gio when he attacks mobs that i thunderclapped a single time as i pull 50 more
#fury
sullen dove
sullen dove
idk smelled bad ig
junior gale
Tsk tsk tsk gio
smoky vale
yah
sullen dove
mildly tight timer but eh
sullen dove
boosted
smoky vale
gg
junior gale
Second boss is free
clever belfry
@gleaming siren gear check
smoky vale
streets timer is just fucked because of rp
bitter palm
idk like we were fast blasting
and then i just look at timer
on the miniboss before
soazmi
and its like
so tight
wtf
junior gale
We wiped once on second boss blasting the whole key and only had a minute left on timer for 10
junior gale
I blame my ele sham and assassination rogue for requiring every boss to have funnel
unborn delta
They should just remove music boss from streets it’s so Zzz
junior gale
I tanked all day yesterday. Pulling mass groups of trash onto bosses. Thanks to them
unborn delta
Nothing happens during it
bitter palm
I blame my ele sham and assassination rogue for requiring every boss to have fun...
ye assa st is non existent
chilly fractal
streets timer is just fucked because of rp
That shield on oasis boss is too beefy imho
junior gale
Neat little thing before first boss in HOA is to hit the three casters before before the boss spawns for free funnel
They respawn
fiery kraken
Ok ty it all
junior gale
do they cast
Yeah but on a 10 they just died like 10 seconds later anyways
Ele assa fdk make things go bye bye
junior gale
Doing 2 like 2 more mil overall than ele fdk
bitter palm
casual was doing 13mil on ptr
overall
its insane
and today i havent lost a single time on overall
usually gapping everyone quite hard
and i am s2 4p
s3 4p should help even more on aoe
echo rapids
What’s your secret
bitter palm
giga shiv
bitter palm
What’s your secret
assa rogue
echo rapids
assa rogue
Oh right
midnight sierra
sure this has been asked a million times but for keys until we get 4 piece are we just running slayer?
radiant plank
Cant wait to get s3 4pc on my sub and BP in 3t
bitter palm
assa that is
midnight sierra
even with 2 piece
radiant plank
sure this has been asked a million times but for keys until we get 4 piece are w...
yes
bitter palm
casual made sub look insane too but not as insane as assa
frozen field
do we drop 4 set for 2 + 2
bitter palm
also how funny is it
junior gale
design is cooked on that spec
Better practice it my rogue buddy was going off on how it's not possible to play assa on streets
radiant plank
do we drop 4 set for 2 + 2
yes generally
junior gale
That it's a sub or outlaw key
frozen field
yes generally
thanks gamer
radiant plank
Sub is piss easy
bitter palm
that all 3 locks are in the top 6
radiant plank
you play it every 30s for 14s
bitter palm
Better practice it my rogue buddy was going off on how it's not possible to play...
ik sub
bitter palm
ye u just afk between cds
radiant plank
very chill tbh
bitter palm
just watching timers for bosses
bro details pmo
why is eviscerate using envenom icon
radiant plank
why is eviscerate using envenom icon
cuz im in assa spec rn
bitter palm
ah makes sense
radiant plank
)))
bitter palm
(it doesnt)
sterile sigil
Anyone got a good understanding of fury warrior in M+ that can help me with a few things.
bitter palm
no idea
junior gale
constantly chasing that cd high and then crashing to nothing outside of them
junior gale
it wouldnt be bad if u werent actually afk
like if there wasnt downtime
I remember learning sub for fun in S1 and I was like wtf is this
literally sitting afk not pressing buttons waiting
radiant plank
find it in pack
it was serrated spone spikes
radiant plank
literally sitting afk not pressing buttons waiting
its very chill compared to arms/fury
lets you focus on whats going on around you
clever stone
did they remove the cd from battle shout?
junior gale
its very chill compared to arms/fury
I couldnt do it. I need to be always adhd pressing something
junior gale
did they remove the cd from battle shout?
yes
clever stone
pog
olive wraith
Anyone got a good understanding of fury warrior in M+ that can help me with a fe...
Just ask in here
tranquil parcel
Is it only for me that Ara-Kara Sacbrood, sims very bad compared to great trinkets from last season?
bitter palm
its very chill compared to arms/fury
ye its refreshing
sterile sigil
So I pvp a lot on warrior but getting into the PVE scene. Problem is everytime I read a guide it’s like 7,000 things so I was wondering is there weak auras that help you understand when to hit bloodthirsty rather than raging blow or whirlwind etc to keep good uptime ?
Like I wanna set up correctly
olive wraith
There’s usually wa associated with bt crit tracking as well as stacks for ww
There’s a few generic packs on wago
radiant plank
ye its refreshing
What build are u playin? Bleed or hybrid?
digital mauve
yeah I also sim lower on slayer than on thane with 0 tier set
on 5 targets
but the gameplay feels better with slayer
Prio RB more than BT, and send Exec with 1 mark + 1 Sudden Death
bitter palm
What build are u playin? Bleed or hybrid?
bleed
clever belfry
I tought you meant me having unequipped Wrists on Lock
No im asking if u got cool gear
warm crag
No im asking if u got cool gear
hello
warm crag
wtf?
gleaming siren
@clever belfry
warm crag
did you ping yourself
gleaming siren
`yea
warm crag
it is time to pull dimensius
i sure hope the adds will spawn and he will telegraph his swing before his rock arrives
spare steppe
Dimensius is fun, very curious to see how heroic goes
radiant plank
playing kb
makes sense
untold nymph
is our 4p bonsu bigger than our 2p? because im not feeling that much of an increase with 2p thane
chilly fractal
4p thane is the whole bonus
untold nymph
😭 here i was getting all hyped cuz i had 2p
bitter palm
is our 4p bonsu bigger than our 2p? because im not feeling that much of an incre...
thane needs 4p
untold nymph
would going slayer in m+ until then be better
chilly fractal
We only got 1 zenith token all Normal mode and it went to a rogue… then heroic 2nd boss we saw another Zenith went to another rogue…
Surely we see another Zenith tonight in heroic
untold nymph
damn that stinks
storm birch
2p 2p slayer feels chill in keys
vale gale
Hey guys probably a frequent question but do I play mountain thane in m+ w the new 2 set?
untold nymph
2p 2p slayer feels chill in keys
i didnt play last season so im raw dogging no set atm besides the new 2p
untold nymph
hmm okay ill give her a whirl ty <33
solemn remnant
do you lose tazavesh hard mode buff if you die in m+ taz?
torpid garden
love the ST damage feels so good
Can confirm.
solemn remnant
Hey guys probably a frequent question but do I play mountain thane in m+ w the n...
you can do either, if i remember right slayer is better until you get tier set, check critcakes video on it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSERtq_Yc-Q)
personally i am not bothering to switch from thane for a week or two
wintry hatch
we replacing belt once sim tells us too?
fast mural
ye
young swan
Whats this 3 nxt to my healing vial
isnt that the energy tea with 3 stacks
cant remember the name
thistletea or some shit
worn rain
karmic fiber
When do you guys use the cursed stone idol when you pull an aoe pack? seems clunky to use
fast mural
i went from 3.4mil sim dps to 4.1mil sim dps with 4 set 
modest condor
if you use it during charge it will go off once you hit the pack from what ive heard
so basically reck > charge+trinket > avatar?
olive wraith
End the season now
smoky vale
if some chud didnt die twice woulda been like numba 4-6 maybe
i got murdered man
rich gyro
what should i do 2 st first ?
i have now shoulder set
and i can change chest head and hands
bitter palm
how
sage ether
has screams trinekt been updated for dmg numbers on fury wowhead?
simming much better since the buff
sullen cloak
Do we swap to Thane for Mythic + once we get 2 set?
crude ridge
Do we swap to Thane for Mythic + once we get 2 set?
Slayer/Thane doesn't really matter at 2pc
thane takes the lead at 4pc
crude ridge
He asked M+ so yeah aoe
sullen cloak
cool thansk guys
jovial dagger
old dalaran
feral ivy
did lvl 9 FG .. we got first boss and wiped and tank leaves
who the fuck leaves week 1
prime summit
when do we replace our belt
prime summit
yeah true, gonna run some sims ty
olive wraith
He asked M+ so yeah aoe
Probably better to be slayer cause prio/boss damage is that much better
bitter palm
He asked M+ so yeah aoe
theres a lot of st in m+ too
and thane needs more time to get its damage out
or u just giga high roll 349 tb on opener
olive wraith
Real
restive peak
Thane sucks
Until 4p
Also not sold we can’t fill the prio role as slayer this tier, I’m absolutely gapping people in 10-12s with 2pce and ignoring RB in AOE to reap
winter shoal
3 assa rogues comp
Me when sudden demise doesn't stack with multiple rogues
olive wraith
Slayer kinda slaps
junior oyster
Been doing slayer til 4-piece like folks have been saying, and I really don't look forward to Thane overtaking because slayer is so much FUN in m+
bitter palm
Me when sudden demise doesn't stack with multiple rogues
that would be diabolical
olive wraith
Been doing slayer til 4-piece like folks have been saying, and I really don't lo...
Tbf TB procs are hella fun too
bitter palm
idk slayer is giga fun
junior oyster
I mean, they are, but something about slayer going apeshit in packs is fun, too
bitter palm
Been doing slayer til 4-piece like folks have been saying, and I really don't lo...
it only overtakes it in aoe
on st its very behind slayer
and prio
i think both have their place
junior oyster
I'd be pretty happy if they both held reasonable niches like that without one so badly eclipsing the other
frank dawn
for players with brains I do think Slayer can be very valuable to a group, just won't necesarilly look super amazing on meters
which is hard to overcome at "weekly keys" level
tender sky
Also not sold we can’t fill the prio role as slayer this tier, I’m absolutely ga...
this is a new idea i havent seen anywhere before
bitter palm
which is hard to overcome at "weekly keys" level
ngl i think slayer just beats thane at that level anyway
remote bobcat
yo @bitter palm all i did was cvhange the icon of your sd conditions weakaura to the execute icon and now im occasionally getting 43 days shown as a duration what is this
frank dawn
prob right tbh
bitter palm
unless thane high rolls perma
remote bobcat
any idea?
bitter palm
yo <@692035495718551564> all i did was cvhange the icon of your sd conditions we...
ye it does that sometimes when the target is below 20
fast grail
do we have a tab or anything for talent builds?
remote bobcat
ye it does that sometimes when the target is below 20
cringe
im js gonna turn off the duration shown
bitter palm
i never used duration anyway
it was just there kinda
im tracking everything anyway
kaching just tells me to look at my buffs and decide what to press
mint obsidian
what do we get?
mint obsidian
Tier Legs or 2h weapon?
dense fulcrum
@edgy widget do we have any news about the issue on raidbot with armory? i still can't sim stuff, cuz i can only use the armory method, because geforce now doesn't have raidbot addon
mint obsidian
u can get weapon from m+
drop?
bitter palm
Tier can use catalyst
yes but u want 4p
asap
u can get ur tier
then hold ur catalyst
until u get 1 more piece
echo rapids
4p is yuge
edgy widget
<@61282228017041408> do we have any news about the issue on raidbot with armory?...
I would suggest asking in the raidbots discord, but a somewhat long winded workaround would be to manually rebuild your gear profile in Top Gear
mint obsidian
4p warrior is good?
edgy widget
Save it as a text file, keep it updated as you get new items, etc. a bit tedious, but it would work
gray canyon
Which Hero Talent tree is best for Fury in dungeons?
frank dawn
slayer until you have 4pc, then you can kinda go either way based on if you want more aoe (thane) or more single target (slayer)
gray canyon
ty
flat river
i can use runed crests on hero gear right?
frank dawn
you can blow through 90 crests real quick
flat river
oki
echo rapids
Just hold it, use the tier as is
flat river
then what do i send 
echo rapids
Keep your flexibility open
flat river
you only want to upgrade from 701-704
ahhh i see
slim coral
cause then its max item level
slim coral
thats why you wanna farm 10s in m+
flat river
yeah that
uneven furnace
We stop using BT (RB instead) since we have 4P S3 or even with the 4P s2?
grizzled shard
do we no longer use the BT crit tracker weakaura only when we get full 4set manaforge?
winter shoal
Correct
uneven furnace
OOh okay. Thanks. I dropped BT a bit too soon then 
olive wraith
OOh okay. Thanks. I dropped BT a bit too soon then <:monkahmm:138259060043966475...
In aoe you’ll still use bt as slayer (6 targets)
fervent tundra
In aoe you’ll still use bt as slayer (6 targets)
So ST is RB full prio over BT?
gilded belfry
Hey, just retake on wow since few days.
Have 0p atm (4p df)
Best choice is shoulders ?
junior gale
Bruh what is my trinket luck this season
dense fulcrum
i got the dimensius one and eradicating...but is all champ xD
echo rapids
Hey, just retake on wow since few days.
Have 0p atm (4p df)
Best choice is sho...
I wouldn’t overthink it, take highest track tier
olive wraith
So ST is RB full prio over BT?
After 4p yes. You only by if there’s nothing else to press
flat river
Hey, just retake on wow since few days.
Have 0p atm (4p df)
Best choice is sho...
shoulder
cause its hero
restive peak
for players with brains I do think Slayer can be very valuable to a group, just ...
So it’s interesting, obviously we’re in 2pce mostly and under geared still, but so far I lose lust big packs and some massive pulls, but as the key is going higher I’m catching up across the pull and my prio target damage is 20-30% higher, and so is my boss damage
So I think for the groups that understand overall is a meme, slayer may actually be BETTER; let’s say for example we run brew, fury, feral, MM, rsham
restive peak
MM and feral lose a ton of prio/St, but crank huge packs
So we kind of fill the arcane mage role of last tier in that caster group
It could end up being that the thane AOE is still more valuable time wise, but there’s some potential maybe
warm crag
its good against pure patchwerk but theres only one fight like that in raid rn
kindred notch
its good against pure patchwerk but theres only one fight like that in raid rn
for raid good?>
warm crag
and the final two bosses dont fit that pattern shrug
frank dawn
It could end up being that the thane AOE is still more valuable time wise, but t...
Yeah I agree. The boss damage gonna be juicy, but is it enough? Idk lol
full bison
can you no longer SR the interrogation in streets anymore?
tried to earlier and its just jailed, old memory failing me?
restive peak
I mean when we get 4pce on slayer, our AOE sustains itself while lending to far better prio, it’s definitely not a for sure but once I get 4p tonight I’ll do a few as both and save the logs
sullen dove
w this guy
restive peak
Boss damage as slayer even with just 2 pce is fucking insane
Bro huge
A tank gave me cursed idol today, was so happy lol
sullen dove
prot kinda fun
warm crag
pogga
fervent tundra
A tank gave me cursed idol today, was so happy lol
Is cursed idol any good?
i got it hero track but no clue if it is worth?
modest condor
it's our best on use in m+
indigo arch
olive wraith
Oh no a company doing something to make money
restive peak
Yeah it’s very solid for m+
warm crag
i like the dinar part of turbo boosts
olive wraith
Gimme them heroic reshi boots
warm crag
i got them and hit a dummy for like 3 minutes and cloak did 10% of my damage
susge
how many boots are dropping per kill btw? our 30 man raid had 1-2 drop per kill
olive wraith
I saw 1 in my normal 20 man pug
warm crag
9 billion dps wtf
trim hound
One downside of Reshi wraps, charged a mob while my tank was gathering. Cloak procced. Got aggro and smacked half to death cuz he's a monk a jade spinning kick does nothing 
crude ridge
and we got the bis wep out of it
smoky vale
w this guy
that means you can feed me it now :3
warm crag
That’s overall friend
It says right there 9 Billion dps
warm crag
that's overall damage mate
Open eyes
crude ridge
ok now you're just trolling lol
warm crag
Caught
olive wraith
Human bis for streets?
onyx linden
so this updated execute wa for fury, basically uses execute everytime we have a proc? as far as i can see from the triggers
pulsar loom
Yo guys is 2+2 set better then S2 4 set?
pulsar loom
For m+
rain cloud
are u playing 2/2?
flat river
no rally?
crude ridge
it's trash in M+ most of the time
can be clutch sometimes
but idk i just don't find it worth
rain cloud
so u going 4 set s2¿?
sterile sigil
what are you guys using for belt? crit ?
crude ridge
that is 4pc S3
rain cloud
aaa ok ok
bitter palm
can you no longer SR the interrogation in streets anymore?
it was doable on ptr
bitter palm
you could idk i didnt do m+ on warr yet
smoky vale
you could idk i didnt do m+ on warr yet
can you do tw as 5 people if opposite factions?
cobalt horizon
Reckon it's worth turning this into tier to make 2 set?
olive wraith
Reckon it's worth turning this into tier to make 2 set?
Don’t spend cata for 2p
Save it for 4
tiny sleet
can the weekly quest boxes hold T peices?
crude ridge
can the weekly quest boxes hold T peices?
no
smoky vale
it works
bitter palm
thats new then
olive wraith
Think we had it all tww
hallow pecan
I'm still a tad confused on when we BT and Exec/SD over RB in AoE with slayer without set, any of you gentleman care to enlighten me? would be very very much appreciated cause I starting to get ashamed of the Details meters
olive wraith
5t with s2 set
hallow pecan
and without? already replaced old 4set with Hero pieces because it simmed better, I already heard we don't really care about bloodcraze anymore?
sick viper
fastest delve I can spam to +8?
lean heart
potent thicket
thane better?
thorny peak
.> we outta jail yet?
plush zephyr
im so proud of jastor diamond holding out strong against these rings ive been getting lmao
bold bear
should you only cata hero pieces for 4p?
thorny peak
wait u have m jastors?
restive peak
Yes
plush zephyr
wait u have m jastors?
nope 
olive wraith
thane better?
After 4p thane has a higher overall for keys
Better might be comp dependent
sour tundra
The amount of monkeys in keys so far is wild.
olive wraith
Is it just me or is streets just awful
restive peak
Streets is by far the hardest key this set
sour tundra
it's not hard people are just monkeys I literally had a pally in a +9 stand point blank on boss and didn't even attempt to move when he got targeted by the stun
insta died
junior gale
Streets is by far the hardest key this set
The timer feels a lil fucked
olive wraith
Are people still going left after first boss
thick fossil
The RnG of the last boss can be ass as well.
ionic portal
do I cast Bladestorm on cooldown or do I only cast it with 3 Imminent Demise stacks?
flat river
lapis shadow
thane better?
Thane funniee
bitter palm
Streets is by far the hardest key this set
havent done it on a 10 yet but
seems like its the timer
even in a 7 timer was tight
tbf it was a pug
tepid cedar
2p be pumpin in keys
steep fable
do we run 2pc+2pc or just ditch s2 gear entirely when we get 2 heroic pieces for s3?
steep fable
almost to 2k, so that is what I was thinking as well
sullen dove
hollow magnet
hey guys im coming back to warrior for the first time since legion. I thought from what people told me mountain thain was the go to for m+ but looking at logs its basically 50/50 between that and slayer. Im guessing slayer is just better boss and prio damage?
hollow magnet
oh really, I only have 2 piece so I should def swap over
iron holly
do we want oathsworn on both weapons or oath on one and stormrider on the other?
winter shoal
Sim but probably don't want two of the same stat procs
hardy cargo
winter shoal
Nope was like that before too
graceful elk
Anyone have a good platter they use?
olive wraith
Quazi
ionic ermine
Quazii js GOAT
ionic ermine
These old eyes need those big bright colors and high contrast XD
ionic ermine
That does look nice. Might give it a try and see how I like it compared to Quazii’s
earnest canyon
Liquid actually need a warr for splits, gogogo
spare steppe
That does look nice. Might give it a try and see how I like it compared to Quaz...
jundies is always amazing
signal steeple
Is there a good way to troubleshoot suddenly performing worse for no reason? Yesterday I was simming 3.2m and doing 2.84m on the target dummy. Today I'm simming 3.56m and doing 2.43m on the target dummy. Same ping, addons are up to date, no FPS drops...
iron portal
Did you try to turn yourself off and on again?
signal steeple
No brb
earnest canyon
Some new trinket that sims in a perfect scenario? Breaking 4 piece?
signal steeple
I now have 2 piece season 2 and 2 piece season 3, but this setup was the top gear sim for me
earnest canyon
As thane?
signal steeple
As slayer
earnest canyon
Idk then sorry
signal steeple
np
chilly fractal
Hoping for some Zenith tonight folks
And/or weapons still haven’t gotten a weapon out of M+ yet
chrome wraith
boys what are we running in raid?
chrome wraith
drop the build king
whole remnant
bitter palm
ok
whole remnant
Glass shard stuck in my foot now
signal steeple
drop the build king
CgEArbixk/ZKwTdpZGVHeylmLAAAAAAAAAQjhZmNzMMjBzswMzMmhZYmttxYmZWwMmZmxMzsMM8AmZAAAQM22GYBMBzwEYwGA
winter shoal
Wait to get a 701 trinket from M+ so you can upgrade it without using crests
But then yes probably
Well you'll need two 701 trinkets
signal steeple
Trinket sources: high m+, delve vault, raid and m+ vault, mythic/heroic raid. Lots of ways to get a better version without spending extra crests
north sky
I figured champs good, and atennae is a cracked trink
north sky
yeah guess Ill jun run M+ until I get 701
torn mauve
is there any downside to craft 2h right away this week?
north sky
Can we do that, thought we didnt have sparks?
olive wraith
You would get banned
modest condor
that does sound like a big downside
olive wraith
Next week. No downside really
chrome wraith
if i still have D.I.S.C what do i use for ST? returning player
spare steppe
anyone know have the WA for the execute caching?
chrome wraith
i have all mods
torn mauve
arent we getting a 2nd full spark this week? oh, my bad then
north sky
What should I spending runed on right now?
olive wraith
I’m holding runes
torn mauve
i see, thought they changed it for this season that we have alrdy 2 full sparks at 2nd week. nvm then, thanks though
olive wraith
Early in the season it’s relatively easier to farm higher ilvl gear
north sky
if I have hero track tiersets
I assuming im not replacing those
unless I get myth track gear ig?
olive wraith
I’d hold it for trinks
north sky
but wasn't I just told to wait until I got 2 701 trinkets to not use crests on them either
😕
olive wraith
I think wep>trinks>big stat items are the prio for spending crests on
Its the first week we don’t have a lot of crests
olive wraith
You can max adventurer gear
Those crests become irrelevant super quick
Runed and higher I would be cautious with
north sky
are valorstones plentiful
jagged ledge
my weps are fucking adventurer tier
if you did the horrific visions just go get yourself some free veteran track weapons
olive wraith
my weps are fucking adventurer tier
What ilvl does adv cap at
north sky
678
north sky
ill just max em and pray
feral ivy
for forgeweaver anyone know in plater how to show the energy bar on the towers?
obtuse palm
Someone can share a marked for execution WA? for some reason it doesn't work and I tried to find one and I'm in raid atm lol
winter shoal
Cheeky r1 fractillus (very real)
left heart
quick question where can i find the execute weakaura everyone is talking about?
winter shoal
quick question where can i find the execute weakaura everyone is talking about?
Or this one #fury message
left heart
TY
winter shoal
analyzing your rotation rq to improve my log
very skill yes
compact reef
Hi guys is our execute phase a thing or does not improve our dps by too much?
winter shoal
analyzing your rotation rq to improve my log
Wowanalyzer is updated for 11.2 though if you need to review your logs 🙂
winter shoal
Hi guys is our execute phase a thing or does not improve our dps by too much?
Very small dps increase
compact reef
Very small dps increase
And for arms?
gilded pawn
Hi guys is our execute phase a thing or does not improve our dps by too much?
it’s some
Not a lot
Bloodthirst executes are ok
winter shoal
Bloodthirst executes are ok
You don't play VC anymore
compact reef
How ahead is fury from arms on Keys right now? 5 10%? St aoe
winter shoal
Only difference is a small change in exe conditions
winter shoal
How ahead is fury from arms on Keys right now? 5 10%? St aoe
That's a very difficult question to answer bc it depends on route, group comp, etc
Colossus arms will do more uncapped aoe
Fury will do more low target aoe and much more boss dam
compact reef
Fury will do more low target aoe and much more boss dam
Fury st from m+ build is middle of the pack or a good single target dmg actually?
winter shoal
Very good single target as far as M+ specs go
winter shoal
Probably only lower than fdk and maybe demo lock
winter shoal
yeah it's like 100k dps diff between exe range and outside exe range
compact reef
Probably only lower than fdk and maybe demo lock
Amazing and that while doing a good 5 target aoe dmg right
winter shoal
Amazing and that while doing a good 5 target aoe dmg right
Yeah but you'll still probably lose to some classes on 5 targets
compact reef
I saw critcake pumping some bosses on m+
compact reef
And which one has better st? Thane or slayer
winter shoal
Slayer, but you fall further behind in aoe as more targets are added
compact reef
Thane is pretty good in M+ once you have 4p
Thanks a lot buddy u answered my dumb questions
crude ridge
this pugs mang
feral ivy
how yall doing with the forgeweaver heroic boss??
winter shoal
Fun fight
olive wraith
Cheeky r1 fractillus (very real)
Wrecking throw?
winter shoal
Ne
feral ivy
doing it now we got 9% on the end phase
winter shoal
I have never pressed wrecking throw in my life
feral ivy
where u using wrecking throw? if u have it?
stiff kettle
Hi, I got soleah's, is there an addon that lets you easily track the highest secondary stat of people in your group?
winter shoal
Yeah true
signal steeple
if i still have D.I.S.C what do i use for ST? returning player
Critical overload sims 12k over other options for me. They're fairly close
signal steeple
yes
signal steeple
I had 12 bladestorms and 11 recklessness in a 6:08 loomithar, 51% uptime on reck
silent gazelle
bloodthirst sucks
winter shoal
whats the avg cooldown of bladestorm
20-30s
olive wraith
bloodthirst sucks
For slayer ya
restive peak
If I end up cooking this slayer M+ thing and end up right, you gotta admit bladestorming every 20-30s feels fucking badass
and we're all gonna miss it when we swap thane a bit
winter shoal
Nah I'm a clapper all day
Slayer abilities got buffed, thane did not
Thane 4p is very good but its 2p is only okay, slayer 2p is very good and its 4p is pretty good
So slayer is generally better until you have 4p
winter shoal
It's how slayer should've always been
WOuldn't be surprised if they make current 2p a hero talent for slayer next expac
thick fossil
It's better, but I don't think I'd say it hits that dopamine button.
thick fossil
That's not a high bar....
restive peak
We just kinda knew the entire reason thane is going to be better was the thane 4p
thick fossil
Yeah
restive peak
And that doesn't make me wrong Osa 😉
upbeat plume
so are our bis trinkets actually Eradicating and Screams cause Astral Antenna isnt simming higher then those for me
thick fossil
I might have 4 pc after we hand out tier at end of raid.
restive peak
If I get gloves or helm from an m10 I have 4pce
upbeat plume
Ill have it as a soon as I can get some pants from m+
restive peak
I'm so impatient
thick fossil
I have the M10 items, and a Catalyst ready. I just need to find out if I can get the hands or pants token.
thick fossil
not a fan of Fractallus
restive peak
He's too easily WA'd
thick fossil
that son a bitch is boring as fuck.
thick fossil
I think I like Loomy the best so far.
restive peak
I think mythic dimensius is gonna be insane
pallid barn
Is it kinda like bloodthirst is what you wanna press more of for thane with 4p and raging blow for slayer?
olive wraith
Pretty much
olive wraith
Only have 2p but man the chains of kachings I get for execute is crazy
feral ivy
wouldnt thane be better for DH bosses?
restive peak
Right
Fuckin loving it
We theorized it may be, but Archi said he couldn't consistently hit all 4
3*
So slayer was prob better, maybe even arms w SS
feral ivy
i love/hate the fight
winter shoal
wouldnt thane be better for DH bosses?
I kinda piped ya
restive peak
Oh yeah Big went in and giga fucked them as thane w 4p though
restive peak
You think it was above 4p slayer w RB proccing reaps though?
winter shoal
Nevermind that that guy is like top 10 aff lock in the world
restive peak
Also WTF LMAO
winter shoal
He only has 2p btw
restive peak
That's fucked
feral ivy
was that as thane bowl?
winter shoal
Yeah 4p thane
spare steppe
use catalyst to get heroic 2p? didnt get 2p from raid/vault and have heroic chest 🙁
restive peak
I'll do it as slayer with 4p and I'm only like 15% worse than Big
olive wraith
use catalyst to get heroic 2p? didnt get 2p from raid/vault and have heroic ches...
No
restive peak
So you can give me 15% and compare
winter shoal
I'll do it as slayer with 4p and I'm only like 15% worse than Big
aw shucks
Idk slayer vs thane on 3t is probably similar
restive peak
Ye I wanna try it
winter shoal
But the TC aoe is very powerful
spare steppe
well shit good to know
winter shoal
I'm kinda giving salhadaar the business rn ngl
spare steppe
thanks folks
brittle crow
how do i stop getting punched by dimensius
restive peak
How is that fight?
olive wraith
Do we think powerful enrage might be better for slayer
winter shoal
how do i stop getting punched by dimensius
Get better tanks
restive peak
This is the worst part of a 2 day
olive wraith
With how many bs we are spitting
thick fossil
no shot, we're certainly not drawing any ire from how much dps we're doing.
winter shoal
How is that fight?
Very cool I like it a lot, we just need to figure out the ring/star phase
restive peak
Yeah that part looks pretty wild
olive wraith
Dimensius flying phase looks so sick
brittle crow
Get better tanks
tanks stand in the middle?
winter shoal
tanks stand in the middle?
If your tanks are outside of his melee range, he'll punch a melee
wheat oyster
tilted, my net died in lfr last night and it progged all bosses without me getting to roll
brazen mica
Hello, any one knows if sims for Screams of a forgotten sky (Dimensius's trinket) is right? Or is it counting the death proc?
winter shoal
I don't think it has the death proc in sims
uneven schooner
hey so i simmed Slayer vs MT with 2pc and MT actually is ahead. am i good to just play MT in keys?
i dont have tier from the previous season
restive peak
You're just a late bloomer big dog it happens
chilly fractal
thanks bro
you know I appreciate that
I did get heroic boots off the demon hunter boss tho
so that's something
restive peak
Yo that's legit BIS and could go weeks without
No tier these week = guaranteed next week
Boots aint ever guaranteed
uneven schooner
wholesome 🙂
restive peak
We're far more homies than not around here
chilly fractal
hell yea
uneven schooner
any ideas on my question above bros?
restive peak
AOE sims are unreliable
uneven schooner
just gotta test it i guess
restive peak
But honestly the content we're doing doesn't need perfect optimizing
I'd say play what you prefer until there's a big, clear cut difference
restive peak
Ye that's so close I would just play the 1 you prefer
uneven schooner
sounds good
winter shoal
F U C K warlocks
uneven schooner
what kind of tank?
restive peak
Warlocks are giga busted dude
uneven schooner
if they had dh you were fighting an uphill battle
earnest canyon
I did a mythic floodgates earler on my 680 hunter and did 4mil with no s3 tier and shit trinkets. Frost dk with 710 wep did 7mil.thats overall
tepid cedar
yeas
restive peak
We're gonna climb to like 10-12s this season by the end I think
feral ivy
fract boss is a joke with the WA
tepid cedar
im almsot at 3k io. but stopped puyshing for abit
trying to get neck and shoulder from hoa
restive peak
Ye that boss being so easily WA'd is a let down
Hopefully a tight check on mythic
And ye I need gloves or helm for 4pc
tepid cedar
well i want normal gloves and shoulder, im ditching s2
we finally raid friday so il have 4p then
feral ivy
tbf if we didnt have the WA it will be hardest boss imo
toxic jewel
😄
feral ivy
niceeee
thick fossil
You have a shit load better luck than I have.
restive peak
Bazed how many m0s have you done
brittle crow
needed 1 tier piece from normal to get 4pc this week
and the entirety of normal didnt drop a single plate tier token
gonna kms
restive peak
Hit LFR bro
bronze badge
Any warriors with 4 piece have logs they can link me
frozen berry
Is there a new S3 dungeon WA or does the S2 one still do the job?
torpid sand
lets nerf warrior
olive wraith
This doesn’t show much
winter shoal
That screenshot looks more like the hunter and dk are afk
olive wraith
7m after a pull?
rose bay
Doing dgns with 2 uncapped dps and mass pulls is that kidna generational damage that lands you in a text book
fathom flax
which weapon enchant is best is authority of the depths the way to go?
winter shoal
which weapon enchant is best is authority of the depths the way to go?
Sim it
slim coral
Bazed how many m0s have you done
I did 8
formal verge
Hey! which talent do you drop to get wrecking throw?
formal verge
Second wind and bounding
doesn't work - you don't have enough points to reach those
slim coral
More like Tmog check bruh wtf is that
Not gonna sit here and mog during raid that’s crazy
junior gale
what else are you supposed to do during trash
winter shoal
honed reflexes
formal verge
oh lol - I'm an idiot - thanks!
languid sage
Hey guys. Just killed H Forgeweaver Araz and my numbers were big doodoo. I know it's probably just "git gud" but I tried looking at the top parsing warriors on the fight to try to figure out what I'm doing wrong and I'm kind of at a loss. Was hoping someone could take a look at my log and help me figure it out
winter shoal
I can take a look, you can also post in #1347646810457636974
Also in general, you can just ask your question, you don't need to ask if you can ask
runic violet
Is anyone running M+ with slayer?
winter shoal
Yeah lots of people
runic violet
It feels good in hand... not sure the dmg is higher
winter shoal
It probably is if you don't have 4p
languid sage
Also in general, you can just ask your question, you don't need to ask if you ca...
Sorry for that. Here's the log: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Pkpmxrd3ZBaC7D2X?fight=34&type=damage-done&source=563
runic violet
I'm still with S2 4pc
I do have S3 2pc... but not sure if i should switch to 2+2
nvm.. i don't lol
don't want to use crystal yet
winter shoal
Sorry for that. Here's the log: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Pkpmxrd3ZB...
I have identified your problem
languid sage
I was using that on a previous attempt, but the top 3 fury warrs on that fight weren't using it
gloomy vale
are you guys breaking last tiers 4set for 2p+2p?
winter shoal
are you guys breaking last tiers 4set for 2p+2p?
Probably, sim it
winter shoal
I was using that on a previous attempt, but the top 3 fury warrs on that fight w...
You're missing some damage on boss for sure, which is probably another thing to investigate, but compare your damage per target to mine and Gillneas'
We're both doing 1-1.5m more dps than you just to the small orbs (manifestations)
And much of that is from cleaved damage from imp ww (and reap, which procs more with ww-cleaved BTs)
languid sage
Would just running imp ww make up that much of a DPS difference?
winter shoal
It would make a massive difference, but like I said you're also ~600k behind on boss damage, so there's probably more going on
From looking at wowanalyzer it seems like you're overusing execute - do you have the updated weakaura for that?
quiet breach
sent my catalysts for 4pc
after thinking about this for HOURS
i think the short term play is worth for me
junior gale
signal steeple
Wouldn't personally use catalyst below hero but if it makes sense for you send it
quiet breach
I used them on hero
signal steeple
Gamer
quiet breach
the question is whether to wait for tuesday
which i decided not to
cant wait to game on keys with this thane 4pc
winter shoal
Would just running imp ww make up that much of a DPS difference?
It also looks like you guys lusted a random time instead of in the damage amp and it cost you badly - you did 5.8m dps during your 6:00 avatar, where Gillneas did over 9m
And fwiw most of that is padding on the last phase adds which don't even matter anyways
If you take out the 6:30 reck+BS, you're only doing 4m dps
For comparison, he's doing almost 10m from 6:01-6:28
brittle crow
how much does gear matter for ur parse
does me being decked out in last season prot gear explain why i parse 75 instead of 100
signal steeple
I also planked Araz BADLY. 12 parse when I was alive the whole fight lmao
spare steppe
From looking at wowanalyzer it seems like you're overusing execute - do you have...
What’s the WA?
winter shoal
What’s the WA?
exe/sd conditions wa #1237307732705415228 message
winter shoal
I also made my own that I of course prefer because it's built for my UI #fury message
Either work
Cone's kachings, mine doesn't
quiet breach
I am gonna alter bigbowl's to kaching i can send that if u prefer it
winter shoal
Mine displays AJ/SD duration over top and has different color glow conditions for different APL lines, Cone's does not
quiet breach
about to do it
spare steppe
6T?
winter shoal
You'll be pressing a lot more exes though so you'll have fewer globals to BT anyways
Uhh idk if anyone ran sims for a 2p-specific APL
It's probably like 4t or some shit
spare steppe
Been playing slayer in keys so learning to use BT better
winter shoal
Was 2t before, 6+ with 4pc
Somewhere in there
Doesn't matter a ton, exe conditions > ramp > filler
Fill with BT over RB in aoe until 4p
(as slayer)
spare steppe
Yup
winter shoal
Counting targets is for nerds
tepid lily
streets +10
died at the end smh
gotta keep up the 5 stack from juggernaut
annoying but yeah
winter shoal
CSHB gets better the more targets there are
tepid lily
2pc2pc btw
winter shoal
And AJ is good but so is HnS, there are certainly better talents to drop to get it
tepid lily
yeah
quiet breach
hitting dummy with ur thing, theres a green timer up top and a blue timer on bottom, what is that
@winter shoal
winter shoal
@tepid lily you should play something like this for aoe
winter shoal
hitting dummy with ur thing, theres a green timer up top and a blue timer on bot...
I challenge you to read the weakaura description
quiet breach
oh shit mb
molten wing
it won't matter in the long run for m+ , since you will probably just switch to thane asap after you get 4p
winter shoal
Idk slayer could have some sauce in certain dungeons/group comps
sinful spoke
getting declined from +5 halls 💔 🥀
winter shoal
Slayer boss damage is nutty
lean nacelle
Is VC worth dropping even without 4pc?
olive wraith
Oh? You dropping VC with 2p?
quiet breach
I challenge you to read the weakaura description
Looking at the rotation the breakpoint for the super high prio execute is 2x MFE not 3, is there a reason u have it track 3?
or is this just an old description
that hasnt been updated
winter shoal
It used to be 3 and I cba changing it
olive wraith
<@383075593165733928> you should play something like this for aoe
What about crit nodes over haste. More rb dmg might be worth lost 2% haste
winter shoal
You press exe when wa glows
The color of the glow is just extra information about why it's glowing
(so that you can do things like milk AJ duration if you want)
winter shoal
What about crit nodes over haste. More rb dmg might be worth lost 2% haste
Sim it but probably not
I think early in PTR xan was convinced that spear + the crit nodes was the sauce
And then sims said it was shite
olive wraith
Hmm low key surprising
winter shoal
I mean it's worth checking
wouldn't take more than a minute to verify
It'll likely also depend on your specific gear and everything as always
olive wraith
I feel like I have kind of a lot of haste rn
Might just be sacbrood procs plus affix going off though
winter shoal
IIRC the haste from talents is a % amount no?
So it would actually be better the more haste you had?
Is that right idk
olive wraith
Fair
mystic kayak
For Salhadaar, are you guys keeping WW buff up when its just Salhadaar and the dragon on platform?
olive wraith
Yes it’s better to use a global in 2 targets to keep meat cleaver up
winter shoal
Yes
You can think of it like that ww is doing 260% of the damage the other buttons you're pressing would
The only thing higher prio would be if you have exactly 1 gcd left to maintain AJ
And like BS and roar and all that ofc
But in terms of regular abilities
quiet breach
is there now barely a difference pressing WW as a filler instead of thunderclap as thane?
now that ww is buffed 500000 times
olive wraith
Not sure it would make a significant difference tbh
olive wraith
Dimensius and loom both suck
pulsar quest
its actually criminally small
quiet breach
its actually criminally small
yeah is annoying af
mystic kayak
But in terms of regular abilities
Thanks! furthermore, when dragon is up are you guys prioing the dragon then and just cleaving salhadaar?
Or vice versa
pulsar quest
and im getting parried
like
left and right
you cant even hit the boss or the add during the soak
im cringing
olive wraith
Just get the extended melee talent 
tepid lily
<@383075593165733928> you should play something like this for aoe
why remove VC 
pulsar quest
after 2p
tepid lily
yeah after 2p ig
olive wraith
^ ya sorry, that was the context for the above talents
pulsar quest
🙂
olive wraith
?
tepid lily
for 1% mastery
olive wraith
Deft also extends enrage
tepid lily
lol but enrage it's not an issue in any kind of fight
sinful spoke
m
sullen dove
I think I like Loomy the best so far.
that shit sucks
obnoxious ass area denial
last phase annoying as shit
first is ok
fading sky
All run powerfull now?
sullen dove
500 thousand swirlies every 5 seconds blanketing the entire floor trapping you between webs and ichor
frontal covers half the room for no reason
why is infinite stars trinket broken into 3 diff things
aint anshuul the one from sark
young swan
why is infinite stars trinket broken into 3 diff things
4 even
sullen dove
yea 4th one was like 10mil dmg
young swan
abyssal implosion is also screams
sullen dove
well just under the last one
yea that reads like the aoe portion
which i doubt procced much on soulbinder
but like what is the other 3 shits
young swan
but like what is the other 3 shits
genuinely no idea
sullen dove
idk where the second scream of forgotten went
pulsar quest
im gonna scream i just get parried nonstop