fury

[iron portal]

I really am living under the rock

[restive peak]

Method got like 4-5 Echo people and some Legat people

[thick fossil]

China would win if we allowed them to cheat.

[restive peak]

China would win if we gave them a 20 day headstart surely

800 WIPES LATER BRO BOSS 5 IS DOWN

[earnest canyon]

who else did they get apart from Naowh and Zaelia?

[iron portal]

Zaelia, Naowh, Clickz, Canexx, and Kush have all joined Method

Reddit post

[restive peak]

^

Tbh it's not that big of a loss for Echo

[radiant plank]

[restive peak]

Naowh was already not staying, Clickz/Canexx/Kush aren't even always in, and Zaelia was obvi already gone lol

If only they could convince Walhe to replace Revvez

They'd ascend

[dense elbow]

Only reason China isnt competing, is because of their 3 day handicap, they can't catch up easily enough to actual risk their reputation. Remember, for them it is more worthwhile to sell boosts being the best, and their culture - unlike NA and EU, doesnt accept losers. They embody if you aint #1 you aint anyone. Not like the soft NA and EU culture. You cant risk being #2 as China, it is a death senetence for their boosting income. So... They got to wait for the 4 day handicap to go away.

[young swan]

okay but they literally competed in the past

they had a team that was paid for by aster

they even have a prize pool to whichever chinese team gets WF

[olive wraith]

That’s why their league teams buy Korean players

[restive peak]

The few day diff doesn't make/break a race often

[young swan]

3 days is definitely very prohibitive without a heroic week

[dense elbow]

The 5 day handicap ruins any chance to compete. You NA guys are so privileged.

[restive peak]

Yeah but they're not close enough for that to be the difference anyway

They're so far behind skillwise too

[earnest canyon]

Last time I watched a chinese raid stream (many years ago), they were literally just kamikazing tries on the boss and as people got tired, they would just swap new people in and had hundreds of pulls more than any western team. I think thats stopped now

[restive peak]

That's what they usually do

[olive wraith]

NA has the cost of being the beta testers though

[restive peak]

They always have like 2-3x the pull count of Liquid/Echo/Method

[olive wraith]

So randomly lose half a day

[restive peak]

They're like the opposite of FSY

FSY is goated for their pullcounts

[dense elbow]

You try progressing with 3-5 boosties. Smh. You just dont get their 7 day struggle.

[restive peak]

xD

It's gonna be 14 days by the time I come back to this discord tn

XDD

[earnest canyon]

I like how Liquid have this high end esports facility with dieticians, massage therapists, a chef, psychologists etc, and Shaq is knocking back 20 monsters a day and THD is surviving of Fruit Gummies and Crayons

[turbid gate]

antena and arcanocore bis trinkets or sacr?

[runic pine]

pres is pretty cool tbh but it's giga brain in any real content

[chilly fractal]

I’ll be here waiting

[calm ermine]

Can we get 4 or 6 coffer keys this week?

[trim hound]

Got 6 on my main and 7 on my alt somehow

[calm ermine]

I have only 4

Did everything...

[earnest canyon]

I only have 4 too.

Everyone report that Barrol guy

[floral mantle]

i have 6 u get 2 from coffer keys

[trim hound]

from fragments, ye

[earnest canyon]

u got 2 coffer keys from coffer keys?

[earnest canyon]

oh you farmed the blue things?

[trim hound]

Idk, I just did all the world quests and the weekly chest stuff for every faction.

[calm ermine]

I dont know what can i do to get the other 2...

[shadow flame]

why hating on Revvez 😛

[calm ermine]

Visions give pinacles caches?

[earnest canyon]

Cos he betrayed warrior and is healing this raid

[iron portal]

My my

[ruby acorn]

Which Fury guide is considered the best? They all have small differences.

[junior gale]

Well 2 of them are written by the same person

[dense elbow]

The one you like the font of the most

[earnest canyon]

I wish there was one in comic sans

[ruby acorn]

Be the change you want to see

[warped bone]

Delve keys? 100 Fragments / Weekly world event gives 1 each. 100% on cloak weekly quest. Aka fill bar is another key

Pretty much any of the weekly caches should give you a key. Until you have 4. Can get more keys from key fragments

So ye. With your 200 Key fragments you should be at 6 keys

[calm ermine]

I got the keys from fragments

And 2 from caches

Still missing 2 i did all weekly events..

[warped bone]

Tried the older world event chests?

[calm ermine]

Yes

Execept visions

[warped bone]

No issue getting 6 keys on most my chars ( the ones i could be bothered to do it on )

So perhaps send a ticket if you truly have done all stuff

[zinc python]

i know i heard some ppl talking about using the new talent trees even pre tier set but im still doing considerably more with the old talents on the dummy

the only thing i cant remember because i deleted it like an idiot, was do you use 2 points into viscious contempt for the old raid ST build?

[ruby acorn]

Yes, 2 points

[zinc python]

ty

what about the raid cleave build?

[ruby acorn]

You would still put two points in for raid cleave.

iirc, you just removed the two points in deft experience and put them into the whirlwind talents

[zinc python]

okay thats what i thought

i was trying to find old builds but all the guides changed them assuming you already have T3

[ruby acorn]

You could look at logs from before 11.2 on certain fights to see for sure.

[zinc python]

oh good call

[undone flower]

Me too, I think Liquid will win by some margin, similar to undermine, I don’t think Echo repaired the damage of losing all their healers

It is a huge topic for scripe

Healers are paid an insane amount and it is something that have made someone leave, I don’t remember who

[gilded pawn]

yeah and one of them exercises

watching asian esports half the players are anorexic other half is chubby/obese

and i say that as an asian

[onyx sonnet]

Same here. Also did not have the delve weekly. so one key from fragments weekly, one key idk anymore and 2 from 200 shards (4 weekly events x50)
So only 4 keys now

[fading sky]

So healers are scarcer, so paid more

Seems fair

[earnest canyon]

method have a form you can fill out to apply, im gonna do it

[undone flower]

Yes and they lost 1 by 1 their main healers through DF, they had a very weak healer team for mugzee

It might be more gapped next tier ngl

[gilded pawn]

how much is echo paying

[deep hare]

4 gamer gummies per tier

[undone flower]

It was some random scripe video I watched, he didn’t give a number but it was twice of a dps

[gilded pawn]

i see

still funny

[modest condor]

healing is crazy hard at world first level

[gilded pawn]

but i dont think they get paid much more than minimum wage

ya for usr

sure

its like doubly hard

everyone is squishier

AND your gear is worse

where as for DPS its just that your gear is worse

[undone flower]

And you are in improv

[modest condor]

you could see it on tindral like after a while it was just healers randomly dying all the time because they had to do so much shit while also keeping the raid alive and dispelling within 0.2 seconds and all that

[undone flower]

And only doing world first gives you world first experience

[fading sky]

Yeah,i loved that fight

[undone flower]

Healer pov is real

In my previous guild, I watched the resto sham pov when I was sat for reclears, sometime it is ?????

[fading sky]

🤣

[undone flower]

I only watch his bc the others were not interesting to me hum not the best

[rigid stirrup]

It's probably why healers get paid the big bucks in the race

[undone flower]

It is randomly watching the floor or the void during raid frame intense moments

[gilded pawn]

i wonder if they pay benched players

probably

cuz they still gotta be there to tag in whenever

[fading sky]

Ofc?

[gilded pawn]

well like the same amount

[fading sky]

Ofc ? I presume role decides pay

[gilded pawn]

if you are "on call" for a job you dont get paid 100% the amount

so im not sure

ill ask

[undone flower]

I would guess they get a raid roster bonus, and for ppl who are benched bc not ready are not getting the bonus

[gilded pawn]

more like, "this boss needs 3 war so we need to drop a dk player for war player"

does that dk player get paid reduced amount for the duration of that boss

[undone flower]

Yes but I mean ppl who is fresh recruit who will be 100% sat on every bosses

Bc liability

[gilded pawn]

ya i dont mean fresh recruits

ill ask some homies

[frank harbor]

what do you think of the fury atm guys ?

[gilded pawn]

in rwf

[undone flower]

It is as fun as it was previously for now

Im the battle shout of my guild so it doesn’t matter about performance of warrior, my performance matters more. And I do not push in pug, so im little out of touch

But I think it will be good in raid

[olive wraith]

Fury good

[tranquil dust]

Good evening everyone! Quick question, Torkal's updated WA for S3 is out, and Im confused

The original one shows as updated

And then there is a smaller sized one

Does the update include S3, or we need to download the other one, the smaller new one?

[fading sky]

Dmg seems fine, we do lack burst into amp windows, but we have decent aoe cleave

[undone flower]

[icy robin]

Do we actually press TR in ST at all?

[olive wraith]

Aka

Fury good

[olive wraith]

Tr is simming better in st

[edgy widget]

yes, but its low prio

[icy robin]

Based off wowhead, rotation - you just send it if you were gonna press WW?

[brittle crow]

surely we don't use a cd as filler

😭

[frank dawn]

just TWW fury things

[icy robin]

backup GCD got it

[ruby acorn]

Means we do have an AoE CD ready to go tho

[frank dawn]

does it really matter if its still dog damage tho

xd

[olive wraith]

Fury doesn’t have aoe cds

[ruby acorn]

It's not awful on AoE, it just doesn't do enough on ST

[frank dawn]

ehhh lol, its still not very good on aoe its just not worthless like on ST

[olive wraith]

It does like 2% overall in keys

[modest condor]

"big aoe cd" 0.5% dps increase to press on aoe

[olive wraith]

[ruby acorn]

Never said it was big, just something that does more than pure ST damage

[fading sky]

I mean roar isnt even strong on arms

[olive wraith]

Is it not

Figured with the bleeds it would be semi decent

[forest owl]

Its ok they will buff roar by 130% soon

[rose bay]

me dropping roarfor shockwave

kablamm

[olive wraith]

Roar/spear is still a dps increase

It’s just. Not the best

[flat river]

Me when any nerfs comes to warrior

[rose bay]

true

also love that guys content its so good for fueling my friends god compplex right be4 arams

[tight idol]

Do we actually want 5 tierpiece?

[ruby acorn]

No, helm has too much crit

[proud vessel]

What is TR?

[olive wraith]

Roar

[ruby acorn]

Thuderous Roar

[olive wraith]

Pick the first 4 tier you can get your hands on. Then pivot when we have extra catalyst

[iron portal]

lel

[modest condor]

need that chaos brand

[iron portal]

Pretty hard to do m0 without it I agre

[olive wraith]

Is it a leather stack

[iron portal]

IT had a mage

So no

[olive wraith]

lol

Lfg man

[whole remnant]

@left perch

[left perch]

i watchef the YouTube upload and the music didn’t make me happy I guess

[sudden tusk]

Spell reflect essentials updated whoo

[brittle crow]

i still need to update quaziis plater

[grim wolf]

Is there any macro that can replace WW with TC if TC is talented? I remember there was a way with the old talents but I'm not sure with the new ones

[warm crag]

i can give you the incredibly useful information of that macro exists but i do not have it on hand

[grim wolf]

I still appreciate you

[left perch]

yea you do like a condition [known:TcSpellId] ww

[ebon junco]

old ppl yap

[left perch]

incredibly also useful information that doesn’t get you there

[grim wolf]

time for some trial and error

cheers

[olive wraith]

Why would you need a macro like that anyways

[ebon junco]

Allows you to turn your brain off and not think of a different keybind

[warm crag]

shared action bars are a thing

[ebon junco]

for a spell that does the same

[grim wolf]

it works :
#showtooltip
/cast [known:6343]Thunder Clap; Whirlwind

[warm crag]

teach a man to fish

[grim wolf]

I have 1 set of action bars for everything since I use the LoadoutEX addon

[storm birch]

ez work !!

[left perch]

fishing lesson when?

[plush zephyr]

Ima do it later. You gonna post a vid? I’ll pop a like lol

[dreamy hemlock]

can we on ly do 6 m0s this week?

[trim hound]

Ye, you can do 2 more for vault slot but no loot

[chilly fractal]

You do 2 extra that don’t drop loot for vault

[iron portal]

If it was so easy WHY WOULDNT YOU DO IT DAY ONE

SUS

[dreamy hemlock]

Gz! How did you manage to face those charging shadows? It seems like you have to be pixel perfect facing them

[iron portal]

Just mouse turn

[storm birch]

Yea ima cook somethin up real quick

[fast mural]

download aim lab

[storm birch]

Work 12 hour shift 4 days in a row 🙁 no time after doin all the weekly stuff 🙁

Today first day back on

[storm birch]

Watch where the first two spawn because you have a second. Then after that you use peripheral vision to see each spawn after it. I liked to do little strafes while spinning because just flicking I would always overshoot. If you know where the next shadow is in the spawn order it makes looking much easier

[crude ridge]

oof

no warrior touches so we're still sitting pretty

[tepid cedar]

amazing

[warm crag]

so many nerfs lmao

[tepid cedar]

GOOD

fuckkk themmmmm

[olive wraith]

Oh my feral

[tepid cedar]

let us shineeee

[warped bone]

Congrats!

[olive wraith]

Is gonna be pretty big

[modest condor]

poor warlocks

[storm birch]

Thanks !

[modest condor]

needed buffs but got nerfs instead

[warm crag]

you are woke

[olive wraith]

Wasn’t havoc already pretty good

[ruby acorn]

Havoc was mid at best

[compact siren]

I think fury should be nerfed so arms is the play

[olive wraith]

Stop

It’s fury’s turn for s3

arms had s2

[compact siren]

fury will blast week 1 and get a 12% aura nerf

and odyns fury will get shot more

[olive wraith]

Fury has no burst

We’re gonna be okay

[warped bone]

Err. Thank you?

[lyric panther]

they must be reworking arms to not even get an aura buff

[warped bone]

Wild they haven't done anything to Arms indeed

[fast mural]

dont get too high on this cope

[uneven schooner]

i thought people were saying feral was looking solid

and they got buffs

[fast mural]

you are just gonna be dissapointed when tehy give us a 5% aura buff in 2 weeks

[compact siren]

it is

[dense fulcrum]

poor dk xd

but hey we dodged nerfs

its a win

[radiant plank]

yeah now dks jst have to play uhdk which was almost equally good as fdk

[dense fulcrum]

exactly

[smoky vale]

cope

[olive wraith]

I’m not super familiar with Fdk. But is that just st nerf

[smoky vale]

its a nothing change

[dense fulcrum]

ye is st mostly

[smoky vale]

you still playing frost

[tight idol]

Lowkey havoc being buffed is crazy no?

[dense fulcrum]

as always

this buff are aimed at raid

[radiant plank]

nothing burger chane for m+

but u might play uh in raid now

[smoky vale]

nah

[radiant plank]

Crazy that assa dodges nerf btw

[dense fulcrum]

with all the amp phases the raid have prob fdk still in a good spot

[radiant plank]

Casual and others are doing like 20mil overalld on ptr

[proud vessel]

I came back for S3 and wanted to go Enh, but after playing a bit i missed Fury to much, now Enh gets buffed lol

[sullen dove]

enh kinda down bad but did just get buffed twice in a row maybe decent now

was worse than arms

[radiant plank]

idk about that worse than arms part

[brittle crow]

nothing is worse than arms

[olive wraith]

Fury is pretty strong

[proud vessel]

M+ or Raid?

[olive wraith]

Both

[dense fulcrum]

in raid we're cool maybe do not benefit from amp phases like other classes, but we do our dmg. M+ is good cuz the new set is really good for once and we can do ok dmg, ofc not competing against S+ uncapped or softcapped classes, but we good

[olive wraith]

We are a soft capped class

[proud vessel]

Nice, good to hear. I thought we'd be mid to low mid as we dont bring anything to M+ except dmg especially now that we dont really take cry anymore (not that it was much)

[radiant plank]

u bring the most broken raid buff for phys dam comp

to m+

[digital mauve]

so is slayer really better for m+ without the set? Should I use the slayer talent tree from wowheah?

[olive wraith]

Thane st is also pretty good in keys

Ya slayer is probably better before 4p

[digital mauve]

you know if the slayer talent tree from wowhead is updated?

[dense fulcrum]

[olive wraith]

It’s not a joke

[dense fulcrum]

maybe once we can spam thunderblast with 4 set and ur lucky to proc 3 in a row

[olive wraith]

You will get a good amount of TB yes

[dense fulcrum]

yes

[woven valley]

both locks in my guild are dooming cause they got nerfed when they were like....10 percent ahead of everyone lol

[radiant plank]

lock still siimming above 6mil post nerfs

6.2 mil even

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/284226322585354241/1404581505530855474/image.png?ex=689bb5f6&is=689a6476&hm=e410d2a5b1db35ad303212ea59a6d503915297353676dd0257f3ab5e447c44e5&

Link them this pic

and then arms simming at 5.2

[dreamy hemlock]

Anyone else playing slayer with no s2 tier sets? Should I go wowhead build or drop some points to get odyns fury for more burst?

[olive wraith]

Wowhead build is fine

Slayer is probably better until you get 4p

[dense fulcrum]

slayer till u have 4p of the new set, get wowhead build

[solemn widget]

any warriors clear ?? kyveza yet

[radiant plank]

dozens

[spark stone]

with exploit or without ? XD

[solemn widget]

without lol

[olive wraith]

Crit has a video if you wanna see

[solemn widget]

w

[sterile dagger]

as warriors - we have easier times vs melee hits and shit

[warm crag]

whats crazy is that we wont see warrior in raid next week cause they couldnt kill kyveza to be allowed to raid

[smoky vale]

spongus

[spark stone]

yeah fight is pretty easy once you learn how to handle shadows and the puzzle game

[sterile dagger]

but i had wipes at like 8% and 5.3%

[smoky vale]

w nerfs no

[warm crag]

i dont really care

[sterile dagger]

but i wont agree that its easy tho

doable, but def not easy

you just need to be concentrated for like 8 minutes, or a bit more/less depends on your damage

giga concetrated

[olive wraith]

Or just wait for .5

And be focused for half the time

[sterile dagger]

or like that 🙂

[slender ingot]

Most fun I've had in wow in a while

[dense fulcrum]

there's a weak aura that tells u which is the real one too if u want afk brain

[spark stone]

i tried to use it and weak aura was wrong XD

[sour tundra]

slayer is more powerful than thane in mythic + until we get new 4 set

interesting

[olive wraith]

Well slayer got buffs to their spells

[dense fulcrum]

ye cuz ww and bladestorm got buffed

etc

[olive wraith]

Thane got buffs to tier

[sullen dove]

If you cannot defeat Kyveza, do not bother showing up to raid. This boss is a baseline mechanics check. If you cannot handle mechanics while maintaining a strong DPS or HPS rotation, you will only drag the group down on the harder fights ahead.
This is not optional. This is not “just a warm-up boss." This is the fight that tells us whether you can balance your gameplay fundamentals aka: awareness, movement, uptime, and performance but all at once. If you fail here, you will fail later.
If you can't be bothered to put in the hours to grind this fight, you are disrespecting the other 26 players on this roster who are putting in the work. This is a preparatory fight for a multi-week raid, and it requires commitment. If you can't commit now, you won't commit later.
You all said you wanted to improve as a raid and get a better ranking. That doesn't start with someone else carrying you, it starts with you improving your own gameplay. If you can't do that, you're dead weight. And yes, I'm talking to you, you slug.
And before anyone even thinks about saying, "my class isn't designed for this encounter" fucking save it. I've seen hundreds of Chinese VODs of Kyveza beaten on every single spec and every single hero talent combination possible. The fight is beatable. The capability exists. The only difference between them and you is execution and effort. So here's the bottom line: Beat Kyveza before raid night, or don't show up.

[flat river]

[spark stone]

WTF

[grim star]

Are we good? I keep seeing people saying we are pretty shit. Not as bad as arms but mid tier at best

[crude ridge]

Well fury is one of the highest simming ST classes and our cleave is pretty good so i don't see us being terrible in raid

M+ is the issue

but even then M+ isn't terrible either

[olive wraith]

Fury is good

[olive wraith]

Only problem is there are several bosses with Amps. And we have bad burst

[crude ridge]

I don't think it'll be as bad as we think

[earnest canyon]

We need buff

[lyric panther]

the dimensius amp is quite a long one isn't it?

[crude ridge]

don't worry we will get nerfed week 1 of heroic and each following week for about 5 weeks

[olive wraith]

I’m just excited for keys

Fury looks real good

[olive wraith]

Nah. We don’t have burst

[crude ridge]

I know I'm just joking about S1

[earnest canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/super-smash-bros-brawl-super-smash-bros-donkey-kong-gif-18178124

[surreal token]

https://tenor.com/view/cillianmurphygun-cillianmurphy-jazmincoded-gif-3811002643797340103

[covert blaze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1372158613312897036/1376317636249518170/speechmeme.com_25_05_2025_23_54_45.gif

[lapis shadow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/914508501697576990/1314542204722741248/caption.gif

[echo rapids]

This is art

[heady cobalt]

i like how we get the schematic for the mount but cant use it and flex on people with it yet.

[covert coyote]

?? was fun, took me about 2.5 hours and it was an enjoyable challenge

[echo rapids]

It’s more fun than underpin

[trim hound]

Underpin pissed me off cuz it was jank as hell. Kyveza was way more fun and took me like 1/4th the time xD

[covert coyote]

underpin was cheeks in comparison

[sage ridge]

Are the conditionals for using Execute the same this season as they were last season?

[olive wraith]

Yes but you’ll be hitting it more often regardless

You can also just press sd on proc for like .5% loss

[chilly fractal]

Underpin was just a buggy mess

[earnest canyon]

I hated it, never did it on warr

[covert coyote]

I like the thought of just pressing it on CD for the AM juice

[olive wraith]

Exe doesn’t use rage for fury

[covert coyote]

you right but it does generate almost twice as much as an RB

[sage ridge]

You send Execute a lot too after your target goes below 20%

[restive peak]

Execute is slightly less dogshit this upcoming tier yeah

It's still very dogshit compared to what it should be, and we're dropping VC cuz BT sucks

So we'll still not be the best execute class

[covert coyote]

but surely not > RB, right?

[chilly fractal]

imagine if execute was the best at execute

[sage ridge]

When you have a stack of marked for execution below 20% pretty sure it takes prio over rb

[covert coyote]

I was titillated when I saw execute was 20% buff, then the big sadge came

[restive peak]

RB is disgustingly OP

[limber oar]

you only send execute with sudden death proc and 2 MFE stacks

[restive peak]

RB is our best button all fight from a pure dmg standpoint

[limber oar]

unless no RB

[restive peak]

Exec is 1st filler

BT is dead

[limber oar]

mhm

[restive peak]

Double SD is prio

But that's just to not waste SD procs

So like yes you'll press execute a lot this tier, no it's still not a very good button

[lapis shadow]

Sounds stupid but Ill ask it anyway, do we just cast our bladestorm if we get it before Recklessness is up?

Or do we hold it until Recklessness is up

[restive peak]

Yeah unless a phase is going to demand it

[covert coyote]

My furious heart yearns so greatly for us to hit execute when it is available

[restive peak]

But in a general rule you're gonna storm on CD

[lapis shadow]

Sounds good

[limber oar]

unless reck is up like super soon, right?

[lapis shadow]

I guess Rampage -> Bladestorm

[restive peak]

Yeah but I think it's like 7s or something to be close

[lapis shadow]

Yeah id guess if Reck is 10s?

Ok

[limber oar]

ye

[lapis shadow]

7s

[restive peak]

But yeah, BS is an ST button now, esp when you spam RB into a big ramp after

[olive wraith]

Bs is gonna be like a 20-30s cd

[restive peak]

You def want as many of those out in a fight as humanly possible, so don't lose uses

[lapis shadow]

I mean ofc its situational is you said Lincc, thanks

As*

[restive peak]

BS is quick this tier in full gear

And np big dog

Like BS CDR goes wild

[lapis shadow]

Same for Avatar x Reck? Or Hold Avatar until Reck is up?

[limber oar]

use on cd

[lapis shadow]

Nvm I cant read

[restive peak]

You want them stacked as often as possible ye

[lapis shadow]

++

Back to fury after a season of arms

Last time Odyns Fury was a thing, now its just 1 2 3 again

[restive peak]

Thank god

[sage ridge]

Arms is so ass I hope it stays bad the entire season so I don't have to switch

[lapis shadow]

Is there gonna be any Lincc streams for prog

[limber oar]

seeing how theres been no arms buffs both these tuning cycles

its prob staying bad till midnight

[restive peak]

I debate streaming every tier, maybe this will be the 1

I'm torn between I do love a good yap about WoW, but also I use WoW to get high and zone out a bit and I think I might be a shit streamer 50% of the time cuz of that lmao

Also I'm gonna end up on WoWtwitter shit talking Tettles and Kalamazi and Azor and shit and their fanbois will come @ me bro if I stream

[plush zephyr]

Need a mod yapping and to pretend to see egregious things in chat to argue with

[lapis shadow]

Just whip out the biceps - What the hell are nerds like us with glasses gonna do

[olive wraith]

Ddos

[restive peak]

I could steal Bajs little flex when he gets a sub shit

[olive wraith]

[lapis shadow]

joever

[chilly fractal]

I got your back, bro

[olive wraith]

How many ddos has Blizz dealt with these last few months

[earnest canyon]

If you do I'm hoping you sound like homer Simpson

[restive peak]

Maybe this will be the tier, but I'm giga low rank raiding 6hrs a week so it'd mostly just be M+ or BGBs

I sound like dane cook with a slightly deeper voice according to many

[earnest canyon]

Idk who that is

[chilly fractal]

Do kids these days know Dane Cook

[restive peak]

There are Equinox youtube vids for sure with my voice lmao

Bro if they don't they need to learn

[olive wraith]

My god

Is Dane cook really that long ago

[restive peak]

Yeah man he's like 55 now

[olive wraith]

[chilly fractal]

The movie Waiting reminds me of Dane Cook

[restive peak]

Waiting is so fuckin goated man

Holy fuck I love that movie

[earnest canyon]

Googled him and nope, no idea who that is

[chilly fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/soveiny-waiting-funny-luisgarcia-gif-21925953

[olive wraith]

Used to be a pretty big standup comic

[junior gale]

that movie is a classic

[restive peak]

That entire movie is quotable which I think only tropic thunder has also managed

[earnest canyon]

Yeah seems so. But na

[chilly fractal]

true

[restive peak]

Go watch Waiting

You'll be so happy you did

[olive wraith]

Dodgeball is pretty quotable

[restive peak]

Yeah Dodgeball is also goated true true

[chilly fractal]

You can't mix Mexican with continental

[olive wraith]

I hate that scene

[restive peak]

cmon man you're betta than that

[junior gale]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-gif-14105237

[restive peak]

So fuckin amazing

[chilly fractal]

How bout a little garlic salt

[olive wraith]

No please

Stop

I hate it

[restive peak]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-pink-center-waiting-ryan-reynolds-wet-wet-wap-gif-9580280511419674062

Dont we all

[junior gale]

Gotta give em the batwing

[chilly fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-ryan-reynolds-gif-21069323

[chilly fractal]

always been a fan of the brain

[restive peak]

"Few things are as unsettling as going into the back for condiments and ending up staring at a big, steamy pile of blankcuzdiscordhatesme"

[chilly fractal]

haha

what a great movie

[junior gale]

as long as you remember there is no sequel!

[chilly fractal]

oh yea...

thanks for the reminder

[restive peak]

Another funny restaurant 1

Is the slammin salmon

[chilly fractal]

Def overlooked by their other movies

Clubb Dread Supertroopers Beerfest

[restive peak]

All so awesome

[chilly fractal]

Club Dread I will never forget

“Give me the racket, give me the balls!”

[modest condor]

soooo physical comp, brewmaster feral fury resto sham?

[restive peak]

Could be sick

[olive wraith]

Ya feral is looking solid

[restive peak]

Sandbagged MM

[olive wraith]

Good st buffs

[modest condor]

im not playing with no filthy MM sandbaggers smh my head

[echo rapids]

Yeah feral is good and you need a combat rez

[modest condor]

combat res is whatever, i was thinking because they're tuned well and motw

[echo rapids]

all true

[modest condor]

from what i've seen they were already doing a lot of damage in m+ before the buffs

[echo rapids]

Yeah they were in the spot you want to be, which js good in aoe and mid in ST

[restive peak]

Think you just bring DK as the 3rd just cuz it's giga busted

[echo rapids]

Dodge those nerfs and get buffs

[modest condor]

i mean MM is also giga busted

[sage ridge]

Do you actually follow this or do you just prio RB and use execute as your first filler?

[modest condor]

you could probably go slayer fury if you bring an MM

[modest condor]

i mean that's probably gonna be in the sd weakaura anyway

[echo rapids]

I do whatever the one button rotation tells me

(Kidding)

[sage ridge]

Wouldn't that be confusing since that is seperate from when you would use it outside of below 20%

[modest condor]

how is it confusing? you just press execute when the weakaura goes kaching

[echo rapids]

I think the SD weak aura just lights up when it’s right

[modest condor]

yeah

[sage ridge]

I just meant on the rotation it has that below Rampage but Execute is higher than both with the other conditionals

[olive wraith]

The other conditionals make it a stronger button

[modest condor]

i mean it's not a one button macro, it's a reminder, you're still gonna have to use your brain if something else is higher prio or not

you could make the sound effect different depending on if it's lower or higher prio than rampage

[echo rapids]

What kind of damage number difference are we talking

[quiet breach]

boomkin in my guild switched to feral

[olive wraith]

M+ stonks for you

[quiet breach]

I might've seen that spec one single time in the entire season last season

[olive wraith]

Snag them for phys

[quiet breach]

and it wasn't even bad last season iirc

[olive wraith]

Nah boomie was just broken

[modest condor]

the physical comp that got 4k and 21 resil played with a feral

[quiet breach]

what was their full comp if u remember

[limber oar]

murtaz the goat

feral, outlaw, arms, resto sham, brew

[restive peak]

This is looking to be the strongest a phys comp has been

[modest condor]

nah, that was bfa s2 Kappa

[quiet breach]

who was the arms in that group

[modest condor]

@honest sundial

[limber oar]

farover

[carmine hawk]

wow warrior is invisible for blizzard again

what a surprise

[limber oar]

fury not being touched is fine

[olive wraith]

So hyped to see this m+ season

[restive peak]

Well for fury that's a good thing

[limber oar]

amrs not being touched is a violation

[olive wraith]

But guys fury is still capped

[earnest canyon]

How does this new mega dungeon work when tasavesh is 2 instances normally

[modest condor]

it's 1 instance normally

they split it up for m+

[olive wraith]

Did you play Df

It’s like doti

[earnest canyon]

Yeah

[limber oar]

when you walk into tazavesh to put in either the streets or gambit key

becareful to not fall off the map and die

cause in the lobby you lose the deathless buff

apparently

[earnest canyon]

I don't remember doti

[olive wraith]

Dawn of the infinites?

[digital mauve]

is it me or slayer aoe gameplay feels a lot more fast pace/ snappier? Though it does less damage than Thunder to me both on dummies and via Sim. MT does have bick chucky Thunderblast

[earnest canyon]

So do you need a key to make it hard mode or what

[limber oar]

no

[olive wraith]

Slayer will do less sustained aoe than thane

Slightly better burst and st though

[iron portal]

Strongest physical comp didnt need anything but warriors

Change my mind

[frank dawn]

“M0” Tazavesh is just hard mode. It’s the only non keystone Tazavesh that exists

[modest condor]

nothing but fury warriors

[stoic star]

Do you only need to do level 6 tier delves?

[iron portal]

Nothing but men

[digital mauve]

yeah I noticed that but what surprises me is the gameplay feel, idk but slayer feels faster

[stoic star]

it says 694iLvl reward in my 3rd slot

for a tier 6, but the rest are tier 8-10

[frank dawn]

Visual bug

[iron portal]

level 8 for max reward

[stoic star]

Ahh okay

[earnest canyon]

Ah, ty

[frank dawn]

Need tier 8

[olive wraith]

It might be like a few apm higher.

[stoic star]

BUFF WARRIOR BLIZZARD - WE DOWN BAD

[olive wraith]

Arms*

[frank dawn]

I’m really curious what things look like the next week or so

I want to think Fury is ok once we have tier. Good but not OP

[stoic star]

Did you watch the Liquid Max Tier List discussion video?

Sounds pretty sad potatoes 🙁

[olive wraith]

Fury is good

[stoic star]

Warrior hardly ever OP. Everytime it is they nerf us.

But we are always good enough

[olive wraith]

Disregard tier lists

[sterile hill]

Look where fury sits numbers wise

On simcraft

[stoic star]

Yeah not bad

[sterile hill]

its good i agree

[stoic star]

I thought Kalamazi said Demo / Destro is "Degen Sim Bait"

😛

[sterile hill]

its doing vastly better then the rest of melee

[frank dawn]

We just have no burst and get fucked by downtime so that will hurt obviously

But still pretty solid

[restive peak]

We're still going to be good

[stoic star]

Dude seeing Survival Hunter at the top of the hunters is so pog

[craggy sleet]

dont care if we're good or not, still playing warrior + cant read graphs

[restive peak]

MM magically found 500k today

It's 5.9mil now

[restive peak]

Based as fuck

[frank dawn]

Fuckin hunters lol

[restive peak]

The sandbag continues bro

EVERY tier

[stoic star]

Survival S3 Shadowlands was so much fun.

[restive peak]

They just somehow decide to redo their entire APL right after the final nerfs drop

[sterile hill]

Like people are acting like theres gonna be no further tuning. Things will shift soon or sooner.

[olive wraith]

Same. The only swapping I do is between arms and fury

[restive peak]

I mean in reality this likely is the tuning for the race

[orchid dagger]

It's how you keep one step ahead of the devs duh

[olive wraith]

Even though I prefer fury

[stoic star]

I play all 13 classes like a Degen

but

only a few fully mythic geared

[sterile hill]

I love arms but its nice to see fury doing well

[restive peak]

I mean it's insanely depressing that our APLs do a better job of understanding class nuance than the designers do

[sterile hill]

on the side note https://www.wowhead.com/news/last-minute-season-3-mythic-dungeon-nerfs-378097?utm_source=discord-webhook

[restive peak]

The nerfs to dungeons are so meh

Lol

[earnest canyon]

Does azortharion do the apl?

[sterile hill]

[frank dawn]

What is stigma of pride?

[limber oar]

hunter class writer is a professional sandbagger this is known

[restive peak]

Ofc he does

[restive peak]

the DOT

[sterile hill]

the yap session on maxs stream was killing me

[restive peak]

Not the 1 you're hoping for

You could hear Max side-eyein Azor during that but not wanting to leak shit

[sterile hill]

[restive peak]

Bro NGL though

Jbs rant was fuckin legendary

Best part of that night

[sterile hill]

i liked wordups part

[limber oar]

"mm hunter is just pad dmg, we have no prio, gamba spec, no ST dmg its so bad. Once a pack lives longer than ~45 sec every spec will catch up (as if every other spec wouldnt just be mildly flatlining by then too)"

[restive peak]

Wordup always keeps it real

He's a good one

[frank dawn]

Wordup is always pro

[limber oar]

dude didnt even know what he was saying he was just upset and lost lmfao

[modest condor]

didnt he put enha shaman in A tier in s1?

[frank dawn]

But I did lol “I’m gonna try and be nice….so our tier sets are all dog shit”

[quiet breach]

if they give us catalyst tommorow will u guys send it on a hero track piece to get 2 pc right away

or would u wait for myth track piece

[modest condor]

i would wait

[earnest canyon]

I felt sorry for the arcane dude whoever that was. People can be dicks

[sterile hill]

Porom

[limber oar]

wait brother

[restive peak]

Don't send catalyst until it's your 4 set or a myth track piece that would be your bis spot

[limber oar]

use on myth track gear or to finalize 4 set

[quiet breach]

bet

my guild is going into mythic week 2 for sure (maybe week 1 if we are cracked)

[limber oar]

would suck if you sent on like legs only to get tier legs later

[quiet breach]

so i will have extra opportunities for myth track too

[olive wraith]

4p is bigger so wait and use it on a piece you don’t loot

[frank dawn]

If you’re not a fairly solid mythic guild I would say send it on a heroic 2pc tho. 2pc/2pc pretty strong for slayer

[limber oar]

disagree

[restive peak]

If 1st 2 bosses are easy, people prob go into mythic

So many trinkets and weps off those bosses

[earnest canyon]

How often do we get a catalyst charge

[quiet breach]

shiiet lemme see what kinda plate off pieces we workin with

or not offpieces but

[restive peak]

Every 2 weeks

[quiet breach]

tier pieces that arent tier

[chilly fractal]

1st 2 boss both drop insane trinkets

[restive peak]

Offsets from the full spark week

[earnest canyon]

Ah ok

[olive wraith]

Plus you get an extra one for heroic raid clear

2k key rating

[restive peak]

This is gonna be a weird tier for me

[frank dawn]

It’s kind of cool to see good trinkets on early bosses

[quiet breach]

OH SHIT i forgot about the 2k rating one

[restive peak]

Gonna be not ahead on gear etc early lol

[limber oar]

i did my degen google sheets page yday to see what dungeons i wanna focus

[frank dawn]

Or are those early boss trinkets only good cuz everything else is dog water xd

[restive peak]

Kinda both reasons

[quiet breach]

ok there is a plate chest on the first boss

[restive peak]

Ye

[quiet breach]

BRO thats fucking clutch

[restive peak]

The gear and where it drops is nice

[chilly fractal]

If you get tier in your vault tomorrow you only need 1 tier piece from raid and you can easily get 4p

[restive peak]

Lots of weps/trinkets/tier on 1st 4

[quiet breach]

theres so many plate boys in my guild tho

actually lemme see again how many plate

[olive wraith]

How many on your tier token

[quiet breach]

7 plate users in my guild 😭

thank god plate chest is first

altho idk how many of those plate users are bench

i think a couple of them are

[olive wraith]

Tier is the bigger issue imo

You can spam keys for gear

[modest condor]

if you're aiming to clear the raid early you get fed 4piece anyway, if you're not clearing the raid early you're just potentially making it take longer to get 4piece for a dps boost when it doesnt matter yet

i would not spend catalyst unless it's to finish your 4set

[chilly fractal]

Ara Kara having only 4 items on the loot table 1 of which being sacbrood is gonna be a nice starting place to farm

[upper trellis]

season 1 flashbacks
i got heroic sac first week and never got it myth from vault

[echo rapids]

Isn’t str 2 hander like 5th boss?

[sterile hill]

haste mastery one 4th

[iron portal]

I am suprised they added trinket to HoA

But that dungeon was boring loot wise

[echo rapids]

Could be worse

[sterile hill]

yep very obtainable

[sterile hill]

thers lots haste mastery bits in there. including bis neck and ring

lots of cata to turn into teir

trinket is crap

[iron portal]

Yea as i said , before trinket, pretty boring loot

👀

[violet condor]

what do those lines mean that go out to the right like with marksman hunter

[sterile hill]

the amount of sandbagging hunters do

[violet condor]

mhm right but what does it actually mean

[modest condor]

how much rng there is in your dps

[violet condor]

and why at the end of the color lines theres a darker shade at the end

[modest condor]

same answer

[violet condor]

i see

[icy pendant]

Any infos about what we are going to craft?

[olive wraith]

Probably gonna draft a wep first

Depends how lucky I get on 2nd vault

[icy pendant]

So 2cnd spark in week 3?

[olive wraith]

That’s usually when we get 2nd spark I think

[junior gale]

realistically doesnt matter at all. If your not expecting early myth lvl weapons you hold sparks and craft a weapon about the only worth wile decision to make. Embelishments are pretty shit and meaningless

[olive wraith]

That being said crafted wep will be our bis oh

[storm birch]

Dang. I'm actually so hype for the solo boss content they cook up next. Let Me Solo Her was just too fun

[proven stream]

It's 100% hold for 2nd spark to craft weap

[olive wraith]

Only reason you wouldn’t craft wep first is if you loot myth wep

[proven stream]

I'd still craft weap cos it's bis

What do we get out of crafting an off piece

We aren't going for wf

[olive wraith]

Ilvl

[woven valley]

Waiting on wep is goated, big dps increase for just waiting a bit

[proven stream]

Burning a spark for 2 weeks of minor ilvl gain on off piece is crazy short sightedness

[olive wraith]

How much of an increase is a crafted oh compared to heroic oh

[woven valley]

Seeing as if you don’t craft oh you have to craft it on a other piece

I would assume kind of big

[stoic star]

How do you check all the sims for all the classes compared to one another

is it on bloodmalley?

[olive wraith]

Emb you mean? Emb are really small

[stoic star]

this but the full picture. what website shows it?

[woven valley]

i meant myth wep oh

cause it would also cause you to waste sparks

[olive wraith]

I’m not understanding what you mean.

[woven valley]

you said whats the diff between heroic oh and crafted. i was saying if you make a crafted myth wep plus breaking emb it would be big

i realize now you meant same ilvl

[olive wraith]

Well it would be mythic off piece+ heroic ilvl looted wep

Against 1 crafted mythic oh with emb

[woven valley]

stat gain on weps is huge

[olive wraith]

Emb in general do very little this expac, even more so in s3

[proven stream]

Why do u think heroic -> myth bracer is more than heroic -> myth offhand tho

And offhand will have ascension which is better than duskthread

[olive wraith]

Duskthread increases your stats. It’s generally gonna be a sim question either way

[chilly fractal]

Ascension doesn't increase your stats? TIL

[sage quiver]

simulationcraft.org

[olive wraith]

Less than thread isn’t it?

[proven stream]

If thread were better then bis would be 2 thread but it isn't

[chilly fractal]

double thread is < full ascendance

there's ramp with Ascendance but you don't get 100% uptime with thread either

also whatever gets you as close to a max ilvl weapon in both MH and OH fastest will almost always be the best play

[olive wraith]

Idk I guess we’ll see for sure. Was gonna sim it regardless

I mainly play keys so asc is a little iffy anyways

[delicate knoll]

where i can see the best enchants for weapons

for raid FUry war

[chilly fractal]

wowhead

[olive wraith]

Raidbots

[digital cloak]

do we gear the same way for mountain thane/slayer (m+/raid) ?

[olive wraith]

Ya just follow sims

[reef nova]

i cannot find a spec for raid and m+ any1 can share it please?

[olive wraith]

Wowhead has it

[reef nova]

kk ill go see but i saw champ spear in m+ spec and wasnt sure if it was the right one ^^

[olive wraith]

It is. You can still use roar if you prefer

[west parcel]

are we goated guys

[olive wraith]

Fury good

[reef nova]

do you know how big the diff is between the 2 ?

[earnest canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/goat-gif-14747844140212080176

[olive wraith]

Think it was less than 1%

[olive wraith]

Also did you play fury in s2? We don’t really want to change talents until we get new tier

[reef nova]

was arms for m+ fury for raid

[proven stream]

weap https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nKwTt6cVA4n8dgQnws2aXA
bracer https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pqX33wZ1R4pftETsnjEzLd

2% diff

[chilly fractal]

If I catch a ban for farming Flickergates in delves I'm gonna flip shit

[olive wraith]

Just use the slayer aoe build for now until you get 4p

[sinful spoke]

new warrior spec

wear 2 2 handers a 1 hander and a shield

[woven valley]

so just barb from diablo 4

all the weapons

[sinful spoke]

this looks crazy tho

[iron portal]

that is just usual fury in defensive stance

[feral ivy]

are yall spamming 1 dungeon or just any 10's

like for trinket

[storm birch]

ara kara is both fast and has a BiS trinket in there 😄

[proven stream]

depends on what u can get

[sinful spoke]

ara kara first

[feral ivy]

do skyriding glyphs do anything anymore?

[sinful spoke]

achieve

[feral ivy]

kk ty

[alpine steppe]

Can this weeks vault drop tier?

[signal falcon]

I guess we’ll find out soon

from our American friends

[earnest canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/america-hurricane-happy4th-of-july-america-flag-independence-day-gif-21259025

[feral ivy]

kyveza am i doing something wrong... the 3 shadows shes spawns u send them through the boss but im still gettting 1 shotted?

[slim coral]

I'll let you know when the season starts tomorrow

[slim coral]

yes you aren't suppose to die

[chilly fractal]

That’s not what you do in this fight

You have to look at the one charging

[feral ivy]

like my character has to face it?

[storm birch]

They don’t need to go through her 😄 just face them

[chilly fractal]

Yes

[feral ivy]

AHHHHHHH

[storm birch]

Look directly at them . You gotta be pretty precise

[chilly fractal]

Yea it gives very little wiggle room

[feral ivy]

fuck i was getting really annoyed because kyrzveza would move out of the way when i was positioning her

was getting mad

[chilly fractal]

90% of your deaths are going to be to that

[storm birch]

That sounds like it would be the most annoying mechanic

[chilly fractal]

The other 10% are fucking up daggers

[storm birch]

My tip to you is to look at the first and second shadows to spawn and take note. after that try to let your peripheral vision see the sequence of the other 4 and where they are. Will help with pre planning your mouse movements

[chilly fractal]

Yea I counted them out loud to myself

[storm birch]

Rather than trying to flick on the fly

[earnest canyon]

I'm gonna fuck up the guessing game, it's too fast

[alpine steppe]

Damn so we actually just dont know.

Doing content this week on the vague hope it might drop tier.

[storm birch]

I did two things for that. Half my pulls I followed the real kyveza with my eyes the other I looked directly at the center and let my passive vision follow the right one

[chilly fractal]

There should be… no reason there can’t be

[alpine steppe]

Blizzard keeping it vague so we play this week otherwise it would be dedge.

[storm birch]

Not sure which will work for you but maybe the latter helps

[slim coral]

technically it should drop tier

but who knows

[storm birch]

If darting your eyes around isn’t helping then try the second one

[earnest canyon]

Hmm. I'll try both. Thanks

[storm birch]

Sure thing 🫡

[chilly fractal]

If you can get through the guessing game you can do the whole fight

It’s just rinse and repeat

[storm birch]

well the other thing is

trying to live the auto attacks as you get past 5 mins

you need to be picking up the health pots in a smart way that brann drops

She starts to hurt quite a bit

[chilly fractal]

At no point I felt like I took damage outside of the suck

[storm birch]

guess you didn't have brann int on you huh? D:

[iron portal]

Oh fuck bran

[chilly fractal]

As healer Brann he never died once

[iron portal]

Cost me many attempts

[storm birch]

Lmaooo in my kill run he just stood on a circle and died

[iron portal]

AI is sometimes stupid

[storm birch]

almost got my dumbass killed

[chilly fractal]

DPS Brann he would die everytime

[trim hound]

Ye, I didn't really notice auto-attack dmg. But i was somewhat staggering Bran pots anyways out of habit

[marble pilot]

DPS brain just Ults in a circle and dies. It was a fun flight though

[chilly fractal]

Suck starts I spell reflect and pick up a potion when my health goes down and that’s all I did

[storm birch]

Yea I do a strafe constantly to kinda passively pick them up . I think without that they start to hit decently hard after 3rd intermission

[trim hound]

I considered using def stance during succ, but decided nah we blast 🤣

[storm birch]

Nothing insane just slight added difficutly

[marble pilot]

Dunno if this mount will be more common than the others or not

Most fun boss. But also the hardest for casuals I think

[feral ivy]

is kyveza ?? possible yet or no

[chilly fractal]

Well it’s not a buggy mess like Underpin

[marble pilot]

Cant out gear it. But at the same time as you need is reps

[chilly fractal]

That’s what we’re talking about

Many of us have finished it

[feral ivy]

oh shit

[marble pilot]

Underpin was the easiest of the 3 imo

But I know I'm the minority there

[feral ivy]

what u get =0

[marble pilot]

Title and mount skin. Same as the others

[chilly fractal]

Brann would bug out at the entrance and Underpin kept leaping to him then spawning adds everywhere instead of in the correct areas

[feral ivy]

no toy =(?

[marble pilot]

Underpin was like sub 20 attempts. Zekvir kept doing the AOE on the egg and I couldn't DPS it. I hated that fight. Just had to wait till RNG let me do the dps check.
Kyvezza is the most fair though. Just a skill check

[quiet breach]

is there damage amps on any bosses besides the 2nd, 4th, and 7th bosses?

[sullen dove]

why is a 660 aff lock doing more aoe than me

[upbeat plume]

well they are pretty cracked if the pull lasts

[earnest canyon]

Report him

[olive wraith]

Impossible loks are down bad

[marble pilot]

Aren't locks on topn of like every streamers tier list right now? At least 1-2 of the specs

[upbeat plume]

yeah they have something for most things raid, m+ not sure which goes where

[dreamy sigil]

I have a friend that says Maw of the Void it´s BIS for Fury, he must be an arms warrior in disguise right?

[sullen dove]

i rly dont think that cantrip does anything right

[olive wraith]

It just loots stuff

[sullen dove]

like if its not for any dps its just a random weapon

same as any other

[trim hound]

Turns corpses to dust

[olive wraith]

Any mythic weapon will do

[marble pilot]

Just saw the trinket change. Any of those matter or not really

[compact knot]

Matters for me

I have a fake ass trinket now

Nerfed amplifier by 42%

[marble pilot]

For the new trinkets nothing really though. Only one I saw was the passive damage one up 110%

[stoic star]

What dungeon do yall think is the quickest to fill vault with?

Eco Dome / HoA?

[limber oar]

bis until arcanocore and antenna teehee

unless its bis for m+ idk

[storm birch]

Well arcanocore won't be bis for m+. But the question was what dungeon to farm and both of those are raid trinkets ;P

Floodgate for pacemaker is another option ofc

[proven stream]

pacemaker > sacbrood on bloodmallet 3T / 5T

but will prob have to sim actual char to be sure

[stoic star]

M0 Vault is Champion Track at 691?

and T8 vault is hero track 694?

[limber oar]

Oh myb i didnt read the questions prior just finished a guild meeting to prep for s3

[proven stream]

yes and yes according to the table

[olive wraith]

Post pace nerfs?

[proven stream]

pace nerf has been out awhile so i presume so?

[plush zephyr]

Yeah lmao

Wait idk I’m confused now

[storm birch]

You’re all good. How yall lookin ?!?! Our is tomorrow

[proven stream]

tbh this vault is take a socket unless u see tier

[limber oar]

Hopefully gonna make great leaps from last tier

[storm birch]

What was yall last tier xp?

[earnest canyon]

Xp?

[limber oar]

Last tier we were on pace for US 200 until a combination of poor reclears at sprocket and slow OAB prog nuked us, we ended at US 279

[storm birch]

Experience

[edgy widget]

pacemaker is good yeah, there's some argument that its not quite as good as it sims though since the static 60s can happen at inopportune times

personally I'm not a huge fan of it, but it's a good "baseline" trinket

[earnest canyon]

I knew what xp means, but in what context?

[limber oar]

But was a pretty good leap from NP being US like 300+

[storm birch]

Like where did they finish the tier

[limber oar]

*470 actually lmfao

We’re hoping for huge gains this time we’ve gotten a lot more serious

[earnest canyon]

Oh the raid. No idea, I just do hc and a few mythic bosses

[storm birch]

Sounds like we’re in your NP position rn. We finished like 497 I think. Didn’t have a solid group at first. Really shaped up. Hoping for more this tier! Only a 2 day raiding guild so I’m happpy with whatever

[storm birch]

Oh I’m sorry I shoulda replied to Yunjin in my message I was replying to their message haha

[earnest canyon]

Lol no worries

[limber oar]

Ya we started 2 day raiding in NP, moved to 3 day in LoU hoping for better prog and keeping that now

[storm birch]

We were only 6/8M in NP. Skipped silken and had Queen to last platform of 2.5 but group at the time fell apart Sadge

That’s sick. Best of luck I’ll keep a lookout in here as to how yall prog goes !

[proven stream]

Yeah fair

[limber oar]

After this tier ill prob try making a play for a HoF guild, got a couple offers from some guilds this time but i wanted to stay with these guys 1 more tier

Theyre such a nice group of people

[storm birch]

I got a cool offer but I can’t do 3 days I think my fiance would slaughter me

[limber oar]

Lmfao fair

Ya outside working and upkeeping friendships i dont have a lot to do so i like raiding

[feral ivy]

i got this one release day of the expansion lol

[storm birch]

Yea that’s how I was before I had a kiddo and what not. Tough to squeeze it in now and it not be a stressor

[limber oar]

Just hope we can make the most out of this tier, i can get some sick parses again and then get some good offers

[storm birch]

You got it easy

[limber oar]

Just how it goes, im young and new to the game so i dont have a lot of other external obligations

And still have that sense of wonder and competitive edge that hasnt been worn down by ages of uh… interesting blizzard decisions

Like a lot of the playerbase it feels like

[storm birch]

Not gonna lie after kyveza and how fun she was im keeping fingers crossed for a solo raid one day lmao. That was so fun and cool to be able to prog it at my own pace and all responsibility be on me. Never thought I’d say that about wow

Not like replacing regular raid just saying like a gauntlet of bosses that are hard

[limber oar]

I dont agree with a solo raid but

[feral ivy]

u said u did the ?? rank of kyveza

[storm birch]

Yea

[limber oar]

Cool and interactive solo bosses are always fun

Like if you played osrs

[storm birch]

Yea it was a cool unique challenge for me . Not used to content like that in wow

[limber oar]

The inferno

[storm birch]

Yea Rs player since ‘04 haha

[limber oar]

Was one of the most fun and conplex challenges ive done in gaming

Grinding that on a main and then doing it on an iron in welfare gear

Gave me such a sense of satisfaction and mild superiority

Back when it was still a cool achievement at least

[storm birch]

Yea that’s sick

[feral ivy]

how long it take lol?

[sullen dove]

get a new bit man

[feral ivy]

or how long was the fight for ?? kyvezzaa

[limber oar]

7-8 min

[sullen dove]

mine was like 8 and a half minutes as fury

[limber oar]

As far as attempts that depends on the person and whether you wait between pulls for cds

[feral ivy]

i think i would rage if i go 2% and didnt turn correctly lol so imma wait a bit

[limber oar]

Happened to me at 1.6

[winter shoal]

I did it as prot and it took a bit under 10m

But BSV goes 🅱️razy

[feral ivy]

what do u survive as prot vs fury ? i feel like everything is just 1 shot other than the pull in but that is doable as fury

[earnest canyon]

I can't concentrate for 10mins. I'll need my nap before it ends.

[winter shoal]

Tankiness isn't a problem as either

Dps is similar bc as prot you can use dps brann

Fury dps is still higher ofc

[storm birch]

I think it was like 7:40

[winter shoal]

prot just gets a free fuckup every 3m

[dense fulcrum]

u guys will get reset soon? (in NA)

😄

[chilly fractal]

Everything does 1 shot

[young swan]

like 12 hours minimum

[static rock]

Does anyone know if any of the delve trinkets are gonna be any good at hero track like they were in S2?

[chilly fractal]

There was trinket tuning today so idk yet but doesn’t look like anything crazy

[sullen dove]

o wait im supposed to be spearing not roaring as thane right

[young swan]

really only becomes a thing with tier

[sullen dove]

eh roar mid

[upbeat plume]

our capstones are like 1% at best different for fury lol its really annoying they have 0 identity or different functionality

but we probably wont see any major class changes if any till the next major expansion, since they are gunning pretty hard for advertising on the new expansion we may not even have fated this go around

[woven valley]

Buff roar, throw spear in the trash and give us something else

[sullen dove]

make spear like shadowlands spear

[upbeat plume]

spear is fine now that you dont have to stand it in

in it

[sullen dove]

45s cooldown

8s duration

[dapper goblet]

remove spear

[sullen dove]

remove enhance

[upbeat plume]

legitamately we just need to not have 2 capstones doing roughly the same shit

[sullen dove]

2 undeserved buffs back to back

[woven valley]

Spear is just not fun in its current form. If we are gonna keep it they need to make it worth it

[sullen dove]

doing more dmg with your abilities is always more fun than just put some stupid dot on mobs

[woven valley]

Like you said roar and spear are essentially the same

[sullen dove]

pretty much just what bote is

[upbeat plume]

how the extra damage is done is irrelevant, they both are just mediocre aoe buttons to hit

[woven valley]

I’d like it if they just made spear do the roar bleed or something then, could axe roar and make something more single target focused in its place

[upbeat plume]

that and remove some of the required damage amps in our class tree

[sullen dove]

replace one of them with siegemaker

YEP cocka

[upbeat plume]

fuck no

[sullen dove]

or deathmaker

think that was the legendary

[upbeat plume]

I do not want diet fucking colossus smash to come back

[sullen dove]

random chance to apply siegemaker

[woven valley]

Yeah warrior is filled to the brim with Amps I just wanna do damage and not have all these hurdles

[sullen dove]

fury has like nothing else special to use as like a big single taget ability

[upbeat plume]

Id like to be able to take some of the cool utiliy in our class tree without cutting off my nuts lol

[sullen dove]

unless its like a giga onslaught