#fury

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rotund ginkgo
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so u just have more aoe

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its not an add fight its a council fight and consistent aoe is better there than cleave aoe so

smoky vale
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gm

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i cant find the one piece opening i was singing yo myself

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gg

rain cloud
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is the suddent death aura working good?¿

weary sinew
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got one of those too afraid to ask questions.

what doe sthe % mean above bloodthirst here? And what should I look to be doing with it

gleaming siren
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Crit chance

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With new tier, nothing

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It's something you played around with old tier

weary sinew
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ah okay so dont really bother looking at it then?

gleaming siren
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I'm going to remove that number from my UI once I have new tier

warm crag
gleaming siren
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Hello Spongie57

warm crag
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just a previous (or current) version also had it kaching at 1x mfe application in execute which results in a lot of kachings

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Hello anda57

undone flower
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Something glows and it is useless : remove asap

smoky vale
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hi spongus schmungus

uneven plaza
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How rare is the Floodgate weapon? Have done like ~23 Runs haven't seen it once

thick fossil
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Got it on the second run. Thankfully it was a 10, so I didn't have to spend crests.

thick fossil
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Haven't seen a Pacemaker yet, and it took 5 runs of Ara-Kara for a sac-brood.

undone flower
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Yeah me too I didn’t see pace drop yet

uneven plaza
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got it 3 Times xan Didn't see weapon tho as i said

thick fossil
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I think I'm good on trinkets though. I have the cursed idol, arcano raid trinket, and a sac-brood.

undone flower
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Yeah that’s how rng goes, I got sacbrood and idol the first +10 of those keys I do

thick fossil
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Been farming priory for the ring, that's the next big upgrade from droptimizer.

undone flower
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But I had to do 15 dungeons to get my second hero piece to catalyst for tier

thick fossil
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Yeah, I'm stuck at 2pc till Tuesday.

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6 heroic slots and 3 mythic. Tier is gonna be in at least 2 of em.

nocturne oyster
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Do you guys know how much dps we should be doing in m+? i am frequenting about 3.3mil with 684ilvl and 2piece

undone flower
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100% a weapon on all of my 3 myth slots

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I was doing 5.5m - 6.5m with 2p but 695

nocturne oyster
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hmmm

undone flower
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Dawn and streets were closer to 5m

nocturne oyster
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are you slayer?

undone flower
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Yes

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I will thane now with 4p, but I didn’t do a key since I got it

nocturne oyster
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Maybe i don't understand how fury works anymore then lmao

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how do we burst? is it not just pop all our CD's at the same time, and thats it?

undone flower
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In aoe with 2p : it is really important you stick to the same target, and press BT on CD in aoe

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You slam execute sudden death and send everything on cd on your main target

nocturne oyster
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why is BT important?

undone flower
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It procs reap (a slayer talent in the middle of slayer tree)

nocturne oyster
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ooooh

undone flower
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4p makes it so RB procs reap too

nocturne oyster
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Aaaaah

undone flower
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That’s why you see a change

nocturne oyster
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so right now BT has higher prio?

undone flower
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But if you don’t have 4p S3, you press BT on cd with 3 targets

nocturne oyster
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Damn

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Thanks man

undone flower
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I was still rolling with hack n slash, but it shouldn’t be important

rotund ginkgo
fading sky
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New 2p is like 400k upgrade r? So hard to best any1 with 2p

fading sky
marsh gale
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In m+ is it worth always delaying avatar to line up with all the rest of the cds?

fading sky
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Nah

marsh gale
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Or you just send it and thats it?

fading sky
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Reck give avatar

marsh gale
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Yeah thats true

plush zephyr
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<@&257983573498265600>

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Oop lol

outer locust
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Full send it homie. The warrior way.

uneven plaza
undone flower
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Im at 41 keys this week

azure holly
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should I use the HC crest token for weapon or save for something after weapon?

undone flower
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And I got 3 belts keks

undone flower
azure holly
undone flower
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So it depends if you care about those runes crests

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(I don’t / I upgraded 701 wep still I’m not crazy to spend more than 15 on this)

devout zodiac
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Does 2 and 4 set change slayer rotation at all?

undone flower
azure holly
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and I have 704 weapon already also

undone flower
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I guess like S1 and S2, you will not use it

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If you have access to gilded crafting

azure holly
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that's what I mean, for us it seems obsolete

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by the time we have our 3rd spark, surely there's nothing worth using it to craft for

undone flower
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Yes it is obsolete for me / the only context I would use it : when I will recraft my S2 wrists into S3, I might use the runed crest one

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But I didn’t in S1 and S2

undone flower
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So it is close to obsolete if you have access to gilded

azure holly
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I guess maybe if you got a mythic weapon right away on thursday it could be worth potponing the weapon craft

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that's like the only conceivable way to use it

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but probably not unless the rest of the gear is ass

undone flower
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I think you still craft a wep if you get a myth wep

azure holly
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yeah hc to mythic wep is still pretty big

undone flower
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Because spending 75 gilded in that myth wep would be 60 wasted

latent ledge
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I dont see a scenario where as fury you dont craft weapon on reset tbh

flat river
undone flower
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Massive reset

flat river
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then u can see it happening

flat river
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bro

latent ledge
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yeah wed im powerspiking to oblivion

flat river
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i crafted stuff for 3 shammys

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daggers

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and they crafted int instead of agi

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each time

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😭

undone flower
flat river
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or opposite

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one of the two

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i think it happened to a rouge too

undone flower
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The only crafts I saw in my guild are off-hands

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I didn’t check everyone

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I have no clue about caster gear strat, but in my mind a staff is big pp no ?

rotund ginkgo
fading sky
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oh i trust u

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but like ive gotten nothin

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not even useless loot 😛

rotund ginkgo
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It was god awful doing 6mil overalls day 1 and now doing 7 feels weak cuz all the warriors got funneled 4p

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But happyslayer still sandbags

fathom jay
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Just trying again, sorry for the spam?

I've tried simming 1 target 5 mins, 8 targets 1 min and dungeon slice and they all give different results (of course) so I'm a bit unsure what to use.

I have mythic track Pacemake from last season, 691 Screams of a Forgotten Sky, Hero track 694 Eradicating Arcanocore, Hero track 697 Sacbrood and Hero track 697 Cursed Stone Idol.

Just never been this lucky with tinkets so I'm kinda out of my depths with what to choose and what is like an obvious future proof choice or whatever other than looking at BIS items but the BIS trinket like Screams 691 is out performed by a Funhouse Lens 671???

forest knot
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Just sim 5 or 8 target

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8 target if you think they keys you do will do that big enough pulls often enough

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just keep them all and use them in the situations they are good. Thats future proofing

hard widget
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xd

undone flower
fathom jay
chrome plover
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I like the stone idol in keys rn tbh

hard widget
forest knot
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Your gonna have to use your noggin m+ sim is like 30% intuition and can't really walk you thru that

hard widget
undone flower
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Why I had a diff number

hard widget
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Oh i linked my myth raid logs

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Not my dunge logs

undone flower
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Yes it is not real logs on points

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So you can see how many keys you did, even if you didn’t log them

hard widget
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No clue

undone flower
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You played thane in priory with 2p ?

hard widget
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Yeah

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I cba'd to swap

undone flower
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It didn’t do as bad I would think

night obsidian
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Hows damage with new set? played a key with last season tier set, and its completly dogshit dps in keys xP

digital mauve
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What's the poit of having weapons that drops on mythic+ and raids if we can just craft both weapons ourselves? Never understood that

polar narwhal
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Did someone with overcap lose their crests?

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Just to confirm this response I got.

chrome plover
thick fossil
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Yes

chrome plover
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and just because you can doesn’t necessarily mean you should, it’s nice to have options

fast mural
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isnt the crafted one still BiS for offhand

forest knot
thick fossil
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No cantrip weapons this tier, so any mythic weapon in vault should last a long time.

digital mauve
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Okok

chrome plover
# forest knot Wait what

there’s a quest when you do t11 delve to do a mythic+ and it gives 15 gilded that ignores cap

keen dove
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its an AI answer

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so try again

digital mauve
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So how fury is doing in Raid rn ? Was hoping to pug raid later today

chrome plover
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but for some people it didn’t give them crests

forest knot
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Ok I thought they were taking them back if you were over cap

chrome plover
forest knot
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Last I checked i had 105

polar narwhal
keen dove
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its ai

polar narwhal
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They fixed it and possibly next reset those with 105 now have 105/180 next reset.

keen dove
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trust me

chrome plover
forest knot
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Im paranoid now I think ima spend em

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Lmao

chrome plover
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they are supposed to ignore cap

digital mauve
polar narwhal
chrome plover
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the bug was people NOT getting them

polar narwhal
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No.

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The bug was them ignoring cap.

chrome plover
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they did last tier for same quest

polar narwhal
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Nope.

chrome plover
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the blizz response also leans towards my side

keen dove
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bro everyone has 105 crests except few ppl

chrome plover
keen dove
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its literally intended quest

digital mauve
chrome plover
digital mauve
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Oh

chrome plover
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but I think it’s pretty good yeah

polar narwhal
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Ok. Big L then. They added compensation quest last season when people got extra crafting fragment through an exploit too, but I guess not for this.

chrome plover
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Yeah it’s a less widespread issue than that

digital mauve
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Im just afraid of being refused to pug both on raid and m+ because of the spec and my lower Io

chrome plover
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Or also less significant in their eyes

digital mauve
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Just returned to wow this season since s1

chrome plover
digital mauve
keen dove
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play tank

bitter palm
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low keys are a pain

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but once u get to 10s its free

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beyond that is gonna be hard unless its phys comp

chrome plover
chrome plover
bitter palm
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i am also low ilvl

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2p+2p 689 atm

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was 685 when i started doing 10s

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still beating pugs tho xdd

chrome plover
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ofc

bitter palm
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also the reason 10s are free

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is cause u just wait for the hof raiders filling their vaults for splits

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pugging your own key will always be the easiest way

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if u dont have a group

magic hull
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anyone know if it matters what tier delve we use our quartz on to summon boss? or just the tier we do for delvers bounty

latent steeple
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after first reck+avatar, the following reck/avatar doesn't line up, just send whatever if off cd?

hard widget
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send on cd

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They will realign

pulsar quest
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send everything on cd always

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the more u think the less dmg u do

latent steeple
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damn, i'm liking this spec a bit more already

polar narwhal
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me warrior no think

latent steeple
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unga bunga style

carmine canopy
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there is only zug zug

carmine canopy
undone flower
hollow nest
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Hello fella gamers. I am new to playing fury warrior. Where could I find some good tips about gear and rotation ( m+ and raid ) for this season and about warriors in general

undone flower
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Yesterday* I forgot someone said it in my guild before the news

hollow nest
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Wowhead do not even say which gear is most likely do turn in tier set 💀

polar narwhal
# undone flower

Yes, I know, that is why I made a ticket. They just confirmed it for me.

junior oyster
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Wowhead's got all the stuff about gear

polar narwhal
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Still shit there is no retrofix for those that missed it.

undone flower
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There are things they don’t keep track I guess, so they can’t do shit about it, similar to vault bugs

frank dawn
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Is the dimensius trinket simbait for any reason? It just seems like we’re one of the only classes it’s top tier for

hollow nest
earnest canyon
undone flower
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this ?

sweet sinew
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Does anyone know if there are any good trinkets from ulduar?

rugged carbon
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Hi, new warrior here, how much worse is SMF compared to Titan's Grip

fading sky
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Enuff

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Just get 2handera

onyx linden
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and ppl invite these ppl to keys because they are meta

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20 deaths, overtime 10dawn, like how

lapis eagle
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Good combo chat ?

onyx linden
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get these

bitter palm
bitter palm
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im cooked chat

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stone idol legit

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wont drop

onyx linden
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thats in my bank, dont like channel on use trinkets

hollow nest
bitter palm
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its passaive

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it just procs and u get some haste

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i dont even notice it

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out of last 10 keys i had like 5 dawnbreaker

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and there is legit nothing

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i can get from that dungeon

hardy shuttle
onyx linden
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i need 4 loot from dawm keks all 697 and need 701

onyx linden
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for literally EVERY key, i dont even check rio or anything anymore

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just want to play

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not getting invited in 699, new 4 set, all 10s +2 is very cringe

bitter palm
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ye i just pug my own perma

undone flower
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I want to pug my own, but Wednesday we didn’t do my key, so I still have a 2 in my bags, I’m kinda lazy

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I might grind my key tonight, but I don’t think i will do lot of m+ before reset

sweet sapphire
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Yo all quick question about brutal finish/Slaughtering Strikes

I see this one wowhead - Does this mean that we delay Rampage, untill we are out of raging blow charges, even if we go above 115 rage, after every bladestorm ?

delicate mirage
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Hey for this season are we just not push BT unless we have nothing else?

shell parcel
undone flower
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Until no raging blow, not enraged anymore or 5 stack of slaughtering strike (not the most common condition)

delicate mirage
delicate mirage
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Cool thanks

onyx linden
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you sim aoe?

shell parcel
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i do sim dungeon slice tbh xd

onyx linden
modest condor
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cursed stone idol is really strong on aoe

onyx linden
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on aoe yea

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but i hate using it

shell parcel
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fair i was thinking simming for DS is better when u mainly focus on m+

undone flower
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You bound idol to a specific macro ? I saw someone suggest with charge

onyx linden
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but you cant go wrong simming for st

shell parcel
onyx linden
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1 sec

undone flower
shell parcel
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idk if i get it if I will have a macro for it tho

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Can someone tell me in the slayer build do we always get 5 stacks of SS or just send it when enrage falls of

mild coral
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where to find the ideal talents for each MFO fight? just checking on warcraftlogs?

undone flower
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It is a weird one for sure, I don’t feel I really want to reck+ava+ charge if it’s to press it as my first global

manic ore
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This is for "Single target boss figth" when i sim my weapons i still sim highest with Authority of the Depths. But guides says Oath one is best.

fading sky
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Check difference

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How much%

manic ore
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-0.1% if i go Main-hand Oath and Off-hand Depths
-0.2% if i go Both weap Oath

wintry shuttle
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depths is strictly single target so it should sim higher on straight ST

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oath gets more benefit when you start adding other targets/adds in

fading sky
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Then sim 5 target

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Or somethin

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Heck check 2 targets

manic ore
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I know for multiple targets, was just confused due to guides even suggesting it, on single target figths

fading sky
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Versa adds some defense

manic ore
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Also why i set the notion of "Single Target boss figth"

wintry shuttle
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most people arent changing enchants every boss so they recommend the best universal enchant

fading sky
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Depts scales worse

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Is all

dense elbow
frozen portal
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Nobody likes 8 keys right

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I put one up and no bites even as tank

fickle cedar
fickle cedar
frozen portal
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Okay true so I should bump down to get pugs

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To 6 or is 7 okay

fickle cedar
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both are okay they drop the same (1/6 hero), one drops runics and the other gilded tho

undone flower
raven oxide
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which talents

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are good for tazavesh streets?

rotund ginkgo
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any WA gamer to help me?

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its a simple thing but it doesnt really work and idk why

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i want my rage to be yellow when its between 80-110 and to be blue when its above 110

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but i dont get the yellow one, only the blue

rotund ginkgo
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yeah sure which 1

solemn remnant
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do you need the gradient for yellow? could you just change the default base colour to yellow ie not in conditions

rotund ginkgo
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for example this is for the yellow, aura 4 talent known is slayer's strike so it registers im on slayer

rotund ginkgo
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i have gradients on my bars

solemn remnant
rotund ginkgo
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this functions just fine

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so like, above 115 it turns blue

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as u can see, still red

solemn remnant
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why don't you put it all in one condition?

rotund ginkgo
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functions fine

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i dont know how lol

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i can have it all in one condition?

solemn remnant
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i think so, but not at my pc to check it

latent steeple
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my first go as fury. feelsbadman

solemn remnant
solemn remnant
edgy widget
latent steeple
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im mashing my buttons, i swear

edgy widget
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But it’s no more unrealistic than pacemaker dracthyr_shrug

safe current
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with the new 4p should i send proc of sd instant or steal wait for 2 proc / 3 stakcs

rotund ginkgo
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ok i dont get it

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how am i supposed to have a single condition be:
if its above 80 and below 115, make it yellow. AND if its above 115 make it blue

jagged ledge
rotund ginkgo
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idk it works now

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so

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idk what changed

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i literally just changed the blue one to yellow, copied it, and then just made another blue one

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🤷‍♂️

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@edgy widget would u play the OF build in dimensius as well?

edgy widget
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No

rotund ginkgo
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so just regular whirlwind?

hasty tree
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is there a sim string for soleahs?

rotund ginkgo
edgy widget
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There’s not much multitarget on dimensius in the first place

fickle cedar
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can you go thane on soul hunter hc with only 2 set or is it not as good ?

edgy widget
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If your group prios adds you could very likely just go full ST on Demi Moore and let BS carry your cleave

rotund ginkgo
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ait i guess ill see how it goes on normal first

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were doing nm splits then hc later this evening

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freshly installed windows eta gg

fickle cedar
jovial mauve
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we doing anything different for single target dps?

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from last season

latent steeple
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do we send rampage as soon as it lights up

echo rapids
buoyant cape
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i thought thunderous roar was super low prio but on logs almost everyone is still using it with avatar every 1:30 - is the diff just super minor or? only 3 of top 35 myth plexus logs are using it infrequently as i thought we're meant to

inner edge
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can anyone share BIS M+ talent build? Murlok and raider both apis down cannot find anything solid outside of icy veins prepatch

restive peak
junior gale
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Telling someone to treat a 1:30 CD like slam is hard to do

restive peak
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Wild it's even there but here we are lmao

fickle cedar
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yeah it feels horrible

inner edge
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ty tho

buoyant cape
echo rapids
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The issue with thunderous roar is there isn’t even a minor stat node to take in its place

brittle crow
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also means i have it in my pocket for random adds that show up misaligned with my cds

undone flower
gleaming siren
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I got AotC after you you're the better raider @warm crag

gleaming siren
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wtf

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nvm

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I thought you did

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based or

warm crag
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normal i think

gleaming siren
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heroic actually

warm crag
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her -missile is being sent to your location

fast mural
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is fractillus hc the closest we ever gotten to a target dummy boss?

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granted its because the WA but still

smoky vale
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i got aotc 2 days ago

gleaming siren
smoky vale
gleaming siren
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Patchwerk exists

gaunt loom
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done

fast mural
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you go to marker then back to save spot and wait

gleaming siren
fast mural
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i litteraly stood still for the first 50% cause i didnt get a mechanic

warm crag
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you can trivialize every encounter with wording like that

gleaming siren
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nah

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Fractillus is for sure

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ultra dogshit

fast mural
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the only hope is mythic

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but i dont see it not being solved the same way

hollow leaf
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dimensius is such a terrible fight

fast mural
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i only dont like p1

hollow leaf
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p1 + p2 suck

smoky vale
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nah dimensius is turbo dogshit

gaunt loom
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heroic ansurek felt harder than heroic dimensius

fast mural
smoky vale
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so aids not being able to melee half of the time

gaunt loom
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god ansu’rek

fast mural
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altho maybe p3 is kinda sketch if you take too long cause deaths

gaunt loom
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queen ansurek, what kind of battles have you been through?

fast mural
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honestly at least ansurekt p1 was fun

undone flower
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idk heroic ansurek felt very jaina like

fast mural
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melee on p1 dimensius is pain

undone flower
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they were cool heroic bosses, nothing particular

restive peak
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If they fix the hitboxes it's a cool fight

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Current hitbox is dogshit

fast mural
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make every boss hitbox like gallywix

restive peak
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Fr

gaunt loom
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I kinda miss Gallywix’s hitbox.

restive peak
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They got it so right then immediately got it wrong lol

undone flower
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tbh gallywix is too much in the other way

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you can hit the boss wherever you are

fast mural
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its just ret palading range

restive peak
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Makes sense with the fight design for gally though

undone flower
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a spread on you, you can go in africa, no pressure

fast mural
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boss as big as stormwind

restive peak
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It doesn't need to be gally level, but the current on dimensius is stupid as hell

fast mural
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and you cant get uptime

undone flower
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i only did deminensius in nm and very few pulls, i didn't notice weird hitbox, but it might be just me not noticing

fast mural
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i tried playing arms for a few pulls cause 2 execute phases but it wasnt worth it in p1 at all

gaunt loom
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phase 1 dimensius’s hands are annoying as hell.

junior gale
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Hand pov boss

undone flower
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it changes from feet pov with big bosses keks

heady wedge
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Is fury back

junior gale
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Never left

dense elbow
dire canyon
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guys since cursed stone idol uses a gcd when do we cast it when bursting aoe?

dense elbow
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Before everything else

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it doesnt amp with our dam %up effects

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but it does amp them

dire canyon
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aight tysm

dense elbow
mint ember
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Is second wind just not doing shit anymore in m+ or does it still work in some places? i remember in s2 like on swampface my health would never move and now second wind not doing anything, i mean im not dying but just wondered if it was a fix i missed or something 😭

nocturne oyster
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do yall know, in raid, with 2p do i prio BT over RB still?

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or is it solely for above 3 targets thats the case+

undone flower
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With 2p : you play like in S2, where you press BT at certain crit conditions

brittle crow
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u don't prio bt to begin with

hybrid bone
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anyone got any good rotation guides for slayer this season?

brittle crow
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u only press it if itll probably crit

brittle crow
undone flower
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Yes you don’t prio BT> RB, only in >3 targets

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2p modify and interact with sudden death, it only changes your sudden death conditions

slender glen
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Just got 2p. I glanced in here and saw people talking about Spear in M+ the other day. Is spear > roar?

smoky vale
junior gale
smoky vale
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bozo

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wre you gonna push

junior gale
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Prob not unless we find a tank and healer

slender glen
junior gale
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We're prob just gonna pug them for a few weeks and push to enjoy the new season then get bored and quit cuz pugs suck

smoky vale
#

real

agile token
#

Just have 4 set, Which is better for dungeons now? MT or Slayer? Been slayer until now

pine gust
#

MT

hollow leaf
#

I love being out of melee for like half of the fight on dimensius

hollow leaf
pine gust
#

Time for shattering throw to shine

hollow leaf
#

I've been getting ~7m overalls as slayer just spamming rb

smoky vale
#

raging blow 57

undone flower
#

don't forget

junior gale
halcyon hollow
#

can we jump over circles in p3 dimensius without getting debuff?

bitter palm
#

fury is crazy

#

on st

halcyon hollow
#

ty

restive peak
hollow leaf
#

man I wanna order pizza but Idk when we're taking a break from splits into mythic

full crow
undone flower
#

yes i hate spear being a damage CD

brittle crow
#

spear bad

mint ember
junior gale
quiet prawn
brittle crow
hollow leaf
#

it's valid if it's without champion's might

hollow leaf
undone flower
#

yeah to me thunderblast is whirlwind with a skin, so it increase the effect for me "thane is plain fury"

hollow leaf
#

real

undone flower
#

i'm not impressed by the animation of thunderblast, if it was whirlwind blast, i wouldn't see the diff

pulsar quest
#

oh i just realized theres not a single warrior in any of liquids 3 kills so far, or their current 4th boss prog

#

other thank tank obv

#

feelsbad

undone flower
#

echo had revvez on loomithar

junior gale
undone flower
#

yes the sound effect is cool

restive peak
undone flower
#

but i can add sound effects with WAs

junior gale
junior gale
pulsar quest
#

demolish should set off a nuclear bomb on impact

#

visually and audibly

#

and also damage wise

undone flower
#

i don't like demolish either, but purely because bad animation, i don't mind the can't move channeled ability

junior gale
#

Steal poe2 mace class sound effects

#

with the aftershcoks

#

that should be arms

pulsar quest
#

just steal from ur own game

#

diablo has barbarians

#

with big smashes

undone flower
#

i think if thunderblast was more blasting + the lightning strikes were more apparent / like old thunderlod in League of Legends, it would be a cool ability

#

talking about the animation

#

99% of the fun of unstoppable force clap prot is the sound effect of thunderclap every other gcd, don't revolve only on that PLS

pulsar quest
#

guys isnt forgeweaver like a 5 target add fight constantly

undone flower
#

Depends if said adds last 0.0005 sec

pulsar quest
#

just enough time for a bladestorm

undone flower
#

If they don’t survive your bladestorm and you have it on all sets….

pulsar quest
ivory ingot
#

anyone have a good talent build for keys running 2+2pc

young swan
#

at least on mythic

#

u could prob thane tho

undone flower
#

Yeah on mythic there is a thane angle 100%

#

If your comp struggle on the adds, you can fill

young swan
#

i think u can thane even on heroic

#

as long as u have 4pc anyway

pulsar quest
#

i hate when prot warrior is good

#

nerf it to the ground

#

it means i cant be forced to be in on every boss

undone flower
#

Ppl already started to send raider.io data it is cringe they don’t understand prot exist

ivory ingot
#

why hate prot just spam tclap and ss and chill

pulsar quest
#

prot being good means my tank plays prot

hollow leaf
#

I have 4pc now

undone flower
#

Yes join the club, 0.1 sec m+ queue time

hollow leaf
#

I get to actually play prot

pulsar quest
#

which means my raid has b shout

#

which means im BENCHED!!!

#

what a cruel world

ivory ingot
modern elm
ivory ingot
#

reroll fotm

modern elm
#

🙁

languid willow
#

Rotation says not to worry about it but if talented into bloodcraze for m+ should we still be using the tracker or just doing priority casting?

ornate gust
orchid brook
#

should I be playing thane for soul hunters before tier?

junior gale
#

considering all of thanes power is in the 4pc right now nah

compact knot
#

Why is the ret discord still closed

#

Hope they get nerfed

junior gale
#

because they want double digit buffs

hollow leaf
#

I figured out why I hate dimensius so much

#

it's his hand

#

his hand is covering my entire camera and I can't see anything

junior gale
#

yeah welcome to hand pov fight

outer tartan
winter shoal
#

Thane uses thunder clap/thunder blast instead

#

Only slayer uses ww

outer tartan
#

So in Aoe packs for mythic plus I shouldn't use it?

hollow leaf
#

thunderclap replaces ww as thane

winter shoal
#

Only if you have literally nothing else to press

#

Which will happen maybe one time every 10 keys

#

But again that's only for thane

outer tartan
winter shoal
#

The last paragraph there is the important one

#

Yeah general priority as thane (once you have 4p) is TB > ramp > BT > RB > TC > exe > ww

#

and maintaining ww stacks through TC is also high priority, but will often happen naturally through your TB procs

#

Before you have 4pc you should probably play slayer though

outer tartan
#

Even in mythic?

winter shoal
#

Yes

latent steeple
#

even with 2pc, i should go slayer?

winter shoal
#

Probably

forest swallow
#

PSA, on loom do not charge @ the Infused Tangle add

#

unless you know how to not get hit by it, it pretty much always hits you

forest knot
#

love charging that boss and being out of melee

fading sky
#

Dno wtf is up with hitboxes this time round

#

Have no1 tested a melee

#

Non ret

echo rapids
fading sky
#

🤣, its the classic warrior deatg

#

My tac is, stay on boss

#

Let range do it

forest swallow
#

lmao

#

nooooo

#

you're not supposed to do that

fading sky
#

Yes

mossy pelican
#

Yea the thing has so little health in heroic*

echo rapids
#

And that was after I died on plexus because I charged in after first soak to help with second and all the ranges were lazy and missed it

mossy pelican
#

Listen man you gotta do dirty things done dirt cheap to parse

fading sky
#

Targrt switchin is loss ofndmg

#

If i could cleave in any way

#

Id do it

earnest canyon
#

There are people that wipe the raid if they are gonna parse bad....that sucks

echo rapids
#

Third boss felt pretty good as slayer with cleave talents

fading sky
#

Inefficient

#

Is a bad way of playin

#

If i notice we struggle on a pull id switch

#

But on hc its dead

mossy pelican
#

Wiping the raid because you’re just straight bad is worse imo

echo rapids
#

Just wait til it’s close enough to blade storm 😂

fading sky
#

U are gettin it

#

Or if i have bladesotm rdy i leap and spin on it

#

Charge back into boss when bl done

echo rapids
#

Meh I hate to use leap for that on a fight with lots of puddles and shit

fading sky
#

Tbh though frenzy should be kept up with target switcg

#

Its just bad design

echo rapids
#

Even if they should be controlled enough

fair star
fair star
#

0/10 ragebait

dusky moon
#

Well I helped you by giving you 1 dev lol

undone flower
undone flower
#

It was an S2 tierlist for context

fair star
#

first of all its nnot a reskinned whirlwind

#

its a better reskinned tclap

#

thunder clap and whirlwind are not the same

undone flower
#

Tclap on fury is reskinned whirlwind

#

They are the same button

covert abyss
#

are we using ST builds for Soulbinder?

sullen dove
supple moon
#

What other resources like Raidbots are available? Where else can I check what other people are using the most?

olive wraith
olive wraith
#

Or just straight up logs

#

Ya

undone flower
#

Yes logs if you really want to see the most precise tool, archon/murlok for aggregated data

fierce tapir
#

How is fury feeling this season?

supple moon
#

Is Murlok PVP?

undone flower
#

It has a m+ tab

eternal sundial
lean heart
compact apex
#

Is it me or is the Loomithar hella bugged?

#

when i charge it doesn't put me in melee range

#

and somethings leap just doesn't work

#

sometimes*

fickle cedar
#

i feel like wow got memory leak or smthing when i relaunch the game after some hours i gain like 20-30 fps

wild bone
#

hey, in single target raid - do you let enrage drop off, or maintain it consistantly? i have let it drop off and then refresh on drop. completely new to fury

lean heart
covert abyss
olive wraith
dire vigil
#

11 Arakara, We. Are. BACK!! frost dk and ele both outgeared me too

#

and i got a sacbrood, w

plush zephyr
#

All this fdk hype and every time I see a screenshot or I do a dungeon with them, they're at the bottom

oblique thistle
#

FOTM rerollers

plush zephyr
#

I guess

chrome wraith
#

....damn fury nerfs just dropped

fierce tapir
dire vigil
#

MT

loud locust
#

off topic question but i just did and timed a 10 taza streets and didnt get the achievment nor the portal

#

any reason why?

dire vigil
#

it could be because u havent also timed gambit or because its just bugged this week

oblique thistle
#

You have to time 10 gambit too

#

There's a hot fix coming on reset I think that fixes it

undone flower
modest condor
#

maybe if the bleed buff was in any way relevant

#

for us it's just a press button do damage

#

which is boring

undone flower
#

Yes I try to remove the current tuning bias for the tierlist

modest condor
#

but this isnt a current tuning bias

#

the ability is as exciting as slam

undone flower
#

So at the end it is a B for me, because it is a launch a forget spell

#

And I was cool in S1

#

But it is launch and forget

#

If it had a lil bump on enemies (even a fake one) it can become a cool looking spell too

covert void
#

unyielding netherprism isnt all that for us is it?

#

i.e. someone wants to buy my hero track one lmao

#

a dk

young swan
#

sell it

covert void
#

275k dude offering

brittle crow
#

bruh

bronze badge
#

When playing thane in m plus - when u get buffed BT does it take prio over raging blow in ST

brittle crow
#

id sell bis for 275k

#

fuck it

covert void
#

both dks wanted it

#

guess its good for them?

lapis shadow
#

My guild just doesnt wanna give me a set piece

covert void
#

didnt even sim high for me lmao

brittle crow
brittle crow
#

rb is filler for thane

young swan
oblique thistle
bronze badge
brittle crow
#

yes

young swan
brittle crow
#

resets are huge

bronze badge
#

Thanks

young swan
#

375k is like a singular heroic sale

latent steeple
#

are you proud of me now chat

brittle crow
#

catch me getting that bag

young swan
#

but its pretty good for a trinket that we dont care about

oblique thistle
lapis shadow
#

Not bottom dps, therefore good chatting

fleet pulsar
#

Do you tried tazavesh HM ?

proper swallow
#

Tazavesh HM dies before last boos

#

boss

#

gg life

fleet pulsar
#

Is that mm+12 equivalent no ?

olive wraith
#

Hm is equal to a 10

#

Bosses have extra mechanics apparently

unreal crane
#

What belt power you guys are running with usualy..i see on raider IO most are running the lightning rod one.

chilly fractal
#

Critical Chain

#

wouldn't be surprised if spark burst has gained some ground but I haven't simmed it in a while

olive wraith
#

Belt is also getting replaced week 2/3

chilly fractal
#

sims still say critical chain

chilly fractal
undone flower
dense sedge
#

Finding sometimes when pop cds and charging I'm not having enough for a Ramp

#

Is it because im popping it to early on the pull before charging?

undone flower
#

If it’s 79 rage, it’s because you are out of combat

#

If you have less, it’s another issue

chilly fractal
dense sedge
#

So is it at one sec we'd pop it?

#

Also its on a boss pull so not sure how i could be in combat?

undone flower
chilly fractal
#

I use my Gilded Crests where they benefit the most

undone flower
#

Getting 2 myth tracks is better than 1

#
  • there is a gap now in myth tracks lvl, I don’t remember which one give 4 ilvl
chilly fractal
#

There’s a 3 ilvl difference between crafting and myth

peak lagoon
#

710->714

undone flower
chilly fractal
#

No shit

#

It all depends on a bunch of different factors but a 723 belt even is hardly an upgrade

#

It’s like a 10k dps gain

undone flower
#

Yes, this tier is weird with so many slots locked

#

I really wonder what I will do as second craft

chilly fractal
#

You aren’t doing Weapon then Bracers?

undone flower
#

In no world I spend 60 gilded in bracers unless I have no other slot available

warm crag
#

use the hc crest dummy

chilly fractal
#

Then Gilded much later

undone flower
#

For bracers

#

The effect don’t scale with ilvl

lime egret
#

I don’t think you think of it as “wasting crests on bracers”, you think of it as not locking off other slots to much bigger upgrades from raid

undone flower
#

(Yes at the end I will have crafted bracers)

lime egret
#

So you just use free crest

#

Uses sparks ye but saves the crests

bitter palm
#

with ur 2nd spark ye

chilly fractal
#

3rd

bitter palm
#

ye 3rd

#

2h is 2 sparks

#

i forgot

lime egret
#

Ye

bitter palm
#

i mean not much else to craft

proper swallow
#

we craft that good boi 2hander

chilly fractal
#

684 Bracers to 720 bracers > 701 delve belt to 723 Myth belt most likely btw

undone flower
#

I will craft whatever sim good / compare with raid loot available and slap writhing on it and play with 704 bracers

chilly fractal
#

You can sim yourself but belt upgrades will be so minor

#

Even 704 bracers should out perform

undone flower
#

Yes, it will be either : bracers, off piece or belt, now that I think about it, there is not a lot of slot left

#

S2 I did boots as second

winter shoal
dense sedge
#

Sorry i'm getting to 79 rage when i charge in so is the best thoing to charge and heroic throw?

winter shoal
dense sedge
#

Okay thankyou

#

Is it a bug?

#

or is itmy timing

winter shoal
#

No, you're just momentarily out of combat

#

So you degen rage

dense sedge
#

I see

winter shoal
#

If you wait until you're in combat you'll be at 80

#

heroic throw just guarantees it

bold bear
#

11 flood on slayer

dense sedge
#

lmao

winter shoal
#

Sin rogue doing 6m in floodgate HUH

#

what is bro doing

bold bear
#

he was hella undergeared

chilly fractal
#

Not a very good rogue huh

#

Oh lol

vagrant tendon
#

@bold bearwhat ilevel u are

whole remnant
#

@bold bear hi

vagrant tendon
#

okay question

#

about stats

#

do you soft capp the haste

#

or u just go more ?

bold bear
#

the answer to stat questions is usually just sim it

eager thorn
#

is it still worth sending 5 rb after bs with 4pc?

bold bear
#

I rb until I run out of charges or drop enrage after bs

edgy widget
#

^

heavy dock
#

yo guys is fury more fun this season than before? i saw 4 set looks really nice but knowing the usual 'trying to pug keys as a fury' i was thinking if i should just go prot this season

bitter palm
#

w gear

#

w mog

bold bear
#

pugging is still rough though

bold bear
heavy dock
#

i mean i was thinking about thane 4set cuz slayer aint really my fav

whole remnant
bold bear
#

I don't like how inconsistent it can feel though

uneven path
latent steeple
#

+10 dawnbreaker. that 6% 🥲

#

im definitely doing something wrong

heavy dock
#

and it was quite fun

#

i made a 2nd char tho for the crafts

woven valley
woven valley
#

as slayer

latent steeple
#

i got an inkling that my executes are off

#

sending before 2 stacks

woven valley
#

you may be sending it too often without it being an sd proc or having stacks

#

i mean sending is good most of the time

uneven path
#

That is some curesed dps

bold bear
#

are you using the sd condition weakaura?

woven valley
#

but in mplus theres a bit more nuance to what you need to do based on how many enemies are around you

latent steeple
#

i just mash buttons unga bunga style

red grail
bold bear
#

"Fury Slayer Sudden Death Conditions"

woven valley
red grail
#

Hi btw, just joined and got a similar problem as sneak

bold bear
#

but just sending execute too early with 2p shouldn't be that big of an impact on your damage

red grail
smoky vale
#

tb > bt > ramp

heavy dock
#

tb as slayer wild

smoky vale
#

oh

#

i just saw thane

vagrant tendon
#

is slayer any good on mythic now ?

latent steeple
#

even in game im premature 🥲

woven valley
heavy dock
red grail
latent steeple
#

wowanalyzer

bold bear
latent steeple
#

it's a site

heavy dock
#

does it exist for other specs too?

smoky vale
latent steeple
#

there you go...

smoky vale
#

like

#

if you are max rage with no ww stacks you ww to be able to cleave with rampage

#

or

latent steeple
#

at least i know what to look out for

smoky vale
#

can you link your log

peak lagoon
#

new 4 set is very interactive in keys okayge

latent steeple
#

is raidbots quick sim a good indicator of dps in m+

smoky vale
#

what kind of sim are you thinking of doing

latent steeple
latent steeple
olive wraith
#

I keep munching tb procs

#

Stupid zug brain

smoky vale
#

fury apl isnt optimized for dungeon slice

smoky vale
#

if you want to sim for m+

latent steeple
#

Raging Blow repeatedly after Bladestorm, to build up Slaughtering Strikes for a bigger Rampage

#

Was following this

smoky vale
#

sim 1t 5m 5-x t 40s

#

you see how it says after bladestorm

#

that only applies to the first rampage after

latent steeple
midnight temple
#

hi! sorry for the maybe bad question but how does fury warr feel rn? looking for an alt and i used to main fury (arms when it was better) back in sl, how does fury feel in terms of fluidness/rotation compared to before?

smoky vale
#

when is before?

covert abyss
#

why are we MT for M+, but Slayer for multitarget in raids?

cerulean badger
#

fury good

midnight temple
#

just came back since sl so i have no idea how classes feel to play and dont wanna spend time levelling classes i wont play

cerulean badger
#

fury fun

#

good m+ good rai

latent steeple
midnight temple
smoky vale
#

because in keys you dont just pull 5 targets

bold bear
#

and adds in raid die fast usually

latent steeple
midnight temple
# cerulean badger fury fun

so you say it feels good? dont really mind the dps tier lists that much as im already maining shammy so im fine with that just want something thats fun to play

#

and if the mains say it feels good then it feels good

#

enh shamans are crying for example

latent steeple
iron portal
#

Anybody encountered problem with hardmode not giving +10 contribution to great vault?

narrow onyx
#

It's big unga if that' your vibe

smoky vale
midnight temple
#

just wanted to make sure its not in some junky state

latent steeple
#

rampage > ww > BT > RB?

smoky vale
#

read the pin again

hardy vault
#

do u think astral antenna is good for mythic + ? I'm missing lot of buff because mooving. Maybe cursed idol is better ?

latent steeple
narrow onyx
#

The DPS tier lists are also gonna be a little bit weird for Fury anyways.

Since Blizzard's decided that we're just gonna be target capped for most of out stuff, Fury will preform better than its average in lower or more casual keys with more reasonable or relaxed pulls, than when the tanks are pulling boss to boss.

olive wraith
compact apex
#

I hate that 1 sec cast time on cursed idol

smoky vale
#

you ww every 5 globals

latent steeple
#

back to the target dummies

dense sedge
#

Woo got my 4p 🙂

frank dawn
#

Cast time trinkets can die in fire

dire vigil
narrow onyx
frank dawn
#

A choice I also often make

dire vigil
narrow onyx
#

How ironic that he's mad about warrior, but brings an absolutely bangin' buff for us

chilly fractal
#

he's going to zone out of the instance to buff himself in the future

narrow onyx
#

Like my dude you yourself can nerf Warrior by just fucking around with your buff

abstract karma
frank dawn
#

I mean you’ll never win the big pull, but you’ll likely crush on the very next pull cuz they all busted and you’re already up for round 2

digital mauve
#

what's the ilvl to get into a NM pug raid?

chilly fractal
#

depends on the group

narrow onyx
#

I get the idea that it's like "okay we want classes to have their own identities where they all have different things they excel at" and I don't disagree with that idea....

... But it only works in a vacuum

chilly fractal
#

should be fine at like 680 or even less but some people are ass hats

abstract karma
#

Feasting on those mid sized pulls

narrow onyx
#

it just means you pick the classes most closely matched to the best performing profile and roll with them.

frank dawn
#

Is havoc as giga blasting in m+ as archon suggests or is this some week 1 shenanigans

abstract karma
#

Havoc is blasting

fair star
#

whats so special about the new dungeon tthatt i have 120 sign ups

chilly fractal
#

trinket for int agi

#

and its easy

#

easiest dungeon

fair star
chilly fractal
#

a lot of people want that trinket

fair star
#

bro im not in a guild rn

#

so im trying prot

digital mauve
#

i'm 676

fair star
#

and so many sign ups

#

my fdk cant gettt a sign up for +2

chilly fractal
#

1.5 min mastery on use... if that trinket has Strength on it we'd prolly be farming it too

cobalt relic
#

so we go for 2h craft right fellas

wispy thistle
#

if its your embellishment and you dont get a myth weapon in vault

cobalt relic
#

even if I get a myth weapon

#

no?

cerulean badger
#

Is there a consensus on when to use antenna vs First Boss/ Last Boss Trinket?

covert abyss
#

thunderous roar is so low on our priority list as fury slayer ST, almost wonder if it's worth having a 1.5 min CD at that low of a priority

winter shoal
# smoky vale wowanaylzer freaks out in keys a lot

IIRC logs treat M+ as one really long encounter so it fucks with the downtime and cooldown efficiency calculations. Accounting for all of that would be orders of magnitude more work though so I just can't be bothered

smoky vale
#

yeah

#

just dont use it in m+

#

🙂

winter shoal
#

M+ logs are cooked anyways idk

#

Way too much going on, too many variables to account for

#

Just study vods imo

smoky vale
#

m+ logs are just seeing deaths damage on bosses kicks stuff like that

plush zephyr
#

Watch CritCake, guess their gcds, if you’re wrong, take a shot.

smoky vale
#

nah i watch xmd

smoky vale
#

bowwl

#

look at this log

#

how did i astro gap this mage

dreamy hemlock
#

Can I send OF with Titanic rage or should I be enraged first?

young swan
#

u can send

oblique trail
#

It enrages before damage

smoky vale
#

gm banezi xantage

young swan
#

rare banezi sighting

smoky vale
#

rare xan

#

have you been playing genshin

oblique trail
#

Greetings

young swan
dreamy hemlock
#

thanks guys ❤️

azure coyote
#

mthane 4set so spammy need a WA for those TB procs

warm crag
sullen dove
warm crag
# young swan rare banezi sighting

i watched senses dimensius vod today and saw you and learned how to not die on dimensius by astral projecting into your mind at that moment

sullen dove
#

get bennett skin

warm crag
#

you had a lot of sussy things in your mind at that moment but i wont tell

young swan
#

finishing sumeru

sullen dove
#

holy

young swan
#

then on to fontaine