fury

[tepid cedar]

😀

[raw bone]

on thane you also do that?

[uneven schooner]

i think thane uses spear

[tepid cedar]

Thane uses spear but roar really isn’t a bad option

Bc it’s more than 5t

And some dungeons we will have giant pulls.

[raw bone]

ok, so on thane we use roar/spear as a cd

i mean on st

[tepid cedar]

Radius of spear is a downfall

[raw bone]

for example on bosses

[tepid cedar]

I haven’t done a lot of thane st target practice so I’d have too look at apl for that for you in a bit

[raw bone]

alright, ty!

[tepid cedar]

I’ll be home soon and I’ll take a look for you

But you could also

Do a 1t 5 min quicksim with the thane build

And then look at the mock pull

And see what it is doing

With roar

[raw bone]

with spear it is using it on cd

[uneven schooner]

its prob b/c spear talents give you crit damage

makes it worth pressing

[tepid cedar]

Yes

Though he was asking roar

[raw bone]

yeah i was

well... both tbh

just that i dont have roar talents xD

[tepid cedar]

With spear on cd

[raw bone]

gonna change them in a sec and try

[hardy wadi]

hey so we can get two catalyst charges on reset so we can immediatly do 2set? does anyone know if 2 set changes rotation for slayer? ^^

[tepid cedar]

Yes. And I’ve heard the delve slots can drop tier piece

Not sure if that’s accurate or not

[hardy wadi]

i also heard about 2 charges from someone else

no blue post or anything

so i hope its true

[tepid cedar]

I think it’s 1 charge

Then 2k io

Gives you 2nd

[warm crag]

should be 1 charge + the curve/2k piece

[hardy wadi]

so like every other season then

[warm crag]

y

[tepid cedar]

Spongie

You heard anything about vault having tier as a chance?

[hardy wadi]

does anyone know how 2 set changes slayer rotation tho? in wowhead i didnt see tier set rotation

[warm crag]

why wouldn't it

[hardy wadi]

m+ had tiers all the time

but not sure for delves

[plush zephyr]

I need a updated Larias' 11.2 Checklist with the deathless run included now lmao

[tepid cedar]

Someone in game said that the first vault has never included tier

[young swan]

just changes execute conditionals for slayer, dont think anything changes for thane

[warm crag]

p sure it did last season

[young swan]

bigbowl posted them earlier

[raw bone]

ok it's not using roar on cd, that's for sure

[hardy wadi]

so does that actually mean not waiting for 3 stacks before executing now?

im assuming dont let juggernaut fall off

[young swan]

yeah, 2sd, jugg dropping, or 2+ mfe

iirc

[hardy wadi]

so 2 stacks now and not 3?

or what u mean with 2sd

u mean

both sudden death?

[storm rune]

the wa dings earlier

[raw bone]

2 stacks of marked so you dont suddenly get 2 procs and lose a stack

[young swan]

its the exact same but 2 stacks of the debuff instead of 3

[hardy wadi]

ah i see

so the weakaura is already updated for it?

in ptr?

[young swan]

uhh

you'd have to ask someone else

i use my own (kinda)

[hardy wadi]

i will see it i guess when i have 2 set

[storm rune]

Should be able to see it under trigger conditionals

[lean heart]

this is what the WA page on wago says so im not 100% sure

[hardy wadi]

ah sounds accurate

thanks

[winter shoal]

Don't you use mine

I remember you asked me to add the overwhelm stuff to it

and then it was accidentally broken all tier and nobody told me

[olive wraith]

I think it’s not gonna be bad to just send sd on proc

[winter shoal]

I think Archi said that was like -1% or something

Not a big deal at all if you want to do that

[sinful spoke]

delve tier and m0 will drop tier im psure

[hardy wadi]

i just see that the new tierset armors have not the same colors as the 2handed swords <-< the only one matching is lfr difficulty swords with heroic armor

kinda sad x.x

[sinful spoke]

welcome to wow

we havent had matching shit since like legion

bfa actually

[hardy wadi]

dragonflight season 1

the razageth axes

were gucci with the stuff

the last time i remembered

[sinful spoke]

yeah but the mog was shit

mining node

[hardy wadi]

excuse me x-x

well the elite pvp one was nice with the legion antorus fire swords

[open prairie]

T3

call it a day

[hardy wadi]

look at those bad boys

i will farm lfr with 4 chars

[young swan]

i yoinked all the conditionals but i baked everything into revvez's WA pack

cause i didnt like the whack-a-mole style weakaura

[winter shoal]

Did his not include the overwhelm condition?

[open prairie]

the tier looks dumb

[winter shoal]

isn't he the only one who cared about overwhelm anyways

[young swan]

i think his had 0 conditionals

[hardy wadi]

i like this tier

reminds me of warhammer with a mix of predator

[young swan]

i got it before the tier started i believe

[hardy wadi]

and i mean curved 2 handed swords? hello i was waiting for it for a long time

well kinda curved

[uneven schooner]

do you guys think there is any merit to just running slayer in M+ since we are target capped? just let the good aoe classes do the aoe?

[hardy wadi]

im doing slayer all the time, was a rough season... i will do the same for s3 tho :D

[earnest canyon]

I'd just play what you find fun personally. They don't pay your sub.

[uneven schooner]

im fine with both

[open prairie]

most pugs dont pull big enough for target cap to be a factor?

[uneven schooner]

just wondering what other people think

[hardy wadi]

the thane opener feels weird to me

never got warm with it

[open prairie]

Im probably gonna play prot more in keys though

[earnest canyon]

I don't like slayer so thane for me

[drowsy flint]

oh

theres no pass the tuna in this channel...

[hardy wadi]

pass the tuna? whatcha mean?

[drowsy flint]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-pass-down-gif-12523640702135139778

[young swan]

go look arms chat

[hardy wadi]

ahh i see

[drowsy flint]

no you shouldnt go in there

its the souls of the restless damned

[hardy wadi]

i will shower afterwards

should be fine

[uneven schooner]

lmao

they are down bad

[earnest canyon]

It's better than 4 pages of the coffin guys I guess

[olive wraith]

Thane is less hindered by the meat cleaver cap

[obtuse imp]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shaking-head-gif-21797829

arms players when they are not S rank

[olive wraith]

Nah they’re allowed to doom. They’re down real bad

[quiet breach]

arms is actually horrendous tho

like F tier

[hardy wadi]

im in a crisis. i want the heroic tier set for tmog and the lfr swords.... but what mounts has the color scheme... ? x.x didnt think about that

[quiet breach]

and I don't even play arms

I only play fury and prot lol

[open prairie]

I mean every time i check fury people say this spec is bad

but its fine in raid

[quiet breach]

that's what it was in s2

we are better now

after buffs

[open prairie]

it wasnt even bad in raid though

[quiet breach]

nobody said it was bad in raid

[open wigeon]

Wondering why they nerf it like 4 times in PTR

[olive wraith]

Wasn’t it twice

[uneven schooner]

i swear theres always like 1 or 2 nerfs that blizz just rolls the dice on just to keep the community confused

[olive wraith]

Execute nerf wasn’t bad

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-pass-down-gif-12523640702135139778

[brittle crow]

https://tenor.com/view/ju-fufu-zzz-цзюй-фуфу-ззз-дзюй-фуфу-gif-15837448921784755971

no

[bitter palm]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-pass-down-gif-12523640702135139778

[bitter palm]

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/trojan-horse-gif-15858391086454759725

[earnest canyon]

Yup that's why they are making Revvez heal. He's been secretly practicing for months

[olive wraith]

Isn’t that just because they’re using prot war

[slim coral]

[smoky vale]

holy aura

:swordish:

:smorbsmish:

wrf

[slim coral]

[cunning karma]

[smoky vale]

@young swan give him an emote

:swordish:

[young swan]

if u keep asking i wont do it out of spite

[brittle crow]

give me 1

[smoky vale]

[bitter palm]

make arms troll emote

[young swan]

i will give emotes to whomever i please

[hardy wadi]

[brittle crow]

teto emote...

[bitter palm]

blue man xantage... evil....

[drowsy flint]

https://tenor.com/view/zzz-ju-fufu-spinning-gif-16532348714103643943

[smoky vale]

:woo:

[bitter palm]

make cowfarmers

[earnest canyon]

Can my pfp be an emote with the tag lard

[bitter palm]

some sim number screenshot

[smoky vale]

no way we replace gajeel with cowfarmers

[bitter palm]

nono i didnt mean that

i meant like

sim screenshot

and call it cowfarmers

gotta respect the goat

[smoky vale]

xantaga are you having fun playing wow or genshin more

[whole remnant]

@young swan give gio57 an emote

:gio57:

[smoky vale]

stop

do not pauck

i dont want to go boom

[bitter palm]

u already exploded once

[smoky vale]

[bitter palm]

Outlaw

All ability damage increased by 5%. This change will also affect PvP combat.

ngl this is weird

considering the fact that outlaw is simming pretty high

or is it

i forgot

[smoky vale]

i think it is

[bitter palm]

post from 2023

[earnest canyon]

I thought rogue sucked apart from ass

[bitter palm]

bro i cant be this stupid

cba

[junior gale]

F

[bitter palm]

sub and assa

are insane

in m+

in raid sub is gonna be very good

[earnest canyon]

Oh ok

[bitter palm]

cause dmg amps

[cobalt relic]

where do u get them swords

[earnest canyon]

AliExpress

[spare flame]

which fiber are we taking here? does it matter?

[young swan]

doesnt matter

[spare flame]

word, ty boss

[young swan]

get epics crafted at the work order person

use those

[bitter palm]

also spend ur valorstones

[young swan]

vers is popular

[bitter palm]

until 691 aka no using hc crests

[thick fossil]

Seems haste is what's on WoWhead BiS list, but best sim it.

https://imgur.com/a/7KsyCKl

[quiet breach]

doesn't matter cuz u will get the better one crafted by a tailor. also you can swap them out freely without them getting destroyed like gems

[sleek parrot]

quick question, is hack and slash on thane m+ talents not worth taking, I feel like it often happens that I run out of both bt and rb? what changed from season 2?

[junior gale]

Dont switch to the new talent setup without new tier.

[young swan]

^

[dense elbow]

[olive wraith]

More tb to press equals less rb presses

[sleek parrot]

ah makes sense, didn't see that mentioned in the guide. should I also go back to roar instead of spear until I get tier?

[junior gale]

doesnt really matter

[young swan]

you can keep spear if u want

[olive wraith]

Spear/roar difference is so small

[plush zephyr]

Don’t switch

Doesn’t really matter

[dense elbow]

Roar with nodes buff every OF cast tho

it matters, surely

[olive wraith]

Of is stinky for thane

[frank dawn]

It hardly matters to take roar or spear to begin with, so really doesn’t matter between the two lol

[brittle crow]

roar does less dmg and doesnt buff ur crits

easiest choice of ur life

[frank dawn]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/class-tuning-incoming-–-august-12/2145523

[brittle crow]

for prot only?

[wind canopy]

LMFAO

[brittle crow]

did we dodge nerfs?

also isnt this like

the most unimportant unnoticable nerf possible

[frank dawn]

Omega tame tuning across the board

See you all after the race lol

[junior gale]

So kind of blizz to do prot only nerfs for fury

but fuck arms

fuck arms so hard

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/bornskywalker-dap-me-up-woody-woody-handshake-woody-toy-story-gif-26021440

🔮

we win

[olive wraith]

We fukn dodged it

Dude so good

[sullen dove]

arms tho… 💀

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/1402024314978439373/Doom_Gif_2.0.gif

[frank dawn]

Prot gonna be a fuckin blaster with tier lol

[olive wraith]

Fury boys rejoice

[sullen dove]

blue man also getting some wildly needed buffs too it seems

20% behind ele poggers xeos

[olive wraith]

Iirc that’s not even a big prot nerf

lol

[frank dawn]

It’s kinda big on ST but basically nothing on aoe

[olive wraith]

Ye ionizing is huge for st

[thick fossil]

Wow..... not a fucking thing for Arms.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/1402024314978439373/Doom_Gif_2.0.gif

[rotund ginkgo]

Good

The spec should be dead with how clunky it plays

Rework it

[thick fossil]

Agreed with the clunky, but they should at least been given something to tide it over.

[candid bear]

Quick question, does stat priority change when using single minded fury?

[olive wraith]

No

[candid bear]

Thank you 🙏

[quiet geyser]

i mean, lock and DK somehow went untouched so dunno how you're surprised lol

[earnest canyon]

Would have been funnier if they actually ate a nerf

[rotund ginkgo]

"arms seems to be playable so we're increasing mortal strike rage cost by 5000%"

"cleave is now gatekept behind level 81 talents"

[earnest canyon]

Hahaha

[thick fossil]

Shit, still time for them to pull that trigger. Lol

[earnest canyon]

I mean it would be funny, but I honestly expected them to get a buff or we are reading way too much into the sims or something

[primal plover]

who else betting that some bug will make fury thane cop the 30% ISrike nerf too hahah

[earnest canyon]

I hope not but I'm not in some mythic guild so I will just cope

[dense elbow]

I hope ya get affected

[earnest canyon]

[rigid stirrup]

phew

[rare forum]

Wtf is this ...
https://www.wowhead.com/news/you-only-get-one-shot-per-week-new-source-of-guaranteed-myth-track-gear-in-patch-378067

[olive wraith]

It’s great

[brittle crow]

let me outgear the shitters

[storm birch]

The hard mode extra mechanics are pretty lit too

Looking forward to trying it

Would be nice if each person got a life and if all 5 lives got depleted then you lose. Would help not be insta brick for the week if one person DC’s

[rare forum]

1 guy fucks up and your week is fkd. kekw. great design

[storm birch]

Like a lag spike or something silly like that

But still keep it mad challenging

[young swan]

yeah i mean dont pug it

doesnt seem like its meant to be puggable

[olive wraith]

You fail? Things are normal

No sweat off my back

[storm birch]

I do get mini freezes sometimes that drive me. Crazy. That’s why I think slight pc/wifi protection could be cool. But it’s also not a big deal cause you can still get all the other loot

[sterile hill]

Arms channel in full meltdown mode

[carmine hawk]

servers are down in EU?

oh its daily thing

or not

no idea

[olive wraith]

They somehow dodged buffs the same way fury thane dodged nerf

[bitter palm]

Over the first few days of Ghosts of K’aresh content, we’ve been closely monitoring class balance and identifying specializations that are beginning to over- or under-perform in group content and in PvP. With scheduled weekly maintenance in each region, we’ll make the following changes.

[earnest canyon]

Arms warriors are ddosing out of sheer rage

[carmine hawk]

xD

[violet condor]

you think fury deserves nerfs?

[olive wraith]

I was thinking fury would catch a stray cause prot

[frank dawn]

There’s no world where any fury spec needs nerfed people just assumed it would catch a stray because of prot yeah

[violet condor]

surely they wouldnt do that to us like they did arms s1

[frank dawn]

But arms not getting any buffs…

[violet condor]

they...surely they learned

[frank dawn]

WEWLAD

[uneven pilot]

Depends how much money you have to build a PC. :^)

[olive wraith]

Not s1. Literally this past ptr

[violet condor]

what happaned in ptr

[olive wraith]

Arms Colo took a bleed nerf cause of prot

[violet condor]

rip

[frank dawn]

Arms kinda dog shit tho. So leave that garbage in the dumpster until they rework it

[sterile hill]

https://i.imgflip.com/a2lrdf.gif

[carmine hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

Im high on caffeine to rush through delves

come on blizz

[olive wraith]

I mean it would have been mid if they just didn’t eat the nerfs

[carmine hawk]

please blizz nerf arms cause there will be one niche where they are decent

[echo rapids]

Arms is too cerebral, fury and prot are both now warrior appropriate zug zug hit button that lights up

[carmine hawk]

based

[brittle crow]

what build do i play in m+ until 4set

the slayer build labeled alternate on wowhead?

[carmine hawk]

me hit button shine me vibe music blasting

[carmine hawk]

kasane teto fan and not even have fatass on profile pic

fake fan

[brittle crow]

IM LOOKING FOR ONE OK

i didnt want to just have a pfp of the fatass thats unoriginal

im looking for nice art

[carmine hawk]

drew a mustache and sombrero

you can be mexican teto

[olive wraith]

S2 slayer aoe build

Idr if anything changed really

[severe bough]

So Thane aoe is only better this coming season for Mythics if we have four piece?

[olive wraith]

Compared to slayer? Yes

[severe bough]

Yeah, just trying to figure out what spec to push with until I get the 4 tier

[carmine hawk]

prot

[orchid dagger]

Prot just got dragged out back

[junior gale]

S1 they did it to us again in S3 PTR Colossus nerfed for prots sins

[echo rapids]

[orchid dagger]

It's not even that bad tbh, we still mog everyone else on ST as PWar

[brittle crow]

should i bother spending valorstones on these

750 is a fuckton

of stones

[orchid dagger]

Operation Boarding Party is a go

[tiny jewel]

Get it to 691. Stones are easy to replace

[brittle crow]

weirdly enough sims say it should go in the offhand even tho its higher ilvl

wonder if its because its not enchanted

[smoky vale]

over what

did you not put it in your mainhand sim

[brittle crow]

i did

i simmed both my weps in both hand slots

sim says the 691 goes in offhand

[smoky vale]

link ism

[brittle crow]

k sec

nvm i lied hehe

idk why it told me that the 1st time

i fucked it somehow

[frank dawn]

[bitter palm]

Over the first few days of Ghosts of K’aresh content, we’ve been closely monitoring class balance and identifying specializations that are beginning to over- or under-perform in group content and in PvP. With scheduled weekly maintenance in each region, we’ll make the following changes.

[oblique thistle]

Play season 2 thane talents if you have them saved

[brittle crow]

i do not nyea

[oblique thistle]

I can send a screenshot in a bit

[brittle crow]

isnt slayer better than thane in keys without 4set rn tho

i can just slayer it up for a bit

[junior gale]

yeah

[frank dawn]

They are close really, but slayer has the edge. So if you’d like some slayer time it’s not trolling

If you can even troll in M0

[junior gale]

you cant but it can give you some minor dopamine while you feel like a chad playing slurry

[languid marsh]

the recommended enchants isn't double depths anymore?

[onyx musk]

Is the tier set nerf only targeted for prot and no stray for fury? Not like the arms 2p tier bleed nerf which was for both arms and prot?

[proud portal]

yeah it's targeted for Prot

[sullen dove]

izzat what it says on wowhead

doesnt sound completely unrealistic if its dmg isnt getting buffed and ours is would make sense the stat ones simply provide more

arms already stopped using depths last tier i think

[onyx musk]

Wow didnt know blizz can do that, usually other specs get hit by strays before. Nice then ty ty

[proud portal]

Yeah it basically linked too spec and tier set of that spec been that way for awhile

[spare steppe]

For pure ST depths sins higher but much worse in any kind of cleave/aoe/m+

I did depths+oathbringer

[edgy widget]

as you get deeper into S3 gear, no; though you can sim it yourself before then

[edgy widget]

even in ST, Depths starts getting beaten by stat enchants

outside sources of damage always gets outscaled over time

[proud portal]

What we'll be the recommended one deeper into the season?

[snow flower]

Radiant Power, I assume

At least, it sure has been simming as the best option for my non-optimal loot collection from S2 😄

[edgy widget]

radiant power is also direct damage

[snow flower]

But also mainstat? I'm not the expert, though, only speaking to what sims have told me at my current position

[spare steppe]

Damn good to know, I was just doing current gear sims

[upbeat plume]

the new reccomended enchants are up in the guides I believe

[sour tundra]

no more buffs to fury this class tuning on the 12th. Warriors dead again

[olive wraith]

Fury is good my guy

I’m happy we dodged a stray nerf

[wheat oyster]

are there any cheeky delve trinkets we're hunting for start of season again like last season?

[olive wraith]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/bis-gear

[fluid pollen]

Did we get hit w that 30% nerf?

Or just prot?

[wind canopy]

just prot

[bitter palm]

Over the first few days of Ghosts of K’aresh content, we’ve been closely monitoring class balance and identifying specializations that are beginning to over- or under-perform in group content and in PvP. With scheduled weekly maintenance in each region, we’ll make the following changes.

[brittle crow]

can you not mount up while phase diving?

gonna kms

[wheat oyster]

yea i checked and didn't see any delve trinkets mentioned in the section. was moreso referring to last season where someone found the trinket from kriegval rest to be op before it got quickly nerfed

[edgy widget]

drops aren't specific to individual delves, and Mechano-Core didn't actually get nerfed, there was just a bug we didn't know about at first

[wheat oyster]

it was mechano-core and noggen-something right?

suspicious energy drink the name escapesme

noggenfogger's ultimate deluxe that's right

[edgy widget]

ah yeah, noggen was a bug we were aware of, which is why it was never recommened - we knew that one was getting nerfed real fast

[wheat oyster]

yea i saw you could buy delve trinkets but i was curious if any low ilvl testing was done to see if any were strong at least for the 1st week of raid at the very least

[edgy widget]

but to answer your question, no, there aren't any particular OP/competes with M raid drops, delve trinkets next season

[summer quail]

i swear it got like an extremely tiny nerf early. however the bug we did not know about was much bigger(still very good trinket tho)

[wind canopy]

looks like with a cloak upgraade next week you will be able to mount which is nice

[edgy widget]

I don't recall mechano-core getting nerfed at all, the "bug" wasn't even Blizzard though, that was on SimC side because we hadn't gotten to test it during the PTR

[dapper goblet]

4% enhance buffs

[summer quail]

march 10th

[wheat oyster]

with so'leah's technique, are we looking for a class with higher mastery, haste or vers?

[edgy widget]

ah I remember that now, didn't have any impact on our using it

it was the no longer getting multiple buffs at the same time part that killed it

[edgy widget]

whatever is your strongest at the time

[summer quail]

yee, very small nerf by blizzard

[edgy widget]

they are so back

[dapper goblet]

shaman might be as bad as people make warrior out to be

[wind canopy]

christ I didn't know enhance was that bad

[olive wraith]

Boomie*

[edgy widget]

I mean this is all pre-tier too

[wheat oyster]

damn i didnt realise warrior was that in the bin, sims seemed promising

[edgy widget]

see previous comment

[wheat oyster]

yea

[summer quail]

very high up

[olive wraith]

Aug is giga lmao

[edgy widget]

Fury jumps up; it's not gonna be OP at all, but it'll be decently average

Arms is still gonna be

[dapper goblet]

we dont talk about wizard shaman here

[oblique trail]

Good to see warlock is hanging in there despite their circumstances

Rough times

[wheat oyster]

i stepped back from mythic, only going for aotc just for the sake of still being subbed as i'm playing mop. was thinking of rerolling to a stinky season meta class but at the same time i cba learning a class rotation where i have to stare at my action bars for what'll be like 3 weeks

[summer quail]

can't believe marksman is that high. insane for dobby tier spec

[wheat oyster]

it's insane how good arms feels in mop compared to retail

[edgy widget]

idk I heard they were pretty bad still

[quiet breach]

if u beat kyvesa u get a 691 wep?

[bitter palm]

mm is awful btw

[oblique trail]

I do pray for the purple class

One day they'll be good

[wheat oyster]

25 minute video to say that arms warrior needs to lose juggernaut and half the capstone talents

[bitter palm]

one day they will be like arms

[olive wraith]

[rose bay]

Bring back 5 locks

[remote nova]

any reason why simming is telling me to replace belt with 701 champ level?

[summer quail]

Are you simming the belt with an effect on it?

[remote nova]

yes

[summer quail]

Link sim

[remote nova]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3XcPCFL178qqWkxfDx89tK

[languid willow]

so I notice teh sims are showing like us NEVER using bloodthirst in slayer outside of like 0 raging blows and its basically like 2 ragings> ramp rotation otherwise and then BS as many RB as possible then Ramp. Maintaing this along with basically filling with bloodthirsts and maintaining execute conditions. Is this correct? I've been copying it and actually doing more dmg than following the priority for the crit based neccescity for bloodthirst

[summer quail]

Ughh reading that on phone is aids

[sullen dove]

do u rly have a belt equipped at all

4.8% gain from swapping belt seems kinda wild

shoulder ilvl upgrade also sorta included there

[remote nova]

yes

[sullen dove]

also higher ilvl weapon should be mainhand as like baseline rule

if it is already or sim just shows when its upgraded

o i mean 1 min 5 target sim

prolly also wonky

think for aoe most ppl just do 5min anyway for both st and aoe

[summer quail]

And you have a power selected on the belt?

[sullen dove]

since like 1 more or less proc is that much more noticable in that short a timeframe

vs it being more normalize for 5 minutes

[remote nova]

it's strange showing belt swap for 1 boss 5 target too

[plush flower]

its because like every piece of gear you have has crit on it so critical chain isn't going to sim well

[sullen dove]

crafted pieces do look quite armsy

[plush flower]

resim your crafted pieces to vers/mast or haste/mast and it would probably be better

[remote nova]

will do

[remote nova]

that makes sense being i was main arms last season

[olive wraith]

That sounds pretty close to the prio though

[solid tiger]

is there a macro we can use for Champions Spear (i noticed that is in the M+ build, well at least on wowhead)? I feel like i a missing 2 globals having to position it. just feels laggy

[slim coral]

Just remove BT off your bars in st

[olive wraith]

Just @cursor it

[violet condor]

whys it say 4%

[solid tiger]

any way to do it on your current target? I'm not that familiar with macros now

[olive wraith]

Bugged tooltip

[olive wraith]

Not that I’m aware of

You could do at player I guess

[wheat oyster]

genuinely seems like bloodthirst is only cast if you're out of RB stacks

christ

[upbeat plume]

in ST yeah

you still cast it in aoe for a better chance to proc reap the storm

I think archi mentioned it but the RB proc from tier dosent cleave the chance to proc it but BT does

[modest condor]

correct

but even then bt doesnt take over until 6 targets

[wheat oyster]

so bloodcraze should be ignored for the most part or what the crit stack is called

[modest condor]

yep

you just take it because there's nothing better to take, you dont play around it

[wheat oyster]

That’s nuts

It’s such a 180 coming rotating from mop warrior to retail warrior

[modest condor]

hey man at least there are times where you press bt because you dont have a choice

in df s1 you could go a whole fight without ever pressing it

[wheat oyster]

I loooove my 1 button rotation

[modest condor]

i mean we had a 4 button rotation

bt just wasnt one of them

[wheat oyster]

Another question while im here actually, what procs enrage in blade storm? Is it crit

[modest condor]

bloodthirst from unhinged

[upbeat plume]

unhinged

[wheat oyster]

Ah

[upbeat plume]

and if you have the one talent they extend its duration as well

[wheat oyster]

Recklessness?

[upbeat plume]

nah enrage

[modest condor]

deft experience

[wheat oyster]

Ah yep

[upbeat plume]

thank you the name was escaping me

[hardy quiver]

Guys to let u know u can upgrade your fiber on your rashi .

[wheat oyster]

So when doing the brutal finish rb stacking prior to bladestorm, is the condition to just send the bladestorm with some form of enrage window up?

(Not on opener just in general rotation)

[modest condor]

you should be spamming rb after bladestorm, not before

since you cant guarantee an enrage refresh, better go in with a full enrage and then do the rbs afterwards

[wheat oyster]

Even just one rb before isnt worth?

[modest condor]

i mean you can do that, i personally just think it's better to stick with using bladestorm directly after a rampage for consistency

[wheat oyster]

and going back to the blood thirst 6 target prio, is that still the same for thane or does it get better value through thane

[modest condor]

with the new tierset bt just always has prio for thane

even on st

[olive wraith]

Thane and slayer are kind of opposites in that way

[wheat oyster]

yea so it's similar to s2 then at least

[upbeat plume]

I guess in a sense that changes up the rotation between the 2 hero talent specs lol

which is nice

[wheat oyster]

just the rotation on the wowhead doens't show that prio

so wanted to confirm

[upbeat plume]

I dont think those have been updated yet

I think those usually get updated raid week

[modest condor]

we dont have access to the new tierset yet so

[olive wraith]

Didn’t wowhead get updated?

[upbeat plume]

somethings yes

but not everything I Dont think

[wheat oyster]

i usually assumed the wowhead is tailored to the assumption that you have tier set, or at least has a checkbox for it

[dense fulcrum]

fury dodged the bullet

[olive wraith]

Avoidance 100%

[wheat oyster]

off the top of your head, is there a sheet of what hero spec is bis for bosses yet or just wait for raid to come out and check logs

[olive wraith]

Wait for raid

But most of it is slayer

[modest condor]

i would be very surprised if it isnt slayer for every boss

[upbeat plume]

slayers going to be tough to beat in raid

[dense fulcrum]

wait ye but most are slayer for every boss i guess...

[wheat oyster]

reap procs gonna be nuts

[dense fulcrum]

is there a fight similar to stix in term of add quantity?

[wheat oyster]

sweet, wasnt a huge fan of MT on stix anyways

[dense fulcrum]

i actually didnt check every fight

[olive wraith]

Not just reap

BS actually does damage now

[modest condor]

slayer's boss damage is a lot further ahead of thane than it was in season 2

[olive wraith]

And it works out to like 20-30 second cooldown or something

[modest condor]

well idk about a lot

[upbeat plume]

yeah that gap got spicy

[modest condor]

but it is definitely further ahead

[olive wraith]

Thane st is a lot better than s2 tbf

[wheat oyster]

the new fury colossus smash it seems

[olive wraith]

It’s just slayer tier is really strong

Eh not really

[wheat oyster]

i saw arms is 1:1 for fury for like one fight but the stat investment makes it a pain to switch between the 2 specs

which is fine because fuck juggernaut

[olive wraith]

Highly doubt this

[modest condor]

secondaries dont mean shit

if a fight favours one spec over the other you will play it even if you're fully geared for the other spec

[olive wraith]

Last I saw arms was like 400k behind fury

I guess if there was a ss boss maybe

Or a boss with a prolonged execute phase

[wheat oyster]

Mythic soulbinder, soul hunters (council from memory), and fractilus on heroic had arms 1:1 or ahead but fury's ahead on mythic frac from ptr sims

[wheat oyster]

really? i felt my damage as arms was severely behind when i just changed spec to arms without changing gears or gems

for s2 ^

[modest condor]

i mean as long as you're not like giga scuffed 0% crit 0% haste 0% mastery 100% vers, having "the wrong" secondaries is usually like 2-3% loss at most

[wheat oyster]

at the very least just getting crit fiber should suffice

[junior gale]

skill issue not a stat issue

[wheat oyster]

yea the main fight i was referring to was carnage but i was expected to kick toys because my range dps were dead 🤷‍♂️

ah well

[summer quail]

Fury stats for arms isn't bad. Arms stat for fury is a bit worse tho

[wheat oyster]

yea see i was arms prio for fury

so my arms damage was fine but fury struggled, my RL at the time told me to just invest in fury

[eager pewter]

So what's the best way to level anymore? Just coming back after a year

[brittle crow]

fury nerfs hit

[brittle crow]

i have the method™ if you want it

its degen tho

[olive wraith]

Just spam dungeons

[brittle crow]

they asked for THE BEST

im willing to provide

dungeon spamming is mid

[wheat oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/say-it-two-face-dark-knight-batman-harvey-dent-gif-14855856

[brittle crow]

https://www.harldan.com/guides.html

feast

[silk wharf]

Hey, curious if anyone knows if you can use alts to clear the hardmode and pull in mains for a "deathless" last boss for the mythic loot?

[brittle crow]

lockout

ur locked to the group u go in with

[wheat oyster]

ah i remember this guy

im pre sure i used to follow harldan guides yonks ago

[brittle crow]

hes still the goat

he makes good alt gearing guides too

[wheat oyster]

where are they? i'm juggling if i make a last minute switch

[brittle crow]

well rn the best answer is just do 11.2 campaign

u need to do it anyway and it gives catchup gear

and none of the world content gives updated gear yet

[dusky moon]

I updated it ASAP

[echo rapids]

If you have a new alt you can go to the renoun vendors and get a ton of crests and valorstones to make a bunch of 675 gear

[dense fulcrum]

ok guys one question cuz i seem to not understand the timing, i started in s2 playing so i did not played during s1 and is first time im doin ara kara...what is the exactly way to ignore the mechanic of last boss with leap precisely? because i got soaked back everytime i try to jump away

[fiery tide]

towards the end of the cast the boss will hard suck everyone in, then you have ~2 sec to leap out

[dense fulcrum]

eh i cant understand the timing i might research a video maybe if i can find about a warrior let me see

because i try towards the end but she pull me back...in m0 i dont die but in m+ is prob a oneshot? or near death for sure

[storm birch]

Do it with 1 sec left on the cast bar

[fiery tide]

tldr, leap when the cast is less then 2 sec left

[storm birch]

Work 8/8 times for me

[storm birch]

It also reduces your damage done by a ton so even if you don’t die it’s a major loss. It’s a change they made in recent tuning

I dm you an example

[dense fulcrum]

if you dont leap correctly or u get dmg reduction anyway?

ok thanks ahah

[storm birch]

Sure thing 🫡

Nono you only get that damage done reduced if you get hit. Leaping will avoid that. But tbh in any key above like entry level keys I’m thinking it’s prolly a one shot anyway. Unless you were to stack all defensives.

I was never able to do the leap in S1 so I stopped trying but I think they made it more forgiving. As of rn you can very consistently leap it at 1 second

At least as consistently as 8/8 times for me. Not the biggest sample size so maybe others can share their experience

[cold blaze]

Hi! How much worse is the slayer in keys?

[south kayak]

I know it’s not done but the fact they nerfed the set only for prot gives me a tiny hope

[south kayak]

With tier set, thane is better but I don’t think slayer is bad

[storm birch]

Seems to be playable not optimal. Don’t have a % for you though sorry

[storm birch]

I was thinking this too. As I was reading the notes my mood changed mid sentence. I was like ahh here’s a thunder blast nerf and then saw for prot and was like oooooooo

(I know it was ionizing but just what my brain was computing)

[cold blaze]

don't want clap 🙁

[storm birch]

Slayer felt very fun in PTR but you can notice the dmg difference. That said, the boss damage is lit !

[radiant plank]

Crzy boss dam

[junior gale]

Quick now show them Colossus m+ boss dmg

[edgy widget]

tbf that is an 11% difference

[radiant plank]

horror

[south kayak]

Cooked

[buoyant salmon]

looks good

[olive wraith]

Jesus fuck

Poor arms

[junior gale]

Arms is fine don't worry doesn't need any buffs you saw it here in the notes today were balanced

[storm birch]

Oh there’s the %

[edgy widget]

don't worry, it'll get +3% in three weeks after the race is over

and DK/Lock might come down 2%

[junior gale]

+3

[olive wraith]

Slam +20%

[junior gale]

This is a good thing I swear. Fury hit a low point last season in m+ and now arms is hitting a massive low this season. That means we must be in line for a rework next expansion right

[radiant plank]

Monkeys paw

"We would rather you not play Arms"

[junior gale]

It was all Archi's grand design to make fury the only DPS warrior spec

[sour frigate]

This season prot will be the only dps warrior

[olive wraith]

I approve

If I could only play fury that would be great

[south kayak]

I see there’s been some drama regarding the deathless Tazavesh thing

[brittle crow]

u lied to me larias

u never said u needed darkmoon buff for the pinnacle cache

😭

[olive wraith]

Ya I don’t understand the hate on the hard mode

[south kayak]

Sounds like casuals complaining they can’t get free myth

It does seem iffy though

[olive wraith]

It’s high risk high rewards

(For pugs)

[south kayak]

You can only try once a week

And if you fail you aren’t eligible for another

[olive wraith]

For a group it should definitely be pretty consistent

[south kayak]

Yeah but that’s the issue tbh

Everyone at max level should get this easily

If you don’t have a group or aren’t good you’re cooked

[olive wraith]

It’s an overall good thing though

Key players get a shot at another mythic

[south kayak]

Reddit doesn’t seem to think so but then again it’s Reddit

[olive wraith]

Bitching about an extra drop is wild to me

[brittle crow]

reddit moment

[olive wraith]

I get it’s not gonna be accessible for everyone

But neither is mythic raid

[south kayak]

They’re bitching about about how punishing it is

Ifyou’re in a group with someone and they died

All your effort is gone because of someone else

[olive wraith]

You still get hero gear if you fail

[south kayak]

You do?

[olive wraith]

Is it maybe gonna be more difficult than it should be? Sure. But at the end of the day it’s what all dungeon only people want. A chance at more than 1 mythic per week

Yes

[south kayak]

I assume this isn’t live right now?

[olive wraith]

It drops hero gear and counts as a +10 for vault

[south kayak]

Cool

[olive wraith]

Hard mode opens next week

[south kayak]

Ok

How do you get hero gear if you fail

By finishing it?

[olive wraith]

Pretty sure

I’d have to reread the post

[storm birch]

I love the hard mode thing. Just wish you had 5 lives (one per person) and you lose after 5 deaths (or a wipe) could help remove one-off silly deaths like freeze framing or dc’ing that would normally just be a quick Brez scenario

Aside from that i love the challenging aspect !

[olive wraith]

I think 5 is too much tbh

[storm birch]

Well it would just be equivalent to a wipe

[brittle crow]

5 is free

[storm birch]

Which id assume a boss fight is the most dangerous part of the encounter right?

[olive wraith]

Like in an average 10 pug you might get 5 deaths

[storm birch]

Cause you can inch through the dungeon pulling 3 mobs at a time lol

Not week 1

[olive wraith]

Ya boss fights have added mechanics

Oh ya totally not week 1

[storm birch]

Yea the added mechanics seem cool. I feel like 1 death killing the whole thing trivializes added utility such as brez

[south kayak]

Isn’t this gonna be way easier eventually with more gear

[olive wraith]

Ya it should be

[storm birch]

But I suppose it’s called a deathless run for a reason haha

I’m just already picturing myself getting into a solid group and getting to so’Leah with no deaths and then my dumbass game freezes cause my pc is meat and I ruin it for everyone

I just know it’s gonna happen.

[wheat oyster]

Can i get link pls

[olive wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/link-heavy-breathing-breathing-zelda-legend-of-zelda-gif-18994699

[radiant plank]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10g479vXesC382k68gw4akUKeuGUodbDho0yhKK6Eh0w/edit?gid=1035028190#gid=1035028190

[surreal token]

What does 'no caps' mean for the M+ ST section

[rich dagger]

Hi everyone! Trying to learn fury, can someone help please.

As I see it - avatar is always in sync with roar/spear and recklessness is in sync with ravager. Do we send avatar/roar as soon as it's off cd? Or do we always wait to sync avatar with next recklessness?

[fading sky]

Zug

In gen send shit is the simple answer

But as all things depends

Common sense is always valuable

[rich dagger]

well yeah I mean if a pack has 2 mobs with 1% I wouldn't send it, just in general is therea strict rule about waiting

but i guess you already answered

thanks!

[olive wraith]

Avatar gives us rek. And rek gives us av

[rich dagger]

I don't think that answers what I'm asking

[olive wraith]

You asked if you should hold avatar for rek

[rich dagger]

yes

because they are pressed together

[olive wraith]

It’s better to put rek on cooldown because anger management

They’ll desync after first use

[rich dagger]

the question is more about avatar, do you wait until reck comes back

[radiant plank]

no capstones other than avatar

[olive wraith]

Pressing avatar gives us reckless

There’s no need to hold

[rich dagger]

ok thanks

[frank vault]

In fact it'd be worse to hold, because you'd A) lose time on Anger Management, B) double stack Reck buffs for no benefit.

[rich dagger]

their duration stacks, no?

[olive wraith]

It does

But let’s say you use avatar on opener.

And then next time you use it you hold it until 2 mins in

That’s 30s of cooldown you’re essentially wasting

[rich dagger]

got it

the same goes for roar/spear/ravager yes? just send it

[frank vault]

I think it only stacks duration up to a certain amount. You'd lose a bit, IIRC. Not 100%

[olive wraith]

Roar/spear will match with avatar

Rav matches with rek

[rich dagger]

ok thanks

[olive wraith]

Nah you get the full 28sec

[frank vault]

Oh, nice.

[surreal token]

interesting

Has anyone faced this issue before?
My @cursor ravager macro won't cast when I'm mousing over a target

but if i just mouse over normal terrain, it will cast

[fading sky]

Nope

[verbal kindle]

AoE dps rotation got updated on wowhead, do we agree you wouldn’t thunder blast or Bloodthirst over rampage but rather try not to overcap rage?

[olive wraith]

As long as you’re enraged I’m pretty sure tb>>>>

[wheat oyster]

Not sure who to forward it to, sheet has the roar and no cap damage mixed up

also how come wrecking throw is picked even though it's only cast once or does the sim have patchwerk with a shield phase

[fading sky]

It fucks

[undone flower]

I woke up and saw the tuning, tbf I was pale when I saw brew was so long, but I’m relieved

[wheat oyster]

whack only thunderous roar is cast once in the sim as well

[radiant plank]

oops

Fixed

[wheat oyster]

how come in 5 a minute sim thunderous roar's only cast twice for ST. mind my shit gear https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1AXN7NzvpRF3kbfNFpwfnK

[radiant plank]

cuz its a bad button

you only press it as a filler above slam and wrecking throw

[wheat oyster]

christ

[radiant plank]

Yeah

also thats why we talent wrecking throw

[wheat oyster]

what have they done to warrior

[radiant plank]

your filler prio is roar>wrecking>slam/ww

[eternal sundial]

real @gleaming siren ???

[wheat oyster]

and it seems WW just does more damage in ST too?

or are the tooltips wrong

[gleaming siren]

I have 2 games running rn and that is not one of them

[eternal sundial]

itdentity theft

[fiery tide]

so t-roar is so cooked its not even used in the opener?

[eternal sundial]

no

[fiery tide]

so why even take roar over spear ever?

[radiant plank]

Because spear is equally as useless on Slayer

as Thane you take spear 100% of time tho

[undone flower]

Have a dmg up button for your flat chest profile, is not very useful

Unless you gamble on 5 TB in a row

[fiery harbor]

for some reason i was given this quest again a couple weeks ago despite me having resil 14 for months. i wonder if i can turn it in next week and benefit from it lol

[agile token]

Stupid question, the people that write the guides for Wowhead, Icy-Veins and Maxroll, why do they all say smth else?

[undone flower]

Bc they are not the same person I would guess

[wheat oyster]

icyveins and wowhead is by same person

[undone flower]

Yes but maxroll is the one with diff

[agile token]

So, who is the most trustworthy? :p

[wheat oyster]

are you a pink parser?

[undone flower]

They all try to convey to general audience what the apl says without being too nerdy

[agile token]

Used to be blue/orange

[wheat oyster]

you mean blue purple?

[agile token]

Sometimes blue, sometimes purple

[wheat oyster]

regardless, wowhead hasn't been finalised for 11.2 yet, your best bet would be to read the apl sims and logs for raids when they come out and see what the playstyle is from there, but otherwise wowhead for the most part is reliable

[undone flower]

What is the difference between wowhead one and maxroll ? I’m on my phone i can’t check

[wheat oyster]

the only noticeable difference is that TR still has high prio on wowhead

but what it seems like, TR will be worth pressing on CD on 2+ targets or at least saved for 2nd target that will have TR run its full duration

[undone flower]

It is a filler on ST on the wowhead rotation

[wheat oyster]

@radiant plank could you confirm? the ptr sim doesn't show that for some reason

[undone flower]

I hate phone wowhead

[wheat oyster]

might be because of this part

that he's getting confused

tbf it is a lot of information for an ST rotation when an AoE rotation is also provided underneath

[undone flower]

Yes if you saw someone wrote a wowhead article it is easy to miss something you want to delete

[undone flower]

That roar is not in the apl, it is just writing error

https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/blob/thewarwithin/ActionPriorityLists/default/warrior_fury.simc

[white relic]

revvez in his stream said, that roar is not a good button to press with the new set.

[undone flower]

Yes, that’s why it is a filler

It is under BT, a filler for slayer ST

[slate sun]

Do you exclusively play spear in thane tho?

[undone flower]

You choose

[wheat oyster]

walhe earlier said spear 100% of time but i'm assuming you're picking that in M+ or a stix equivalent fight

the thane ST (if you're curious) has it running roar

[undone flower]

Yes if you follow the sim spear is above roar

But they are close, that’s what I mean on : you can choose

[fading sky]

Spear

[radiant plank]

Lov me thane spear

[fading sky]

Agreed spear and xlap

[honest trail]

Hello guys, I just noticed there might be a bug. When using Rampage at 5 Slaughtering Strikes, the buff is not always consumed

Anyone noticed that?

[heavy galleon]

no one care about arms, fury is so much fun

[honest trail]

Am I missing something?

Ok it was just on this mob where the hitbox is stupidly bugged I think 🤣

[south kayak]

what is that ui

[honest trail]

Guild Wars 2 UI

[south kayak]

oh okay

[plush bluff]

in the wowhead guide it says bloodthirst is higher than rampage, wouldnt I just want to always hit rampage on cd to take advantage of anger managment?

why would i hit bloodthirst if Im almost capped on rage

[honest trail]

Looks like this is Thane rotation

[plush bluff]

yes

[honest trail]

& BT gives Thunder Clap procs

[south kayak]

Yes, that is the thane rotation

[south kayak]

being almost capped on rage and hitting BT is not a big deal

[plush bluff]

but i just dont understand the logic, if anger management is based on spending rage, wouldnt it be more beneficial to burn rage to reduce cd of cooldowns

[south kayak]

You're going to pretty much press rampage almost always when it lights up because BT has a CD

[south kayak]

Those CDs aren't that impactful

as getting more thunder blast procs

[honest trail]

Just maths, big cds aren't that big of a deal compared to the rest of the dps

[frigid zealot]

Blast procs is the bread and butter of thane ST

[drowsy sage]

does this prot nerf affect fury too?

[honest trail]

& also, if you pressing Rampage too often, you might have 0 reset & lose Enrage buff

Which is a big deal

[frigid zealot]

it makes up a huge chunk of the damage with ionizing strikes

[south kayak]

Literally says it doesn't

and a 30% nerf to ionizing strikes is barely anything anyhow

[worn yoke]

am i wrong in feeling like since they fixed the seismic reverb, and the meat cleaver buffs, slayer is feeling stronger in dungeons until we get the new 4piece...

[frigid zealot]

was like 4.1m to 3.85m or something

[south kayak]

Most likely

[frigid zealot]

tier still strong

[plush bluff]

so just to be clear, trying to fish for thunder blast procs is more beneficial than optimizing anger management

[south kayak]

They'll have to nerf more than 30% for prot

[frigid zealot]

yep

[honest trail]

100%

[frigid zealot]

its more inline with the 2nd preforming tank

[honest trail]

Clap is so much dmg

[frigid zealot]

still very powerful though

[south kayak]

Yes but at the same time BT is not like RB that you can spam it

it has a CD

[plush bluff]

do you assume that we have new 4 set vs right now or in general

[south kayak]

This is when we have 4p

not rn

[worn yoke]

it's still rampage > BT > RB though, so i really dont think it will really affect AM timings

[south kayak]

rn you just play the exact same way you did in s2

[south kayak]

Blast*

[honest trail]

Sorry yes

[south kayak]

I'm just memeing

clap and blast is the same thing basically

[worn yoke]

if anything AM will play better than before because tblast generates a lot of rage, moving us towards our next rampage potentially faster on average

[south kayak]

How much rage does a TB generate

[verbal kindle]

AoE dps rotation got updated on wowhead, do we agree you wouldn’t thunder blast or Bloodthirst over rampage but rather try not to overcap rage?

[frigid zealot]

going to assume that is suppose to maybe be spear

same time that would be too low on list

[south kayak]

so a TB generates 13 rage

Isn't that the same as raging blow

[worn yoke]

i believe TB generates 20 rage? but it also guarnatees 2?) lightning strikes as well as the 25% chance for a lightning striek on additional targets

[south kayak]

It guarantees a lightning strike

which generates 3 rage from wowhead tooltip

If wowhead tooltips are correct, then TC generates 8 rage and TB generates 2 more

so that's 10+3 from LS

[brittle crow]

flat is good...............

[thick fossil]

Sure would be cool if we had one of them strong signature abilities.

[undone flower]

one day

but now

[south kayak]

Would be nice if Reck was similar to wings

[thick fossil]

🇷 🇮 🇵

[south kayak]

Avatar should be deleted and 20% damage baked into reck

It's a buff because it should work with AM

It's an issue for RA though

[undone flower]

tbf i thought more of RA being a breath of sindragosa

[south kayak]

can just be buffed I guess

[undone flower]

RA : you are enraged until you have no rage etc

[south kayak]

What if RA was like Breath

The more rage you use during Reck, the more damage you do

[undone flower]

but since i saw they deleted breath, i put my idea to the closet

[south kayak]

I mean it's basically the same as this one but different

this one is more KM uses = bigger breath

my idea is more rage used during Reck = more damage

like a damage ramp

it also proritizes using rampage as soon as possible

[undone flower]

in my mind it is : you still have crushing and bloodbath, you lose rage over time, you don't press rampage until you are out of reck RA

[remote bobcat]

this is still so fkn good

[south kayak]

fuck BB and CB

Discount metamorphosis

[undone flower]

i like gameplay changing CDs, what can i tell

the S1 gameplay builders > rampage is not inherently bad

in my mind reckless abandon is a cheap metamorphosis, but a build rage one, AM already likes you pressing rampage

[remote bobcat]

cb -- bb -- filler if needed -- rampage -- repeat

Ok

gaming

obviously MFE minmaxing existed

but yk

[undone flower]

the "issue" was you pressed CB and BB at max rage, not that you pressed them over rampage

[remote bobcat]

That's kind of the same thing in a way

almost

its a fine line ur dancing on

[undone flower]

yes but you can have other sources of rage loss, bc game dev is god

[wind canopy]

crazy how much better roar feels than spear

maybe im an idiot tbh

[remote bobcat]

this is true

[undone flower]

you can create something that drains rage out of thin air, by your imagination

and since it is CB and BB creating this gameplay, it is easy to think it would be the RA capstone or RA itself

[remote bobcat]

nah could just be execute using up rage instead of generating it

Ok

[undone flower]

it is an idea, you need to reconciliate with enrage tho

[south kayak]

RA should just buff rampage in a way

[fading sky]

Thank god they nerfed

Prot

Fury Warrior m+ dream still lives

[south kayak]

idk if that was enough

[minor void]

is it me or do gushing wound lower dmg then before?

[south kayak]

It looks that way because they keep buffing the rotational abilities and never buff CSHB

[minor void]

ye. funny

[fiery kraken]

whats the play if like 80 rage, enraged and 2 stacks of raging blow? rampage or rb?

[radiant plank]

rb

[dark saffron]

Why is priory ring considered our bis? o_O Doesn't even have haste/mast

[fiery kraken]

ty

[south kayak]

Secondary stats have diminishing returns. At this point in the expansion, haste and mastery are on DR so you prefer other stats like versatility or crit

[bitter palm]

secondaries dont matter bis gear doesnt matter

run sims and see what gear u want

[rotund ginkgo]

Mommy

[south kayak]

Who is that

[smoky vale]

looks like yoroichi

[earnest canyon]

Big Sharon from Karate Pikunikkupātī

[flat river]

mommy

[digital mauve]

any advice for agatha mage tower? At 55~ish % when she have the bubble + the two healig imp + the five fireball imp = wipe

[whole remnant]

Agartha

[dark saffron]

tysm ^^

[dark saffron]

I am being asked to fill in forms of what gear i want etc and i looked online and found that so ye thats why i was asking tysm ^^

[north hornet]

Why does the fury warrior always makes so much damage? Is he crazy.

[graceful elk]

Anyone know why critcakes is running slayer in M+ instead of MT??

[bitter palm]

m0 u mean

and its cause its m0

doesnt matter what u play

[bitter palm]

yeah the thing with warriors is that we are into all stats pretty mcuh

[remote bobcat]

because thane isnt good without the new tier set

Ok

[bitter palm]

so its not uncommon

to go vers or some other stat

which makes finding bis gear much harder

[bitter palm]

u know that 2h from eco dome

that sheathes on waist

did they change it or what

its on the back for me

now

[remote bobcat]

i dont know that no

im sry

coner i have sinned

i didnt ptr test

the dungeons

[bitter palm]

i got two from 1 dungeon

xd

they sheathed on the back

yesterday

but not today

wtf blizz

game restart incoming

[remote bobcat]

why is ur offhand