#fury
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Boys i am an Arms refugee and i need some help. What is the difference numbers wise between MT and slayer for M+? I am playing both and it feels like slayer only loses 200k on AOE and gains up to 500k more for bosses.
Looks like 400k to me
Do you have 4p?
yes
Thane should be higher on aoe I think. Is that a sim
nah, just a feel, i could be wrong that is why i ask. But i don't feel substantially stronger in 10+ targets in 10-11 than i do on slayer, so i was wondering if it even mattered.
Its season start play for vibes 
If I can cata 2 hero pieces to get 4p should I? My guild has 2 more raid nights this week, 2/8 H currently
Yolo
if you think it will siginficantly help you clear hc, especially bosses you couldnt kill without 4p, sure
otherwise hold for vault
you should probably just send it though
Anyone know where we can find a bis list for fury?
Do i send 2 catalyst charges on 2x tier champion track for 4set?
Cant seem to get any hero gear

Wowhead has it. But bis lists are only bis when you have everything
I’d wait for vault personally
Hmmmmm
unless you NEED to parse
also can just get some heroic track gear from dungs
and catlayst that
Hah kept trying that
for new tier do we always use rampage over 115 or jsut to refresh?
10 ecodome, thane with 4set feels pretty gud
I am gonna keep it real
I was super underwhelmed by MT 4piece. It feels like such a mess to play half the time
Thane* 4 set does a lot more dam on uncapped AoE as sustained dam. Slayer keeps up during bladestorm on AoE (not really), and leads on st.
You play what you think your team needs the most. Prio dam (execute spam) vs AoE dam (blast spam)
With 4pc in raid are we now just sending sudden death procs? Or still using WA?
wa updated i believe
Worth to send champ 4p imo
I just send, ya can't stop me
Mines gone. Have link? Can dm if needed
ima look after dungeon to see if i was capping then ill sned
Ty brother
It’s a .5% increase if you send at 2 mfe (or other conditionals)
guys, do you have to finish the 11.2 Storyline unlock the raid, I have the cloak just not done the latest quests
Nope just need the cloak
!remind gala
xd
Thanks bro
1 boss = st, more than one = AoE
yes but which ones are which
Uh first boss is st, loom is st
Third boss aoe
4 boss aoe
Dh boss aoe, fractus st
Then last 2 have aoe

Yes it seems correct
I’ve only cleared normal so that’s just from what I remember
don't tempt me
🤨
I’ll probably try to pug heroic today
.
Agreed ritchy
Didn’t realize we shouldn’t use catalyst for 2p and sent it on some hero shoulders. How cooked am I? Still have the 2k IO catalyst
I mean. You’re not cooked
when do we use BT with the 4p set?¿
You just might get cucked on vault
Slayer? St? Aoe?
slayer st
Almost never
last resort
It’s a global if you have nothing else to press
i was thinkinhg thaT
do we use in aoe slayer?¿
good, and m+ mountain is still the same like season 2 right?¿
Thane prios bt over rb
nice, thanks man ❤️
In mm+ we take spear really?..
You can
Shitty spell
It’s numerically slightly ahead
Rly
Make condenm great again
I’d prefer we just had good Of again
With pre potting as fury so we take it as we charge
Oh yeah OF is missing
is every m+ fury going slayer now?
It's kinda better until 4p
But not much of a difference
big diff on ST
True
pre 4pc
I feel like trash with no tier set on M+
But unless it's streets it's no big deal
Anyone else not having links work on Wowhead with Firefox all of a sudden?
Is it saying request header too large?
Same lol i feel like a Battle shout machine for physic comp
Do you think it would be the best option to play arms until i get 4p?
well tbh i was playing arms until today and i've seen the difference switching to fury even with 0p, not that much yet but still
and i'm playing thane not slayer atm
I prefer slayer fury over arms pre set
The st feels solid in keys
So with 2 set Slayer we are playing more BT talents in aoe but then more ragingblow/crit nodes in ST? For example for Forgeweaver taking fierce followthrough and vicious contempt instead of opportunist/critical thinking/unbridled? or is that more for better execute window for that boss rather than an aoe/ST choice
i had a good pull on that boss but I'm seeing a lot more fierce followthrough over opportunist and I normally play tank so it's hard for me to understand why
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/bQYjLJ29WntpfTcK?fight=25&type=summary&source=26
This was what I played, is it better to play FF/Contempt?
no the links arent working unless i open them all in a new tab
fix wowhead
weird it was Tamper monkey addon
I think opportunist is only better when we get 4p. Can definitely aim to see if it’s worth moving points into crit thinking
streets dungeon is awful in every conceivable way
true
Okay thank you - so more or less we only move away from BT builds once we get the 4set w/ slayer?
both ST and aoe
god damn I hate attempting dimensious all fucking day.
St yes
ppl don't know shit
Aoe bt takes prio in 6t+
At least the flying part is beautiful
whats this fractilus weak aura? what packs are people using? ive only done lfr so far, but now it get serious (normal)
It didn’t seem hard on normal to just look for 3 stacks of wall
Idk if it gets worse on harder difficulty
is the slayer m+ talents the ones on wowhead?
Would if I could but I can't so I won't
Hello, I want to use Unhinged Tracker for Fury but it doens't load ingame. Any reason ?
but is this only when we are playing Thane? Or just as a rule of thumb we get more out of BT; maybe because of reap the storm?
Is there any information about how far single minded fury is behind titan's grip? 😄
For slayer 6t+ bt over rb cause reap procs, yup
For thane bt prio over rb always (4p)
You're my hero, thank you
You could run a sim
Lurk around here long enough you learn a thing or two
I just regurgitate what I see
do we switch to thane at 2p or 4p for m+
Lurker here, thank you all for being kind and informative, sloppy for all of you
4p
damn.. beat dimensious... finally 😢
how much catalyst charges are we supposed to have (with the 2k thing included) 2 or 3 ?
2 i think
ye 2
oki, thought i used one or something since it says 2/3
id use 1 for 2set then save the other for vauly
idr did you have 4p
2-set
people say thane is pretty big with 4
2-set im guessing slayer right?
uh maybe slayer then
yeah
(4-set m+) Where do you put the 3 champion spear points if you run roar? Cruel strikes x2 and rally? Or uproar, TW and a cruel strikes/rally?
should like always have rally no
but yea cruel strikes as far as capstones go usually
yeah, rally is another reason I am not running the wowhead m+ build....I live the PUG life
and I will probably almost never get to hit "good" champ spears in keys
I mean I think so long as you have 1 tb charge going into it its about as good as it gets
like bank a tb have spear and avatar up, spear > tb wait to see if you get a tb reset (like half a second or so) if you do hit it again if you don’t then Ava and hit it again
can potentially get like 2 or more giga tbs + 2 normal tbs if obscenely lucky but worst case is still 2 maybe 3 normal tbs which shouldn’t be that bad
Be enraged before all this also ofc
its not worth to spend gilded on a hero track wep right?
craft
just about everyone should craft a weapon next week
yeah i figured
How do u make difference between 2 execution conditions with the WA ?
this should all be included in the weakaura
yeah but, when the target is below 20% and the WA trigger, can be priority 6. instead of 9 no ? When 2 stack of sudden deaths
how do u manage this ?
personnally I just send the exec when it glows up
so priority 6., no matter what right ?
dont do that lol
theres a whole reason why we have everything here
dont think about it
There is a not saying it is a minimal dps loss to just send it. But I dont know what that minimal loss number is. I have heard 2% but also heard lower
just press it when WA lights up
anything over 1% is a lot
considering how little damage execute does
I have 2 onehanders that are much better than the twohanders, is single minded fury an option ? or no ?
sim it
thane feels pretty good for araz
Don’t ads just die in a second
I have the Luxthos WA and I press it when it glows up, that's what i meant
when but when WA lights up, can be priority 9. in my screen, so Rampage with <115 rage before execution
115*
I agree. But if you make up that 1% with better uptime or mechanics or whatever cause you are not thinking about rotation as much it could be better for that person.
Obviously best to learn to do it correctly and keep uptime but it doesnt always work that way.
If it was super important then it wouldnt have a note. But thats a different topic.
this is min max you'l NEVER think about it whe nyou'll be doing +10 keys
just blindly follow the weakaura
slow enough
its so much easier
which one
the sudden death weakaura that we've been using since start of the expac
The sd conditions one
Only after 4p
Holy hell the 4pc is gonna be nice for m+...just now trying it out. Now I need to stop filling with RB....my brain is so programmed
Yeah im excited for it. I didnt play with in on ptr
isn't that included in most warrior weakaura package?
is fury f good this tier? or not so f good?
Almost wanna swap the bt and rb keybinds for Thane lol. So used to spamming rb
It’s not in luxthos package
oh
Fury good
idk i dont use weakauras
well not rotational ones
peep my name for why
are you sure
Positive
Do you hear a kaching sound
Only a sound for BT crit if I remember correctly
But I rely more on visual cue than audio
i have 2st/2st and thane imo is way better than slayer lol
@olive wraith Okey I think it does include it in the package
St or M+
look
M+
Left side the wa track for exec I took from here and the middle the luxthos wa
they glow at the same time?
Luxthos just tracks sudden death, its stacks and duration
^
It doesn’t account for any Mfa stacks
well they both glow at the exact same times on 10+ tries
And I'm suppsoe to press it when it glows
I also use luxthos and I don’t have that happening
maybe he updated it
My kaching and my luxthos light up separately
also you should show MFE on the boss
Also we don't need the BT tracker anymore?
To be honest I do find the WA a bit clunky. It will activate even if execute is still on CD, and I’m used to just mashing the execute button when I hear the sound so it was throwing me off lol
I modified it to only trigger if execute is usable and that’s helped
where?
how do u do that ?
Just go into the triggers in the WA addon in game and play around with them, then add any removed or added triggers to the order of the return function that has a t[n] format
It’s all in the addon and is pretty easy to navigate
Not at home right now so can’t share the WA
rip delves https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/s/ooEYAEuyK2
aint no way
42
is there any macro for all possible berserk shouts available? cuz they dont automatically replace the existing one?
Because it’s the answer
sus
lmaoo
how do u get delve map again?
Killing nemesis in delve
can't get hero track from delve map without r2
Do we have to change talent for 2p-2p ?
yes use wowhead talents
ty
no bloodthirst in execute phase since no vicious contempt ?
BT is a full on filler now
or survival tool with enraged regen
can remove bt crit tracker
execute has much higher prio
look at wowhead rotation section for exact
thane u can keep bt crit tracker until 4 pc
Only for 4p
ohh yeah the 4 PC is the giga raging blow buff that makes BT irrelevant, ig keep the BT tracker for now
idk wowhead doesn't have a 2pc specific rotation
I know it makes execute higher prio tho
hmm ok
Has anyone figured out why Salhadaar boss randomly meelee slaps a dps
Do we not press bloodthirst this patch in ST?
It's so far down in wowhead's prio list
Almost sketchily low
Nope that’s accurate, it’s down bad
It’s solely to fill when you need rage and don’t have other buttons to push
Sweet, another keybind freed up for toys with no cd
You press it if you can’t press anything else
Is there a macro to kick or stun directly when we hover nameplates rather than the enemyes itself? I already got the hover on enemy one
@ mouseover
You can structure it as /cast [@ mouseover, exists][] so if you aren’t mouseovering, it’ll go to the next condition which is your target
You can add in other conditionals like if you want to [@ focus,exists] for priority kick/stun targets
#showtooltip Pummel
/cast [@mouseover, harm, nodead][harm,nodead] Pummel
the macro I have
idk guys im doing pmuch same stuff i was doing s2 ( cuz no set still) but my dmg in raid feels so bad...i was always top 3 before xD u guys having issue too with dmg?
im speaking about raid
I mean new set is big for almost everyone
So without it you won’t be keeping up
It’s week 1
ye but like at the pull im 18° in details wtf
Gear and tier will fix the issues you have atm
i was always top 3 in my raid
and literally doing the same rotation i was doing 1 week ago or 2
cuz i dont have set or anything still
how its possible xD
Class changes, tuning and mplus champ and hero gear
Like me and the other warrior in my group are bottom 1/3 atm but that will change once we get 4 piece of full hero gear
Insta charged one of the adds on Loomithar and got behind the shit and died
Same thing happened to me nevada. I think we need 4-piece to perform well this tier
got unexpectedly fast 4set does fury slayer rotation change with 4set in raid? 😄
Can’t wait to get home and slam I got my 4 pc last night
Tunder blast tunder blast tunder blast
are u guys doing roar later in the openr?
soon
I did the same thing on my guilds first normal kill
Never again
Ok so would you guys catalyst 2 heroic pieces to rush 2 set, or just hold until tuesday to see vault? not sure how strong the 2pc is for raiding
hold to finish 4set
Just drop the 2p
unless you're planning to clear the raid before next week there's no point in rushing
I used one cata on getting 2 piece and I’m saving second cata to get 4
Dont we only have 1 cata charge tho
Oh wtf
So are we dead in m+?
pre 4pc ye
nah
guys quick question, is the cata charge from 2k io only for the char that has 2k io? or do i get an extra charge on all characters
doin fine rn
all chars that hit 2k
4pc is a crazy power spike, legit
okay, thanks
i'm eating crazy
Sheeeeeesh
Is there any way to access a simc output with BIS gear?
so with slayer we basically ignore t-roar unless we run out of buttons? lawl (new 4pc)
Keys
4p is lovely on plexus
slayer?
yea
How much did wrecking throw do
2.6%
I have gotten 3 chests but can't get a damn head or hands to drop
40mil
😮
I kept forgetting what bind i put it on
and then did a goofy unenraged bladestorm so
dmg coulda been better lmao
helmet mythic ain't in AH yet tho
wym
champ chest piece yea
do you have 2p 2p ?
just wait imo
that's a big part of the dmg upgrade
see if you get loot
then decide from there
i got helm too. You don't gotta follow bis list to a T this early. 4p is just strong af
but you can if you want of
ofc*
i would so i can start farming a full vault of 10s before reset
then its not worth it xd
ask ur rl
aighty
no, do not cata anything below hero
u can infinitely farm hero pieces from m+
I legit tried no luck
getting used to rota cuz I have been underperforming

got pressure gg
also do we craft belt 3rd?
exe>rb right
in aoe u bt over rb at 6 or more targets
depends on conditionals
does it have to be >1 on marks and SD to prio exe
for brutal finish u spam rb for slaughtering strikes
y pretty much
after BS yes I got that
or aj falling off or 2 sd
honestly just run a quick sim and check the apl

its like sd falling off or aj falling off or 2 sd or more than 1 mfe
in execute its 1 or more mfe

guys is there any new sd WA or we use the same old one?
iirc just using sd when it procs is like
less than 1% loss
ye its updated
right so mfe 1 or >1 is the only condition?
where u exe
its a good day to be r1 on frostmourne boys
Gaming
@desert atlas 4p?
champ lvl track?
mfe 1 is during exe phase
kk
and thats cause i was fucking lazy and did like
1 mfe is with sd outside of exe
6 ara kara and no hero gloves/shoulders
so i just cata champ bc idk 4 set was a 400k dps increase
cbf
I'm experimenting with some sims, completely removing option 9 from the APL has an extremely minimal DPS loss (0.1%). Feels like it would be more effective to just remove that condition from the SD WA, because the second execute phase hits that WA is triggering every second and it's quite annoying
it says any number
of mfe
so basically rb only after BS then
cuz u proc that almost always
ye 1 or more which is any
ok got ot
it
rb only after BS and bt only if >6 targets
and u let rage overcap after bs right till u run out of rb charges?@bitter palm
aighty
I have been doing this with 3p
thus why my dps was lowest in raid haha
gg!
old slayer talent
we dont get a cata next week do we? its week after now?
Yeah next week is the full spark
Each week we either get the second half of a spark or a cata charge
It got off sync last season because they gave everyone another half spark due to the exploits
anyone saving up for weapon craft?
Heya couple of questions for M+ / Crafting.
Im looking at the WoWhead M+ Fury Mountain Thane build:
Whats the reasoning behind taking out thunderous roar and the 2 passives and putting it into champion spear + 2 passives?
Moving Hack and Slash to Unbridled Ferocity?
And lastly, assuming we have 60 gilded for next week, craft 720 2h?
more crits for thunder blast
we barely ever ever use RB in thane build with 4 set
yes
So yeh, pre new tier we are absolutely trash as fury slayer. you guys switching to thane with 2 piece or just waiting till full 4 and sticking it out?
for m+
what is the ideal rotation with 4 set?
feels so bad im tempted to use 2 cata on hero pieces to get 4 piece, even though it means no cata as bad luck protection next week on myth tier.
gotcha, so only switch out hack and slash to unbridled once we get 4p?
i mean u can just hold until next week
you shouldn't really be playing mountain thane until 4 pc anyway
Slayer has been feeling pretty good
in m+ ? what
Yes
lol
It’s no thane 4p
but yes if you're going off the Wowhead guides, the Mountain Thane build assumes 4p
But it’s not that bad
otherwise just play Slayer
gotcha appreciate it!
@covert void slayer is neat as in m+ before 4 set thane
it rapes thane on st
Agreed
I would not describe my experience in and around 10s as neat personally lol with old 4 set slayer
Thane still has good st though
but maybe its just me
You don’t have any new tier?
there are factors that might make it not as great
if you're not playing around sudden death/mfd properly
need 4p
ur cdr on bladestorm kinda relies on it
or new 2p
it gets a bit better with 2p bc flat execute dmg
and thats why i was curious if new 2pc is a big upgrade, and do you go thane with just 2pc
probably?
i didn't
thane is with 4p
ionizing strikes is a lot of boss damage but, slayer boss dmg is still better
so there isn't really a reason to swap at 2pc
I'm tempted to just throw my 2 catas at it, and yolo next week. Pray I get something that doesnt need it.
keep in mind we are tuned around new s3 tier so not using it will feel bad
i put my catas into hero/champ track bc im lazy
especially when we are used to having shit tiersets
I know you shouldnt but yeh, really finding it to be pretty bad personally
and i wanted the 400k dps increase right then
considering the turbo boost has been confirmed
for .5 patch
it literally won't matter
unless ur RWF
hm, fair.
sure u might kick urself in the nuts if u get a myth track in the vault
and nocata
but
its w/e
6 ara kara in a row with no hero gloves/shoulders was enough to push me over the edge and cata champ gear
i mean, myth weap, tier or trinket you're laughing.
Get non tier myth plate will just be behind a week I guess.
tempted to just do this tbh too.
Slayer has less aoe
But your prio/st is so good
I’m only really getting gapped by mm. And a 4p Evoker slaughtered me in an 8

its such a minor loss if that happened which is just a nothing burger. Send your cata and get that 4pc shits massive for fury
Ooh banana
Hello gamers,
I modified the SD WA to have some QOL changes if anyone is interested:
- **Kaching only happens if execute is actually usable. **
- The previous version would trigger when execute was still on CD, and I just wanna smash the button the second I hear the sound
- Removed the following condition from the WA: Execute while the target is below 20% and any number of Marked for Execution stacks
- I thought this was weird to include in this WA, because it's a separate priority than what the original "kaching" tracked
- Not doing this is less than a 0.1% DPS loss
- There was an unnecessary amount of "kachings" in the execute phase
- If ashen juggernaut is going to expire, there are no SD stacks, but the boss is <= 20% HP, it will now kaching anyways to remind you to renew the ashen juggernaut stacks
- Changed trigger from <3s to <4s, to give more grace time to refresh the stacks
Here's the link if anyone is interested: https://wago.io/v8fGQcaxd
Wago.io is a database of sharable World of Warcraft addon elements
oh that looks nice, ty

how troll would it be for me to play single minded fury
It's your sub, play what you like
hawt
For heroic araz + SH is the warpclaw / stone idol any good? or just run pacemaker +secret tech
How does the 4 Piece change out Playstyle in Raid and M+?
Im quite new to warrior, only my second season.
lol
Almost no bt for slayer st. Almost no rb for thane
thats all? So spam BT in M+ with Thane
got it thankss
Holy fucking shit preach
Most based take I’ve seen in a long time
is there a set M+ 2pc 2pc talent build?
has anyone actually seen anyone use the abandon dungeon feature
every disband I've had so far someone just dips
and we all leave after
going to play SMF this season
xD
i mage a weird tree and its probably cringe
Take out bloodborne
why do you have improved whirlwind but no meatcleaver
??
???
Onslaught ?
what
He needs the rn talent
is going on

And ra is pretty bad
Slayer doesn’t use bt much
Remove hack n slash/onslaught/bloodborne
Take VC and 2nd ww talent
Rampage damage*
Slaughtering strikes doesnt buff BT
dont cook
Your bleed damage is not worth the talent point
You won’t have enough globals to even press ons anyways
is there a Single minded fury build that i can play then xD
there’s like levels of cook like u can maybe onslaught if u want but ra really is bootycheeks
Are you guys running VC if using 2 set as slayer on m+ ?
Usually just the normal build and swap 1 talent to smf
Nah ons isn’t worth
yes
i did this instead
like cshb or blood craze or something
drop hack and slash and sd for vicious contempt
ewww dinars coming supper early
Ons is def not worth it dude
why not ?
O wait real shout Idr if i have sudden death talented as thane
surely not right
but also won’t be home for few hours and I’ll forget by then so gg

as slayer with new tier you only press bt if you're out of rb charges, as thane you want to press bt on cd to fish for tb procs
can't you make bloodthirst your hardest hitting ability
I’d have to look again
or is it rampage
Not with new tier. Tb is your highest ability
What is your plan?
Thane doesn’t press rb that much so you’re really not utilizing slaughtering strikes fully
some random for fun playstyle?
no singular ability will ever hit really chunky
Ons damage is baseline ass. And the stacks of ss every 15 seconds isn’t good enough to use as a talent point
we are fury warriors
The talents you selected are pretty bad
i cant find abuild on wowhead 🙁
you get the normal thane build on wowhead
Then swap like cshb to smf or somethin
that’s it
maybe some other talent is worse unsure
what about this 😄
fresh meat moment

ok i got rid of that and moved it to this
^and only if u rly rly want to play smf
yo, you guys swapping your 4 set for higher ilvl gear or keeping it till you get at least 2 set?
😮
You high key want 2 points in deft
Sim question
yay! tyvm
ye
I think I’ve heard people saying heroic ilvl might sim better
s2 4 set was dogshit
its not rly a sim question unless he's willing to sim custom apl too
which most people dont
could you send your tree for this ? trying to sim and see the difference for me
im playing loboz build which doesnt work with the raidbots apl, since raidbots apl rly likes raging blow when im spamming bt and execute
What’s loboz build?
yeah it makes sense, was checking the actions sequence on the sim and its assuming i have 4 set, unlucky
this is loboz build
you have every aoe node you can have
Oh damn no ss
I got heroic 4p and man do we have some thick thighs with those thunder blasts
and you get plenty of single target through executes
like
i never lose single target
oh the forbidden odyns fury build i remember
Hmm
I was dropping VC for extra talents
with guildies or pugs

gm critcake

when will you play gripcake
look at that RB damage lmao
RB who?
Ya thane hardly touches rb
raging blow57
Well a lot less than normal
Oh?
One more cleave other more st
bm fucks
BM fucks
just like mm
ppl be using their undercoins to buy summons
Just not in raid
i want the transmog
Especially with pets glitching out
How is it 2025 and hunters are still having pet issues
How is it 2025 and i can’t heroic leap because “no path available “
Because heroic leap is and has always been just a reskinned charge
feel like being far away from others DPS in M+ because the 5 hard cap
target cap is an overrated talking point
Hi
thats just cope, both hero talents have ways of dealing big aoe dam
obv you dont outpeak boomkin
but like
cmon
or MM hunt, or paladin ret
Bigger problem is that all our aoe cooldowns are weak
Lock has been uncapped forever and I never mention anyone saying anything about it being broken.
But being capped is broken
shadowlands S3 and S4
people were complaining about the mass aoe of destro
yea but all these boomkin etc etc do 20 mil for 1 pack
then 5 mil the next
at least we're quite consistent
Yes let’s rise up. Flat damage profiles will prevail
i've yet to break 20 mil in a pull
dawnbreaker is a perfect warrior dungeon
but i hit 18 mil on floodgate first pull
floodgate as war fury 
odyns 
and how much do you do the next pull?
usually top dps
i did enjoy having odyns
is slayer actually decent ?
since odyns back up
tbf
slayer isnt as good as thane when u have 4set
but when u onyl have 2set like me
slayer outperforms thane
sadge
still 4p S2 so
been playing thane since 4p and it cranks
? how we literally have 2 cata charges
almost beat a BM with new tier aswell
Can’t wait for 4p
ngl i miss odyn's but thane just swangs that thang around tho
It’s very zug zug simple too
got one in vault and 1 from raid
we have 2 charges ?
easiest 4p of my life
yea 1 charge baseline and 1 charge from being 2k io
2k io or aotc gives second charge
bro.
I wouldn’t suggest using cata for 2p
Ait then
If you got a tier vault it should be ok
i'm pushing my own keys and i'm still getting the 4 same shit
my guild had 14/24 people getting a tier piece in vault
i used my first cata on a champ piece i had in bag + got a heroic tier vault from delves
i hope they do a week 0 like this every time now
gonna use 2k and a tier coin to get 4-set
using catalyst on champ track is kinda grief
Let the man play he’s the one paying his sub
true
im saving my guilded for 2h craft off the bat so will have heroic/mythic replacement before it actually matters anyways
champion is the same as hero this week if you dont use crests
champ 8/8 = heroic 4/6
I mean 8/8 champ is 4/6hero
Taking hero to 6/6 is griefing
^
As long as you don’t waste gilded I think it’s ok
my former guild didnt understand that
Our tier is a huge too
its still grief if you end up without myth tier in that slot in a few weeks
there are situations where you get a myth shoulder but dont have cata charge left for example, that will let u upgrade the ilvl for the week until u get a cata charge
no?
how so
Seasons probably going to be long as fuck, probably doesn’t matter all in all.
this too
Actually is it me or are tier tokens hella stingy?
because getting 4 piece in the first 2 weeks is mega value and costs no gilded crests
where is this leaver thing where can i see their leaver % or w/e
We did heroic with 27 and got one token per boss
why does everyone keep saying its going to be a long season. Isnt it just gonna be the standard 5months+?
I swear that’s worse than normal
shoulda did it with 30 for tha full loot
System is not yet in place
Are any of the delve trinkets worth it this season?
doesnt look like it, sacbrood and antenna exist
dont forget to do lfr if you wanna gamble for tier
... wtf already got ppl leaving keys
entire guild can get 4p by end of week 1 assuming a competent loot council and no splits, if you add splits its even more guaranteed
^
Everyone leaves a dead key
and what is it giga value for? killing mythic bosses? for mythic pieces to catalyze to tier that you now cant catalyze cause you pulled the trigger early? unlucky
does anyone gets lag in dimensius p2 first platform? in heroic
one was a dead key yea.. streets but the other 1 was not even close
you're just unnecessarily adding pressure to your and your loot councils gearing decisions
frame or server
preach king
4p after Tuesday’s vault should be pretty safe for modern
assuming someone does splits lmao

its not frame we tried it all
he didnt assume, he said if
closing wa's and everything
are you experiencing frame or server lag
frame lag or server lag
its server lag
The worst feeling : getting a myth tier slot in vault but no charge left
you got a bad instance and idk if thats fixable
then getting cata+another myth piece u wanna catalyze next week
We had some ppl that got frozen when flying to his P2 platform
Getting the myth slot for the piece you just catalysed as HC 
if you downsize to a ~20 man or less raid it should get better
anyone got a simc string for so'leah trinket stats?
That’s why, you should do like me and get 4p week 1, so next week charge is for next week vault
What does this even mean
simc string to test for all the different stats on the so'leah trinket
I think the question was pretty straightforward
hi
it's for a guildie
stat weight mentioned
🤷♂️
i mean
you are essentially adding free stats of something
just take whats highest
innit
what is the stats i should look for, like the target i saw people saying mastery and haste but want to know what are they
tbf I guess you could probably just do 4 different sims
I see what you mean now @hollow leaf
there aren't any, you follow your sims
generally its mastery >= haste > vers > crit but a lot of people overstack mastery to where vers outvalues mastery for example
in general fury wants str > mastery > haste > vers > crit, but depends on your character
its just a sim question
you forgor weapon dmg
cluegi
weapon dmg >>>>>>>>>>>>> str
main hand weapon dps >>>>>> off hand weapon dps >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> str

the kaching weakaura kachinging every time you have 1 mfe in execute is absolutely unhinged btw
idk why i did it ngl
can you please remove that
ye
i know how to but most people dont
Hello guys, i'm feeling my damage are wrong, i'm doing too much raging and not enough bloodthirst ? Like we don't care about the crit % of BT to cast it now ?
gonna make it also only kaching if u can press exe
how dare you add accurate context
it was cause soem people were complaining about it not proccing
also why does the mfe tracker in atrocitys ui have different glowing logic than the kaching aura
do u have 4p?
idk i hate his warrior pack
i assume you just sent him an early ptr conditional and they didnt update it since?
idk i would never use a prebuilt WA pack
Yes i'm having 4P and feeling doing shit w my raging and blood
you never click RB unless u have to as filler
you always click BT
to farm for procs

you are playing wrong

pls talents for m+
Do you have tier
@olive wraith@ i have two tier
Wowhead talents
Okay thanks mate So now my priority is to BT/Rampage and spam Thunderclap ?
Can shuffle some points around back into bt stuff if you need
@olive wraith i ma livling for serbia iz dont working wow head
Rip
Rampage to Enrage > Tblast > BT > Rampage > Rb
St or aoe
Ramp is higher than bt I think
Ah well there ya go
Okay thanks for the help gonna thunderclap some bitchies
you can safely delete the crit chance BT weakaura btw
you will realize how simple it is when you press 3 bloodthirsts in a row
we dont use it anymore
btw whats the range of curse stone idol ? i dont wanna wait a lot before everyone starts slapping
ill just use another trinket fk this
Hey ! It's weird to have WA Execute lights when Execute is on CD, i'm the only one ?
i mean im changing cones sd weakaura
yeah when <20%, can i fix it ?
i cant with all the funny shit
You should be able to change that pretty easily with a glow condition
Just if exe on cd, set glow visibility to false
as soon as you get 2set it goes kaching so much im going insaner
Anyone else have significantly less Ethereal Reaping hits than other people in keys? Am I missing something or is it just pure RNG that I have 60% of the hits the other two guys in my key do?
ethereal ?
Do they have the boots and you don't?
I don't think so, let me look
I think the cloak is also hasted rppm but we should have pretty high haste
Shouldn't be too hard to remove the kaching if you want, my exe wa also doesn't kaching
yeah but then im just gonna forget, my brain is tied to it now ... too late for me
With 4p do you play Thane in the raid aswell? or is it only for m+?
Neither had boots, one was a destro lock and one is a WW monk. Sitting at 32% haste
someone posted a WA earlier to fix it
shrug seemed weird idk
Thane on DH council in raid but that's probably it
Allright, thank you
Damn nice dps
PoV you pugged a 10
Nahhhhh
just got screams trinket, does it pull in dungeons or is it safe?
I can't with these ele shaman fotm rerollers
I haven't noticed it pulling anything
kk sweet
Baze you a 4pc gamer?
Also I think my guild's hpal (who is maybe an officer?) joined your guild
wtf
ye boy
ik baze got 4p
also thsi is the ele's overall btw
were their monitors on?