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its not an add fight its a council fight and consistent aoe is better there than cleave aoe so
is the suddent death aura working good?¿
got one of those too afraid to ask questions.
what doe sthe % mean above bloodthirst here? And what should I look to be doing with it
Crit chance
With new tier, nothing
It's something you played around with old tier
ah okay so dont really bother looking at it then?
I'm going to remove that number from my UI once I have new tier
dunno if turbo updated it but it does kaching when you are supposed to execute
Hello Spongie57
just a previous (or current) version also had it kaching at 1x mfe application in execute which results in a lot of kachings
Hello anda57
You can delete the number once you get tier, I don’t remember if it glows
Something glows and it is useless : remove asap
hi spongus schmungus
Got it on the second run. Thankfully it was a 10, so I didn't have to spend crests.

Haven't seen a Pacemaker yet, and it took 5 runs of Ara-Kara for a sac-brood.
Yeah me too I didn’t see pace drop yet
got it 3 Times
Didn't see weapon tho as i said
I think I'm good on trinkets though. I have the cursed idol, arcano raid trinket, and a sac-brood.
Yeah that’s how rng goes, I got sacbrood and idol the first +10 of those keys I do
Been farming priory for the ring, that's the next big upgrade from droptimizer.
But I had to do 15 dungeons to get my second hero piece to catalyst for tier
Yeah, I'm stuck at 2pc till Tuesday.
6 heroic slots and 3 mythic. Tier is gonna be in at least 2 of em.
Do you guys know how much dps we should be doing in m+? i am frequenting about 3.3mil with 684ilvl and 2piece
hmmm
Dawn and streets were closer to 5m
are you slayer?
Maybe i don't understand how fury works anymore then lmao
how do we burst? is it not just pop all our CD's at the same time, and thats it?
In aoe with 2p : it is really important you stick to the same target, and press BT on CD in aoe
You slam execute sudden death and send everything on cd on your main target
why is BT important?
It procs reap (a slayer talent in the middle of slayer tree)
ooooh
4p makes it so RB procs reap too
Aaaaah
That’s why you see a change
so right now BT has higher prio?
I was still rolling with hack n slash, but it shouldn’t be important
Two weapons, legs and pacemaker in 20 runs total.

New 2p is like 400k upgrade r? So hard to best any1 with 2p
15 keys so far ive gotten 1 weap 1 chest
In m+ is it worth always delaying avatar to line up with all the rest of the cds?
Nah
Or you just send it and thats it?
Reck give avatar
Yeah thats true
Full send it homie. The warrior way.
got 5 belts 
Im at 41 keys this week
should I use the HC crest token for weapon or save for something after weapon?
And I got 3 belts 
You will be able to craft a weapon next week, your current hc wep will be free
so what do I use the token on? crafting after weapon craft?
So it depends if you care about those runes crests
(I don’t / I upgraded 701 wep still I’m not crazy to spend more than 15 on this)
Does 2 and 4 set change slayer rotation at all?
Oh, you talk about the hc demnsius craft token ?
yes
and I have 704 weapon already also
that's what I mean, for us it seems obsolete
by the time we have our 3rd spark, surely there's nothing worth using it to craft for
Yes it is obsolete for me / the only context I would use it : when I will recraft my S2 wrists into S3, I might use the runed crest one
But I didn’t in S1 and S2
Yes basically, you need a spark for it, but when you have a spark you want to use your gilded
So it is close to obsolete if you have access to gilded
I guess maybe if you got a mythic weapon right away on thursday it could be worth potponing the weapon craft
that's like the only conceivable way to use it
but probably not unless the rest of the gear is ass
I think you still craft a wep if you get a myth wep
yeah hc to mythic wep is still pretty big
Because spending 75 gilded in that myth wep would be 60 wasted
I dont see a scenario where as fury you dont craft weapon on reset tbh
maybe sombody recrafted something else
Massive reset
then u can see it happening
yeah wed im powerspiking to oblivion
i crafted stuff for 3 shammys
daggers
and they crafted int instead of agi
each time
😭

The only crafts I saw in my guild are off-hands
I didn’t check everyone
I have no clue about caster gear strat, but in my mind a staff is big pp no ?
Oh I mean I've done a total of 60 keys
It was god awful doing 6mil overalls day 1 and now doing 7 feels weak cuz all the warriors got funneled 4p

But happyslayer still sandbags
Just trying again, sorry for the spam?
I've tried simming 1 target 5 mins, 8 targets 1 min and dungeon slice and they all give different results (of course) so I'm a bit unsure what to use.
I have mythic track Pacemake from last season, 691 Screams of a Forgotten Sky, Hero track 694 Eradicating Arcanocore, Hero track 697 Sacbrood and Hero track 697 Cursed Stone Idol.
Just never been this lucky with tinkets so I'm kinda out of my depths with what to choose and what is like an obvious future proof choice or whatever other than looking at BIS items but the BIS trinket like Screams 691 is out performed by a Funhouse Lens 671???
Just sim 5 or 8 target
8 target if you think they keys you do will do that big enough pulls often enough
just keep them all and use them in the situations they are good. Thats future proofing
Don’t talk
Yeah that's what I'm doing, just would be nice to know what to use now haha.
I like the stone idol in keys rn tbh
What is this?
Your gonna have to use your noggin m+ sim is like 30% intuition and can't really walk you thru that
Yes it is not real logs on points
So you can see how many keys you did, even if you didn’t log them
No clue
You played thane in priory with 2p ?
It didn’t do as bad I would think
Hows damage with new set? played a key with last season tier set, and its completly dogshit dps in keys xP
What's the poit of having weapons that drops on mythic+ and raids if we can just craft both weapons ourselves? Never understood that
myth weapon is still higher ilvl than crafted
Yes
and just because you can doesn’t necessarily mean you should, it’s nice to have options
isnt the crafted one still BiS for offhand
Wait what
No cantrip weapons this tier, so any mythic weapon in vault should last a long time.
Okok
same
there’s a quest when you do t11 delve to do a mythic+ and it gives 15 gilded that ignores cap
So how fury is doing in Raid rn ? Was hoping to pug raid later today
but for some people it didn’t give them crests
Ok I thought they were taking them back if you were over cap
pretty decent I’d say
Last I checked i had 105
AI that spells about as aboutt ?? No. Just copy pasted from other tickets, which is fine.
its ai
They fixed it and possibly next reset those with 105 now have 105/180 next reset.
trust me
no they are saying they didn’t get the crests and blizz are saying they won’t give you them
they are supposed to ignore cap
Decent as middle in the details charts?
They are not.
the bug was people NOT getting them
they did last tier for same quest
Nope.
the blizz response also leans towards my side
bro everyone has 105 crests except few ppl
Depending on boss I’m top 4~ avg
its literally intended quest
Oh so it's ok ? With full tier set?
It’s hard to judge this week I suppose because I have 4 set and some people don’t
Oh
but I think it’s pretty good yeah
Ok. Big L then. They added compensation quest last season when people got extra crafting fragment through an exploit too, but I guess not for this.
Yeah it’s a less widespread issue than that
Im just afraid of being refused to pug both on raid and m+ because of the spec and my lower Io
Or also less significant in their eyes
Just returned to wow this season since s1
maybe getting into keys is hard but I think raid should be fine
What's the best way to avoid that ? Getting into a guild?
play tank
bro idk i pugged 2.6 this week playing nothing but fury
low keys are a pain
but once u get to 10s its free
beyond that is gonna be hard unless its phys comp
I didn’t pug a single key having friends is always the play
That’s promising then
i am also low ilvl
2p+2p 689 atm
was 685 when i started doing 10s
still beating pugs tho xdd
ofc
also the reason 10s are free
is cause u just wait for the hof raiders filling their vaults for splits
pugging your own key will always be the easiest way
if u dont have a group
anyone know if it matters what tier delve we use our quartz on to summon boss? or just the tier we do for delvers bounty
after first reck+avatar, the following reck/avatar doesn't line up, just send whatever if off cd?
damn, i'm liking this spec a bit more already
me warrior no think
unga bunga style
there is only zug zug
I only ever delay like up to 10 seconds if I know a big add phase is coming up on a boss or we're about to go to a new pull in m+
It was a wowhead news couple days ago
Hello fella gamers. I am new to playing fury warrior. Where could I find some good tips about gear and rotation ( m+ and raid ) for this season and about warriors in general
wowhead
Wowhead do not even say which gear is most likely do turn in tier set 💀
Yes, I know, that is why I made a ticket. They just confirmed it for me.
Wowhead's got all the stuff about gear
Still shit there is no retrofix for those that missed it.
There are things they don’t keep track I guess, so they can’t do shit about it, similar to vault bugs
Is the dimensius trinket simbait for any reason? It just seems like we’re one of the only classes it’s top tier for
What do you mean?
Last time i checked for bis gear on wowhead there was nothing to say about tier set pieces as it usually does for other classes/specs
this ?
Does anyone know if there are any good trinkets from ulduar?
Hi, new warrior here, how much worse is SMF compared to Titan's Grip
and ppl invite these ppl to keys because they are meta
20 deaths, overtime 10dawn, like how
Good combo chat ?
get these
had a pug fdk that was doing less than my bdk friend

thats in my bank, dont like channel on use trinkets
aye this, thankya. i might be blind aswell :))
its passaive
it just procs and u get some haste
i dont even notice it
out of last 10 keys i had like 5 dawnbreaker
and there is legit nothing
i can get from that dungeon
same brother. 11 Ara
i need 4 loot from dawm
all 697 and need 701
and thats after being declined from 30 keys, and playing que simulator
for literally EVERY key, i dont even check rio or anything anymore
just want to play
not getting invited in 699, new 4 set, all 10s +2 is very cringe
ye i just pug my own perma
I want to pug my own, but Wednesday we didn’t do my key, so I still have a 2 in my bags, I’m kinda lazy
I might grind my key tonight, but I don’t think i will do lot of m+ before reset
Yo all quick question about brutal finish/Slaughtering Strikes
I see this one wowhead - Does this mean that we delay Rampage, untill we are out of raging blow charges, even if we go above 115 rage, after every bladestorm ?
Yes
Hey for this season are we just not push BT unless we have nothing else?
bruh i have those and cursed stone idol sims a 100k more xd
Until no raging blow, not enraged anymore or 5 stack of slaughtering strike (not the most common condition)
It’s on use could be why
Cool thanks
you sim aoe?
i do sim dungeon slice tbh xd
Cheers! thanks man 😉
just sim for st
cursed stone idol is really strong on aoe
fair i was thinking simming for DS is better when u mainly focus on m+
You bound idol to a specific macro ? I saw someone suggest with charge
might be better if you only m+
but you cant go wrong simming for st
it has a cast doesn't it?
You can’t charge when you are in melee
true
idk if i get it if I will have a macro for it tho
Can someone tell me in the slayer build do we always get 5 stacks of SS or just send it when enrage falls of
where to find the ideal talents for each MFO fight? just checking on warcraftlogs?
It is a weird one for sure, I don’t feel I really want to reck+ava+ charge if it’s to press it as my first global
This is for "Single target boss figth" when i sim my weapons i still sim highest with Authority of the Depths. But guides says Oath one is best.
-0.1% if i go Main-hand Oath and Off-hand Depths
-0.2% if i go Both weap Oath
depths is strictly single target so it should sim higher on straight ST
oath gets more benefit when you start adding other targets/adds in
I know for multiple targets, was just confused due to guides even suggesting it, on single target figths
Versa adds some defense
Also why i set the notion of "Single Target boss figth"
most people arent changing enchants every boss so they recommend the best universal enchant
is this just for slayer?
yes, only after bladestorm (brutal finish) and while enraged
yeah usually you do 6 to farm specific items faster or 10s to get 3/6 hero discount
both are okay they drop the same (1/6 hero), one drops runics and the other gilded tho
You don’t play bladestorm as thane and brutal finish is what causing this, it’s a slayer talent
any WA gamer to help me?
its a simple thing but it doesnt really work and idk why
i want my rage to be yellow when its between 80-110 and to be blue when its above 110
but i dont get the yellow one, only the blue
can you expand them
yeah sure which 1
do you need the gradient for yellow? could you just change the default base colour to yellow ie not in conditions
for example this is for the yellow, aura 4 talent known is slayer's strike so it registers im on slayer
ye i just like it uwu
i have gradients on my bars
fair
this functions just fine
so like, above 115 it turns blue
as u can see, still red
why don't you put it all in one condition?
i think so, but not at my pc to check it
my first go as fury. feelsbadman
put another trigger in the conditionhere
get capped!
I don’t believe so. Worst I can say about it is that it does have some propensity for overkilling targets, which can waste some of its dam potential
im mashing my buttons, i swear
But it’s no more unrealistic than pacemaker 
with the new 4p should i send proc of sd instant or steal wait for 2 proc / 3 stakcs
Fair enough. Thanks
ill try
ok i dont get it
how am i supposed to have a single condition be:
if its above 80 and below 115, make it yellow. AND if its above 115 make it blue
wouldn't you just make two conditions and use else if
idk it works now
so
idk what changed
i literally just changed the blue one to yellow, copied it, and then just made another blue one
🤷♂️
@edgy widget would u play the OF build in dimensius as well?
No
so just regular whirlwind?
is there a sim string for soleahs?
There’s not much multitarget on dimensius in the first place
can you go thane on soul hunter hc with only 2 set or is it not as good ?
If your group prios adds you could very likely just go full ST on Demi Moore and let BS carry your cleave
Thane requires 4pc
ait i guess ill see how it goes on normal first
were doing nm splits then hc later this evening
freshly installed windows eta gg
fair, thought the range gain would take over regardless
^ my plan
do we send rampage as soon as it lights up
All the guides have a priority list
i thought thunderous roar was super low prio but on logs almost everyone is still using it with avatar every 1:30 - is the diff just super minor or? only 3 of top 35 myth plexus logs are using it infrequently as i thought we're meant to
can anyone share BIS M+ talent build? Murlok and raider both apis down cannot find anything solid outside of icy veins prepatch
It's so minor most of us macro and ignore
Telling someone to treat a 1:30 CD like slam is hard to do
Wild it's even there but here we are lmao
yeah it feels horrible
damn its the same i had before. thought there was more 😢
ty tho
fair enough - thanks 👍
The issue with thunderous roar is there isn’t even a minor stat node to take in its place
i like it it's funny
also means i have it in my pocket for random adds that show up misaligned with my cds
I put a second raging blow bind on roar bind in my ST talents 
I got AotC after you you're the better raider @warm crag
i dont have aotc
normal i think
heroic actually
-missile is being sent to your location
is fractillus hc the closest we ever gotten to a target dummy boss?
granted its because the WA but still
yea

Patchwerk exists
litteraly nothing going on
you go to marker then back to save spot and wait
wow king proud of you
i litteraly stood still for the first 50% cause i didnt get a mechanic
you can trivialize every encounter with wording like that
dimensius is such a terrible fight
i only dont like p1
p1 + p2 suck
nah dimensius is turbo dogshit
heroic ansurek felt harder than heroic dimensius
cause it was
so aids not being able to melee half of the time
god ansu’rek
altho maybe p3 is kinda sketch if you take too long cause deaths
queen ansurek, what kind of battles have you been through?
honestly at least ansurekt p1 was fun
idk heroic ansurek felt very jaina like
melee on p1 dimensius is pain
they were cool heroic bosses, nothing particular
make every boss hitbox like gallywix
Fr
I kinda miss Gallywix’s hitbox.
They got it so right then immediately got it wrong lol
its just ret palading range
Makes sense with the fight design for gally though
a spread on you, you can go in africa, no pressure
boss as big as stormwind
It doesn't need to be gally level, but the current on dimensius is stupid as hell
i only did deminensius in nm and very few pulls, i didn't notice weird hitbox, but it might be just me not noticing
i tried playing arms for a few pulls cause 2 execute phases but it wasnt worth it in p1 at all
phase 1 dimensius’s hands are annoying as hell.
Hand pov boss
it changes from feet pov with big bosses 
Is fury back
fallen avatar p2 
Never left
Nope
guys since cursed stone idol uses a gcd when do we cast it when bursting aoe?
Before everything else
it doesnt amp with our dam %up effects
but it does amp them
aight tysm

Is second wind just not doing shit anymore in m+ or does it still work in some places? i remember in s2 like on swampface my health would never move and now second wind not doing anything, i mean im not dying but just wondered if it was a fix i missed or something 😭
do yall know, in raid, with 2p do i prio BT over RB still?
or is it solely for above 3 targets thats the case+
With 2p : you play like in S2, where you press BT at certain crit conditions
u don't prio bt to begin with
anyone got any good rotation guides for slayer this season?
u only press it if itll probably crit
same guide as always same place as always

Yes you don’t prio BT> RB, only in >3 targets
2p modify and interact with sudden death, it only changes your sudden death conditions
Just got 2p. I glanced in here and saw people talking about Spear in M+ the other day. Is spear > roar?
i mean sw having that interaction with swampface doesnt always happen
It doesn't matter they both suck
Prob not unless we find a tank and healer
got it
We're prob just gonna pug them for a few weeks and push to enjoy the new season then get bored and quit cuz pugs suck
real
Just have 4 set, Which is better for dungeons now? MT or Slayer? Been slayer until now
MT
I love being out of melee for like half of the fight on dimensius
me too 🙂
MT is higher overall but slayer does significant prio/ST if your group already has aoe from an assa or something
Time for shattering throw to shine
I've been getting ~7m overalls as slayer just spamming rb
raging blow 57
don't forget
thats what im prob gonna have to do I play with an assa and an ele sham. Someone gotta hit the boss
can we jump over circles in p3 dimensius without getting debuff?
ty
Slayer is far more enjoyable than this thane iteration anyway lol
no
man I wanna order pizza but Idk when we're taking a break from splits into mythic
I’ve died like 3 different times thinking I could jump over black hole
yes i hate spear being a damage CD
spear bad
idk if thats true but i cant see it working a single time in any s3 swampface at least and obviously just from my own experience it always "worked" in the places it was known to like candleking and swampface or w/e
idk TB sound effect carries it for me so constantly spaming it is enjoyable. But ill prob swap once I get frustrated enough at the lottery that is Tier set procs
hot take ravager D tier
is that hamstring in A what is that
it's valid if it's without champion's might
that's a steaming take
yeah to me thunderblast is whirlwind with a skin, so it increase the effect for me "thane is plain fury"
real
i'm not impressed by the animation of thunderblast, if it was whirlwind blast, i wouldn't see the diff
oh i just realized theres not a single warrior in any of liquids 3 kills so far, or their current 4th boss prog
other thank tank obv
feelsbad
echo had revvez on loomithar
its the sound effect for me. Its so crisp
do you have a log
yes the sound effect is cool
I just don't like that some pulls it procs every 2s and sometimes you just sit there
but i can add sound effects with WAs
meanwhile demolish sounds so fucking weak and dinky
yeah the inconsistency will get to me eventually
demolish should set off a nuclear bomb on impact
visually and audibly
and also damage wise
i don't like demolish either, but purely because bad animation, i don't mind the can't move channeled ability
i think if thunderblast was more blasting + the lightning strikes were more apparent / like old thunderlod in League of Legends, it would be a cool ability
talking about the animation
99% of the fun of unstoppable force clap prot is the sound effect of thunderclap every other gcd, don't revolve only on that PLS
guys isnt forgeweaver like a 5 target add fight constantly
Depends if said adds last 0.0005 sec
just enough time for a bladestorm
If they don’t survive your bladestorm and you have it on all sets….
i think i know just the spec for this fight...
anyone have a good talent build for keys running 2+2pc
Yeah on mythic there is a thane angle 100%
If your comp struggle on the adds, you can fill
i hate when prot warrior is good
nerf it to the ground
it means i cant be forced to be in on every boss
Ppl already started to send raider.io data it is cringe they don’t understand prot exist
prot being good means my tank plays prot
oh shit you're right
I have 4pc now
Yes join the club, 0.1 sec m+ queue time
I get to actually play prot

reroll fotm
🙁
Rotation says not to worry about it but if talented into bloodcraze for m+ should we still be using the tracker or just doing priority casting?
It is only Dan from Method who participates in RWF (all bosses)
should I be playing thane for soul hunters before tier?
considering all of thanes power is in the 4pc right now nah
because they want double digit buffs
I figured out why I hate dimensius so much
it's his hand
his hand is covering my entire camera and I can't see anything
yeah welcome to hand pov fight
Hi all trying to get into fury and looking at players rotations https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Q8kc2XNBP9AzWamT?fight=16&type=summary&source=55. Is WW not used in aoe or am I stupid/blind
So in Aoe packs for mythic plus I shouldn't use it?
thunderclap replaces ww as thane
Only if you have literally nothing else to press
Which will happen maybe one time every 10 keys
But again that's only for thane
So you're saying it's rare 😛 so I should be using RB bloodthirst and ramp before ever WW
The last paragraph there is the important one
Yeah general priority as thane (once you have 4p) is TB > ramp > BT > RB > TC > exe > ww
and maintaining ww stacks through TC is also high priority, but will often happen naturally through your TB procs
Before you have 4pc you should probably play slayer though
Even in mythic?
Yes
even with 2pc, i should go slayer?
Probably
PSA, on loom do not charge @ the Infused Tangle add
unless you know how to not get hit by it, it pretty much always hits you
Fact
Dno wtf is up with hitboxes this time round
Have no1 tested a melee
Non ret
Yep died on our heroic kill thanks to that
Yes
Yea the thing has so little health in heroic*
And that was after I died on plexus because I charged in after first soak to help with second and all the ranges were lazy and missed it
Listen man you gotta do dirty things done dirt cheap to parse
There are people that wipe the raid if they are gonna parse bad....that sucks
Third boss felt pretty good as slayer with cleave talents
Inefficient
Is a bad way of playin
If i notice we struggle on a pull id switch
But on hc its dead
Wiping the raid because you’re just straight bad is worse imo
Just wait til it’s close enough to blade storm 😂
U are gettin it
Or if i have bladesotm rdy i leap and spin on it
Charge back into boss when bl done
Meh I hate to use leap for that on a fight with lots of puddles and shit
Even if they should be controlled enough
why is piercing h owl in d titer wtf
Well I helped you by giving you 1 dev lol
Yes reskinned whirlwind doesn’t affect me particularly, and heroic throw is neutral utility, like pummel, so they are B
bro what
It was an S2 tierlist for context
first of all its nnot a reskinned whirlwind
its a better reskinned tclap
thunder clap and whirlwind are not the same
are we using ST builds for Soulbinder?

What other resources like Raidbots are available? Where else can I check what other people are using the most?
Is that 3rd boss?
Archon and murlok.io
Warcraftlogs
Yes logs if you really want to see the most precise tool, archon/murlok for aggregated data
How is fury feeling this season?
Is Murlok PVP?
It has a m+ tab
Piercing howl a
TR has to be in D tier as well that spell is doo doo
Is it me or is the Loomithar hella bugged?
when i charge it doesn't put me in melee range
and somethings leap just doesn't work
sometimes*
i feel like wow got memory leak or smthing when i relaunch the game after some hours i gain like 20-30 fps
hey, in single target raid - do you let enrage drop off, or maintain it consistantly? i have let it drop off and then refresh on drop. completely new to fury
weird boss hit box yup
yes third boss
Aoe. There’s a lot of ads
11 Arakara, We. Are. BACK!! frost dk and ele both outgeared me too
and i got a sacbrood, w
All this fdk hype and every time I see a screenshot or I do a dungeon with them, they're at the bottom
FOTM rerollers
I guess
....damn fury nerfs just dropped
Are you running mountain thane or slayer
MT
off topic question but i just did and timed a 10 taza streets and didnt get the achievment nor the portal
any reason why?
it could be because u havent also timed gambit or because its just bugged this week
You have to time 10 gambit too
There's a hot fix coming on reset I think that fixes it
I put it in B because Im mitigated on the spell itself, but it is not a overall bad spell, I didn’t project tuning (it was middle-late S2) when I judged these
maybe if the bleed buff was in any way relevant
for us it's just a press button do damage
which is boring
Yes I try to remove the current tuning bias for the tierlist
So at the end it is a B for me, because it is a launch a forget spell
And I was cool in S1
But it is launch and forget
If it had a lil bump on enemies (even a fake one) it can become a cool looking spell too
unyielding netherprism isnt all that for us is it?
i.e. someone wants to buy my hero track one lmao
a dk
sell it
275k dude offering
bruh
When playing thane in m plus - when u get buffed BT does it take prio over raging blow in ST
My guild just doesnt wanna give me a set piece
didnt even sim high for me lmao
everything takes prio over rb
rb is filler for thane
yeah
Same bro same
Even Bt over 35% in ST?
yes
if u arent getting 500k for a bis item its not worth it
resets are huge
Thanks
375k is like a singular heroic sale
are you proud of me now chat
man id sell a bis item for a [Bleach] and 7 gold
catch me getting that bag
but its pretty good for a trinket that we dont care about
Not doing 6 mil, therefore bad damage 
🥲
Not bottom dps, therefore good 
Do you tried tazavesh HM ?
Is that mm+12 equivalent no ?
What belt power you guys are running with usualy..i see on raider IO most are running the lightning rod one.
Critical Chain
wouldn't be surprised if spark burst has gained some ground but I haven't simmed it in a while
Belt is also getting replaced week 2/3
sims still say critical chain
If you get a shit vault maybe
When you will get your second or third craft, your belt WOOSH (if you didn’t replace it before)
Finding sometimes when pop cds and charging I'm not having enough for a Ramp
Is it because im popping it to early on the pull before charging?
If it’s 79 rage, it’s because you are out of combat
If you have less, it’s another issue
I’d rather not waste the gilded crests on a belt craft unless I get cucked
So is it at one sec we'd pop it?
Also its on a boss pull so not sure how i could be in combat?
You don’t craft on cd ?
I use my Gilded Crests where they benefit the most
Getting 2 myth tracks is better than 1
- there is a gap now in myth tracks lvl, I don’t remember which one give 4 ilvl
There’s a 3 ilvl difference between crafting and myth
710->714
You… can do both
No shit
It all depends on a bunch of different factors but a 723 belt even is hardly an upgrade
It’s like a 10k dps gain
Yes, this tier is weird with so many slots locked
I really wonder what I will do as second craft
You aren’t doing Weapon then Bracers?
In no world I spend 60 gilded in bracers unless I have no other slot available
use the hc crest dummy
You craft with the free runed one
Then Gilded much later
It use my spark
For bracers
The effect don’t scale with ilvl
I don’t think you think of it as “wasting crests on bracers”, you think of it as not locking off other slots to much bigger upgrades from raid
(Yes at the end I will have crafted bracers)
with ur 2nd spark ye
3rd
Ye
i mean not much else to craft
we craft that good boi 2hander
684 Bracers to 720 bracers > 701 delve belt to 723 Myth belt most likely btw
I will craft whatever sim good / compare with raid loot available and slap writhing on it and play with 704 bracers
You can sim yourself but belt upgrades will be so minor
Even 704 bracers should out perform
Slayer or MT?
Yes, it will be either : bracers, off piece or belt, now that I think about it, there is not a lot of slot left
S2 I did boots as second
I've had similar overalls in ara kara as both
Sorry i'm getting to 79 rage when i charge in so is the best thoing to charge and heroic throw?
heroic throw > reck > charge > ava
I see
11 flood on slayer
lmao
he was hella undergeared
@bold bearwhat ilevel u are
@bold bear hi
the answer to stat questions is usually just sim it
is it still worth sending 5 rb after bs with 4pc?
I rb until I run out of charges or drop enrage after bs
^
yo guys is fury more fun this season than before? i saw 4 set looks really nice but knowing the usual 'trying to pug keys as a fury' i was thinking if i should just go prot this season
I find it a decent bit more fun, getting to press execute all the time is a nice change
pugging is still rough though
tyty
i mean i was thinking about thane 4set cuz slayer aint really my fav
w cone
fair, thane 4p is insane when you hit the lottery and get to spam thunder blast
I don't like how inconsistent it can feel though
You should be getting even lot more invs, since now we are part of strong comp,
fair, i played prot in s1 when we were getting giga nerfed
and it was quite fun
i made a 2nd char tho for the crafts
are you thane or slayer also how many tier pieces do you have
slayer, 2pcs
yeah youre doing something hella wrong. im 2 piece and i suck and im ususally in the 4 to 5 mil area
as slayer
you may be sending it too often without it being an sd proc or having stacks
i mean sending is good most of the time
That is some curesed dps
are you using the sd condition weakaura?
but in mplus theres a bit more nuance to what you need to do based on how many enemies are around you
what's that
i just mash buttons unga bunga style
Like bloodthirst with more than 6 targets?
"Fury Slayer Sudden Death Conditions"
yeah like that. thankfully once you get 4 piece you just thane and unga
Hi btw, just joined and got a similar problem as sneak
but just sending execute too early with 2p shouldn't be that big of an impact on your damage
So with 6 or more targets, less ranging blows, but more bloodthirst into rampage?
tb > bt > ramp
tb as slayer wild
is slayer any good on mythic now ?
even in game im premature 🥲
It also depends on if you have 4 set or not, cause then raging flow has a chance to proc the spin as well as bt but essentially yes 6 plus targets means more bts
the addon gives you a report lol?
Where are you checking this?
wowanalyzer
depending on comp yes, the guy doing rank 1 keys is playing slayer (with ass rogue to make up for the lost aoe)
it's a site
does it exist for other specs too?
wowanaylzer freaks out in keys a lot
Thanks!
there you go...
i mean this just out of context
like
if you are max rage with no ww stacks you ww to be able to cleave with rampage
or
at least i know what to look out for
can you link your log
new 4 set is very interactive in keys 
is raidbots quick sim a good indicator of dps in m+
were you pressing rb over bt in aoe
what kind of sim are you thinking of doing
yeah
dungeon slice
fury apl isnt optimized for dungeon slice
Raging Blow repeatedly after Bladestorm, to build up Slaughtering Strikes for a bigger Rampage
Was following this
sim 1t 5m 5-x t 40s
you see how it says after bladestorm
that only applies to the first rampage after
what coded language is this haha
hi! sorry for the maybe bad question but how does fury warr feel rn? looking for an alt and i used to main fury (arms when it was better) back in sl, how does fury feel in terms of fluidness/rotation compared to before?
when is before?
why are we MT for M+, but Slayer for multitarget in raids?
fury good
just came back since sl so i have no idea how classes feel to play and dont wanna spend time levelling classes i wont play
as a new fury, i'm enjoying it
shadowlands
1 target 5 minutes, 5-x(any amount of targets) 40 seconds
because in keys you dont just pull 5 targets
slayer has much higher st damage in aoe spec, you want most of your damage in raid to be against the boss
and adds in raid die fast usually
after the 1st rampage, i spam BT targets >3?
so you say it feels good? dont really mind the dps tier lists that much as im already maining shammy so im fine with that just want something thats fun to play
and if the mains say it feels good then it feels good
enh shamans are crying for example
if you like high APM, go fury
Anybody encountered problem with hardmode not giving +10 contribution to great vault?
It's big unga if that' your vibe
yes but remember to always have ww buff when hitting more than one target
yea used to love it in sl, will go with it thanks!
just wanted to make sure its not in some junky state
rampage > ww > BT > RB?
read the pin again
do u think astral antenna is good for mythic + ? I'm missing lot of buff because mooving. Maybe cursed idol is better ?
im figuring out when to w w
The DPS tier lists are also gonna be a little bit weird for Fury anyways.
Since Blizzard's decided that we're just gonna be target capped for most of out stuff, Fury will preform better than its average in lower or more casual keys with more reasonable or relaxed pulls, than when the tanks are pulling boss to boss.
Only ww when you need meat cleaver stacks
I hate that 1 sec cast time on cursed idol
you ww every 5 globals
back to the target dummies
Woo got my 4p 🙂
It’s beans, but like 4 other trinkets that are all just as good or a bit better
Cast time trinkets can die in fire
Thane
Yeah I've just made peace with taking a slight sacrifice in DPS to use Trinkets that aren't clunky
A choice I also often make
Hahaha that’s the same shaman I ran with and beat in dps. We’re putting him through it today
How ironic that he's mad about warrior, but brings an absolutely bangin' buff for us
he's going to zone out of the instance to buff himself in the future
Like my dude you yourself can nerf Warrior by just fucking around with your buff
Being target capped has been so brutal seeing so many uncapped classes just blasting on lust pulls and im just wailing on my 5 targets outside of bstorm and roar.
I mean you’ll never win the big pull, but you’ll likely crush on the very next pull cuz they all busted and you’re already up for round 2
what's the ilvl to get into a NM pug raid?
depends on the group
I get the idea that it's like "okay we want classes to have their own identities where they all have different things they excel at" and I don't disagree with that idea....
... But it only works in a vacuum
should be fine at like 680 or even less but some people are ass hats
Feasting on those mid sized pulls
it just means you pick the classes most closely matched to the best performing profile and roll with them.
Is havoc as giga blasting in m+ as archon suggests or is this some week 1 shenanigans
Havoc is blasting
whats so special about the new dungeon tthatt i have 120 sign ups
a lot of people want that trinket
i'm 676
1.5 min mastery on use... if that trinket has Strength on it we'd prolly be farming it too
so we go for 2h craft right fellas
if its your embellishment and you dont get a myth weapon in vault
Is there a consensus on when to use antenna vs First Boss/ Last Boss Trinket?
thunderous roar is so low on our priority list as fury slayer ST, almost wonder if it's worth having a 1.5 min CD at that low of a priority
IIRC logs treat M+ as one really long encounter so it fucks with the downtime and cooldown efficiency calculations. Accounting for all of that would be orders of magnitude more work though so I just can't be bothered
M+ logs are cooked anyways idk
Way too much going on, too many variables to account for
Just study vods imo
m+ logs are just seeing deaths damage on bosses kicks stuff like that
Watch CritCake, guess their gcds, if you’re wrong, take a shot.
Can I send OF with Titanic rage or should I be enraged first?
u can send
It enrages before damage
gm banezi xantage
rare banezi sighting
Greetings
yeah a fair bit
thanks guys ❤️
mthane 4set so spammy need a WA for those TB procs
hello banezi
w
i watched senses dimensius vod today and saw you and learned how to not die on dimensius by astral projecting into your mind at that moment
get bennett skin
lets go
W
you had a lot of sussy things in your mind at that moment but i wont tell
holy
then on to fontaine



