#fury

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dense elbow
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Dont have 4p, most play Slayer

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I gonna play slayer either way tho

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So fuck me

proven stream
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its almost 300k over assa 😄

dense elbow
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Fair, 300k ST lead is worth 2m overall DPS loss copium

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I am just waiting for the day everyone get ST up tuning after the RWF. Yet Slayer gets no buffs to compensate the lost diff...

Ah, WoW raid based tuning, who doesn't love it

restive saffron
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Man i really like slayer

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How much dps does thane has over slayer?

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If the gap is not really big imma play slayer

dense elbow
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Not big enough that I care. About a 1-2m potential overall DPS loss in high AoE dungs

restive saffron
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2m overall is huge tho

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Unless u meant like huge packs

slate sun
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So this is my droptomizer from M+, i cant find where that ring drops lol?

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Seal of the panoply

wary falcon
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grand menagerie in tazavesh

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its actually called "Ring of the Panoply"

slate sun
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Yeah its diff stats

fresh creek
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so gor wednesday when we can recraft our weapon would it be worth spending al gilded to make it mythic from the start?

wind rose
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any way to sim solehs

fossil cloak
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shut the discord down so we get buffs

wheat oyster
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does anyone have a soleah secret technique macro/wa?

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i have one that shows 2ndary stats but keep forgetting to rebuff mid m+

proud barn
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Where can I see the stats cap ?? Good morning

fresh creek
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cool then im doing that

undone flower
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  • for 60 you get 2 weapons basically, since it gives free crest cost to your other weapon
fresh creek
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would be nice to get myth track weap from vault to then 😄

undone flower
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Your hero off hand will go 6/6 for free, which is nice

wind rose
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how can we pick the stat we want in the sim for soleh

bitter moss
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HI everyone i'm a pretty new fury player can someone tell me like how is the state of the spec and a good guide to watch !! thanks hope everyone have an amazing early season ^^

rotund ginkgo
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catalyze'd 1 piece to get 2p cuz i have an LFR drop

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and didnt have a tier from vault

iron portal
rotund ginkgo
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what talents do we play for 2p in M+?

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anyone?

undone flower
rotund ginkgo
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whats the gamble

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i got the lfr drop

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no shot im finishing this week with 0p

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fuck that

undone flower
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getting what you catalyzed in loot is the worst case scenario

rotund ginkgo
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womp womp

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i simply wont

undone flower
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Yes idc, it’s your game, I just wanted to say I love gambling

rotund ginkgo
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anyways idk what the optimal

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talent tree

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is

undone flower
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2p : you play like S2 basically, I have 2p too

warm crag
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p sure its literally the same as always

undone flower
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Just now you play with S3 sudden death conditions

plush maple
undone flower
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tbf i would say yes

plush maple
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Atleast you’re European so that’s a win

undone flower
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exactly

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even north american is winning the lottery

thick fossil
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I really hate how gimped we are until we get 4pc.

undone flower
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Today, I really feel a scam in keys yes

thick fossil
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Did a 10 HoA yesterday, none of us had 4pc. BM hunter 7.5 mil overall, mage 6 mil, me, 5 mil. Tank was a spaz, but the target cap gap is so annoying.

undone flower
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Hoa is the one I feel the worst, others I reduce the gap during the dungeon, but I can’t in this one

onyx brook
mossy fox
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4 set does a lot of heavy lifting

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still though we do get beaten by plenty of classes on overall

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at least our st owns

elder epoch
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People out here with 4p in first 2 days

thick fossil
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It's still a fucking disaster until you get 4pc. It really shouldn't be a band-aid, they should of done something to make us just flat out more competitive.

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If your guild does splits, it's not hard.

elder epoch
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Sitting on 2p but dont want to use cata for hero piece but i might do it

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Im on holidays so missed out on hero clear just did normal

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And lost both rolls on spider and soulbinder

onyx brook
elder epoch
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Ill try pug the 4th boss as well dunno if its doable in pugs yet

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Still using cata on hero pieces is cringe

drifting stirrup
stiff barn
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Mt is the play with 4set

onyx brook
stiff barn
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The difference in aoe is just too great to play slayer

drifting stirrup
rotund ginkgo
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we only bloodthirst at max crit right?

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at 5 stacks

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with 2p

river reef
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can you sim the soleah trinket for which stats are the best for you

eternal sundial
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There's scripts from SL but idk if ill find em

undone flower
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Is it this one ?

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i beat the hoa curse

cobalt relic
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bis for m+?

radiant plank
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no

cobalt relic
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really

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gg

obtuse stump
# cobalt relic

I think the stone cursed idol is now in the top
m+ trinkets

dry talon
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cursed stone idol trinked,do i need some special macro for it ?

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or just put in on use with reck and ava,and all the other stuff

tepid cedar
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Not gonna lie. As fun and as good as thane is. Slayer is still a very good asset to a key

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So many must die targets in some dungeons

fading sky
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Whats execute prio in aoe?

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I,cant help myselr and push it at times

undone flower
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execute itself or sudden death execute ?

fading sky
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Ah so it fucks in aoe as well

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Did not know

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What ive been doing naturally is correct😅

undone flower
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Yes you have bladestorm really frequently, just don’t press on simple executes because the set doesn’t work on these

molten wing
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tbh i'm sending the execute if i really want Bladestorm up asap

fading sky
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Yesh, i didnt know sd> rb

undone flower
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SD > rampage

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You should always SD the same target / a target with 10 stack of overwhelmed

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I don’t always send my SD from previous pack on the next / unless jug, I wait a lil bit to have overwhelmed stacks

fading sky
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Ill try the of cook build once i get 4p

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Atm 2p gamer

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I lack legs to catalyze

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And power curve says i should wait and pray for vault

undone flower
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me too, im spamming hoa because i need either shoulder or leg

fading sky
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I need 5 more 10s

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Dno if ill make ot

hybrid plume
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anyone knows if incorporeal essence-gorger trinket is simbait i.e it always assumes you hit it on an ethereal or does it sim with the lower stat?

fading sky
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It*

rotund ginkgo
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RAAAAAAA

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HALLS 10

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RAAAAAAAAAAAA

warm crag
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nerf fury

fading sky
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Lacks sham and brew

rotund ginkgo
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im on 2p btw

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add 12% from 4p and then add 5% from brew

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RAAAAAAA

fading sky
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Y 2p is a big upgrade though

rotund ginkgo
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yeah but its slayer upgrade

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id still do more damage as thane

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with 4p

solemn plover
fading sky
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No its slayer fury

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Plz dont nerf

thick fossil
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Starting to think 2pc is stronger for Slayer than Thane

timber cliff
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Sim says I'm 500k higher with slayer but meh

hollow juniper
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Guys did your dps also went down after s3? I feel like my aoe is not strong as before as thane. Thunder blast doesnt hit strong as s2 monkahmm

molten wing
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if you dont have 4p

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dont bother playing thane

muted tulip
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If you cannot defeat Kyveza, do not bother showing up to raid. This boss is a baseline mechanics check. If you cannot handle mechanics while maintaining a strong DPS or HPS rotation, you will only drag the group down on the harder fights ahead.
This is not optional. This is not “just a warm-up boss." This is the fight that tells us whether you can balance your gameplay fundamentals aka: awareness, movement, uptime, and performance but all at once. If you fail here, you will fail later.
If you can't be bothered to put in the hours to grind this fight, you are disrespecting the other 26 players on this roster who are putting in the work. This is a preparatory fight for a multi-week raid, and it requires commitment. If you can't commit now, you won't commit later.
You all said you wanted to improve as a raid and get a better ranking. That doesn't start with someone else carrying you, it starts with you improving your own gameplay. If you can't do that, you're dead weight. And yes, I'm talking to you, you slug.
And before anyone even thinks about saying, "my class isn't designed for this encounter" fucking save it. I've seen hundreds of Chinese VODs of Kyveza beaten on every single spec and every single hero talent combination possible. The fight is beatable. The capability exists. The only difference between them and you is execution and effort. So here's the bottom line: Beat Kyveza before raid night, or don't show up.

hollow juniper
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Im still using s2 4p and im almost weaker than anyone i met on pugs. St is good tho

wicked flicker
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Is there a setting in game or something that queues up inputs? When I play fury it sometimes feels like I accidentally raging blow twice when I didn’t mean to

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Feels like if I hit it whilst the animation is going it will do it again right after

timber cliff
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Beat her in raid, lost in a delve, so I need a round 3

thick fossil
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Double terts are a thing?

mossy fox
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🤨

thick fossil
mossy fox
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abnormal amount of speed on that yoo

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too*

muted tulip
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I found it here

lilac rivet
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where can i find a list with all abbreviations of skill?¿ i can´t understand when someone talk

timber cliff
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I assume they gave it the zoomies because the footbombs don't always spawn close to you

remote bobcat
remote bobcat
mossy fox
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aa it has inbuilt speed does it

thick fossil
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Str and a tert standard, hmm, neat.

molten wing
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damn if the trinket was just a little bit different and 1.5 it could have been decent

hushed ocean
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Can we close this discord until we're uncapped ?

remote bobcat
sinful spoke
wraith wharf
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i much rather prefer just making fun of the babies instead of joining them

sweet venture
inland flame
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Turns out we were all the warrior dev tha whole thyme

thick fossil
undone flower
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day 842, still no shoulder or leg

hardy vault
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it's possible to trigger WA execution conditions when execute is ready ? It's weird to have the WA trigger when execute is not ready <20%

undone flower
flat river
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got 4-set boiz

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time to do an m+

undone flower
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DONT

flat river
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why

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:<

undone flower
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you are not allowed to do a 4p m+ before me

flat river
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lol

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too bad

hardy vault
# undone flower

I know, i have 4p, but the WA can triggers when boss <20%, but execute can be on CD

flat river
undone flower
hardy vault
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and it's not possible to have the WA triggers when execution is not on CD ?

bitter palm
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shouldnt trigger when its not usable

undone flower
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for example, one condition is : 2 stack of sudden death, you press execute once, you get a cd, if you get AGAIN a sudden death proc, the WA will tell you

south lintel
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Someone do some math how will arms slayer vs fury look

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😄

bitter palm
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worse

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arms will still be worse

hardy vault
lean lava
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any pro tip for big pull as slayer fury 2p?

hardy bluff
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get 4p

undone flower
odd vapor
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is there a reason why i see so much ELF warriors?

brittle crow
undone flower
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if void elf, it's because it is useful in raid

spare steppe
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Orc together strong

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Zug zug

molten zodiac
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hey new fury warrior just hit 80, what is the m+ build i should be using not having any tier or anything yet?

lavish sierra
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Not sure but apparently when you get 2p slayer, don't push bloodthirst as often?

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Thane is apparently when you get 4pc

spare steppe
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2p prioritizes execute more, 4p RB even more

spare steppe
remote bobcat
remote bobcat
warm silo
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hey guys, having a question, what talents do you use for m+ and/ or raid? and which weap is the best you would say

obtuse palm
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I lost all my WA for some reason and I'm looking for an old Thunder Blast WA from Season 1, I don't like the one on WAGO atm. It does a sound when you get a proc. Anyone has it and can share it?

flat river
keen ferry
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How does Berserkers torment play into stacking both of the buffs always. Does it just extend the overall time instead? 28 sec avatar and 24 sec reck?

brittle crow
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they just stack yea

worn yoke
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Anyone else kinda hating how 'all or nothing' the Thane tier feels ?
Granted it's relatively strong, but given it's 35% proc chance if you get unlucky it can literally be a net 0 increase on a pack potentially as you're 2x more likely for no effect than to gain ionizing strikes...

I would much rather we see a set like:
2 = Thunderblast causes a chain reaction calling down 1-5 (calculated 100% chance for one, then ~80% chance for 2, ~60 for 3, ~40 for 4, ~20% for the 5th) Ionizing strikes dealing X damage
4 = Iozning strikes deal 100% more damage and have a 10% chance per strike to reset the cool down on Thunderblast, grant a charge, and make it cause 100% increased damage..

Overall I'd like to see more procs for less damage, than feeling like I'm always fishing for procs for a potential big damage gain but instead getting NOTHING when no proc

keen ferry
warm silo
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well. in a 5 min bossfight the return is mostly the same at every warri player with the set

hollow nest
warm silo
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  • / - 5% of the strikes dmg depending on the procs
lavish sierra
remote bobcat
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unless u have 4set

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if u only have 2set

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then RB doesnt give u much

undone flower
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basically you BT and execute WA, rb as filler

brittle crow
remote bobcat
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rb

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afterb ladestorm

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in aoe

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slayer build

brittle crow
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fucked up

lavish sierra
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only st then?

remote bobcat
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lads

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lads

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RB is hardcapped to 5

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reap the storm isnt

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farm reap

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with 2set only

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if u have 4set, click RB yea

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but if u only have 2set in m+

brittle crow
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i have 4set

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(old)

remote bobcat
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kek

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press BT

undone flower
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L

dry ruin
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Hi guys, small question : I got 2P in LFR and i can get 4P if i use my 2 catalyst charges on heroic shoulders and normal chest. Should i wait to drop heroic chest or do i go all in ?

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i'm not raiding btw

undone flower
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2p = new sudden death conditions WA
4p = RB proc reap now, so BT stocks goes down

remote bobcat
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see if u get smth good in vault

brittle crow
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everyone talking abt 2pc

undone flower
brittle crow
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i don't get that luxury

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I DIDNT PLAY S2 FURY

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I PLAYED PROT

undone flower
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oh

dry ruin
tepid cedar
undone flower
brittle crow
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shouldn't execute WA be the same conditions

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2 stacks of sd, or when 3 stacks of the thing, or when jugg is about to run out, or when sd is about to fall off

undone flower
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yes it is different

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S2 fury (before 2p) = S2 Sudden death WA

brittle crow
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what's so different

tepid cedar
undone flower
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you sudden death at 2 MFE

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now

lavish sierra
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2pece exe hits 10% more and does strikes?

brittle crow
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wonder how bad it is that im using the new one

warm silo
undone flower
warm silo
tepid cedar
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This was a normal fract with only 2p at the time. Rb goes hard

brittle crow
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ill survive

undone flower
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yes don't worry too much if you can't find the old one / lazy

undone flower
eternal compass
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Is there any WA linked for sd this season?

undone flower
eternal compass
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Thank you

undone flower
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if you have 2p S3 set

runic cypress
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On a scale of it's jover and we're so Barack how over is it for fury

hollow leaf
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am I free to swap to thane with 2pc

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for m+

slim coral
hollow leaf
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or do I need to wait until after splits tonight so I have 4pc

runic cypress
gloomy narwhal
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2p S2 and 2p s3 is good for m+ or dog shit ?

slim coral
raven oxide
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hey boys! how do i sim fury? for aoe

lavish sierra
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i've been using patchwerk 5 but

unborn sparrow
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I feel so weak without tier in keys at 692 without tier

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Thinking of just using catalyst to get 2 p

lavish sierra
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bad luck on normal raid / or just not available

unborn sparrow
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Bad luck in raid and heroic

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Just have tier helm

hollow leaf
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was a sim increase to toss them for ilvl

slim coral
smoky vale
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bazed

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i griefed last night

unborn sparrow
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Feel like warriors are expected to get all the orbs on this week’s affix too

smoky vale
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what

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who actually does affixes

bitter palm
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rumbling earth shockwave makes it free but i usually let someone else do it

restive peak
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We're in 12+ gear territory now, leave the garbage affix behind and ascend friends

fading geyser
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how much of a dps is it ish to not take roar or spear?

restive peak
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But 12s are more fun and don't have that dogshit affix

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I literally always choose 12s over 10s purely for that lol

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Also tbh if you're in a 12 rn, odds are the people are at least decent

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10s are the wild west

heavy nacelle
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man this newest fury iteration.. I have to think too much what to press between RB, BT and execute. This isn't what I signed up for, may as well go back to my rogue with all this complexity!!

hardy vault
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Tazavesh HM is 12 or 10 in term of difficulty ?

visual breach
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10

orchid dagger
slim coral
heavy nacelle
heavy nacelle
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maybe not for you cause you have an overclocked brain

orchid dagger
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You have to hit the dummy more

orchid dagger
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It's just muscle memory and knowing buff stacks

bitter palm
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exe if weakaura yells at you

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and exe in execute if 1 or more mfe

lavish sierra
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6+ targets use BT b/c of cleave from reap?

heavy nacelle
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btw, for slayer why does BT become more prio at 3+ targets, and much more at 6+? :p

spare steppe
heavy nacelle
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interesting, thx 😛

spare steppe
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Once you have 4p it matters less since RB triggers (as slayer)

flat river
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should i upgrade this then my other weapon for free

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1 upgrade i mean

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for 4/6

spare steppe
edgy widget
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If you’re crafting a weapon next week, save your crests

flat river
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oki

edgy widget
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If you’re not, then sure

flat river
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i am

edgy widget
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One weapon craft will discount other weapon upgrades

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And not a whole lot of reason to spend crests this late in the week besides

flat river
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ok

restive peak
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I did the 704 thing cuz of the announced vault change but honestly, not the best usage of 15 crests xD

spare steppe
undone flower
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i did too

edgy widget
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You didn’t need to in the first place

spare steppe
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Wasn’t discounting for me last season for some reason after crafting

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Can’t say I understand what or how

restive peak
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Sometimes need to relog but that's a bug, been instant for me the past 2 tiers

keen knoll
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Yo, hello all! Been playing fury since march! Is there a UI you recommend cause I get myself looking at the bottom of the screen a lot and getting hit by stuff!

jovial mauve
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we just run raid cleave for m+ when we're 2pc/2pc?

cerulean badger
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Can We craft 2h Next reset?

restive peak
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Yep right away tues

cerulean badger
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Thats amazing. How do we get the 2 Sparks though?

jovial mauve
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you should already have 1 spark and a fractured

cerulean badger
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Is there a questline or something ?

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Or maybe I have it in the bag and didnt See

jovial mauve
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just do stuff, m+ drops, raid drops, weekly quests gives one

cerulean badger
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Ok nice, thanks

restive peak
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Prob in your bags, it'll be in your reagent 1 if you have 1

cerulean badger
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Oh Right I always forget about that one

restive peak
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xD me too dude

shell jackal
finite ravine
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I use Luxthos

rotund ginkgo
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are we getting another cata next week?

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i recall catalyst being given on week 0 wasn't it?

low thicket
rotund ginkgo
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wasnt it week 0?

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like, didnt we get a charge on august 5 but just couldnt use it?

fast mural
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+10 floodgate both capstones below roar taken and it gets out dpsed by an enchant and trinket

rotund ginkgo
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im POSITIVE we had a charge

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is this a mandela effect?

finite ravine
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We got 1 Cata this week, but you can get a bonus cata if you hit 2000 M+ rating

rotund ginkgo
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yes im aware

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im talking about next week

low thicket
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we got a full spark in week 0. this week was our catalyst week

finite ravine
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Speaking of sparks, it is recommended that the first thing we craft as Fury is a weapon right?

fast mural
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yup

fast mural
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27

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gonna try spear now

rotund ginkgo
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is there a way to check when we got first charge of cata?

fast mural
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even tho its impossible to tell how much the crit dmg is gonna do

rotund ginkgo
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i got literally 4 ppl in discord telling me we got cata week 0

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and we're getting another cata next week

low thicket
fast mural
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its easy to tell if we get a full spark next week we wont get a catalyst charge

wintry smelt
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In all my years I have never seen this

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It is so beautiful

modest condor
humble wolf
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What do we use for M+ now? (arms main switching to fury :P)

rotund ginkgo
marble pilot
humble wolf
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but before 4 set?

low thicket
marble pilot
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Probably still thane. But 2 piece slayer is pretty good

humble wolf
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ok thanks.

rotund ginkgo
humble wolf
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is Fury 2 set better than arms 2 sety RN?

rotund ginkgo
marble pilot
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And if you are doign raid as fury. Everything except council is slayer as well

marble pilot
spare steppe
low thicket
spare steppe
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ATM

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After the second or third buff arms will be god tier

modest condor
spare steppe
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🙏

rotund ginkgo
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ye ok

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ty guys

humble wolf
spare steppe
humble wolf
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thanks, but i mean the difference on overall damage for arms and fury on m+

spare steppe
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ah shit can't help you there, I just know ST for arms is struggling atm and carrying into M+

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sorry mate

humble wolf
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Ah thanks mate 🙂 i main m+ 😛

orchid dagger
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Simple as

flat river
dense sedge
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How many crests is it to craft wep btw totally forgot

inland flame
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60

dense sedge
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Okay thank you

rotund ginkgo
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@modest condor

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icy veins says we get first cata aug 5

keen dove
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people have 105 gilded crests

rotund ginkgo
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and wowhead says aug 12

rotund ginkgo
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bountiful 11 delve

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gives quest

keen dove
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I did it

rotund ginkgo
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do it > do m2

keen dove
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its still 90

hardy bluff
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i didnt have a charge first week

marble pilot
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Gildeds start at +7s right? Im behind on m+ lots of work this week

wintry smelt
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Your application to +7 has been declined

marble pilot
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Done a couple 6s. But only liek 4 runs total so far

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Nah guild groups dont decline

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And F pugging

hard widget
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Fury owns

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Ngl

inland flame
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Hero track at 6, gildeds at 7, myth vault at 10

rotund ginkgo
marble pilot
rotund ginkgo
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best is to do 10s > highest ilvl hero

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otherwise 8 is ur best bet

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p sure 8 also gives myth vault

marble pilot
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Well yeah. But doign 10s for vault. But not as many people are doing 10s yet

rotund ginkgo
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coudl b wrong

marble pilot
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Pretty sure its 10s for myth vault

rotund ginkgo
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@hard widget

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look at this beaut

steel sky
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hero ilvl stops at +8. Farm +10 for vault if u can

rotund ginkgo
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no it doesnt

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a 8 drops 697

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a 10 drops 701

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how do u think people get to 700 ilvl week 1?

steel sky
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ur right

marble pilot
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As long as I get enough gildeds for weapon craft at start of next week should be golden. Can make it up later if I need to. I think ill be doing plenty of runs tonight/tomorrow though

inland flame
rotund ginkgo
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the play with idol is pre-pull cast into everything else, right?

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cuz 1s channel

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or wait

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no

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we want the channel to be after we're on mobs

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cuz aoe

steel sky
rotund ginkgo
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?

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blud

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ive been farming a lot

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im not saying i havent been lucky

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but id rather have 4p

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i had to catalyze + no vault tier

#

ive done 50 keys in less than 2 days

loud patrol
rotund ginkgo
#

i think we bind idol to charge??

#

works

#

checked on dummies

chilly fractal
#

Only 701 piece I really need to farm are pants at this point… so close to being done

wintry smelt
#

Ah good old wow

restive peak
#

Resil 12s all done, 13s soon, ez clap

young swan
smoky vale
#

gm xantage

#

were you in on world 2 nexus

young swan
#

nah

smoky vale
#

gg

rotund ginkgo
#

jk

#

linc can u compliment me

rotund ginkgo
#

im strapped

grim lake
#

Is everyone going Slayer for M+ still untill they have 4set?

#

or should i be in thane before getting 4 set

loud patrol
#

I’ve been rocking thane as 2p

young swan
#

definitely dont go thane before 4 set

loud patrol
#

Is it really that bad?

young swan
#

theres also a possibility of not going thane even after 4 set

loud patrol
#

Fuck

grim lake
#

0.o

young swan
loud patrol
#

Just slayers doing better?

restive peak
#

Slayer 4set OP, you're all missin out

rotund ginkgo
#

STOP

#

ur making me drool

#

STOP

young swan
#

im not even sure i would call it slayer doing better, slayer just brings the more important damage type

restive peak
#

Can't help it bro

rotund ginkgo
#

also

young swan
#

thane sacrifices quite a bit of st

loud patrol
#

Can’t get pieces to drop to cata to get 4p 😅

grim lake
#

sop just stay Slayer?? for now?

loud patrol
#

Works for me I prefer slayer anyways 😅

restive peak
#

Time to replace the embellish bro

rotund ginkgo
#

yep

#

time to bench the boost

#

boots

#

surprising actually

#

i think ill change wrist to vers maybe? not sure

#

the embellish i mean

#

or just writhing after weapon craft

#

save time

restive peak
#

You'll swap to writhing tues

rotund ginkgo
#

yeah

#

exactly

#

weds*

dense elbow
rotund ginkgo
#

american pig

restive peak
#

I broke 4.6mil

#

I'm afk til Tues now

serene vessel
#

Hey everyone, we are shutting down fury channel, no further questions ty

modest condor
#

finally

serene vessel
#

not related to blizzard or anything, yall just need to touch grass

mystic kayak
#

If I have two stacks of thunderblast, BT up, and 130 fury but i'm still enraged for about 2 seconds

#

What order of buttons should I be hitting?

#

TB > BT > Rampage?

lean heart
#

ramp tb bt

mystic kayak
#

Really?

orchid sluice
#

yea

mystic kayak
#

thats with 4p

orchid sluice
#

rage dump so no waste

mystic kayak
#

so i'm def not ramping enough

lean heart
#

youre at cap you dump rage

mystic kayak
#

i was just going off this

#

this says rampage >100 UNDER prio of BT,TB

marble pilot
#

I dont think itll happen too often. Bloodthirst has a cd. And tblast has charges. Sure you can string to gether a bunch of them with tier procs. But generally you will have a couple gcds for raging blow and rampage to fill before bloodthirst or tblast come back

wild mural
marble pilot
#

IMO if you are at max rage and have 2 charges and bloodthirst up. Then you already missed the last rampage window and are about to not be enraged anyway. So enrage first then send.
I cant see it happening where you just ramapaged and are rage capped and have 2 charges of tblast/bt

mystic kayak
#

I mean you could say i rampaged like 3 gcds ago

#

Then BT, TB which procced ionizing so i get a 2nd thing of TB again

#

Its happened ot me in this m+

#

Just wondering what the idea is bc I notice i'm castinng rampage much less with the 4p set

marble pilot
#

Ok Then you have 1 charge and BT is on cd. So you TBlast Raging blow rampage then BT again

wintry smelt
mystic kayak
#

Idk what else to say other than i've been at that exact moment and wondering what the play is

#

🤷‍♂️

tranquil dust
#

Are we getting next catalyst point next week or the one after?

marble pilot
#

With tblast and bloodthirst being more priority than rampage. Then I would just let rage cap. Sure you are wasting rage. But if you are not losing enrage, and are using higher damage abilities then it doesnt really matter.

#

If you lose enrage cause of it then you messed up.

mystic kayak
#

yeah ofc

#

thats why i was wondering

#

if my enrage is still fine should i just be sitting at 130 rage for like

#

2 gcds

orchid sluice
#

do you have anger managment?

marble pilot
#

Some arguement there for spending the rage regardless for cdr ravager/reck

mystic kayak
echo rapids
orchid sluice
#

then spending rage is yours prio no 1

tranquil dust
marble pilot
#

Yeah the cdr can make just spending worth it. Cause you have higher uptime on reck/ravager

echo rapids
#

This next reset is our second full spark

marble pilot
#

Kinda curious how Reckless abandon is stacking up in m+

#

At least for thane

dense sedge
#

Generally with Simmingi just leave it as the default setting on raid bots wasn't sure if this was the most accurate for checking gear for say m+

spare steppe
#

sim is recommending i break 4p with just ilvl upgrades 😭

restive peak
#

Revvez on DPS warr in mythic if anyone wants to see

cobalt relic
#

@restive peak can we macro avatar with roar

#

on thane

lapis shadow
spare steppe
#

dope

gleaming siren
#

<@&257983573498265600>

restive peak
lapis shadow
#

<@&257983573498265600>

restive peak
#

The diff between sending roar right off the rip or waiting for the "priority" in 5-6 GCDs is so miniscule I'd rather just remove thinking about it

young swan
#

waho

lapis shadow
#

demonic macro

slim coral
#

Close the channel until we're target capped to 8

lapis shadow
marble pilot
slim coral
#

True double digits

restive peak
#

NGL we would be fuckin busted rn with 8 t cap

#

Hopefully we get the sweet 12.0 rework

#

To fix our specs

marble pilot
#

Nope just remove tier sets. And be happy you have a house

spare steppe
#

i hope warrior gets some positive development

restive peak
#

sends both if you keep pressing

#

Personally I keep rav/bs on its own button

#

And just pop roar into reck/ava

cobalt relic
#

thing is aint u supposed to reck ava pre charge

#

so my roar would technically go to waste yk

restive peak
#

Huh?

#

Charge>reck>enrage>press macro

marble pilot
#

I have ravager on reck. Cause they have the same cd

slim coral
#

I'm going vintage venthyr house

dense sedge
#

When simming for m+ is patchwerk the best setting>

restive peak
#

Just press your ava/reck button, if reck is off CD it sends

#

And have a separate reck button for fight start/the odd time you wanna hold ava but send it

#

Don't sim for M+, sim ST, use your brain for trinkets

#

We do our ST into a prio target to AOE

dense sedge
brittle crow
#

why not

#

you only get enough rage to rampage if you reck charge ava

hard widget
#

Wtf

plush zephyr
cobalt relic
plush zephyr
#

I have everything just about macro’d to reck but temp pots but keep separate keybinds for doesn’t line up

brittle crow
#

do we have to press ava first

cobalt relic
#

doubt

brittle crow
#

cuz i always press reck first

#

..

restive peak
cobalt relic
#

same

#

@brittle crow so reck ava then charge yes

restive peak
#

Also hai Jevvvvy

dense sedge
dire vigil
#

Anyone done the deathless hard mode yet and can advise if it feels like a 10?

lapis shadow
modest condor
warm crag
#

sending myth crests on a slot you probably want to craft this reset is certainly something

dense sedge
#

truth

proven stream
cobalt relic
#

why is it better to pick nothing

#

?

warm crag
#

isnt the alternative aoe stormbolt

#

you dont really want that it drs future stuns without much benefit

storm rune
#

also gives it +10s CD

cobalt relic
#

so pick neither?

storm rune
#

all around awful

#

you're forced to pick one, so you pick the one that doesnt do anything

#

prot does the same

cobalt relic
#

also hack and slash useless?

#

if we got 4p thane

#

rather take ferocity over that no?

young swan
#

yeah pretty much

marble pilot
#

More of an issue for organized groups right? I feel like it catches a lot of free cc/inturrupts cause while I cant pick the bonus target it can hit one of the casters that my random other pugs are not kicking.

edgy widget
marble pilot
#

Though being focused one my targets with 10 sec less cd is good

edgy widget
#

Extremely rare that you’re throwing SB on CD anyway, but if you don’t like it, don’t take it dracthyr_shrug

cobalt relic
#

@edgy widget why rumbling earth over rally?

#

for m+

edgy widget
#

Cause Rally sucks

cobalt relic
#

really

storm rune
#

increasing the CD by 33% for no quantifiable gain sounds like a loss to me 🤷‍♂️

cobalt relic
#

did not expect that

edgy widget
#

Even in raid, it’s only good when layered with other defensives

#

And in m+ you don’t have a bunch of extra player abilities to layer it with

dire vigil
#

It’s a little feels bad this week to watch someone barely rot out when rally may have made the difference though lol

edgy widget
#

So as a stand-alone ability, the likelihood of Rally having any difference on your ability to survive something is extremely minimal

#

And more likely that controlling incoming damage better with something like Rumbling, or healing more with Second Wind, would help you survive

edgy widget
winter shoal
#

Fuck rally amen

#

Rally actually did save our lock on dimensius but he was greeding his defensives anyways and relying on externals smh

cobalt relic
#

is being enraged not necessary for roar?

edgy widget
#

Rally isn’t even good vs rot dam anyway, 10% hp is nothing against a constant source of damage - it’s to mitigate big bursts (though still a small)

marble pilot
#

I dont think Ive ever used rally for myself. Generally pop it when I notice the tank hovering between 0-20% and hope that helps with some % healing. Its really bad

winter shoal
edgy widget
marble pilot
#

Outside raid at least. In raid I use it when im told

cobalt relic
#

ohhh

#

I did not know that

edgy widget
#

Same with Ravager, it doesn’t start dealing damage immediately

#

So you can throw it and then enrage

cobalt relic
#

also whatever if we use it on the pack or prior to charge?

#

ravager

edgy widget
#

You generally don’t want to throw Rav from a distance; since its duration starts immediately, it’s easy to lose a tick that way

#

I suggest just using an @ player macro to auto drop it at your feet

marble pilot
#

Yeah I auto drop mine. I place it for prot still. Or I did before they got the passive version. I love that thing

rotund ginkgo
#

@restive peak

robust basin
#

Slayer feels so much better than thane in keys

winter shoal
#

Holy brew cranking

winter shoal
#

Thane feels insane when you high roll though

#

I did like 10m on ecodome first boss bc I could not stop proccing (as thane)

south kayak
marble pilot
#

Insert squidward meme of me watchign all the 4 piece warriors have fun

winter shoal
marble pilot
rotund ginkgo
#

3 warrs

#

like 2 zenith drops

#

on both splits

#

were 3 warrs, 2 evos, 2 monks and 1 rogue

#

🙂

#

or 3 evos im not sure

#

we're 9 zeniths

edgy widget
#

Thane is better overall dam, Slayer just has real nice bossing

marble pilot
#

I dont run mythic anymore so no splits for me. Im pretty casual so it isnt a big deal. Ill get there.

#

If anything Id be a helper in a split getting paid lol

cobalt relic
#

is it significant

edgy widget
#

Yeah, esp on higher target counts

winter shoal
#

I'd say like 1m overall if I had to ballpark it

#

Based on the keys I've run

edgy widget
#

It’s at least 10% higher, if you’re in a heavy pull key then very likely more

winter shoal
#

That's without roar caps as slayer tho

#

But slayer boss dam is much higher

#

So what actually makes the key faster is up in the air

marble pilot
#

Now how much higher is slayer on ST.
How much trolling am I doing by camping thane in raid

winter shoal
#

Slayer ~10% ahead on st

south kayak
winter shoal
#

in m+ spec

#

~13% or so in slayer st spec without imp ww

fast mural
#

slayer is for sure the play in streets

south kayak
cobalt relic
edgy widget
#

I run OF as Slayer atm

south kayak
#

of packs

winter shoal
fast mural
#

and also 5 bosses

south kayak
winter shoal
#

Banned

south kayak
#

this too

edgy widget
winter shoal
#

I think thane on forgeweaver is an insane grief if you're progging

#

Useless pad dam that steals other classes' funnel onto boss

edgy widget
#

That’s why I said maybe

marble pilot
winter shoal
#

Thane is probably better overall on forgeweaver if you're not progging, but at that point idk if the adds even live long enough for you to pad on them

#

We'll see how mythic goes tho

#

"overall" in the overall dps sense

edgy widget
#

Could depend on your comp makeup too, I’m not arguing about it, just saying that it’s the only other fight with enough potential add uptime for Thane to have a potential purpose

winter shoal
#

Archi were you dropping crit or haste for roar caps as OF slayer?

winter shoal
edgy widget
#

W/ 2p I was dropping Swift Strikes, with 4p I’d drop Deft (much as I like having it)

winter shoal
#

I meant class tree

#

I'm never dropping deft tho

marble pilot
#

I have a lot of people that do pretty good ST and struggle to swap to adds quickly. So when I can blast the adds it can help

#

Stix was rough with no one killing crabs

winter shoal
#

Looks like it was updated august 12

radiant plank
#

Updated it

#

forgor

fading sky
#

Ye adds lived to long for us

upper wigeon
#

i did the cardinal sin for this patch warrior ro hunter

eternal sundial
#

walhe big cluegi

radiant plank
#

that its 16

eternal sundial
#

doesnt remember updating his own shit

radiant plank
#

and not 12

toxic jewel
#

maybe us warriors need to cry like the ret paladins do 🤔

flat river
#

wdym

#

fury pumping

edgy widget
cobalt relic
#

running these for now

#

till I get signet ig

#

not too shabby

south kayak
#

not idol?

cobalt relic
junior gale
#

Your still gonna want an idol

cobalt relic
#

whys that

junior gale
#

It's an on use trinket good for burst AOE when needed

south kayak
#

It's bis for M+ no?

#

maybe not

cobalt relic
#

@edgy widget opinion

junior gale
south kayak
#

Pinging people for opinion

#

gg

fading sky
#

REBUFF SAC!

cobalt relic
#

gg

edgy widget
cobalt relic
#

idol;

#

for M+?

edgy widget
#

Idol is much better now that they buffed it back up a bit, I'm not sure I'd call it bis though

#

you're not getting Mythic Screams anytime soon either though

cobalt relic
#

heroic screams

fading sky
#

so is it better than HC scream

cobalt relic
fading sky
#

is basicly what we wanna know

radiant plank
#

Scream = bad in key

#

need comabt time to ramp

edgy widget
#

Scream is an odd trinket, it can end up wasting a lot of damage on overkill

radiant plank
#

Like signet from amidrassil

tepid lily
#

OF build

#

interesting

edgy widget
#

but again, if things are dying at the same time, a lot of that dam can get wasted

#

so it's just an odd trinket - potentially powerful in some situations, less powerful in others

radiant plank
#

More of a reason to pad on the smallies first

cobalt relic
#

so its inconsistent

junior gale
#

If it's m+ no need to think to hard send one on use and one passive

edgy widget
#

the performance may be inconsistent yes

junior gale
#

Idol + whatever

edgy widget
#

but people are using it in keys right now and it's still doing 4-6% of their damage, which is not bad at all

#

most direct dam trinkets are usually closer to 2-3%

flat river
#

holy dimensius heroic is so movement intensive

cobalt relic
#

@junior gale seaforium>idol?

edgy widget
#

Seaforium is good, but it sims better than it works in practice

young swan
edgy widget
#

since you're not always fighting on a 60s cadence

young swan
#

the benefit of on use trinket over passive trinkets is that you can choose to have damage when you need it

edgy widget
#

you also don't need to keep pinging people asking about every trinket and whether it's BiS or not - BiS doesn't mean a damn thing when you don't actually have all of those items available to you dracthyr_crylaugh

hard widget
#

@edgy widget Is my trinket bis?

edgy widget
#

no but my hammer is johnbancat

hard widget
olive wraith
junior gale
hard widget
#

Please dont ban me, how else will i ping people to ask about trinkets 🙁

junior gale
#

It's like house of cards just Crit not mastery

winter shoal
#

Archi do you know if anything changed simc-side with CSI? Droptimizer is now saying it's a big uppie for me (+0.9%) when it was -0.3% before

radiant plank
#

its like puzzle box

fading sky
#

CSI?

young swan
#

idol

surreal token
#

do you guys know if t11 quest still ignores crest cap

#

or has it already been fixed

winter shoal
#

From what I've heard yes it does

surreal token
winter shoal
#

Ignores

surreal token
#

mashallah

edgy widget
#

also just go fuckin do it and find out lol

surreal token
#

true

proven stream
#

OUR GOAT

unborn sparrow
#

Do we get the second spark Tuesday for our 2 handers or just a fragment?

polar narwhal
#

I mean... how big is the impact? For RWF it might make a small difference, but I can imagine 20 people with 2 extra upgrades vs. 20 characters that don't can be big.

chrome plover
modest condor
#

damn they got the trinket from spoder boss

steel shard
#

I hope method beats echo

#

good content

young swan
#

i hope liquid loses

proven stream
#

and he's benched again

#

🙁

modest condor
#

i hope the last 2 bosses are fun

young swan
#

i feel like they will both be aids as fuck

warm wharf
#

anyone got tips on the worst boss of the season so far: getting accepted into pug keys?

unborn sparrow
surreal token
#

play prot lol

#

problem solved

warm wharf
#

my own key has been depleted to hell sadly

latent ledge
#

Are you guys also getting shifted towards haste/versa from sims?

#

ITs asking me to go hard for it rn on rings, gems, enchants etc

elder plover
#

Anyone know if the "Screams of the Forgotten Sky" Trinket is any good in M+?

olive wraith
#

Yes sims are pushing me into vers

marble swift
#

Is fury AOE cap bad or am I crazy

#

I did ret all last season this feels weak af

olive wraith
#

Fury is fine

#

Yes it is soft capped

marble swift
#

It's ok tbh just feels behind in giga pulls vs other classes

warm wharf
#

it's almost like we're capped at 5 targets for most spells

marble swift
#

Like priory 2nd boss

olive wraith
#

It’ll even out with the rest of the key

rotund ginkgo
#

blasting maplestory songs while doing a 12 dawnbreaker

#

peak

olive wraith
#

Holy maplestory mentioned

#

Which song

rotund ginkgo
#

rn just theme song

#

its a playlist

#

come tune in

#

ttv ragishwow

olive wraith
#

Play kerning on a loop

rotund ginkgo
#

lmao i might

marble swift
olive wraith
olive wraith
marble swift
#

Copy paste m+ wowhead

#

So thundergod

olive wraith
#

You have 4p?

marble swift
#

Nah only 2+2

#

Heroic was unlucky

olive wraith
#

I recommend you swap to slayer then

#

Thane 2p isn’t that good on its own

marble swift
#

Oh right critcake mentioned that

olive wraith
#

2p slayer is pretty good

marble swift
#

Is there a build posted somewhere

olive wraith
#

30s bs is pretty solid

#

Uhhh I think there’s several cooks

radiant plank
#

wowhead as usual

olive wraith
#

Some take OF

radiant plank
#

has m+ slurry

olive wraith
#

And ya wowhead has like a traditional aoe setup

marble swift
#

The wowhead slayer works?

radiant plank
#

ofc

marble swift
#

Ill try it out

olive wraith
#

Wowhead has opportunist? Idr

lean heart
#

nerf incoming its over deadge

marble swift
flat river
lean heart
#

ive doomed us..

raven oxide
#

sacbrood or peace maker?

#

for passive trink

undone flower
#

CLOSE THE CHANNEL #pvp QUICK

lean heart
flat river
lean heart
#

tbf dawn really good key for slayer

#

it was a 10

undone flower
#

Yeah dawn is nice

#

Like streets

hollow leaf
#

that dk has not seen many good warriors ig

lean heart
#

the second boss i just line bladestorm with the ads

hollow leaf
#

don't even have to line it, it just does it by itself xd

lean heart
#

yeh felt like i didnt do that insane

undone flower
#

Dawn overalls are weird because of rash

hollow leaf
#

Idk I've been keeping up with the frosts and unholys in my keys

#

tend to hover around 5.9-6.1m overall without 4p

#

(I just want 4p pleaaaase)

undone flower
#

Yeah me too, still trying to find a hero track shoulder or leg

hollow leaf
#

we're told not to catalyze anything that isn't myth

#

which is fair

fleet wave
#

how can we sim M+? not sure what trinket to choose between the two

lean heart
#

only running 2+2 rn next week we get 4p thane stonk ⬆️

hollow leaf
lean heart
#

but also maybe depends on key comps i might still run slayer with 4p in some keys

#

the boss dmg is crazy

hollow leaf
#

slayer definitely has a place in m+ given how overwhelmingly stupid assa for instance is on aoe

#

while also being negative on ST

lean heart
#

real

hollow leaf
#

having that extra prio damage is great

#

time for nexus king and dimensius hc splits

#

prayge for maw

rotund ginkgo
#

why do we want maw

hollow leaf
#

free hero weapon

undone flower
#

Free upgrade yep

hollow leaf
#

at 6/6

rotund ginkgo
#

o

#

ic

hollow leaf
#

it's more relevant for arms

iron holly
#

simming myself tells me to put quick onyx in every socket, do I do tht or stick to what wowhead says with culminating blasphemite, quick onyx and 1 of each other the other 3?

rotund ginkgo
#

hows it more relevant to arms

#

if u have one 710 u have both

#

as fury

hollow leaf
#

better stats

iron holly
rotund ginkgo
#

oh i meant the free upgrade

radiant plank
hollow leaf
#

oh no I just mean the weapon given its stats are more sided with what arms want

#

but regardless you want it because it's a free 6/6 hero wep

rotund ginkgo
#

they actually made a cool looking hammer

#

:pog:

radiant plank
#

Only max colors

hollow leaf
#

that does consume a lot of comparison tokens

#

so just be aware

iron holly
#

ohhhh ok thank you I didn't realize that was a thing

echo rapids
#

Won’t crafting a 2 hander on Tuesday let you upgrade a hero weapon to max for free?

rotund ginkgo
#

it would as well yes