#fury

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flat river
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ok

echo rapids
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I’d wait for next week vault at least

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Feel bad to get tier hands

fringe scroll
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Boys i am an Arms refugee and i need some help. What is the difference numbers wise between MT and slayer for M+? I am playing both and it feels like slayer only loses 200k on AOE and gains up to 500k more for bosses.

signal steeple
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Looks like 400k to me

fringe scroll
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yes

olive wraith
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Thane should be higher on aoe I think. Is that a sim

fringe scroll
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nah, just a feel, i could be wrong that is why i ask. But i don't feel substantially stronger in 10+ targets in 10-11 than i do on slayer, so i was wondering if it even mattered.

sour frigate
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Its season start play for vibes wicked

bold bear
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If I can cata 2 hero pieces to get 4p should I? My guild has 2 more raid nights this week, 2/8 H currently

ionic ermine
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Yolo

warm crag
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if you think it will siginficantly help you clear hc, especially bosses you couldnt kill without 4p, sure

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otherwise hold for vault

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you should probably just send it though

tawdry cradle
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Anyone know where we can find a bis list for fury?

rich veldt
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Do i send 2 catalyst charges on 2x tier champion track for 4set?

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Cant seem to get any hero gear

olive wraith
olive wraith
rich veldt
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Hmmmmm

gilded pawn
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unless you NEED to parse

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also can just get some heroic track gear from dungs

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and catlayst that

rich veldt
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Hah kept trying that

bronze badge
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for new tier do we always use rampage over 115 or jsut to refresh?

rich veldt
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I’ll see in a few dungs then

sand crest
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10 ecodome, thane with 4set feels pretty gud

idle oriole
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I am gonna keep it real

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I was super underwhelmed by MT 4piece. It feels like such a mess to play half the time

dense elbow
void garnet
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With 4pc in raid are we now just sending sudden death procs? Or still using WA?

bronze badge
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wa updated i believe

dense elbow
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I just send, ya can't stop me

void garnet
bronze badge
void garnet
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Ty brother

olive wraith
iron snow
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guys, do you have to finish the 11.2 Storyline unlock the raid, I have the cloak just not done the latest quests

olive wraith
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Nope just need the cloak

flat river
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can you guys remind me

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which bosses are MT and which are ST

olive wraith
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!remind gala

flat river
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xd

iron snow
dense elbow
flat river
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yes but which ones are which

olive wraith
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Uh first boss is st, loom is st

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Third boss aoe

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4 boss aoe

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Dh boss aoe, fractus st

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Then last 2 have aoe

flat river
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oki

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ty

olive wraith
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I think

flat river
undone flower
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Yes it seems correct

olive wraith
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I’ve only cleared normal so that’s just from what I remember

flat river
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good to know

olive wraith
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Oh lmao it’s there

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Also, I think wrecking throw might be worth on first boss

flat river
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don't tempt me

olive wraith
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Do it, parse 100 and lmk

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Share log and let’s see how good it was

flat river
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🤨

olive wraith
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I’ll probably try to pug heroic today

vagrant thistle
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.

olive wraith
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Agreed ritchy

real pond
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Didn’t realize we shouldn’t use catalyst for 2p and sent it on some hero shoulders. How cooked am I? Still have the 2k IO catalyst

olive wraith
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I mean. You’re not cooked

rain cloud
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when do we use BT with the 4p set?¿

olive wraith
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You just might get cucked on vault

olive wraith
rain cloud
olive wraith
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Almost never

flat river
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last resort

olive wraith
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It’s a global if you have nothing else to press

rain cloud
rain cloud
olive wraith
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6t+

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It takes prio over rb

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More reaps>20% chance of big reap

rain cloud
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good, and m+ mountain is still the same like season 2 right?¿

olive wraith
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Thane prios bt over rb

rain cloud
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nice, thanks man ❤️

fleet pulsar
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In mm+ we take spear really?..

olive wraith
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You can

fleet pulsar
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Shitty spell

olive wraith
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It’s numerically slightly ahead

fleet pulsar
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Rly

olive wraith
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Roar isn’t that far off though

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So take whichever (they both suck)

fleet pulsar
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Make condenm great again

olive wraith
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I’d prefer we just had good Of again

dense sedge
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With pre potting as fury so we take it as we charge

fleet pulsar
digital crown
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is every m+ fury going slayer now?

pine gust
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But not much of a difference

desert atlas
pine gust
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True

desert atlas
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pre 4pc

drifting bolt
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I feel like trash with no tier set on M+

pine gust
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But unless it's streets it's no big deal

earnest canyon
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Anyone else not having links work on Wowhead with Firefox all of a sudden?

winter shoal
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Is it saying request header too large?

dry ruin
drifting bolt
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Do you think it would be the best option to play arms until i get 4p?

dry ruin
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well tbh i was playing arms until today and i've seen the difference switching to fury even with 0p, not that much yet but still

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and i'm playing thane not slayer atm

olive wraith
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The st feels solid in keys

fallen solstice
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So with 2 set Slayer we are playing more BT talents in aoe but then more ragingblow/crit nodes in ST? For example for Forgeweaver taking fierce followthrough and vicious contempt instead of opportunist/critical thinking/unbridled? or is that more for better execute window for that boss rather than an aoe/ST choice

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i had a good pull on that boss but I'm seeing a lot more fierce followthrough over opportunist and I normally play tank so it's hard for me to understand why

gaunt loom
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nerf warlock

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2set warlock too strong

earnest canyon
radiant plank
earnest canyon
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weird it was Tamper monkey addon

olive wraith
sullen rune
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streets dungeon is awful in every conceivable way

sullen dove
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true

fallen solstice
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both ST and aoe

runic violet
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god damn I hate attempting dimensious all fucking day.

olive wraith
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St yes

runic violet
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ppl don't know shit

olive wraith
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Aoe bt takes prio in 6t+

olive wraith
earnest canyon
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whats this fractilus weak aura? what packs are people using? ive only done lfr so far, but now it get serious (normal)

olive wraith
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It didn’t seem hard on normal to just look for 3 stacks of wall

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Idk if it gets worse on harder difficulty

digital crown
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is the slayer m+ talents the ones on wowhead?

winter shoal
feral tinsel
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Hello, I want to use Unhinged Tracker for Fury but it doens't load ingame. Any reason ?

fallen solstice
mortal fulcrum
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Is there any information about how far single minded fury is behind titan's grip? 😄

olive wraith
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For thane bt prio over rb always (4p)

fallen solstice
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You're my hero, thank you

olive wraith
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Lurk around here long enough you learn a thing or two

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I just regurgitate what I see

desert zodiac
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do we switch to thane at 2p or 4p for m+

unreal snow
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Lurker here, thank you all for being kind and informative, sloppy for all of you

olive wraith
runic violet
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damn.. beat dimensious... finally 😢

fickle cedar
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how much catalyst charges are we supposed to have (with the 2k thing included) 2 or 3 ?

wintry hatch
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2 i think

olive wraith
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ye 2

fickle cedar
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oki, thought i used one or something since it says 2/3

wintry hatch
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id use 1 for 2set then save the other for vauly

olive wraith
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no dont use for 2p

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just hold for next week

flat river
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on DH boss

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should i play slayer or thane

olive wraith
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idr did you have 4p

flat river
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2-set

olive wraith
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people say thane is pretty big with 4

flat river
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2-set im guessing slayer right?

olive wraith
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uh maybe slayer then

flat river
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yeah

steep fable
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(4-set m+) Where do you put the 3 champion spear points if you run roar? Cruel strikes x2 and rally? Or uproar, TW and a cruel strikes/rally?

sullen dove
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should like always have rally no

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but yea cruel strikes as far as capstones go usually

steep fable
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yeah, rally is another reason I am not running the wowhead m+ build....I live the PUG life

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and I will probably almost never get to hit "good" champ spears in keys

sullen dove
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I mean I think so long as you have 1 tb charge going into it its about as good as it gets

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like bank a tb have spear and avatar up, spear > tb wait to see if you get a tb reset (like half a second or so) if you do hit it again if you don’t then Ava and hit it again

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can potentially get like 2 or more giga tbs + 2 normal tbs if obscenely lucky but worst case is still 2 maybe 3 normal tbs which shouldn’t be that bad

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Be enraged before all this also ofc

quiet breach
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its not worth to spend gilded on a hero track wep right?

sullen dove
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like ramp before hitting spear

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absolutely not

steep fable
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craft

sullen dove
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just about everyone should craft a weapon next week

quiet breach
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yeah i figured

hardy vault
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How do u make difference between 2 execution conditions with the WA ?

gilded pawn
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this should all be included in the weakaura

hardy vault
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yeah but, when the target is below 20% and the WA trigger, can be priority 6. instead of 9 no ? When 2 stack of sudden deaths

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how do u manage this ?

digital mauve
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personnally I just send the exec when it glows up

hardy vault
gilded pawn
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theres a whole reason why we have everything here

marble pilot
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There is a not saying it is a minimal dps loss to just send it. But I dont know what that minimal loss number is. I have heard 2% but also heard lower

gilded pawn
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just press it when WA lights up

gilded pawn
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considering how little damage execute does

vale geode
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I have 2 onehanders that are much better than the twohanders, is single minded fury an option ? or no ?

hollow leaf
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thane feels pretty good for araz

olive wraith
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Don’t ads just die in a second

digital mauve
hardy vault
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115*

marble pilot
# gilded pawn anything over 1% is a lot

I agree. But if you make up that 1% with better uptime or mechanics or whatever cause you are not thinking about rotation as much it could be better for that person.
Obviously best to learn to do it correctly and keep uptime but it doesnt always work that way.
If it was super important then it wouldnt have a note. But thats a different topic.

digital mauve
gilded pawn
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just blindly follow the weakaura

hollow leaf
gilded pawn
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its so much easier

hollow leaf
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at least in splits

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when we're running 30 man

digital mauve
gilded pawn
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the sudden death weakaura that we've been using since start of the expac

olive wraith
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The sd conditions one

marble pilot
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Nice that we can ditch the bloodthirst one

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And thane gets rid of both

olive wraith
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Only after 4p

marble pilot
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Well yeah.

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Some people are already there though. And a lot more will be next week.

steep fable
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Holy hell the 4pc is gonna be nice for m+...just now trying it out. Now I need to stop filling with RB....my brain is so programmed

marble pilot
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Yeah im excited for it. I didnt play with in on ptr

digital mauve
forest owl
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is fury f good this tier? or not so f good?

marble pilot
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Almost wanna swap the bt and rb keybinds for Thane lol. So used to spamming rb

olive wraith
digital mauve
olive wraith
gilded pawn
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well not rotational ones

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peep my name for why

digital mauve
olive wraith
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Positive

digital mauve
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cuz in this weakaura the exec icon just swap to sudden death when it's up

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okok

olive wraith
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Do you hear a kaching sound

digital mauve
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Only a sound for BT crit if I remember correctly

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But I rely more on visual cue than audio

wintry hatch
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i have 2st/2st and thane imo is way better than slayer lol

digital mauve
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@olive wraith Okey I think it does include it in the package

digital mauve
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look

wintry hatch
digital mauve
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Left side the wa track for exec I took from here and the middle the luxthos wa

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they glow at the same time?

real pond
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Luxthos just tracks sudden death, its stacks and duration

olive wraith
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^

real pond
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It doesn’t account for any Mfa stacks

digital mauve
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well they both glow at the exact same times on 10+ tries

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And I'm suppsoe to press it when it glows

real pond
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I also use luxthos and I don’t have that happening

digital mauve
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maybe he updated it

real pond
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My kaching and my luxthos light up separately

gilded pawn
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also you should show MFE on the boss

digital mauve
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Also we don't need the BT tracker anymore?

real pond
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To be honest I do find the WA a bit clunky. It will activate even if execute is still on CD, and I’m used to just mashing the execute button when I hear the sound so it was throwing me off lol

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I modified it to only trigger if execute is usable and that’s helped

real pond
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Just go into the triggers in the WA addon in game and play around with them, then add any removed or added triggers to the order of the return function that has a t[n] format

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It’s all in the addon and is pretty easy to navigate

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Not at home right now so can’t share the WA

quiet breach
sullen dove
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aint no way

desert atlas
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lol

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how many procs this boss u reckon

chilly fractal
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42

desert atlas
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actually was 42 thunder blasts

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how u know that

kind bolt
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is there any macro for all possible berserk shouts available? cuz they dont automatically replace the existing one?

chilly fractal
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Because it’s the answer

desert atlas
desert atlas
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lmaoo

feral ivy
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how do u get delve map again?

olive wraith
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Killing nemesis in delve

quiet breach
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can't get hero track from delve map without r2

hoary canopy
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Do we have to change talent for 2p-2p ?

quiet breach
hoary canopy
quiet breach
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wit 2 pc

hoary canopy
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no bloodthirst in execute phase since no vicious contempt ?

quiet breach
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BT is a full on filler now

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or survival tool with enraged regen

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can remove bt crit tracker

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execute has much higher prio

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look at wowhead rotation section for exact

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thane u can keep bt crit tracker until 4 pc

hoary canopy
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right

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thank you

olive wraith
quiet breach
# hoary canopy thank you

ohh yeah the 4 PC is the giga raging blow buff that makes BT irrelevant, ig keep the BT tracker for now

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idk wowhead doesn't have a 2pc specific rotation

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I know it makes execute higher prio tho

hoary canopy
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hmm ok

distant zenith
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Has anyone figured out why Salhadaar boss randomly meelee slaps a dps

cursive stump
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Do we not press bloodthirst this patch in ST?

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It's so far down in wowhead's prio list

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Almost sketchily low

spare steppe
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Nope that’s accurate, it’s down bad

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It’s solely to fill when you need rage and don’t have other buttons to push

cursive stump
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Sweet, another keybind freed up for toys with no cd

olive wraith
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You press it if you can’t press anything else

digital mauve
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Is there a macro to kick or stun directly when we hover nameplates rather than the enemyes itself? I already got the hover on enemy one

spare steppe
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@ mouseover

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You can structure it as /cast [@ mouseover, exists][] so if you aren’t mouseovering, it’ll go to the next condition which is your target

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You can add in other conditionals like if you want to [@ focus,exists] for priority kick/stun targets

digital mauve
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#showtooltip Pummel
/cast [@mouseover, harm, nodead][harm,nodead] Pummel

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the macro I have

dense fulcrum
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idk guys im doing pmuch same stuff i was doing s2 ( cuz no set still) but my dmg in raid feels so bad...i was always top 3 before xD u guys having issue too with dmg?

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im speaking about raid

woven valley
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I mean new set is big for almost everyone

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So without it you won’t be keeping up

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It’s week 1

dense fulcrum
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ye but like at the pull im 18° in details wtf

woven valley
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Gear and tier will fix the issues you have atm

dense fulcrum
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i was always top 3 in my raid

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and literally doing the same rotation i was doing 1 week ago or 2

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cuz i dont have set or anything still

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how its possible xD

woven valley
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Class changes, tuning and mplus champ and hero gear

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Like me and the other warrior in my group are bottom 1/3 atm but that will change once we get 4 piece of full hero gear

lapis shadow
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Insta charged one of the adds on Loomithar and got behind the shit and died

signal steeple
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Same thing happened to me nevada. I think we need 4-piece to perform well this tier

remote haven
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got unexpectedly fast 4set does fury slayer rotation change with 4set in raid? 😄

cunning igloo
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Can’t wait to get home and slam I got my 4 pc last night

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Tunder blast tunder blast tunder blast

dense fulcrum
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are u guys doing roar later in the openr?

undone flower
woven valley
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Never again

lapis shadow
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Yep

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Just spamming boss now

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Gg

fleet wave
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Ok so would you guys catalyst 2 heroic pieces to rush 2 set, or just hold until tuesday to see vault? not sure how strong the 2pc is for raiding

modest condor
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hold to finish 4set

uneven path
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Just drop the 2p

modest condor
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unless you're planning to clear the raid before next week there's no point in rushing

woven valley
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I used one cata on getting 2 piece and I’m saving second cata to get 4

obtuse karma
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Dont we only have 1 cata charge tho

woven valley
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So I could get more damage for mplus this week

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You get another for 2k rating

obtuse karma
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Oh wtf

fickle jewel
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So are we dead in m+?

obtuse karma
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pre 4pc ye

young swan
fallen ginkgo
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guys quick question, is the cata charge from 2k io only for the char that has 2k io? or do i get an extra charge on all characters

young swan
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doin fine rn

steep fable
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4pc is a crazy power spike, legit

fallen ginkgo
undone flower
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i'm eating crazy

pastel geyser
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Sheeeeeesh

real pond
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Is there any way to access a simc output with BIS gear?

steep fable
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so with slayer we basically ignore t-roar unless we run out of buttons? lawl (new 4pc)

cobalt relic
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how do I acquire a chestpiece so I can cata that man

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ffs

olive wraith
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Keys

storm birch
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4p is lovely on plexus

obtuse karma
storm birch
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yea

olive wraith
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How much did wrecking throw do

storm birch
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2.6%

steep fable
storm birch
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40mil

steep fable
storm birch
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I kept forgetting what bind i put it on

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and then did a goofy unenraged bladestorm so

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dmg coulda been better lmao

cobalt relic
storm birch
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wym

cobalt relic
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u said 30mil

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I assume u mean that

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40mil*

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gold yk

storm birch
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xD

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Wish i was that rich D:

cobalt relic
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@storm birch did u do heroix 4p

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heroic

storm birch
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I got a piece in vault piece in norm 2 piece from catalyst

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cause 2k io

cobalt relic
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so norm one is champion?

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or veteran

storm birch
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champ chest piece yea

cobalt relic
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is it worth

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doing one or should I wait for heroic

storm birch
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do you have 2p 2p ?

cobalt relic
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cuz I can get champ lvl chest piece

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I have 2p alrdy

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3p*

storm birch
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just wait imo

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that's a big part of the dmg upgrade

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see if you get loot

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then decide from there

cobalt relic
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i got 3p new tho

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one is helmet tho

storm birch
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i got helm too. You don't gotta follow bis list to a T this early. 4p is just strong af

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but you can if you want of

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ofc*

cobalt relic
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would u cata champion piece?

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for 4p

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or wait till wed

obtuse karma
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i would so i can start farming a full vault of 10s before reset

cobalt relic
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i got that sorted alrdy

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without 4p

obtuse karma
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then its not worth it xd

cobalt relic
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I mythic raid on monday tho

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prolly

obtuse karma
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ask ur rl

cobalt relic
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aighty

quiet breach
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u can infinitely farm hero pieces from m+

cobalt relic
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I legit tried no luck

quiet breach
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keep trying

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u said u dont raid till monday

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why u care

cobalt relic
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getting used to rota cuz I have been underperforming

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got pressure gg

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also do we craft belt 3rd?

bitter palm
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just spam rb and never press bt

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thats the 4p rota

cobalt relic
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exe>rb right

bitter palm
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in aoe u bt over rb at 6 or more targets

bitter palm
cobalt relic
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does it have to be >1 on marks and SD to prio exe

bitter palm
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for brutal finish u spam rb for slaughtering strikes

bitter palm
cobalt relic
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after BS yes I got that

bitter palm
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or aj falling off or 2 sd

bitter palm
cobalt relic
bitter palm
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its like sd falling off or aj falling off or 2 sd or more than 1 mfe

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in execute its 1 or more mfe

cobalt relic
eternal compass
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guys is there any new sd WA or we use the same old one?

bitter palm
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less than 1% loss

bitter palm
cobalt relic
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where u exe

desert atlas
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its a good day to be r1 on frostmourne boys

signal steeple
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Gaming

cobalt relic
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@desert atlas 4p?

desert atlas
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ofc

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4p and phys comp

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brew/rsham/feral/law/fury

cobalt relic
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champ lvl track?

desert atlas
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2 pcs champ

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2 hero

bitter palm
cobalt relic
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kk

desert atlas
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and thats cause i was fucking lazy and did like

bitter palm
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1 mfe is with sd outside of exe

desert atlas
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6 ara kara and no hero gloves/shoulders

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so i just cata champ bc idk 4 set was a 400k dps increase

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cbf

real pond
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I'm experimenting with some sims, completely removing option 9 from the APL has an extremely minimal DPS loss (0.1%). Feels like it would be more effective to just remove that condition from the SD WA, because the second execute phase hits that WA is triggering every second and it's quite annoying

cobalt relic
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of mfe

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so basically rb only after BS then

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cuz u proc that almost always

bitter palm
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ye 1 or more which is any

cobalt relic
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ok got ot

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it

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rb only after BS and bt only if >6 targets

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and u let rage overcap after bs right till u run out of rb charges?@bitter palm

bitter palm
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ye

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or u run out of enrage

cobalt relic
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aighty

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I have been doing this with 3p

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thus why my dps was lowest in raid haha

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gg!

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old slayer talent

covert void
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we dont get a cata next week do we? its week after now?

echo rapids
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Yeah next week is the full spark

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Each week we either get the second half of a spark or a cata charge

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It got off sync last season because they gave everyone another half spark due to the exploits

covert void
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ah yeh ofc

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thanks btw

runic violet
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anyone saving up for weapon craft?

stark lantern
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Heya couple of questions for M+ / Crafting.

Im looking at the WoWhead M+ Fury Mountain Thane build:

Whats the reasoning behind taking out thunderous roar and the 2 passives and putting it into champion spear + 2 passives?

Moving Hack and Slash to Unbridled Ferocity?

And lastly, assuming we have 60 gilded for next week, craft 720 2h?

desert atlas
covert void
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So yeh, pre new tier we are absolutely trash as fury slayer. you guys switching to thane with 2 piece or just waiting till full 4 and sticking it out?

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for m+

dim lynx
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what is the ideal rotation with 4 set?

bitter palm
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until 4 but even then

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u can play slayer

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slayer has insane st

covert void
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feels so bad im tempted to use 2 cata on hero pieces to get 4 piece, even though it means no cata as bad luck protection next week on myth tier.

stark lantern
bitter palm
desert atlas
olive wraith
covert void
olive wraith
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Yes

covert void
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lol

olive wraith
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It’s no thane 4p

desert atlas
olive wraith
#

But it’s not that bad

desert atlas
#

otherwise just play Slayer

desert atlas
#

@covert void slayer is neat as in m+ before 4 set thane

bitter palm
olive wraith
#

Agreed

covert void
olive wraith
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Thane still has good st though

covert void
#

but maybe its just me

olive wraith
#

You don’t have any new tier?

desert atlas
#

there are factors that might make it not as great

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if you're not playing around sudden death/mfd properly

desert atlas
#

ur cdr on bladestorm kinda relies on it

bitter palm
#

or new 2p

desert atlas
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it gets a bit better with 2p bc flat execute dmg

covert void
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and thats why i was curious if new 2pc is a big upgrade, and do you go thane with just 2pc

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probably?

desert atlas
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i didn't

bitter palm
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thane is with 4p

desert atlas
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ionizing strikes is a lot of boss damage but, slayer boss dmg is still better

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so there isn't really a reason to swap at 2pc

bitter palm
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all ur damage is the 4p

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in aoe

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for thane

covert void
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I'm tempted to just throw my 2 catas at it, and yolo next week. Pray I get something that doesnt need it.

bitter palm
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keep in mind we are tuned around new s3 tier so not using it will feel bad

desert atlas
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i put my catas into hero/champ track bc im lazy

bitter palm
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especially when we are used to having shit tiersets

covert void
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I know you shouldnt but yeh, really finding it to be pretty bad personally

desert atlas
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and i wanted the 400k dps increase right then

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considering the turbo boost has been confirmed

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for .5 patch

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it literally won't matter

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unless ur RWF

covert void
desert atlas
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sure u might kick urself in the nuts if u get a myth track in the vault

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and nocata

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but

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its w/e

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6 ara kara in a row with no hero gloves/shoulders was enough to push me over the edge and cata champ gear

covert void
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i mean, myth weap, tier or trinket you're laughing.

Get non tier myth plate will just be behind a week I guess.

covert void
desert atlas
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if you will have more fun playing thane 4p

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do it

olive wraith
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Slayer has less aoe

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But your prio/st is so good

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I’m only really getting gapped by mm. And a 4p Evoker slaughtered me in an 8

south kayak
lapis shadow
junior gale
olive wraith
real pond
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Hello gamers,

I modified the SD WA to have some QOL changes if anyone is interested:

  • **Kaching only happens if execute is actually usable. **
    • The previous version would trigger when execute was still on CD, and I just wanna smash the button the second I hear the sound
  • Removed the following condition from the WA: Execute while the target is below 20% and any number of Marked for Execution stacks
    • I thought this was weird to include in this WA, because it's a separate priority than what the original "kaching" tracked
    • Not doing this is less than a 0.1% DPS loss
    • There was an unnecessary amount of "kachings" in the execute phase
  • If ashen juggernaut is going to expire, there are no SD stacks, but the boss is <= 20% HP, it will now kaching anyways to remind you to renew the ashen juggernaut stacks
  • Changed trigger from <3s to <4s, to give more grace time to refresh the stacks

Here's the link if anyone is interested: https://wago.io/v8fGQcaxd

Wago.io is a database of sharable World of Warcraft addon elements

sullen dove
mossy stag
#

how troll would it be for me to play single minded fury

earnest canyon
#

It's your sub, play what you like

mossy stag
#

hawt

olive wraith
#

Smf is probably closer this season

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Than the rest of the expac

bronze badge
#

For heroic araz + SH is the warpclaw / stone idol any good? or just run pacemaker +secret tech

patent escarp
#

How does the 4 Piece change out Playstyle in Raid and M+?
Im quite new to warrior, only my second season.

hollow leaf
olive wraith
patent escarp
olive wraith
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Enrage>tb>ramp>bt

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Full prio is on wowhead

patent escarp
plush zephyr
#

Most based take I’ve seen in a long time

upbeat swan
#

is there a set M+ 2pc 2pc talent build?

remote bobcat
#

slayer performs incredibly well in m+ at 2p2p

quiet breach
#

has anyone actually seen anyone use the abandon dungeon feature

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every disband I've had so far someone just dips

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and we all leave after

chilly fractal
#

Not out yet

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I believe

mossy stag
#

xD

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i mage a weird tree and its probably cringe

olive wraith
#

Take out bloodborne

remote bobcat
#

??

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???

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Onslaught ?

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what

olive wraith
#

He needs the rn talent

remote bobcat
#

is going on

mossy stag
olive wraith
#

And ra is pretty bad

mossy stag
#

ra bleeds them tho

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for bloodborne

remote bobcat
#

those bleeds dont deal dmg

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my friend

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like barely any

olive wraith
#

Slayer doesn’t use bt much

remote bobcat
#

slayer clicks bt in aoe when u dont have 4set

mossy stag
#

im mountain thane

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with SMF

remote bobcat
#

.

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yea have fun ig

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all you mate

mossy stag
#

xD

remote bobcat
olive wraith
#

Take VC and 2nd ww talent

mossy stag
#

onslaught gives extra bloodthirst damage tho

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it all buffs bloodthirst 😮

olive wraith
#

Rampage damage*

remote bobcat
#

Slaughtering strikes doesnt buff BT

mossy stag
#

oh

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xD

remote bobcat
#

dont cook

olive wraith
#

Your bleed damage is not worth the talent point

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You won’t have enough globals to even press ons anyways

mossy stag
#

is there a Single minded fury build that i can play then xD

sullen dove
#

there’s like levels of cook like u can maybe onslaught if u want but ra really is bootycheeks

fickle cedar
#

Are you guys running VC if using 2 set as slayer on m+ ?

sullen dove
#

Usually just the normal build and swap 1 talent to smf

olive wraith
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Nah ons isn’t worth

mossy stag
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i did this instead

sullen dove
#

like cshb or blood craze or something

bitter palm
feral ivy
#

ewww dinars coming supper early

bitter palm
#

why have sudden death

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when u never press execute

olive wraith
fickle cedar
sullen dove
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O wait real shout Idr if i have sudden death talented as thane

bitter palm
sullen dove
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cluegi

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idk could swing either way

remote bobcat
#

im getting madge at this talent build

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i need to sleep

sullen dove
#

but also won’t be home for few hours and I’ll forget by then so gg

remote bobcat
hollow leaf
olive wraith
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Idr why

mossy stag
olive wraith
#

I’d have to look again

mossy stag
#

or is it rampage

olive wraith
remote bobcat
olive wraith
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Thane doesn’t press rb that much so you’re really not utilizing slaughtering strikes fully

remote bobcat
#

some random for fun playstyle?

mossy stag
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xD

remote bobcat
#

no singular ability will ever hit really chunky

olive wraith
#

Ons damage is baseline ass. And the stacks of ss every 15 seconds isn’t good enough to use as a talent point

remote bobcat
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we are fury warriors

mossy stag
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🙁

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i really wanna play SMF tho

olive wraith
#

You can

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We’re trying to help you with your cook

remote bobcat
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play whatever you want, just dont expect to deal crazy dmg

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ykwim?

olive wraith
#

The talents you selected are pretty bad

mossy stag
#

i cant find abuild on wowhead 🙁

sullen dove
#

you get the normal thane build on wowhead

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Then swap like cshb to smf or somethin

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that’s it

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maybe some other talent is worse unsure

mossy stag
sullen dove
#

fresh meat moment

remote bobcat
sullen dove
mossy stag
#

ok i got rid of that and moved it to this

olive wraith
#

I’d recommend something like this

remote bobcat
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^and only if u rly rly want to play smf

keen knoll
#

yo, you guys swapping your 4 set for higher ilvl gear or keeping it till you get at least 2 set?

reef star
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😮

olive wraith
#

You high key want 2 points in deft

mossy stag
olive wraith
#

I think I’ve heard people saying heroic ilvl might sim better

desert atlas
#

s2 4 set was dogshit

remote bobcat
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which most people dont

fickle cedar
# remote bobcat yes

could you send your tree for this ? trying to sim and see the difference for me

keen knoll
#

So the answer is yes I guess

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thanks boys

remote bobcat
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im playing loboz build which doesnt work with the raidbots apl, since raidbots apl rly likes raging blow when im spamming bt and execute

olive wraith
#

What’s loboz build?

fickle cedar
remote bobcat
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yea

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apl thinks 4set so it spams rb

remote bobcat
#

this is loboz build

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you have every aoe node you can have

olive wraith
#

Oh damn no ss

warped drum
#

I got heroic 4p and man do we have some thick thighs with those thunder blasts

remote bobcat
#

and you get plenty of single target through executes

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like

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i never lose single target

fickle cedar
#

oh the forbidden odyns fury build i remember

olive wraith
#

Hmm

remote bobcat
#

ever

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im always top dps on m+ boss fights

olive wraith
#

I was dropping VC for extra talents

remote bobcat
#

with guildies or pugs

mossy fox
remote bobcat
mossy fox
smoky vale
#

gm critcake

olive wraith
mossy fox
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gm gio

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57

smoky vale
#

when will you play gripcake

tender sky
#

look at that RB damage lmao

mossy fox
olive wraith
#

Ya thane hardly touches rb

smoky vale
#

raging blow57

olive wraith
#

Well a lot less than normal

olive wraith
#

Cheeky early phys comp

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Bm shoulda swapped to mm

plush zephyr
#

Nah BM > MM this season

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For m+ but they’re both interchangeable

olive wraith
#

Oh?

plush zephyr
#

One more cleave other more st

remote bobcat
#

bm fucks

plush zephyr
#

BM fucks

remote bobcat
#

just like mm

brittle crow
#

ppl be using their undercoins to buy summons

plush zephyr
#

Just not in raid

brittle crow
#

i want the transmog

plush zephyr
#

Especially with pets glitching out

#

How is it 2025 and hunters are still having pet issues

olive wraith
#

How is it 2025 and i can’t heroic leap because “no path available “

echo rapids
bleak timber
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feel like being far away from others DPS in M+ because the 5 hard cap

plush zephyr
#

target cap is an overrated talking point

whole remnant
remote bobcat
#

obv you dont outpeak boomkin

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but like

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cmon

bleak timber
#

or MM hunt, or paladin ret

echo rapids
#

Bigger problem is that all our aoe cooldowns are weak

plush zephyr
#

Lock has been uncapped forever and I never mention anyone saying anything about it being broken.

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But being capped is broken

fast mural
#

people were complaining about the mass aoe of destro

desert atlas
#

yea but all these boomkin etc etc do 20 mil for 1 pack

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then 5 mil the next

#

at least we're quite consistent

olive wraith
#

Yes let’s rise up. Flat damage profiles will prevail

fast mural
#

thane is pretty close to people who dont have the new tier set yet

#

so there is hope

plush zephyr
#

Only lock I like is destro

#

But it’s just a hot topic fire mage

desert atlas
#

i've yet to break 20 mil in a pull

fast mural
#

dawnbreaker is a perfect warrior dungeon

desert atlas
#

but i hit 18 mil on floodgate first pull

bleak timber
#

floodgate as war fury deadge

remote bobcat
#

odyns+roar+bladestorm as slayer lets me hit 24mil on flood 1st pull

desert atlas
#

odyns warriorbrain

fast mural
#

and how much do you do the next pull?

remote bobcat
#

usually top dps

desert atlas
#

i did enjoy having odyns

fast mural
#

is slayer actually decent ?

remote bobcat
#

since odyns back up

desert atlas
#

tbf

remote bobcat
#

slayer isnt as good as thane when u have 4set

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but when u onyl have 2set like me

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slayer outperforms thane

fast mural
#

sadge

remote bobcat
#

and its not close

bleak timber
#

still 4p S2 so

fast mural
#

been playing thane since 4p and it cranks

remote bobcat
fast mural
#

almost beat a BM with new tier aswell

olive wraith
#

Can’t wait for 4p

upper trellis
#

ngl i miss odyn's but thane just swangs that thang around tho

echo rapids
#

It’s very zug zug simple too

fast mural
#

got one in vault and 1 from raid

bleak timber
fast mural
#

easiest 4p of my life

remote bobcat
upper trellis
#

2k io or aotc gives second charge

bleak timber
#

so

remote bobcat
#

bro.

olive wraith
#

I wouldn’t suggest using cata for 2p

remote bobcat
#

Ait then

echo rapids
#

If you got a tier vault it should be ok

bleak timber
#

i'm pushing my own keys and i'm still getting the 4 same shit

fast mural
#

my guild had 14/24 people getting a tier piece in vault

upper trellis
#

i used my first cata on a champ piece i had in bag + got a heroic tier vault from delves

fast mural
#

i hope they do a week 0 like this every time now

upper trellis
#

gonna use 2k and a tier coin to get 4-set

remote bobcat
#

using catalyst on champ track is kinda grief

plush zephyr
remote bobcat
#

true

upper trellis
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im saving my guilded for 2h craft off the bat so will have heroic/mythic replacement before it actually matters anyways

fast mural
#

champion is the same as hero this week if you dont use crests

upper trellis
#

champ 8/8 = heroic 4/6

echo rapids
#

Taking hero to 6/6 is griefing

upper trellis
#

^

echo rapids
#

As long as you don’t waste gilded I think it’s ok

upper trellis
#

my former guild didnt understand that

echo rapids
#

Our tier is a huge too

warm crag
#

its still grief if you end up without myth tier in that slot in a few weeks

remote bobcat
#

there are situations where you get a myth shoulder but dont have cata charge left for example, that will let u upgrade the ilvl for the week until u get a cata charge

warm crag
plush zephyr
#

Seasons probably going to be long as fuck, probably doesn’t matter all in all.

upper trellis
#

this too

echo rapids
#

Actually is it me or are tier tokens hella stingy?

tender sky
# warm crag how so

because getting 4 piece in the first 2 weeks is mega value and costs no gilded crests

feral ivy
#

where is this leaver thing where can i see their leaver % or w/e

echo rapids
#

We did heroic with 27 and got one token per boss

obtuse karma
#

why does everyone keep saying its going to be a long season. Isnt it just gonna be the standard 5months+?

echo rapids
#

I swear that’s worse than normal

upper trellis
#

shoulda did it with 30 for tha full loot

obtuse karma
wary grove
#

Are any of the delve trinkets worth it this season?

upper trellis
#

doesnt look like it, sacbrood and antenna exist

fickle cedar
#

dont forget to do lfr if you wanna gamble for tier

feral ivy
warm crag
remote bobcat
#

^

obtuse karma
warm crag
#

and what is it giga value for? killing mythic bosses? for mythic pieces to catalyze to tier that you now cant catalyze cause you pulled the trigger early? unlucky

keen dove
#

does anyone gets lag in dimensius p2 first platform? in heroic

feral ivy
warm crag
#

you're just unnecessarily adding pressure to your and your loot councils gearing decisions

warm crag
echo rapids
#

4p after Tuesday’s vault should be pretty safe for modern

tender sky
#

assuming someone does splits lmao

remote bobcat
keen dove
remote bobcat
keen dove
#

closing wa's and everything

warm crag
#

frame lag or server lag

keen dove
#

its server lag

undone flower
keen dove
#

we all have it

#

at the same time

#

in platform

warm crag
#

you got a bad instance and idk if thats fixable

lapis shadow
#

Not just Heroic

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but normal

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aswell

remote bobcat
lapis shadow
#

We had some ppl that got frozen when flying to his P2 platform

dense elbow
warm crag
#

if you downsize to a ~20 man or less raid it should get better

hollow leaf
#

anyone got a simc string for so'leah trinket stats?

undone flower
lapis shadow
hollow leaf
#

simc string to test for all the different stats on the so'leah trinket

#

I think the question was pretty straightforward

lapis shadow
#

Sorry if im stupid but

#

cant you just item search?

remote bobcat
#

no

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soleahs has optional stats

#

btw bolvars

hollow leaf
#

hi

remote bobcat
#

wouldnt a quick stat weight sim be your answer?

hollow leaf
#

it's for a guildie

warm crag
#

stat weight mentioned

hollow leaf
#

🤷‍♂️

remote bobcat
#

i mean

#

you are essentially adding free stats of something

#

just take whats highest

#

innit

brittle sinew
#

what is the stats i should look for, like the target i saw people saying mastery and haste but want to know what are they

hollow leaf
#

tbf I guess you could probably just do 4 different sims

lapis shadow
#

I see what you mean now @hollow leaf

hollow leaf
remote bobcat
hollow leaf
#

in general fury wants str > mastery > haste > vers > crit, but depends on your character

remote bobcat
#

its just a sim question

hollow leaf
#

cluegi

remote bobcat
#

weapon dmg >>>>>>>>>>>>> str

bitter palm
warm crag
warm crag
#

can you please remove that

bitter palm
#

ye

warm crag
#

i know how to but most people dont

remote veldt
#

Hello guys, i'm feeling my damage are wrong, i'm doing too much raging and not enough bloodthirst ? Like we don't care about the crit % of BT to cast it now ?

bitter palm
#

gonna make it also only kaching if u can press exe

remote bobcat
bitter palm
warm crag
#

also why does the mfe tracker in atrocitys ui have different glowing logic than the kaching aura

bitter palm
#

idk i hate his warrior pack

warm crag
#

i assume you just sent him an early ptr conditional and they didnt update it since?

remote bobcat
#

idk i would never use a prebuilt WA pack

remote veldt
remote bobcat
#

you always click BT

#

to farm for procs

#

you are playing wrong

olive wraith
gray linden
#

pls talents for m+

olive wraith
remote bobcat
gray linden
#

@olive wraith@ i have two tier

olive wraith
#

Wowhead talents

remote veldt
olive wraith
#

Can shuffle some points around back into bt stuff if you need

gray linden
#

@olive wraith i ma livling for serbia iz dont working wow head

olive wraith
#

Rip

remote bobcat
olive wraith
#

St or aoe

remote bobcat
#

i think it was

#

lemme check

olive wraith
#

Ramp is higher than bt I think

remote bobcat
#

no

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its not

olive wraith
#

Ah well there ya go

remote veldt
remote bobcat
desert atlas
#

you will realize how simple it is when you press 3 bloodthirsts in a row

remote bobcat
#

we dont use it anymore

fickle cedar
#

btw whats the range of curse stone idol ? i dont wanna wait a lot before everyone starts slapping

#

ill just use another trinket fk this

hardy vault
#

Hey ! It's weird to have WA Execute lights when Execute is on CD, i'm the only one ?

keen dove
#

yeah

#

its happening

remote bobcat
#

i mean im changing cones sd weakaura

hardy vault
#

yeah when <20%, can i fix it ?

remote bobcat
#

i cant with all the funny shit

winter shoal
#

Just if exe on cd, set glow visibility to false

fickle cedar
#

as soon as you get 2set it goes kaching so much im going insaner

remote bobcat
#

BAM > Kaching

#

prove me wrong

ember cradle
#

Anyone else have significantly less Ethereal Reaping hits than other people in keys? Am I missing something or is it just pure RNG that I have 60% of the hits the other two guys in my key do?

remote bobcat
#

ethereal ?

winter shoal
remote bobcat
#

oh the reshii wraps

#

im cooked

ember cradle
#

I don't think so, let me look

winter shoal
#

I think the cloak is also hasted rppm but we should have pretty high haste

winter shoal
fickle cedar
willow ivy
#

With 4p do you play Thane in the raid aswell? or is it only for m+?

ember cradle
tender sky
ember cradle
#

shrug seemed weird idk

winter shoal
willow ivy
#

Allright, thank you

winter shoal
#

Be warned though

#

That fight is not exactly balanced

echo rapids
#

Damn nice dps

snow edge
#

There are some outliers in DPS, correcto

#

Electric Shaman is also a bit gross

slim coral
#

PoV you pugged a 10

winter shoal
#

Nahhhhh

upper trellis
#

just got screams trinket, does it pull in dungeons or is it safe?

winter shoal
#

I can't with these ele shaman fotm rerollers

winter shoal
upper trellis
#

kk sweet

winter shoal
#

Baze you a 4pc gamer?

#

Also I think my guild's hpal (who is maybe an officer?) joined your guild

smoky vale
slim coral
smoky vale
#

ik baze got 4p

slim coral
#

also thsi is the ele's overall btw

smoky vale
#

doing gambit as fury with sin and ele

#

is unplayable

upper trellis
#

were their monitors on?