Unless it’s sim bait
#fury
spare steppe
remote bobcat
but this is one of the worst designed raids for melee ever
and we dont have lust or brez
remote bobcat
Unless it’s sim bait
yea but people tend to warn others of simbait
echo rapids
but this is one of the worst designed raids for melee ever
Ehhhh
void kernel
Yeppers, my CPM have gone from mid 40's (from last toon) to mid 70's on the fury warrior, hard on the wrist ha ha.
remote bobcat
bosses are either painful to play as melee or they are target dummies
both are lame
echo rapids
I wouldn’t want to be playing a caster on some of these bosses
Forgeweaver second phase must feel like doo doo
hardy shuttle
Feel like other than dimensius p1 hitbox and soul hunters i haven't felt too bad
echo rapids
The hitboxes are an issue on several bosses
void kernel
So far cleared all bosses on heroic except Frac, hasn't been too bad. My worst complaint is the size of some of the hit boxes, especially on Loom.
echo rapids
Also is wow Analyzer up to date?
void kernel
Yes, @echo rapids agreed, the hitboxes need to be sized up on a few of the bosses.
sterile stratus
Dim p1 hit box is so incredibly small for such a giant fucking boss
spare steppe
but this is one of the worst designed raids for melee ever
Which ones are particularly brutal?
warm crag
Also is wow Analyzer up to date?
it should just say when you try to use it
spare steppe
P1 dim and maybe council
hardy shuttle
Yes, <@135928564779319296> agreed, the hitboxes need to be sized up on a few of ...
And the pylon things in forge need either their hitbox to be bigger, or charge to not take you in so far 
warm crag
someone with a b in this discord was maintaining it last sesaon but idk if they bothered
remote bobcat
charging forgeweavers' arcane collectors kills you with beams so u cant do it + it knocks u back randomly for no reason if you step too close
dimensius hitbox is one of the worst ive ever seen
soul hunters actively participate in social distancing - covid19 isnt behind us after all
Plexus Sentinel, Loomithar and Fractillus are complete target dummies
Soulbinder Naazindhri is aight. But the knocks suck.
Nexus King is the ONLY good fight that's actually fun for melee.
echo rapids
Charge knockback 😵💫
warm crag
ive charged collectors with no issue wdym
sterile stratus
Yes
void kernel
I like charging in on Loom and then still not being in range, because the hitbox is just that small
remote bobcat
ive charged collectors with no issue wdym
yea you can charge them but only at good timings or else a beam is unavoidable and u die on mythic
echo rapids
it should just say when you try to use it
The report is saying I have bad executes but I’m not sure
warm crag
sullen dove
balls
chilly fractal
We should see if we can get Blizzard to buff the hitbox of Dimensius
warm crag
The report is saying I have bad executes but I’m not sure
does it say it is maintained
remote bobcat
i have done that before actually lolol
unborn delta
k*ll y**rs*elf
chilly fractal
And remove his arms
echo rapids
does it say it is maintained
What does that mean
unborn delta
is bloked
hardy shuttle
If youre fast enough slayer charge back to the boss and the dot goes away
unborn delta
i bet
sterile stratus
I'm assuming this is because of the k y thing
warm crag
What does that mean
when you plug in a log it should say whether its maintained or not
oblique trail
Spongie toxic yet again
warm crag
iirc when i tried it earlier it said its not actively being maintained
unborn delta
🫃
void kernel
Hitbox on Loom, Dimensius , and the pylons so when you charge them you don't get knocked back immediately. No reason they should be that small at all.
echo rapids
Oh ok
sinful spoke
blue scythe with voide edge matches this mog so nicely
echo rapids
We couldn’t get the WA to work on fract so it was actually a little engaging
dapper goblet
We should see if we can get Blizzard to buff the hitbox of Dimensius
you will parry and you will like it
sinful spoke
<#238066915187097600> no ?
i aint doin allat
dapper goblet
melee scum
oblique trail
No way Dimensius parries
warm crag
he does
sinful spoke
No way Dimensius parries
:)
warm crag
its very funny
echo rapids
I like that when people fuck up on nexus king start we get to kill tbem
More satisfying
remote bobcat
No way Dimensius parries
ofc he does
sinful spoke
blizzard hates melee
sterile stratus
S1 with it's add timers so prefect we had to get nerfed into dirt
forest ginkgo
Have they nerfed the screams of forgotten sky?
sterile stratus
And it still didn't stop us
sinful spoke
being nerfed doesnt mean the season is bad
yes it does
remote bobcat
yes it does
yea ur dumb then
sinful spoke
we literally got gutted
sinful spoke
yea ur dumb then
ur momma
echo rapids
TWW is honestly all kinds of fucked up, s3 gets a void raid right before a literal void expansion
remote bobcat
you can complain about patch notes but the season itself was fire
fury felt great in NP
sinful spoke
TWW is honestly all kinds of fucked up, s3 gets a void raid right before a liter...
its called set up
echo rapids
You can tell their whole plan got upended
sterile stratus
Tww cinematic was kinda misleading lol.
vivid slate
Since I Never had that Kind of Problem because I Never Mained prot and I crafted 1H Main Hand Sword.
Are there downsides, when i wear an 1H and a 2H off Hand ?
Or Vice versa ?
warm crag
yeah you're wearing a 1h sword
echo rapids
Tww cinematic was kinda misleading lol.
Wow a 10 mile long sword anyway
vivid slate
So 1H Fury isnt a thing ?
remote bobcat
Since I Never had that Kind of Problem because I Never Mained prot and I crafted...
yea the downside if you will not be doing any damage
oblique trail
You gain neither the benefit of SMF (if you even talent it) or the extra stats from the 2hander
vivid slate
Okay ty, I was just curious since you could drop 1H weapons as Fury last time I played it
sinful spoke
So 1H Fury isnt a thing ?
dont listen to kronze 1h fury is lowkey op
remote bobcat
Okay ty, I was just curious since you could drop 1H weapons as Fury last time I ...
you still can and its awful
cursive stump
Do we go beyond DR on mastery?
pseudo kite
Is it only me or your sims also asking you to replace DISC belt with 704 Ilvl Heroic one? I thought we were keeping it longer?
oblique trail
But depending on your options, it can be better to use the 1hander simply due to sheer ilvl difference
remote bobcat
dont listen to kronze 1h fury is lowkey op
oblique trail
But depending on your options, it can be better to use the 1hander simply due to...
In which case you'd just sim to get a quick view whether it's worth it or not 👍
olive wraith
Smf is roughly 10% worse
vivid slate
Was a Hard struggle since I Mainly Play Prot for m+ but my Guild Needs Me as fury
vivid slate
So I have to wear dodo 704 weapons
restive saffron
how % is difference between 2p and 4p for slayer fury?
is there a graph that i can find?
sinful spoke
how % is difference between 2p and 4p for slayer fury?
like treefiddy
jovial dagger
change loot spec to arms permanently
this
sterile stratus
Roughly 7ish
restive saffron
7%?
random estuary
7 dps
sand crest
yeah 7 flat
sand crest
: (
random estuary
theres like that one speadsheet thats like here right
o cant embed links or something
olive wraith
2>4p is the smaller increase
random estuary
copy paste that into browser i guess
olive wraith
2p is super strong for slayer
random estuary
nvm didnt see it pasted weird
olive wraith
7% sounds about right cause I think 2p was around 10-13
sullen dove
Smf is roughly 10% worse
def not that much 😭
was less than that last season like including bis and shit
no special 2handers this time
olive wraith
Idk when I did a quick sim it seemed like it
olive wraith
I did
sullen dove
olive wraith
And then had 720 crafted weps for both
There’s a chance I did something wrong. Wasn’t super invested
smoky vale
gm slamtaga
lapis shadow
remote bobcat
2min trinket tho :( feelsbadman
sullen dove
for a 1 miunute sim yea sure
smoky vale
idol isnt that bad to use
sullen dove
its more stats lol (or not ig)
coarse nest
I will take the hit on overall
sullen dove
- prolly better stats than crit
smoky vale
ssordush
remote bobcat
im heavily overcapped on haste and frenzied outsims powerful enrage by 40k
smoky vale
hai
smoky vale
im heavily overcapped on haste and frenzied outsims powerful enrage by 40k
i have 28k mastery
balling
marble pilot
Frenzied beat powerful for me by about 25k. Which isnt enough for me to care. I prefer powerful
remote bobcat
baller
charred tulip
Question: For m+ builds, has anyone been playing around with thunderous roar vs spear? What is working better for people?
smoky vale
they both suck
marble pilot
I hear more use roar. But because you gotta move packs so much in the dungeons that the root on spear is kinda trolling
remote bobcat
Question: For m+ builds, has anyone been playing around with thunderous roar vs ...
spear sims higher but harder to pull off cuz awkward
random estuary
spear is too annoying so i use roar 🙂
smoky vale
pick what you like
sullen dove
either or for thane (usually spear) but slayer just roar
sullen dove
and
remote bobcat
schnappi
smoky vale
this me
sullen dove
unborn delta
spear sims higher but harder to pull off cuz awkward
i been using spear. its nice with a vdh to group the pull but ass otherwise
hollow leaf
idol isnt that bad to use
anything is better than transmitter
wispy bridge
i kinda miss transmitter in a weird way
bleak tundra
Any1 have any tips for doing taza hardmode as fury? any good talents for it, or just regular m+ build?
wispy bridge
Dont die xD
pseudo kite
Just a curiosity: Is it only me or your sims also asking you to replace DISC belt with 704 Ilvl Heroic one? I thought we were keeping it longer?
iron portal
Show sim
quiet breach
Any1 have any tips for doing taza hardmode as fury? any good talents for it, or ...
swap builds on a boss by boss basis, use regular m+ build for trash
u can change talents whenever u want in hard mode
wispy bridge
Any1 have any tips for doing taza hardmode as fury? any good talents for it, or ...
use m+ talents for trash, spec go raid mt or st before every boss and know the machnics inside and out. Its much more a mechanics and persistance check then a skill check
quiet breach
use m+ talents for trash, spec go raid mt or st before every boss and know the m...
some bosses m+ thane is better on the boss even
wispy bridge
true
brittle crow
isnt that only hunters
tender sky
socketed heroic belt must barely eek it out 🤷♂️
pseudo kite
I hear people talking and saying we would keep it till way later in the cycle and now I am getting this results hehehe Just wanted to double check if I am not doing anything wrong. Same results with other fight lenghts. It only asks me to go back to DISC on Single target raid spec / 1 boss - 5 mins
stuck bison
hello. is ''slayer sudden death conditions'' in wa page of wowhead up to date for this season ?
winter shoal
hello. is ''slayer sudden death conditions'' in wa page of wowhead up to date fo...
Yes
winter shoal
Hello Giovanni 5 7
forest swallow
Yooo! with slayer and with Anger management, how often or at all do you hit rage cap? And how much of dps loss is it?
Especially when you prioritize 2 Sudden Deaths and 3 marked for executions?
rocky rover
dps sucks ass atm. i think its a skill issue with new rotation anyone got a decent website or link so I can understand it better? I have 4 set and played slayer using top parser tallents from warcraftlogs
coarse nest
One of my guildies was saying he heard hard mode is tuned around a +8 difficulty health and damage wise. Is that remotely true?
warm crag
One of my guildies was saying he heard hard mode is tuned around a +8 difficulty...
should be ~10
but realistically its a bit easier since you can respec between pulls and lust every boss
coarse nest
Got it makes sense that it would be 10
rocky rover
I do but I cant seem to pull it up let me keep trying
rocky rover
do you have a log of you playing in raid
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/9QpP3WqCgLNKfFvD amalekai is me Heroic on i have 4 set
raven pagoda
Hello, I have a question: are we limited in our haste or if I can get 50% off, so much the better?
iron portal
Think it is mostly due to to fact that it is short sim against 5 targets, on my 5 min single target sim delve belt still pulls ahead by quite alot
@pseudo kite
I will still stick with it until I have mythic track one
clever path
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/KH1jFhnkcXtfBydV?fight=28&type=damage-done I’m Râdke on the logs, I’m new to fury dps, was playing prot last season, ik I can improve a lot here, just confused on what to press some times
unreal meadow
Quick question and sorry for asking,but for m+ do i need to tab target to snipe adds with BT or can i focus big add and gain the dmg bonus from cleave?
undone flower
sullen dove
should just apply to any target under 35%
undone flower
Yes you can stick to your main target
sullen dove
sure its "stronger" if you maintarget a sub 35 than if you just cleave one onto it but that difference is like giga insignificant
unreal meadow
Tyty!
coarse nest
glue to the prio target except to kick
unreal meadow
Not to knowledgeable with fury yet,was curious how that worked tho
spare steppe
One of my guildies was saying he heard hard mode is tuned around a +8 difficulty...
I had heard a 10
radiant terrace
how did you get it? I'm still at 3/4
quiet breach
One of my guildies was saying he heard hard mode is tuned around a +8 difficulty...
it was significantly harder than any +10 I did
when I did it on monday
I fullcleared
rich karma
What is better for mythic +, eradicating arcanocore or improvised seaforium pacemaker?
warm crag
link
young swan
link
oblique thistle
What is better for mythic +, eradicating arcanocore or improvised seaforium pace...
young swan
spec is so doomed
young swan
if echo continue with their current comp, this will be the first time since revvez joined the roster at the end of wod that echo havent played a dps warrior on the end boss
storm birch
if echo continue with their current comp, this will be the first time since revv...
Oh shoot
warm crag
if echo continue with their current comp, this will be the first time since revv...
he got axed again?
steel shard
yes
chilly fractal
We just have to pull for Method now
young swan
need archi to write a sensationalist article about the downfall of dps warrior and how its so bad even the best warrior player in the world isnt getting play because our class is routinely stripped of its niches and have them given to other classes
chilly fractal
They had Dan in for every fight but the DHs I think?
marble pilot
need archi to write a sensationalist article about the downfall of dps warrior a...
Shut down the discord until we get 5% buffs
steel shard
time to shut down the warrior dps channels
chilly fractal
Ah nah he wasn’t in for salad
young swan
yeah
exactly
every spec has execute
every spec has 0 st loss for aoe
every spec has 5 target cleave
marble pilot
Well some specs have some pretty bad talents for st vs aoe
steel shard
every spec has 5 target softcap
young swan
left to rot
woven valley
Hope they rework all of warrior for midnight
steel shard
idk just reroll
warm crag
left to rot
signet was the start of the downfall
woven valley
I mean I’m a warrior main, and I’ll play it till the game dies or I do
chilly fractal
Same
woven valley
But I’ll still complain
limpid tusk
Ok. maybe im doing something wrong but theres no way i do less dmg than i did last season... fury cant hit higher than a 19m burst yet i could do 35m last season on arms....
steel shard
wow guys arms has sick execute
meanwhile
assa rouges
you do 30% more dam below 35% hp
OK
placid crane
bloodthirst have a higher prio over raging blow when we get 4 pce?
woven valley
I mean the class just needs big changes, we have had the same abilities since inception and they’ve taken 99 percent of new stuff away
marble pilot
bloodthirst have a higher prio over raging blow when we get 4 pce?
For thane yes. Or Slayer when 6+targets
woven valley
Spear being made into a talent is criminal
limpid tusk
I mean the class just needs big changes, we have had the same abilities since in...
It feels like ass.. i'm doing 18m burst in my 14 FG... and the eveoker doign 45m and the hunter doind 38m
The ret in my 14 gamibt doing 35m while "ret is in the dumps" and i cant touch over 19
young swan
its definitely possible
limpid tusk
its definitely possible
Has anything changed from PTR to here?
young swan
Has anything changed from PTR to here?
not a thing
limpid tusk
and what was the ilvl on PTR?
marble pilot
I still have fun as fury.
young swan
like 707 scaled depending on the key
limpid tusk
like 707 scaled depending on the key
what key was it.
limpid tusk
even then who gives a shit about 25m when every other class is doing double that.
young swan
well i mean
oblique thistle
Lock the channel archi
young swan
given that last season fury couldnt even break 15m
i think 25 is quite nice
ur comparing apples to oranges
oblique thistle
Fury is fine this season
limpid tusk
yeah for fury maybe yet arms was doing way more and now it cant even be played.
oblique thistle
Last season it was dumpster sludge
limpid tusk
Fury is fine this season
so why are we on fury in keys.
limpid tusk
not even in the slightest.
midnight sierra
4 pc thane is giga dopamine
oblique thistle
Dunno why you're even here
midnight sierra
just wish we weren’t capped on most things
limpid tusk
just wish we weren’t capped on most things
tahts all im saying.
marble pilot
Im having more fun as fury this season than any point this xpac.
Sure others burst more. But after those 30seconds we catch up
woven valley
Thane tier has to be new hero talents
midnight sierra
tahts all im saying.
It’s still fun though
marble pilot
If my fun was based on the numbers in details then I would FOTM every season
hardy shuttle
not even in the slightest.
limpid tusk
Im having more fun as fury this season than any point this xpac.
Sure others bu...
in what key level? lol theirs no catching the 45m adn 40m dks and hunters in 14+
midnight sierra
I was cranking 21-22 on the first pull of gambit and hit the lottery I swear I haven’t had that rush in a very long time
Turned into Thor
warm wharf
I wanna be thor but dawnbreaker and hoa won't drop helm/chest so i can cata for 4 set 
woven valley
I still want ravager to do constant lighting strikes when it hits
Could literally become the storm god
stoic echo
woven valley
Or bladestorm either way
stoic echo
Thane is so cool
no u
marble pilot
in what key level? lol theirs no catching the 45m adn 40m dks and hunters in 14+
This is current highest rated dps. 2 out of the top 5 are fury
marble pilot
Just saying. There is also an arms at 13. and another fury at 44
stoic echo
but yeah fury feels amazing, consistent damage and really tanky
limpid tusk
This is current highest rated dps. 2 out of the top 5 are fury
io doesnt equate to how the class does.
olive wraith
Lukewarm take. Fury shouldn’t be uncapped aoe
limpid tusk
Lukewarm take. Fury shouldn’t be uncapped aoe
i'm fine with being capped.... then buff the 5 target dmg.
olive wraith
Our 5t is pretty massive rn
limpid tusk
but yeah fury feels amazing, consistent damage and really tanky
agreed the damage is consistent.
olive wraith
What i would like to see is funnel
heavy galleon
as thane you BT > RB in all situation ?
stoic echo
yes unless you need enrage
olive wraith
as thane you BT > RB in all situation ?
Yes
marble pilot
Not saying we dont need work. But we also have no reason to doom this season. At least not early on. Maybe we will get outscaled as ilvl increases. But right now we are doing just fine.
heavy galleon
even on ST BT is better than RB ?
stoic echo
if both thunder blast (1 stack only) and BT have 1 gcd cooldown
heavy galleon
ok ok
olive wraith
Bt always better than rb for thane
stoic echo
go for BT and then thunder blast
oh raging blow
i read rampage
in my head
it's funny that ionizing strikes + thunderblast is ~35%+ of our total overall
hardy shuttle
If ionizing strikes all went to your primary target, it would go so crazy. Insane prio while clapping
woven valley
If ionizing strikes all went to your primary target, it would go so crazy. Insan...
This can be fixed by just making the strikes hit the main target as well as echo randomly on other targets. Would add a bit of flare and damage
Would add prio and keep aoe as is
hardy shuttle
I dont think we need even more ionizing strike damage. Just it all being funneled into main target would be insane
Thunder blast is doing all the aoe we need
midnight sierra
Lukewarm take. Fury shouldn’t be uncapped aoe
But why
pine mural
anyone got a weakaure for when the 4 piece resets thunderblast? My thunderblast weakaura is slightly delayed so i usually end up sending my next GCD before it lights back up
warm crag
But why
why should it be capped
they have clearly proven they cannot tune around that properly
modest condor
anyone got a weakaure for when the 4 piece resets thunderblast? My thunderblast ...
your weakaura isnt delayed, that's just how long it takes to proc
midnight sierra
why should it be capped
I’m arguing that it should be uncapped completely
heavy galleon
so Thunder blast > rampagne > BT > RB
warm crag
oh sorry re responded to wrong person
marble pilot
Imo no one should be capped and dungeons should be built to force pull sizes that they want us to do.
But I dont hate the idea of funnel vs uncapped aoe. But then it has to actually exist
limpid tusk
Imo no one should be capped and dungeons should be built to force pull sizes tha...
like shadow lands
stoic echo
your weakaura isnt delayed, that's just how long it takes to proc
Hope they change that
olive wraith
I think funnel fits better for fury
At least it makes more sense to give us funnel since they don’t want us to uncapped
midnight sierra
But we don’t have funnel lmao and we’re capped
modest condor
Hope they change that
yeah it's annoying
midnight sierra
I don’t even understand why they capped anyone in the first place
young swan
At least it makes more sense to give us funnel since they don’t want us to uncap...
they could literally just give us the tools to actually giga-fuck in 5 target
and it would be fine
olive wraith
Right. Im saying give us funnel instead of uncapped
young swan
i used to be on the funnel train but i dont think that fits fury
just thematically
they just need to give us tools to where we have windows where we can be uncapped
ie, during reck, after bladestorm, after OF
shit like that
and they need to remove the 5 target soft cap from OF and BS
fickle cedar
shit slaps i love this set hope they dont bat it
coarse nest
what key?
fickle cedar
12 flood
hardy shuttle
I think the coolest thing they could do for class fantasy would be giving us berserker and battle stance. And berserker stance would add an additional hp cost to make our skills fuck hard.
night cedar
Or just give us more utility
woven valley
I wanna do more damage the more damage I’ve taken over the fight
coarse nest
just imagine the degeneracy
finite salmon
For 4p slayer AoE do I use BT with 6+ targets?
woven valley
I mean ambient damage would make it work too and it would have an internal cd so you couldn’t just sit in stuff
But I love the beserker fantasy
Plus with Amani trolls coming back
steel shard
I was cranking 21-22 on the first pull of gambit and hit the lottery I swear I h...
rogues do that with no cds
woven valley
Beserkers gonna be everywhere
compact knot
sterile stratus
My only complaint is that if you are unlucky with procs it feels so bad
echo rapids
When it goes it GOES
coarse nest
@tepid cedar 14 gambit
calm swallow
shit slaps i love this set hope they dont bat it <:critcake:984549832511344640>
Thane?
calm swallow
<@665442766322401290> 14 gambit
coarse nest
youll have to pardon the execute i fight my brain the entire key to not press that button
i like execute
lmao
sterile stratus
I wish marked for execution was instead a buff you got instead of a debuff the enemy got.
Would make slayer less of a pain in the ass in keys
echo rapids
I actually really like 4p slayer too
heavy galleon
ok
echo rapids
Our cleave without losing much single target is great
heavy galleon
rampage is prio when you are not enrage
potent sphinx
Whats the new prio on 4p slayer?
midnight sierra
rogues do that with no cds
This is true unfortunately yeah
viscid condor
any recs for ww tracker with mob count
potent sphinx
With some rampage and execute sprinkled in
Alright so just more focus on rb unless 80%< Bt or 2 stacks exec
echo rapids
any recs for ww tracker with mob count
The luxthos WA pack has one
echo rapids
Alright so just more focus on rb unless 80%< Bt or 2 stacks exec
The bloodthirst tracker is gone now, we barely press BT
Or did you mean in aoe
spare steppe
Alright so just more focus on rb unless 80%< Bt or 2 stacks exec
BT is gone unless >6 targets
Check Wowhead
undone flower
MASSIVE first kill
steel shard
warm wharf
why is it still so impossible to get into an ecodome? i get invited for other keys just fine but that one is hell
fading sky
why is it still so impossible to get into an ecodome? i get invited for other ke...
U wanna know?
U rly wanna know?
Has insane caster trinkies
warm wharf
then how are hunters/monks/dh getting invited
tepid cedar
<@665442766322401290> 14 gambit
There you go
warm crag
charge just force charged me into loomithar web tangle
get cooked noob
steel shard
then how are hunters/monks/dh getting invited
Because they are not godawful warriors
coarse nest
I like to execute bosses
for the last hit
thats why you always see like 5-10 on my log
lmao
full portal
is the primary stat gem better than another secondary stat one?
tepid cedar
lol
tepid cedar
I like to execute bosses
One thing I been doing and it’s noticeably better dps
tepid cedar
Is that when reck and rava come up. I f there’s a tb I will not cast reck and rava together
coarse nest
so lost a good chunk of overall
remote bobcat
everyone charges it
brittle crow
charge just force charged me into loomithar web tangle
one day you will realize the way
tangles are a ranged problem
brittle crow
simply ignore them
tepid cedar
I will pop tb and maybe a quick bt then rava
brittle crow
call your raid lead stupid and fat and smelly
remote bobcat
"idc if its bad for ur spec"
brittle crow
thats what i do and it works
warm crag
leap or walk it you muppet
coarse nest
I will pop tb and maybe a quick bt then rava
ye try to min max all the TB incase you proc
remote bobcat
leap or walk it you muppet
fuck no
tepid cedar
Takes a little getting used to but it’s good
coarse nest
i like that
warm crag
you do not get to complain about dying to tangles if you charge them
brittle crow
cuz ur dying
remote bobcat
no
brittle crow
or just learn to charge better
remote bobcat
im complaining about the mechanic being shit
brittle crow
its that easy really
remote bobcat
cuz it works 99% of the time
tepid cedar
ye try to min max all the TB incase you proc
Yea desyncic reck and rava by 5-10 sec ain’t bad for that extra dps
Especially in 5t or less
torpid cypress
it work 100% of the time dont hold w
brittle crow
dont hold S either strafe away from it
also the real secret is dont have ping lol
whats ur ping ingame
stoic echo
wait we play roar?
dry aspen
i'm really confused. how can you use rampage at 115+ rage and not be constantly overcapping rage? it feels like i'm constantly overcapping when trying to use it at 115+
remote bobcat
i'm really confused. how can you use rampage at 115+ rage and not be constantly ...
if you have 100 rage you click raging blow or execute instead
open wigeon
My highest stat is vers
coarse nest
i'm really confused. how can you use rampage at 115+ rage and not be constantly ...
started ignoring the 115> rage prio
and just spamming TB>BT as long as im enraged
more damage
in my experience
unborn patio
How close do you guys get on single target DPS compared to your sims? I sim around 3.9m but I can’t ever get over 2.8m.. could minor mistakes in rotation make that happen? I feel like I’ve got it down decently.
winter shoal
I sim a bit over 4.9, did 4.7 on fractillus
I misplayed a bit with my reck/bs timings tho
Well I sim a bit over 5m now but at the time it was 4.9
brittle crow
How close do you guys get on single target DPS compared to your sims? I sim arou...
def not
nova gorge
which embellishment for m+
brittle crow
ur doing something majorly wrong
unborn patio
Hmmm. I need to watch a rotational video or something I guess. Even on a training dummy I sustain about 2.9
brittle crow
slayer?
winter shoal
Well training dummy and sims are going to be different
unborn patio
ur doing something majorly wrong
Could you look at my log from last night?
Yes slayer
winter shoal
Sims will use lust and raid buffs and consumes
nova gorge
which embellishment for m+ / thane build
brittle crow
Yes slayer
how often are you pressing bloodthirst
don't ask me to look at logs im a dumbass with logs
i give vibes based advice
winter shoal
which embellishment for m+ / thane build
at this point probably ascension + writhing armor banding, later on probably double duskthread
nova gorge
okay ty <3
winter shoal
Could you look at my log from last night?
Try putting your logs in wowanalyzer
winter shoal
isn't wowanalyzer bad for warrio
No it's been updated since 11.0
unborn patio
Since it’s low priority
brittle crow
I don’t press BT hardly at all
on the contrary
you press it way too much
i go entire fights without pressing it once if i get lucky
winter shoal
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ZJqA1abrTzfxM4NQ?fight=36&type=damage-done&...
Pressing avatar during lust + damage amp would probably be a good idea
nova gorge
WWhat is the 4th slot augment beyond on weapon crafting
winter shoal
WWhat is the 4th slot augment beyond on weapon crafting
that's for the turbo boost extra ilvl thing
unborn patio
Pressing avatar during lust + damage amp would probably be a good idea
Lmao yea they lusted in a weird time
nova gorge
that's for the turbo boost extra ilvl thing
no idea so i leave it alone? :P
winter shoal
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ZJqA1abrTzfxM4NQ?fight=36&type=damage-done&...
Your enrage uptime is extremely low at 81.5%
mine was 96% on hc
unborn patio
Your enrage uptime is extremely low at 81.5%
Is that to bad timing of my rampages?
Obviously I guess
winter shoal
Could be downtime, could be bad rage management, could be inefficient use of reck
clever path
Your enrage uptime is extremely low at 81.5%
Could you look into my log and roast me rq? I’m not doing well
winter shoal
0 exceptions
some exceptions
refreshing AJ is higher prio if it will fall off within that gcd
restive peak
We have a log review section bois
winter shoal
Could you look into my log and roast me rq? I’m not doing well
I will look for five (5) mins and no longer
winter shoal
Plug your logs into wowanalyzer
I've spent hours updating it so I don't have to manually review peoples' logs anymore
unborn patio
Hmmm ok.
restive peak
Bigbowl can you spend hours manually on me?
coarse nest
bowl maintains it
restive peak
brittle crow
refreshing AJ is higher prio if it will fall off within that gcd
i mean, if u get to this spot in the first place u fucked up
unborn patio
Is there a good video that shows the rotation that you know of
winter shoal
Bigbowl can you spend hours manually on me?
Come to the states bud
brittle crow
we get so many SD procs that you should never be at risk of dropping
restive peak
Come to the states bud
On my way
winter shoal
Is there a good video that shows the rotation that you know of
I think madox has a video idk
restive peak
unborn patio
Okay cool. Thanks yall
olive wraith
Oxxy might too
marble brook
guys someone have a build for the dh boss?
unborn patio
I’m basically pressing Rampage as it runs out or over 115 rage, pressing RB, execute with mfe, etc
Maybe I’m not using my cooldowns correctly or often enough
unborn patio
So WoWA said I had 85% uptime on Fractilus.. that’s gotta be killing me
I think maybe if I get a mechanic I stop focusing on DPS
limber oar
Fraccy more than any other boss
unborn patio
Melee probs
limber oar
Needs to be 100%
remote bobcat
So WoWA said I had 85% uptime on Fractilus.. that’s gotta be killing me
that boss is a target dummy u should have 100% uptime
limber oar
cause its a still boss with an egregiously large hitbox
unborn patio
Yeah I agree
remote bobcat
if you move close when u get walls then you get to stay in melee during the knockback
unborn patio
I gotta practice moving and doing mechanics while still playing the game lol
remote bobcat
if yo uget the break u should maxrange the hitbox so u can charge back asap
if you get an edge break you can stand towards the wall
u will only get knocked a lil bit into the wall
the edge walls, not player walls***
i hope u improve ur uptime good sir
unborn patio
Thanks man @remote bobcat
limber oar
Thanks man <@294878943004327952>
In the future btw, since it sounds like youre new to warrior/dps/the game (not flaming just an observation). 95% of dps issues come down to gear choice, uptime, or a strong misunderstanding of button priority.
So if youre trying to diagnose your own issues in the future, start from those
cyan palm
What is the Bloodthirst prio in ST Slayer Fury talents?
Coz this is the only thing that eludes me
limber oar
With new tier?
unborn patio
In the future btw, since it sounds like youre new to warrior/dps/the game (not f...
Yeah definitely not new to wow but new to melee.. it seems uptime is my main issue I need to fix!
willow cradle
I've spent hours updating it so I don't have to manually review peoples' logs an...
Thanks gamer
unborn delta
What is the Bloodthirst prio in ST Slayer Fury talents?
Press it if nothing else is pressable
cyan palm
Press it if nothing else is pressable
thank you very much. I was afraid that maybe I am missing some buff or something from BT
unborn patio
Do my gear choices look correct/make sense?
Tried to follow guides closely on that.
remote bobcat
dont follow guides for gear
willow cradle
Is it me or does wowanalyzer not factor in that you want to press RB before Rampage after BS
unborn patio
Ugh oh lol
warm crag
i dont think wowanalyzer is maintained rn
remote bobcat
always
unborn patio
So like if I get a piece of gear, just sim it with different enchants and stuff?
fading sky
Yeah definitely not new to wow but new to melee.. it seems uptime is my main iss...
Uptime is what u practice y playing safe only.makes u last on dps
remote bobcat
So like if I get a piece of gear, just sim it with different enchants and stuff?
raidbots.com is your friend
simulationcraft addon
yes
sim
dont follow guides
willow cradle
i dont think wowanalyzer is maintained rn
I dunno I checked it out cause of this #fury message
remote bobcat
you did a solid job
unborn patio
Uptime is what u practice y playing safe only.makes u last on dps
Yeah I use simcraft and raidbots
warm crag
ah ok it do be
unborn patio
But like
remote bobcat
but we just had someone earlier or yday who was extremely misled by what is best in slot for them
unborn patio
If I get a plate piece with a 10ilvl upgrade I normally just put it on 😂
unborn patio
Yeah I ain’t new enough to that lol
brittle crow
they sent a catalyst on a belt
wtf
what kind of guide says that
oh the wowhead guide does lol
bitter palm
well
fading sky
Imma do ring
fading sky
Not on fury
bitter palm
2 myth weapons with those 2 outdps ascendance
fading sky
In an 6/7m fight?
bitter palm
not sure about this tier ngl
remote bobcat
is technically bis
this technically bis bullshit
i hate it
i rly do
cuz it misleads new players
bitter palm
same
remote bobcat
bis lists are dumb in modern wow
fading sky
not sure about this tier ngl
Did last tier coz we had weapons with effects
fading sky
Deeepends
bitter palm
"hard"
fading sky
Never stop pullin
fading sky
Yes!!!
hasty lantern
what is my stack of overwhelmed ? what dos overwhelmed do ?
fading sky
Shit should not get worse
hasty lantern
i didnt find it anyware
fading sky
Read tooltip
young swan
slayer hero tree
bitter palm
first in the middle
fading sky
Hero talent
hasty lantern
overwhelmed blades kk
bitter palm
debuff on enemy that makes u deal more damage
feral ivy
in shadowlands why didnt anduin's father didnt show up??
hasty lantern
i searched for overwhelem
sullen dove
what
bitter palm
in shadowlands why didnt anduin's father didnt show up??
jailers master plan
rotund ginkgo
is it troll if my raid lead is putting me on 1st soak/focusing echo on araz mythic?
it feels troll
cyan palm
And while using AoE M+ MT build execute is similar DMG to raging blow right? Or am I missing something?
bitter palm
And while using AoE M+ MT build execute is similar DMG to raging blow right? Or ...
execute has 0 interactions
rb has a lot
remote bobcat
xdddd wowa aint up to date for shit
cyan palm
Thank you! So only for slayer in raids
feral ivy
is it troll if my raid lead is putting me on 1st soak/focusing echo on araz myth...
sadly just killed 1st boss mythic so cant comment but think it about it ur the ONLY one who can lol
sullen dove
remote bobcat
xdddd wowa aint up to date for shit
this should be "you clicked roar too much. this button sucks."
feral ivy
i use roar 1st boss mythic when im passing the adds lol
feral ivy
or on loomithar tangles
are u calling his balls tangles?
rotund ginkgo
sadly just killed 1st boss mythic so cant comment but think it about it ur the O...
i am not the only one who can lol
any1 knows how much damage do we lose by swapping targets and ruining frenzy?
remote bobcat
are u calling his balls tangles?
yea
oak bobcat
Hey friends, was just coming to ask about pre-pull mechanics, I am not sure what im doing wrong; Im at a dummy now also and I use reck + avatar at same time, charge and only get 48~ish fury, and never enough to use Rampage, and in my raids earlier, I used the same thing and had to raging blow 2 times before being able to sue first rampage, but other people i watch (one was revvez on fract prog) they get 80 rage on charge
proven stream
you need to be in combat first
on a dummy just taunt first or throw
and your macro needs to be reck BEFORE avatar
oak bobcat
ah okay! thank you smuch!
Not sure if right question or not, but also watching revvez he hardly ever used bloodthirsty, im guessing just let his bladestorm cast it, and also didnt use thunderous roar all that much on a ST fight, is it just a filler because raging blow is such high damage right now?
young swan
yeah pretty much
limber oar
Yes
obtuse palm
As far as opening in M+ as Thane with Cursed Idol, where do you fit in the trinket usage? With all CDs up
oak bobcat
^^ is fixed
oak bobcat
weird mechanic 😄
rotund ginkgo
if ur not in combat you'll do it and finish 79
no it isnt
reck doubles generation from rage
ava generates 20
20>40
oak bobcat
i changed it around and taunted dummy and gave me 80
rotund ginkgo
good
oak bobcat
good stuff now! tyty
obtuse palm
u can channel it mid charge
Thank you
bitter palm
i changed it around and taunted dummy and gave me 80
ye but might not want to taunt a boss
xdd
i just heroic throw reck ava charg
oak bobcat
tank problem if they dont taunt back in time
cyan palm
Oh, and about ST fury rotation in raids. I should try to align my Recklesness+avatar and bladestorm right?
Cos usually those CDs end up being like a few seconds apart from each other
proven stream
send on cd in most cases
u can hold bladestorm a little bit if u see they're gonna line up
not too much
olive wraith
You’ll be desynced a lot
young swan
Oh, and about ST fury rotation in raids. I should try to align my Recklesness+av...
just send shit unless if theres an add spawn soon
i dont even hold bladestorm with reck @ ~8s remaining
and neither does revvez
especially if you have marks + SD ready
cyan palm
Same goes for Avatar I guess? Coz it will also desync with bladestorm/ravager and recklessness
as Anger Management only lowers CD on ravager/Bladestorm and recklessness
young swan
u bet
stoic echo
You’ll be desynced a lot
just pray you get huge sudden death procs for everything to align nicely gg
cyan palm
Thank you! All clear now I think 😄
stoic echo
🙏
winter shoal
xdddd wowa aint up to date for shit
That's automatically calculated, I could fully remove it but roar is unironically a very high DPET ability on 2+ targets
stoic echo
best feeling is to get double bladestorm in BL avatar
remote bobcat
That's automatically calculated, I could fully remove it but roar is unironicall...
yea but on fractillus ?
winter shoal
i dont think wowanalyzer is maintained rn
It is; you would see a very large info modal saying otherwise if it wasnt
winter shoal
yea but on fractillus ?
I'm not manually adding a check for what fight the log is for to add or remove the cooldown efficiency calc of one ability
If you want to do that, be my guest
It's open source so knock yourself out
remote bobcat
nono thats not what i mean
quiet breach
Oh, and about ST fury rotation in raids. I should try to align my Recklesness+av...
your avatar will desync immediately, it doesn't have CDR unlike recklessness getting constant CDR from anger management and bladestorm getting constant CDR from anger management and execute procs. if reck is like 3 or 4 real seconds (not in-game seconds) away from lining up with bladestorm then wait for it and send both, otherwise just send desynces
remote bobcat
i just think it should exclude single target scenarios
if active tar = 1
dont press the buttonnnnnn
young swan
but thats not correct either
winter shoal
That's not how logs work
winter shoal
I mean it's possible to check for, but the juice isn't worth the squeeE
Squeeze
If you want to add that check, go for it
quiet breach
it is worth to wait to bladestorm adds tho I think
like on soulbinder you should be bladestorm every adds that come up
brittle monolith
is there a way to mute boss talking audio? like dimensius spam talking but still wanting to hear my swings hit
remote bobcat
i still think that the current troar check should get removed, replaced by a general "Thunderous Roar is very low on the single target priority - use it during multi-target situations or as a filler in ST"
or smth like that
tight roost
if using roar for MT m+ build would you pick the capstones or put the points into cruel strikes or sth else?
young swan
no capstones
brittle monolith
I also like hearing my gigachad warrior go apeshit
thats the whole point of warioring
tight roost
no capstones
cool, ty
quiet breach
I enjoy that thunderous roar is only used in MT
it ALWAYS felt weird using that in ST
like it felt like something you should only use aoe
ur literally hitting the enemies with a shockwave from how hard you stomp the ground
feels like something you would use only when surrounded by a bunch of baddies
tight roost
so what do ppl prefer instead? i guess 2% crit is pretty meh
instead of capstones that is
olive wraith
Crit is the only other option iirc
tight roost
wrecking/shattering throw also i guess with cd reduction on pummel
seems like all would be pretty minimal
effects wise
young swan
yeah all of our talents are bad
wooden scarab
So with us not using the crit weak aura for bloodthirst with the rotations this season. When should i hit bloodthirst i read the guide but for some reason i feel Like I may be messing it up
young swan
make sure u post about it on the official blizzard forums
quiet breach
when I go on my mage I have all these options I can pick for personal pref
on my warrior it's just
1 page xddd
young swan
So with us not using the crit weak aura for bloodthirst with the rotations this ...
u dont press it unless if you run out of raging blow, rampage, and execute
for slayer specifically
wooden scarab
what about thane i know i should be hitting it around 35% cause of the talent but what about before that
hollow leaf
yeah all of our talents are bad
based xan
quiet breach
what about thane i know i should be hitting it around 35% cause of the talent bu...
do u have 4 pc
wooden scarab
Yes
hollow leaf
what about thane i know i should be hitting it around 35% cause of the talent bu...
on cd
inside and outside of vc
wooden scarab
Alr sweet ill make sure to press it on cd with thane. and only press it when I run out of rb, rampage, and execute on slayer thanks guys.
quiet breach
Alr sweet ill make sure to press it on cd with thane. and only press it when I r...
holup this is ST only
young swan
what about thane i know i should be hitting it around 35% cause of the talent bu...
spam that shit
quiet breach
this is for multitarget
BT is above rampage always in MT unless you aren't enraged
quiet breach
make sure u know the difference @wooden scarab
wooden scarab
Alr ill make sure i practice this shit. I was hitting 7 mill overall in m+ but I wanna push that as far as i can
echo rapids
Spamming generators over spenders is peak design
oak garden
defuck what is this dmg pattern my DB is 2 and Rampage first
i dont get proccs that much
tepid cedar
Bt
bitter palm
thats why u spam bt
tepid cedar
I also squeeze a tb b4 ra share if up
And if in execute range tb if up and bt then ravager
tepid cedar
So recklessness (tb) bt in execute range.. ravager
bitter palm
adds more depth to the spec when to ramp
tepid cedar
Well enrage is prio if ur about to lose it
bitter palm
ye but like in s2 df for example
when u ramped for the damage
it felt so one dimensional and boring
tepid cedar
So ramp reck tb bt rava when possible to min max it
Last night I had 5t. Casts back to back it was fkn glorious
5 tb*
tepid cedar
Broke my arakara first pull which was previously 30 mil i hit 38 mill on that pull
tepid cedar
Assassin rogue said. Y’all really 5t!?!
olive wraith
tepid cedar
lol
bitter palm
Assassin rogue said. Y’all really 5t!?!
JA CLAPPA
bitter palm
Assassin rogue said. Y’all really 5t!?!
did 5 mil on 2nd boss priory
mage said wtf is fury
slayer fury moment
chilly fractal
Dude I love playing both man...
bitter palm
ye
tepid cedar
I was like damn I hit z3.94 on the 15 I timed and felt like a god
bitter palm
both are so good
tepid cedar
Yeah almost 4 mill on thane was nasty
bitter palm
i prefer slayer myself but thane fucks too
tepid cedar
Shit in both dhs
bitter palm
both play so well
tepid cedar
So slayer 100-% play on gambit after 1st add portion of dungeon
I tried a 16 gambit with slayer and that was a no go
tepid cedar
Too many adds so have to save teleport to quickly get out swap slayer and go back in
tepid cedar
Probably but I refuse to play arms
bitter palm
tepid cedar
I don’t have the gear for arms now anyways don’t have the crit stack yet
tepid cedar
😂😂
I do think when everyone gets closer to bis sets we will fall a tad bit. A 5% buff would be welcome instead of nerfing other classes
bitter palm
do u play powerful as thane
tepid cedar
From the 15s I’ve done. You can def see a diff in damage against the other classes but instead of nerf mentality buff others
(When the other classes are played properly) a shitter will not out dps now just bc their on a fdk like last season
oak garden
So ramp reck tb bt rava when possible to min max it
yeah mate i mean i play the prio right but my TB is way under Rampage
and BT
solar light
are you using avatar when you have 1/2 charges already
tepid cedar
Also you have to abuse our playstyle. A lot of folks forget when their target died then just attack the next target they click. Nahhh son you go straight to the add at 40% and lower
And abuse VC
oak garden
but then its like 1 porc every 8 BT
olive wraith
yeah mate i mean i play the prio right but my TB is way under Rampage
Spamming bt?
bitter palm
Also you have to abuse our playstyle. A lot of folks forget when their target d...
ramp the highest hp mob and mouseover bt
to keep frenzy and abuse vc
i am still using mouseover bt and exe
from sl days
fresh meat gameplay in sl
to keep enrage
tepid cedar
ramp the highest hp mob and mouseover bt
I tried but dude there’s sooo many fkn mobs now
bitter palm
ye true
tepid cedar
I was bt the wrong target
oak garden
i mean we have 35% Procc chance on BT for TB
and i need to cast 8 times or more for 1 proc
copper storm
Is there a macro for burst in Fury with M+ talents? I'm new to Warrior.
tepid cedar
Is there a macro for burst in Fury with M+ talents? I'm new to Warrior.
Just hit every key on your keyboard
lol jokes aside. All you really need is reck rav charge macro
copper storm
lol jokes aside. All you really need is reck rav charge macro
u can link?
oak garden
i mean TB
bitter palm
4p
oak garden
hm idk
bitter palm
ionizing strikes reset tb
oak garden
i play like normal opener TB/BT if enraged/Rampage if not enraged
bitter palm
log yourself hitting 5 dummies and send it
impossible to tell whats wrong
without seeing casts
spare steppe
From the 15s I’ve done. You can def see a diff in damage against the other class...
how did the slayer in 15 Streets go?
earnest canyon
How do you guys deal with the collectors on forgeweaver when they are ramping in energy? Do it as 3 split groups and kill them all? Kill 2 and then the 3rd?
Im talking about HC, not mythic and im in a casual guild with a massive mix of abilities/gear
edgy widget
on HC you mostly just kill one at a time; tanks split up and use adds to absorb the beam once they hit full energy
warm crag
you can just go to the one that gains accelerated charge and then follow the one that gains accelerated charge next
theres like a purple ring on the accelerated one
edgy widget
should kill the first before they reach full energy, second maybe slightly after, and so only the third needs to be soaked for any length of time
fossil orbit
Question, is OF worth taking on Soulbinder hc? Instead of Unbridled Ferocity or Depths of Insanity?