condor
i think it's pretty easy to get everything in your spear except in something like first pull gambit where you pull mobs from halfway across the map and there's area denial everywhere
bitter palm
olive wraith
Spear increases the damage of the rest of your crits
upper trellis
yes but im also seeing the up front dps too
dense elbow
Murlocks on gambit naturally gather to one ball under the giant tho
upper trellis
spear better
modest condor
Murlocks on gambit naturally gather to one ball under the giant tho
yeah but it takes 2 hours
olive wraith
spear better
Depends on pull size
fair cave
how much worst is slayer fury m+ vs thane
olive wraith
how much worst is slayer fury m+ vs thane
Slayer low key good
Just diff damage profiles
modest condor
it's not worse it just has a different damage profile
olive wraith
If you worry about overalls then it’s worse
modest condor
i guess you could argue less tanky but that's only relevant in high keys
fair cave
bt prio in aoe right?
olive wraith
bt prio in aoe right?
Kinda depends
dense elbow
For slayer, not really. For Thane, yeah
dense elbow
25 murlocks? Press BT
olive wraith
Reap goes brrrrr
frail sedge
spam bt lo
olive wraith
Ye in 6t+
olive wraith
6+ bt takes prio
If you don’t wanna kill prio targets faster
dense elbow
If it ain't giga AoE, I would just send RB. Push in as much ST dam with your cleave
Leave the mass aoe to the aoe lada
olive wraith
More ethical to kill important shit by using rb
compact knot
If you don’t wanna kill prio targets faster
BORINGGGGGG
olive wraith
compact knot
spam BT FOR BIG OVERALLS
dense elbow
Also makes keys so much smoother, kill a caster, the pull got infinitly safer
fair cave
also big pp boss dmg
olive wraith
Also makes keys so much smoother, kill a caster, the pull got infinitly safer
How are we supposed to pad kicks 
dense elbow
I already lead kicks by a mile, I just reduce the chance of others missclicking theirs
dense elbow
Last key I had 52 interupts, healer had 32, retribution had 22 
lusty jungle
pad overall so we get invited to keys
dense elbow
Kickmaster
olive wraith
Damn solid healer
lusty jungle
community effort
olive wraith
pad overall so we get invited to keys
Gotta petition everyone to switch back to thane then
dense elbow
Why try to pad meters, sure we can pad 8-9m, but in those runs the AoE pad masters will do 10m
Just embrace prio dam
Be Happy
dense elbow
olive wraith
I’m getting unlucky this week
undone flower
fury good.
dense elbow
U stretching almost
olive wraith
Just shy of 2.8k
dense elbow
Btw, I know I won't be popular, but don't sleep on playing prot. It is a lot of fun this season in lower keys, 10-14. As tanks are just super strong
Give it a try
olive wraith
I should. I’m kinda lazy when it comes to learning pathing
tiny basalt
dont worry about that, the dps will tell you when you're wrong
timid forge
i see ppl taking wrecking for last boss. when is the best time to use it ? i didnt think there was a shield to break
earnest canyon
dont worry about that, the dps will tell you when you're wrong
Yup, and they are always polite about it:
"omfg noob tank....wtf u goin?? Did u get boost"
"we wont time key cuz tank is idiot"
etc
dense elbow
Protip: always chainpull and keep them in combat. They won't write in chat while doing their rotation
fair cave
Unless they die for aoe/not kicking important stuff. Then healer sucks
feral ivy
is mythic fractillus as braindead as heroic version
olive wraith
Afaik it’s just a wa boss
dense fulcrum
idol simming kinda high in aoe for me guys, for you too? u tested it?
dense fulcrum
it does sim well in st too but i have dimensius trink and eradicore that sim higher i
but in aoe its saying ara kara + idol better than pacemaker or screams
restive peak
Idol is amazing for M+
dense fulcrum
right?
kinda want to go farm it lol i only did hall to get resi key but fuck that gonna spam it 😄
gusty maple
yall running spear?
upper trellis
in M+ fuck yeah
vapid tiger
on H Dimensius do you guys swap to the adds or just hit WW and cleave it down?
fast crest
704 screams seems to do more than 723 arcanocore for me
restive peak
Screams is gangster
fast crest
even in M+
vapid tiger
Cleave
how close do you need to be for that, hard to see with all the purple stuff on teh ground
fast crest
are there like 3 different comet procs?
restive peak
Ranged will giga crank the back add just stand near the front 1
Which you need to anyway cuz this massive fuckin city sized boss has the hitbox of a fuckin mouse
dense fulcrum
true kek
vapid tiger
lol yeah
vapid tiger
yeah the soak is a pain as you have to snuggle under his hand and hope nobody dropped purple under that
jade hatch
Is it bad to macro recklessness to avatar?
vapid tiger
no
olive wraith
Is it bad to macro recklessness to avatar?
You’ll want a separate key for rek
jade hatch
Because cd will get desync?
dense fulcrum
why separate key
olive wraith
Ya
dense fulcrum
no you dont o.o
olive wraith
Rek cd is reduced via anger management
dense fulcrum
i just press the macro to activate reckless if avatar is on cd and it works
restive peak
Ye sometimes you'll wanna reck alone if you don't wanna send ava but know you can CDR reck back up
summer quail
why separate key
incase you want to not press avatar
olive wraith
For thane you can macro it to ravager
restive peak
It's not a common thing but it does happen
I mean you can do 98% of the difficulty in the game by just sending on CD tbh
Some of the CE logs I've seen hurt my brain
jade hatch
Does arms actually feel clunky in rotation in your guys opinion or am I just not used to it? Always play fury on my warrior
restive peak
Cuz you'll be past those crests soon anyway and that's legit what they're for
olive wraith
Does arms actually feel clunky in rotation in your guys opinion or am I just not...
I prefer fury
summer quail
Does arms actually feel clunky in rotation in your guys opinion or am I just not...
yea it's pretty clunky
brittle crow
Cuz you'll be past those crests soon anyway and that's legit what they're for
but you dont upgrade past 704
oh cuz that costs gilded
ok
restive peak
Ye like I'm already 1 slot from past those and it's the 701 belt lol
silent gazelle
Araz fucking sucks
dense fulcrum
araz and hunter fights lags af
undone flower
fury rework confirmed
wooden scarab
Guys i should always pop recklesness with bladestorm together right or should i just pop it if i have it
just did 4.2 on feels like i should do more
frac*
dense fulcrum
Guys i should always pop recklesness with bladestorm together right or should i ...
if you have less than 6-8 seconds on your cd maybe u want to hold bladestorm and pop with cd's otherwise just send it without cd up
at least is what i do
lean heart
i usually hold if theyre 10s apart
silent gazelle
oh man we can finally take our dog piss 8yards fear
wow I love all the useless shit Ive never used
undone flower
i always wanted to play roar+ spear btw (no)
lean heart
wow I love all the useless shit Ive never used
silent gazelle
I cant wait
undone flower
btw loboz is rank 1 on soulbinder
silent gazelle
god our class tree is so dog shit
everything but prot thane is a pretty dogshit design
lets be real
but we still love it
lean heart
true..
sullen dove
oh man we can finally take our dog piss 8yards fear
full spear and roar capstones
loboz build rising
lean heart
the agenda is agenda'ing
undone flower
He is the true Fury warrior
sullen dove
surely apex talents will rise
apex talent is s3 df tier
or make odyns do like 200% more damage
onslaught gets shot in the head cuz its just a different flavor of raging blow no one cares about
undone flower
apex talent : you have to play SMF
sullen dove
3 more hero talent talents tho sounds cool
imagine a vast majority of those are just gonna be our current tier sets
wouldnt mind dat
does just feel like a superior version of the hero talents we've been playing all xpac
undone flower
Yes I think they will slam some tiers obviously
sullen dove
this def the best version of slayer and thane
undone flower
How tf he is first with reckless abandon
sullen dove
game
undone flower
Next week I’ll play Loboz soulbinder build
upper trellis
i would totally play SMF just to mog two Thunderfury: Blessed Blade of the Windseekers
flat river
He is the true Fury warrior
4 more talents means odyns angle @dense elbow ? 👀
thick fossil
He is the true Fury warrior
I was looking at a build with that earlier. It's 1.4% less dps on 8 mobs than normal thane M+ build.
Let me see if I can find the sim
M+ Thane 2 is this:
undone flower
He doesn’t play VC
thick fossil
Was he using Slayer with OF?
spare steppe
we also dont know if there's going to be a rework
undone flower
Soulbinder is a slayer fight, adds don’t survive the bladestorm
The big add fiesta in the middle does, but you are stuck with thane ST for the rest
If you bet on this pad
His build
thick fossil
Bloodborne for 10% more damage to OF. heh
olive wraith
imagine a vast majority of those are just gonna be our current tier sets
Tb resets pls
sullen dove
w
ivory ingot
thick fossil
His build
Weird
Slayer with those talents is not looking good. lol
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wSYZnABh5wweuXUZ7Vcb2g
sullen dove
i mean ur not comparing its aoe on a 5min sim ur comparing it on like a 20 second sim where the adds instantly die after
assuming talking about soulbinder still
sullen dove
to get r1 clearly
thick fossil
Snipe that pad! lol
balmy shore
u guys ever just...
olive wraith
Mood
cursive pivot
quick question. are we still simming 5 targets for 90 sec? for M+?
i saw someone simming with 8 targets
restive peak
u guys ever just...
At least once a tier on every boss dude
coarse nest
north sky
im gonna be stuck on 3/4 this wentire week
feral ivy
am i losing dps if i switch from loom to balls
undone flower
Yes
feral ivy
err i ment if its a lot or nah
undone flower
If you don’t have bladestorm = you have 0 stack of overwhelmed on the new target, you don’t have a 2p
- frenzy
feral ivy
i just feel like im about to get called out for my dmg on balls its low dmg lol
mythic loom
vague sierra
praying for u
restive peak
Warrior brain giveth, warrior brain taketh away
undone flower
i just feel like im about to get called out for my dmg on balls its low dmg lol
I don’t hit a single ball and I’m not called out (I soak pylons), we didn’t kill it in the few pulls we did tho, but the second line died until p2
fast grail
Rolled 100 on heroic for BIS trinket hero track
balmy shore
Warrior brain giveth, warrior brain taketh away
true....................
mental jolt
Yo if i have a crafted sword can i just upgrade it with spark? guide says make axe but arent all crafted the same?
balmy shore
yea u can just use your already crafted axe w new spark
mental jolt
i dont have an axe i have a sword
balmy shore
i dont have an axe i have a sword
there's no difference between crafted sword/axe u can use either
static rock
Does anyone remember what % damage increase season 2's tier set was?
junior gale
0
olive wraith
It was tiny
static rock
like less than 5% from the old tier?
raven oxide
its this trink any good?
summer quail
Does anyone remember what % damage increase season 2's tier set was?
iirc a bit over 3%
thick fossil
<a:LETSGOOO:770741530805796874>
bitter palm
thick fossil
Skipping council?
thick fossil
What did they change? It looked crazy on mythic, at least for the healers.
restive peak
Big nerfs, big upgrades/crafts/crests etc
lean nacelle
eyyy my first rank 1 parse
thick fossil
Calling it now, we'll most likely see a nerf to Dimensius before RWF kill it.
slim coral
Skipping council?
Until fract dies yes
thick fossil
Well, kick his ass then.
tepid cedar
almost thereeeeeeee
chilly fractal
almost thereeeeeeee
Got the feeling like you ain’t even trying
This is you in your normal state
modest talon
where can i find the rotation and prio for m+ thane?
chilly fractal
WoWhead has it iirc
young swan
oh man we can finally take our dog piss 8yards fear
this just means no new talent rows
im pretty sure
tepid cedar
Got the feeling like you ain’t even trying
u get any more done?
tepid cedar
Got the feeling like you ain’t even trying
dude we did deathless. no deaths on mail... got to menagerie and helaer got kileld on the drums. finsihed it with only that death. so depressing
dude, far and nox.... like this is such an insane gap...
restive peak
15s seem pretty free tbh, I think it's just that 90% of people aren't pushing and their groups are lol
restive peak
Yeah lol
DK dc'd for 95secs before 1st priory boss earlier and we had to just afk, still clean timed
tepid cedar
ur eu though arent u lincc
tepid cedar
ohh hahahaha
restive peak
Wish I were EU NA sucks
junior gale
LOL
limber oar
mythic soulbinder 1 shot
and mythic loomy down
took only 2 p2s once the ranged actually starting hitting the tangles 
gilded pawn
@limber oar are you the fan of serafim yunjin
theres a serafim concert about an hour away from me soon
160 dollars
should i go
limber oar
<@138003170075869185> are you the fan of serafim yunjin
yes and yes
im a bit of a kpop fan
named my DH Huntrixfan lmfao
limber oar
ya i heard
honestly i dont like concerts but i wanna go to one
they never do any where im from
iron holly
whats the name of the weakaura for sudden death?
upper trellis
theres a few, im using Fury Slayer Execute Conditions
flint flame
prisma crow
Dungeon splice no?
open wigeon
Bruh why im so dogshit as fury
I usually does more damage as fury when iam fully focused on not wasting any GCD, maybe it's your problem too
balmy shore
watch ur gameplay back
frosty edge
like its so unlucky for me. thunder blast doesnt proc frequently
sullen dove
be like squimshmmsmhsmsmshmshm to parse 100
yea its only like 33% can get a bit of an unlucky streak
try to he hittin bt on cd to get as many tbs as possible
balmy shore
be like squimshmmsmhsmsmshmshm to parse 100
sullen dove
u hit rb way less often as thane and like RARELY hit execute if ever