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its almost 300k over assa 😄
Fair, 300k ST lead is worth 2m overall DPS loss 
I am just waiting for the day everyone get ST up tuning after the RWF. Yet Slayer gets no buffs to compensate the lost diff...
Ah, WoW raid based tuning, who doesn't love it

Man i really like slayer
How much dps does thane has over slayer?
If the gap is not really big imma play slayer
Not big enough that I care. About a 1-2m potential overall DPS loss in high AoE dungs
So this is my droptomizer from M+, i cant find where that ring drops lol?
Seal of the panoply
so gor wednesday when we can recraft our weapon would it be worth spending al gilded to make it mythic from the start?
any way to sim solehs
shut the discord down so we get buffs
does anyone have a soleah secret technique macro/wa?
i have one that shows 2ndary stats but keep forgetting to rebuff mid m+
Where can I see the stats cap ?? Good morning
it only costs 60, and yes
cool then im doing that
- for 60 you get 2 weapons basically, since it gives free crest cost to your other weapon
would be nice to get myth track weap from vault to then 😄
Your hero off hand will go 6/6 for free, which is nice
how can we pick the stat we want in the sim for soleh
HI everyone i'm a pretty new fury player can someone tell me like how is the state of the spec and a good guide to watch !! thanks hope everyone have an amazing early season ^^
catalyze'd 1 piece to get 2p cuz i have an LFR drop
and didnt have a tier from vault

It would only make sense to craft it at max level...
I love the passion for gambling
whats the gamble
i got the lfr drop
no shot im finishing this week with 0p
fuck that
getting what you catalyzed in loot is the worst case scenario
Yes idc, it’s your game, I just wanted to say I love gambling
2p : you play like S2 basically, I have 2p too
p sure its literally the same as always
Just now you play with S3 sudden death conditions
Did you win or lose lottery by being French?
tbf i would say yes
Atleast you’re European so that’s a win
I really hate how gimped we are until we get 4pc.
Today, I really feel a scam in keys yes
Did a 10 HoA yesterday, none of us had 4pc. BM hunter 7.5 mil overall, mage 6 mil, me, 5 mil. Tank was a spaz, but the target cap gap is so annoying.
Hoa is the one I feel the worst, others I reduce the gap during the dungeon, but I can’t in this one
really hard to be higher than 5m overall
4 set does a lot of heavy lifting
still though we do get beaten by plenty of classes on overall
at least our st owns
People out here with 4p in first 2 days
It's still a fucking disaster until you get 4pc. It really shouldn't be a band-aid, they should of done something to make us just flat out more competitive.
If your guild does splits, it's not hard.
Sitting on 2p but dont want to use cata for hero piece but i might do it
Im on holidays so missed out on hero clear just did normal
And lost both rolls on spider and soulbinder

I see u're stream yesterday, I was like " wow 4pc so strong"
Ill try pug the 4th boss as well dunno if its doable in pugs yet
Still using cata on hero pieces is cringe
You playing slayer or MT? In keys
Mt is the play with 4set
He plays thane
The difference in aoe is just too great to play slayer

can you sim the soleah trinket for which stats are the best for you
There's scripts from SL but idk if ill find em
no
I think the stone cursed idol is now in the top
m+ trinkets
cursed stone idol trinked,do i need some special macro for it ?
or just put in on use with reck and ava,and all the other stuff
Not gonna lie. As fun and as good as thane is. Slayer is still a very good asset to a key
So many must die targets in some dungeons
execute itself or sudden death execute ?
Ah so it fucks in aoe as well
Did not know
What ive been doing naturally is correct😅
Yes you have bladestorm really frequently, just don’t press on simple executes because the set doesn’t work on these
tbh i'm sending the execute if i really want Bladestorm up asap
Yesh, i didnt know sd> rb
SD > rampage
You should always SD the same target / a target with 10 stack of overwhelmed
I don’t always send my SD from previous pack on the next / unless jug, I wait a lil bit to have overwhelmed stacks
Ill try the of cook build once i get 4p
Atm 2p gamer
I lack legs to catalyze
And power curve says i should wait and pray for vault
me too, im spamming hoa because i need either shoulder or leg
anyone knows if incorporeal essence-gorger trinket is simbait i.e it always assumes you hit it on an ethereal or does it sim with the lower stat?
It*
nerf fury
Lacks sham and brew
Y 2p is a big upgrade though
nerf fury
Starting to think 2pc is stronger for Slayer than Thane
I definitely feel stronger on Slayer with 2pc
Sim says I'm 500k higher with slayer but meh
Guys did your dps also went down after s3? I feel like my aoe is not strong as before as thane. Thunder blast doesnt hit strong as s2 
If you cannot defeat Kyveza, do not bother showing up to raid. This boss is a baseline mechanics check. If you cannot handle mechanics while maintaining a strong DPS or HPS rotation, you will only drag the group down on the harder fights ahead.
This is not optional. This is not “just a warm-up boss." This is the fight that tells us whether you can balance your gameplay fundamentals aka: awareness, movement, uptime, and performance but all at once. If you fail here, you will fail later.
If you can't be bothered to put in the hours to grind this fight, you are disrespecting the other 26 players on this roster who are putting in the work. This is a preparatory fight for a multi-week raid, and it requires commitment. If you can't commit now, you won't commit later.
You all said you wanted to improve as a raid and get a better ranking. That doesn't start with someone else carrying you, it starts with you improving your own gameplay. If you can't do that, you're dead weight. And yes, I'm talking to you, you slug.
And before anyone even thinks about saying, "my class isn't designed for this encounter" fucking save it. I've seen hundreds of Chinese VODs of Kyveza beaten on every single spec and every single hero talent combination possible. The fight is beatable. The capability exists. The only difference between them and you is execution and effort. So here's the bottom line: Beat Kyveza before raid night, or don't show up.
Im still using s2 4p and im almost weaker than anyone i met on pugs. St is good tho
Is there a setting in game or something that queues up inputs? When I play fury it sometimes feels like I accidentally raging blow twice when I didn’t mean to
Feels like if I hit it whilst the animation is going it will do it again right after
Too many words
Beat her in raid, lost in a delve, so I need a round 3
Double terts are a thing?
🤨
Where the hell did that come from? For sure a copy/pasta.
I found it here
where can i find a list with all abbreviations of skill?¿ i can´t understand when someone talk
I assume they gave it the zoomies because the footbombs don't always spawn close to you
the item itself comes with speed, sir. Avoidance is the tert proc.
that's intended my g
aa it has inbuilt speed does it
Str and a tert standard, hmm, neat.
damn if the trinket was just a little bit different and 1.5 it could have been decent
Still very good
Can we close this discord until we're uncapped ?
this
theres no reason to get uncapped
@edgy widget make it happen
i much rather prefer just making fun of the babies instead of joining them
it will work for sure, 'cause blizzard is continously checking class discords to balance the game, without them they would be screwed
Turns out we were all the warrior dev tha whole thyme

day 842, still no shoulder or leg
it's possible to trigger WA execution conditions when execute is ready ? It's weird to have the WA trigger when execute is not ready <20%
DONT
you are not allowed to do a 4p m+ before me
I know, i have 4p, but the WA can triggers when boss <20%, but execute can be on CD

yes, because the conditions are met, so you know you will press execute when it comes back
check newest update
and it's not possible to have the WA triggers when execution is not on CD ?
shouldnt trigger when its not usable
for example, one condition is : 2 stack of sudden death, you press execute once, you get a cd, if you get AGAIN a sudden death proc, the WA will tell you
thanks !
any pro tip for big pull as slayer fury 2p?
get 4p

is there a reason why i see so much ELF warriors?
give me your account
night elf ? because it is very powerful for m+
if void elf, it's because it is useful in raid
hey new fury warrior just hit 80, what is the m+ build i should be using not having any tier or anything yet?
Not sure but apparently when you get 2p slayer, don't push bloodthirst as often?
Thane is apparently when you get 4pc
4p
2p prioritizes execute more, 4p RB even more
Build doesn’t change just some aspects of your rotation for slayer and thane
2p slayer clicks BT and Execute in aoe
velf sims rly high and nelf has a goated racial, but then again people just like to play skinny women unfortunately.
hey guys, having a question, what talents do you use for m+ and/ or raid? and which weap is the best you would say
I lost all my WA for some reason and I'm looking for an old Thunder Blast WA from Season 1, I don't like the one on WAGO atm. It does a sound when you get a proc. Anyone has it and can share it?
Nelf not skinny, nelf is fit 
nuh uh
How does Berserkers torment play into stacking both of the buffs always. Does it just extend the overall time instead? 28 sec avatar and 24 sec reck?
they just stack yea
Anyone else kinda hating how 'all or nothing' the Thane tier feels ?
Granted it's relatively strong, but given it's 35% proc chance if you get unlucky it can literally be a net 0 increase on a pack potentially as you're 2x more likely for no effect than to gain ionizing strikes...
I would much rather we see a set like:
2 = Thunderblast causes a chain reaction calling down 1-5 (calculated 100% chance for one, then ~80% chance for 2, ~60 for 3, ~40 for 4, ~20% for the 5th) Ionizing strikes dealing X damage
4 = Iozning strikes deal 100% more damage and have a 10% chance per strike to reset the cool down on Thunderblast, grant a charge, and make it cause 100% increased damage..
Overall I'd like to see more procs for less damage, than feeling like I'm always fishing for procs for a potential big damage gain but instead getting NOTHING when no proc
Thanks 🙂
it's just u
i love gambling
well. in a 5 min bossfight the return is mostly the same at every warri player with the set
- / - 5% of the strikes dmg depending on the procs
wait like...when everything is popping, execute and bloodthird lots between raging blows? it feels like everything is up all the time
? in aoe you really dont press RB that much
unless u have 4set
if u only have 2set
then RB doesnt give u much
basically you BT and execute WA, rb as filler
it's only after bladestorm and as filler right
you dont click
rb
afterb ladestorm
in aoe
slayer build
fucked up
only st then?
lads
lads
RB is hardcapped to 5
reap the storm isnt
farm reap
with 2set only
if u have 4set, click RB yea
but if u only have 2set in m+
L
Hi guys, small question : I got 2P in LFR and i can get 4P if i use my 2 catalyst charges on heroic shoulders and normal chest. Should i wait to drop heroic chest or do i go all in ?
i'm not raiding btw
2p = new sudden death conditions WA
4p = RB proc reap now, so BT stocks goes down
i would wait for next ID
see if u get smth good in vault
yep
what about old 4p!
everyone talking abt 2pc
YOU ARE PLAYING S2 FURY
oh
ty
As good as we are now compared to last season. 8t would be a lot better. But it won’t ever change. Haha
basically you have different conditions to spend executes (shouldn't be that bad if you use the new one tbf), and you BT in aoe
shouldn't execute WA be the same conditions
2 stacks of sd, or when 3 stacks of the thing, or when jugg is about to run out, or when sd is about to fall off
what's so different
Yea but don’t sleep on RB it still does a fuckton of dps
2pece exe hits 10% more and does strikes?
wonder how bad it is that im using the new one
pardon me? what?
in my opinion, not that bad, you are not massively trolling doing this
as long as onslaught is on 10 stacks, it does give a extra slaughtering strike, with 100% yes
This was a normal fract with only 2p at the time. Rb goes hard
it's only til tuesday anyways
ill survive
yes don't worry too much if you can't find the old one / lazy
the one from jeventes is correct for S2
https://wago.io/SuKT7KC8I
Is there any WA linked for sd this season?
this one from cone is for S3
https://wago.io/r8u4tHLRQ
Thank you
if you have 2p S3 set
On a scale of it's jover and we're so Barack how over is it for fury
Fury is in a good state dps wise for the most part
or do I need to wait until after splits tonight so I have 4pc
Are we at least beating ret paladins
2p S2 and 2p s3 is good for m+ or dog shit ?
I believe slayer might be slighly better with 2pc 2 pc but I don't know for sure
On st sure
hey boys! how do i sim fury? for aoe
i've been using patchwerk 5 but
I feel so weak without tier in keys at 692 without tier
Thinking of just using catalyst to get 2 p
bad luck on normal raid / or just not available
not even playing old 2pc anymore
was a sim increase to toss them for ilvl
just sim ST
Feel like warriors are expected to get all the orbs on this week’s affix too
rumbling earth shockwave makes it free but i usually let someone else do it
We're in 12+ gear territory now, leave the garbage affix behind and ascend friends
Prot yes not dps
how much of a dps is it ish to not take roar or spear?
rewards cap at 10
But 12s are more fun and don't have that dogshit affix
I literally always choose 12s over 10s purely for that lol
Also tbh if you're in a 12 rn, odds are the people are at least decent
10s are the wild west
man this newest fury iteration.. I have to think too much what to press between RB, BT and execute. This isn't what I signed up for, may as well go back to my rogue with all this complexity!!
Tazavesh HM is 12 or 10 in term of difficulty ?
10
The flowchart is pretty clear
W
I understand the priorities, but in the heat of battle when you have to spam like a maniac there's too much thinking required 😛
Not really
maybe not for you cause you have an overclocked brain
You have to hit the dummy more
It's just muscle memory and knowing buff stacks
ye too much thinking press ramp if u can rb otherwise
exe if weakaura yells at you
and exe in execute if 1 or more mfe
6+ targets use BT b/c of cleave from reap?
btw, for slayer why does BT become more prio at 3+ targets, and much more at 6+? :p
BT has a chance per target hit to trigger reap I believe
interesting, thx 😛
Once you have 4p it matters less since RB triggers (as slayer)
Why not wait to craft a weapon next week and then do it for free?
If you’re crafting a weapon next week, save your crests
oki
If you’re not, then sure
i am
One weapon craft will discount other weapon upgrades
And not a whole lot of reason to spend crests this late in the week besides
ok
I did the 704 thing cuz of the announced vault change but honestly, not the best usage of 15 crests xD
Do you still need to swap to arms, equip, and log out for the discount to work?
i did too
You didn’t need to in the first place
Wasn’t discounting for me last season for some reason after crafting
Can’t say I understand what or how
Sometimes need to relog but that's a bug, been instant for me the past 2 tiers
Yo, hello all! Been playing fury since march! Is there a UI you recommend cause I get myself looking at the bottom of the screen a lot and getting hit by stuff!
we just run raid cleave for m+ when we're 2pc/2pc?
Can We craft 2h Next reset?
Yep right away tues
Thats amazing. How do we get the 2 Sparks though?
you should already have 1 spark and a fractured
just do stuff, m+ drops, raid drops, weekly quests gives one
Ok nice, thanks
Prob in your bags, it'll be in your reagent 1 if you have 1
Oh Right I always forget about that one
xD me too dude
entirely personal preference. i use Naowh UI
I use Luxthos
are we getting another cata next week?
i recall catalyst being given on week 0 wasn't it?
we got our first catalyst charge this week. next week should be a full spark, the week of the 26th should be catalyst
+10 floodgate both capstones below roar taken and it gets out dpsed by an enchant and trinket
We got 1 Cata this week, but you can get a bonus cata if you hit 2000 M+ rating
we got a full spark in week 0. this week was our catalyst week
Speaking of sparks, it is recommended that the first thing we craft as Fury is a weapon right?
yup
how many casts?
is there a way to check when we got first charge of cata?
even tho its impossible to tell how much the crit dmg is gonna do
i got literally 4 ppl in discord telling me we got cata week 0
and we're getting another cata next week
its easy to tell if we get a full spark next week we wont get a catalyst charge
no it's just you misremembering
What do we use for M+ now? (arms main switching to fury :P)
so no cata next week?
Thane once you get 4 set. Doesnt matter too much before that.
but before 4 set?
thane, and spear, most likely from class tree
Probably still thane. But 2 piece slayer is pretty good
ok thanks.
300%?
is Fury 2 set better than arms 2 sety RN?
yes but i genuinely remember having a cata week 0
And if you are doign raid as fury. Everything except council is slayer as well
No idea. I dont play arms lol
Fury is better than arms
then i can promise that you are misremembering lol
700%
🙏
thanks mate. How big is the delta?
based on Ulria's sheet, 2p2p is a 14% gain for fury and a 12% gain for arms
thanks, but i mean the difference on overall damage for arms and fury on m+
ah shit can't help you there, I just know ST for arms is struggling atm and carrying into M+
sorry mate
Ah thanks mate 🙂 i main m+ 😛
Arms doesn't exist
Simple as
How many crests is it to craft wep btw totally forgot
60
Okay thank you
people have 105 gilded crests
and wowhead says aug 12
I did it
do it > do m2
its still 90
wowhead is correct
i didnt have a charge first week
Gildeds start at +7s right? Im behind on m+ lots of work this week
Your application to +7 has been declined
Done a couple 6s. But only liek 4 runs total so far
Nah guild groups dont decline
And F pugging
Hero track at 6, gildeds at 7, myth vault at 10
i distinctively remember having one
Yeah thats what I remember. I know a lot of people were farming 6s for hero. But might as well do 7s if you can. Though that adds fortified right? Which does up the difficulty a bit
best is to do 10s > highest ilvl hero
otherwise 8 is ur best bet
p sure 8 also gives myth vault
Well yeah. But doign 10s for vault. But not as many people are doing 10s yet
coudl b wrong
Pretty sure its 10s for myth vault
hero ilvl stops at +8. Farm +10 for vault if u can
no it doesnt
a 8 drops 697
a 10 drops 701
how do u think people get to 700 ilvl week 1?
ur right
As long as I get enough gildeds for weapon craft at start of next week should be golden. Can make it up later if I need to. I think ill be doing plenty of runs tonight/tomorrow though
the play with idol is pre-pull cast into everything else, right?
cuz 1s channel
or wait
no
we want the channel to be after we're on mobs
cuz aoe
how much luck u wanna have? all. I farmed the damn flood 30 times no sword drop at all
?
blud
ive been farming a lot
im not saying i havent been lucky
but id rather have 4p
i had to catalyze + no vault tier
ive done 50 keys in less than 2 days
Nice I have been so unlucky with dung loot 15 dungs 3 pieces of loot and none of it useable 😅
Only 701 piece I really need to farm are pants at this point… so close to being done
Ah good old wow
Resil 12s all done, 13s soon, ez clap
bean known lil dawg
nah
gg
loserloserloserloser
jk
linc can u compliment me
well i hadnt had that shi on me til now
im strapped
Is everyone going Slayer for M+ still untill they have 4set?
or should i be in thane before getting 4 set
I’ve been rocking thane as 2p
definitely dont go thane before 4 set
Is it really that bad?
theres also a possibility of not going thane even after 4 set
Fuck
0.o
its not that its bad per se
Just slayers doing better?
I'm proud of you for showing up every day big dog
Slayer 4set OP, you're all missin out
im not even sure i would call it slayer doing better, slayer just brings the more important damage type
Can't help it bro
also
thane sacrifices quite a bit of st
^
Can’t get pieces to drop to cata to get 4p 😅
sop just stay Slayer?? for now?
Works for me I prefer slayer anyways 😅
Time to replace the embellish bro
yep
time to bench the boost
boots
surprising actually
i think ill change wrist to vers maybe? not sure
the embellish i mean
or just writhing after weapon craft
save time
You'll swap to writhing tues
Depends on your team comp; but slayer brings more prio dam and Thane more AoE. Same old same old
american pig
Hey everyone, we are shutting down fury channel, no further questions ty
finally
not related to blizzard or anything, yall just need to touch grass
If I have two stacks of thunderblast, BT up, and 130 fury but i'm still enraged for about 2 seconds
What order of buttons should I be hitting?
TB > BT > Rampage?
ramp tb bt
Really?
yea
thats with 4p
rage dump so no waste
so i'm def not ramping enough
youre at cap you dump rage
I dont think itll happen too often. Bloodthirst has a cd. And tblast has charges. Sure you can string to gether a bunch of them with tier procs. But generally you will have a couple gcds for raging blow and rampage to fill before bloodthirst or tblast come back
IMO if you are at max rage and have 2 charges and bloodthirst up. Then you already missed the last rampage window and are about to not be enraged anyway. So enrage first then send.
I cant see it happening where you just ramapaged and are rage capped and have 2 charges of tblast/bt
I mean you could say i rampaged like 3 gcds ago
Then BT, TB which procced ionizing so i get a 2nd thing of TB again
Its happened ot me in this m+
Just wondering what the idea is bc I notice i'm castinng rampage much less with the 4p set
Ok Then you have 1 charge and BT is on cd. So you TBlast Raging blow rampage then BT again

Idk what else to say other than i've been at that exact moment and wondering what the play is
🤷♂️
Are we getting next catalyst point next week or the one after?
With tblast and bloodthirst being more priority than rampage. Then I would just let rage cap. Sure you are wasting rage. But if you are not losing enrage, and are using higher damage abilities then it doesnt really matter.
If you lose enrage cause of it then you messed up.
yeah ofc
thats why i was wondering
if my enrage is still fine should i just be sitting at 130 rage for like
2 gcds
do you have anger managment?
Some arguement there for spending the rage regardless for cdr ravager/reck
yes
Not this coming week, the one after
then spending rage is yours prio no 1
Thank you ❤️
Yeah the cdr can make just spending worth it. Cause you have higher uptime on reck/ravager
This next reset is our second full spark
Generally with Simmingi just leave it as the default setting on raid bots wasn't sure if this was the most accurate for checking gear for say m+
sim is recommending i break 4p with just ilvl upgrades 😭
Revvez on DPS warr in mythic if anyone wants to see
link?
dope
<@&257983573498265600>
I always macro it w roar cuz I'm lazy as either
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The diff between sending roar right off the rip or waiting for the "priority" in 5-6 GCDs is so miniscule I'd rather just remove thinking about it
waho
/use Recklessness
/use Avatar
/castsequence [@player] Ravager, Thunderous Roar```
demonic macro
Close the channel until we're target capped to 8
Erm actually +10 dont give in

True double digits
NGL we would be fuckin busted rn with 8 t cap
Hopefully we get the sweet 12.0 rework
To fix our specs
Nope just remove tier sets. And be happy you have a house
i hope warrior gets some positive development
what castsequence do
sends both if you keep pressing
Personally I keep rav/bs on its own button
And just pop roar into reck/ava
thing is aint u supposed to reck ava pre charge
so my roar would technically go to waste yk
I have ravager on reck. Cause they have the same cd
I'm going vintage venthyr house
When simming for m+ is patchwerk the best setting>
Just press your ava/reck button, if reck is off CD it sends
And have a separate reck button for fight start/the odd time you wanna hold ava but send it
Don't sim for M+, sim ST, use your brain for trinkets
We do our ST into a prio target to AOE
So the Patchwerk setting is the one to use?
wat
why not
you only get enough rage to rampage if you reck charge ava
M+ is life linc
Wtf
Add in racial and trinkets and weapon ability and tempered pot if you want to be really demonic
u mean ava reck charge
I have everything just about macro’d to reck but temp pots but keep separate keybinds for doesn’t line up
is reck bug still a thing
do we have to press ava first
doubt
Yeah we still don't sim dungeon slice XDDD
Also hai Jevvvvy
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ppkULYrdMQRBsZoayur2tG Seem to be simming fairly low any advice is welcome
Anyone done the deathless hard mode yet and can advise if it feels like a 10?
I didnt show it all but it has ancestral call and potion
ilvl 690, only 1 current season weapon, no 4set
sending myth crests on a slot you probably want to craft this reset is certainly something
truth
isnt the alternative aoe stormbolt
you dont really want that it drs future stuns without much benefit
also gives it +10s CD
so pick neither?
all around awful
you're forced to pick one, so you pick the one that doesnt do anything
prot does the same
also hack and slash useless?
if we got 4p thane
rather take ferocity over that no?
yeah pretty much
More of an issue for organized groups right? I feel like it catches a lot of free cc/inturrupts cause while I cant pick the bonus target it can hit one of the casters that my random other pugs are not kicking.
You don’t prio RB so yeah
Though being focused one my targets with 10 sec less cd is good
And this is correct, the MT Storm Bolts talent isn’t great but calling it a loss is very questionable
Extremely rare that you’re throwing SB on CD anyway, but if you don’t like it, don’t take it 
Cause Rally sucks
really
increasing the CD by 33% for no quantifiable gain sounds like a loss to me 🤷♂️
did not expect that
Even in raid, it’s only good when layered with other defensives
And in m+ you don’t have a bunch of extra player abilities to layer it with
It’s a little feels bad this week to watch someone barely rot out when rally may have made the difference though lol
So as a stand-alone ability, the likelihood of Rally having any difference on your ability to survive something is extremely minimal
And more likely that controlling incoming damage better with something like Rumbling, or healing more with Second Wind, would help you survive
Warriors should practically never die to rot dam, rally wasn’t the diff there
Fuck rally amen
Rally actually did save our lock on dimensius but he was greeding his defensives anyways and relying on externals smh
is being enraged not necessary for roar?
Rally isn’t even good vs rot dam anyway, 10% hp is nothing against a constant source of damage - it’s to mitigate big bursts (though still a small)
I dont think Ive ever used rally for myself. Generally pop it when I notice the tank hovering between 0-20% and hope that helps with some % healing. Its really bad
The roar initial hit does very little damage, and the dot updates with enrage in realtime, so gaining enrage after applying the dot is fine
The initial hit does fuck all, so not technically, no
Outside raid at least. In raid I use it when im told
Same with Ravager, it doesn’t start dealing damage immediately
So you can throw it and then enrage
You generally don’t want to throw Rav from a distance; since its duration starts immediately, it’s easy to lose a tick that way
I suggest just using an @ player macro to auto drop it at your feet
Yeah I auto drop mine. I place it for prot still. Or I did before they got the passive version. I love that thing
Slayer feels so much better than thane in keys
Holy brew cranking
Slayer feels great in general
Thane feels insane when you high roll though
I did like 10m on ecodome first boss bc I could not stop proccing (as thane)
nerf fury
Insert squidward meme of me watchign all the 4 piece warriors have fun
Just be your guild's only warrior so they have to spoonfeed you gear
Got 3 on my team. And we only got 1 tier drop this week.
literally exactly same
3 warrs
like 2 zenith drops
on both splits
were 3 warrs, 2 evos, 2 monks and 1 rogue
🙂
or 3 evos im not sure
we're 9 zeniths
Thane is better overall dam, Slayer just has real nice bossing
I dont run mythic anymore so no splits for me. Im pretty casual so it isnt a big deal. Ill get there.
If anything Id be a helper in a split getting paid lol
how much more dmg are we talking
is it significant
Yeah, esp on higher target counts
It’s at least 10% higher, if you’re in a heavy pull key then very likely more
That's without roar caps as slayer tho
But slayer boss dam is much higher
So what actually makes the key faster is up in the air
Now how much higher is slayer on ST.
How much trolling am I doing by camping thane in raid
Slayer ~10% ahead on st
I feel like Slayer would be perfect in M+ if it picked OF and OF actually did great aoe damage
slayer is for sure the play in streets
I'll take uncapped aoe over even 20% st damage lol
u think so?
You can take OF, but it doesn’t really change the dichotomy
I run OF as Slayer atm
Yeah because streets is a little target capped in terms
of packs
Play what you enjoy amen
and also 5 bosses
I am playing disc priest
Banned
this too
Thane in raid is pretty mid, there just isn’t anything useful about it since MT is so limited - only Soul Hunter and maybe Forgeweavr does it have a place
I think thane on forgeweaver is an insane grief if you're progging
Useless pad dam that steals other classes' funnel onto boss
That’s why I said maybe
Yeah I dont actually mind it. I like playing both specs and like that they have different uses.
Thane is probably better overall on forgeweaver if you're not progging, but at that point idk if the adds even live long enough for you to pad on them
We'll see how mythic goes tho
"overall" in the overall dps sense
Could depend on your comp makeup too, I’m not arguing about it, just saying that it’s the only other fight with enough potential add uptime for Thane to have a potential purpose
Archi were you dropping crit or haste for roar caps as OF slayer?
Yeah nobody ever thinks critically about how their damage profile fits into the broader group comp though 
W/ 2p I was dropping Swift Strikes, with 4p I’d drop Deft (much as I like having it)
I have a lot of people that do pretty good ST and struggle to swap to adds quickly. So when I can blast the adds it can help
Stix was rough with no one killing crabs
arakara trincket bis trincket now
?
Ye adds lived to long for us
i did the cardinal sin for this patch warrior ro hunter
walhe big cluegi
that its 16
doesnt remember updating his own shit
and not 12
maybe us warriors need to cry like the ret paladins do 🤔
no, but it's still one of the better dungeon trinkets
not idol?
Your still gonna want an idol
whys that
It's an on use trinket good for burst AOE when needed
@edgy widget opinion

REBUFF SAC!
gg
on what trinkets?
Idol is much better now that they buffed it back up a bit, I'm not sure I'd call it bis though
you're not getting Mythic Screams anytime soon either though
heroic screams
so is it better than HC scream

is basicly what we wanna know
Scream is an odd trinket, it can end up wasting a lot of damage on overkill
Like signet from amidrassil
well the on death effect kinda compensates
but again, if things are dying at the same time, a lot of that dam can get wasted
so it's just an odd trinket - potentially powerful in some situations, less powerful in others
More of a reason to pad on the smallies first
so its inconsistent
If it's m+ no need to think to hard send one on use and one passive
the performance may be inconsistent yes
Idol + whatever
but people are using it in keys right now and it's still doing 4-6% of their damage, which is not bad at all
most direct dam trinkets are usually closer to 2-3%
holy dimensius heroic is so movement intensive
Seaforium is good, but it sims better than it works in practice
in a stable 5 minute 5 target sim, yeah
since you're not always fighting on a 60s cadence
the benefit of on use trinket over passive trinkets is that you can choose to have damage when you need it
you also don't need to keep pinging people asking about every trinket and whether it's BiS or not - BiS doesn't mean a damn thing when you don't actually have all of those items available to you 
@edgy widget Is my trinket bis?
no but my hammer is 
Ow no 🙁

Like I said on use is great for burst passive is good all around and longer combat times usually. You want an idol for the most part if your doing m+
Please dont ban me, how else will i ping people to ask about trinkets 🙁
It's like house of cards just Crit not mastery
Archi do you know if anything changed simc-side with CSI? Droptimizer is now saying it's a big uppie for me (+0.9%) when it was -0.3% before
its like puzzle box
CSI?
idol
do you guys know if t11 quest still ignores crest cap
or has it already been fixed
From what I've heard yes it does
fixed or ignores?
it ignores
Ignores
mashallah
also just go fuckin do it and find out lol
true
Do we get the second spark Tuesday for our 2 handers or just a fragment?
I mean... how big is the impact? For RWF it might make a small difference, but I can imagine 20 people with 2 extra upgrades vs. 20 characters that don't can be big.
you have 3 fragments rn and 4th next reset (2nd full spark)
damn they got the trinket from spoder boss
i hope liquid loses
i hope the last 2 bosses are fun
i feel like they will both be aids as fuck
anyone got tips on the worst boss of the season so far: getting accepted into pug keys?
Q as arms
Sarcastic or not?
Run your own key
my own key has been depleted to hell sadly
Are you guys also getting shifted towards haste/versa from sims?
ITs asking me to go hard for it rn on rings, gems, enchants etc
Anyone know if the "Screams of the Forgotten Sky" Trinket is any good in M+?
Yes sims are pushing me into vers
Pretty good
I've been enjoying it
It's ok tbh just feels behind in giga pulls vs other classes
it's almost like we're capped at 5 targets for most spells
Like priory 2nd boss
It’ll even out with the rest of the key
Play kerning on a loop
No need for sarcasm friend

Which hero tree you playing
You have 4p?
Oh right critcake mentioned that
2p slayer is pretty good
Is there a build posted somewhere
wowhead as usual
Some take OF
has m+ slurry
And ya wowhead has like a traditional aoe setup
The wowhead slayer works?
ofc
Ill try it out
Wowhead has opportunist? Idr
nerf incoming its over 
he's a dev in disguise
ive doomed us..
I MADE SURE TO TELL EM ITS ALL SINGLE TARGET WE'RE GOOD DO NOT CLOSE DA CHANNELS

show
that dk has not seen many good warriors ig
the second boss i just line bladestorm with the ads
don't even have to line it, it just does it by itself xd
yeh felt like i didnt do that insane
Dawn overalls are weird because of rash
Idk I've been keeping up with the frosts and unholys in my keys
tend to hover around 5.9-6.1m overall without 4p
(I just want 4p pleaaaase)
Yeah me too, still trying to find a hero track shoulder or leg
how can we sim M+? not sure what trinket to choose between the two
only running 2+2 rn next week we get 4p thane stonk ⬆️
me and critcake just do a ST sim in our m+ build, then a 5t 90s sim to see if there's any huge disparity between gear, and make a choice for what you want more
but also maybe depends on key comps i might still run slayer with 4p in some keys
the boss dmg is crazy
slayer definitely has a place in m+ given how overwhelmingly stupid assa for instance is on aoe
while also being negative on ST
real
having that extra prio damage is great
time for nexus king and dimensius hc splits
prayge for maw
why do we want maw
free hero weapon
Free upgrade yep
at 6/6
it's more relevant for arms
simming myself tells me to put quick onyx in every socket, do I do tht or stick to what wowhead says with culminating blasphemite, quick onyx and 1 of each other the other 3?
follow your sim
better stats
ty
oh i meant the free upgrade
click the box to allow multiple gem combo
oh no I just mean the weapon given its stats are more sided with what arms want
but regardless you want it because it's a free 6/6 hero wep
Only max colors
ohhhh ok thank you I didn't realize that was a thing
Won’t crafting a 2 hander on Tuesday let you upgrade a hero weapon to max for free?
it would as well yes

