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#fury
sullen dove
S3 DF TIER
THANK YOU
avatar makes next however many abilities of rb/bt/whatever else do 300% whatever more damage to primary target
feelsgoodman burst
tho that should just be reck abandon
cuz it is horrendously dogshit currently
ah yes bb bleed
so powerful
(fucking useless)
good redesign
woven valley
S3 DF TIER
Yeah 👍 s3 DF was amazing, I want double odyns with a 20 second cd
upbeat plume
to many people complained about the set bonus cause it required more then .5 brain cells so we had to suffer through a 2nd s2 tier set bonus lol
sullen dove
which is crazy cuz s3 was 0 braincells as well
woven valley
I kept saying s2 was throwing and everyone said I was wrong
Not everyone but a huge amount of people
sullen dove
you hit your cooldown and your next several spells do way more damage
that just feels good
on any class
sinful spoke
the plus y
sinful spoke
i dont use that shit tho
woven valley
But yeah they should just make spear and roar into one abilty, call it serrated chains or something
dapper goblet
blizzard already did that
woven valley
Then put a more single target focused abilty in roars spot
dapper goblet
also not my problem
dapper goblet
smoky vale
anyone know what this thing is
search for find self
edgy widget
Blizz confirmed a year ago that there wouldn't be a fated season
next jacinth
Did they say anything on what they are doing for season 4, if there is one?
edgy widget
yeah it's called WoW: Midnight
brave thorn
Who snitched on mechano-core amplifier 😡
sullen dove
paglephile
next jacinth
Oh wow. Nice.
sullen dove
Who snitched on mechano-core amplifier 😡
😭
mystic kayak
Anyone know why when I type /simc it doesn't even let me press enter? Message just doesn't send at all so I can't sim.
mystic kayak
certainly not
dapper goblet
paglephile
unironically
sinful spoke
anyways my farm is clear for tomorrow
mystic kayak
This is an error I see? Not really wsure wtf I'm looking at tbh
rancid ledge
Anyone know why when I type /simc it doesn't even let me press enter? Message ju...
tab out tab back in
mystic kayak
yeah doesn't work
i can send messages
but when i type /simc specifically
I can't hit enter
It just won't send the message
rancid ledge
i had this for specific letters
mystic kayak
the bug error clearly mentions an issue with "ChatEdit_OnEnterPressed"
but idk how to fix this
Idk what to resolve
plush zephyr
Try with add ons off?
sharp cargo
sullen dove
why does 500 strength and 100 more secondaries not outweigh 1 duskthread 
quiet breach
if we take our item out of the vault b4 doing any m+ it will force a +2 key into our inventory correct?
olive wraith
It should
quiet breach
so the strat is to join a higher key if you are able
like say join a +8
and get the key from that right?
olive wraith
I think you’d get a +2 regardless
sullen dove
idr if they made a change like that
thought it was u get a key 1 lower than one you either do or time
but thats only like once first week of the season i think
olive wraith
thought it was u get a key 1 lower than one you either do or time
I was under the impression that goes into your vault for the week after
I guess we’ll see. I don’t see an issue pushing a few keys for crests
steep fable
We can drop the BT crit tracker WA as soon as we drop the S2 4pc?
olive wraith
We can drop the BT crit tracker WA as soon as we drop the S2 4pc?
I’m leaning towards probably not. The 4p might be the thing that pushes rb higher than the 100% crit bt
I’m no sim wizard though
hallow sphinx
sinful spoke
We can drop the BT crit tracker WA as soon as we drop the S2 4pc?
Its not gone from my wa so bo
No*
sullen dove
junior gale
steep fable
OK, was thinking that having the s2 4pc BT benefit drop would make BT lower prio....but that math is beyond my pay grade....which is zero
So keep the WA for 2 or 3 more weeks
olive wraith
Can’t hurt
steep fable
Also, I just noticed we are rolling against monks, rogues and evokers for tier tokens 
smoky vale
will you be pllaying deathwheels
steep fable
the DK, DH, Lock token is gonna be a bloodbath...lol
olive wraith
At least we don’t have pally, Druid, hunter, mage in our tokens
Our token is pretty chill
steep fable
At least we don’t have pally, Druid, hunter, mage in our tokens
that too 🤣
hallow sphinx
will you be pllaying deathwheels
no
smoky vale
hallow sphinx
why would I
smoky vale
are you excited to play another tier of bfa
olive wraith
Are you excited for another Taylor swift album
quiet breach
just ran some droptimisers
it seems the eradicating arcanocore sims higher than the loom trinket
and the tickling sack trinket from tasavesh is bis for me
sudden tusk
smorbsmish angers
sullen dove
sudden tusk
sudden tusk
eh they just blew up all the delve trinkets
sullen dove
yea i mean still some guaranteed normal pieces but maybe not even that good shit caps at 691 its just m0 gear yea
sudden tusk
and you can only get 1 her oper week anyway so its nothin
sullen dove
surely can ignore them
sudden tusk
i only do 1 per week for rep/ free coins
quiet breach
i dont think it even matters right
cuz i can get more next week
and use those
can only use 3 per week right?
sudden tusk
T11 delves once per week give good crests for alts i think as well
sullen dove
yea i got my shit rocked on evoker by t8 tho
so kind of like get carried by group angle or blow up
but also delves in a group is horrific
like a 4man last season elites had 500mil hp and boss had like 1.5b
maybe that was t11
but eugh
sudden tusk
idk i was told by a lot of casuals that dps are supposed to use healer brann
sullen dove
i think u were there tbh
sudden tusk
but you just die
sullen dove
yea i mean tanky dps healer brann is cool u just pick up some pots
like extra impending victories
sudden tusk
like you strait up die to white swings
sullen dove
but idk he is not consistent enough for an evoker that gets 3shot
they pmuch have to die before they touch me or i use every defensive
sudden tusk
i dont care if tank brann does no damage but he should be tanky as shit
marble pilot
I just delve as prot with dps brann. Big pulls and brann does decent dps
sudden tusk
mainly for alts without a tank spec
tank makes it a joke
but my rogue gets oblitorated
marble pilot
Yeah If I do em on my evoker I go healer brann and I dps em
Gotta go pack by pack but it isnt too bad.
proven stream
We're replacing s2 tier with hero non tier right
molten wing
We're replacing s2 tier with hero non tier right
sims will tell you
sullen dove
<@593536556472729602> have fun 2morro gn
ty i will not
sudden tusk
: (
sullen dove
olive wraith
We're replacing s2 tier with hero non tier right
Most likely
Set was ass. Just sim to confirm
vague copper
Team I need help, I have mained Warior (dps) for every X-pack/season since forever.. Now I gonna turn fotm as my playtime is limited.. I have a team of 3-4 guys to play with but it aint all the time I can play when they can so... I want a dpsclass that don't have to sit for 2 hours in queue.. So what would be the safest go for now between.... MM-hunter (dont like BM).. WW monk, DK, Enh-shamy or warrior ( I know it wont be war but its there!!)
M+
teal swift
You're never getting an invite as WW
vague copper
Yeah and its sad.. WW is fun 🙂
keen turret
DK is considered currently top tier dps, brings brez and grips. MM-hunter and enh shaman brings bloodlust, which in my experience pretty often gets you the last dps spot when the forming group realizes they are missing it. I'd say hunter.
olive wraith
Enh is down bad though
proven stream
Set was ass. Just sim to confirm
Yeah I will, just busy at work atm and I saw critcake mentioned to replace tier in his vid
upbeat plume
Blizz confirmed a year ago that there wouldn't be a fated season
Oh damn I'm out-of the loop then thank you lol
heavy nacelle
target dummy sim is unbuffed, patchwerk includes all raid buffs and lust (you probably have them selected) so your dps seems fine to me, higher than the dummy sim because you're also executing
quiet breach
Team I need help, I have mained Warior (dps) for every X-pack/season since forev...
dk
heavy nacelle
so you didnt do it natty, you used performance enhancing drugs
mossy pelican
true
wheat oyster
85 pulls weeee
How long was your kill time
mossy pelican
lavish sierra
i just want to get gud and get more gear. 8 minutes seems like a short time
mossy pelican
2.27m dps it's annoying because i basically have to stop rotation to focus on clone guys
the stabby ones
lavish sierra
what ilevel and spec?
mossy pelican
687 fury
lavish sierra
er sorry meant like, hero talents
mossy pelican
oh word just single target slayer
storm birch
Mine ended up being 7 min 37 sec but when brann died i panicked big time lol
storm birch
yea he's someting else
warped bone
Anybody else having a smol issue with these guys? Dustback burrower
Only these abilites does dmg to it
real pond
fossil orbit
U can fit one reck between the avatars thanks to execute reducing the cd on reck
olive wraith
U can fit one reck between the avatars thanks to execute reducing the cd on reck
Exe doesn’t do that
fossil orbit
Sry, spending rage reduceses the cd on reck and bs
olive wraith
Ye
Don’t worry about aligning
Activating rek gives you avatar
And activating avatar gives you rek
So it’s no biggy that they don’t sync
prime crystal
grave lantern
Is the tooltip fucked or does being in reck actually increase roar tar cap?
^ in reck
grave lantern
how can i test is there a more than 5 dummy?
flat river
that is true
brave thorn
Rookery normal
mossy pelican
64
wheat oyster
ok damn
mossy pelican
i have no idea how that compares
wheat oyster
im a bit lower on ilvl but idk if it's worth throwing crests yet
neither tbh, im 677 with level 53 brann
i think my best attempt was like 5 minutes with her at 35% so it's somewhat on track
pearl sequoia
im a bit lower on ilvl but idk if it's worth throwing crests yet
you can use the crests this week
wheat oyster
you can use the crests this week
yea i just did
quiet breach
why do we not use the 45 second CD thunderous roar talent in multi target anymore?
warped bone
I don't think Brann scales past 70 currently. I notice no dif from his dmg at 70 to lvl 91 at least
Perhaps he will when season starts. Or it's just not noticable at all
fading sky
why do we not use the 45 second CD thunderous roar talent in multi target anymor...
In raid?
quiet breach
yeah
fading sky
Because roar is horrible
quiet breach
we used it last tier
fading sky
Dmg profile flat
quiet breach
what changed
fading sky
Rb amd execute power in tier id guess
Passive note better
Look at st
Prio of roar
Its above ww thats it🤣
olive wraith
Madox was looking at the sim. Roar was used once, almost 4 mins into the fight
fluid cosmos
Probably it's just points
spear needs 2 points to be good, and the passive talents are more powerful than spear for st
heavy nacelle
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
quiet breach
oh just looked at wowhead the rotation section is updated
I notice there's no "s3 4 PC" tab, does this mean this is our rotation regardless of whether we have no tier set bonuses or not?
or should I do old rotation until I have new tier set
cobalt relic
pine gust
Am probably gonna be on tank duty anyway since pwar is stronk
potent thicket
we escaped the last min nerfs !
flat river
Am probably gonna be on tank duty anyway since pwar is stronk
im stronk
flat river
real
surreal token
do we get a cap of 90 or 180 on runed/gilded next week?
quasi gorge
potent thicket
how to get a shield and 1h quick
vivid slate
anyone got a nice slayer build without t-set ?
pine gust
how to get a shield and 1h quick
craft?
molten wing
how to get a shield and 1h quick
craft or just buy the 642 from AH and upgrade it to some decent ilvl
high sedge
do we wait for the second spark to craft a 2H or there is another option?
radiant plank
wait
high sedge
aight
fading sky
craft or just buy the 642 from AH and upgrade it to some decent ilvl
5mask runs?
primal plover
any reason we cant drop deft experience to get critical thinking now we dont really like BT basically ever CSHB and Bcraze seem completely wasted surely we can pick up 2/2 critical thjinking for RB dmg
storm birch
any reason we cant drop deft experience to get critical thinking now we dont rea...
No DE tends to have you drop enrage during bladestorm pretty often I believe
primal plover
roger thats so gay
storm birch
Yea it’s annoying but the mastery isn’t horrible either so win win. But terrible feeling when enrage falls off mid BS. Plus you want to get slaughtering strikes stacks after your bladestorm to empower your rampage but if you aren’t enraged you’re forced to rampage immediately
fading sky
Its prob coz of the bladestprm thing ngl sim wise
pure breach
We play spear now as MT m+ instead of roar?
fading sky
Y
Not big difference u can prob roar if u prefer
Spear is nice with new tirr though
primal plover
ive tested it ingame about 5 times now and enrage hasnt dropped once buuuutttttt doesnt allow for any brutal finish rb's to stack up slaughtering before the rampage you basically have to immediately rampage again which yea thats cooked
DE it is
quiet breach
how to get a shield and 1h quick
craft 675 ones with weathered crests
doesn't cost spark
pure breach
Not big difference u can prob roar if u prefer
I rather pref play with roar 😅
fading sky
I doubt u will with new tier
Spear into our softcapped dmg rocks
🤣
We prob runnin pace + stone idol in dungeons? At least unless.ya a raider , so 2 x crit trinkets
Spear is more dopamine
fading sky
But m8, dmg between spear and roar wont break a key
Our cds are crap🤣
Play what u want. But its a loss how minor i dno. U must sim i guess
molten wing
Spear into ravager into those Thane claps will be pretty bonkers probably , but you can also just play roar where you press it and don't think about anything else
pure breach
Eventually will end up swapping to spear yeah
fading sky
U wont until 4p season 3. Anyways
molten wing
also in raid if we are there to blast aoe/adds , the buffed bladestorm with spear is probably gonna 
fading sky
But i find spear more interactive
fading sky
also in raid if we are there to blast aoe/adds , the buffed bladestorm with spea...
We play roar no capstone talents in aoe😅
pure breach
U wont until 4p season 3. Anyways
Alright so until then roar it is
fading sky
So no slayer dont want spear
pure breach
xD
fading sky
Last i checked
undone flower
I would use spear bc of the root
plush maple
What does our lord and savior, 10 year veteran of the United States marine corps say about which to use?
radiant plank
Spear
undone flower
The US sends 10 year olds to war ?
plush maple
Coming soon ™
sturdy crown
The US sends 10 year olds to war ?
their president is a pedophile, no way he'd send them away from him
the only place he'd send em to is Epstein Island
undone flower
wow I didn’t expect 200km/h boost into political conspiracy theory
sturdy crown
wow I didn’t expect 200km/h boost into political conspiracy theory
conspiracy? You mean obvious truth.
south kayak
Did they do something with the CD manager
Seems actually useable for the specs I've tried it on this patch
vernal laurel
Guys, is there some kind of Raidbot sim for Raid? That is not outdated.
radiant plank
weekly is
vagrant mica
their president is a pedophile, no way he'd send them away from him
Ah yes, natural conversational progression in the fury channel
vagrant mica
The US sends 10 year olds to war ?
Amazing interpretation though
undone flower
Amazing interpretation though
I like to take things wrong purposely 
vagrant mica
Le epic trolle
undone flower
Im a huge fan of wordplays
vagrant mica
Plays do tend to have lots of words in
idle oriole
The slayer rottation this tier is litteraly so painful
Hoping for major rework next expansion
molten wing
eh i enjoy it , its fine to just mash the buttons sometimes without thinking
plush maple
eh i enjoy it , its fine to just mash the buttons sometimes without thinking
👆 👆 👆 👆
plush maple
I like to take things wrong purposely <:clueless:1099922541923024997>
I did realize I wrote it grammatically wrong, it isn’t ”10 year old veteran” but ”10 year veteran”
undone flower
I have no clue about English grammar 
undone flower
We never learned in school the order of adjectives for example
So sometime I put an adjective like I would put it in French
clever belfry
fr*nch
earnest canyon
Im a huge fan of wordplays
Si mon tonton tond ton tonton, ton tonton sera tondu
undone flower
Spotify vrap
undone flower
Nop
undone flower
Maybe it is disabled on the phone
smoky vale
prob
gleaming siren
Arms Troll #57
undone flower
clever belfry
Meow (not censored)
crazy thing to type
jolly marten
thank god i didnt listen to you and switch to rogue this season
undone flower
undone flower
thank you skill capped wow mythic+ guides
Do you think they took this weeks fury to make this tier list ?
whole remnant
undone flower
With reverb fix
jolly marten
ok its official now i think, we suck in m+, like we did 2 seasons now. im curious tho in raid how we will do
snow edge
bitter palm
thank god i didnt listen to you and switch to rogue this season
sub b tier
sullen dove
Do you think they took this weeks fury to make this tier list ?
fury hasn’t changed in like 3 weeks of ptr how it is is how it is the video is a meme lol
jolly marten
the funny thing is that you are still believing it.. like you did in season 2 after the main abilities buffs
sullen dove
believing what
ur blind if you think fury isnt significantly better this tier than last
jolly marten
you dont understand that as long as we dont get reworked we wont be any good in m+
sullen dove
rework is meaningless buzzwords
if we do a lot of damage we are good in m+
that is it
whether that’s by getting rid of target cap or we’re tuned to be the strongest capped as we are
poggers
undone flower
fury hasn’t changed in like 3 weeks of ptr how it is is how it is the video is a...
Im trying to find if there was a thought process to put fury at the same rank as arms (i dont’ think any thought process happened, it is usual money grab tier list)
sullen dove
but neither has been true since like ever
undone flower
I think it’s time to start an utility circle loop, it’s been too long
sullen dove
true
utility is definitely the most important factor in keys
I will always take an evoker with 576438 utility spells over the class that does the most damage
jolly marten
all content creators say the same thing.. as fury you do 1 to 1.5 million dmg less but you bring battle shout to offset for this
undone flower
When destro was meta in SL, it is bc eating green stones and portals were the shit
south kayak
I think it’s time to start an utility circle loop, it’s been too long
We would be meta in M+ if we had a lust
jolly marten
we are poor augm evokers
undone flower
We would be meta in M+ if we had a lust
A comp with a warrior has a shaman
Or a hunter, so, wrong
sullen dove
I mean idk about m+ ptr from all s2 classes to s3 cuz only donkeys play that but fury is prolly like comparatively 30% stronger than it was last season at least
it was so horrendous doo doo dogshit last season
0 aoe barely any st
worthless cooldowns
at least tblast cooks now
south kayak
A comp with a warrior has a shaman
I am utilizing sarcasm
jolly marten
poor arms is in a even shittier spot right now
undone flower
I am utilizing sarcasm
It is an utility circle loop, we need to really get into it for the next 10 min
sullen dove
yea I mean I think colossus arms just stayed about as good as it already was
didn’t move up or down much
Fury just moved way up to sort of match it
smoky vale
sullen dove
maybe slightly better idk how good s2 arms tier was for m+
just like some random ass haste and cleave buffs like whatever
smoky vale
evoker too
undone flower
Rat char are only authorized for 10s
sullen dove
yea was really eye opening to get me to finish the rest of my m0
undone flower
It is always a good experience, starting a key just after you get the 30 min server down message
smoky vale
hey man its hard to heal when freaking out
no one pressed walls either
(and 70 ilvl under)
south kayak
that’s great
lmao
sullen dove
And you gotta have some warbound gear by now
undone flower
Baka!
sullen dove
I got a bank full of a buncha 650 stuff I’m never gonna use
radiant plank
I got a bank full of a buncha 650 stuff I’m never gonna use
nerd
craft free 675 set of gear
sullen dove
But I mean while you were the filthiest rat def not the only problem everyone else in that one was just booty
dps getting lost for 2 minutes
good times
sullen dove
yea I mean he had the spirit
smoky vale
i just
sullen dove
idk what the other 2 were doong
sullen dove
what are you dmfing more than 1 character for
smoky vale
rep
sullen dove
also who gaf bout dmf
smoky vale
me
sullen dove
seek god
smoky vale
love you too bud
smoky vale
its what got pauck
gleaming siren
pepw
bitter palm
1.jpg 2.jpg 3.jpg 4.jpg @smoky vale
clever belfry
@gleaming siren schmididitoilet
little wharf
@little wharf Fury rework 2028
sullen dove
and didn't get banned
for 11 hours still 😭
thick fossil
@sudden tusk You passion eh?
earnest canyon
@sullen dove You ate a 10 ban for renown ?
lofty delta
Do you still need to stand within champion's spear?
earnest canyon
radiant plank
Do you still need to stand within champion's spear?
no
south kayak
I definitely have a higher renown level than 1
me at 4
fading sky
5 and proud🤣
heavy nacelle
how much of a dps loss is not having the raid boots that give cloak bonus? ;O
iron portal
You can prob sim it
south kayak
You playing warrior this tier or nah
No, I'm maining a healer lmao
ivory ingot
radiant plank
how much of a dps loss is not having the raid boots that give cloak bonus? ;O
1%-3% depending on the upgrade track of boots
jolly parrot
Is there a race sim for next season?
south kayak
Demo kinda crazy
south kayak
Went from giga OP to the best simming spec
radiant plank
Is there a race sim for next season?
south kayak
radiant plank
Went from giga OP to the best simming spec
ele sims higher now noob
gleaming siren
From which sim
gleaming siren
Oh Szyna's ok
gleaming siren
Was mostly yok
jolly parrot
HUH
gleaming siren
What does human give
Increased secondaries
south kayak
That it’s so high
huh
south kayak
wait can you not do tazavesh?
this week
m0
it's not included in the dungeon finder premade
proven stream
no
heavy nacelle
1%-3% depending on the upgrade track of boots
thx 🙂
worthy scarab
do we have any delve trinket for fury this season guys?
radiant plank
do we have any delve trinket for fury this season guys?
no
vague spindle
Is arms gonna be better than fury for m+ this season too?
radiant plank
no
vague spindle
nice 😄
hoary agate
do we have any delve trinket for fury this season guys?
no idea if this is simming correctly but after trinket tuning last night
vs same level ara kara for example on ST
ofc my gear is just S2 gear atm and simming for upgrades at HC level etc not end game bis, but looks interesting for ST if simming correctly (I dont think the death proc will trigger in ST but sim might be idk)
- this wasnt on the list of tuned trinkets but I dont think was simming this high for me previously
eternal sundial
<@653287531038900236>
Hooly
heavy folio
that slayer sd conditions wa still applies in 11.2?
pale lava
that slayer sd conditions wa still applies in 11.2?
get the updated one from wago directly
pale lava
Feels weird never casting it
yeah, there are other buttons that just do more damage per global
but that's after you get your 4P if I'm correct
fading sky
Hmm 50k dmg difference between dragon and void thats a big number
hollow leaf
Haven't kept up to date, is it thane now even without the new tier?
brave thorn
🤨
oak peak
Haven't kept up to date, is it thane now even without the new tier?
Slayer in M+ till you get tier
quiet geyser
Is there a doc made that shows every specs dps increase going from s2 to s3 tier?
frank dawn
There are some out there but I think they are paywalled.
I saw some screenshots a week or so ago
hoary agate
🤨
3% damage at ilvl 704 st
Seems legit
Might be a good temp trinket but mythic sac probably beats it or raid trinkets
quiet geyser
There are some out there but I think they are paywalled.
I saw some screenshots...
What the hell 🙁
hoary agate
The standard doc should go live after us goes live
Has 4pc Vs 4pc Sims etc when it's live
hoary agate
I mean yea but our other options are also dogshit until raid too haha
If you get lucky with your delve map will be a nice temp trinket
undone flower
I will rock on either pace/lock or eye if I don’t loot a good one before raid
tepid cedar
no idea if this is simming correctly but after trinket tuning last night
i think it jsut depends on ur ilvl and ur current items, and until u stabilize ur items and i lvl its going to be all over the place
hoary agate
Yeah you can't degen farm this current trinket anyway, and yes apoc you are right + damage tends to do better than stats at low ilvls if tuned good
tepid cedar
as u see, same thing for me. however when u start getting better stats etc that wil change and sac will go above them al;l
hoary agate
Yeah it should do as primary stacking on your stats etc
earnest canyon
i want more cores on raidbots
hoary agate
Still tho if you get one on delve map or in vault and no tier might be worth taking for early splits
Socket might be better vault tho long term
tepid cedar
yea. and what i try to do until i get al the bis pieces, is say bis list has the neck, 1800 haste/7800vers. i try to find a helmet that has the same stats and if possible the same stat split . then u can focus on the bis trinkets and not have a lot of variations.
unless u get a tier slot
which is the dream
saw this changed.
calm ermine
What talents is "slayer no caps"?
limber oar
saw this changed.
Antenna arcanocore stonks
tepid cedar
if thats the case, we in luck, BIS trinkets from first 2 bosses. hell yea
hoary agate
Yup rip trinkey
limber oar
Arcanocore should be relatively free tho
limber oar
Just give your raid lead/loot council lead a teensy bit of head so they bias you naturally
hoary agate
Don't forget two hands
limber oar
I took the minutes of our meeting yday so im setting myself up for success
tepid cedar
top 4 were weapons, then those 2 came
limber oar
Ya bro
tepid cedar
hardy shuttle
I think the 3rd one is technically a cantrip but I dont even know if it has any benefit to combat
hardy shuttle
Its like only 1 secondary stat. Crit i think. And its on use is like looting bodies around you or some shit
limber oar
Oh idc about that
tepid cedar
raw damage is the important thing
hardy shuttle
Yeah. Whatever weapon you get first is your BiS. Then your other gear will change around that
tepid cedar
even if u get the worst secondari stats next week vand get lucky on a mythic track weapon. u fucking yoink that asap.
well our bis weapons is 723 + crafter with ascendance
limber oar
I hate to say this cause one of my closest friends is a giga ret pally player but
tepid cedar
so either way, a Mtrack weapon will last u all tier and ur vasically done till u can get a circuit breaker from vault
limber oar
Ret pally being bad rn gives us more chances to get plate and 2h weapons
restive peak
Stats on weps never matter, you just swap a craft or off piece or gems etc
hardy shuttle
Im just saying, sims will adjust the other gear around whatever one you end up getting. So dont be picky. Just grab the first mythic track weapon you see. + crafted ofc
limber oar
Unfortunately dk being good rn evens that out
tepid cedar
Stats on weps never matter, you just swap a craft or off piece or gems etc
im jsut ocd and want the shit exactly from bis list
lol
restive peak
We will be so overloaded this tier we need crit and vers too
restive peak
Doubtful, but don’t know for sure
tepid cedar
about to go through wowhead classes and see if any otheer class has arcanocore as bis
limber oar
Keep me posted
restive peak
They all do lol
limber oar
restive peak
Those trinkets are bis for basically everyone except the caster one for their set
limber oar
I gotta work on my head game
rare forum
HUH
high sedge
HUH
limber oar
Make our loot council lead think i need that trinket or ill actually be DoA
high sedge
the voices won...
limber oar
Cmon this is like preseason sandbagging
But begging for gear
“Its actually bis for me i swear the apl is bugged”
earnest canyon
I gotta work on my head game
that's what she said
limber oar
The bright side is at least since theyre the first 2 bosses
It should be so free and repeatable in mythic that most dps should be able to get it before lock out spam (maybe)
brave thorn
Ez Dinar grab nonetheless
tepid cedar
ret-no, ww-no, destruction-no, demo-no, affliction-no, rogue-no, havok-no
basically aranacore is 100% free
limber oar
Just say who wants it
tepid cedar
for us
tepid cedar
i like that aranacore trinket too. wil be awesome. if it stays like that, no swapping raid and m+ trinkets
limber oar
Is it also better in m+ than sac a brood?
Im all for lazy, one dimensional gearin and crest savin but damn
deep sapphire
So with the sims how they are will we be wanting to play Arms instead of Fury on any fights? Maybe council?
turbid bay
Arms is gutter tier
deep sapphire
Life is good
Is Mountain Thane going to be better with Council being three targets?
radiant plank
possibly
deep sapphire
Yup just saw on the guide cause I’m smart and decided to look at it.
orchid dagger
So with the sims how they are will we be wanting to play Arms instead of Fury on...
The shit in your toilet > Arms
turbid bay
Slayer will be better until you get tier for council if i had to guess
wheat oyster
someone ping me whe server up ty
turbid bay
But havent seen the numbers the reset on thane might pull it ahead on council
turbid bay
tepid cedar
man i hope it dont take all 4 hours on maint
legit dont know how its not a 1 hour maint
tepid cedar
lol
thick fossil
I planned for 4+
tepid cedar
anyopne else here waiting til like sunday or monday to do tazavesh
winter shoal
LMAO, fucking Azortharion.
"Was I sandbagging, no. The sims where just wrong."
I mean tbf sims are wrong all the time, he's just really not doing himself any favors with the history of sandbagging and paywalling sims and all that
thick fossil
I'll be spamming the shit out of M+ helping to gear guildies.
steep fable
I mean, we are already on 11.2. They just turn on the raid, m+ and add another reshii wrap level. For real, are they testing the patch for the fist time on patch day? Is that why it takes so long?
tepid cedar
think ima wait til end of week and end of all raids tbefore going into hardmode
storm birch
anyopne else here waiting til like sunday or monday to do tazavesh
Yea hoping for antenna drop, boots drop, and 4 set. And then hoping raid gives it all to me
south kayak
Thoughts on cursed idol buffs
tepid cedar
662 4p is half a mil stronger than 684 s2 tier LOLOL
steep fable
662 4p is half a mil stronger than 684 s2 tier LOLOL
😮
hoary agate
Cursed Stone Idol radius increased to 8 yards, damage increased by 550%, base crit increased to 7%, but crit from other enemies nerfed
Trinket is back?
modest condor
yes
it was already strong on aoe before this (it's currently slightly undersimming)
it's definitely gonna be our best trinket for m+ now
south kayak
it's definitely gonna be our best trinket for m+ now
Is the cursed idol damage part capped?
modest condor
i dont know
hoary agate
it was already strong on aoe before this (it's currently slightly undersimming)
I'm think it's good for st now too base crit upgrade etc
brittle crow
but crit from other enemies nerfed!
manic mirage
Vault loot still set to arms correct?
tepid cedar
it's definitely gonna be our best trinket for m+ now
aranacore+cursed sounds tasty
hoary agate
We finally funnel class kek more crit if you pull onto boss
south kayak
i dont know
I just saw it, it doesn’t indicate that it’s capped
south kayak
aranacore+cursed sounds tasty
What’s the first one?
south kayak
Oo
storm birch
Into halls of atonement I go !!!
unborn delta
Approximately [6.67 + Haste] procs per minute
So I have 20k haste that’s a lot of procs
past hazel
are we running Massacre with this new tier
storm birch
That or dawn
fickle glen
eco dome fastest
storm birch
But ara has better drops
winter shoal
are we running Massacre with this new tier
No
fickle glen
what are we crafting first btw weap right?
past hazel
also, I was told were running Sac Brood and Astral Antenna from raid as our bis, that true?
I know Sac is
I havent done much research honestly
sour frigate
undone flower
droptimizer all dungeons trinkets
sinful spoke
also, I was told were running Sac Brood and Astral Antenna from raid as our bis,...
ur bis is what the sims say
so
sim urself
fickle glen
sac is sadly bad now
sinful spoke
limber oar
anyopne else here waiting til like sunday or monday to do tazavesh
Ya 100% i dont trust blizzard to not fk something up and the servers to crash randomly or something
winter shoal
sac is sadly bad now
Bro just saying shit
chilly fractal
“Bad now” is a wild take
undone flower
Wildest take ever
limber oar
Honestly ima try to stay away from either tazavesh dungeon if i can, apparently if someone jumps off the map in the lobby begore you put in the keystone it can brick your deathless buff
winter shoal
Actually insane how many people just say things with 0 supporting evidence
limber oar
Actually insane how many people just say things with 0 supporting evidence
Me when i lie
fickle glen
well i mean atleast for me kekw
winter shoal
Just unfiltered yapping about things they know nothing about
winter shoal
I mean that might be real depending on current gear and stats
fickle glen
literally just did droptimizer without changing anything except max ilvl
winter shoal
Doesn't mean it's necessarily bad, just that it's not the best for you and your current gear
sinful spoke
I mean that might be real depending on current gear and stats
he sims less than me with current gear on my aoe spec in st
and im 685
no way his gear is that much better
turbid bay
Weird brood is a 2% increase for me
fickle glen
im just 677 so 😛
undone flower
Doesn't mean it's necessarily bad, just that it's not the best for you and your ...
Yeah I’m gonna 100% degen farm any dungeon trinket I can have
turbid bay
And lines up with what trinks are expected to be strong
sour tundra
why does the slayer fury wowhead guide not have Rally talented?
sinful spoke
winter shoal
no way his gear is that much better
Not about better gear, just stat distributions
limber oar
Doesn't mean it's necessarily bad, just that it's not the best for you and your ...
Dude doesnt understand that raw dmg number >>> stat trinkets at super low ilvl
stuck spindle
yoyo are we rocking slayer fury until 4 set is aquired? for m+
winter shoal
If you have a billion haste and no vers/mast, sac will be worse than if you have a billion vers/mast and no haste
radiant plank
why does the slayer fury wowhead guide not have Rally talented? <:monkahmm:13825...
To send a message
winter shoal
yoyo are we rocking slayer fury until 4 set is aquired? for m+
For keys yes
stuck spindle
👍 chuuuuuuur brothas
fickle glen
his sim is broken
literally said i just did droptimizer without changing anything except max ilvl so if u wanna blame anything or someone its the website not me
sinful spoke
njo
winter shoal
Break s2 4 set with hero gear sim yourself to double check
Very likely worth breaking for slayer 2p regardless of ilvl, but that's a sim question
sinful spoke
trade it to me if u get it
median token
bis
sinful spoke
its bad
cunning igloo
Sick
winter shoal
Is this any good now the cursed idol
Possibly in keys
radiant plank
yes
Cursed Stone Idol got some extreme last minute buffs and is now a trinket both specs should consider getting for a niche dmg amp boss fight, boss fight with adds or M+. Bonus, you can channel it during charging
turbid bay
Very likely worth breaking for slayer 2p regardless of ilvl, but that's a sim qu...
Mmm yeh ill double check
cunning igloo
I believe so
turbid bay
Have to put it on the list of stuff to farm
undone flower
yay
radiant plank
Halls drops alot of good warrior items so you should be inthere anyway
fickle glen
but u know whats funny, this other 3 dungeon trink sims higher than sacbrood for me(and it is in the same sims as sacbrood sims)
sour tundra
time to farm 40 Halls runs today
iron portal
Why not 400
median token
weapon first
proven stream
CSI is our uncapped dmg pog?
turbid bay
Csi might be good on certain fights in raid
proven stream
the dmg amp ones
median token
bladegust?
spare steppe
Wooo trinket tuning
dapper goblet
Go enha u rat
worse than arms
radiant plank
Ele obv
radiant plank
worse than arms
Got buffed to be above arms rat
dapper goblet
What spec are you doin this tier then
dapper goblet
tepid cedar
ps, good luck on your vaults MAY U ALL GET A TIER PIECE jsutt for being fuuurrrriiiieees
radiant knot
undone flower
I will get 3 cloaks and 3 belts
chilly fractal
ps, good luck on your vaults MAY U ALL GET A TIER PIECE jsutt for being fuuurrrr...
Thanks bro
chrome relic
I don’t think you can legally get a cloak anymore
tepid cedar
ALLLEGEDLY they removed cloacks form vault
earnest canyon
ALLLEGEDLY they removed cloacks form vault
6 cloaks inc
light tapir
I will get 3 cloaks and 3 belts
Don't put it into the universe
feral ivy
whos ready to raid today wooo
ruby acorn
If not all cloaks, then all bracers
eternal sundial
ALLLEGEDLY they removed cloacks form vault
I got 3 belt this ssn alr
Game is cruel
undone flower
opens the vault as fury
echo rapids
Wooo trinket tuning
Any major changes?
spare steppe
Stone idol may actually be good now
light tapir
I got 3 belt this ssn alr
I got 5 lol. My disc belt says throw em in the bin
Imagine a vault of all belts. Who let Nomura in there
normal ibex
who cares what’s in vault it’s socket week
chilly fractal
ALLLEGEDLY they removed cloacks form vault
There’s no cloaks afaik above veteran track other than the artifact
sullen dove
who cares what’s in vault it’s socket week
Ideally Hero track (normal if you must) tier pretty good to then only need to be given 1 piece in raid to make 4set I believe
chilly fractal
Imagine a vault of all belts. Who let Nomura in there
In FF and KH they just wear all the belts
sullen dove
(assuming you get 2k io or aotc)
spare steppe
Shit I’d take any tier this week over a socket
sullen dove
it should be epic for immediate power spike week 1 and not have to rely on winning 2 pieces outta raid so prayge
undone flower
normal ibex
if worries about heroic tier do more splits
undone flower
When I’m gonna be screaming bc I need just 1 piece from raid
chilly fractal
Rogues gonna snipe em from you
spare steppe
When I’m gonna be screaming bc I need just 1 piece from raid
What piece are you aiming for
chilly fractal
Yea but your GM’s wife’s boyfriend needs it for M+
sinful spoke
who cares what’s in vault it’s socket week
idk bro
u could get tier
and tier is huge
undone flower
What piece are you aiming for
Any, even champ track will calm me
sinful spoke
split my balsl into ur mouth
chilly fractal
Go into LFR and offer mad gold to whoever loots a Zenith
undone flower
When I was a pug only I used to do a split pug first week just to get 4 p week 1
spare steppe
I think im competing against 4 other people 🙁
undone flower
Split pug meaning I’m the group leader and I don’t invite anyone on my tier
south kayak
(assuming you get 2k io or aotc)
Kyveza ?? better than both
sullen dove
wot
chilly fractal
They should’ve added that
sullen dove
for the free tier piece item achieve
think kyveza bit too easy for that
not that 2k io is hard but a lot of time commitment and aotc super early def harder than an 8 minute boss possible as soon as the season started
undone flower
I was sad when they removed S1 dude from vault completion
spare steppe
Well fuck me its 6 other people
chilly fractal
2k being the baseline for difficulty idk
spare steppe
Fuck my tier
south kayak
Fuck my tier
Fuck your tier too
chilly fractal
undone flower
Well fuck me its 6 other people
Good. Start rolling on the ground each time one drops
undone flower
Noisy ppl gets shit first when it is unequal loot
stoic star
Cursed Stone Idol despite tuning probably still not worth in any scenario?
Still using no on use
south kayak
It most likely is worth it in M+
spare steppe
Until antenna gets nerfed since every class wants it
hollow cove
How long ago did the maintenance start?
eternal sundial
Cursed Stone Idol despite tuning probably still not worth in any scenario?
Might be usable
ruby acorn
Almost 2 hours
hollow cove
ty
undone flower
Fury warrior after getting tier (finally beating Aug allegations)
undone flower
And meatcleavers
runic violet
OPEN THE SERVER
serene cloud
undone flower
someone dies in tazavesh lobby
undone flower
Universe is not ready for a sub 6 hour maintenance
sinful spoke
there is 2 hrs left of maint lol
dense elbow
Why ya so loud, it is tomorrow it starts 
Just chill
dense elbow
Oh no, we got the obliterate bug?
plucky ice
this mob i rampaged twice lmao
light tapir
Scheduled a dentist appointment for rn cause ik it won't be up before im out haha
dense sedge
Fit unrelated I wanted to max out coffer keys on my cow. Is it random as a reward I just did theatre got sweet nothing
undone flower
you get coffer keys in the first 4 caches of whatever weekly stuff
dense sedge
Sweet cheers
harsh fractal
you get coffer keys in the first 4 caches of whatever weekly stuff
could've been a pre-season/first week thing this past week, but seems like most of the caches give 50 key shards now instead of full key like before
undone flower
there are world quests giving you shards yes
you can scrap few keys if you do them
dense sedge
I’ve had six keys on an alt but not my bonker boy
chilly fractal
I got 6 keys
storm birch
Any minute now !!!
fresh mango
south kayak
FDK now uses 2h but fury can't have smf
dense elbow
this mob i rampaged twice lmao
If it happens real often, you can record it with combatlog open, then it is easier to see what is going on. If you can replicate it, then you should also report it.
earnest canyon
You can, go and spec it now
winter shoal
FDK now uses 2h but fury can't have smf
Fdk doesn't need to talent into using a 2h
carmine hawk
Can we do tazavesh this week or nah?
earnest canyon
Fury must have the most expensive gear in the game because who else needs 2x 2hander?
olive wraith
Yes you can
light tapir
Can we do tazavesh this week or nah?
Depends how much you trust your party
olive wraith
It’s open
carmine hawk
I wanted to pug it but cant find any group
earnest canyon
Yes you can
Yo! I killed ||void after 2 tries, 1 shot krool, 1 shot the banana tower thing where he flies at you.....then got to king of rot fight and im just like..... ||
olive wraith
lol
earnest canyon
he takes so little damage and there is shit everywhere
olive wraith
Ya that last one there’s so much area denial
I like how the boss difficulty increased as you got closer to the end
sour tundra
everyone after servers go up
earnest canyon
Ya that last one there’s so much area denial
how many tries did it take you? And is it even worth running to him to punch when he takes so little damage or just use the balls?
spare steppe
everyone after servers go up
Are servers up yet?
dusk ledge
Anyone with a nice dwarf racial WA? I went dwarf for alittle more M+ action but sometimes don't spot it's ready for a dangerous mechanic 😄
wary smelt
opaque condor
any of these super last minute trinket changes effecting what I should prior out of delves?
olive wraith
how many tries did it take you? And is it even worth running to him to punch whe...
Idr how many tries. It’s worth it to hit him just for a bit of chip damage. I think over the course of the fight you can probably chip him enough to do 1 less ball hit
desert atlas
Are servers up yet?
NA servers aren't supposed to be up for another 1hr 26min
lavish sierra
Go lift in the interim
spare steppe
NA servers aren't supposed to be up for another 1hr 26min
Damnit my guild trolled hard
smoky vale
xeos
desert atlas
they'll be up in 15
hours after they said they will be ye
smoky vale
why arent you gonna play better fury
smoky vale
no i dont know that
dapper goblet
why arent you gonna play better fury
what is that
desert atlas
and somehow fury will be bugged on release
smoky vale
what is that
outlaw
earnest canyon
Idr how many tries. It’s worth it to hit him just for a bit of chip damage. I th...
Hmm.....I think I give up too easily because i cba with long fights
desert atlas
anyone else playing Slayer in keys til tier set?
dapper goblet
why would i play donkey outlaw
sour tundra
anyone else playing Slayer in keys til tier set?
everyone is
dapper goblet
flatline spec
smoky vale
To play better fury
undone flower
xeos is a ass man
smoky vale
flatter than ice
desert atlas
everyone is
we swap to thane at 4pc right
dapper goblet
xeos is a ass man
real
sour tundra
we swap to thane at 4pc right
yes
smoky vale
Me either
undone flower
Camillax57
devout totem
🤨
smoky vale
who is camillax57
devout totem
do not google it
undone flower
who is camillax57
you know who it is
smoky vale
happy dk
south kayak
are you really happy?
undone flower
ofc i'm happy, raid looking good, will kill all bosses, dmg looking good
light tapir
Jinroh ass helmet
sullen dove
south kayak
covert blaze
smoky vale
why are you mopping azeroth
dapper goblet
better expansion
smoky vale
what server are you chuds even on
dapper goblet
paglephile