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tyty
Frenzy would like a word.
needing 8-12 globals to get back to 'full power' after HAVING to swap targets is, and say it with me, OUTDATED DESIGN
so it suits warrior perfectly i g
difference is that actually contributes to a lot of your damage
exactly, which turns into a "feels awful having to swap targets" rather than a "feels good when you get to just focus target"
Should just be the first sentence and kill the 'different target' part
i mean i agree
but just dont swap
š
and if its an important target swap
or target it initially
remember how salty rogues used to get when combo points were target based rather than player based like now
and they had to swap targets
/ refused to
@dusky moon the shrieking quartz can't be used today right?
this is an insanely dogshit pick
why isnt it only 1% with new tier?
or less
massacre
storm of steel
frenzy
OF capstones
onslaught
tenderize
UF
depths
fucking slaughtering strikes
hack and slash
used for next week for map
xanny boy going thru it
has nothing to do with tuning
who the fuck cares about tuning
all of those talents are just dogshit
what is goin on
oh i agree
did xan miss him answering someone askin for swapping to smf
prob
yeah sorry >.<
lol why does it even exist
who is dan
petition to rename him to Dan
did anyone kill kyveza as fury?
Smf beats arms atm, so theres that
i already kill her as fury
@dusky moon is 3 the cap for how many u can have?
i got 3 then i've done like a bunch more and no item dropped
nope, i know someone with like 12 lmao

how are people doing kyveza already brann don't put out that much healing
by dodging
This
u cant dodge autos..
Is there a way to hide the titan core model from brannās healing? Had that spawn in the middle of the room during memory test phase on kyveza
8 minute fight gone just like that š“
You have to pick more defensive talents, trinkets, and gameplay.
Should only be taking increased damage during dark massacre and nexus rift, rift you should just be spell reflecting like 2 seconds into the pull then run into brann potions
Any burst 3-5 targets chart like this?
Or at least mitigated by brannās base healing
how come tblast takes prio over rampage? ur losing out on rage and ramp doesnt overcap tblast
Cause blast does more damage
at the cost of dmg later on tho cuz less ramps
Wdym
i think he means capping rage means less rampage casts which means less damage
Thereās so much attached to blast though
yea this
Blast just does more
Kyveza isnāt a dps check
Sheās a marathon. Focus on survival sheāll eventually die
child picks marshmallow now instead of 2 marshmallow later
yea i have been this entire time i just now found out tblast is higher
Yo do you have the link to this?
I do not
why are they running wrecking throw in the damage sims? is it some sort of cheese?
Is slayer good in m+ or thane 100% better
thane
isnt delve belt just better?
yeah i was memeing, belt slot 

for bosses with shield. Theres at least one
with new tier set do we prioritise bloodthirst(below %35 with vicious talented/or without) or just spaming raging blow until we ran out stacks @edgy widget
are you asking for aoe or ST
st
Bro i got wb belt and weekly quest belt 
so no more crit tracking on bt KEKW
just sending rb
what about on aoe
you just spam Thunder blast first and then bt
to proc reap we need to press bt right
gotcha tysm
oh for slayer I believe it's still best to press rb up until 6 targets
pretty much
Slayer prioritizes RB unless there are 6+ targets
Thane prioritizes BT all the time
ty sm both @slim coral @edgy widget

guide rotations are up to date btw
Well, WH is; I think IV should update by tomorrow
oh yeah that reminds me shouldnt this just be baseline mortal strike pre execute?
arms is dead so I don't really care was just curious
it's a pretty minor line, but 2x EP has prio just as a failsafe to avoid wasting stacks
sim uses it a whole four times
I havne't played ST arms on ptr so idk how many execute procs you're getting but that's crazy it got it 4 times
where is that list from? :)
it's behind a pay wall
ah damn :D
W;
i dont remember his name
i have it but i want to make you at least put in the work to find it on your own
crazy comms
whyyyyyy cant i just upload a song to spotify
fuck they storage space! i want convenience
skill issue
I unsubbed from Spotify yesterday, I mostly use SoundCloud now
this sounds MORE inconvenient
it started when I looked songs that werenāt on Spotify 6 months ago, now I have too many songs that arenāt on Spotify but on soundclound
Hey guyz, just came back from a long stop, and saw the new 11.2 ST rotation... why do we pick thunderous roar talent if it's that low in priority list ? Did I miss something ?
It does have some interface inconvenience
more of my vocaloid slop is on spotify than on soundcloud if i had to guess
i dont see many jp producers on soundcloud
ig if i REALLY care about my vocaloid slop id probably use youtube music
do you have link this sheet?
but im not ready to make that step yet
Nothing else to take. You can drop it if you want an extra utility node
I was not ready at all, but after some time, I looked at my -10⬠from Spotify yesterday, I just decided to unsub
im a student so i get that discount
Oki š good job from blizz again š thanks
Fury has meaningful and strong CDs according to tettles
But Iām in a massive L for custom radios and weekly playlist
Wym, we do?
When you click avatar
You turn Grey and bigger
thats strong CD
unrelated but my psyche was damaged and i need validation
u ever listen to a song and ur like "damn this is mid" then you listen to it again later and ur like "this is a banger unfortunately"
now i dont trust my own taste
I have the opposite, I add songs but when it comes up, Iām like it is dog wtf
i only add songs if they get stuck in my head after listening to em once
im very very picky
thats why my teto playlist is only 14 songs deep rn ..
And : I listen Russian songs and German rap currently, they are not on Spotify
ive been subjected to german rap to a small degree before
against my will, but not bad generally
Is fury so dead that talking about Spotify is all you guys have
it is 6am to be fair
I grew up 200 m from the German border, I always had some German rap
Ah yes itās 6am everywhere
I am starting to realise that now š
German rap as well, you guys are cooked
You will realize next, a certain amount of ppl talking here donāt even play warrior
i play warrior
and then you'll realize that most of our mods dont play warrior
most of them dont even clock into work
Get out
An example of one who doesnāt play warrior
fake news
how do so many people have 714 reshi wraps wtf did i miss
exploit
i dont think so
also no point
because if anything theyll just delay them from progressing this week
They did the campaign again with their alt


should have exploited

Prove me you are not one
i can vouch
im 2,04m tall that might be enough reason to not be a femboy
innit
im wide asf too
built like a fridge
Damn maybe I am a femboy, Iām 1.74m
wait wait wait
@undone flower the burden is proof is on the person making the accusations
so where is your evidence
Not in the US
ur french


Do we craft wep first with Ascendance for M+?
And for M+ ?
so it's best first craft
the vers embelishment
Ahh on both crafted pieces?
You want max ilvl weapon asap
thats what i said
Why you talk about armor for m+
talking about embelishments
So we go for wep max lvl first with vers embelishment and go for wrist second also with vers embelishment for M+?
You still craft a weapon for m+, and you use writhing on the S2 wrists
i saw it had something to do with an addon but how tf that work
addons cant do stuff like that..
usually
are there any good ways of farming valorstones this week if I've done all world quests already ? I'm debating getting the visions 2h for my offhand but I genuinely dont know how I'll get 1k valorstones
It is an exploit on redoing the campaign on alts
fruiter why did you change your nane
teteteteteteto
spamming delves
what did you say
what is
tetetetete
to
The vision 2 hand was -1300 valorstone for me
that sounds exhausting. how many do u get per delve ? and do u get the same amount from just spamming t1's ?
I think it's discounted cause I have a 691 2 hander already, not sure though
idk how many per delve also you would get a lot of valorstones from spamming keys in 1 day
yee next week it wont be an issue but I wanna go into next week with cap so I can be as strong as possible for splits

i dont get it
we're doing all splits wednesday so
Above +7 it is around 100 valorstone per dungeon
Im non stop capped on valorstones
so do keys ?
Also delete valorstones
ye but I gotta upgrade all the loot from keys and the loot from splits
dont wanna have to go farm valorstones instead of spamming m+
What rank is your guild
uhm 230 I think
you wont always get gear from every key you do and will be crest capped anyways
Pearto>teto
good point
What I level is this ? Didnāt think you could get gear from them in this patch
normal and hc together are like 1400 valorstones
691
also doing the raid yeah
i dont get it
It is similar as brainrot
oh yeah thats a lot
If you understand what I mean
yea so dont worry too much about them
i think my guild is running heroic on tuesday instead of normal
kinda weirdge maybe
is arms, or fury better this season so far?
arms is dead party
Fury from the looks of it
appreciated š
wtf is happening to mechano core amp
why is it over everything else by that much
did every single trinket get nerfed?
wait 714, i thought 707 was max this week?
exploit
fair but i thought 707 and next week it would be 711 so they skipped 2 weeks or am i missing something?
Yes thatās generally how an exploit works
looking at the wowhead thane single target prio list it seems like it's changed from 3 days ago. Bloodthirst always prio over raging blow now. But then some other guy on here said you never even press BT on single target with the new tier set wtf? who even knows what's true anymore, I'm just gonna spec single minded fury and press random buttons
you never press bt with new slayer tier in st
aha just slayer, k
Guides changes when there is a new season, and the change is not sudden
with new tier set you giga spam bloodthirst to farm for
procs yes
as slayer u dont rly press bt yerrr
so even on single target
is prio because of ionizing strikes? :p
blast is just ur highest hitting spell type shii
it is? ;o i thought it does like half the damage of a raging blow :>
are u trolling ?
nope, but I admit I wasn't watching the numbers that closely
its not about watching numbers
just watching the actual damage of spells wont tell u how good smth is
cuz shit like raging blow has infinite modifiers attached
that it provides
i mean, if I hit a deer for 3M with raging blow and for 1M with TB..
I mean
Ay kronzo can u link me a MT build for our current set?
just so you are aware
if ur enraged
you click tblast
regardless of rage
afaik
alright, sounds good to me :p
even bt > rampage? wtf š
no why would we play that garbage
yea because bt gives 
ic!
but yea thats the rotation for the upcoming tier set
Is there any spreadsheet for how much tier sets upgrade for each class? I checked from reddit vb but didnt find any
Really? What are we gonna play in keys?
slayer > thane in the beginning
spam reap the storm
I mean
i think once we hit +10 keys
thane might be equal
but thats same build as last season
Im not entirely sure
the warrior brains know more bout that
tbh im prolly gonna play colo arms up to +10s
DM'd
ctrl f has:link
ik ik
Fury and prot loving this tier set
why is there so much blue, purple and red man why just why
Just try and find enh
dw frost loses very little st to do full aoe
good joke
I thought enh was one of the lowest
it is
How does blizz fuck up an execute based class man...
We should petition to have the lock dev do our numbers cause they let their player base sandbag to shit and back and keep buffing them
I mean someone has to be the lowest
Mage has a dev
im only rep 5 with kareshi trust dawg wtf am i supposed to be at
is there a wa for the best times to push execute?
8 around there I think
Iām at halfway through 8 atm
thanks!
i did forget to have dmf buff up for pinnacle cache/the bounty quest but ive done everything else! unless youve been grinding rares/sidequests
i havent gone out of my way for those
did you pick up the weird collectibles
Why is rep important?
I had dmf buff for most of the stuff Iāve done
you're overcooking this
Also I have done all available rares this week
theres a reusable augment rune from hitting some rep for 100k gold
Got both rare mounts too xD
Yeah it's like rep 18 or something
Iām too poor to want the Augment rune atm
Yeah augment for prog is nice
At 18 you get the augment rune, like in DF
@gleaming siren schmididitoilet
Stop pinging me anda57
im allowed to ping myself buddy
@clever belfry
true
It's funny when I search for anda I appear first, cause you're the fake
can you send me the link to this sheet
How bad is Single Minded Fury for this season?
Same person?
Anyone know a fast delve to grind today?
I'm fucking dying lmaoooo
I jumped on a frost dk and didn't know a thing I was doing in lower ilvl and decimated my fury warriors damage lol
(maybe this is a gameplay issue not a tuning issue)
But they don't have the super fun jump. Same reason I always played barbarian
so not really using cds or anything, short rotational question.
if i rampage and in that enrage window hit bt, rb rb, bt and ramapge again, i drop out of enrage just as i hit the 2nd rampage. is that correct?
Sounds right
or should i still prioritze double RB > BT and miss the 2nd enraged bt
and exeqt on procc for slayer if i understood correct
I rarely touch bt but I'm a minority
i mean bt absolutly slaps w/o LuO 4pc
I switched to mountain thane for aoe
there are conditionals around BT usage, ther wasnt must context in your orignal post
youd only BT if 85% or more crit outside of VC or 35%+ inside of VC
I didn't have season 2 4 piece
VC meaning?
not as bad as s2 since there's no cantrip weapons, but still not good
no VC talented
then when bt has 85% or more crit chance from bloodcraze is when u press
obviously not lmfao
Bt would still hit harder
so why would 85% matter if i otherwise generate downtime?
I often have rb refreshes
vs downtime it doesnt
you arent accounting for rb resets, or just spending your rage if you have it for ramp
when speaking about 85% crit chance is when you are comparing it to pressing rb
Wouldnt RB refreshes also indicate to much usage of Rampage?
u want to press ramp as much as possible
because sure you can press rampage at 80 every time
I thought in thane with tier you are just spamming bloodthirsty and only hitting ragingblow when itās not up
RB I mean
we arent talking about thane we are talking about slayer st in s2 tierset
Oh zzz
im not going to say for certain im sure there is someone here who is smarter than I am who knows but I dont think the conditionals on BT change with tier set
Bloodcraze conditionals dont matter
I see what u mean now I thought u were talking abt s2 set
nono, s2 is over
And i still dont think we will hit Rampage at 80 as prio 1
more likely to try hitting as close to 130 as pos
when did this change? I know it changes with the s3 shit but it surely still matters if u arent wearing s3 tier
Changes with s3 tier
Obvi it still matters till then
You do if you dint have a better button to press
Like raging blow or sudden death execute with conditionals
Okay
So conclusion BT is worse Button than Rampage but RB is better than Rampage and so is Execute when Sudden Death procs with new 4pc
At least you're not in my guild, guys
What hero tree are we using before the new tier in m+?
love it! thanks
For m+ i would say Slayer for prio dam
This may be the most hilarious thing Iāve seen for a bit
Wild lol
its good
Holey, moley, poor healers 
I kinda get it tho, but that fight for a healer got to be like 15-25min of pure focus.
For tanks and DPS? I mean, sure. Why not have it be a requirement
switch spec if u are healer

if u cant execute ur rotation idk
Guess he should demand vods, to make sure ya don't do it on wrong class/spec
legit most irrelevant part of playing the game imo
Vods with camera recording hands and face
Ppl could just spend the 700k for the boost 
Tettles doing 200 attempts was also pretty funny
Ask them for proof
i gave up on my rogue :caught:
i die on 3rd set
cloak evasion on cd
i die through feint
maybe cause brann is lvl40
and im low ahh ilvl
200? That is respectable no?
I am at 102 wipes at 22% 
Stupid Brann creates the Titanic orb and my eyes go all: Shiiiiny
This caused me to die a few times for sure
I preferred that over DPS Brann though⦠heād hop on his gryphon and then not move with the circle and weād die

you can just place portal far away and then leap last second if that happens. bingchilling
Setup 1button rotation beat it and send him the vod

real
Was fine killed it with healer Brann
I tried to use the 1 button as a meme in there and it didnāt work
Hi Archi. Is this "no changes til 4 set" or "no changes til 2 set"? Just want to be sure.
Youāll likely replace S2 4p with ilvl and then replace S2 2p with S3 2p
For sure, but more curious if we should swap talents at 2 set or 4 set.
I believe itās 2 set but I was planning to sim that when the time comes
Talents donāt change I thought
Wonder if Archi got ping notifications on for Sky hold. Surely not, right?
Yea same
I fucking hope not
To be a mod and a guide writer for 1.5 specs is asking to be pinged a lot
As well as everything else he does
Itās not a timewalking week
Ya ran out of time, ain't time walking event
Next week is Wrath timewalking

They should just make it a permanent weekyl rotating event imo
D:
so why does current fury sim not use thunderous roar on pull
why would it
When did this change
You are allowed to compare raging blow damage and roar
When did we open with roar?
Roar is like Whirlwind in ST
S2 opener didnāt press roar until you consumed the SS stacks
at no point this season did we open with roar
^
Nop thatās S1 opener
that is mugzee number 2 parse mythic this season
maybe the number 1 parse doesn't use it
that does not make it the optimal rotation

Yes ? It doesnāt mean if it is the opener you will see in sims
The difference between doing roar before BS and roar after SS rampage is hyper minimal
that's coz whether you roar in opener or not barely matters. like really does not matter
fight timing / proc luck / raid comp matters way more for dmg than using roar before or after bs, you can still get a rank 1 by not doing the optimal rotation
Some people like it to line uo with avatar permanently (im some people)
Or the difference between pressing roar or raging blow
Idk legit every log ive looked at entire season have had roar before BS on opener
Is technically not the most optimal but most people do it from what i saw
Bc they are used to the S1 opener
also some high logs do the rb spam after bs, some dont
minor rotation optimization do not affect dmg as much as other factors
So its technically not better but it doesnt matter at all in the grand scheme
wasn't really a big deal to or not during s2, but you don't in s3 now
I did the S1 opener until mid season S2
i guarantee you, 1 global difference in opener is such an extremely minor difference
rng difference pull to pull for marked for exe procs will affect dmg more than which order you press roar
thats for sure
Context of the entire fight matters way more than a 0.X% play
Its just a hyper minimal optimization. Youre more than likely not going to notice any dmg difference between the 2 (in s2)
exactly
So s3 i know our capstones are dog
Some people just did it cause the convenience of having roar and avatar on the same CD was nice
(Im some people)
Idk every log i looked at all season seemed to do it so hearing that was shocking
nothing has changed really from s2 to s3. dogshit capstones either way
And : used to S1 opener were you had odyn fury from avatar and enrage, so you hit roar asap
roar before bs is mostly muscle memory from previous seasons im willing to claim
Again its legitimately probably a 0.03% increase (the number is out my ass but its really low)
Super negligible
Sometimes I roared before BS if I wanted it to hit adds before they died
Just send roar w Ava for sake of laziness/10 over here
Like for bandit
I think it is a 0.0X difference bc you just move roar from couple gcd
It is still in reck duration etc
it should be more than margin of error otherwise it wouldnt be in the apl
So who cares
Well we all know whose fault it is when Dimensius mythic wipes on 0.01% then!
I dunno I appeared on the meter for a second
How do i compare the damage between the abilitys on quick sim then?
What do you mean goran?
Im not sure someone told me i can compare the abilities
Quick sim should already display that
I took it as I can replace them in cast sequence
but maybe i mis udnersstood what they meant when they said compare
Yes, it is a different talk when you say AoE roar, but you are betting they will survive the bleed when you compare with just hitting shit with raging blow
True true
Sim it š
You can sim it yes
Pretty sure itās only like half a percent these days lol
I will not bother since my guild wants me to have it anyway
yea thats what it simmed at but that was in my current gear not maxed
Can you sim them tho
You can itās a buff
Yes you can sim consumables
no everyone is gaslighting
But what about them
dont believe the lies
Damn donāt let them know
I'm not talking about the rune
Yes sandbag how POWERFUL the rune is, it is definitely what makes the diff between orange parse and blue
You guys get parses?
BT completely dropped from rotation next season unless we got nothing else to hit right?
Everyone gets a parse as long as someone is logging and the boss dies. It's just mine are usually grey 
I can now join your guilds raid team

Basically same
Is best in slot simming higher than a 691 vet wep? Cuz for me it does and itās crazy
I volunteer to do mechanics
Hey guys, qq. Iv'e been playing Fury for the last 3 months now. Really enjoying it, managed to get over3k io in season 2. I am looking to optimize my dmg output even further and was thinking the only way by doing so is by utilizing macros. I was just curious if anyone can share their experience or possibility pm with something that has worked for them. Slayer for raids and Thane for M+. Not really looking for the M+ build as I don't think it would be beneficial consider everything going on with interrupts, constant changing targets etc. But think I could significantly increase output on single targt with the proper macro and rotation. Thanks in advance.
So is tier helm bis for us or this bone-melted one? Seeing conflicting
rotation needs logs, macros there really aren't many besides ensuring mouseover kick/cc
enough rep for week 1
I mean like send cds on cd
If u forget its more about trackin cds
U can ofc use the @player for rav to speed up shit, but it wont change a bad parse to good
Did anyone post God Emperor "Scat Man" Dratnos raid comp prediction yet?
Rotation is found on WoWhead, #dps-faq, for us to be able to help you more directly bring logs and vods to #1347646810457636974. If you mean ability macros that is often used and not personalised, they are in the macro section on WoWhead. You can also search in here, top right search bar, for macro keyword and find discussions about it.
not eonugh warlocks
I never bothered with ptr cos I didnt want spoilers/cba.....FDK is that strong??
so FDK is top melee and warlock is top ranged?
Based on Sims, yes
By a large margin
warriors max burst š¤”
š¤£
Chat are we cooked
why fire mage with us.. damn blizzard!
It's the same issue with Fury, they just have CDs too frequently for them to be impactful
What are these from
Thanks Iām going to kill myself
nah... just play DK
Not why
We have to high rotational dmg
So we cant have spikes
Blizzard made our profile flat. So ofc we cant burst
i quit but im still sticking round discord to see how they shaft warrior in the new tier
I mean having a flat damage profile isnāt that bad but when there are so many damage amps this tier
kinda sucks
Thatās just for ST too, rogue gonna jump up on cleave fights
Ye profile is not bad. But rough this tier
Though in gen burst is better
Like means u need to play perfectly seldomly
Or well less
We just need a rework I think
GG
I mean imho fury doesnt rly
arms is getting a rework before fury ever does
More a tuning of talents
Iāll take anything really
Arms needed god for like 3 tiers
No but like retune of + roar // spear and we get more.burst on demand
Throw in a bladestorm // rav buff
arms rework where they remove it
Give arms war challenging shout so we can make full use of die by the sword parry uptime!!
Iād take an arms rework
legit just make their CDs line up
feels so ass
Demolish is fun af to press
yeah its over
Rl said save catalyst for next week for the guaranteed myth track catalyze
I personally wouldnt catalyze heroic or below
Wait a minuteā¦
I didnt realise itās you
fuck
Just buff col to be top st spec for arms
And much would be saved
Oh y and 1st swing of demo should always be cs
Isnāt col already the best mplus spec? Why would you want it to be both?
arms removed replaced with gladiator
My old brain is slightly happy that we're more or less back to Raging Blow / Rampage spam like in Dragonflight again. In to the sea with bloodthirst
Go play dragon
They press mass disintegrate 3 times back to back
Sold
If you cannot defeat Kyveza, do not bother showing up to raid. This boss is a baseline mechanics check. If you cannot handle mechanics while maintaining a strong DPS or HPS rotation, you will only drag the group down on the harder fights ahead.
This is not optional. This is not "just a warm-up boss." This is the fight that tells us whether you can balance your gameplay fundamentals aka: awareness, movement, uptime, and performance but all at once. If you fail here, you will fail later.
If you can't be bothered to put in the hours to grind this fight, you are disrespecting the other 26 players on this roster who are putting in the work. This is a preparatory fight for a multi-week raid, and it requires commitment. If you can't commit now, you won't commit later.
You all said you wanted to improve as a raid and get a better ranking. That doesn't start with someone else carrying you, it starts with you improving your own gameplay. If you can't do that, you're dead weight. And yes, I'm talking to you, you slug.
And before anyone even thinks about saying, "my class isn't designed for this encounter" fucking save it. I've seen hundreds of Chinese VODs of Kyveza beaten on every single spec and every single hero talent combination possible. The fight is beatable. The capability exists. The only difference between them and you is execution and effort.
So here's the bottom line: Beat Kyveza before raid night, or don't show up.
new to fury, is making sure you have stacks of whirlwind prio over everything in aoe pull?
yes but if you play thane you should have those stacks naturally by pressing TC on cooldown
what we crafting first?
the weapon
Weppy as always brother
i figured so, thnx
And I disagree heavily w Drattys prediction this tier lol, way overvaluing aug and frost synergy
yeah not enough aoe fights
More likely to swap to a UH DK if you're gonna go that HAM to abuse the burst
so the one-button ability lets me @target spear and ravager, but i cant macro it anymore?
why would ion do this
Blizz hates us confirmed
the only button that has the requirement of point & click
can't be fucked to learn to do it
NGMI
you got brain damage or something
stand on enemies, cast @ player
Considering I can spear players, no
@cursor, call it a day
yeah those are all fine but its silly we cant have it back when the one-button does it
its not that im not aware of them, its inconsistency in rules
imagine if pvp players will put the OBR on their bars only for spear for aim botting players
yeah sure but its got a gcd penalty
Do you remember the kick macro that was running around in DF
no
It was a macro that let you only kick if it was kickable
that couldnt have lasted long
thats why i dont remember it then
You legit wouldn't care
If I could snap fire a Spear into some priest instantly he's dead, one gcd penalty or not
is there any good boss guide/videos where i can see personal CD usage for the new raid?
gotta wait for NA release
just macro it
and in the situation you would need to auto aim spear : you are in range, so the gcd don't really matter
it's special action button
Not necessarily, I could Spear > the teammate's CDs > dead priest storage
yes it is just that 0.3 sec before you charge the target or walk is not very important
Hi guys, did fury receive a HEAVY ST nerf with the new patch or am I just garbage now? I'm at 2.74m damage doing a 5 minute rotation on a target dummy with ilvl 685 gear. This is less than I was doing in May.
Also unrelated question: how do I get an accurate sim? Under quick sim on raidbots, a target dummy sim is 2.456m while a patchwerk quick sim is 3.204m. Am I just 500k off my sim?
Wow head has mountain thane, videos Iām watching for rotation have slayer for m+. Is there a right or wrong here or play whatever? Oneās gotta do more dmg than the other right?
But unrelated, I wanna get more into rtwf this time round, what do you find the best platforms to keep up with it are, would be cool to see the potential comps etc
Target dummy sims don't have an execute phase, patchwork is what you want to use 99% of the time
Understandable, so I am just garbage. Thanks for the confirmation
Also Fury only received buff's so it's likely that you're making mistakes.
I'd normally point you towards Wowhead but it's been updated for season 3 so it's not really relevant for what's currently available to us.
I don't know what that is. But I think that having minimal ego is the fastest way to improve as a player
Nah mate don't say that, you might be making mistakes but that just means there's something to work towards
Is Fresh Meat dog-doo for M+? I was curious if the reduced importance of bloodlust makes it good to open up with BT on a pack so you can enrage pre thunderblast->rampage
Collector's bounty rusted me so much that I swapped over to arms, but my trial guild wants a fury so I'm trying to either be better than the arms guy they have or swap to fury
Need to skip today and it be tomorrow already
So Fury's gonna be performing better than arms by a noticeable margin unless more tuning happens so getting readjusted to Fury is a good idea.

Ok gotcha thanks
You can enrage pre thunder blast. Just get a rampage in before you blast
That being said you shouldn't worry too much about performance between you and the Arms player until you have full set since the difference between last season's set and this season's set is far bigger for Fury than it is for Arms.
Some see a hand holding a hammer⦠others see a blue and white question mark
Thanks friend. Thought I may be leaving some opener damage on the table by doing Ramp->TB->Ramp instead of BT->TB->Ramp
I prefer the question mark
Not played slayer in time finding Iām not as able to keep up enrage as much as Thane unsure why
The idea that it could be anything OTHER than a question mark didn't occur to me until you said it just now
Yea i mean fwiw, fury rotation once you get tier set is going to be pretty straight forward, youāll smash that arms warrior to the point that theyāll wanna respec
Nope! Much better than talenting FM cause there isnāt much room point-wise to talent into that
Lmao I never even noticed that
A lot less bloodthirst usage means less enrage bumps from DE. Should still be getting lots of opportunities to rampage though
I saw some people dropping Vicious Contempt for Crit Thinking/2nd point deft experience. I normally play tank so I struggle when I can't use RaiderIO to see what talents people are running
Guys, do we have 11.2 Spell Reflect wa?
Currently just looking at the wowhead guide guess thatās taking into account the tier? But yeah I will try give it another go to the dummies I go
wtf it is a hammer
i always thought it was a ?
BT has much lower priority for slayer going into the new tier sets. Thane is looking to high prio BT . So yea just depends on the build
Iām deffos just playing it wrong guessing weād still have 100% uptime with enrage
aaahhh thank you. That explains my disconnect!
Yea the DE points help. Especially during bladestorm since no one likes to drop enrage during a bladestorm.
Cheers! Pop off š«”
In an AoE scenario you def shouldnāt have any issues with enrage. On rare occasions I could see a possible enrage drop here and there on ST but for the most part especially with DE it should be pretty much 100%
@storm birch So I'm seeing people considering dropping Hack and Slash for MT in keys. This is because of the increased priority of pressing thunderblasts leading to less charges of raging blow needed rotationally?
Pretty much
After spending a day on frost dk i logged in on fury to finish dungs and oh man it's so much more fun but I got crippling depression when i compared the dps
You press tb/bt often enough that you wonāt really run out of charges
Damn dude. Go play Fdk if you have crippling depression from the dps diff
Not just the increases prio but also the fact that you have the chance to spam TB on resets. So yea it takes up much more of your time and lowers the need for RB drastically
On ptr I hardly found myself using RB except boss fights
Assuming you donāt magically have 4p somehow youāre still experiencing the bad dps from last tier. Itās gets a ton better
And I'm guessing this talent swap isn't until we get our hands on the tier set since the regular TB procs aren't often enough to drop it yet
Yup wait till tier
My hero, cheers
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Think my disconnect is ensuring whirlwind is up for every rampage when I whirlwind enrage drops off
Or do I want to be enraged before whirlwind
Got my Flickering title letās go
Enraged always. You should be able to Fit 4 GCDs in your enraged window.
Hey guys, apologies if this is a palm-and-forehead question but I have to ask; with Mountain Thane and the talents for Thunderclap, Is it better to use Thunderclap over Whirlwind to trigger our cleave? Or only Thunderclap when Thunderblast is procād? Thanks in advance.
But all things considered ww would be the best one out of all to use unenraged
So ensure the rampage t before the whirlwind and rinse and repeat
Yeah makes sense thanks
Clap clap clap
Take ww off your bars if you are playing thane
Understood, thanks so much. šš»
If enrage is falling off and you still have a stack of WW to use and rampage available yea just rampage to refresh enrage
and don't forget the raid buffs adds up to a big chunk of your dps
since sims have all raid buffs, you only have shout
Yea I think you can turn all of that off if you really wanted to see your natty dps on the sim
Iām no Sim Samuel though
mark of the wild 3% vers / monk 5% / shaman >2%
it can adds up to a huge diff if you don't have them
im sad
there were these new 2 handed weapons from the karesh zone that you could tmog and they would be attached at the hip like one handers but now they arent doing it anymore
so mountain thane m+ and slayer ST raid?
Because tracking juggernaut sucks, and col profile would rock for current tier
is bladestorm in MT a big dps loss? such a more fun spell to hit
with the new tier set as thane? probably bigger than last season
oof
how big is the dps difference between slayer and thane in m+? 5-10%
More
means less 
if you could cast thunderclap during bs....would make me happy
Def not advised
also bs damage is balanced around slayer being able to make it do 50% more hits
so if it became strong enough for thane to use, slayer would probably start winning in aoe
Yea thereās BS talents baked into the slayer talent tree
out of curiousity i tried bladestorm just now on thane and man it really doesnt do shit for damage without slayer buffing it up
So I am switching to fury warrior at the 11th hour due to our warrior taking a break. But I have zero Undermine tier. Any spec suggestions until I get new tier?
Stick with slayer until you get new 4p
For M+ as well? Any talent changes compared to current spec suggestions?
Longggggg time arms player struggling to hit my sim as Fury on target dummy, any mistakes that you guys fixed that let you consistently hit your dummy sim?
Sim is prioritizing RB over BT so just doing that for better comparison, I have 99%+ uptime on enrage, I'm never messing up my sudden death/ jug management, rampaging over 115 rage, not over capping rage unless its to stack RB buff to rampage following a bladestorm
Consistently 5-10% below my dummy sim and its driving me crazy cause I log arms or my ww and I basically hit or exceed my sim every single time
BT should only be touched at 85%+ crit or below 35%
You might be looking at the rotation for S3 while still in S2 gear lol
And if so, I wouldn't really bother spending time learning the S2 1 intimately the day before the new tier anyway
Simming Target dummy, its definitely the season 3 rotation, its not prioritizing bloodthirst regardless of crit, but I've just been doing the season 3 rotation so I can compare it better
stick to the season 2 talents / rotation it should still be better even without any tier set at all, with the new 4set switch to the s3 talents / playstyle ofc. for m+ play thane
I wouldnāt bother too heavily on the no S3 tier period
Gonna run 2p2p as soon as you can
so much talk of the s3 rotation, will we not press BT anymore? I've been living in the prot warrior world lately š
Assuming we can spam more RB?
Thane: always BT
slayer: BT is filler
rgr so essentially, just spam RB untill your rampage is ready and repeat that untill you can't no more xD
Spam RB until you're above 115 rage, you run out of RB, or enrage will drop
False
Welll ofc it goes without saying keeping enrage up ofc š
Is it 6 max coffer keys this week btw?
But you'll legit ignore ramp unless over 115 rage, out of RBs, or enrage will drop was my point
I see lots of people pressing ramp as soon as it lights up
right so only rampage if you have over 115 rage rgr
yea ive been doing that alot currently
Yeah this is me currently need to get in the flow
Use the fact that RB hits harder to ensure you'll never, ever risk running out of rage/useful buttons to press
Honestly, this is how the class should be designed. Not to waste rage. 
I'll just add the condition for rampage to have to hit 115 rage no biggy
I usually find by the end of heroic week I'm into the flow pretty good of w/e changes, there's no need to parse lord week 1
BUT RB NEEDS MORE BUFFS OSAAAAAA
GIVE THEM RB BUFFFFFSSSSSS
Fr though, and that's a good idea Vert
S2 DF was goated because it was a feed ramp ramp quicker CDs loop
And it made sense lol
yea that shit was good
Lol, if I were to buff anything for Fury it would be Odyn's Fury, Roar, Spear, and Rampage itself.
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That or full rework.
id remove spear and replace it with a different spell
That would fix the spec feeling so empty with every button press lol
Ramp used to feel good because it WAS our strongest ability
Like when you're arms and you get 3 MS resets back to back you feel like a god
honestly just make odyn's fury worth atleast so fucking dumb it's not
REAL
season one odyns pissed blizzard off so they gutted it and then changed its position on the tree to fuck it again
Can't wait to see FDK do exactly what we did to adds this tier and get zero nerfs because of it
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remember when Sudden death was a massive dopamine hit. You just itched and prayed for it to pop.
Yep lol
Now it's just an annoying light up button on my screen
That I ignore until I hear DING

speaking of frost dk. they feel fun to play
Frost is interesting, it's very slow coming from warr
Hey guys, do you know of any warrior who did the PTR tests in the raid and has saved vod?
Critcake
I might give mine another go....one of the few 80s I have with UI and binds etc setup....I keep meaning to gear a healer but I just look at the abilities and trying to figure out what to bind where and I just shut wow down and do something else
Give us fae stomp back, big juicy aoe and change the knockdown to an interrupt would feel great on caster packs
Healing is lame as fuck
Most healers are masochists
sure but if i want to do low M+ with friends its usually a healer we lack, not dps or tanks....and I have like everything at 80 (not an achievement I know, you can go 1-80 in retail faster than a taco bell order), but i just only play warr and hunter
If I EVER got forced to heal (lolgl) I'd play fistweaving monk atthe most
At this point I even forgot his drama so idc
on raid? so I was able to test it on m+
I want you to login one day and the only class available to you is holy priest...just for a day....on a raid day.....
Who is Zaelia?
It's Zelda's sister, from the Nintendo games
idk if money will fix that unless they literally buy the top western raiders

Would quit/10
Aah, ok, makes more sense now.
Healer with some drama, a bit of googlin will spoil my joke lol
Holy priest, Jesus. At least let him play something like a Resto Shaman or MW monk. Not Holy.
Bro China ain't gonna do shit without buying Liquid or Echos rosters
Even this Method rework etc probably doesn't take 1 of the spots from Liquid/Echo, not yet anyway
All it did was weaken Echo a bit, Liquid is gonna win by quite a bit again I think
Cope harder
China #1
Spongie going to China confirmed
There really do need to be another 2 big guilds to step up. The two horse race is boring.
They just buy anyone who looks super good from 3-10 onto Echo/Liquid lol
xDD
Wait how many went from Echo to Method
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