#fury

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smoky vale
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cshb

boreal widget
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tyty

worn yoke
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Frenzy would like a word.

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needing 8-12 globals to get back to 'full power' after HAVING to swap targets is, and say it with me, OUTDATED DESIGN

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so it suits warrior perfectly i g

smoky vale
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difference is that actually contributes to a lot of your damage

worn yoke
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exactly, which turns into a "feels awful having to swap targets" rather than a "feels good when you get to just focus target"
Should just be the first sentence and kill the 'different target' part

smoky vale
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i mean i agree

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but just dont swap

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šŸ™‚

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and if its an important target swap

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or target it initially

worn yoke
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remember how salty rogues used to get when combo points were target based rather than player based like now

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and they had to swap targets

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/ refused to

surreal token
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@dusky moon the shrieking quartz can't be used today right?

smoky vale
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it can

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shouldnt be though

young swan
surreal token
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the loot doesn't drop?

smoky vale
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or less

young swan
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massacre

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storm of steel

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frenzy

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OF capstones

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onslaught

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tenderize

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UF

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depths

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fucking slaughtering strikes

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hack and slash

dusky moon
surreal token
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xanny boy going thru it

smoky vale
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surely cshb is just less than those talents with new tier

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or am i coping

young swan
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has nothing to do with tuning

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who the fuck cares about tuning

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all of those talents are just dogshit

sullen dove
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what is goin on

smoky vale
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oh i agree

sullen dove
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did xan miss him answering someone askin for swapping to smf

smoky vale
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prob

sullen dove
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that cshb is the most shit talent to drop

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u dont use like the rest of those no

open prairie
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People ask for smf

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only to mog the most obnoxiously massive 1handers

smoky vale
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gm xan

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are you enjoying dota 2

young swan
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oh i mean u just drop a stat node

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like 99%

smoky vale
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no way you drop a stat node

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crit gives rb more shit

young swan
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was consumed by rage

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yeah deft so value

smoky vale
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yeah sorry >.<

open prairie
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smf is just

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one of the most useless talent nodes

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ever

surreal token
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lol why does it even exist

olive wraith
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We have a lot of useless talents

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Xan just listed like 8

smoky vale
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who is dan

surreal token
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petition to rename him to Dan

pseudo cedar
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did anyone kill kyveza as fury?

sudden tusk
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couple people have

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i cba getting autoed to death so i just played prot

fading sky
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Smf beats arms atm, so theres that

final eagle
surreal token
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@dusky moon is 3 the cap for how many u can have?

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i got 3 then i've done like a bunch more and no item dropped

cobalt relic
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lets goo

dusky moon
cobalt relic
brittle crow
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how are people doing kyveza already brann don't put out that much healing

light tapir
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by dodging

dense sedge
brittle crow
wheat oyster
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Is there a way to hide the titan core model from brann’s healing? Had that spawn in the middle of the room during memory test phase on kyveza

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8 minute fight gone just like that 😓

pallid gyro
wheat oyster
# brittle crow u cant dodge autos..

Should only be taking increased damage during dark massacre and nexus rift, rift you should just be spell reflecting like 2 seconds into the pull then run into brann potions

brittle crow
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idk the fight i havent tried xd

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i just assume u get auto'd to death

wheat oyster
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Nope

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Her auto damage is pretty low

brave thorn
wheat oyster
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Or at least mitigated by brann’s base healing

brittle crow
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how come tblast takes prio over rampage? ur losing out on rage and ramp doesnt overcap tblast

olive wraith
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Cause blast does more damage

brittle crow
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at the cost of dmg later on tho cuz less ramps

flat river
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listen to guide

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archi never fails

flat river
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i think he means capping rage means less rampage casts which means less damage

olive wraith
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There’s so much attached to blast though

olive wraith
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Blast just does more

thorn star
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Kyveza isn’t a dps check

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She’s a marathon. Focus on survival she’ll eventually die

brittle crow
olive wraith
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That’s not that works

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Go prio rampage above all and report back

brittle crow
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yea i have been this entire time i just now found out tblast is higher

vast steppe
cobalt relic
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I do not

warm wharf
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why are they running wrecking throw in the damage sims? is it some sort of cheese?

pallid hull
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Is slayer good in m+ or thane 100% better

slim coral
shell jackal
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world boss was nice to me for once gladge

high sedge
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isnt delve belt just better?

shell jackal
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yeah i was memeing, belt slot keks

high sedge
dark heron
trail thistle
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with new tier set do we prioritise bloodthirst(below %35 with vicious talented/or without) or just spaming raging blow until we ran out stacks @edgy widget

trail thistle
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st

slim coral
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you just spam rb until boss dies

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use BT as filler

eternal sundial
trail thistle
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just sending rb

slim coral
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correct

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you can delete it

trail thistle
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what about on aoe

slim coral
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you just spam Thunder blast first and then bt

trail thistle
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to proc reap we need to press bt right

trail thistle
slim coral
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oh for slayer I believe it's still best to press rb up until 6 targets

trail thistle
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basicly we only prioritise bt for thane

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rb for slayer until 6 target

slim coral
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pretty much

edgy widget
trail thistle
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ty sm both @slim coral @edgy widget

slim coral
edgy widget
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guide rotations are up to date btw

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Well, WH is; I think IV should update by tomorrow

slim coral
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arms is dead so I don't really care was just curious

edgy widget
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it's a pretty minor line, but 2x EP has prio just as a failsafe to avoid wasting stacks

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sim uses it a whole four times

smoky vale
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mr archimtiros how do i find old wowhead guides for fury

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:3

slim coral
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I havne't played ST arms on ptr so idk how many execute procs you're getting but that's crazy it got it 4 times

near hamlet
slim coral
near hamlet
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ah damn :D

smoky vale
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or scroll up

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some guy leaked it

slim coral
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W;

smoky vale
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i dont remember his name

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i have it but i want to make you at least put in the work to find it on your own

slim coral
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crazy comms

warm crag
slim coral
brittle crow
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whyyyyyy cant i just upload a song to spotify

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fuck they storage space! i want convenience

flat river
undone flower
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I unsubbed from Spotify yesterday, I mostly use SoundCloud now

brittle crow
undone flower
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it started when I looked songs that weren’t on Spotify 6 months ago, now I have too many songs that aren’t on Spotify but on soundclound

coarse lotus
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Hey guyz, just came back from a long stop, and saw the new 11.2 ST rotation... why do we pick thunderous roar talent if it's that low in priority list ? Did I miss something ?

undone flower
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It does have some interface inconvenience

brittle crow
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more of my vocaloid slop is on spotify than on soundcloud if i had to guess

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i dont see many jp producers on soundcloud

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ig if i REALLY care about my vocaloid slop id probably use youtube music

modest kernel
brittle crow
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but im not ready to make that step yet

junior gale
undone flower
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I was not ready at all, but after some time, I looked at my -10€ from Spotify yesterday, I just decided to unsub

brittle crow
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im a student so i get that discount

coarse lotus
junior gale
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Fury has meaningful and strong CDs according to tettles

undone flower
lapis shadow
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When you click avatar

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You turn Grey and bigger

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thats strong CD

brittle crow
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now i dont trust my own taste

undone flower
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I have the opposite, I add songs but when it comes up, I’m like it is dog wtf

brittle crow
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i only add songs if they get stuck in my head after listening to em once

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im very very picky

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thats why my teto playlist is only 14 songs deep rn ..

undone flower
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And : I listen Russian songs and German rap currently, they are not on Spotify

brittle crow
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ive been subjected to german rap to a small degree before

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against my will, but not bad generally

vagrant mica
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Is fury so dead that talking about Spotify is all you guys have

brittle crow
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it is 6am to be fair

undone flower
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I grew up 200 m from the German border, I always had some German rap

vagrant mica
vagrant mica
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German rap as well, you guys are cooked

undone flower
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You will realize next, a certain amount of ppl talking here don’t even play warrior

smoky vale
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i play warrior

brittle crow
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most of them dont even clock into work

vagrant mica
undone flower
smoky vale
undone flower
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Camillax is your new identity

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Camillax57

smoky vale
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no

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slayer fury just isnt fun

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and arms does 0 dps

remote bobcat
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how do so many people have 714 reshi wraps wtf did i miss

smoky vale
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exploit

remote bobcat
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so

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uh

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i cant get it?

smoky vale
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i dont think so

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also no point

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because if anything theyll just delay them from progressing this week

undone flower
remote bobcat
smoky vale
remote bobcat
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i want it on my main tho

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😠

smoky vale
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should have exploited

remote bobcat
undone flower
remote bobcat
flat river
ivory ingot
undone flower
flat river
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i can vouch

remote bobcat
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innit

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im wide asf too

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built like a fridge

undone flower
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Damn maybe I am a femboy, I’m 1.74m

flat river
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wait wait wait

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@undone flower the burden is proof is on the person making the accusations

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so where is your evidence

remote bobcat
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ur french

flat river
remote bobcat
undone flower
proud vessel
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Do we craft wep first with Ascendance for M+?

flat river
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for raid yes

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but generally you want to craft a two-hander at max ilvl

proud vessel
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And for M+ ?

flat river
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so it's best first craft

flat river
proud vessel
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Ahh on both crafted pieces?

flat river
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yeah

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for armor

undone flower
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You want max ilvl weapon asap

flat river
undone flower
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Why you talk about armor for m+

flat river
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talking about embelishments

proud vessel
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So we go for wep max lvl first with vers embelishment and go for wrist second also with vers embelishment for M+?

undone flower
brittle crow
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addons cant do stuff like that..

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usually

fossil grove
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are there any good ways of farming valorstones this week if I've done all world quests already ? I'm debating getting the visions 2h for my offhand but I genuinely dont know how I'll get 1k valorstones

undone flower
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It is an exploit on redoing the campaign on alts

smoky vale
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fruiter why did you change your nane

brittle crow
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teteteteteteto

smoky vale
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what did you say

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what is

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tetetetete

brittle crow
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to

undone flower
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The vision 2 hand was -1300 valorstone for me

fossil grove
fossil grove
smoky vale
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idk how many per delve also you would get a lot of valorstones from spamming keys in 1 day

fossil grove
cobalt relic
smoky vale
fossil grove
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we're doing all splits wednesday so

undone flower
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Above +7 it is around 100 valorstone per dungeon

iron portal
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Im non stop capped on valorstones

smoky vale
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so do keys ?

iron portal
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Also delete valorstones

brittle crow
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(its teto)

fossil grove
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ye but I gotta upgrade all the loot from keys and the loot from splits

remote bobcat
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its low

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why is it low

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😠

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exploiterrs

fossil grove
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dont wanna have to go farm valorstones instead of spamming m+

iron portal
fossil grove
smoky vale
undone flower
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Pearto>teto

dense sedge
hardy bluff
smoky vale
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also doing the raid yeah

undone flower
fossil grove
undone flower
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If you understand what I mean

hardy bluff
brittle crow
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i think my guild is running heroic on tuesday instead of normal

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kinda weirdge maybe

winged oracle
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is arms, or fury better this season so far?

brittle crow
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arms is dead party

stiff barn
winged oracle
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appreciated šŸ™‚

remote bobcat
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wtf is happening to mechano core amp

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why is it over everything else by that much

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did every single trinket get nerfed?

proud vessel
smoky vale
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exploit

proud vessel
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fair but i thought 707 and next week it would be 711 so they skipped 2 weeks or am i missing something?

remote bobcat
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its an exlpoit

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u cant get it

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i cant get it

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we're all sad

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yeppers

vagrant mica
heavy nacelle
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looking at the wowhead thane single target prio list it seems like it's changed from 3 days ago. Bloodthirst always prio over raging blow now. But then some other guy on here said you never even press BT on single target with the new tier set wtf? who even knows what's true anymore, I'm just gonna spec single minded fury and press random buttons

smoky vale
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you never press bt with new slayer tier in st

heavy nacelle
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aha just slayer, k

undone flower
remote bobcat
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as slayer u dont rly press bt yerrr

heavy nacelle
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so even on single target blast is prio because of ionizing strikes? :p

remote bobcat
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blast is just ur highest hitting spell type shii

heavy nacelle
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it is? ;o i thought it does like half the damage of a raging blow :>

remote bobcat
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are u trolling ?

heavy nacelle
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nope, but I admit I wasn't watching the numbers that closely

remote bobcat
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its not about watching numbers

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just watching the actual damage of spells wont tell u how good smth is

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cuz shit like raging blow has infinite modifiers attached

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that it provides

heavy nacelle
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i mean, if I hit a deer for 3M with raging blow and for 1M with TB..

remote bobcat
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I mean

surreal token
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Ay kronzo can u link me a MT build for our current set?

remote bobcat
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just so you are aware

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if ur enraged

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you click tblast

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regardless of rage

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afaik

heavy nacelle
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alright, sounds good to me :p

remote bobcat
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its legit

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as long as ur enraged

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tblast > bt > rampage

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u dont rampage much

heavy nacelle
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even bt > rampage? wtf šŸ˜›

remote bobcat
remote bobcat
heavy nacelle
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ic!

remote bobcat
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but yea thats the rotation for the upcoming tier set

trail thistle
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Is there any spreadsheet for how much tier sets upgrade for each class? I checked from reddit vb but didnt find any

surreal token
remote bobcat
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spam reap the storm

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I mean

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i think once we hit +10 keys

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thane might be equal

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but thats same build as last season

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Im not entirely sure

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the warrior brains know more bout that

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tbh im prolly gonna play colo arms up to +10s

remote bobcat
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hehe

remote bobcat
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ik ik

spare steppe
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Fury and prot loving this tier set

remote bobcat
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cant wait to give warrior tier sets to prot warr over fury warr

smoky vale
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gonna be hype af

remote bobcat
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why is there so much blue, purple and red man why just why

spare steppe
smoky vale
remote bobcat
remote bobcat
surreal token
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I thought enh was one of the lowest

smoky vale
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it is

surreal token
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How does blizz fuck up an execute based class man...

remote bobcat
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but so is arms

surreal token
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Jesus christ

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Who the fuck is our dev

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I don't get it

woven valley
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We should petition to have the lock dev do our numbers cause they let their player base sandbag to shit and back and keep buffing them

heavy nacelle
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I mean someone has to be the lowest

remote bobcat
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i mean

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idk what makes u guys think

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theres one dev per class

spare steppe
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Mage has a dev

remote bobcat
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I'd bet it's like 3 melee devs 3 range devs 1 tank dev 1 heal dev

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or some shit

brittle crow
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im only rep 5 with kareshi trust dawg wtf am i supposed to be at

verbal orchid
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is there a wa for the best times to push execute?

woven valley
woven valley
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I’m at halfway through 8 atm

brittle crow
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i havent gone out of my way for those

warm crag
brittle crow
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oh the lore

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FUC

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i forgot to do those and now dmf is gone

surreal token
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Why is rep important?

woven valley
warm crag
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you're overcooking this

woven valley
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Also I have done all available rares this week

warm crag
woven valley
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Got both rare mounts too xD

surreal token
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Yeah it's like rep 18 or something

remote bobcat
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whats the point of getting reputation

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why are people farming it

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augment rune?

brittle crow
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augment rune

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mounts

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cheapo crests/valorstones

spare steppe
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I’m too poor to want the Augment rune atm

woven valley
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Yeah augment for prog is nice

undone flower
clever belfry
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@gleaming siren schmididitoilet

gleaming siren
clever belfry
gleaming siren
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@clever belfry

clever belfry
gleaming siren
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It's funny when I search for anda I appear first, cause you're the fake

clever belfry
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crazy my phone tries to auto correct me to xantaga

short haven
azure tiger
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How bad is Single Minded Fury for this season?

flat river
wispy bridge
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Anyone know a fast delve to grind today?

azure tiger
prime bane
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I jumped on a frost dk and didn't know a thing I was doing in lower ilvl and decimated my fury warriors damage lol

eternal sundial
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(maybe this is a gameplay issue not a tuning issue)

prime bane
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But they don't have the super fun jump. Same reason I always played barbarian

light hedge
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so not really using cds or anything, short rotational question.
if i rampage and in that enrage window hit bt, rb rb, bt and ramapge again, i drop out of enrage just as i hit the 2nd rampage. is that correct?

prime bane
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Sounds right

light hedge
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or should i still prioritze double RB > BT and miss the 2nd enraged bt

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and exeqt on procc for slayer if i understood correct

prime bane
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I rarely touch bt but I'm a minority

light hedge
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i mean bt absolutly slaps w/o LuO 4pc

prime bane
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I switched to mountain thane for aoe

light hedge
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this is ST dummy

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maybe that helps

hardy cargo
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there are conditionals around BT usage, ther wasnt must context in your orignal post

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youd only BT if 85% or more crit outside of VC or 35%+ inside of VC

prime bane
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I didn't have season 2 4 piece

hardy cargo
summer quail
light hedge
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no VC talented

hardy cargo
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then when bt has 85% or more crit chance from bloodcraze is when u press

light hedge
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so i just WW when i have downtime because BT is not at 85

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?

hardy cargo
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obviously not lmfao

prime bane
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Bt would still hit harder

light hedge
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so why would 85% matter if i otherwise generate downtime?

prime bane
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I often have rb refreshes

hardy cargo
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vs downtime it doesnt

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you arent accounting for rb resets, or just spending your rage if you have it for ramp

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when speaking about 85% crit chance is when you are comparing it to pressing rb

light hedge
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Wouldnt RB refreshes also indicate to much usage of Rampage?

hardy cargo
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u want to press ramp as much as possible

light hedge
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because sure you can press rampage at 80 every time

unborn delta
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RB I mean

prime bane
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Obviously you will overcap at times

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He's not mountain thane

hardy cargo
unborn delta
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Oh zzz

light hedge
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no

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w/o luo set

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not with set

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different and very much not same

hardy cargo
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im not going to say for certain im sure there is someone here who is smarter than I am who knows but I dont think the conditionals on BT change with tier set

light hedge
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i mean wont matter in latest 2 weeks

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since 4p increases RB value

hardy cargo
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it also buffs bt

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either one or the other

limber oar
light hedge
hardy cargo
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I see what u mean now I thought u were talking abt s2 set

light hedge
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nono, s2 is over

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And i still dont think we will hit Rampage at 80 as prio 1

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more likely to try hitting as close to 130 as pos

hardy cargo
limber oar
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Obvi it still matters till then

limber oar
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Like raging blow or sudden death execute with conditionals

light hedge
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Okay

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So conclusion BT is worse Button than Rampage but RB is better than Rampage and so is Execute when Sudden Death procs with new 4pc

tawny pivot
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At least you're not in my guild, guys

warped drum
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What hero tree are we using before the new tier in m+?

dense elbow
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Whatever you prefer

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In m0 things just melt in 3 sec either way

warped drum
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love it! thanks

dense elbow
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For m+ i would say Slayer for prio dam

proud moat
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Fury feels so much fun to play.

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Is haste actually good or just makes it fun?

chilly fractal
light tapir
bitter palm
dense elbow
bitter palm
dense elbow
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But that won't show mastery with your spec, and the point is nill

bitter palm
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if u cant execute ur rotation idk

dense elbow
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Guess he should demand vods, to make sure ya don't do it on wrong class/spec

bitter palm
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legit most irrelevant part of playing the game imo

dense elbow
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Vods with camera recording hands and face

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Ppl could just spend the 700k for the boost okayge

chilly fractal
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Tettles doing 200 attempts was also pretty funny

spare steppe
bitter palm
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i gave up on my rogue :caught:

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i die on 3rd set

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cloak evasion on cd

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i die through feint

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maybe cause brann is lvl40

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and im low ahh ilvl

dense elbow
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200? That is respectable no?
I am at 102 wipes at 22% sadge

bitter palm
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i cant live

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sybau blizz

dense elbow
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Stupid Brann creates the Titanic orb and my eyes go all: Shiiiiny

chilly fractal
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I preferred that over DPS Brann though… he’d hop on his gryphon and then not move with the circle and we’d die

dense elbow
summer quail
light tapir
bitter palm
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real

chilly fractal
chilly fractal
lyric ether
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Hi Archi. Is this "no changes til 4 set" or "no changes til 2 set"? Just want to be sure.

chilly fractal
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You’ll likely replace S2 4p with ilvl and then replace S2 2p with S3 2p

lyric ether
chilly fractal
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I believe it’s 2 set but I was planning to sim that when the time comes

spare steppe
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Talents don’t change I thought

dense elbow
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Wonder if Archi got ping notifications on for Sky hold. Surely not, right?

spare steppe
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To be a mod and a guide writer for 1.5 specs is asking to be pinged a lot

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As well as everything else he does

acoustic helm
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yo

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off topic question

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but where tf did the timewalking dungeons go

chilly fractal
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It’s not a timewalking week

dense elbow
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Ya ran out of time, ain't time walking event

chilly fractal
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Next week is Wrath timewalking

acoustic helm
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oh the fuck

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didnt even know they do that

dense elbow
wispy bridge
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They should just make it a permanent weekyl rotating event imo

dense elbow
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They should make it once a decade

wispy bridge
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D:

bronze badge
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so why does current fury sim not use thunderous roar on pull

sand crest
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why would it

undone flower
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Bc it sucks, you have better buttons to press

bronze badge
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When did this change

undone flower
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You are allowed to compare raging blow damage and roar

junior oyster
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When did we open with roar?

chilly fractal
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Roar is like Whirlwind in ST

undone flower
bronze badge
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legit all season

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this was standard opener all season no?

sand crest
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at no point this season did we open with roar

junior oyster
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^

undone flower
bronze badge
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that is mugzee number 2 parse mythic this season

tawny pivot
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maybe the number 1 parse doesn't use it

sand crest
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that does not make it the optimal rotation

tawny pivot
undone flower
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Yes ? It doesn’t mean if it is the opener you will see in sims

limber oar
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The difference between doing roar before BS and roar after SS rampage is hyper minimal

summer quail
sand crest
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fight timing / proc luck / raid comp matters way more for dmg than using roar before or after bs, you can still get a rank 1 by not doing the optimal rotation

limber oar
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Some people like it to line uo with avatar permanently (im some people)

undone flower
bronze badge
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Idk legit every log ive looked at entire season have had roar before BS on opener

limber oar
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Is technically not the most optimal but most people do it from what i saw

undone flower
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Bc they are used to the S1 opener

sand crest
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also some high logs do the rb spam after bs, some dont

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minor rotation optimization do not affect dmg as much as other factors

bronze badge
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So its technically not better but it doesnt matter at all in the grand scheme

lyric ether
undone flower
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I did the S1 opener until mid season S2

summer quail
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i guarantee you, 1 global difference in opener is such an extremely minor difference

sand crest
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rng difference pull to pull for marked for exe procs will affect dmg more than which order you press roar

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thats for sure

undone flower
limber oar
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Its just a hyper minimal optimization. Youre more than likely not going to notice any dmg difference between the 2 (in s2)

bronze badge
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So s3 i know our capstones are dog

limber oar
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Some people just did it cause the convenience of having roar and avatar on the same CD was nice

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(Im some people)

bronze badge
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Idk every log i looked at all season seemed to do it so hearing that was shocking

summer quail
undone flower
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And : used to S1 opener were you had odyn fury from avatar and enrage, so you hit roar asap

warm crag
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roar before bs is mostly muscle memory from previous seasons im willing to claim

limber oar
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Super negligible

spare steppe
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Sometimes I roared before BS if I wanted it to hit adds before they died

restive peak
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Just send roar w Ava for sake of laziness/10 over here

spare steppe
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Like for bandit

undone flower
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I think it is a 0.0X difference bc you just move roar from couple gcd

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It is still in reck duration etc

warm crag
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it should be more than margin of error otherwise it wouldnt be in the apl

undone flower
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So who cares

tawny pivot
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Well we all know whose fault it is when Dimensius mythic wipes on 0.01% then!

spare steppe
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I dunno I appeared on the meter for a second

bronze badge
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How do i compare the damage between the abilitys on quick sim then?

spare steppe
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What do you mean goran?

bronze badge
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Im not sure someone told me i can compare the abilities

spare steppe
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Quick sim should already display that

bronze badge
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I took it as I can replace them in cast sequence

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but maybe i mis udnersstood what they meant when they said compare

undone flower
# spare steppe Like for bandit

Yes, it is a different talk when you say AoE roar, but you are betting they will survive the bleed when you compare with just hitting shit with raging blow

spare steppe
#

True true

bronze badge
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While i got everyone

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How much damage is aug rune

spare steppe
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Sim it šŸ˜›

undone flower
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You can sim it yes

sand crest
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xd

frank dawn
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Pretty sure it’s only like half a percent these days lol

undone flower
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I will not bother since my guild wants me to have it anyway

bronze badge
tawny pivot
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Can you sim them tho

spare steppe
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You can it’s a buff

undone flower
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Yes you can sim consumables

sand crest
tawny pivot
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But what about them

sand crest
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dont believe the lies

spare steppe
tawny pivot
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I'm not talking about the rune

undone flower
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Yes sandbag how POWERFUL the rune is, it is definitely what makes the diff between orange parse and blue

bronze badge
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BT completely dropped from rotation next season unless we got nothing else to hit right?

undone flower
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As slayer, in single target

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6 targets for BT supremacy

earnest canyon
dense elbow
clever path
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Is best in slot simming higher than a 691 vet wep? Cuz for me it does and it’s crazy

spare steppe
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I volunteer to do mechanics

reef hatch
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Hey guys, qq. Iv'e been playing Fury for the last 3 months now. Really enjoying it, managed to get over3k io in season 2. I am looking to optimize my dmg output even further and was thinking the only way by doing so is by utilizing macros. I was just curious if anyone can share their experience or possibility pm with something that has worked for them. Slayer for raids and Thane for M+. Not really looking for the M+ build as I don't think it would be beneficial consider everything going on with interrupts, constant changing targets etc. But think I could significantly increase output on single targt with the proper macro and rotation. Thanks in advance.

fading sky
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Without a log ppl cant help ya optimize

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Also arent that many macros

lyric ether
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So is tier helm bis for us or this bone-melted one? Seeing conflicting

spare steppe
agile kestrel
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enough rep for week 1

fading sky
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I mean like send cds on cd

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If u forget its more about trackin cds

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U can ofc use the @player for rav to speed up shit, but it wont change a bad parse to good

earnest canyon
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Did anyone post God Emperor "Scat Man" Dratnos raid comp prediction yet?

fading sky
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Haha

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4 fdks

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Dks thinkin they are bad

earnest canyon
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3

dense elbow
fading sky
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Had a 4th

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If aug. Only good for great guilds prob

spare steppe
earnest canyon
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I never bothered with ptr cos I didnt want spoilers/cba.....FDK is that strong??

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so FDK is top melee and warlock is top ranged?

ruby acorn
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Based on Sims, yes

sturdy violet
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By a large margin

ornate gust
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warriors max burst 🤔

fading sky
midnight sierra
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Chat are we cooked

ornate gust
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why fire mage with us.. damn blizzard!

ruby acorn
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It's the same issue with Fury, they just have CDs too frequently for them to be impactful

midnight sierra
wheat oyster
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Looks like blood mallet but might be wrong

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Ah

midnight sierra
ornate gust
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nah... just play DK

fading sky
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We have to high rotational dmg

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So we cant have spikes

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Blizzard made our profile flat. So ofc we cant burst

gilded pawn
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You don’t get it

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We gotta have high consistent dam

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Then even higher burst

forest owl
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i quit but im still sticking round discord to see how they shaft warrior in the new tierclueless

midnight sierra
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I mean having a flat damage profile isn’t that bad but when there are so many damage amps this tier

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kinda sucks

wheat oyster
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That’s just for ST too, rogue gonna jump up on cleave fights

fading sky
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Though in gen burst is better

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Like means u need to play perfectly seldomly

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Or well less

midnight sierra
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GG

fading sky
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I mean imho fury doesnt rly

candid falcon
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arms is getting a rework before fury ever does

fading sky
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More a tuning of talents

midnight sierra
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I’ll take anything really

fading sky
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Arms needed god for like 3 tiers

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No but like retune of + roar // spear and we get more.burst on demand

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Throw in a bladestorm // rav buff

steel shard
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arms rework next xpac

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surely

candid falcon
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arms rework where they remove it

wheat oyster
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Give arms war challenging shout so we can make full use of die by the sword parry uptime!!

midnight sierra
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I’d take an arms rework

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legit just make their CDs line up

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feels so ass

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Demolish is fun af to press

rotund ginkgo
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Our splits has another warrior, a monk and Evo in my group

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Am I cooked on 4p?

candid falcon
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yeah its over

rotund ginkgo
#

Rl said save catalyst for next week for the guaranteed myth track catalyze

spare steppe
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I personally wouldnt catalyze heroic or below

wheat oyster
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I didnt realise it’s you

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fuck

fading sky
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And much would be saved

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Oh y and 1st swing of demo should always be cs

woven valley
brittle crow
civic jay
#

My old brain is slightly happy that we're more or less back to Raging Blow / Rampage spam like in Dragonflight again. In to the sea with bloodthirst

wheat oyster
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They press mass disintegrate 3 times back to back

civic jay
#

Sold

sinful spoke
#

If you cannot defeat Kyveza, do not bother showing up to raid. This boss is a baseline mechanics check. If you cannot handle mechanics while maintaining a strong DPS or HPS rotation, you will only drag the group down on the harder fights ahead.

This is not optional. This is not "just a warm-up boss." This is the fight that tells us whether you can balance your gameplay fundamentals aka: awareness, movement, uptime, and performance but all at once. If you fail here, you will fail later.

If you can't be bothered to put in the hours to grind this fight, you are disrespecting the other 26 players on this roster who are putting in the work. This is a preparatory fight for a multi-week raid, and it requires commitment. If you can't commit now, you won't commit later.

You all said you wanted to improve as a raid and get a better ranking. That doesn't start with someone else carrying you, it starts with you improving your own gameplay. If you can't do that, you're dead weight. And yes, I'm talking to you, you slug.

And before anyone even thinks about saying, "my class isn't designed for this encounter" fucking save it. I've seen hundreds of Chinese VODs of Kyveza beaten on every single spec and every single hero talent combination possible. The fight is beatable. The capability exists. The only difference between them and you is execution and effort.

So here's the bottom line: Beat Kyveza before raid night, or don't show up.

fast mural
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oh its going viral

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what aotc guild did this come from

digital crown
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new to fury, is making sure you have stacks of whirlwind prio over everything in aoe pull?

fast mural
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yes but if you play thane you should have those stacks naturally by pressing TC on cooldown

gusty cloak
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what we crafting first?

undone flower
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the weapon

restive peak
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Weppy as always brother

gusty cloak
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i figured so, thnx

restive peak
#

And I disagree heavily w Drattys prediction this tier lol, way overvaluing aug and frost synergy

fast mural
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yeah not enough aoe fights

restive peak
#

More likely to swap to a UH DK if you're gonna go that HAM to abuse the burst

marble swift
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so the one-button ability lets me @target spear and ravager, but i cant macro it anymore?

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why would ion do this

restive peak
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Blizz hates us confirmed

orchid dagger
marble swift
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you got brain damage or something

sullen tendon
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stand on enemies, cast @ player

orchid dagger
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@cursor, call it a day

marble swift
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yeah those are all fine but its silly we cant have it back when the one-button does it

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its not that im not aware of them, its inconsistency in rules

orchid dagger
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One-button is designed for warriorbrain

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So they get the guardrails

fast mural
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imagine if pvp players will put the OBR on their bars only for spear for aim botting players

marble swift
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yeah sure but its got a gcd penalty

orchid dagger
fast mural
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no

orchid dagger
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It was a macro that let you only kick if it was kickable

fast mural
#

that couldnt have lasted long

orchid dagger
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It lasted a week before every mage cried

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Because muh precog

fast mural
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thats why i dont remember it then

orchid dagger
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If I could snap fire a Spear into some priest instantly he's dead, one gcd penalty or not

karmic crow
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is there any good boss guide/videos where i can see personal CD usage for the new raid?

fast mural
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gotta wait for NA release

raven oxide
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hey boys!

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anyone has battle stance switch macro?

flat river
undone flower
flat river
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it's special action button

orchid dagger
undone flower
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yes it is just that 0.3 sec before you charge the target or walk is not very important

flat river
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guys

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im eepy

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huh

signal steeple
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Hi guys, did fury receive a HEAVY ST nerf with the new patch or am I just garbage now? I'm at 2.74m damage doing a 5 minute rotation on a target dummy with ilvl 685 gear. This is less than I was doing in May.

Also unrelated question: how do I get an accurate sim? Under quick sim on raidbots, a target dummy sim is 2.456m while a patchwerk quick sim is 3.204m. Am I just 500k off my sim?

lament wing
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Wow head has mountain thane, videos I’m watching for rotation have slayer for m+. Is there a right or wrong here or play whatever? One’s gotta do more dmg than the other right?

dense sedge
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But unrelated, I wanna get more into rtwf this time round, what do you find the best platforms to keep up with it are, would be cool to see the potential comps etc

midnight sierra
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twitch. like all of them stream

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max and/or scripe

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Gingi, any of those folks

willow cradle
signal steeple
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Understandable, so I am just garbage. Thanks for the confirmation

wheat oyster
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Uh

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Shame kink spotted

willow cradle
#

Also Fury only received buff's so it's likely that you're making mistakes.

I'd normally point you towards Wowhead but it's been updated for season 3 so it's not really relevant for what's currently available to us.

signal steeple
willow cradle
fallen solstice
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Is Fresh Meat dog-doo for M+? I was curious if the reduced importance of bloodlust makes it good to open up with BT on a pack so you can enrage pre thunderblast->rampage

bitter palm
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yes its very bad

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useless

signal steeple
storm birch
#

Need to skip today and it be tomorrow already

willow cradle
storm birch
signal steeple
#

Ok gotcha thanks

storm birch
willow cradle
chilly fractal
fallen solstice
chilly fractal
#

I prefer the question mark

dense sedge
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Not played slayer in time finding I’m not as able to keep up enrage as much as Thane unsure why

signal steeple
#

The idea that it could be anything OTHER than a question mark didn't occur to me until you said it just now

wheat oyster
storm birch
storm birch
storm birch
fallen solstice
brittle frost
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Guys, do we have 11.2 Spell Reflect wa?

dense sedge
brittle crow
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i always thought it was a ?

storm birch
dense sedge
fallen solstice
storm birch
storm birch
storm birch
fallen solstice
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@storm birch So I'm seeing people considering dropping Hack and Slash for MT in keys. This is because of the increased priority of pressing thunderblasts leading to less charges of raging blow needed rotationally?

carmine hawk
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After spending a day on frost dk i logged in on fury to finish dungs and oh man it's so much more fun but I got crippling depression when i compared the dps

olive wraith
#

You press tb/bt often enough that you won’t really run out of charges

olive wraith
storm birch
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On ptr I hardly found myself using RB except boss fights

storm birch
fallen solstice
#

And I'm guessing this talent swap isn't until we get our hands on the tier set since the regular TB procs aren't often enough to drop it yet

fallen solstice
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My hero, cheers

storm birch
#

🫔

dense sedge
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Or do I want to be enraged before whirlwind

spare steppe
#

Got my Flickering title let’s go

storm birch
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Enraged always. You should be able to Fit 4 GCDs in your enraged window.

old abyss
#

Hey guys, apologies if this is a palm-and-forehead question but I have to ask; with Mountain Thane and the talents for Thunderclap, Is it better to use Thunderclap over Whirlwind to trigger our cleave? Or only Thunderclap when Thunderblast is proc’d? Thanks in advance.

storm birch
#

But all things considered ww would be the best one out of all to use unenraged

dense sedge
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So ensure the rampage t before the whirlwind and rinse and repeat

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Yeah makes sense thanks

marble pilot
old abyss
#

Understood, thanks so much. šŸ™šŸ»

storm birch
undone flower
#

since sims have all raid buffs, you only have shout

storm birch
#

Yea I think you can turn all of that off if you really wanted to see your natty dps on the sim

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I’m no Sim Samuel though

undone flower
#

mark of the wild 3% vers / monk 5% / shaman >2%

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it can adds up to a huge diff if you don't have them

low folio
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im sad

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there were these new 2 handed weapons from the karesh zone that you could tmog and they would be attached at the hip like one handers but now they arent doing it anymore

lament wing
#

so mountain thane m+ and slayer ST raid?

fading sky
lament wing
#

is bladestorm in MT a big dps loss? such a more fun spell to hit

low folio
#

with the new tier set as thane? probably bigger than last season

lament wing
#

oof

lapis holly
#

how big is the dps difference between slayer and thane in m+? 5-10%

storm birch
#

More Chadstorm means less blast

low folio
#

if you could cast thunderclap during bs....would make me happy

storm birch
#

Def not advised

low folio
#

also bs damage is balanced around slayer being able to make it do 50% more hits

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so if it became strong enough for thane to use, slayer would probably start winning in aoe

storm birch
#

Yea there’s BS talents baked into the slayer talent tree

low folio
#

out of curiousity i tried bladestorm just now on thane and man it really doesnt do shit for damage without slayer buffing it up

ripe stream
#

So I am switching to fury warrior at the 11th hour due to our warrior taking a break. But I have zero Undermine tier. Any spec suggestions until I get new tier?

olive wraith
#

Stick with slayer until you get new 4p

ripe stream
#

For M+ as well? Any talent changes compared to current spec suggestions?

desert iris
#

Longggggg time arms player struggling to hit my sim as Fury on target dummy, any mistakes that you guys fixed that let you consistently hit your dummy sim?

Sim is prioritizing RB over BT so just doing that for better comparison, I have 99%+ uptime on enrage, I'm never messing up my sudden death/ jug management, rampaging over 115 rage, not over capping rage unless its to stack RB buff to rampage following a bladestorm

Consistently 5-10% below my dummy sim and its driving me crazy cause I log arms or my ww and I basically hit or exceed my sim every single time

restive peak
#

Well on the dummy you don't have lust etc and every debuff

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For starters

fast mural
#

was it a target dummy sim ?

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or patchwork

restive peak
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BT should only be touched at 85%+ crit or below 35%

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You might be looking at the rotation for S3 while still in S2 gear lol

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And if so, I wouldn't really bother spending time learning the S2 1 intimately the day before the new tier anyway

desert iris
#

Simming Target dummy, its definitely the season 3 rotation, its not prioritizing bloodthirst regardless of crit, but I've just been doing the season 3 rotation so I can compare it better

royal patio
undone flower
#

I wouldn’t bother too heavily on the no S3 tier period

unborn delta
#

We will have 4p either next week or week after anyways

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Unless giga unlucky

summer quail
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Gonna run 2p2p as soon as you can

dusk ledge
#

so much talk of the s3 rotation, will we not press BT anymore? I've been living in the prot warrior world lately šŸ˜›

Assuming we can spam more RB?

unborn delta
#

Thane: always BT
slayer: BT is filler

dusk ledge
#

rgr so essentially, just spam RB untill your rampage is ready and repeat that untill you can't no more xD

restive peak
#

Spam RB until you're above 115 rage, you run out of RB, or enrage will drop

dusk ledge
#

Welll ofc it goes without saying keeping enrage up ofc šŸ™‚

dense sedge
#

Is it 6 max coffer keys this week btw?

restive peak
#

But you'll legit ignore ramp unless over 115 rage, out of RBs, or enrage will drop was my point

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I see lots of people pressing ramp as soon as it lights up

dusk ledge
#

right so only rampage if you have over 115 rage rgr

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yea ive been doing that alot currently

dense sedge
restive peak
#

Use the fact that RB hits harder to ensure you'll never, ever risk running out of rage/useful buttons to press

thick fossil
dusk ledge
#

I'll just add the condition for rampage to have to hit 115 rage no biggy

restive peak
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I usually find by the end of heroic week I'm into the flow pretty good of w/e changes, there's no need to parse lord week 1

restive peak
#

GIVE THEM RB BUFFFFFSSSSSS

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Fr though, and that's a good idea Vert

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S2 DF was goated because it was a feed ramp ramp quicker CDs loop

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And it made sense lol

dusk ledge
#

yea that shit was good

thick fossil
restive peak
#

^

thick fossil
#

That or full rework.

low folio
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id remove spear and replace it with a different spell

restive peak
#

That would fix the spec feeling so empty with every button press lol

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Ramp used to feel good because it WAS our strongest ability

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Like when you're arms and you get 3 MS resets back to back you feel like a god

dusk ledge
#

honestly just make odyn's fury worth atleast so fucking dumb it's not

restive peak
#

Well Ons needs help too

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It was better whne we looped Ons in as well

low folio
#

season one odyns pissed blizzard off so they gutted it and then changed its position on the tree to fuck it again

restive peak
#

Can't wait to see FDK do exactly what we did to adds this tier and get zero nerfs because of it

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šŸ™‚

thick fossil
#

sadge remember when Sudden death was a massive dopamine hit. You just itched and prayed for it to pop.

restive peak
#

Yep lol

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Now it's just an annoying light up button on my screen

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That I ignore until I hear DING

thick fossil
low folio
#

speaking of frost dk. they feel fun to play

restive peak
#

Frost is interesting, it's very slow coming from warr

civic bobcat
#

Hey guys, do you know of any warrior who did the PTR tests in the raid and has saved vod?

thick fossil
#

Critcake

earnest canyon
# low folio speaking of frost dk. they feel fun to play

I might give mine another go....one of the few 80s I have with UI and binds etc setup....I keep meaning to gear a healer but I just look at the abilities and trying to figure out what to bind where and I just shut wow down and do something else

iron portal
#

So on ST bosses I can just snort

woven valley
restive peak
#

Healing is lame as fuck

iron portal
#

Most healers are masochists

restive peak
#

I was gonna make a real bad Zaelia joke

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But we'll just let your minds run wild

earnest canyon
# restive peak Healing is lame as fuck

sure but if i want to do low M+ with friends its usually a healer we lack, not dps or tanks....and I have like everything at 80 (not an achievement I know, you can go 1-80 in retail faster than a taco bell order), but i just only play warr and hunter

restive peak
#

If I EVER got forced to heal (lolgl) I'd play fistweaving monk atthe most

iron portal
civic bobcat
earnest canyon
thick fossil
#

Who is Zaelia?

earnest canyon
#

It's Zelda's sister, from the Nintendo games

iron portal
iron portal
#

was also in MDI

earnest canyon
# iron portal

idk if money will fix that unless they literally buy the top western raiders

thick fossil
thick fossil
restive peak
thick fossil
#

Holy priest, Jesus. At least let him play something like a Resto Shaman or MW monk. Not Holy.

restive peak
#

Bro China ain't gonna do shit without buying Liquid or Echos rosters

#

Even this Method rework etc probably doesn't take 1 of the spots from Liquid/Echo, not yet anyway

#

All it did was weaken Echo a bit, Liquid is gonna win by quite a bit again I think

radiant plank
#

China #1

restive peak
#

Spongie going to China confirmed

thick fossil
#

There really do need to be another 2 big guilds to step up. The two horse race is boring.

restive peak
#

They just buy anyone who looks super good from 3-10 onto Echo/Liquid lol

dense elbow
#

China would win if they werent 2 days behind

restive peak
#

xDD

iron portal
restive peak
#

Yeah and OF would be good if it wasn't shit Funky

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Like 5?

iron portal
#

oh