fury

[mint obsidian]

the first upgrade

[rotund ginkgo]

701 to 707 isnt hard

just do some m0 delves etc

u will get threads

go use them

done

[mint obsidian]

and then the alt gets 707?

or it gets the base ilvl?

also do u do the first quest on dornogal to open the portal?

then u skip it?

[rotund ginkgo]

yes

u just follow main story and then i think inside tazavesh

the first quest will have a skip option

[rotund ginkgo]

base wtih the currency so u can upgrade insta

[mint obsidian]

oh great

[mint obsidian]

u do the first quest to open the portal from dornogal ?

[tranquil dust]

Yeah, then u get to k'aresh and then on next quest there is the skip thing

[vivid slate]

is there an m+ build recommendation for thane without s3 set ?

[mint obsidian]

amazing thanks buddy

[frail forge]

i simmed slayer and its a 300k dps increase than thane

gulps

[tranquil dust]

Np, enjoy 😄

[mint obsidian]

what ilvl u need for m0?

[frail forge]

whats your ilvl rn?

[mint obsidian]

650 kek

need 660 i think?

[restive peak]

Did them on my DK yday at like 663ish and was easily fine, mind you DK is busted as fuuuu

[radiant plank]

you cn craft like fullset of 675 gear btw

[frail forge]

upgrade your gear with stones and you should be fine

[mint obsidian]

how?

[vivid slate]

is your warrior fresh character ?

[mint obsidian]

yeah

[vivid slate]

If so go to all the Renown masters

[radiant plank]

weathered crests from renown quartermasters

:bigsmile

[restive peak]

Walherogue

[mint obsidian]

thats crafted?

[radiant plank]

2 non crafted + trinkets

[vivid slate]

and collect the rewards i got like 450 weathered crests

[frail forge]

whats the addon to show the ilvl? i forgot

[radiant plank]

BetterCharacterPanel

[frail forge]

thanks

is this tuff

[radiant plank]

naw

[mint obsidian]

u can craft the 675 how?

[frail forge]

meanie

[radiant plank]

weathered crest crafts

[vivid slate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnxDr3vJwrY

just watch this

[radiant plank]

fresh chara -> go talk to renown quarter master -> convert to enchanted crest -> craft blue item

[vivid slate]

and you are fine

[mint obsidian]

675 is epic not blue

[radiant plank]

then loot some trinkets from delve/wq/m0

[radiant plank]

yeah but on crafting order the item is blue

[mint obsidian]

ahh

[radiant plank]

this crest

[mint obsidian]

yeah i got a lot

daymn

[radiant plank]

30 crests per craft

[mint obsidian]

worth using them now or wait for better items

[radiant plank]

weatherd are lfr crests so

[vivid slate]

they are useless after week 1

[mint obsidian]

ah oki

just yse weatherd then

not carved

[radiant plank]

yeah

[vivid slate]

just watch the vid i send

thats enough to know everything

[tranquil dust]

BTW if we do all 6 M0 from this season is that all? Or can we do others from TWW that arent in the rotation? For gear I mean

[vivid slate]

only seasonal

if you want to fill vault, just run m0 that you have already done

[tranquil dust]

Cuz if I open the dungeons adventure guide, it actually shows this seasons ilvl on other dungeons, thats why I was asking

Which is weird

[restive peak]

Be funny as fuck if it was bugged but shouldn't work

[vivid slate]

you can just look into the tool

[tranquil dust]

I'll screenshot in a sec

[vivid slate]

if there is no old dungeon there is no abuse

😄

[tranquil dust]

In LFG there is no one yeah

[vivid slate]

bc as you know from blizz

abuse early and abuse often

[tranquil dust]

See? Weird af

[vivid slate]

would be really funny if that would be the case

[tranquil dust]

It would

[restive peak]

Go giver a shot bro

Update us 😛

[tranquil dust]

I will in a second, trying to gather someone from guild 😄

1st boss should be enough to see

Unless 0 drops and we have to go 2nd boss ahahahahah

[cloud locust]

No you just won’t be able to zone into other non seasonal mythic dungeons from this xpac

Aka rookery

[tranquil dust]

Yeap you're right

Would be huge

for RWF raiders at least

Also is it possible to do Tazavesh already or no? Only next week?

[cloud locust]

I heard a rumour you could que into it as heroic but nothing confirmed. Pretty sure it just opens next week

[steep fable]

For those of us that PUG, what is the estimated DPS loss to not use spear and stay with roar. Or does mob/boss movement not matter on spear? (Haven't used it since it was spear of bastion and stuff had to stay in range for full value IIRC)

[modest condor]

less than 0.5%

[tranquil dust]

Actually this was a nice question, is it hit and then they need to stay in range or?

Same, havent used it for ages

[modest condor]

it puts a debuff on targets hit that increases their crit damage taken from you

no need to stand in the spear anymore

[tranquil dust]

great

[steep fable]

thank the gods

[tranquil dust]

And the thing that pulls them on spear, was that a pvp talent or what was it?

[modest condor]

no that's just spear

[tranquil dust]

So they stay there no matter what

[quiet breach]

if u have spear on a jumper mob will it yank the mob back when it tries to jump?

like the ankle biters in halls

[tranquil dust]

Shouldve taken it for a spin in m0, didnt take it soon enought to get used to ir 😛

[steep fable]

Last time I used spear was on Terros in vault....because the dude didnt move lol

[near depot]

how much worse is 1h vs 2h?

[hardy bluff]

alot

[earnest canyon]

at least 3 fiddy

[near depot]

sad day

[modest condor]

does anybody here have the cursed stone idol trinket?

[humble shadow]

Me

I hate it

[modest condor]

2 questions: can you use it off-gcd and is the cast hasted?

[craggy swallow]

does anyone know which dungeons we need to farm as fury?

[humble shadow]

Yes to gcd and I think you can cast it while move but I only used it for like half a dungeon

[modest condor]

ok cool thanks

[humble shadow]

And does it work with your haste? Just making sure I understand the question

[modest condor]

yeah that's the question, you know how cast times and gcds etc. get reduced with haste, i want to know if that also happens with the trinket cast

[fresh creek]

think ara kara and floodgat since trinket and bis weap

from there

[humble shadow]

I actually don't know but it felt like it casted super quick when I did use it

[modest condor]

ok thanks, tbh the off gcd part was the most important anyway

[humble shadow]

I was using it with a reck macro but had to pop reck after charging and that felt weird to me

And I also tried it without that macro as well

Just feels like I can't find a comfortable place to pop it

[restive peak]

This trinket feels like dogwater fr

[ionic ermine]

Did they buff champ spear going into season 3?

I thought I remember seeing it get a buff but now I can’t find it

[modest condor]

no

[digital mauve]

What's the mechanic behind Unhinged? Prio BT during Ravager window?

[compact knot]

Opposite

Push other buttons during ravager

[elfin hamlet]

fury or arms this season?

[tepid cedar]

prot

[digital mauve]

ty

[compact knot]

Fury probably

[elfin hamlet]

ewh

[compact knot]

Arms looks alright on some fights

[tepid cedar]

fury all the way like always

[compact knot]

Colossus arms has potential to be meta on some fights

But Fury looks favored

Colossus arms extremely underrated, cant wait to own with it in raid

[modest condor]

is this bait?

[compact knot]

Not really, it's like fury season 1 (week 1) its good at sniping adds.

But I'm only person who plays colossus in raid

[restive peak]

I mean the real argument for colo arms would be the 4pce + dmg amp phases

[compact knot]

Forgeweaver ^^^^

[restive peak]

But it's very unlikely that makes up for the dogshit inefficiencys everywhere else on arms

If it gets a buff? Sure, it can become the play

But rn 600k+ behind is too much dmg across the entirety of a fight lost

[compact knot]

On a patchwerk fight sure

Well not sure, it's guranteed to be worse.

[restive peak]

I mean no, in general it will be worse

Fury will do 10-15% more dmg the entire fight, colo arms will do a bit more dmg for very short intervals of the fight

The tradeoff will not be worth it without a buff

[proud vessel]

does Ravager also benefit from enrage?

[iron portal]

It does yes

[gleaming siren]

Yes Patrick horseradish is not an instrument either

Notably stuff updates dynamically so throwing Ravager, charging in then Rampaging still means your Ravager will benefit from the moment you get enraged

[iron portal]

Is this distant cousin of @clever belfry

[modest condor]

arms colossus is 20% behind slayer fury on st, it's totally possible it's gonna get buffed, but until that point i just dont see it being viable in raid even taking into account damage amps and add sniping

[proud vessel]

What talent cause you to enrage when you use reck?

[modest condor]

that's not a thing

[proud vessel]

Never mind i misread

[summer quail]

i think arms is gonna get buffed. nowhere near 20% tho

[proud vessel]

Can someone explain this difference to me?

Or is the second one more a prio list?

[clever belfry]

what

[iron portal]

what

[tranquil dust]

2nd is more like prio list, to follow

[proud vessel]

thanks

why do we use ravager without enrage but cast a rampage so we're enrage before we use spear?

in opener

[south kayak]

Should be a thing tbh

[tranquil dust]

No idea, but was the same last season

With roar

[wanton tree]

with both roar and ravager most of the damage happens after you cast it

[proud vessel]

so even after casting and getting enrage it still benefits from the enrage buff with the hits?

[tranquil dust]

Yes, the enrage is always dynamic as Archimtiros told us the other day, it updates as soon as you get enrage

[rigid stirrup]

I've been hearing whispers that completing hard mode on Taz gives a +10 key on completion. Can anyone verify?

[modest condor]

i doubt it

[tranquil dust]

For vault you mean?

[rigid stirrup]

No

[tranquil dust]

Havent found any info on it, but next week we will know

[rigid stirrup]

Like it gives you a literal key at the end of it

[tranquil dust]

Oh I misread it, yeah, Im not sure about that but would be good

But its very different content

Timed runs and hard mode runs are totally different

Unrelated content

[rigid stirrup]

That's what I heard thats all

[tranquil dust]

Yeah we will see

[proud vessel]

completing hard mode without deaths does give a mythic track item

[tranquil dust]

Yeah that I herd too

heard*

[proud vessel]

So when i pop CD's and charge followed by Ravager im at 76 rage and cast cast Rampage as the picture says, am i doing something wrong?

Our macro is still:
/cast Avatar
/cast Recklessness
right?

[modest condor]

no

reck needs to be before ava

[proud vessel]

ahh

[remote bobcat]

Reck before ava

Also need to be in combat first

So taunt the dummy

[spare steppe]

Are you popping reck and avatar before you enter combat?

[proud vessel]

Yeah

[near phoenix]

Anyone know the % gain for new 2 and 4 piece ?

[fading sky]

Big bigger

Esp thane🤣

[south kayak]

First dungeon ever and I got ara sac

gg

[fading sky]

Gg, now get it in vault

[near phoenix]

Raid lead wants % for loot distribution 😣 I know it’s big. Was hoping someone simmed it.

[last sparrow]

you could just yk, sim it yourself

[fading sky]

Hacks

[spare steppe]

You need to be in combat before popping it otherwise your rage will reset to base

[fading sky]

Cant believe we dont have that usual % picture

[fading sky]

But like 1 set vault wednesday 1 set from set maker thingy, 1 from 2500 rating? And last from raid

Plans are made

[spare steppe]

for me it was 12% for 2p and 20% for 4p to go from 684 to 691

[graceful elk]

Is BT like a super low prio on Slayer?

[spare steppe]

extremely

[modest condor]

once you get the new tierset yes

[spare steppe]

^

[graceful elk]

Ok I was wondering LOL

[spare steppe]

that specifically

[graceful elk]

But its much higher on MT?

[modest condor]

yes

[graceful elk]

Got ya any specific reason some people are running slyer in M0? or jus prefrence?

[fading sky]

891 sweet

Where

[fading sky]

Memes

[spare steppe]

lmao

[fading sky]

And old 4p so both specs are bad

[spare steppe]

fixed whoops

[fading sky]

Ye so huuuge

[graceful elk]

LMAO I assume once tier set MT is much better in M+

[fading sky]

Yup

Its quite good

[stiff furnace]

Running Slayer because I prefer it over MT.

[graceful elk]

How come?

U like hitting WW lol

[fading sky]

Slayer is fun in keys as well

[eternal abyss]

do we get Rav+Reck down to 40-41sec with high-end gear this season? cause that'd be cool for 2min trinkets

not ideal using a 2min then, but it'd be nice

[spare steppe]

Even if we did 2m trinkets are performing worse than the passive trinkets

[stiff furnace]

I haven't really touched MT to be honest. I haven't played all that much content that requires it. Just now trying to get back into mythics.

[eternal abyss]

of course, but a myth track 2min vs hero track passiv might still be better then - you know. vault-luck and all

[olive wraith]

It feels stronger atm. Better burst than thane. Plus slayer for buffs to its abilities whereas thane got only s3 tier buffs

[spare steppe]

blue is max heroic (710), purple is max mythic (723)

so signet sure, but I wouldn't take ritual forge from any 2m class

different in 5T

[bitter palm]

bro antenna pmo

[sullen rune]

Always a mandatory freaking raid trinket smh

[bitter palm]

isnt it transmitter but only one task

[sullen rune]

Look what they did to my pacemaker feelsbadman

[bitter palm]

the little ball u gotta collect

[storm birch]

Well it slowly comes to you

[spare steppe]

it moves to you at least and its from the 2nd boss

[bitter palm]

pmo

u will do some running away from it

100%

to align multilpe balls

[storm birch]

But if you like have to move and leap away that prolly makes it take forever to get to you

[bitter palm]

for bigger burst

[spare steppe]

so its not like its house of cards last season

[bitter palm]

as colo at least

tbf fuck colo and arms anyway

doubt fury will do cringe shit with it

0 burst anyway

[spare steppe]

^

so to go back, yeah you could do a 2m trinket, but it wont consistently line up and we dont really burst. I'll probably do antenna and then Arcanocore or whatever mythic vault trinket i can get

[fiery kraken]

Is it like that stupid agi trinket from dragonflight

[frank dawn]

Why is that delve mastery proc trinket that procs more when you kill stuff not on any lists? Seems like it would be pretty good in m+

[fiery kraken]

With the 3 orbs oh gos

[spare steppe]

good question, not sure why delve trinkets arent on there, let me check liquid armory

[young swan]

those are 2 different trinkets

theres a mastery proc trinket, but its quite inconsistent

[spare steppe]

soulbreaker i think was the good delve trinket?

[young swan]

and theres the haste proc trinket that gets more stacks when u kill shit

but all the stacks drop almost instantly upon leaving combat

is what ive heard

[stark lantern]

if you craft a s3 720 2h with ascension, are u able to recraft a s2 bracer w/ writhing armor band for double the effect. To technically save a spark for the time-being?

[spare steppe]

s2 writhing works with any s3 ascension

[stark lantern]

awesome, good to know! Thank you!

[edgy widget]

a strong raid trinket is infinitely preferrable over playing the vault slot machine for a strong M+ trinket

not to mention the top two raid trinkets come from the first two bosses, making them very accessible

[south kayak]

do I upgrade my weapon to 691

[viscid tiger]

what website is this?

[south kayak]

Bloodmallet, I think

[sullen dove]

yea looks like it

[viscid tiger]

doesnt bloodmallet look different and is not up2date yet?

[young swan]

nah thats bloodmallet and its mostly up to date for us

its not updated for everyone yet

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/kaeya-balls-alert-kaeya-genshin-impact-genshin-gif-32354815828264793

balls

[bitter palm]

ye

why not

[earnest canyon]

I did. No use for carved after this week so anything I got that can be upgraded with them I did

[bitter palm]

ye i mean u will just jump into hero track immediately and carved are gg

[gleaming siren]

what

[nova dirge]

Yo guys, whats the aprox dmg difference between fury and arms based on ptr ? Asking for a friend

[silent gazelle]

10%

[young swan]

in favor of fury

[eternal abyss]

oh its updated - nice. didn't see that. thanks mate. also I had the impression there'd be more 2m trinkets.... which isn't the case at all. thanks again

[clever belfry]

OK

[nova dirge]

Ty guys

[eager lily]

do we change the tallent buld before new 4. ?

or before new 2-2P ?

[dense elbow]

Slayer ya want to get AJ for M+ when ya get (2), as that is when ya start slamming in executes

Thane? No clue, not my cup of tea

[eager lily]

so the aswer is no ?

[fiery kraken]

Is okay to send bladestorm without recklessness if it’s up? Or hold

[south kayak]

Thane doesn't change at all I think

[dense elbow]

Its alright depending, but in general you hold BS for Avatar/Reck if it is less than 20sec

[olive wraith]

Thane can remove an rb talent

[fiery kraken]

Ty

[south kayak]

True, I forgot

[dense elbow]

Thane never changes, Thane just clappa clappa, bt bt, clappa clappa

[oblique trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1404106890081734762.webp?size=96

5x6 balls

[south kayak]

Interesting

That is very small

[devout totem]

small balls

[south kayak]

true

[gleaming siren]

5x30 balls

@lost saffron did you do your 5x30 today

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/quite-big-thats-gif-18363059

[indigo quarry]

millimeters

[dense elbow]

meters

[winter shoal]

Funky you really cooked with the m0 build ngl

shit pipes when things die in 6 seconds

[dense elbow]

Better nerf Fury

[teal beacon]

HI anyone have optional text to sim for warrior in M+ or i just basically sim in Dungeon Slice ?

[devout totem]

it's better to sim 1 target 5 min or 5 targets 1m30

[teal beacon]

ok !

[brittle crow]

is that build diff from the regular build

[winter shoal]

For m0 and low keys

I think funky plays it in higher keys too idk

[brittle crow]

wtf is this

sus

[devout totem]

loboz type shit

[winter shoal]

Shit goes 🅱️razy in m0 I can't lie

[brittle crow]

odyns in the big 2025

[olive wraith]

How would one take AJ

For 2p gaming

[dense elbow]

Drop the AM extra

[radiant plank]

drop hns

[olive wraith]

For slayer?

That seems bad

Damn our capstones are cooked

[edgy widget]

everything goes crazy in M0 lol

[winter shoal]

With slayer 2p you just swap to new talents from wowhead

[slate sun]

What are we playing for 10-12 keys before we get tier lol

[edgy widget]

whatever you want

[radiant plank]

arms

[dense elbow]

Fury

[edgy widget]

Prot

[slate sun]

Is there a 4th spec?

[olive wraith]

Bench

[slate sun]

dont like all of the above

[olive wraith]

Unsub

[slate sun]

After playing thane on ptr, going back to live is actually depressing

[edgy widget]

ez just don't do M+ until you get tier

[brittle crow]

im playing new thane build rn without tier

i feel like a rebel

[slate sun]

Hmm.. with the WW buffs would you not play Barbaric Training and Seismic in Slayer M+ ?

or were they not enough

[winter shoal]

barbaric is a small aoe gain and a less smal st loss

You can play it if you want, it's just a tradeoff

[dense elbow]

Pick the WW improvement talents, for M+ your AoE gonna need it

[olive wraith]

Fury hard capped no longer

One step closer to ww spam

[dense elbow]

10% of your dam, 1 buff from being 100%

[edgy widget]

even with the buffs, WW is still a very small amount of slayer's damage

[dense elbow]

Ngl, if WW spam becomes our actual AoE rotation, I will prob just quit Fury that does sound 100% unfun

[winter shoal]

It was kinda fun with arms in df s3

[slate sun]

Not as a spam, i would love it as a rage dump substitute to rampage in AOE tho, could be fun.

[edgy widget]

not a chance lol

[slate sun]

One can dream

[edgy widget]

sounds fun on paper, but in practice it's just button bloat

[dense elbow]

I mean, if you want two different spenders - one for AoE and one for ST, ya can go Ret

already got it for ya

[edgy widget]

it works in some cases, when they otherwise just don't have enough buttons to fill out their action bars

[slate sun]

Also true

[edgy widget]

but the whole loop of Fury is converting Rage into Enrage via Rampage, and adding another spender would greatly complicate that

[brittle crow]

add slam

tbf archi already says use slam as filler on wowhead lmao

[dense elbow]

Slam is the bestest button, it isnt a complete waste, it is slightly better than pressing nothing at all

[olive wraith]

Ye slam exists. We just almost never press it

[brittle crow]

the day i put slam on my bars is the day i uninstall wow

[spare steppe]

I personally hope they find a way to differentiate BT and RB better so it’s not just a identical generator that you heavy spam one based on talents or tier

[olive wraith]

Idk how you’d do that tbh

[spare steppe]

No idea either

[olive wraith]

Well I guess removing some of the rb interactions would help

[south kayak]

Here's how you do it, go back to how it was before this RB fuckery

Rampage > Execute > BT > RB as a last resort filler

You're welcome

[past hazel]

Anyone know what Fury is crafting for 11.2

[olive wraith]

Nah keep execute low

[dense elbow]

execute should be under slam

[olive wraith]

I’m most likely doing weapon first

I don’t mind the occasionally tier of exe spam. But it def feels like an arms thing these days

[dense elbow]

Good thing ya dont execute at all as Thane then

[olive wraith]

Yup!

It’s nice having different play styles

[south kayak]

an entire different button like TB is enough of a playstle change

style

[olive wraith]

[radiant plank]

ascendance + armor band

[edgy widget]

no it doesn't

[olive wraith]

I also think bt should be the highest prio builder. But thats just me

[edgy widget]

it did prior to the WW buffs

[olive wraith]

Oh right ww is better in st now

[south kayak]

It has been for a while

[brittle crow]

it definitely did yesterday... im onto you archi

im not going insane

[edgy widget]

it definitely did not

[south kayak]

It's either Archi lying or you going insane

what's more likely

(insanity)

[brittle crow]

it said FILL WITH IMPROVED WHIRLWIND OR SLAM i remember it because it said IMPROVED WHIRLWIND and the TOOLTIP WAS WEIRD

IM NOT CRAZY

[edgy widget]

I just edit slam in there once in awhile then remove it

[south kayak]

Oh uh

causing insanity

[olive wraith]

Edit slam as highest prio

[south kayak]

for other individuals

[edgy widget]

writing a sim script to add slam to the APL, but only when his character name is detected

[olive wraith]

Then remove it

[teal beacon]

but option differ i suppose for enchant and stuff 'cause that different number of target ? So i can exploit both sims ?

[olive wraith]

When in doubt I prefer to take the higher ST option

[south kayak]

Some poor fella is just going to see this and think Slam is the most important fury ability

[olive wraith]

Get a string of people to name change to “slam highest prio”

Like the arms troll gang

[edgy widget]

ok, you first

[fast mural]

im gonna be in the bladestorm mountain thane gang

[edgy widget]

Mountainstorm or Bladethane?

[olive wraith]

[fast mural]

people are gonna think its DF S3 again

[olive wraith]

If only

Rip TT

Rip RA

[edgy widget]

there's a lot of irony in that the first (new version) of RA, which was immediately criticized for its lack of cleave, may have been the best version

[elfin tulip]

Hello! I have some questions regarding fury m+ (thane). I just started playing it and I want to know if I use thunderclap / Thunderblast over whirwind for procin g the cleave 🙂 also. do I even use execute?

[edgy widget]

yes and not really no

[olive wraith]

Remove ww off your bars as thane

[edgy widget]

you can still use WW in extremely rare situations, but 99.99% of the time TC replaces WW entirely (I don't bother to put it on my bars either)

[elfin tulip]

thank you guys! ❤️

[olive wraith]

Oxxy has an extreme case scenario that makes sense on paper

[storm birch]

[quiet breach]

execute is a filler for thane

so u barely cast it

[edgy widget]

Execute can also rarely be used, but it has a very low priority for Thane; I personally do keep that one bound, but it's not something you'll use frequently

[olive wraith]

In practice it sounds cringe 😜

[storm birch]

Well well well

[storm birch]

[olive wraith]

Sorry bud

That’s not an optimization I’ll bother with

[storm birch]

That’s ok! I never expect anyone to play as I do! If my way of playing can help even one person then I’m happy

[olive wraith]

Fair

[storm birch]

Oh tbh I think we did the numbers and it’s not an optimization

It’s more a break even I think

[edgy widget]

if you wanna mimic it, you can always just
reck -> charge -> tc -> ava -> Ramp -> TB

[olive wraith]

Ye that’s probably what I’ll end up doing

[coarse nest]

for reference just walked to the target dummy right now during this conversation and cast each ability once

🙂

[south kayak]

Did you cast melee too?

[edgy widget]

that requires separating your reck and avatar binds, but either way it's still 1 extra bind

[storm birch]

Yea I just go brain melt mode with reck and avatar sep

[coarse nest]

you'd have to utilize intelligence to know melee is an auto attack 🙂

[storm birch]

As evidenced by my broodtwister pulls lmao

[coarse nest]

I have reck on my ava bind

but i also have a reck bind seperate

[south kayak]

I'm utilizing sarcasm

[coarse nest]

[storm birch]

Idk what that i word means

[edgy widget]

we don't stack int

[storm birch]

The big one with a lot of letters

[unborn path]

Mountain Thane vs Slayer in S3?

[light tapir]

melee is when you hit something

[coarse nest]

you will never cast ava without reck but you sometimes want to cast reck without ava since its such a short cd

[olive wraith]

Thane aoe slayer st

[coarse nest]

trying to optomize cds in a key or raid boss or w/e

[olive wraith]

Although slayer is pretty good in keys

[unborn path]

Thanks!

[edgy widget]

more Slayer Raid / Thane M+

there's one raid fight we might play Thane on, but several multitarget raid fights that you will play Slayer for

[storm birch]

Gimme another 100% buff on WW so my opener can be lit

[coarse nest]

imagine

[storm birch]

I’m actually super excited for soul hunters. I think it’s been a minute since I have done a council fight

[south kayak]

if WW gets a 100% buff, wouldn't thane use it instead of TC lol

[olive wraith]

Mans is hoping for ww spam

[olive wraith]

Honestly maybe? And then a separate bind for tb

Sounds ass

[storm birch]

Haha maybe. Except for Tb procs I guess. That sounds like it’d be sooooo confusing hahah

[junior gale]

Ww spam would be make reap proc from ww

[olive wraith]

Holy crap

Imagine

[storm birch]

When xan was showing me that revamped talent build and I saw ww procs from rampage I was like dang that sound so cool

[edgy widget]

and then we can all go to complaining about 1 button rotations!

[storm birch]

Then I remembered torghast

[junior gale]

[frank dawn]

FANS

OF

LONGSWORDS

[edgy widget]

Fan of Longswords

[coarse nest]

UNCAPPED

[storm birch]

WW WW WW WW rampage WW WW WW WW Rampage

[coarse nest]

[olive wraith]

Arms was kinda silly when they had the fob build

[edgy widget]

it's been on my wishlist since Shadowlands, but its hard to fit in unless its a really low level talent

[olive wraith]

Silly fun for a few runs but quickly change off of it

[edgy widget]

would make a good tier set though

[edgy widget]

WW already hits harder than TC btw

[south kayak]

I fucking knew it

[edgy widget]

just barely though, like <1% stronger

[olive wraith]

Oh boy

[edgy widget]

TC also generates 2x as much rage and triggers Lightning Strike

[coarse nest]

about 6k more damage on the tooltip

lmao

ww vs TC

[edgy widget]

so TC is still better overall, but in terms of direct damage, the two are nearly equal at this point

[south kayak]

Sounds like TC should be directly buffed though

been a while

[olive wraith]

Can’t buff prot anymore

[edgy widget]

TC is fine, Blast is the more important button

[split comet]

I tried looking for a resource on this couldn't find it, is it worth crafting 675 weathered crest crafts to catch up this week? Or is it better to save weathered crests for next week? I have 658 bracers and rings that I could upgrade.

[olive wraith]

Weathered are mostly useless as the season goes on I think

[edgy widget]

assuming you plan to farm M+ at all, you can spend weathered freely

[split comet]

TY

[edgy widget]

just don't use your sparks on crafting stuff right now

[fading sky]

Weaaapon!!

When u can🤣

[coarse nest]

looted two champ weapons 😄

nice little pretty irrelevant boost for next weeks dungeon grind

[south kayak]

nice crit

[coarse nest]

crit yuck

[chrome relic]

Is depths wep enchant deadge it still sims highest for me. But then again I guess that’s just pure ST

[split comet]

why does your neck have no sockets

[coarse nest]

its not last seasons neck

[south kayak]

is that hoa neck

my favorite

[coarse nest]

ye

[south kayak]

they just put all the necks in this season

[coarse nest]

just yolo put the neck on for 688 ilvl screenshot

[south kayak]

last season we had 2 necks in entire dungeon roster

[coarse nest]

havent bothered simming

[south kayak]

now it's 5 necks

gg

[coarse nest]

its probably worse to drop 3% crit for 4% mastery since im at the soft cap

[south kayak]

of every possible stat combination

[coarse nest]

sim would prob prefer the s2 neck

[fading sky]

Sweet neck

[winter shoal]

Follow what the sims say but in BIS setups the stat procs often seem to be better

[chrome relic]

Yeah it’s like a 5k loss to swap off depths, simming AoE now might just do it anyway.

[coarse nest]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iYAtDpbLXyxhXM6Q86iZ1a

ye old neck better

with s2 neck im almost perfectly below soft cap for haste and mastery

makes sense

[quiet breach]

does it cost a spark of starlight to do weathered crafts?

[smoky vale]

no

[olive wraith]

You craft the blue gear and upgrade them with weathered iirc

[smoky vale]

no

[chrome summit]

any big changes in how fury play for m+? champion spear instead of dragon roar or smt?

[dense elbow]

No big changes, just more clappa clappa if you clappa. Or more spinnywinny, if you spinnywinny

[olive wraith]

Nothing huge. Spear/roar are close enough you can take either. Thane after tier prios bt over rb

Slayer after tier uses bt as a last resort

[dense elbow]

(on ST)

[olive wraith]

Oh ya sorry

[chrome summit]

oki ty 🙂

[flat river]

huh

:susge:

[modest condor]

my bitcoins

[iron portal]

Nooooooooooo

[flat river]

I SAW 3500$

[iron portal]

That was my breakthrough

[flat river]

PLEASE

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[devout totem]

missed 50BTC

[iron portal]

Now my only win in life is beating Galatronk twice in duel

[flat river]

[earnest canyon]

I always miss it....you guys are getting rich as hell and I luck out again

[flat river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1219063984242561116/1233190168647958549/caption-22.gif

[iron portal]

Good

Glad we all are on same page

[prime bane]

How often are you all pressing bloodthirst in your rotation? I do not have a 4 piece from last season and I am not finding myself pressing it at all. Raging blow is always up. I will use it if I need to gain some health but that seems to be the only time which is unfortunate because we do have a talent Reap the Storm which does some aoe burst based on bloodthirst

My nephew says I should be using it way more than what I use it

[modest condor]

your nephew is right

you should be using it every 6-7 abilities or so

[prime bane]

I need to throw hekili away then lol

[gilded pawn]

Heresy

[modest condor]

you build crit chance through bloodcraze and when it's high enough you press bt

hekili might be updated for the new season already

[gilded pawn]

Prob is

I’ll take a look

[modest condor]

with the new tierset you basically dont press bt at all on singletarget

but you dont have that yet

[prime bane]

i have leaned on hekili way too much

sometimes i'll see a bloodthirst pop up but then it vanishes

lol

[rugged cradle]

so the new fury ST prio list on wowhead (which i assume is the most up to date thing) shows TR is 5th/18 when facing multiple targets and 17th/18 on pure ST. Since we dont talent into uproar, does that mean that in pure single talent we are not aligning TR with avatar?

with how the new prio list for pure ST looks like, we might not get the chance to use TR for quite some time into the pull, is this correct?

[split comet]

ur bladestorm/ravager will use the crit buff too

[gilded pawn]

^

[radiant plank]

yes

[gilded pawn]

Ya that’s when it vanishes

[earnest canyon]

It's a laggy piece of shit, especially when swapping between aoe and St. Just delete it.

[gilded pawn]

Skill issue

[rugged cradle]

oh, allright. i tought i was going insane looking at the prio list 😄

[earnest canyon]

Skill issue is using hekili 🤣

[prime bane]

my nephew has 4 piece from last season, i have 0 pieces, he doesn't use hekili and bloodthirsts a lot, i do not. he isn't severely outdamaging me

and i'm speaking in mythics, not single target

i am autistic and if i am gonna be required to watch for a million different procs i do not think i can play it

[gilded pawn]

Not really no

And then yeah hekili is fine for your case

Not too many fast reacting procs for fury

[radiant plank]

get a WA that tells you what proc to react to

[junior gale]

Kaching

[earnest canyon]

Fury is one of the simplest specs in the game

[junior gale]

Swoosh

[earnest canyon]

U will be fine

[junior gale]

Ty WA that tells me when to execute

[whole yacht]

nah dude, fury hard

;-;

[junior gale]

Ty WA that tells me when to bloodthirst

[prime bane]

fury is deceptively simple yes... however we can't deny the procs

[radiant plank]

yes we can

[prime bane]

now ret paladin is a lot easier

to me anyway

[radiant plank]

there is 2 "procs" you need to play around this tier and 1 proc nxt tier

GG

[prime bane]

i have to play around a bloodthirst proc thing

[junior gale]

And you can get a WA that tells you exactly when to use said proc

[prime bane]

which isn't technically a proc since it's just a 20% chance

[radiant plank]

not in s3

You only install the sudden death WA and react to the sound it makes, otherwise follow prio

[young swan]

if you dont know what weakauras are, I would heavily suggest watching a youtube video explaining them

they are very overpowered and broken information tools

[prime bane]

i know what weakauras, it's the program that will soon not be allowed

[gilded pawn]

@modest condor ya thanks for letting me know

[radiant plank]

bro where did this "WA soon banned" thing come from

never heard such BS in my life

xD

[gilded pawn]

the APL they used is new

[undone flower]

soon

[gilded pawn]

i believe the APl used to watch for bloodcraze stacks

[junior gale]

Idk ppl think Blizz is killing add-ons soon for some reason

[chilly fractal]

soon = like 4 years

[gilded pawn]

now its crit percent >85

[prime bane]

i was only basing it on what blizz was saying

[radiant plank]

its a blizzard soon aka 4-10 years of time

[gilded pawn]

and how crit pct is calculated, who tf knows

[undone flower]

Soon is like 5 years yes

[young swan]

blizzard has said they want to nuke addons and weakauras are a prime contender because of fight mechanics

[whole yacht]

blizzard talked about killing addons. and for some reason some people think its like right around the corner

[junior gale]

You clearly weren't because Blizz has never said this

[prime bane]

yes they have

[radiant plank]

Yeah i know that but it doesnt mean that class wa's = dead

[whole yacht]

they actually have. they want a lot of addons ded, and WA's are very very likely to be nuked

[junior gale]

Add-ons are not going away soon my friend. The goal is in the future they will go away when ready

[radiant plank]

BLizzard said they want to reduce the ability of your addons to read the game files

[junior gale]

That shit is not soon

[radiant plank]

not once they said "we want to kill addons"

[young swan]

yeah that part has just been presumed because they've already failed to be able to go the private aura route

[whole yacht]

not anytime soon, but when it happens. WA will likely go with em

[undone flower]

You don’t even comprehend the mountain the game has to climb before turning them off

[fading sky]

Ikr

Like wa's uis

Ppl love that shit

[prime bane]

well i would imagine it's a matter of designing nfights so that additional information isn't needed like crazy

[radiant plank]

Well yeah and current hooks for WA's and bigwigs stuff comes from the same route which ppl assumed blizz would block and not re implement a way to read class buffs etc

[undone flower]

The game lacks a huge lot, not saying it : you are bad at the game, I’m sorry I’m not the type to shit talk

[prime bane]

i aint good lol

[young swan]

yeah, i dont think thats a particularly wild assumption given blizzards track record

[prime bane]

i'm better at hunter by a mile

[fading sky]

M8 game would be unplayable atm

And many many ppl would quit

[radiant plank]

true

[fading sky]

Before bigwigs it was just stopclock to know when shit came up

Games to fast fpr that now

[undone flower]

Im curious on : what is world of Warcraft without readable combat log, parse is dead without it ?

[prime bane]

i feel lik jhin in league of legends playing fury. whirlwind (cause i prefer slayer) and then i count 4 abilities

[whole yacht]

disgusting. league reference

[young swan]

also given the recent additions of the cooldown manager and continued work on making it closer to what class WA packs are, I think it prob lends further credence to the idea that they just want to nuke WeakAuras as a whole

[prime bane]

meh i like league

[junior gale]

Parsing and dmg meters would be gone

[undone flower]

Shush, league is a good game, if you don’t play solo ranked match

[fading sky]

Once they are rdy

[junior gale]

Along with most of the playerbase

[whole yacht]

league is filled with a bunch of degenerates that are toxic for the next 5 games if someone stole 1 cs

[young swan]

i wouldnt be surprised if it came with midnight developement

[undone flower]

lol solo queue = m+ solo queue

[fading sky]

Haha no

[radiant plank]

Didnt they mention that they wnt to just make it a part of the base game BUT wanted to keep the WA option for the portion of ppl who are already used to them

[fading sky]

As said combat log is to important

[young swan]

thats possible as well

[prime bane]

so taking someone like me, who would truly like to get away from hekili but keep in mind that my brain isn't the best in the world due to mental issues. what weakaura would you recommend the most to help me in the easiest manner possible?

[fickle cedar]

yeah league is fun with premades, otherwise uninstall, also aram >>>>

[whole yacht]

play frost mage

[fading sky]

Sound queues

[whole yacht]

spam ice lance

[young swan]

theres a weakaura for bloodthirst that simply tells you when its worth to press it

[prime bane]

@fickle cedar you forgot arena

[fading sky]

Learn rotation

[young swan]

i believe its linked in this discords FAQ

theres a similar weakaura for execute/sudden death

[radiant plank]

https://wago.io/r8u4tHLRQ

[whole yacht]

if you cant handle warrior rotation, genuinely, play frost mage.

idk what else to tell you

[radiant plank]

Get this + generic class cooldonw tracker

[fading sky]

Keep in mind fury is super simple

[iron portal]

Many specs are tbh

[whole yacht]

most specs are

[young swan]

this isnt good advice

[undone flower]

Ret is a good advice

[fading sky]

Ret y

[whole yacht]

why? frost bolt, ice lance, blizzard on aoe

[fading sky]

Play ret have fun😁

[whole yacht]

gg

[prime bane]

sd conditions means what?

[young swan]

okay but hes asking about fury warrior

[prime bane]

sudden death?

[rancid ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-versus-vs-alien-strange-mob-gif-12413747667150461911

[undone flower]

But yeah, you will not dodge the learn the rotation

[young swan]

basically just tells you when execute is worth pressing, thats all

[fading sky]

Go wowhead printout prio list

Hang it on batroom door

Ban phones on toilet

[prime bane]

i know the prio list... bloodthirst isn't even on there

[fading sky]

In 2-4 sessions u got it

[undone flower]

How I’m supposed to goon while I poop ?

[fading sky]

Laminate that paper

[prime bane]

and having a nephew telling me i need to be using more bloodthirsts when i'm not seeing much of a reason to idk

[undone flower]

With the shampoo description ??

[fading sky]

Because current tier we spec into bloodcraze

New tier makes rb even better

So talents moved around

[young swan]

yes because its optimized for season 3, with season 3 tier

[prime bane]

right, i have no tier tho lol

[young swan]

s2 is different

just press BT once every 7 seconds or so

im assuming you're playing slayer which is maybe a bad assumption

[fading sky]

Or if thane on cd

[prime bane]

yeah playing slayer

[undone flower]

Just press when you feel like it had enough RBs

[prime bane]

cause i hate hearing my guy take shit everytime he stomps the ground

[fading sky]

I mean playee slayer in keys.

[prime bane]

only reason i won't play mountain thane lmao

[fading sky]

Is a meme in season 3

[undone flower]

Bloodcraze is a thing only for this week

[fading sky]

Just press buttons, if u arent going to min max anyways

[young swan]

idk if youve noticed, but i dont think this guy gives a fuck about playing whats better

[prime bane]

i'm trying to @fading sky i don't want to be 'bad'

[undone flower]

Min-max m0 for the remaining 2 days

[fading sky]

Well play thane

[prime bane]

even against people with tier i am really close to their dps never touching bloodthirst

[fading sky]

M0 and they suck then

[undone flower]

It is a ST thing

The bloodcraze wa

[summer plover]

hey all, Is thunderous roar really going to be that bad that we dont want to press it at all on single target like the guides says?

[fading sky]

Yup?

[undone flower]

You press BT on cd in AoE, even in S2

[fading sky]

Even in seasonn3?

That reap!!!

Fat reaps

[undone flower]

I think you still press reap in S3

[young swan]

its only like 6+ targets

[prime bane]

well then hekili is pure shit for fury

[young swan]

hekili is "fine" relatively speaking, its just already been updated for the new season

[fading sky]

Its shit end of story

[olive wraith]

I mean hekili isn’t that bad

[undone flower]

6 targets is high enough that I will not count : lot of ppl = BT

[fading sky]

At some training wheels needs to comw off

[rancid ledge]

hekili is bad because u dont use ur brain so when u turn it off u will play like a 80 yo that is first timing video games

[olive wraith]

Let people use it to get introduced to the spec. What’s the harm

[rancid ledge]

ur essentially playing a rythm game atp

[fading sky]

I learn by playing. And always felt that was the only way

[rancid ledge]

the harm is u will never learn from it

[olive wraith]

That’s not true

[fading sky]

Nothing. But as soon as u talk about optimizing heklili has made u worse

[prime bane]

i haven't learned from it

[fading sky]

Bad habits are so hard to loose

[prime bane]

i am so reliant on it that without it i'm lost

[olive wraith]

Not really just takes reps

[fading sky]

Lies

[rancid ledge]

its not a "help" addon its an addon that plays for u and u just press what it tells u to

[fading sky]

Like bad reps are horrid

[restive peak]

Well that's just turning your brain off to a level of stupidity I can't even fathom, you should understand your rotation after several loops through lol

[olive wraith]

You see hekili pressing these buttons

Then you figure out why that’s the case

[undone flower]

Rote learning is the most efficient way of learning for me, but I need to practice repeat, not theory repeat

[restive peak]

Hekili gives you a visual rotation guide, use it for a day, turn it off, compare > do again

until it clicks

[olive wraith]

It’s literally a tool

[fading sky]

Target dummies

[rancid ledge]

u can just read a log or read up on prio list and u learn faster from that instead of relying on an addon to show u ur active rotation

[undone flower]

Target dummies is useless for me

[restive peak]

That doesn't even make sense

They're the same thing

[prime bane]

the reason i use hekili is that my neurodivergent brain finds it easier to deal with

[olive wraith]

Can you say that 100% for every person

[restive peak]

1 is ingame on your screen, 1 is a WoWhead guide

[olive wraith]

People learn differently

[fading sky]

And a tool in the wrong hands is?

[undone flower]

I use them for binds or macros, I prefer practice in some m+ bc more close to real situation

[rancid ledge]

yes it just depends on how willing is the person to learn or are they content with playing rythm game

[olive wraith]

People misinterpret the guide all the time. Is that not a tool? People blindly stack mastery/haste cause the guide says that’s the stay priority

These things teach you what’s generally good. They’re a starting point

[fading sky]

And they will do just fine

[prime bane]

i wish target dummies didn't lose health so you could practice a normal rotation without constantly using execute

[olive wraith]

So will people using hekili

[fading sky]

Nooe

[restive peak]

Hekili is just the APL rotation in a visual way man

You're legit defending the WoWhead rotation/APL while saying the APL can't help them

Lmao

[rancid ledge]

hekili users will do fine but never good its simple

[whole yacht]

i tested this theory, and ive gotten 95's on parses with hekilli rotation

[undone flower]

I wish you had a dummy dungeon boss who moves and throw shif at you, hi kyvesa 👋

[whole yacht]

so

[olive wraith]

Yall are so anti hekili it’s wild

[restive peak]

You haven't presented an argument, feels like you tried Hekili and couldn't handle it and now you think there's something wrong with it lol

[fading sky]

I mean if u allready know clasd?

[rancid ledge]

exceptions to every rule :P

[whole yacht]

this has nothing to do with only pressing the button it tells me to?

[fading sky]

If u know which button is coomin up

[restive peak]

Hekili is the APL

The APL you're basing your sims and gameplay and the WoWhead rotation is broken down into

[prime bane]

it's constantly updating tho

[restive peak]

Anyone saying hekili is bad but guide is good is a legit moron

[rancid ledge]

hekili will have u send cds when u shouldnt and if u dont know your rotation u will be at a dps loss

[whole yacht]

this

[restive peak]

Hekili updates when APL updates are pushed

[olive wraith]

This is why it’s an intro dude

[ocean hemlock]

MT or slayer for M+? and then spear or roar for M+?

[prime bane]

that's not what i mean linc

[olive wraith]

Mt is ahead but slayer still pretty good

[restive peak]

If you're learning your rotation you're not min maxing, that's like saying well you can't play baseball on Tuesdays because you'll never be an MLB 1st baseman

Wtf

[rancid ledge]

?

[olive wraith]

Roar/spear difference is so small play what you prefer

[restive peak]

You're talking about learning the specific CD timings of every pull/raid boss, that's advanced far beyond "I need to learn my rotation"

[prime bane]

@restive peak what i was saying is that the rotation list, the imagery of what button to press updates on the fly very quickly.. i'll see a bloodthirst coming up then it just disappears and it also can't keep up with whirlwinds

[bitter palm]

u can also just drop roar/spear

and play without them

[restive peak]

Yeah if you're relying on Hekili to try and do bleeding edge mythic keys, you're using it wrong

[prime bane]

so you gotta count the ab ilities you use after you whirlwind

[rancid ledge]

so u staring at a rotation helper is better than have better awareness ?

[olive wraith]

Most people have a wa tracking their meat cleaver

[restive peak]

We all count the abilites we use after WW

[bitter palm]

idk man fury is 1 2 3 rotation

[restive peak]

No it's a step towards learning the rotation via muscle memory

Where you can begin focusing on awareness etc

[bitter palm]

ye i mean u just count subconciously after some time playing it

[olive wraith]

Staring at a guide is better than having awareness?

[rancid ledge]

thats where i dont like hekili, cuz u grow a dependancy on it and it can be hard to steer away from it once u learnedd "enough"

[fading sky]

I guess the whole point is ppl learn differently.

[olive wraith]

This

[fading sky]

But then usinf it for m+ /m0

[prime bane]

yeah but then you get people like me. i bet i could turn hekili off right now after playing warrior for quite some time and be entirely lost

my memory is shit

[restive peak]

You could argue the same thing about a fuckin Luxthos rotation WA like what

[fading sky]

So

Hekili is differenr priority based on st or aoe, number of targrts in range

R?

[olive wraith]

Then hekili isn’t a good learning tool for you

[restive peak]

If you used hekili for a week and did mid tier M+, you would eventually start to passively do your rotation

[prime bane]

i aint so sure i would lemme turn it off and go to the dummie slol

[fading sky]

So. Id say hekili is good for dummies, training there, but in m+ content might be bad

[rancid ledge]

yeah thats the point

[restive peak]

Everyone is bad when they're new to the game

[prime bane]

i aint new

been playing since vanilla

[fading sky]

As a learning tool

[prime bane]

lmfao

[restive peak]

LOL what's the point? Never seen such stupidity on doubling down. So every single player on this game that uses a rotational WA is what, bad?

LMAO

[rancid ledge]

do 2-3 keys without rotation helper and u can read logs and see ur mistakes like any other game

[restive peak]

And well some people will never be good at games, and that's cool as long as you're cool w it

[rancid ledge]

not bad just worse

[restive peak]

Convinced Alex is either braindead or trolling at this point

Yeah bro pop in the RWF streams this week to remind Firedup and Revvez they're dogshit at WoW for having WAs

LMAO

[fading sky]

I think the point was rotational help like hekili or the blizzard one, might not teach ppl so much, if they never learn why they push shit

[restive peak]

Yeah they were never gonna learn anyway then, who cares?

[olive wraith]

You could say the same about the guide

[rancid ledge]

top players use things that they think will benefit them, im not questioning their habbits. I'm simply arguing for the sake of where people should start with learning things

[restive peak]

Seriously, if you think hekili is bad or makes people worse somehow, you feel the same about the guide

[undone flower]

hekili is similar to the GPS, you don't learn sense of direction with GPS, you learn to follow the GPS instructions

[fading sky]

Guide does give some explanation if read in full no?

[rancid ledge]

guide gives u an idea of what to do and then u learn the tid bits through playing

[restive peak]

I have never seen goalposts move so much, and I read reddit sometimes for the lulz man

[olive wraith]

Oh right that sounds like hekili

[crude ridge]

I think one of the best ways to learn is via warcraft logs and looking at cast timings

[restive peak]

Holy fuck man, it must be really hard to be you. Dead serious

[olive wraith]

This is definitely a solid way to optimize

[rancid ledge]

yeah thats the best

[olive wraith]

Looking at a log could be very overwhelming to someone who is new

[restive peak]

If they're willing to go to their WCL and break them down, they're going to do so via the guide/coming here/hekili as well

[undone flower]

the best way to learn is playing however you do, but minimizing the "you playing" is a barrier, not that deep

[prime bane]

dps went down without hekili but not a ton and it's mainly because it's difficult watching my big abilities

[restive peak]

Do you have a good rotational WA Klown?

[junior gale]

practice makes perfect

[prime bane]

i do not

[restive peak]

That will be the gamechanger for you

[olive wraith]

Then just use hekili?

[prime bane]

i have no weak aura for the warrior

well i'd rather not use hekili if it just makes me a worse player. i am disabled. gaming is all i have in my life so i'd rather actually be good

[restive peak]

Basically anyone playing without a WA or their bars near the screen center to track CDs will do lower DPS than someone who does, we don't have a 90s clock in our head during fights etc

[fading sky]

Ye i mean, a well made ui + plater is 100% a gamechanger

[restive peak]

Get Luxthos WA

It'll help a ton

[undone flower]

the most basic WA : you have your rage, RB, BT and whirlwind, luxthos is a good entry for it

[crude ridge]

Everyone needs practice but not everyone learns at the same pace. The first step is always to take off the training wheels.

[restive peak]

I've used Luxthos since I came back in BFA and it's never lacked

[undone flower]

i came back in TWW, i use it but modified few things

[fading sky]

Yup

[earnest canyon]

That's what I use too

[rancid ledge]

the fall off is gonna be crazy in midnight for people that rely on too many tools

[undone flower]

i use it as the base bc i don't know shit about WA coding

[fading sky]

Fr ui layout is biggest gamechanger

[fading sky]

Nah

Because we cant track shir

[restive peak]

I can recreate my entire UI w the base blizz 1, it's just an uglier version

[crude ridge]

I can't wait

[fading sky]

So nobody knoes

[restive peak]

Do it every PTR

[fading sky]

Same tbh

[restive peak]

But why would you want an uglier UI when you can choose a less bulky/ugly 1

[fading sky]

Ill miss plater

[bitter palm]

keep wa's for aesthetics

[fading sky]

Mainly for visual satisfaction and customize ability

[bitter palm]

i dont want my game to look like base ui

[undone flower]

i play my rdruid only with the cd manager, it is not good, but it fills some gaps

[rancid ledge]

i love was but i lose so much fps ;;

[junior gale]

WAs to play funny sounds and songs. I will not lose my super saiyan execute WA

[undone flower]

• god it is ugly

[prime bane]

one issue i find with luxthos already is that the abilities aren't numbered so i am noticing i am trying to press the buttons based on their order i see on screen lmao

[bitter palm]

ye i mean getting rid of many wa's is bad

i want them to just

[rancid ledge]

they arent worried about beautifying it rn since WAs are still a thing but i think eventually theyll add more to it

[bitter palm]

put dbm/bigwigs/littlewigs

[junior gale]

they wont for a long time

[bitter palm]

into the base game

[crude ridge]

Honestly just get rid of WAs/DBM and let the chaos flow

[junior gale]

if ppl think WAs are gone in midnight are silly

[bitter palm]

what chaos?

the chaos of making bosses

do nothing

[fading sky]

• details

[bitter palm]

cause u cant track 900 debuffs

without them

it will just dumb down bosses

[restive peak]

That's a learning thing, you just need to mentally know "RB is 3" for example, and plan your keybinds

[bitter palm]

just merge dbm into the game

[undone flower]

MDT ffs, every tanks are supposed to do routes x)

[fading sky]

I mean was are here for at least 5years

[bitter palm]

mdt too

[rancid ledge]

not on launch but eventually they will i hope

[bitter palm]

should be in the game

[prime bane]

freaky you knew my rb was 3

[crude ridge]

That's exactly what they will do.

[bitter palm]

good

[restive peak]

RB is my 3 too 😛

[fading sky]

Hmm 4

[bitter palm]

same

[prime bane]

slam on 1... never use it but it's there lmao

[bitter palm]

holy

[restive peak]

My 3 button takes a fuckin beating

[rancid ledge]

everyone rb is on 3 huh

[fading sky]

Tbh my setup is dumb

[junior gale]

they eventually will like they said but its not gonna be anytime soon will not even be in midnight it will be years. There is so much work they need to do. Blizz has said it themselves this process will be very slow and careful

[undone flower]

just to confuse ppl

[bitter palm]

1 charge
2 bt
3 rb
R rampage
4 iv
5 pummel

[fading sky]

Charge 1???

[bitter palm]

ye it was on 1 during leveling and bt on 2

and i just stuck with it

[indigo arch]

Whirlwind/thunderclap on mousewheel down, all day every day

[bitter palm]

cba changing it

dont need more buttons anyway

4 button spec

[restive peak]

Bro got hp pots on T? T IS PRIME REAL ESTATE BRO