fury

[hollow leaf]

yeah

[echo rapids]

Gotcha

[rotund ginkgo]

i mean

its not free

ur still using the crests

to make it

but yes iirc its 60 vs 75 no?

[undone flower]

60

[hollow leaf]

something like that

[echo rapids]

But to upgrade the hero weapon

[rotund ginkgo]

or 60 vs 60?

[undone flower]

90 is when turbo boost

[rotund ginkgo]

i meant to make ur wep max heroic

but ye we dont have the hero 8 tracks

its only 6

so y

[undone flower]

You only lost crests by crafting in S1

[rotund ginkgo]

you gained*

by crafting

[surreal token]

@edgy widget if thunderous roar has such poor prio in ST

[undone flower]

It was 90 crest for the same ilvl as today

[surreal token]

what keeps us form taking spear

[rotund ginkgo]

ill craft ur mom

[hollow leaf]

nothing, both talents suck

[edgy widget]

P much

Spear without Might is basically worthless, but to get Might you’d have to give up Cruel Strikes

[lean heart]

its bleak

[olive wraith]

Does spear tether those frontal mobs in floodgate? Under the dam

[hollow leaf]

yeah

[hard widget]

We so back boys

[hollow leaf]

[dense sedge]

Question with slayer say we are dpsing a target and a mob you aren’t currently targeting goes to 20% is it good practise to swap to that target in hope of getting more execute procs?

[flat river]

i swear, all the people who worked on dimensius are ranged dps players

[undone flower]

I only did it in normal, he seemed… normal

[flat river]

normal is normal

heroic though

[hollow leaf]

here's to praying screams and maw drop

and both go to me

[flat river]

[hollow leaf]

yeppers

[fickle cedar]

you can execute on mouseover, remember to try to keep up the frenzy buff if possible

[flat river]

i swear i hate frenzy

main reason why i don't interrupt in m+

i target 1 target

and if it casts

i interrupt

otherwise

gg

[fickle cedar]

i got interrupt on mouse over and I try to stick to the main beefy/important target in m+

but it is annoying to drop it true

[dense sedge]

So we would look to execute on something with 20% as we would get more execute procs meaning more 2p slayer strikes?

[hollow leaf]

focus interrupt

[fickle cedar]

i mean you wont get more sudden death procs just from executing, it has to be from a sudden death so hp% doesnt matter

[sterile stratus]

Is Slayer better in keys if you only have 2 set? seems like it may be

[flat river]

yes

and in lower keys in general

[dense sedge]

It’s more so the slayer marks for executes

Just looking at the prior on wowhead where if something is 20% and has a mark to execute

[fickle cedar]

the problem is sometimes low hp targets die fast so if you end up losing those marked for exec stacks its fked, if you keep switching targets you are also losing possible haste

[restive peak]

We execute so much now as slayer I wouldn't even bother

[dense sedge]

Ah okay thanks

Thanks for clarifying

[restive peak]

Feel like I'm at a fuckin casino the chaching of the WA goes off so much

xD

[dense sedge]

Yeah my partner fucking hates it haha

Kerching

[fickle cedar]

you blasting with speakers or what haha

[dense sedge]

Through a sub bro

So just to clarify it’s probs more than likely a dps loss to swap on that account for the marked for death executes

[slate sun]

Hmm, fury on loom? Might be a dumb question but do we have any execute value with new slayer 4p build? No VC talents?

[young swan]

nope

just do really high, static damage

take advantage of a prolonged, relatively low, damage amp

[undone flower]

Revvez stonked on loom

But yeah, we are not an execute profile spec

[fickle cedar]

can you get tier from the 0/5 timewalking quest ?

[olive wraith]

I don’t think so

[slate sun]

Yah i guess the 8% buff to arms wasnt enough to warrant it

[young swan]

thats not live until next week

[flat river]

GOT IT

AOTC

first week izi

[slate sun]

Oh fuck i thought it came with reset

[turbid bay]

is there any good way to sim the best stat on soleahs secret technique trinket? can't find any option to sim the individual stats

[young swan]

prob vers or haste

[hollow leaf]

it does, just not this one xd

[young swan]

pick 1, cant really go wrong

[turbid bay]

seems that way my weapon enchants especially are jumping between the 2 atm

[turbid bay]

makes the most sense

[languid marsh]

i know everyone says to sim only on 1 target patchwerk for m+/aoe but WHY

[young swan]

because most methods of simming for aoe are flawed/inaccurate in some form or fashion

5t/5m patchwerk favours trinkets that rely on 100% uptime, 5t/1.5m favours burst trinkets too heavily, dslice sims what it does accurately but doesnt necessarily accurately represent an actual key

[undone flower]

GG

[young swan]

its better to just sim for ST and figure out which trinkets you want by asking questions

same for talent builds

[languid marsh]

ok yeah that makes sense thank you

[hollow leaf]

Maw dropped

[rotund ginkgo]

full wipe on big pull on dawnbreaker 13

[unborn sparrow]

Have tier helm hero piece but nothing else. Do I wait til vault or turn gloves into tier to go for hard mode tazavesh?

[rotund ginkgo]

on pul end

STILL time

with 1min left on clock

timer is giga

[young swan]

wait

damage isnt gonna be a limiting factor for hardmode

[unborn sparrow]

I thought shield for music boss was rough and a damage check?

[rotund ginkgo]

hold cds for it?

[young swan]

i mean right now its just not doing literally anything

that entire dungeon is buggy as fuck

[placid adder]

did u winz?

[young swan]

gz btw

boss isnt easy for heroic

[unborn sparrow]

Has anyone done it without dying? Heard liquid went dark and didn’t stream

[hollow leaf]

I'm on main for this split so yes

[young swan]

yeah but theres also an exploit

they like

100% exploited

[unborn sparrow]

Saw that on Reddit about gambit bosses already being dead

[fleet wave]

So for M+ I've got my ara kara trinket to 6/6H, but sims are misleading for M+. Should my 2nd trinket be 671 seaforium, 684 reverb, or 694 ticking sack?

Not sure if strength over all for the ticking sack makes sense

[young swan]

uh

ticking sack is just pure ST damage

idk i would just use whatever and farm for idol or soleahs or some shit

[hollow leaf]

oh right forgot to switch to netherprism for nk

[unborn sparrow]

Should look at getting pacemaker or idol

[hollow leaf]

sadge missed a lotta damage

[unkempt grotto]

if multiple people are using Screams of a Forgotten Sky, do they buff eachothers meteors?

[young swan]

great question

no idea

wouldnt be the first time shit like that happened

[rotund ginkgo]

@fleet wave

:)

[dire vigil]

How do you guys set up your macro for the channel? Did you change the order?

[rotund ginkgo]

put it on charge

[dire vigil]

For Idol

[rotund ginkgo]

get used to it

[dire vigil]

Yooooo

[rotund ginkgo]

and prayge u dont forget

charge then idol

[dire vigil]

Well what about when you’re already in the pack

[rotund ginkgo]

it snaps to the mobs

[unborn sparrow]

[rotund ginkgo]

just put it on a separate

or before ava and spam i guess

teh button

[dire vigil]

Ok ok, good tech I like it

[rotund ginkgo]

cuz the channel makes u not use it

u can still click the charge button

its KIDNA wonky mid pack but i mean if u gotta u gotta

[worn rain]

Hey guys, is you can still reflect prison on Zo'Phex? I think you could in SL

[dire vigil]

Thanks!

[rotund ginkgo]

playing with it rn on stream

[flat river]

ty

[flat river]

yeah it's very movement intensive

first phase atleast

last phase is a dps check/race AND a mechanic check

[bold bear]

with 4p when you play slayer in keys do you still press bt when >6 targets?

[night cedar]

How u guys sim for aoe?

[flat river]

yes

[night cedar]

I wanna sim muy trinkets for m+

My

[flat river]

number 12

[young swan]

#fury message

[frosty scroll]

do we play spear in keys with thane 🤔

[young swan]

yeah

u can play roar if u really dont like spear

[marble pilot]

The trinket from Yogg is kinda trash right?

[frosty scroll]

spears fine, just feels ass when packs are moving and having to hold

[sullen tendon]

Did anything even change with spear this patch it feels like we’re only taking it over roar so we can do a little more crit damage with thunder blast

[young swan]

correct

[sullen tendon]

Boring

[unkempt grotto]

The efforts we go through for "a little more damage"

[hollow leaf]

yet we won't shut down #arms smdh

[young swan]

yeah cause we arent cringe little piss baby's

[hollow leaf]

in protest I will stop playing arms until it is better than fury

[olive wraith]

Is that the first streets boss?

[olive wraith]

Yes

Or you could just focus entirely on prio

And rb spam

And pray for reaps

[restive peak]

I'm RB spamming and focusing prio

[hollow leaf]

I'm RB spamming and focusing prio

[thorny jewel]

So, why do we continue to be target capped in AOE? From the current wowhead m+ tier list: "There are a couple of issues that Fury Warriors have. The largest issue is the target cap, which doesn't allow Fury to truly excel the way they otherwise could." This has been the case forever. Running keys with same geared DKs, Rets, Hunters, DH etc that are pulling 17 mil dps in big aoe pulls and if I am really pushing it with all buffs and lust, I get 8 millions. "warriors are fine blah blah". Sure, but it makes a big difference when you're trying to pug into keys as dps.

[devout totem]

my theory is that the 4 additional target in whirlwind was badly coded by a guy who left blizzard years ago and nobody at current blizzard wanna touch it

[young swan]

previously we had ways to get around the target cap via cooldowns (bladestorm, odyns fury, roar, spear, bonegrinder, etc) however, pretty much all of those tools have been removed because blizzard wasnt feeling up to the task of actually balancing our burst kit

OF soft capped to 5, same with spear and roar

i think BS is still 8 soft cap

[unkempt grotto]

because we're a 1.5minute class?

[young swan]

bonegrinder removed for us obviously

titans torment (as we know it) removed

and the things that made spear strong in SL also got nuked

[young swan]

dont think that has anything to do with it

[onyx linden]

dk kinda strong

[hollow leaf]

I made meme

[feral ivy]

I have s2 4 still and I have the WA we got for s2. When I spam RB the WA will not light us a much like s2 like even when the wa say 100% or more should I still press BT or actually wait

[olive wraith]

Yes continue to follow the s2 prio if you have s2 tier

[south kayak]

What's the best melee rn in M+

[vapid tiger]

DK

[south kayak]

Not rogue?

[vapid tiger]

something to judge by I guess

[south kayak]

I c

[hushed gust]

Somewhat innocuous question, do rogue poisons get affected by the rogue’s attack power?

[proven stream]

yes

[hushed gust]

Good to know. Settles the viability of phys comp a bit more that way.

[tender forge]

are we going to replace the DISC belt? ive had nothing but belts this week in drops 🙁

[echo rapids]

I think a full 6/6 myth track beats it

Ugh I know it’s smart at this point to wait for vault to spend my Cata charges but damn playing without season 3 set sucks

[narrow onyx]

Is there a point where the 1h weapons are so far above my 2h weapons, that running SMF is value?

I've have some BAD luck in ulduar this week lmao

[echo rapids]

Doing 10s with an assa rogue and frost dk got me down

[tender forge]

you not set loot spec to arms to avoid 1h drops?

[narrow onyx]

Prot to get a shield*

[echo rapids]

Arms loot spec removes one handlers

[tender forge]

ah fair man

[upbeat blade]

simply never loot 1 handers and you never have to ask that question

[narrow onyx]

God I wish that was me

[olive wraith]

Only if you have vastly higher ilvl 1h. Or if there are legendary/cantrip 1h

[hollow leaf]

yay

[modest condor]

grats

[hollow leaf]

sadge no screams dropped

least I got maw

[flat river]

got it first

[hollow leaf]

I blame the ret community

[flat river]

[crude ridge]

Grats. I really like this fight.

[hollow leaf]

king was better

this fight was kinda boring

[crude ridge]

Yeah I like king more

[narrow onyx]

yeah 3 out of 4 of the bosses that drop shields also drop 1handers.

I got 2 1-h weapons and 0 sheilds :/

[young swan]

p3 dimensius is cool

p1 and p2 suck

[hollow leaf]

real

[crude ridge]

P2 rips my frames

[young swan]

rips everyones

[hollow leaf]

did shit numbers but also no 4pc

wcyd

[young swan]

tell me about it

when we killed i was rank 2 of 2

(the other warrior in my guild could play the game on the platform)

[hollow leaf]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JTwy8Z3CRbLWHBfh?fight=17&type=damage-done&source=72 Idk maybe you know if I did wrong timers or something

kinda just sent on cd

[crude ridge]

Yeah I think I got rank 12 when we killed it but still a purple parse cause only like 100 kills

[young swan]

im pretty sure u just send on cd as much as possiblet

timers are really bad in p1

get bs up every time right before circles

[hollow leaf]

Yeah everything still lined up if I pressed on cd

only time I ever held anything was for add pad in p2

[crude ridge]

Doesn't help that his hitbox is trash so there's some downtime that happens

[hollow leaf]

real

[young swan]

yeah im not going to lie i really dont like that boss outside of p3 lmfao

saving grace

solid c-tier boss

[crude ridge]

The aesthetic is dope af

The fight is still coolish in my books

Hopefully it's much better in mythic

[young swan]

nexus king is already moving down quite a bit in my books

planet orbit mechanic is just gonna be weakaura/macro mechanic

anytime theres a macro its just dogshit

[crude ridge]

I hate WA/macro bosses no matter how dope the fight might be.

[graceful drift]

Heyho guys! Whats the name of the website again where you see when people use their cooldowns in a raidfight?

[young swan]

lorrgs

[brittle crow]

am i supposed to slightly delay cd for the web on loomithar to parse or be ethical and let ranged kill it

[graceful drift]

Thanks!

[young swan]

just send shit

[brittle crow]

surely u hold for a few seconds on fights like soulbinder tho

[young swan]

yeah

[brittle crow]

oh u meant just for loomithar

ok

[hollow leaf]

I have a hard time enjoying any boss fight with this input lag

[quiet breach]

do these circles do damage by themselves or only when the spikes come out of them?

[deep hare]

only when spike

[hollow leaf]

^

[chilly fractal]

finally done doing the bulk of M+ farming

[fading sky]

So many bad hitboxes this rsid

[young swan]

like 2

loomithar and dimensius

[hollow leaf]

genuinely no clue what to even pick, I can get 4pc right now with the chest + normal curio, or I can grab socket to put in belt when I replace it

[junior gale]

That 2 too many

[restive peak]

I mean you want tier bro

[junior gale]

4pc is clearly overated get the socket

[hollow leaf]

rl told me to use curio and catalyze a hero piece

[uneven plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[hollow leaf]

and grab socket

[limber oar]

rl is an idiot

[young swan]

feel like thats definitely a better choice over taking normal gear out of vault

[hollow leaf]

had to double check with him because we were told before to just catalyze myth pieces

[snow edge]

Saving catalyst charges for only mythic pieces is crazy; if you’re clearing mythic the first bosses drop a bunch of tier anyway

[woven valley]

Hero is good to cata

We will get more cata charges as season goes on, getting 4 piece heroic is big ups

[hollow leaf]

yay 4pc

[hollow leaf]

ye but since we're 7 day raiding and myth gear will come in pretty fast it's better to save generally

[woven valley]

i mean maybe. but getting more dps to kill said bosses is also important and hero gear can go to 710 which is good enough imo

but yeah do what you want

[hollow leaf]

ye

[woven valley]

cata to your hearts desires haha

[hollow leaf]

but ye like I said, we were told beforehand only to catalyze myth pieces

so had to double check

[woven valley]

AH gotcha

[hollow leaf]

ig since 4p is another like 20% was enough reason to go for it xd

[junior gale]

RL will finally let me craft 4pc tonight most likely

[old hedge]

how much is it inting to take reckless abandon instead of Anger management in Mythic plus?

[junior gale]

Sim it and find out

[sullen dove]

as slayer prolly a lot as thane maybe less of a big deal

am giving you more bs cdr like required as slayer for dmg

[lapis shadow]

2 set on AoE is actually so fun as slayer

[sullen dove]

but idk thane kinda who cares about your cds just thunder blast

[lapis shadow]

Waiting for that 4 so I can do Thaneee

Im boutta claaapppp

[hollow leaf]

ain't no way liquid got one antenna each wtf

[sullen dove]

Driney L

[lapis shadow]

Brazy

[sullen dove]

man spent like 6 hours in dim pugs and group I left to go to work for killed it the pull after I left holy cringe

[lapis shadow]

Liquid not having a fury warr dps

[sullen dove]

easy ass boss ppl just dying to stupid shit

[young swan]

76 normal splits 26 heroic splits

[lapis shadow]

How much gold is that

[young swan]

prob like 600m+

[lapis shadow]

jeez

[young swan]

pretty sure they've been spending 600m-1b gold per tier since nya

[hollow leaf]

which guild are you in xan

[earnest canyon]

They want to kill the boss

[young swan]

nurfed

[lapis shadow]

Heyyyy... watchu mean by that

[hollow leaf]

US?

[young swan]

ye

[hollow leaf]

dope

we're hoping for top 20 this tier

[earnest canyon]

Exactly what I said.

[young swan]

W

[hollow leaf]

we shall see

I feel like mechanically I'm playing at my best ever

[lapis shadow]

[young swan]

i feel like if i dont upgrade to a 7800x3d soon i will get lobbed LOL

[hollow leaf]

fucking same

my i3 and 980 are running on spite

[young swan]

just have like 2-3s delay on everything

its disgusting

[sullen dove]

What is bluds tag…

!kingpred

[earnest canyon]

lobbed? And what do you have now? Dont you mean 9800x3d?

[hollow leaf]

Idk I don't know if that's a hardware issue

[young swan]

5600x

[hollow leaf]

liquid people with insane computers complain about input lag

[earnest canyon]

oh

[glad hill]

For slayer aoe are we hitting whirlwind every 4th button to keep meat cleaver going?

[junior gale]

that is how you aoe as a fury warrior yeah

[winter shoal]

Every 5th button

ww > 1 > 2 > 3 > 4 > ww

[finite ravine]

How do I sim So'leah properly to check which of the different stats I benefit the most from?

[glad hill]

Thanks!

[uneven pilot]

I assure you we've been hard at work the last 2 weeks. Maybe your curseforge is out of whack.

[hollow leaf]

Advanced sim
Put in your simc string
Put this in the bottom

copy="crit"
shadowlands.soleahs_secret_technique_type=crit

copy="haste"
shadowlands.soleahs_secret_technique_type=haste

copy="mastery"
shadowlands.soleahs_secret_technique_type=mastery

copy="versatility"
shadowlands.soleahs_secret_technique_type=versatility

sim

@hard widget gl king hope you time 🫡

[coarse nest]

oh bro if my dumbass can do a 13 streets

he can def do a 13 gambit

[rotund ginkgo]

quickly guys

nerf pala

[coarse nest]

ret did 9m oa in a 12 halls i ran yesterday

[cerulean swift]

Are we still playing slayer with 2set or is Thane better?

[coarse nest]

wicked

[rotund ginkgo]

we play slayer with 2set

u only thane with 4p

and even then uc an slayer in some keys

depending on need

[cerulean swift]

Thank you 😄

[finite ravine]

ty ty ty ty <3 <3

[sullen tendon]

are there any guides that just explain whats different about bosses on heroic

I dont have time to listen to all these idiots replay the entire fight

[olive wraith]

Aren’t there like 3 min vids

[bitter palm]

30 man is evil

[hollow leaf]

https://www.mythictrap.com/

[sullen tendon]

yes but they replay the entire fight and explain every simple mechanics like "make sure to dodge the circle that kills you"

[earnest canyon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nyXnYf6o6E most of his are less than 2mins long, and he says "on heroic...." when there is a difference

[sullen tendon]

"On heroic its the exact same fight but X Y Z happens instead"

i dont eed a video with every other part

[hollow leaf]

mythic trap explains that

[sullen dove]

or just look at the dungeon journal and read the stuff with the heroic skull icon next to it

sum book reading shit

[earnest canyon]

I dont think he has time for that, he is busy

[sullen tendon]

this is cancer to look at

45 gifs all playing at the same time

[earnest canyon]

you sound like a bit of a whiner

[sullen dove]

U must be new here

Common occurrence

But idk 📖 pretty simple most of the time

[sullen tendon]

amazing

i dont eed the rest

[sullen dove]

Don’t think anything significantly changes other than forgeweaver being harder by a good bit

[sand hatch]

Fake warrior. He can read. Must be a ret spy from the discord.

[sullen dove]

and last 2 are eh

[slim coral]

you gotta rotate group soaks for azur on heroic

[hard widget]

Ofc we did bro

^^

[hollow leaf]

we didn't

we just soaked all as a whole raid xd

[slim coral]

and then also the pillars need to die before they get full energy

[sullen dove]

can’t kill all of em before that tanks drag adds to absorb energy of 2nd and 3rd ones

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-nose-poke-capy-coconut-gif-1974646734566907144

[olive wraith]

Mans comes to discord to bitch about not wanting to watch a 2 min video. Bitches more than 2 mins

[restive peak]

Logic bro

[hollow leaf]

no need to be mean

[olive wraith]

Did we decide if thane is good for forgeweaver

[hollow leaf]

I thought it was decent when I did my splits

depends how long the orbs live

[olive wraith]

Ads seem to be up a long time in this pug

[lean lava]

as a slayer 2p, is it worth to w8 till 3 mark of execution? or spam execute if available

[earnest canyon]

One day someone is gonna piss one of them off and it will go apeshit and rip someone's face off

[olive wraith]

Get the wa

[pliant fulcrum]

ahahaha

[olive wraith]

Super minor loss if you sd on proc though

[sullen dove]

Officially u hit it on 2 or a couple other conditions but sending on cd more than adequate

[restive peak]

Bro who rolls 2 100s on 1 boss wtf?!

[sullen dove]

when it’s a sudden death

[restive peak]

Gratz though

[sullen dove]

perish tier acquirer

[restive peak]

Hahaha

[lean lava]

thx

[undone flower]

i finally have tier

[hollow leaf]

pins

[undone flower]

JUICED UP GNOME

[golden yacht]

is soulbreaker's sigil simming with the vers proc in mind or nah?

[undone flower]

YAS mawr furry pics

i need 75 runed crests so next week and it's DONE

[rotund ginkgo]

chad

[rotund ginkgo]

BEGONE, 4PIECE HAVER

BEGONE

[frozen portal]

what is it i have to do for hero gear form delves? - 2 11's a week?

[rotund ginkgo]

7mil overall priory 11

[twin glacier]

„Wow“

[rotund ginkgo]

2piece gaming

[undone flower]

Hum 2p peon

[rotund ginkgo]

BEGONE, 4PIECE HAVER

[twin glacier]

Umad

[undone flower]

Im gonna blast some delves now with my tier

[cursive flower]

dumb question, single-minded fury talent (allows using 1h weapons) ever useful if i literally have no season 3 2handers because i play mostly protection, but i have to dps in raid?

[hollow leaf]

it's a good bit behind but if you don't have any 2 handers and you have 1 handers then wcyd 🤷‍♂️

[cursive flower]

yeah, it would be 2 691 1-handed vs... a 681 2h and a 671 2h. I assume it would be worse

but yeah... temporary until i get real weapons

[sullen dove]

just couple % atp not the biggest deal but ye

[hollow leaf]

could just sim it real quick

[worthy mountain]

🔥 🤩

[rotund ginkgo]

something tells me

u might still do more dam with the 2hs

+u can very easily acquire 691s

u can just buy two veteran track 2handers from the horrific visions

and max gear them

[stable heart]

Got a h track wep from a 10, should i use the 30 gilded on it to max it out to 710? I'm at 105 gilded total rn, i'll get another 90 next week bringing me to 195 total, realistically i'll only get a M track item from vault since im backup raider to my guild

[crude ridge]

I would

[neon ocean]

Do you want to pop Avatar on cd or hold it and just use it everytime recklesness is up?

[rotund ginkgo]

701 bracers are:
0.2% ST loss
0.5% loss in 10t 1min
1% gain in 10t 1min BL

chat do we use them?

[crude ridge]

It'll make upgrading the myth track weapon cheaper when you do finally get one.

[olive wraith]

Man I just can’t loot a wep

[warm crag]

don't upgrade it with gilded, you should probably be crafting a wep next week

[edgy widget]

TR dam looks low and no OF

Check the 2+2 build in #1273899855852339200

[rotund ginkgo]

im supposed to go OF?

hoooly

new cook?

[stable heart]

I'll have enough gilded for craft wep and full max upgrade vault item, i wont get any other M items since im not cool enough for main team raiding 😔

[rotund ginkgo]

noxiv sandbagging?

[warm crag]

ok but still dont upgrade the heroic weapon if you will craft a mythic weapon and get the hc upgrade for free

[edgy widget]

crafting a weapon will discount your other weapons upgrades

[stable heart]

if only you guys answered 30 seconds sooner

[warm crag]

ya idk stop giving shit advice

[edgy widget]

It’s been in the #dps-faq forever!

[rotund ginkgo]

yeah TR dam was low cuz i fucking hate it and i just pressed it sub optimally tbh

so, probs a conscious effort on my end

[edgy widget]

Oh well live and learn won’t matter in a week

[stable heart]

this is unreadable and doesnt tell me anywhere to go to learn my question, unless i wanna scrounge all resources for 30+ min

[edgy widget]

I’m guessing you’re running base TR, but I’d highly recommend taking the capstones too

Cruel strikes isnt that good, even with full 4p

[edgy widget]

I’m what world is that unreadable?

Like how much clearer could those sections be outlined?

[rotund ginkgo]

i ran sim on the 2p2p build

[edgy widget]

Sims aren’t setup for 2+2

[rotund ginkgo]

in a 10t 1min i gain 500k but i lose like 230k ST in a 5min 1t

[edgy widget]

since it’s about a week long concern for most people

[rotund ginkgo]

i mean yeah by weds ill be fine i assume

[edgy widget]

Just trust me on it

It blasts slays

[rotund ginkgo]

whats the priority on odyns?

like, timing etc?

on opener

yada yada

[tardy lark]

send it bro

[edgy widget]

Assuming >1 target, either throw it immediately on the pull (w/Titanic Rage) or just after bladestorm while enraged (no TR)

[rotund ginkgo]

ye might run a couple

i got nothing to gear from m+ anymore

[edgy widget]

1T it’s just a rando filler

[rotund ginkgo]

ait ait

ill just fuckin send it ig

dont think it rly matters

Before getting S3 4p, prioritize Execute with Sudden Death, Bloodthirst > 3 targets, and Raging Blow in that order.

wish someone told me

i learnt it after 2-3 keys

when i felt my damage didnt correspond to the growth of 2p

now im ass blasting

RAAAAAAAAAAAA

[tardy lark]

just dont play with hunters/warlocks/rogues/fdks

you wont feel like you are blasting then

[rotund ginkgo]

😢

[dense elbow]

Probably should avoid DHs, Paladins, Mages and Evokers - just to be safe

[tardy lark]

DHs are better fury warriors and evokers could go on the "dont play with if you want to feel blasty" list

but if you play with any of those specs and you feel like you blast, either the tank is pulling like a 🐱 or the dps players are wildly incompetent

[edgy widget]

Told ya

[rotund ginkgo]

told me what

i havent tried ur talent tree yet

goofy ahh

[dense elbow]

Here is the pro-tip tho:
Check s2 rio, only play with ppl with 2k rating.

Gigablaster.

[edgy widget]

To check the damn faq/pins!

[tardy lark]

i found a group where everyone was capped like me and i blasted

[edgy widget]

I’m not sure if FDK is too oppressive anymore, or if the ones I’ve played with happen to be mid

But yeah, slayer isn’t setting any records on overall dam, it just has real good bossing potential

[tardy lark]

FDK still does a gazillion dps on big pulls but gets bent by fury on bosses like most specs

queue your tank pulling 2 packs into big momma and your bossdam doing is moot

[dense elbow]

Ya ppl dont pull extras under bosses? Shame

[undone flower]

i always shit on everyone on big momma even if packs are pulled

[olive wraith]

Thane feels pretty good on forge

[undone flower]

when i had 2p

[olive wraith]

Big momma is best boss this season

[young swan]

then just ask the questions if you feel like they're too specific lmfao unsure how that makes the FAQ unreadable, most questions get answered if u just navigate to the relevant link

[undone flower]

after the 4 extra shitters are dead, it turns into 5 target fight, you just demolish it even as slayer

[chilly fractal]

Instructions unclear Demolish used as Colossus

/s

[undone flower]

Wait Midnight

[chilly fractal]

Eastern time?

[undone flower]

oribos time

big momma / slayer 2p

he took 4 dudes with the boss

[hard widget]

Oppa

Happy topping the meters

[hidden stirrup]

Warriors malding? I'd need to have hair first

[cursive flower]

i mean, i cant blame him, complaining actually worked

so, when we close the arms channel?

[hidden stirrup]

When the coffin memes end

[flat river]

no malding in warrior discord

[young swan]

no it didnt

[flat river]

it's a closed circuit

[undone flower]

always has been

[flat river]

doom, cope, acceptance

in that order

[hidden stirrup]

Just remember, we scale with more secondary stats

[flat river]

[storm birch]

My FOMO is setting in

I need to GRIND!!!

[crude ridge]

Fair enough I forget that crafted does that. No need to be a dick about it.

[coarse nest]

fury owns

[storm birch]

That’s how I used to be man . Geared to the teeth off m+ spam week one. But fiance baby and work gonna kill me if I go degen

So I’m on my slow roll

[coarse nest]

dont worry i only get to degen first 2 weeks of season

then its back to adult mode

[warm crag]

i will be a dick if advice given is actively harmful to ppl lmao

[storm birch]

I want my 2 weeks no adult mode

[coarse nest]

real

[storm birch]

Anyone do hard mode taz deathless yet?

I haven’t kept up

[coarse nest]

liquid yeah ofc

they got like 9 weapons roughly

[crude ridge]

Well jeez I guess people can't make mistakes around you ever then oops.

My bee

[sullen dove]

huh

[undone flower]

Nice, you can be alone on 3 rolls, isn’t it fantastic ?

[crude ridge]

Those normal or heroic cause hot damn.

[sterile hill]

betrayed the warrior with evoker 😭

[undone flower]

They scale

[restive peak]

Bro tell me it's your split

I got heroic and can confirm it fucks

[sullen dove]

haha yea

split

boost on my dragon

[restive peak]

Ew bruh

You're better than that

[sullen dove]

boutta see 17 zenith drops

gonna be so huge

[brittle crow]

what do i change for this to be s2 single target raid talents

take away whirlwinds for 1 extra point in deft experience

[sullen dove]

depths of insanity prolly

[brittle crow]

and depths of insanity or unbridled?

[sullen dove]

maybe uf atp

[restive peak]

DOI for sure

UF is very mid, its thrown on for pure ST cuz it's not 0 but it's not great

[undone flower]

S2 ST was depths of insanity and second deft point

S2 AoE was no deft point and depths of insanity

[rotund ginkgo]

I got a champ and can confirm it fucks

Man I sim like 4.2 st and I don't even have 4p

[chilly fractal]

do you have 2p?

[rotund ginkgo]

Ye

[chilly fractal]

ok

was wondering WTF

I'm at 4 mil st and have 0p

[rotund ginkgo]

I probs sim slightly higher than 4.2

I sim like 4.16 with cleave talents

And I'm using vers wep buff which is like 10k less

[chilly fractal]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fxFE2jRSnW8bYKtKNDyKn3

tier for sure next week

[rotund ginkgo]

Bro got sabatons

[chilly fractal]

55 m plus runs this week... zzz

[rotund ginkgo]

Envy

[chilly fractal]

got my 90 runed crests planned for next week... 15 for neck, 15 for shoulders, 30 for gloves and 30 for pants

cbf to farm 701 pants and gloves

got 697 which I'll live with

[undone flower]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9v3UxtmPcrXobo5cvecLzA

[chilly fractal]

you take your 4p and git /cry

[restive peak]

I'm at 4.6 too

Feelsgoodman

[chilly fractal]

looks like you need to farm some Arakara

4 pieces on the loot table... shoulders and gloves are 2 of them

[undone flower]

before getting 4p / helmet and legs lower ilvl
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7h5MKQcp7u6vABUwLJD3nP

if you wanted a comparison

ofc my talents change, i used S2 ST talents for 2p gaming

[restive peak]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qgz7mR9CdCvD8AXgYaPhS2

[chilly fractal]

If I had 4p

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/q53WX95PawYYTZBm98N9EF

[restive peak]

The only diff for us really is boots vs ring, are the boots really that weak? damn

[sudden tusk]

S2 4p is so bad im wearing 2 prim stat pieces over it lmao

+30k to remove 4p epic

[earnest canyon]

Jfc limit are still on 4th boss even after nerf. Wall like stix I guess

[undone flower]

it is weird indeed, i have it in heroic x)

[restive peak]

Ye, so odd

[undone flower]

i forgot to sim wep enchant i'm still rolling with depths, i never changed it since S1

[sudden tusk]

they probably havent send crests yet

if i had to guess

[restive peak]

Ooo thatll add some

[chilly fractal]

I'm still depths I assume it'll change with just a little more gear or when I get tier

[earnest canyon]

That makes sense tbh, but it seems mechanics is killing them, not lack of dps

[chilly fractal]

we should be getting close to 5mil sim dps next week... or more with relative ease... 720 Weapon in main hand should be well over 100k gain on its own

[restive peak]

212k, simmed it today

w ascend + writhing 681 bracers

[dense elbow]

You better not lie, I need a big upgrade from my S2 weaps to turn things around

[undone flower]

i will sim 1 myth wep + crafted, because i will 100% loot a 2 hander in my first myth vault

[pine badge]

whats the prio craft with spark? weapon first?

[chilly fractal]

100%

[olive wraith]

Most likely

[chilly fractal]

some would say its guaranteed

have you done HM Taz yet?

Chance at that

[restive peak]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mGiBsHjiYiEGmrCqMnYZPw

[undone flower]

i will try the deahtless tazavesh tuesday

[dense elbow]

On da phone, I will just take your word on it

I will do at least 6.2m DPS next week on avg overall in lincc I trust

[restive peak]

That means the world to me, you should go look at my talents

[olive wraith]

Pls I need wep

Someone give me luck

[restive peak]

You'll be very excited for the cook I've done my 13s with

[undone flower]

yep oathsworn is the way for me

[dense elbow]

Remind me later. I am already kinda happy with my build

[restive peak]

So boots are still minor but not nothing

[cerulean badger]

Can you lincc the Talents pls

[restive peak]

CgEArbixk/ZKwTdpZGVHeylmLAAAAAAAAAQjhhNzMMjxMzswMzMzMYYmttZGzMzCMMzMmZsMbDmZmBAAAxMbbjNWssYmGzMDTmFmhNA

[chilly fractal]

I see what you did there

[cerulean badger]

Ty

[undone flower]

the cloak proc is 4% of my dps on the detailed report

so yeah, it is minor

[restive peak]

I thought it was gonna matter more for some reason lol

Couldve done the math but dumb

[dense elbow]

30% on 4% is more than 0%, quick math

[undone flower]

it is 4% AFTER 40% from my boots

[chilly fractal]

this is the easily obtainable goal for next week... just need tier

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hQPvR71tgpbEnqbrQxUG5w

[restive peak]

Ye most of us will get there by mid next week

[undone flower]

i think 100% of my guild will get 4p tier next week

[chilly fractal]

if I don't see Zenith drop next week I'm just going to cry

or beg for curios

we are trying Dimensius Heroic on Monday night so there is hope for this week to maybe get 1 or 2

[dense elbow]

u made my day quite a bit better today, happy day

[undone flower]

but....

this log is before me getting my boots

something is sus

after getting boots

[dense elbow]

Does it swing a lot. Dung mob density diff. Tank diff?

[undone flower]

i don't pay a lot attention of random shitter procs, i will pay more attention next time i raid

[dense elbow]

Also, why bt so high, but no Reap? I am confused

[undone flower]

it is fractilus

normal / before me getting boots
heroic / i had the boots

[dense elbow]

Check if ppm increased or nah

[unique wyvern]

guys, slayer without any set piece, after bladestom we want to spam 3 raging blows even if we rage cap?

[undone flower]

normal : 12 hits for 2 min 55
heroic : 27 hits for 5 min

[hardy vault]

do u think astral antenna is good for mythic + ? I'm missing lot of buff because mooving. Maybe cursed idol is better ?

[chilly fractal]

They need to nerf the count for Halls or buff that timer

Feels like shit right now running that dungeon

[undone flower]

it is the key i like the least for now

[dense elbow]

The amount of medium-large pulls in HoA I kinda enjoy myself

Makes the courtyard more enjoyable

[undone flower]

yeah but you have priory and flood

[dense elbow]

I dont wanna go there anymore

I am so done with those

[undone flower]

i don't like priory too lel

flood is my favorite dungeon so far

[restive peak]

I like the new 1 alot

If they went that direction more often I'd be happy

[undone flower]

i didn't do it a lot

[dense elbow]

I keep getting bomb into targeted, and it tilt me. FG is bad

[finite sundial]

are yall 4set to 4set jumping?

[dense elbow]

I just wanna do boss dam and feel good. After being trash for 5min

[undone flower]

for now, in my opinion, the worst dungeon of TWW is rookery

yes rookery under stonevault

[dense elbow]

I am new 2set and two 694 pieces. Simd better

[dense elbow]

Nah, mist or grim. Both were worse than rookery.

Mist always been a drag, linear, random elements and the annoying RP voice

"TiiiHiiiHiiii"

[slim coral]

it's that easy boys

[restive peak]

Bro gratz, poptart must be stoked

[dense elbow]

Big Gz, now stop being bottom DPS

[slim coral]

[restive peak]

Fr though, was it giga easy and took your time?

Or giga easy without taking your time lol

[slim coral]

just wait for lust every boss

and it's pretty free

[restive peak]

Ye that's what I figured

[slim coral]

Idk if I should upgrade tho

cause I'm crafting tuesday anyways

[restive peak]

No

[slim coral]

I woudl be wasting like 90 crest

[restive peak]

Don't lol

[chilly fractal]

yea big time save for sure

[daring juniper]

howdy got a question isnt hack and slash and slaughtering strikes completely useless for m+?

[lavish sierra]

so how does 4 piece change

like M+ thane spec

[olive wraith]

Yes

[daring juniper]

@lavish sierra spammin thunder blast

[olive wraith]

Nah you just spam bt

And tb

Pretty much

[lavish sierra]

love it

[dense elbow]

Nop, pretty good to just use em RBs, most pulls aren't always so big you dont RB

RB does so much dam and SS is iceing on the cake 🎂

[undone flower]

mist is a mid dungeon, and grim has more value as a dungeon than rookery

[dense elbow]

Mist isn't mid

Mist is toxic rotten waffle tier

[zinc python]

should we bother simming dungeon slice?

[sullen dove]

how was sozami

i think hardest one

3 kicks in 10s right

just gigabrain

[slim coral]

it was fine the kick timer is actaully slow asf

you just have everyone stand in a quandrant

hardest boss is the pirate dragon

esp if your group doesnt have the cc for it

[untold quest]

why is execute the lowest priority spell for mountain thane? even lower than raging blow and bloodthirst

[chilly fractal]

because it's shit and gets no benefits like as Slayer

can't proc TBs pressing execute

[slim coral]

Because there’s no interactions for execute

Also execute itself for fury is a meme

[slim coral]

Nah

[severe pewter]

Do i need to change talents for 2p 2p for st? having trouble finding the right info

[chilly fractal]

check the pins

[hoary vortex]

Spear or Roar in M+?

[slim coral]

Whichever you want

Honestly doesn’t really matter

[hoary vortex]

word thanks!

[untold quest]

for thane warrior, do you keep the meat cleaver buff up for 2+ targets?

[slim coral]

you should that way you can hit both targets

[hushed gust]

if you're doing multitarget at all, you're taking both talents

[untold quest]

im just checking to make sure that its still most dps even at 2 targets

[lavish sierra]

oh my god 4 piece feels so god damn good

[olive wraith]

Do 100% damage to one target. Or do that AND 65% damage to second target

[jaunty ridge]

Fury owns.

[modest condor]

:deswindstream:

[junior gale]

holy Deswind fury post

wtf is this timeline

[jaunty ridge]

[cunning igloo]

got 7 mil overall helping some friends with their weekly 10 floodgate, felt good to finally get over that mark

[brittle crow]

is araz just a big fat dps check or what

i think my group just doesnt meet the dps check

[torpid dragon]

what do i craft? mythic bracers?

[unique thistle]

Fury is actually fun for the first time all xpac and it makes me worried we are gonna get nerfed. Feels like an abusive relationship with blizz.

[echo rapids]

It feels a bit like one, second phase is a joke if your dps is high

If you go in with like 35-40% you are cooked

[brittle crow]

we have 12% left when we wipe 😔

[jolly kindle]

what are the parameters for a proper AOE sim?

[echo rapids]

What percent are going into the suck phase?

[brittle crow]

i wanna say like 32-35

cooked

[echo rapids]

Lust on the second intermission might be the plan?

[brittle crow]

why 2nd?

for 2nd pots?

seems smart

ill relay

[echo rapids]

I think your dps just tanks in that second phase/psuedo enrage

Casters will struggle with the constant pull

He takes extra damage during the intermission

[brittle crow]

well we havent been lusting that phase

we've been lusting 1st intermission

2nd is still smarter tho

[smoky vale]

wrong arms owns

[echo rapids]

Yeah should line up with second pot

[bold bear]

10 flood on slayer

[echo rapids]

4 piece?

[bold bear]

yeah

[echo rapids]

I can’t wait

Was surprised how big a bump 2 piece slayer was, god season 2 set bonus sucked

[bold bear]

OF gave me a huge 3.9% damage across the run

[sour frigate]

Its there for enrage

https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620

[edgy widget]

pumpage

[edgy widget]

to be fair, you do need to factor the opportunity cost of pressing WW (a much weaker GCD) vs an extra RB cast every 5th GCD, so the question isn't as crazy as it sounds

[edgy widget]

but yes, as Kal indicated, it is generally better to keep the buff up, just by a much smaller margin v2tar vs 4 or 5

[gilded pawn]

imagine if it was only optimal at say 3t

that would be a nightmare

[pure echo]

anyone remember or know if ticking sack got changes since SL?

trying to remember if the stacks build up quickly and if they AOE, or just single target

[quiet breach]

do u guys think switching from 200 to 400 spell queue window will help with reacting to blast procs

with 4 pc thane

[modest condor]

no

[olive wraith]

It’s weird that it waits like half a gcd or something

[modest condor]

it procs off of ionizing strikes and those arent instant

[stoic star]

I just realized ive been using the Crit Gem in my Cloak but got 2x 99 parses. Do i just leave it lmao. guess ill sim it all tomorrow when i got time

[brittle crow]

bros worried about like 200 crit when our stats are up to like 30k

oh cloak lol

still

crit is a good stat

[quiet breach]

would it help me redirect a button press if im spamming rampage fast af after i press blast and a rampage sends before i can react to the blast proc?

idk how spell queue works exactly

[modest condor]

sqw just means how long before the gcd is over you can press the next ability

has nothing to do with reacting to procs

[quiet breach]

so to play well with the new thane set, you think you just have to not be spammy and wait after u press blast

to see if u get ionizing

[brittle crow]

u should be doing that anyway

but yes

[stoic star]

Idk I just slammed that shit on every proc and did really well

but the rng crazy

i had a warrior with me on soul hunters that did insane 1st pull while I did worse, the 2nd pull i got the rank 19 parse and he did poorly. thane just seems strange to me.

[hushed gust]

i only have 2-piece, but i'm not feeling a reason to swap to mountain thane in dungeons. i really like slayer's bursty playstyle and if it's viable in like a 15 later-on, who says i can't just be the prio guy?

[compact apex]

what setting is everyone using on the disc belt for raid?

[chrome plover]

the one that sims the best

[woven valley]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-gambling-gif-3937562841362806777

[woven valley]

Thane gets hella power out of 4 set while slayer gets a lot of out 2 piece

so youre probably feeling that way because thane feels bad atm

[pure echo]

is unbridled ferocity's chance to proc on hit of rampage or per cast?

bc im starting to think putting an extra point into critical thinking is better than UF

[brittle crow]

do u already have a point in depths of insanity

[pure echo]

yup

[brittle crow]

u can always sim it

im p sure that UF is just better tho

[pure echo]

they're about 2k between one another

[brittle crow]

feels better too

occasional bonus reck is never bad

[pure echo]

6% could never happen in a fight

esp if its per cast, if its per hit maybe its better

[brittle crow]

per hit would be like a 20% chance per ramp to get reck lmao

its def not

[quiet breach]

critical chain probably

[zinc python]

is there ever a situation where vers goes over mastery? i feel like they both do the same thing but you get more dam increase per point of master

[worn rain]

diminishing return for stats causing that

[trail tendon]

with 2 pc tier, should i still run slayer or do i swap to thane?

i know thane is better on 4pc

[cunning igloo]

many PIs were received

10 floodgate thane key

[trail tendon]

O.o

[woven valley]

Stay slayer, thane 2 piece is not great

Thanes tier power is all in the full set

[olive wraith]

Damn my sims are stacking haste stil

Kinda wild

[chilly fractal]

My sims be loving haste vers

[sullen dove]

wild key

[upper trellis]

👀

[trail tendon]

ahh okay thank you

[brittle crow]

why does this sound so familiar

i feel like i know a gromnak

[eternal sundial]

if you dont know gromnak

you are weird

https://tenor.com/view/gromnak-gunnars-mask-off-rage-world-of-warcraft-gif-22178131

[slim coral]

From elusive ye

[sullen dove]

common gromnak w

[ornate gust]

Who is Gromnak?

[blazing orbit]

Is there even a visual of an opportunity of playing slayer in m+?

[covert coyote]

I see it everytime the thane tier doesn't proc until there's only 3 mobs left on a lust pull

[olive wraith]

Like vids of people playing it?

[blazing orbit]

I meant like a window of opportunity, fuck me im tired af

[olive wraith]

Not sure what you mean by window of opportunity. But slayer 2p does pretty good stuff

[slim coral]

You can play slayer in all content yes

[blazing orbit]

Holy shit,is it viable like the beginning of s1?

Or is thane overshadowing him again

[olive wraith]

They’re both usable for keys

Slayer offers more st/prio

Thane has better aoe/overall damage

[edgy widget]

Slayer is doing quite well in keys
4p Thane will be a little stronger overall, but Slayer has much better boss damage and still brings very respectable AoE; this Season is easily the most balanced the two have ever been in keys

[olive wraith]

For raid it’s still mostly slayer. With a few bosses being potential thane ones

[edgy widget]

Raid will def be Slayer primarily; only potential place for Thane is Soul Hunters and maybe Forgeweaver

[blazing orbit]

Is slayer with bladestorm?

[olive wraith]

Yea

[blazing orbit]

How so?ain't a bladestorm gonna do enough?

[olive wraith]

I mean that’s slayers main aoe cd

[blazing orbit]

I'm this close to reverting back to fury mate.

[olive wraith]

Then do it?

[edgy widget]

yeah I'd say Bladestorm does enough

[blazing orbit]

I meant on the soulhunters

But dude this looks crazy

[olive wraith]

Oh. Thane just has better consistent aoe

I’m sure you’d do fine as slayer on Dh boss

[blazing orbit]

Holy crap...

[hard widget]

Slayer is also a good choice for higher on demand dmg output usually or is that from the past nowadays

Lower keys usually favor slayer because of that

[edgy widget]

Soul Hunters, if tanked correctly, should be 3 target more often than not, which plays perfectly into Thane (Thunder Clap/Blast is much better than WW)

[quiet breach]

not to mention how often they are spread far af apart which gives crackling thunder huge value

should we just use the thane mythic+ page for soul hunters?

[brittle fulcrum]

is this trinket bait for fury? it sims well but sounds terible

[rich zinc]

Honestly all those st damage trinkets are like sim bait

[edgy widget]

very slightly different - take Rally instead of Rumbling, Intervene instead of Storm Bolt, and you may decide you want Roar over Spear if the enemies are hopping around too much

but otherwise yeah, it's basically the same build

[slim coral]

I’ve found rumbling to be more useful ngl

[edgy widget]

not for Soul Hunters, there's nothing to stun

[slim coral]

Rally is so bad

Oh my fault soul hunters

I saw the m+ message

My fault!

Should of kept reading after m+

[edgy widget]

but yeah, I don't bother with Rally in M+ anymore; maybe if you push really high keys and decide you need it to live something specific, but that's not a concern for the vast majority of players

[slim coral]

Yeah wish it was buffed to like 25 percent in m+

[edgy widget]

still wouldn't take it

double it, then it'd feel worth

[zinc python]

Has anyone else noticed input lag since the release of manaforge omega?

Everything doesn't feel very snappy these past few days

[earnest turtle]

Opening the TW box and getting the Saladbar mace hurts

[quiet breach]

ty

[latent matrix]

What talents should we run with 2p slayer in m+ ? I saw the Archi pin but i can't find or remember what the S2 slayer build looked like

[clever belfry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1406564095775473714/schmidirot.gif?ex=68a2ec65&is=68a19ae5&hm=96fa427196ab42bee462bbaaff2eb5d06833c3765739c315696c6a1692946c53&

[near pasture]

quick question is it rampage>RB>BT?

and only BT when RB is on cd?

[obtuse karma]

Guys do i still need to charge up cursed stone idol or do i just whiff it and go about my business? The whole charging it up thing fucks with my momentum

[pulsar prawn]

timewalk raid quest: cloak
timewalk 5x quest: belt
tierset: 0x

[gleaming siren]

Horizotnally

[rotund ginkgo]

Pretty sure u can't get tier from those

[clever belfry]

horizotnaliyi

[gleaming siren]

Correct

Especially not from the hero cache cause that's Ulduar loot table

[tawny oak]

you can convert the hero item from the box though

am i supposed to bt or rb during ravager with 4p thane?

[vale berry]

I think fury might be undertuned

[pallid barn]

do we not press roar on st at all or just when it all lines up with avat/reck?

[gleaming siren]

Don't check Farover's gear

Definitely don't

Surely we can make claims about tuning when Zac is still running old 4pc and Farover is running new 2pc only

[vale berry]

yeah but i don't think 4p will give 50% more damage

[gleaming siren]

Assa is the highest overall spec in the game it doesn't have to 👍

[vale berry]

if the 4p is "all damage increase by 50%" then yeah we're good

[pulsar prawn]

generally

[gleaming siren]

Actually insane statement

Luckily Thane 4pc is nuts

[pulsar prawn]

^^

[compact siren]

Meowser

[gleaming siren]

Grokstronk57 is that true?

[compact siren]

Yes

It is anda57 2

[clever belfry]

does that mean anda59 or anda114

[compact siren]

Anda789

[clever belfry]

wtf

jimmbob

final day of war

[compact siren]

I love war!

But I must raid

[clever belfry]

it is MIDDAY

are u

DAYRAIDING

[compact siren]

Final day of this

So sad

[clever belfry]

its even better when they turn to disco lights

[compact siren]

The house must stand

[clever belfry]

the house is alive

the grenades are coming

we must fornite it up

[undone flower]

It was alright in bf3 why it went that bad wtf

[rotund ginkgo]

fucking knew it

i knew i didnt misremember this shit

in the ptr of s2 df, the white color was raid finder and not myth

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[alpine steppe]

Is the Thane play on Soul Hunter mostly due to 2P/4P?

[remote bobcat]

4p

not 2p

[alpine steppe]

Sitting at no tier so unsure if worth playing Thane.

[rotund ginkgo]

no tier iirc slayer better

[remote bobcat]

play slayer if 0s or 2s

[rotund ginkgo]

4p thane better cuz they basically never day

never die*