#fury

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sullen dove
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peak

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sumeru act 5 is cool everything else just kinda feels like it takes forever

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act 1 maybe is neat ish

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with the cycles

oblique trail
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Back to your home country of Fr*nce

sullen dove
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then ur just in the desert for 2 acts for no reason

young swan
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living that fight was so ass at <15 frames the whole time

warm crag
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yeah its not fun

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i was not swapping to the adds for swapping to the adds could have meant i would w key into the thing that kills me since i cant stop moving

devout totem
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got bis weapon 💰😤👍

sullen dove
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real

warm crag
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its definitely 100% bis

sullen dove
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bis world questing mace

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insta pick up loot

warm crag
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bis mace if you wanted 1 billion crit

chilly fractal
devout totem
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heroic

chilly fractal
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solid

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If I didn't get the sword and that mace out of heroic this week I'd still be farming M+ for a weapon

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55 M+ runs this week... 0 weapons

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granted I did do quite a few Halls and Ara which don't drop weapons but I also ran a lot of Floody Gs

toxic jewel
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would you guys say its worth dropping s2 2p helm/gloves for 701? i would sim it but for some reason its not working lol

chilly fractal
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you drop 4p for ilvl... don't think your sim will have you drop 2p for ilvl

echo rapids
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The weak link among the sets is season 2 4 set

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Sim had me drop it for heroic pieces immediately

chilly fractal
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^

toxic jewel
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so just rock double 2p til 4p?

echo rapids
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2 piece season 3 is quite strong as is 4 piece

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Probably yeah

toxic jewel
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roger that

echo rapids
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Goal should be to get 4 piece asap

toxic jewel
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oh ofc, i've had no luck tho

echo rapids
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Yeah I’ve done full normal and first wing on 2 characters and I’ve yet to see a boss drop more than 1 tier token

chilly fractal
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maybe I get a curio from heroic Dimensius if my guild can kill him tomorrow

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🙏

echo rapids
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I bet most people end up with 4 piece myth track almost entirely from converting or vaults

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Although sadly the first str 2 hander comes from the first actual hard boss

warm crag
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simmed better for me

echo rapids
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I think he was saying season 3

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Both season 2 bonus are kinda weak

toxic jewel
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i have s3 2p and s2 2p, asking if i drop s2 2p for ilvl lol

warm crag
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idk just sim it

echo rapids
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Summit

warm crag
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for me it was worth

toxic jewel
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yeah sim says "cant sim character without talents" lol

warm crag
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are you simming with a simc string or trying to import your character through armory

toxic jewel
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simc string

warm crag
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is it updated and are your talents in order

toxic jewel
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yes

warm crag
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check again

toxic jewel
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its all there xD

warm crag
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idk check for updates reinstall the addon its 99% user error

silk wharf
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Make sure you are actually talented. I encounter a bug occasionally that shows I'm talented one way but in reality it's another.

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Like, don't just look at the talent page. Switch off the talents and back.

toxic jewel
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yeah i got it to work now, reinstalled it

indigo arch
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2pc 2pc was hundreds of thousands of dps for me in every catagory, so i'd wager yea 2pc 2pc

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4pc to go thane is pending

toxic jewel
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shows dropping s2 2p is a .02m dps upgrade lol

chilly fractal
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yea I just ran another sim and it says I go to 0p S2 even if I get no S3 tier next week

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fun

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704 ilvl beats it out

silent gazelle
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wait is 2pc/2pc better than 4pc for M+?

young swan
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definitely not

silent gazelle
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aight

high hinge
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what buff did you run on your belt in season 2?

rich veldt
young swan
wary smelt
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are we crafting weapon first?

young swan
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yar

olive wraith
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I can’t loot a weapon at all this week

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Fricken irraz

rich veldt
olive wraith
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Myth weapon would be legit

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Got my hero track sac already

rich veldt
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Same

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Then I got reality checked by 2 frost dks

wary smelt
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are we crafting the claymore again?

rich veldt
echo rapids
unborn delta
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Unless you like how another looks better

olive wraith
wary smelt
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ty

echo rapids
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Wait can we use our s2 weapon to recraft?

undone flower
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yes

echo rapids
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Nice will save some gold

undone flower
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it reduces the craftin mat cost

olive wraith
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Just input the new spark

hybrid karma
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Is the "Sreams of Forgotten Sky" actually good or Sim Bait?

young swan
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its good

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it overkills mobs in m+ sometimes but its still like 4-6% of my damage pretty consistently

pulsar quest
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arcanocore is pretty beast

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its like 2-3% of my damage in keys

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and its a big golem so that owns

young swan
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arcano basically just a worse version of screams

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fucked up of them to make that

pulsar quest
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yeah

young swan
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the robot is cool tho

undone flower
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Why no one wants arcanocore in my guild ? It’s a strength only trinket ?

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I got it in normal AND in heroic

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Because I was alone on it keks

echo rapids
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Screams is worth for the metal AF name

echo rapids
young swan
keen dove
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sack of terror literally does more dmg

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just saying

undone flower
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I said I will not roll on other trinkets if I get arcano core in mythic, they all seemed happy

undone flower
echo rapids
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1st boss plus no one wants it and it’s actually good for us, sounds like a lock

brittle crow
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im full up on valorstones with nothing to spend them on

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aaaaaaaa

charred flint
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damn

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the thunderous roar as lowest prio besides ww is so weird

brittle crow
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my bags are FULL of either 4/8 champion or 1/6 hero

silent gazelle
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please make target cap go away

earnest canyon
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they wont as they want you out in the world to make it feel "alive"

loud field
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👋

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hey woyers

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how we doin

hybrid karma
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enraged like always

earnest canyon
loud field
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nice on both lol

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dumb question, how's slayer vs thane for m+ and raid nowadays? I heard thane got some nerfs but idk

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is it still slayer raid/thane mostly for m+?

polar narwhal
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thane has some fight in raid where it is better iirc

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m+ still thane if you have new 4p

young swan
polar narwhal
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else slayer

young swan
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in ST anyways

young swan
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theres a couple decent thane fights in raid like apart said

loud field
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gotcha

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what's the gap like between thane and slayer on those raid fights for thane?

young swan
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like 500k in favor of thane

loud field
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peepostudy ic ic

young swan
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but its also a case of like

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thane is gonna do way less boss dam

loud field
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ahhh ok

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what fights are those? forge and soul hunters or something?

young swan
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forgeweaver, araz, soul hunters

loud field
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ty

undone flower
loud field
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wait isn't forgeweaver araz the same boss?

young swan
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sorry

olive wraith
young swan
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SOULBINDER, araz, soul hunters

loud field
loud field
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but still play slayer if you just wanna do unga bunga boss dam with some okay cleave?

undone flower
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I’ll play slayer on soulbinder under for the first kill

loud field
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yee

undone flower
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Because I’m more interested in killing the boss, I don’t think they will need my thane damage to kill those adds

loud field
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aye that's how I feel

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thanks for the info yall

undone flower
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I don’t have an opinion on azaz because I will never see current form azaz

loud field
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i'm prolly still just gonna be in tank jail anyway for keys on my warrior alt

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but ty for the info

charred flint
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do i just use season 2 talents with old tier set or should i change something or m+?

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for*

midnight blade
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#showtooltip
/cast [known:Mountain Thane] Thunder Clap; [known:Slayer] Whirlwind

how to do good macro?

charred flint
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type /m on chat

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click new and put that into

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and then just drag icon to bar slot where u want whirlwind or MT

midnight blade
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#showtooltip /cast [known:Mountain Thane] Thunder Clap; [known:Slayer] Whirlwind how to do good macro?

undone flower
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I totally forgot, we have midnight cinematic tomorrow /tuesday

midnight blade
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/cast [known:Mountain Thane] Thunder Clap; [known:Slayer] Whirlwind

midnight blade
young swan
loud field
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sweet, ty

uncut spade
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hello superior warrior class

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i am a refugee coming from arms keks

spiral oasis
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Is 2pc + 2pc better than last season 4 piece?

warm crag
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sim it but probably ye

compact knot
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washed 🥀

olive wraith
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Actually thane s2 might be best by ilvl. Sim it

calm swallow
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Finally got 4set and hopped into a dungeon and OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHMYYYYYYYYYYYGODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD I love this tier

olive wraith
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Both thane and slayer are really fun this tier

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Top notch gameplay

calm swallow
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Thane doens't go brrt

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It goes STOMMMMMMMMMMMMMP

olive wraith
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Using TB 2-3 times in a row is pure dopamine

calm swallow
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Should I be using BT on CD now to get Blast procs?

fair star
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Shit

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i had prot spec both times

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i got 2 one handers

olive wraith
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It’s smf time

fair star
uneven schooner
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hmm it seems like most warriors are playing slayer a high keys

compact reef
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Is our st middle of the pack or good actually in our MT m+ build?

uneven schooner
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i usually beat my group in ST during boss fights

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we are all about the same skill level

cerulean badger
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If you get procs lul

uneven schooner
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our damage with no cds is also pretty good

digital mauve
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676 Slayer ST, on raid I'm usually one of the last dps ...

uneven schooner
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but yeah i was saying earlier most fury warrs are playing slayer for high keys. i was thinking about switching since I will never match uncapped aoe classes

digital mauve
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On Raid with MT I'm like 5-6th

uneven schooner
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i mean thats really low

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do you have tier?

digital mauve
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Nope zero

uneven schooner
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yeah thats why

olive wraith
uneven schooner
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4 piece is worth like 1.2 mil dps

digital mauve
olive wraith
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Mountain thane?

uneven schooner
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main tank i think

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in raid

digital mauve
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I meant MultiTarget

uneven schooner
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oh

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lmao

digital mauve
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When I have the MT slayer build on boss with add I'm 5-6th

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But on pure ST, 10-11th

olive wraith
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Fury cleave is good

uneven schooner
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that shouldnt be the case

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youre messing something up on slayer

digital mauve
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I'm one of the lowest (if not the lowest) ilvl on the group with no tier set but still

olive wraith
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No new tier

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Makes sense

uneven schooner
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oh right

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i already forgot

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mb

digital mauve
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I claeard 7/8 boss

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jsut need dimensius now

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gotta watch some vid

lavish sierra
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the wowhead guide covers 4piece right?

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like the rotation changes

olive wraith
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Yes

vale gale
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I read somewhere that once u aquired 4 set you change this talent to Gathering Clouds, is that still the case?

digital mauve
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For Dimensius you got with MulT or SingleT talent?

uneven schooner
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yeah thats the recommened talent

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thorims might

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accoridng to wcl most people use ST talents

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wait sorry ill be more specific, slayer with cleave

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but they probably have tier

frosty scroll
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do we just rb and execute spam on slayer st?

uneven schooner
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RB spam

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execute is at specific times

frosty scroll
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with wa, ye?

olive wraith
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It’s like a .5% loss if you execute when you get sd proc

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So you could spam exe

frosty scroll
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how come its a dps loss xd

uneven schooner
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you have to stack up hero talent debuff

frosty scroll
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isnt that what the weakaura is supposed to achieve

uneven schooner
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im not familiar with it

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but it sounds right

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the debuff is marked for execution

nocturne oyster
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Alright friends, now just to be 100% certain, i just got my 4p. So RB is now higher prio than BT correct?

slim coral
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yes just use bt when nothing else is up

nocturne oyster
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Is there a significant difference between thane and slayer in dunjons?

modest condor
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one is better for prio the other is better for big aoe

young swan
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thane has better aoe by ~5% although ymmv with good rng, slayer is ~10% better on ST

opal monolith
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Yes but mountain thane promotes testosterone production unlike slayer

undone flower
young swan
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in sims yeah, practical application is harder to approximate

undone flower
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I was constant 10 m in ara kara until boss

rotund ginkgo
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No because my cheeks clap so loudly they produce thunders

rotund ginkgo
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Which raise the testosterone of individuals in the group by 5%

modest condor
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ja clappa

bitter palm
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JA CLAPPA blast

undone flower
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But as slayer 2p I was doing 8-9m in that part

rotund ginkgo
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It'd called battle shout, I wouldn't expect a silly SLAYER to know anything about it

bitter palm
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ragingblow Execute Chadstorm or Bloodthirst blast Ravager

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both fuck

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👍

rotund ginkgo
heavy dock
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nothing fucks as hard as thunder blast effect

rotund ginkgo
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Fr

opal monolith
rotund ginkgo
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The dopamine of rampage>tb>rampage>tb

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Cannot be quenched

bitter palm
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false

bitter palm
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sending exe

undone flower
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Sudden death dopamine > all your testosterone

bitter palm
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843 times in a row

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is so cinema

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kachingkachingkachingkachingkachingkachingkachingkachingkachingkaching

uncut spade
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go into m+8 with 2pc on thane and never seen that much dmg before

rotund ginkgo
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I will say

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Bladestorm on 20s cd

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Is very pog

opal monolith
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Execute in 2025 keks

bitter palm
heavy dock
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how badly behind is thane compared with slayer at 0 set

compact reef
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I want spam this Execute whats mi spec? Fury? Arms?

uncut spade
opal monolith
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Legion classic

rotund ginkgo
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Day 1

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You're mostly behind on st as thane

uncut spade
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what should i craft with fury

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2 two handers keks

rotund ginkgo
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I mean, one gives u the other 2h for free

undone flower
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Agi dagger ofc

rotund ginkgo
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Surely

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Wrist

undone flower
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Tauren smf agi dagger chad

opal monolith
rotund ginkgo
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Wym he's happy

opal monolith
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He doesn't know you called him a ret bro

rotund ginkgo
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Look at his smile

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He's joyful

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Dimensius is such a fucking cringe fight

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It's fun but it's cringe

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King was Hella pog though ngl

uncut spade
undone flower
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I need to see demensius heroic, because I didn’t notice it was bad in normal, and I see all your hatred here

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Im really like ???, wtf happens on the fight that is cringe

young swan
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first phase can parry, cant charge on pull, hitbox is obscenely small, intermission just nukes frames and is also a massive nothing burger, p3 is good tho

rotund ginkgo
rotund ginkgo
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Or if the assigned gravity mass players take too long to grab it

young swan
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yeah but that wouldnt even really be an issue if he just had a real hit box

rotund ginkgo
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Yeah exactly

young swan
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those are just player issues

rotund ginkgo
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It's cringe

young swan
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rather than fight issues

rotund ginkgo
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Still

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It's as a result of, yeah for sure

echo rapids
rotund ginkgo
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I did kinda find a tech to charge on pull

rotund ginkgo
young swan
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i mean u can just walk out and walk in

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but thats fucking cringe

undone flower
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I will see tomorrow then, because I didn’t experience lot of p1 in normal tbf

rotund ginkgo
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Yeah

young swan
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just place us further back lmfao

rotund ginkgo
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I just face back so it's not a slow back pedal

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Pop Ava reck charge

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Saves a gcd

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Makes the flow a lot better ngl

young swan
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i really hope u dont do it in that order

rotund ginkgo
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Nah

young swan
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thank god

rotund ginkgo
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I mean I can't imagine it's a huge diff on that fight anyway

heavy dock
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yo are we no joke actually playing this as thane? :D

jolly parrot
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Any no 2p no 4p Gang

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no tokens at all and I wanna keep my charges until next vault clueless

undone flower
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I think I didn’t move out of melee a single time on normal, there are space denials shit going on in heroic ?

rotund ginkgo
# young swan thank god

I will say though I never really udberstood WHAT'S the big issue with doing it outside of the generic "uhhh I'm wasting one gcd of avatar"

young swan
rotund ginkgo
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Ur mom loses rage gen

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How so? I mean I reck charge Ava

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I get 80 I rampage

undone flower
rotund ginkgo
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But why would Ava before charge make u lose rage?

young swan
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if you do ava -> reck u get less rage cause the reck from avatar doesnt double the rage u gain from pressing avatar

rotund ginkgo
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oh no lmaoooo I do reck Ava

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I just write Ava reck cuz of the bug back in df s1

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So I'm just used to writing ava reck

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That's why u were so pressed

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😔✊✊

undone flower
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It is a common thing I have to explain in private message

rotund ginkgo
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Cutie pie

undone flower
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The CD macro, they always have avatar before reck

rotund ginkgo
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Yeah I mean back in df we had a reason for it

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Now it's a dps loss

echo rapids
rotund ginkgo
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Nah man

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I also played with some decent folk

undone flower
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The typical not enough rage for rampage dialogue has two endings : if it’s less than 79, you have avatar before reck, or out of combat if 79

rotund ginkgo
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With pugs it's way harder to get consistent damage

rotund ginkgo
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That shit tilts me

undone flower
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The tilt created by it is the memory of Odyn Fury in the opener ahhh good times

echo rapids
undone flower
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Next key I will play OF

rotund ginkgo
hidden ether
echo rapids
rotund ginkgo
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Had to switch cuz my tank moaned

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1 month of arms gameplay sadga

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BUT

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FURY IS SO FUN THIS TIER

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IT ACTUALLY FUCKS

undone flower
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Last 3 min 10 yard puddles

hidden ether
rotund ginkgo
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Imagine ur in retail and someone pulls up a "3k Rio legion remix" on u

rotund ginkgo
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Mm yes skittish and teeming

undone flower
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It’s not just simply skimmish and teeming

rotund ginkgo
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Pre nerf sanguine on darkheart thicket mmmmmm yess

undone flower
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THE ORIGINAL ONES

heavy dock
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skittish and bolstering

undone flower
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Infinite Stackable permanent bolstering oh yes

rotund ginkgo
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Mmm blood puddles on the blood elementals that are placed on the red river btw in the area that's fully enclosed in mists and blood

undone flower
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I really hope they really put the original affixes

heavy dock
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they have legion classic for that

dreamy hemlock
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do we get another catalyst on reset?

thick fossil
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The week after I believe.

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We get our second spark next week.

glad coyote
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anybody have a list of raid fights and if they are ST or MT?

haughty token
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what stat should our reshi wrap be

olive wraith
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  1. St
  2. St
  3. Aoe
  4. Aoe
  5. Aoe
  6. St
olive wraith
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Vers is pretty safe though since a lot of our stats gonna hit higher diminishing returns

robust widget
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do you know if this is in 10s or higher keys with longer fighttime? in my 10s its usually 3-4% ""only"" (Regarding Dimensius Scream trinket)

edgy widget
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depends on a lot of factors, like everything else

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but it also has two sources of damage, so check both

robust widget
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yeah there are like a couple, one for 1.9, 1.2, 0.4 and 0.1

jade peak
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just droped in a pug. dude offering 500k. got a pair of 684 from old season. y'all would do it?

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kinda conflicted

lavish sierra
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no

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look at the equip

jade peak
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yeah seems hella strong

hollow leaf
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that's your bis

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unless you wanna sell it to me in which case yes you definitely should

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then it's terrible

lavish sierra
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also I don't know why but I think I have a low amount of uptime on mobs because I might be too zoomed out and can't like actually tell if I'm in range

jade peak
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200k dps increase in a hectic add cleave 5 targets

glad coyote
woven valley
compact reef
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Execute or die

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When will be our execute phase relevant again?

woven valley
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When all our other abilities get nerfed 30 percent and execute gets buffed 10

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Very even trade off I promise

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But really I like our tier sets this time I really hope they turn parts of them into hero talents next xpac

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Especially thanes

pulsar quest
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thanes would be a good capstone talent somehow

woven valley
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I assume they will add more hero talents and not much to the regular talent trees but that’s just me. We will see

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I agree though

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Slayer and thanes tier this time would make good talents

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Makes both play styles feel better

pulsar quest
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i really like how each one has a diff play style

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makes the builders different priorities

woven valley
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Yeah honestly it’s nice to see the tier change up things

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I love when tier does that

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Really disappointed in the first two sets in tww but s3 is making up for it

half pond
restive peak
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Those boots on heroic are legit BIS til you kill mythic council and you get the boots lol

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If you sell em for 500k, let me know the guys name so I can hit him w a gratz on swindling you

modest condor
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"i kinda want to see fury warrior too" max on stream

spare steppe
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I sold a normal screaming trinket for 100k

modest condor
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return of the dps warrior?

young swan
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fury goin in

lean heart
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fellas are we back..

slim coral
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feral and fury being brought to fract

young swan
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wowzers

slim coral
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lets fuckin gooooo

undone flower
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Im in guys

slim coral
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no

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you're out

clever path
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No class is as cucked as paladins

Warrior has always been peak

slim coral
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peak is strechting it

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design wise it needs god

clever path
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No class in wow needs god

lean heart
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gonna have to change this Armsowns to :furyowns:

undone flower
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Needing god is stretching arms topic to other warrior specs

clever path
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Arms is for boomers who want to relieve glory days

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The kind of people who still live in college dorms

frail sedge
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what fight style are we using in sims for aoe?

fleet sorrel
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@sullen dove

sullen dove
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yo

compact knot
smoky vale
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@sullen dove

tepid cedar
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boooom

limber lagoon
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Alright give it to me straight

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does SMF have any chance of being "competitive" or is it dogwater doo doo

olive wraith
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It’s a loss

limber lagoon
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we talking 1-2% or 10-12%

olive wraith
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This is the closest season we’ve had in a while

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More that 2%

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Idk the updated loss though

limber lagoon
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I've always had a soft spot for SMF

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it'll never be the best that's all to obvious but I hope going into Midnight it's atleast an "option"

olive wraith
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Use it

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It won’t really matter unless you’re pushing top keys

lean heart
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riku is in we're so back

limber lagoon
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I'm not even playing at the moment (to busy irl) was just looking to pop in and soothe my curiosity on it

#

but that's good to hear it's close

#

closest its been*

chilly fractal
#

Oh hell yea

chilly fractal
# tepid cedar boooom

how much ramp time does it take to be good or is it good even at low fight times... sounds like one of those trinkets thats real good at 5+ mins but in like 2-3 not so much

#

haven't ran sims on it yet

carmine canopy
#

anecdotally in keys, my normal version of the trinket was around 3% of my damage overall

young swan
#

but its just as bad as taking any other sub-optimal talent

pulsar quest
#

lets go riku!!!!

crude ridge
#

When I was testing it on PTR it seemed to ramp at a decent speed

tepid cedar
#

this was a 47% pull on firust m boss

#

23 mil is not bad

crude ridge
#

What was the fight time?

tepid cedar
#

4:57

crude ridge
#

That's honestly not bad

#

Kinda fucks not gonna lie

tepid cedar
#

yea i wanna try it in m+

#

tongiht

#

gona run a 13 with it

#

see how it does

crude ridge
#

Doesn't it ramp up on the target though?

#

Or do you get stacks?

tepid cedar
#

read

#

2nd half

#

sorry about to pull bosds agin

#

2nd half of the trink

crude ridge
#

No gonna lie I thought that meant your death lol

undone flower
restive peak
#

Praying for screams tn bro

undone flower
#

So it’s 23 + 14 + 9 no ?

silent gazelle
blazing orbit
#

Yesterday I had a talk with archmtiros,I'm swapping to fury.

#

The glorious days are back haha

tepid cedar
#

3 min pull

#

24m

silent gazelle
tepid cedar
#

yea this trink fucks

silent gazelle
#

usually 2% in a dungeonm

blazing orbit
undone flower
#

Ye it does as much as lockncock did

#

Good trinket

blazing orbit
#

Should it be considered bis compared to araz for example?

silent gazelle
#

it is

blazing orbit
#

Okay okay crazy,so I know on what I should hunt tomorrow

#

Cuz I'm going all out on the reroll

#

What fiber should I use ?

covert abyss
#

does 1H vs 2H matter?

#

my 1H weaps are better

#

at this exact moment

blazing orbit
#

Also are we the same stat wise like first season? Haste mastery?

covert abyss
#

but none of the listed talent builds rec 1H

blazing orbit
#

And always loot as arms

#

So u won't have any bad surprises on the vault

covert abyss
#

that's huge thank you!

blazing orbit
#

One hand only on prot

olive wraith
#

i think this is the most even dps split ive seen in a key

blazing orbit
#

Damn

blazing orbit
flint flame
#

Hy guys one question

blazing orbit
#

Should the stat prio be haste mastery?also what fiber are we using?

tepid cedar
blazing orbit
tepid cedar
#

i think antenaa isnt as good as ppl though it was though

#

as uptime isnt that great

flint flame
#

teh 2h weapon effect from nexus king, is it only cosmetic or doesit actually do something?

blazing orbit
#

It's like autoloot

#

If u kill for example ten mobs

#

U press the weapon and it loots

flint flame
#

lmao

olive wraith
#

my sims are liking haste/vers atm

flint flame
#

I guess it also turns those corpses into void dust as mentioned

blazing orbit
olive wraith
#

ilvl will probably beat almost everything

#

generally we do like haste mastery sims know best

flint flame
#

thanks!

restive peak
#

We are very stat overloaded in S3 now, even now at 700ish, you'll stack haste/mast til the robot says it's time for vers and crit

blazing orbit
#

What about the fiber?

olive wraith
#

Pick one

restive peak
#

Vers

olive wraith
#

It doesn’t really matter

blazing orbit
#

I think I'll sim them

#

To be sure

restive peak
#

Most people just went vers and are building around it

blazing orbit
#

Btw I see that the bis belt is the disc one

#

I haven't got it yet

#

Can I still get it and get it on 701 ilvl?

marble swift
#

weapon ascendence is > double dawn/dusk this season?

#

for m+**

marble pilot
#

11 ranged and 2 melee on the world 1st soul hunters. Feels bad

chilly fractal
#

Just requires running delves

spare steppe
marble pilot
spare steppe
#

Council fights are always weird

covert abyss
#

isn't mastery>haste?

chilly fractal
#

but generally yes

covert abyss
#

why does wowhead list the haste fiber for cloak instead of the mastery one?

chilly fractal
#

because odds are you have a million mastery

covert abyss
#

for sure

#

so diminishing returns?

inland flame
#

Oh boy, Liquid's running a Fury on Frac

vapid tiger
#

he's been doing well

bold bear
#

this fight is basically a patchwerk sim so we're looking good lol

urban drum
#

which fiber for fury chat

#

mast?

ember cradle
#

Sim it

#

Mine was verse

vapid tiger
#

Just grab any for this second. You want to go craft one. Mats are super cheap

undone flower
#

Haste, mastery or versatility basically

#

And yes you craft a better version of these

low folio
#

so why do they still make people run back to a boss instead of respawning them outside the room

undone flower
#

In the raid ?

low folio
#

ya

undone flower
#

It’s warlock’s raid buff

low folio
#

guess i should just be happy they finally added respawn points to boss kills on mythic plus dungeons

undone flower
#

That, and the portal to teleport your roster before starting your raid night or your pug

upbeat blade
spare steppe
#

They feel much better

loud patrol
#

anyone have a wa for tracking Slaughtering strikes

sinful spoke
#

WITH S2 WEPS

#

I AM GOATED

#

11 eco

outer locust
#

Hold it down brotha

sullen dove
compact reef
rigid stirrup
#

12 HoA

lyric ether
#

So... conflicting reports. Full 5 set for Fury or do we wanna do 4 and another piece like bone-melted?

chilly fractal
#

Iirc… the helm stats aren’t great

proven stream
#

conflicting where? who's saying tier helm?

lyric ether
sand hollow
#

when are yall replacing your belt? does it take a myth track piece to be worth it?

chilly fractal
sand hollow
#

word ya was kinda assuming so but figured it was worht asking round here

chilly fractal
#

And even then your gilded crests will likely get more of a DPS increase for you on hero track pieces

proven stream
lyric ether
chilly fractal
#

What ever the first 4 you get

bitter palm
#

u are overthinking it

tepid lily
#

good or bad

chilly fractal
#

I don’t sim 5 targets 5 minutes

rigid stirrup
#

i do 5 targets 1.5 min

tepid lily
#

bloodmallet still sims at 5 target

#

idk the minutes

#

11m is obviously a lot

chilly fractal
#

Well what are you trying to figure out

tepid lily
bold bear
#

why are you doing a 5 target sim? are you trying to sim for m+?

rigid stirrup
#

well know with 4 piece the damage gain you get is kinda astronomical in both forms of content

tepid lily
#

I noticed sack of terror is there, that's mb

#

for m+

chilly fractal
#

Sack is good

#

Does good dam

restive peak
#

You sim for M+ by simming pure ST and using your brain on trinkets

#

Basically

keen kindle
#

That's a big ask for warrior players

restive peak
#

You sim for ST then look up the top runs and steal their trinkets then bruh lmao

olive wraith
#

Anyone know which dungeon with a wep has the smallest loot table

slim coral
olive wraith
#

Floodgate spam it is

spare steppe
#

Only three dungeons, floodgate, gambit, and priory have 2h

olive wraith
#

Doesn’t eco dome have

#

No wait

#

Gambit

#

There’s another one I’m pretty sure

bold bear
#

eco dome does have one

olive wraith
#

Flood has mast/haste
Gambit has crit/vers?
priory has haste vers

bold bear
#

crit haste

olive wraith
#

And then there’s haste crit from eco

#

Ye

#

Flood will be good so I can try snag pacemaker same time

winter shoal
#

Worst pug I've ever been in but at least I never have to go back

olive wraith
#

Ayyyy nice

#

Ara has like no good loot

#

So I’ll only go back for rating

bold bear
spare steppe
olive wraith
#

I’m pretty sure 6/8 keys for weekly 10 I ran were flood

olive wraith
bold bear
sullen dove
#

mickey ass mouse shit

winter shoal
#

Not using crystalline radiance on chest HUH

sullen dove
#

it is?

#

just says weird shit on raidbots

winter shoal
#

Do you not even have 2p yet swordish?

upper trellis
#

ho lee chit

tepid lily
sullen dove
#

na

upper trellis
#

dungeon slice

winter shoal
#

My 5m 1t sim gladge

upper trellis
#

cant wait till tuesday hope they dont nerf the shit outta 4pc

#

lemme see mine

winter shoal
#

Why would they nerf it

#

We're not even that good keks

upper trellis
#

but we arent bad

winter shoal
#

I mean

upper trellis
#

and with blizzard that scares me

winter shoal
#

Arms is

tepid lily
#

nah rwf started

#

no more nerfs till dimensius dies

delicate mirage
#

Anyone not taking champ spear and just keeping roar

junior gale
#

always roar press it and forget no other thought required

upper trellis
#

im lazy, i got spear macro'd to @ player

junior gale
#

that is also a good strat

upper trellis
#

just hop in the middle of all the enemies and boom

delicate mirage
#

I have it on mouse over which works good

#

But still roar might be better and faster

winter shoal
#

The difference between roar and spear is <1%, and roar is better on single target for thane anyways

#

Well within the margins of just play what you want and are more comfortable with

delicate mirage
#

Does anyone have a BT weak aura for szn 3

winter shoal
azure hill
#

Is it worth changing to Mountain thane for M+ with just 2 piece or wait until 4 piece?

upper trellis
#

just hit it

winter shoal
#

Slayer also good in keys even if you have 4p

#

This build absolutely fries in keys (no tier set required, but 2p helps)

#

There are some modifications you can make with 4p as well

#

For reference, I do like 6.5-7m overalls in ara kara with that build

#

Depending on tank and group comp and everything ofc

#

And I've never even come close to losing to anyone else on bosses

junior gale
#

OF without TR thats fucked up man

winter shoal
#

TR very good qol but very bad numerically

junior gale
#

TR = Ultimate chill vibe gameplay

winter shoal
#

For very low keys (like m0s, +2s) TR might be good

#

And roar caps maybe

azure hill
bitter palm
#

if u are middleo f the pack

#

they dont care

#

u dont exist for them

worn yoke
#

i hear talk of a thane m+ build using OF but cant find any reference... any info? (i have 4p)

winter shoal
#

I don't think thane would really want to play OF

#

Slayer can (see the build here #fury message ) but thane probably shouldn't

remote zephyr
#

Unbridled Ferocity and 1/2 Critical Thinking, or 2/2 Critical Thinking?

worn yoke
#

i've mocked up something but i dont think it looks great.. but to be fair you really hardly press RB in thane once you have 4p so maybe theres something there?

winter shoal
#

You'd probably do something like this but critical thinking is pretty ass for thane

#

Maybe with roar caps too

worn yoke
#

yeah i took roar caps away coz if going critical thinking then maybe double down on Tblast crits instead of roar caps coz they kinda mid anyway

#

just an idea, probably not worth

winter shoal
#

But idk I think it's pretty weak for thane relative to slayer, and also makes you a lot weaker at things you're okay at in order to get very slightly stronger at things you're already strong at

#

Pareto optimality type shit

wary falcon
#

with 4p thane do you not hit thunderclap unless its blast proc'd ?

winter shoal
#

You still TC to maintain ww stacks

worn yoke
#

you hit tclap if you need meat cleaver still

#

^

wary falcon
#

ok ty

uneven schooner
#

in raid are you supposed to hold cds for a bit to line them up? im talking like 10-15 seconds

oblique thistle
winter shoal
oblique thistle
#

I mean numerically theres absolutely no reason you'd even take OF but fair enough

uneven schooner
#

in ST, i notice that avatar is ready and BS and recklessness are like 15 seconds away

#

it happens kinda often

oblique thistle
#

yes there's always desync issues with Anger Management

worn yoke
#

you need to spend more rage then, its actually tuned pretty well to bring reck and BS down to ~45 seconds... so long as you have good uptime

uneven schooner
#

might be right. but being forced off the boss can cause that then

winter shoal
#

The only cds you ever really hold are

  • if there's an add spawn or damage amp soon
  • hold BS if reck will be back in 15, or avatar will be back in 8
#

Ava and reck you pretty much always send immediately

uneven schooner
#

thanks for the info

#

this raid has lots of damage amps and add spawns so it can make it tricky

oblique thistle
#

I noticed that the add spawn timings on forgeweaver can be a bit awkward at times

#

Personally, I've held BS for orb spawns and that seems to work well

winter shoal
#

I feel like at least later in the fight, there will always be orbs up when your BS comes back

oblique thistle
#

Yup

uneven schooner
#

yeah i think i did ok on that one

oblique thistle
#

On soulbinder, I actually played thane lol

uneven schooner
#

we just killed h nexus king

winter shoal
#

Thane is a big grief on that fight, at least outside mythic

#

Maybe even in mythic

#

@worn yoke sims say OF is very stinky

#

that's 1t/5t

worn yoke
#

i assume onslaight is just as useless if not more, i think the last time i used onslaight was s1 DF lol

bitter palm
#

s2 df used it in all content

#

cause it procced uf

#

and uf wasnt useless

worn yoke
#

maybe it was S2, the one that had freehold in the rotation

bitter palm
#

ye s2

worn yoke
#

and it was actually giga fun and that season popped off

bitter palm
#

am ravager ons

#

yeah fury was giga good until aug came

lean heart
#

we started heroic dimensius tn my god the hit box is giga cringe

worn yoke
#

back when thunderous roar and ravager actually did independent damage

bitter palm
#

and mage rework

bitter palm
#

p1 hitbox is cancer

#

and so is p3 ngl

lean heart
#

its so bad

worn yoke
#

not to mention dimmy's arms come and blank out your screen repeatedly

lean heart
#

we should kill it on monday tho inshallah

latent steeple
#

do i take this talent for M+ if i only have 2 tier pcs (s3)

winter shoal
#

It's still not optimal, but it's not awful

worn yoke
#

yeah i was wondering as much, onslaight after BS would actually feel really good to hit, but then you drop cruel and that feels bad because you actually press RB so much in slayer now

quiet breach
#

poggy liquid using fury warr

#

no damage amps so time to shine

winter shoal
worn yoke
#

interesting.. i'd like to see how some of these other talent options could be utilised at some point this whole expansion lol

latent steeple
#

i imported the sd weak aura, so whenever i hear kaching, i just send execute right?

winter shoal
#

Yes

smoky vale
#

bc no vc

native wadi
#

Looks like warriors are very popular in the rwf

wet locust
#

okayge riku is pumping

dry halo
restive peak
#

You run the build purely to kill prio targets/bosses efficiently and have some semblance of AOE from the OF/roar/RB reap procs

#

I think if you're gonna run the slayer build we've been tinkering with and swap to BT at 6 t for higher overall, you may as well just play thane

#

The entire cook behind this build is filling the arcane mage style role; you're there to expedite the harder part of pulls/bosses, not to crank 10mil overalll

#

I'm finishing around 6-8 depending on dungeon, I'm pretty sure we can get up to 9-10 in gear with coordinated pulls as thane

#

But you're just a weaker everything else as thane imo, we fill a niche this way

pearl abyss
#

if i have s3 2p am i better of dropping the s2 set if i have hero gear to replace?

restive peak
#

Sim would tell you

pearl abyss
#

for raid this is

restive peak
#

I went straight from 2 to 4, so couldn't tell ya bro

pearl abyss
#

i simmed it and said to drop s2 but came here to check.

restive peak
#

Robot isn't wrong

#

Send it brother

hallow sphinx
#

🎣

pearl abyss
#

cool cool

#

thanks

restive peak
#

Np big dog

#

bro warlocks are gonna eat a fuckin nuke, this is wild to watch on every fight

bitter palm
#

nono kalamazi said they are oversimming

#

cause they lose all dmg when moving

restive peak
#

LMFAO

#

They need to add a title for Kalamazi into the game

#

"Sandbagging crybaby Kalamazi"

bitter palm
#

as we can see from the raid performance

#

they truly are oversimming

#

cluegi

restive peak
#

NGL Echo are kinda smurfing on DHs rn

olive wraith
#

He can’t be real

restive peak
#

I always laugh when people claim shit like "oh no we have to move", yeah the best players have figured this shit out for ages and always will soooo

bitter palm
#

when the biggest dog is on the bench...

bitter palm
restive peak
#

Sitting Revvez is a mistake, and should highlight for blizz how far they've gotten from class balance lmao

#

If Revvez isn't the definition of "bring the player", no one is. Dude is a literal robot

bitter palm
#

bro idk this tier is sick

#

m+ and all

#

but balance is so bad

restive peak
#

Yeah the fights are awesome, the dungeons are awesome

#

Only priory sucks

bitter palm
#

mfs voted for that dungeon cause of tome and signet or w/e

restive peak
#

Yep lol

#

But the 7 others are bangers, which is good

bitter palm
#

ye

bitter palm
restive peak
#

Ye that parts fun haha

narrow kiln
#

I have the so’Leah trinket should I try and get the sacbrood as my other one

narrow kiln
red grail
olive wraith
dense sedge
#

Finally got my 4P so playing mountain thane, I’m just looking at the priority on wowhead.

I have a question I quite often find myself rage capped when I use say TB and BT as they higher in the priority if I’m enraged is this the play or should I be sending rage on rampage to not be wasting rage

blazing orbit
olive wraith
narrow kiln
#

Also where can I get this sudden death weakaura I saw someone talk about

blazing orbit
#

Btw is there any decent weakaura for tracking the ww?

olive wraith
blazing orbit
olive wraith
#

I use luxthos

#

It def does track ww

blazing orbit
#

Then it must be on a setting I haven't seen

#

I'll check it in the afternoon

tepid lily
#

worst patch to balance stuff ig

#

indie company moment

narrow kiln
#

Is sacbrood and so’Leahthe only 2 trinkets we should go for from m+

pulsar prawn
olive wraith
#

Should be 4 blue bars under your rage

blazing orbit
#

Oh okay

#

I didn't understand it was for this hahah

#

Is there any other tracker apart from that on luxthos?

lapis shadow
#

I'm gonna test it cuz I got 2p

silk wharf
#

Is Echo's team literally all ranged except for DH debuff and rogue for atrophic? That is crazy.

pulsar prawn
silk wharf
#

Oh I didn't notice Liquids was.

fossil leaf
#

Finished raid on Normal and as much HC as the guild can do. And I've simmed my character with different setups, it keeps recommending double Duskthread lining for embelishments (I got dual floodgate weapons), is this "sim-bait" or are they really that powerful?

tight roost
fossil leaf
brittle crow
#

slayer is so fun in aoe and itd be more fun if i had 4set

#

but then i play thane

#

sad!

rich karma
#

What are the fury stat breakpoints for diminishing returns? I wasn't able to find any info on them

sullen dove
#

nobody thinks of em u just plug gear into the robot it tells you what you use

#

truestatvalues is maybe an addon that sorta does that I just have it to look at cause funny but make 0 thoughts behind it

#

pretty likely to go over the first dr line on some stats this late into an xpac

young swan
#

no

wet locust
#

sprinkle in a dk when they are overtuned and it's mostly range

young swan
#

6-7 melee is common

smoky vale
#

its mostly been tank dh rogue dk

#

gm xan

jovial dagger
#

but i feel 19-20k mastery and 17-19k haste is nice , but i overcapped on haste because of my gear

#

u get to a point where its worth more vers then haste

olive wraith
#

we gaming now folks

jovial dagger
#

gz

smoky vale
olive wraith
olive wraith
jovial dagger
olive wraith
#

Ok

undone wren
olive wraith
#

I just wanted any wep

#

It actually sims lower than gambit wep for me

jovial dagger
#

whats the stats on that one?

olive wraith
#

Crit vers I think

undone wren
olive wraith
#

Should be some tutorials on YouTube

#

There’s also a tab called droptimizer that makes things easy

olive wraith
#

Takes your fear and calculates what drips are an upgrade from selected dungeons

jovial dagger
#

download simulation craft from curse forge , reload your game , type /simc , ctrl+c to copy , go on google type simc , go to raidbots , go to top gear , paste the thing u coppied , click find gear

undone wren
#

I just usually wing my builds lol. Currently, I'm still 2 tier pieces, with 2 from S2. Weapons and Trinkets I usually farm from M+, but everything else is basically just winging it lol

cobalt relic
#

I dropped it yday too

dusk urchin
warm crag
cobalt relic
#

wait right we get mythic track from vault right

#

ggwp

warm crag
#

its p good tho it is in the wowhead bis list however much thats worth

smoky vale
#

hi spongus

warm crag
#

which weapon you want is very gear dependent tho, ppl want the salhadaar wep despite it only having crit

warm crag
warm crag
#

cause not everyone has the same gear?

cobalt relic
#

ahh

#

hai hai

#

spongie kun

#

wakarimashta

jovial dagger
solemn plover
jovial dagger
#

why are there 2 of u spongies?

cobalt relic
#

smh fanboys

solemn plover
jovial dagger
solemn plover
#

Yeah i am the original spongie

#

@warm crag

warm crag
solemn plover
#

I got all the strength

cobalt relic
gleaming siren
#

No wae

#

A third Spongie has hit Skyhold

remote bobcat
#

what happened to green spongie

warm crag
#

@lost saffron

chilly plume
#

shame on you

warm crag
#

we still have @fickle bluff

smoky vale
#

hi schmongus

remote bobcat
#

giofiveseven

solemn plover
#

I am the original spongeman

smoky vale
#

hi kronzo

chilly plume
remote bobcat
cobalt relic
dry halo
jovial dagger
remote bobcat
jovial dagger
#

pog

smoky vale
#

wrong

#

they all mimic me

remote bobcat
jovial dagger
smoky vale
#

do @ arms troll

remote bobcat
plucky wedge
#

is the wa for execute the only one we track now?

smoky vale
#

as soon as you get 4p

plucky wedge
#

got a sneaky link 🙂 pleaseee

jovial dagger
trail thunder
#

4set fun

#

it rocks that one curio from normal made my 8target 1min sim go up by a chill 5million

gloomy loom
#

What is the prio with 4 set? RB and execute when the WA Say it? BT still at 5 stack only?

plucky wedge
trail thunder
#

i think you only BT when you have nothing else to press, last time i checked

#

with 4set

jovial dagger
#

any1 some cleave slayer talents for 3rd boss?

remote bobcat
#

you can delete the crit tracker weakaura even

sick hound
#

hey guys should i track whirlwind buff?

cobalt relic
worn rain
lofty palm
sick hound
#

for real do we need the cleave buff or we dont care ? its last in rotation

rain sierra
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Hey guys does anyone run Quaziis UI? because his WA pack for fury doesnt have whirlwing as an abulity when you player slayer, and i tried to add it in buyt it didnt work

sick hound
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but didn't we hit more target on execute?

golden hare
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are you looking at single target priority or multi target priority