#fury
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dont have stones
ye for the first time
in my life
warr isnt main
i usually main warr and alt 2 more warriors
cooked class
"Over the first few days of Ghosts of K’aresh content, we’ve been closely monitoring class balance and identifying specializations that are beginning to over- or under-perform in group content and in PvP. With scheduled weekly maintenance in each region, we’ll make the following changes."
Love balance based on m0
Peak content
love when they closely monitor class balance and identify specializations
and arms isnt one of them
somehow
love when they remove sheathing on belt for ecodome 2h
im so mad
@radiant plank
do u have eco dome 2h
does it sheathe on the back for you too
Because arms is doing fine atm
And both balance + enhancement was dumpster now and apparantly tier wont save em
@final birch hi i think i didi it
What's app tier
Approaching, perhaps. Prob just a phone auto correct
no
BTW
Opinions on this: https://www.wowhead.com/news/you-only-get-one-shot-per-week-new-source-of-guaranteed-myth-track-gear-in-patch-378067
m+ only players gonna complain cause coordingated raid groups just get more myth track gear while this is impossible to pug
I like the idea, I dont like the one shot per week part, PUGing-wise
M+ players who have a team will do good as well
there are dozens of them
Yeah the only thing I don’t like is one attempt per week
Looks like a fair and easy challenge
We should at least be able to reset and start from the beginning to try again if someone dies
But if their idea is to let M+ players get Mythic gear, this is not the way, cuz most M+ guys with team also raid I believe, so the PUG guys get a bit left out
Yeah, even if it has to be the same team or something, that would be more doable
It is just a bonus for a challenge that will be super easy when you done it once 
Honestly they’re so annoying with gear these days but I’m also just grumpy and bitching to the void so there’s that
Yeah might be this as well
It is, this ain't exactly new content. Just wait a couple of days of the week, in case there are bugs that will kill ppl
Nice tip, well thought
KEKW
How long did taza hardmode take back in the day, 30-40 min?
Sounds about right if nothing else
Is it still needed the item from before, we need to get a new one or how does it work now?
Who knows, but if you are really worried, just do it on an alt before you send your main
or dont care at all and you wont lose years of your life
Ain’t that serious cmon lol
No, just wondering whats required to access the hardmode
Oh buddy you say that
Wait till next week
I guarantee daily 3-5 posts here alone complaining about someone screwing up run lol
hey guys, whats the fastest delve to run atm for vault ?
i did sidestreet slice in undermine but no clue if theres a faster one
They all averaged the same to me tbh
I enjoyed the new one until they made it where you had to be a dragon and it was buggy af
Fungal folly is usually the fastest
There’s a google doc that is maintained showing witch one is considered fastest everytime the delves cycle but I lost my link to it
Might be able to find it if you do some digging
Praying they hotfix this taza bs
The mythic track drop thing?
What bs
U think they should remove or just the 1st clear requirement?
For realllll
Just give people the piece for doing HM, not deathless
It'll still take people awhile cuz of the new mechanics etc but at least it won't be a toxic cesspool
Yeah but that would be too good for them to let it, at least allow for reset and go again
True
Not like we aren't flooded with mythic loot by week 3-4 anyway, who cares if we get 1 extra piece for sloggin through it
Dont get me wrong, Im all for that, but dont think blizz thinks like us 😄
Yeah I mean I'd rather go giga hard and big pull and die and have fun
Than pull 1 pull w CC and take 2min killing it
5-7m wait every boss for lust etc
Devs really feel like they need to prove they hard work earned salary and come up with these kinds of ideas
Just shoot me in the head bro
Yeah that would be good 😄
M+ is popular for a reason, let's do the reverse now and make people hate it and each other, that'll be fun
Blizzard tingz
True true
OHH MYYY GAAAWWWD
Idk why they need to be so "fun-detected: removal protocol"
Just go 5 tanks, and ya dont have to wait for heroism 
Funky will you run OF for HM Taza week 1
Ya know I will
Gzzz
Now i will never see it in vault
Gz on the loot viable for a few days
Unfortunately that yeah ahahahah
I had awful luck this week feelsgoodman
Sameeeee
Amazing stuff that cant be good enough to replace last season gear
LMFAO
@remote bobcat i tried loboz build, shit kinda owns
Couldnt care less about champion track
I got a ring, but also useless 😄
On top of that I got an amazing head indestructible and with a socket!!!!!!!
Champion track and needs to break the 4p set, so nope 🥲
Great for the vendor soon enough
xD
Am I the only guy that trully hates on use stuff that are not trinkets? Like the Best-In-Slots, I will be so happy when it gets replaced by something better
One on-use trinket is enough, I'll just past in macro and go, 2 on-use stuff why? I wanna smack all CDs at once, not save a on-use for next CD round :')))
Thats what im sayin
Its rly good in m0 week
Cuz u burst a lot
Loboz build doesn't burst especially well tho?
Just play slayer and send BT, and it is the same thing 
Keep wrath and fury, and ya slap bosses as well
Nooooo not arms again, let it die
I truely hate arms
Im traumatized
I rather be bottom in whatever content in Fury
I can see you are an arms lover 😄
What is it about it? Feels like kinda clumsy or something
Maybe its me who dont get it
This is most likely what we're going through the race with
So at least 2 raid weeks, so arms is remaining in its grave for now
Then they Nerf fury, cause we know Fury can't have close to any fun in the real content cycle of the game

Kappa
More often since ur more willing to click exe
Anyone who done ?? ended up getting MASSIVE hand pain after or just me? 🥲
More bladestorms
did it twice already
You still get as much CDR for BS, and RB does more dam than execute

Its pretty fun once u get the hang of it
yeah
wanted to try it with consumables again to see how much faster it was
couldnt kill it before the last memory game tho so kinda pointless
I was having a hard time seeing red marks for blade guys but disabling anti-alising solved it for me
hardest part is living the last few rifts imo
I struggle mainly facing and not dying while I swear I was facing it 
Actually I found it fine, just reflect for magic resist, def stance if needed, only used it on the last one
unironically using def stance for the last one
This was me in the beginning ahahahaha
It gets better with practice for sure
downloaded aim lab and that helped
Same, how long did it take you aprox?
no idea
It does, keep at it 😄
wasnt tracking anything
Was asking to see if you went through more rifts that I did
oh kill time ?
7:39
Funky you dont want to press exe as much when rb exists
yes
I used the mudman tank trinket and 20% vers
tahts with drums and pots
7:51 without any
could have been faster but it doesnt reset your CDs on death 
Execute only grants CDR when you consume stacks
stacks you already want to consume
Too far gone, cant check but was something between 10:20-10:30
THISSSSS
You dont want to consume stacks thaaat bad tho!
?
Like yea obv it depends on mfe
But like
Ya do for BS CDR 
Nuh uh
Yuh huh
I also stopped DPSing while on blade guys, might be it, dont judge my bad eyes 😄
honestly that kinda takes more skill cause you have to be in there for longer 
the memory game at 5% had my heart beating tho
I was extremely focused on mechs, kappa 😄
For realllllll, I died 3 times under 17% cuz my hands started shaking
bro I died to knife at 5%
Or a belt
OOOOOF
twice
that is me
Cant keep his shit together
Didnt try but seems like something he would do ahahahah
What trinkets did u take? HoC and EK?
eye and HoC
Yeah same here
its not ike i utilized HoC properly since CDs were fucked
cause i cba waiting 2 min after each attempt
I used ringing ritual mud and pacemaker
like why didnt they make things reset
Think last season and the previous were the same
As fury?
yea
Ur mom
also had shield belt
when exactly do you use Spell reflect?
i think i missed the whole debuff thing
I kept my normal belt crit
i just hope for the best every rift cycle
Reflect at the exact moment the portals pop up
Was upp every rift
ok been doing that
And if you time it well, it goes for the hole rift
i was just oblivious to the debuff you get then
Yeah
I was chilling whole time even when brann died and could save reflect for the dashing dudes
And always had to be aware of pots on the ground too, to try and save impending victory every time I could
Can we still reflect to live a line?
never tried it
Or is it gone totally
if you dont have SR for the rifts you are in trouble anyway
It works???
That’s good so just spell reflect everytime incase of an oops
I thought u couldnt live through it
Even with reflect
But actually didnt test it
Just d stance rifts right and then it’s pretty chill
Yeah if I knew prolly would've done that too, def on rift and save reflect
Helmet 2 belts and ring
my kill was like 8:30 didnt really have to dstance the rifts cause I had like 20% vers
Maybe* worth playing thane too even though it’s less ST because of the mini rally+heal from IF
Idk how threatening rifts are
I haven’t walked into the place yet
Not sure if its my mind playing games on me but it does feel like it
Do we have updated pre new-tier builds? And what's best. I.e. for the first week or so before we get the new stuff.
the same as the last season builds until we get the new tierset
damn
Yurrr
Fair, wasn't sure if there was much difference.

im high prio for bench
lmao
0 pc -> 4pc is 21%, 0 -> 2 is 13.5% increase
I would say we're pretty high priority if you're pumping already
Also we are fine to immediately break 4p with 2p
poggy indestructible!!!!
yeah
my guild is just evenly giving out tier this raid tho
to guarenteed 4pc for everyone by wk 3
If it was mythic blizz wouldnt give me indestructible, not even a socket 🥲
Guess thats RNG life
One days we are unlucky other days we are a bit more unlucky, depends KEKW
What you got? 😄
wep trinket ring legs helm, upgraded all to 691 except helm which I'm not wearing cuz tier
signet trinket
Damnnnnn
Gz mate!
Im really eager to start getting that M+ and Raid gear next week
Even though this week is good to gert lore and achieves from open world in order
I am beyond hyped to zone into the new raid
Oh yeahhh
Is there a spreadsheet with all specs for S3?
UNSURE IF UP TO DATE. But this is the one I pulled from.
those numbers for fury are definitely not real
only 7% for thane too lol
xDDD
feels like these numbers are from before the last set of tierset changes which happened like a month ago
Probably
What time is the WQ reset today?
By reset, I mean the new ones
I never know this fsr
Is it 18h server time?
45m pretty sure
17 ST then, ty 😄
remember when WQs reset every 6 hours? I miss those days
I do remember ahahah
the koresh wq came out last night 10 of them but 2 are real slow spawn rates kinda frustrating but doable
Turn in everything with the reputation buff crazy person
how did you upgrade 4 pieces of gear to 691 i had enough crests to just get 2 pieces to 691
what did u end at
BT lowkey strong
No changes to arms for pre raid tuning, interesting
but might just be me having a weird damage profile
crazy how fury thanes scaling is flatlined now no matter what stats you chose in raidbot. guess its the stats cap playing a role here and the funny thing is also talents dosent make that big of a difference with spear and so on
Stack vers you say?
We are at the point of the expansion where all stats give like the same amount of dps because we have so much
I feel like when they are all the same just stack verse. Get some survivability out of it as well.
Yeah
But then you stack too much and the others pull back ahead
But as long as they are all ~the same verse is nice. Just makes everything a bit easier. Boring stat but strong
Yeah highest ilvl so long as you dont get too far out of sync
If you can get away with it, getting vers just is really really good
Yeah less damage taken and + damage on everything. Its very good. Just boring
Its real great when you can just ignore some bleeds or whatever cause you have enough verse that the healers dont really have to care about it
depends on what u mean by worse
you get a lot more value per point of mastery than you do vers
In this context worse means boring
With 100% uptime on enrage they are both just increased damage. Mastery increases that damage faster. But verse all has the defensive stuff
i feel like vers is equally boring
idk none of our stats are particularly interesting
Yeah honestly only crit and haste do anything "fun" and haste you feel better
what does crit do
bigger numbers
Haste is bis
Okay mast and vers also do big number
Crit also better for offspecs when you need to go prot. At least generally
flat gets boring
unless ur spec has X on crit, crit does nothing
Crit actually might be the worst Stat for me gameplay wise
ya know I am huge "flat is boring" guy
Cause then you don't crit and you are pissed
Yeah I like em bouncy as well
if you turn of dmg numbers crit do be boring too
But you dont notice when you crit, you notice when you don't crit though
I always think the “stats aren’t interesting” thing is like a fake/looking for things to complain about talking point
Didnt we used to get more rage on crits? I feel like that was a thing
What is more fun for yer brain, doing 100 dam, and sometimes do 210 dam.
Or always do 110 dam.
Personal preference question
Sometimes 210 is better
we used to have a fair amount of crit interaction, the only one we have left is cshb
I mean they aren't interesting, they're a means to an end, no one is actually picking 1 of them they "prefer" and playing their char non-optimally
As long as we are not caring about resistances or hit chance I dont really care about stats. Just do what robot says.
That's my outlook on it anyway lol
just grabbin ilvl worrying about stats later
All anybody ever gives a shit about is that their own bar on details is the highest number
Lbh
I just change my name on details to whoever is highest. That way at least the colorblind people cant tell
Not one person in existence goes “ahh yes my character is cooler because I have alot of mastery stat”
Well some mastery is fun
But they sure think they’re character is cool when it’s the highest bar on details
during the gearing process you do cause alot of the times youj have scuffed stats the first few weeks
ele shaman does
Or at least used to be. I havnt looked at every classes mastery in a while.
Like ele sham echos. Thats a fun mastery
feral might, bigger bites is epic
I mean they're all still gonna run optimal lol
I kinda like evokers as well. Reverse execute. Though it isnt very good.
oh yeah warrior masteries are boring
but the majority of spec mastery's are
warrior masteries are just vers without the dr
and with a conditional
Imagine something as simple as your character grows in size (including weapon size) based on mastery stat (besides the damage gain)
It’s stupid but people would feel the cool factor
The more mastery, the more on fire we become while angry 
It could literally be anything other than “more damage”
Haste is cool because you feel it
thats what they tried with hero talents
mastery being cosmetic would make no sense
Crit can be cool because you see the number grow
I mean basically everyones mastery is X% more healing/damage. Only a couple specs mastery actually does something.
Mastery is piss boring along side vers
when do we break s2 tier set?
Vers makes you silly tanky tho, and that got a fun factor
Most I saw was go 2pc and 2pc until you get 4 piece.
“Mastery” of your “specialization” should IMO include more than a passive damage increase you should be able to feel it or see it in some way
This is supposed to be a RPG remember
i think it should be more interactive in gameplay like a proc chance or smth
SD proc chance for arms
for example
Yeah I wouldnt mind a stat rework. Something interactive. But I can see why its somewhat harder to do cause if the mastery is good then every spec just stacks mastery. If its boring then you ignore it.
at least then you would feel it when you get alot of mastery
asap for new 2pc
ty ty
I assume with 2 piece we just play slayer till 4 piece. Thane aoe doesnt really come online till 4 piece.
What if: Fury mastery now increases damage of your Auto Attacks by 30x rate? 
yeah prob
And besides all of my 2 cents, at the end of the day linc is absolutely right. Nobody gives a shit about what stat they have they just want to be “optimal” so it’s really a mute issue
every melee is an autoatack class
uncapped splash?
Uncapped, ofc
nice
Honestly I have been enjoying prots version of ravager. I want that as fury.
how is it different ?
It just procs on its own.
it is passive
ew
Charge in and a ravager jsut shows up and does stuff. Can have multiple up at once sometimes
Not sure why ppl want it to just be passive, but then - ppl dont want to press bladestorm
so prob same reasoning
as soon as it is passive people will complain that the boss moved out of it
I think it’s more cause the proc rate is way higher
technically fury already has aoe execute
Honestly I would prefer if odyns competed with bs/ravager for thane
Slayer use bladestorm. Thane use odyns
He doesn't know how ravager works
Some bosses move pretty quick. But in general it works fine
its too slow
OF should be good for both hero trees
If your tank has 80 IQ sure
im not just talking m+
I still feel like spear/odyns/bladestorm/ravager/dragonroar are all the same button.
Refer to prior statement
they are
well ravager kinda isnt
I presume you mean uptime? And ye, it got more uptime, but actual effect is arguable. There is a lot of power in infintie rage on demand - or useing rav to gather things safely.
But pure hit dummies and dont care about lost flex, sure. It better.
Because they all do fuckall
people complained about CS getting parried when it only happened once every 100 times and you dont think people will hate the fact that it sometimes procs when mechanics forces tanks to make moves ?
Yeah you just pick the simming best on left side. Simming best on right side. And dont even change the macro cause it has em all built in already.
or worse it procs on boss and not on the add set
Thank fuck I pvp where parrying is a meme because I swiggty swooggty get up the fucker's ass and he can't parry
At least Angermanagement and reckless abandon have some rotational change.
But roar or spear is the same macro.
Odyns/ravager is the same macro.
Because you guys make me chuckle about bad opinions on mechanics
Odyns and Rav is the same macro? You meant to say bladestorm, right?
riiiight?
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight?
Okay that’s what it felt like

You ravager in MT
.... same macro
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Question for all! I'm just swapping to Fury from DH and looking for great content creators / players who have solid guides for Warrior. Any go to people that spring to mind?
Baj
Oh I’m dumb we good
Fair I guess odyns doesnt go into the reck macro...its on the avatar one instead. Still dont have to think about it.
Critcake
People macro avatar and Of?
It's a pve macro, but yes
Just click the button every 45 sec instead of 90.
I macro avatar reck rampage and raging blow
@dense elbow this is why you live in the pvp chat, the IQ is significantly higher
Less buttons to press.
PvP chat
Avatar + reck - Reck + Ravager - Reck + RAWR
I’m almost positive you’ll still want a standalone avatar keybind
Avatar reck before you charge in on boss fight to rampage, one button makes it easy when you wipe repeatedly to dumb prog shit
HIT EM WITH THE RAWR XD
You do
“Less buttons” but have 4 extra buttons for specific macros
Not using 3 keybinds for charge/intervene/victory rush. When one button can do it all.
If I can put mutiple cds on one button ima do that as well.
WTF you on about. Every macro is removing at least 1. If it doesnt remove a button then there is no point
Buy a naga and use every button simple
I only really like using the front 6
skill issue
Fury has too many buttons 
It’s 2 buttons. One for reckless, one for avatar. Shift avatar also does recklessness and charge
I have 11 and 12 bound but very uncommonly pressed
I use front 6 with shift and I no longer get carpal tunnel
There is a reason im on fury lol. F some of the other classes
I can populate every naga button with fury as I can with brewmaster

Minus 2 buttons for roll and tigers
I can’t do rotationally pressed abilities on mouse
Just feels way to goofy for me
But utility or cooldowns is good
I mean I can move left and right while spamming rampage it’s fun
Hey bro if it works for you that’s cool
Only rotational abilities id do on a mouse are off the gcd like kick, ignore pain, and shield block
Mouse has cds/pulling tools/taunt/defensives. Rotational is on the number keys. movement abilites are q/e
Only issue I have is I can’t click nameplates as efficiently anymore
Mouse fat and chunky
I have thought about putting shift/ctrl/ ctrl+shift on mouse as well. But I couldnt get used to it
Gives you like 3x more buttons though. Cause you can do like q normally but have ctrl+shift on mouse so you can do the modifer with one hand and the main input on the other
Add a scroll up and down to that Goji. Change camera zoom to shift up/down
Doing that can be weird sometimes. Because now you need to use both your hands for one key press. I remember trying this for BDO didnt work well at all
Yeah I never got used to it. So I stopped trying
Sometimes one hand pushes a button before the other and screws things up
Yeah gotta make sure you always have the modifer first. And I struggled. But I know some who swear by it.
I really like fury though cause I can have all my cds on the mouse. Offensive and defensive. then jsut 1-4 for rotational things. I have execute on mouse down so the 5th rotational goes there.

i wish blizz would go back to making warrior sets that look like a warrior set >.>
The helm makes me thing they have some inside joke about us tbh
The back part of the helm more specifically
Easier for blizz to hold while they fuck us i guess
For real
that ky'veza fight sure is something
looks like a wish version of the Slaanesh traitor legion 
It’s fine except for the massacre shit
0.5 above
You can be perfectly lined up with the red line and it’s like “nope you’re 0.1cm off”
wonder how long this will take me
This happens when u dont pre-align, it feels like if you dont pre-align you're too late, not a bit forgiving those lineups 😛
They want you to pre-align
Once I start doing it, was much easier
Also someone mentioned you are allowed to reflect 1 of those, if you dont use reflect on the portal phase
Being declined from m0s is CRAZY work
Welcome to Tierlist Community
Who dears to decline us
Not big, but a bit bigger 😄
Might aswell quit game
hoenstly the worst part for me this season is how disruptive spear is to the gameplay loop
why do i have an ability that plays like leap
but is necessary for better output
How much worse is t roar compared to spear right now?
how often do world quests reset?
If it proves to be better than roar, Im changing otherwise nope
Should've been 3 min ago I think
Yeah the new ones are up
i mean in general
18 Server Time
Is it work breaking Season 2 bonus for some high ilvl gear
all the big boys are running spear rn
did they fix the 15 per alt wq
You can also macro cursor or player I believe
I might didnt simm yet to see the difference, I believe Archimtiros said it was a marginal diference, still spear was better
I want to hold right click in battle to actually move. i dont want to aim shit at stuff nor myself. just hit w/e im trying to hit and be done with it
warriors arent supposed to do like throwing calculations mid fight
Depends what ilvl your s2 set is. Sims would know for sure
Then macro it, I think you can macro
Then use @ player
@smoky vale
If you macro player, it will put under ur feet
I was doing it for ravager, not optimal sometimes, but it is what it is
Yes and miss mobs when im not literally hitting it when charge arrives
ravager has a way bigger range
That is true, also it follows
let me guess, you don't @cursor leap
Ravager moves so slow though
Warriors when they have an ability that has a tiny bit of skill expression
i guess i will just do my
KEKW
I honestly dont either, I like to see exactly where it is placed sometimes, but thats my complicated relation with leap, otherwise MACRO AND SEND IT BABY
If you hate spear that much
Why do you hate roar
roar goes hard bro, that 45 sec cd is chefs kiss
both abilities suck ass
that comes with time
bro doesnt like warrior
you learn what leap does
Roar does not go hard lol
That was a nice plot twist
he's a self-admitted pinkie, he doesn't get rights
Take roar with no capstones and call it a day
what makes roar with capstones bad now? it was solid in 11.1
did they do some tuning?
It wasn’t the best in .1 either. But with thane it’s just better to spam tb
Roar was looking to be around 2-3% of the overall damage in keys on ptr
So people decided to take stat nodes instead
Honestly
do the stat nodes even equate to 2-3% damage lol
The capstones aren’t worth extra talents
I wish roar and spear were legit good
The base ability is fine
OF
are they really extra if the stat nodes are dogshit
we dont play OF
maybe im wrong, but there's no chance 1% mastery is better than 2-3% damage
It’s a bleed, just making sure you didn’t forget
this one is also big fun node
we dont apply OF bleed, if we dont use OF
dont make it more dense then it needs to be
You’re mistaking me I think. You still take base roar. But the capstones are less value than the stats
If you dont take Capstones, Roar isnt 45 Sec either
Ya
Correct but if it sims worse than other talents
Of fits into slayer decently
next thing you say is you approve SMF existence
that shit needs to be deleted.
7 mil bloodthirst kek
give me an actual talent point there
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if SMF was purely a point spent to make 1h mogs work on 2h, it would be worth it to me
it could be something genuinely interesting instead
So are 4 other talents
Dagger fury is BIS
and they should be changed lol
this is also just a worse version of old rogue combo point system
you can't justify useless talents imo, if the tree has talents that are dogshit for the sake of being dogshit, the trees need to be rebalanced or pruned
Reckless abandon sucks
Dead talents aren’t the worst imo. Can just pretend they don’t exist
AM is king
it's still bad game design. I'm not waking up in a cold sweat about how terrible they are
Am is okay
i just think the warrior dev needs to get their head out of their ass lmao
Fury plays really nicely. I would be worried about major changes affecting game play
spear is simming lower than roar for me
Fury feels like S2 DF which makes me happy
Im a Happy slayer
gm lord slamtaga
With new tier? St sim?
It changes after tier
we talking slayer or thane?
I guess it actually makes sense if you factor in the crit damage from spear and the tier set amplifying tblast
multiplicative damage boosts always go hard
Thane is better
But slayer isn’t a bad choice. You’ll gain more st and prio dmg
But lose out a little sustain aoe
So does fury single target always just feel, meh. I am spcced thane for M+ and notice when we get to single targ bosses I am always lowest of the 3 dps
do you guys think we can get tier pieces from this weeks vault ?
If lucky, I think so
Like, the things youre doing this week for next weke
that would be sick
you can
I will get a tier from delve row 100%
i kinda like that they basically made getting tier pieces free
it was never good with capstones in 11.1
people just ran it
ok
kileld k yveza
at ??
surprisingly not hard
maybe 15 attempts?
mostly died at early then just locked in and got it
nerf fury
"it was never good, it was just better than everything else"
sounds pretty good to me
our class is just bad, im not debating that lol
Does she give anything in vault
no it just wasnt good but people ran it cause they didnt know otherwise
Heard smth about that
its a bad button and the capsstones provide bad value
? it literally simmed higher than any other configuration
uh
Rest even worse
okay and spear has been better in ST all xpac
but no one plays it
i didnt check before and after
if you care about ST on fury you're cooked to begin with
just do 8 delves anyway
its the only thing we're good at lmfao
it did not in st. st is all fury has, or atleast had in 11.1
Not like ST is 80% of what matters in raid and hugely important 3-5 times every dungeon or anything.
Liar moonkin
Brainrotted padlord or
we hate fury warrior
Like since ur a warrior and thus dont get to play keys
Why not actually look at raid and st
lol aight homie
not a mickey mouse gameplay guy
Fury st is pretty good in keys
it's a good thing i don't arbitrate my interest in content on something as trivial as its popularity
AVERAGE BOOMIE
ST does still matter some in keys. If it didn't at all Arms wouldn't be in such a bad spot. It's major flaw at the moment is its ST, it still does good cleave damage.
Alright but does that mean you should ignore strengths of the spec
Previous strength * xd
kappadeluxe take m+ is more popular than raiding
9 less than cowfarmers
"try it i wanna see u try it"
i heard cowfarmers spent 17 pulls thinking about rb>bt at 95 rage
i ran a buncha "lets see how it feels" pulls yday night at like 11pm, like 4-5 pulls just before bed
and then did it in 9 pulls today
so would u say 9 pulls or 14?

Do I Understand rotation for thane properly from wowhead.
It says to thunder blast or even BT prio over rampage (assuming you’re good on enrage).
Does this mean you would TB and/or BT over rampage even if you are at like 130 rage?
He's my goat
Fury warrio
just wait a week or so for ppl to get tiersets and minmax more i guess
But that seems to be lower prio according to wowhead?
It seems to say that TB is the absolute hardest hitter, and then I assume BT to fish for more procs
Tb>>>>>>
Ramp>bt unless targets are below 35% health I think it was
Bigbowwl was looking at the apl yesterday and iirc that’s what it was
I guess I’m reading it right then, TB seems to be the goat, and then BT is even prio over rampage for procs etc, just wanted to hear if you guys were automatically pressing rampage because you saw a red bar filled
Only if the target is below 35%
I think BT takes that prio over rampage if you are sitting on 2 TB stacks
Idk I gotta sit down and revisit it 🤣
Would be opposite if anything no?
Does the apl take into account if you have TB stacks banked vs. don’t? I didn’t have a peek at it
I didn’t personally look at it so I can’t say
Oh sorry yea I meant the opposite of what I said
BT takes over when you DON’T have 2 stacks
Idk if the bot can take stacks into account. Curious about that actually
horrific visions arent worth doing anymore for the helm enchant in s3 right?
the helm enchant doesnt work in s3 so no
Helm enchant can’t be out on s3 I think
Not the helm enchant. But you can buy weapons that you can upgrade. Get easy 691 weap
oh neat
Also this is all for after you get new tier
I need to blast 
Gotta do 5 mask for the vendor but a 5 mask is pretty easy to do
Ya I’m excited for this tier set
Me too
It’ll be fun playing slayer until 4p also
Do we even use WW or do we just TC when we need AoE and dont have TB?
Some nest variety
I have never hit ww as thane before
Take ww off bars for thane
You can get a 681 weapon from visions
And upgrade it
i guess 10 years of shadow priest have def left permanent brain damage
i have reread my talents
691 with upgrades. But those crests might be better spent elsewhere
It’s weather or carved, they don’t matter after this week
Yeah but like a trinket might win
I thought about taking ww off but then saw oxxygg lecture where he proposed to ww while charging in to get the cleave stacks going, I didnt think ww gave stacks if it doesn’t hit anything but I guess he hits somehow towards end of charge
Gotten 3 drops out of M0s so far and two were belts ecksdee
You use it in mid charge and it hits. The dmg stacks up a little too as an extra little filler. It’s a good tip for people that want the comfort of precasting both reck and avatar on a macro before the charge.
(And want to be able to use a cleaved rampage to enrage and then have an enraged TB)
Can’t you tb mid charge
Well clap I mean
Not if you cast avatar pre charge
Not sure you’d be carrying a lot of tb charges between pulls
It would be a TB
Yeah TB duration isn't that long
it's like 8 secs or so
Yea I think 8 sec
You can't pool it
Yeah that's the one im using
you have to use ravager asap though to just line it up with reck
Yup. Thats the other way. But I don’t sep rek and avatar. One macro. So it wouldn’t work for me. It’s a simplification on my part. And I don’t really lose anything
Probably after blast I would think
You’re a funny man 🤣
Adds ww to enable macro
Made me chuckle
It’s macro -> reck/avatar -> charge -> ww during charge -> rampage -> blast
Lmao yes!! Hey that WW damage adds up xD
so what do you do when you only want to reck? just press macro and not have avatar for when you want it?
I love it it feels super natty haha
Open spellbook and click recklessness
Does Clap deal more damage than WW
Lmao jk
I mean I feel like clapping is the same thing lol
I just don’t have that issue tbh
@sudden tusk Is Bwomsadi happy that Fury is "back"?
No clue o.O
Pretty sure clap does more
Ja clappa
After all these WW buffs, I'm wondering lmao
I wish I had an overall to look at rq id show you the WW dmg i do just from weaving it into my charge on thane. I think it’s like .9% or something
I'm just glad my class doesn't feel like a bottom feeder in m+
Yet :suske:
this spec is cooked pre tier in M+
Play slayer
About that... Fury nerfed with 20% 
True
Inc
I did run into this issue one time. On broodtwister I had to reck but not avatar at the start. Sadly I had to separate them for that fight. Blew my brain up but I got it
Someone mentioned something about that before lol
After prot being nerfed without touching us. I think we are safe
If Madox had 1000 viewers I'm one of them. If Madox has 100 viewers I'm one of them. If Madox has has 10 viewers I'm one of them. If Madox has 0 viewers I have switched to Ret Paladin 
@sudden tusk
brood makes sense. think i also pressed reck but not avatar on gally, but lowkey don't remember much of that fight ahhah
lmao
Yeah that does give me hope
I like the cope
Maybe depends when you were progging it. My squad was pretty late to prog and everything lined up almost perfectly to all adds and such
pretty late to prog. like rank 900 or something
Oh we around the same-ish I think then
You can tell which spec the community thinks is meta cuz the dogshit spec channel just turns to shitposting
Very little reason to be nerfing fury
I think they see the
icon and say "hmm let's nerf it"
It's joever
lmfao
arms channel is gonna be an apocalyptic gif spamming cesspool until they buff them
Even the icon shows too much strength for them
Lets be honest, there is NO spec icon like ours


This is the Fury channel after all 😄 ❤️
Right guys
My guy
Ok now this is also true, THAAAAAANEEEE
lulw thats pretty close
It’s a class icon that goes hard imo
in the context of damage
yes
Has to be rage bait
Ah yes the old I have a different opinion rage bait
Guys I'm just here to give my guild Battle shout, what about you?

Guild?
FASTEST DELVE TODAY?
lmao
I switched to heal this tier so I'm healing
Street
srs?
I think the Nightfall one
Errrrrrr
kyveza took me like 10 tries
i see a nerf odyns fury roll coming
loser!!!!!!
I like to press Rampage

loser loser
Bro who cares about OF
@dense elbow
its a critacke joke
if u haevnt seen the last vid
yeah
Odyns fury? Champions spear? Raging blow? What are you talking about? We have to clear Lich King
what are the rotational changes when we get 4p?

You bt
👍
And then you blast
You execute more often
Slayer you execute at 2 stacks of mfe
ig we just update the weakaura and play the same then yea?
Basically
nice
does anyone have the clip of zerocool writing a ticket to blizz cause he crafted int dagger
I think its often enough that you dont really need it. I dont know the exact numbers but I thought I saw something about just sending execute when you can vs holding for 2 stacks was almost the same.
I could be wrong though dont trust me
oh damn
if the only conditions are 2 mfe stacks or juggernaut is about to expire its chill ig
Wait for the updated guides to know for sure. Doesnt matter much till 4 piece
aye alr
I guess the guides are already updated. But they are not relevant till 4 piece. You use season 2 guide till then
Are my hands supposed to hurt when I'm eating with chopsticks lol
i see i see
bro
This is the footnote on the slayer st guide right now
Extremely minor loss for just sending it
whats considered minor loss?
It doesnt say
oh and BT is never higher prio than raging blow now?
Rip bt
If its mentioned in wowhead guide = major loss
not mentioned = minor loss
But itll be up to each person to decide whats worth more. Getting rid of the sound and just sending it. Or using the weakaura.
wait so our rotation is just more simple then :D
I get what your saying. But the wording of extremely minor makes me think its like 0.5% or less assuming you use the weakaura perfectly every time

WAIT IS THIS THE GOAT??? 
