Wait until you're in combat, then press reck first before charge/ava
#fury
charred estuary
are we slayering in M+ until 4pc? or is it still just thane
smoky vale
do banezi
winter shoal
are we slayering in M+ until 4pc? or is it still just thane
Probably but you can sim
zinc python
ah okay im using avatar and then reck like a millisecond later
olive wraith
are we slayering in M+ until 4pc? or is it still just thane
Either or
Both are fine
smoky vale
do banezi tech
carmine hawk
This normal that we do less than tank damage in huge pulls right? Totally fine?
winter shoal
Sounds like a skill issue to me
maiden hearth
i dont
winter shoal
Or a massive gear diff
silk wharf
ah okay im using avatar and then reck like a millisecond later
That's your problem, you need to use Reck first.
restive peak
Yeah if you’re not up there this week you’re doing something wrong
woven valley
They still do like 9 mil aoe without trying
low folio
i havnt lost to a tank. bdk was the closest so far i think in terms of doing big aoe for me
silk wharf
ah okay im using avatar and then reck like a millisecond later
Avatar generates 20 rage you want doubled by recklessness.
zinc python
This normal that we do less than tank damage in huge pulls right? Totally fine?
we dont do a whole lot in huge pulls do to the 5 target cleave cap on most of our abilities but you should still be doing more than tank
due*
zinc python
Avatar generates 20 rage you want doubled by recklessness.
ah yea thank you, it was right there. i just never thought of it
winter shoal
we dont do a whole lot in huge pulls do to the 5 target cleave cap on most of ou...
I beat a devoker and balance druid in HoA last night with reasonably big pulls /shrug
Unironically play the funkykitty build this week
Shit cooks in m0
smoky vale
I beat a devoker and balance druid in HoA last night with reasonably big pulls /...
in my guild m0s we were playign 2 fdk fury the fury was just getting dumpstered when we had cds
olive wraith
Fury has cds? 
restive peak
Yeah BT has a CD bro
olive wraith
smoky vale
Me when burst classes burst during their cds
more so we were pulling 20 mobs at once
restive peak
Started playing around w my fdk, it’s actually super fun when the burst hits
But I think it’s going to be this tiers victim of over nerfing in 2-3 weeks
carmine hawk
My hands are being drawn to press play on ret send help
winter shoal
Play what you want friend
restive peak
Ret feels too faceroll, I don’t even know how to explain it, it just feels lazy
winter shoal
Why pay money to play a class you don't enjoy
fast quest
Ret is way more enjoyable than fury. Fury is literally facerolling the light-up buttons
"oh let me macro all of my 5 cds into one button, then roll my face on the light ups"
that's fury.
restive peak
Yeah I said I don’t know how to explain it, I’m aware, tbh all classes play quite similarly nowadays
carmine hawk
I enjoy both they are both made for vibing but damn those numbers
unborn delta
yea
fast quest
But aren't we .. less than mid?
unborn delta
we have more st
fast quest
And arms is like... dead last
unborn delta
just struggle with al lthe damage amp
restive peak
We’re above ret right now besides the damage portion of the raid
Arms is dead, yeah
Like shotgunned point blank level dead
fast quest
interesting about being above ret
winter shoal
And arms is like... dead last
Arms is down bad but somehow still not last
unborn delta
and every raid has 8 rets in it
olive wraith
Ret is way more enjoyable than fury. Fury is literally facerolling the light-up ...
Isn’t that also ret
carmine hawk
Btw when playin with thane i'm getting moments when i dont have anything to press just want to confirm that's it skill issue or should i put whirlwind/slam back on bar?
winter shoal
It'll happen sometimes but should be pretty rare, yeah you'd fill with ww in those cases
strong ridge
Btw when playin with thane i'm getting moments when i dont have anything to pres...
i rather wait a second than putting slam back
winter shoal
But honestly if you just sit there for a second, you'll do almost the same damage
strong ridge
or ww
junior oyster
Isn’t that also ret
Exactly my thought. In fact that seems to describe ret even better than it describes fury
fast quest
They play the same, tbh
Fury just pretends it's more nuanced because whirlwind isn't a spender and divine storm is
but they way fury macros its CD's, it's just wings all over again, then they both chase their lightup abilities
junior oyster
I just fine fury way more fun
shrug
olive wraith
Fury just pretends it's more nuanced because whirlwind isn't a spender and divin...
Meat cleaver is the tiniest bit more nuanced than press divine storm when I can
fast quest
I agree, and it makes it more fun
I do think that's why people think ret is smoother/calmer though. They're not really juggling anything, and their spell animations look incredible
fast quest
i was talking about this with a friend, why can't a warrior sunder the earth like Cairn Bloodhoof in Wc3? We kind of have the spinning counter-attack with mini bladestorms as Arms, and bladestorm also loooks awesome, but we really need new animations
junior oyster
Ret's just flashy yellow lights. I like warrior because it ISNT a goofy lightshow
its a mortal, whacking impossible monsters with just their weapons lol
olive wraith
I mean we make sonic booms
junior oyster
I mean, we're not completely without some ham lol
earnest canyon
I mean we make sonic booms
zinc python
should we be using opportunist over fierce followthrough even before we get 4 pc?
winter shoal
Sim question but probably FF
storm birch
3 12 hour shifts standing between me and the rest of my life (m+ and raid release)
winter shoal
Quit your job 
zinc python
with opportunist it almost feels like you can just take BT off your bars lol
earnest canyon
What's hsr?
storm birch
Quit your job <:yep:703420923625078804>
I’ll submit my resignation right now say I won’t
winter shoal
with opportunist it almost feels like you can just take BT off your bars lol
IIRC Sarri ran a sim that just didn't ever cast BT and it was like -2%
pulsar quest
i was talking about this with a friend, why can't a warrior sunder the earth lik...
Like demolish should do
fast quest
yea
pulsar quest
Been saying for months demolish should crack open the ground and leave an aoe pool
Based as hell
earnest canyon
Wjat
sullen dove
gacha paradise
earnest canyon
Noooo
dapper goblet
sullen dove
olive wraith
Been saying for months demolish should crack open the ground and leave an aoe po...
Until tank moves mob
plush zephyr
Ret is way more enjoyable than fury. Fury is literally facerolling the light-up ...
Pink class is.... wack
high stone
Can't open Consumables on Fury Warrior page 
"400 Bad Request, Request Header Or Cookie Too Large"
Anyway, what gems should we look at?
winter shoal
Can't open Consumables on Fury Warrior page <:sadge:820202363359854633> "400 Ba...
@frigid zealot you are not alone holy
Sim question tho
oblique thistle
Can't open Consumables on Fury Warrior page <:sadge:820202363359854633> "400 Ba...
Dont blindly follow the guide -- the stat distribution on your gear is almost certianly wildly different and therefor what gems you need will differ as a result
high stone
I do sim, can't just choose 16 gems to sim 😛
plush zephyr
Well, it's not 16 (because we really only run like 4) and it's not too difficult or time consuming, and it's worth it if you really are trying to get the most of out of your dam.
winter shoal
Realistically any gear you have this week is getting replaced within the next weeek anyways so like don't stress about it
plush zephyr
valorstones arent transferable right now?
oblique thistle
correct
plush zephyr
thick fossil
@restive peak
Great success, won't have to tank. Raid lead is not worried about tuning. He was also expecting prot to get shot.
plush zephyr
kyveza just nuuuuuuked me in the new delve
Ig she shows up like underpin does randomly
covert blaze
kyveza just nuuuuuuked me in the new delve
look at the phantoms when they are about to dash to you
if you are not l ooking at them
you get shit on
plush zephyr
nah like I was barely paying attention afk petting the dog and she showed up
covert blaze
plush zephyr
I was like tffff and by the time I got my bearings I was dead af
it was kinda hot im not gonna lie
sullen tendon
why are no quest markers showing up on karesh
covert blaze
try relogging
sullen tendon
ive been doing that
covert blaze
rip
plush zephyr
why are no quest markers showing up on karesh
mine aren't showing up
but I did the quests 
sorry yeah idk lmao
summer quail
a few of the sidequests do not show on map. most do
young swan
ive been doing that
whats your char name
haughty token
do we go mastery for reshi wraps
young swan
vers is very popular
digital mauve
how's fury in m+ and raid right now?
young swan
well the raid isnt out
and neither is m+
but its looking good for m+
raid remains to be seen
chilly fractal
Out tier set to tier set gain is certainly up there because of how shit our current one is
plush zephyr
having two 691 weaps already feeeeeels niiiice
summer quail
it's better than the one we had in s2?
ofcourse it is. s2 tierset is so bad
chilly fractal
having two 691 weaps already feeeeeels niiiice
684 Best in slots in my offhand is out simming 691s for me
digital mauve
well it's reassuring, maybe I wont have to go reroll ret
olive wraith
well it's reassuring, maybe I wont have to go reroll ret
Fury is better than ret
plush zephyr
100%
young swan
well it's reassuring, maybe I wont have to go reroll ret
ret is worse than fury
by a lot
digital mauve
well most of the tier list out there say differently
young swan
tierlists btw
summer quail
if you do not let tierlists dictate literally everything in your life are you really living?
plush zephyr
Still waiting on indeed to make a tierlist so I can get a job
chilly fractal
I’m still waiting on a tier list of tier lists so I know what tier list to use
junior oyster
But i'm still on the tier list of what platforms on which to view the tier list tier list
plush zephyr
car - tier list, shoes - tier list, when to shower - tier list
limber oar
well most of the tier list out there say differently
low iq take, ret is just perfect for you
olive wraith
well most of the tier list out there say differently
We shall see how the season plays out then
spare steppe
Tier lists are worthless information
junior gale
^
junior gale
because ppl dont like to think and just wanna see da list
if at top of list good if bottom bad
no thinky
junior oyster
even if warrior is 'butt-tier', a warrior in it for the love of the unga bunga will devastate the average meta-chasing goober, no?
spare steppe
Now some parts of a list are relevant like why a spec might not be strong but so many tier lists aren’t critical thinking
young swan
even if warrior is 'butt-tier', a warrior in it for the love of the unga bunga w...
depends on the meta
last season, probably not
this season, probably
spare steppe
I dunno arms is pretty dead
plush zephyr
very but wouldn't take much for it to be good
plush zephyr
I wanna play arms soooo bad this season
junior gale
then play it
spare steppe
And it need a brez that involves yelling at someone until they’re alive
plush zephyr
then play it
I am
plush zephyr
bout to do halls for the 3rd time
plush zephyr
idk this party is just doing it to finish out vault
olive wraith
Ya I need to do 2 more
plush zephyr
eco was suuuuper fast
chilly fractal
I may try over the weekend
sour tundra
is there anyway we can get easy season 2 gear for Catalyst?
olive wraith
is there anyway we can get easy season 2 gear for Catalyst?
Undermine activities maybe?
languid swan
cleave is a bit too strong no? maybe should nerf to 3%?
olive wraith
smoky vale
alright we did it for real
when are they taking away the achievement
wheat lantern
i never usually cared for min maxing upgrades with champion gear , should i just wait to upgrade or will i upgrade my new 681 wep
winter shoal
Sim question'
wheat lantern
sim can do that ?
winter shoal
If you do upgrade it, you should only use carved crests
Well you might not want to use it at all
wheat lantern
yeah M+ out tuesday anyways
winter shoal
I'm fairly sure a 691 weapon would be worse than 684 BIS + 681 ascension weap
Sim would tell you though
wheat lantern
gonna run it , ty ty
zinc python
Do we not take vicious contempt anymore?
young swan
only for slayer and specifically with the new tierset
wild mica
we still need to track bloodthirst crit dont we?
someone wake me up when they delete bloodcraze
wild mica
having to use a weakaura to track specific crit % on one ability is dogshit design
zinc python
we still need to track bloodthirst crit dont we?
It seems like when we get tier bloodthirst just becomes filler
zinc python
only for slayer and specifically with the new tierset
I should say, do we not take viscious contempt for ST anymore?
young swan
I should say, do we not take viscious contempt for ST anymore?
only with the new tierset
zinc python
thanks, does anyone have a build for pre tier set ST fury? i deleted mine and all the guides assume you have tier set now i think
wise mauve
Watching and reading a couple of guides on mountain fury. Some say Bloodthirst is prio and should be used on cooldown while others say you should only use it when its at like 85% crit chance. Is it dependent on gear or teir set which one?
zinc python
Watching and reading a couple of guides on mountain fury. Some say Bloodthirst i...
i believe its prio over RB always in mountain thane
because it triggers your thunder blast
olive wraith
Watching and reading a couple of guides on mountain fury. Some say Bloodthirst i...
You might be combining both hero trees prio. Thane def likes to press bt a lot. Slayer has a really low prio for bt
zinc python
the bloodthirst crit tracker seems to matter only in slayer until we get tier. then you just basically never press it unless youre out of everything else
whats crazy is we still have all these talents that buff bloodthirst even at that point
modest talon
so m+ is still mountain thane?
olive wraith
whats crazy is we still have all these talents that buff bloodthirst even at tha...
No good alternative talents in the middle of the tree
olive wraith
so m+ is still mountain thane?
Yes. Although slayer is doing pretty good
sudden tusk
slayer will do pretty well until higher keys
thane with tierset is my prefered
because of its defensive value
slate sun
the bloodthirst crit tracker seems to matter only in slayer until we get tier. t...
Came here to clarify this. I wanted to know any changes to the BT WA in season 2, if it’s still 4 charges / 85% crit even with tier set in slayer. (Not including VC 35% interaction). Also same applies for the execute mfe WA? I read somewhere we want to press it on 2 stacks rather than 3 now.
sudden tusk
Came here to clarify this. I wanted to know any changes to the BT WA in season 2...
honestly i wouldnt even consider it at all once you gain new tier
we swap off feirce followthrough so the crit strings dont matter as much
and RB is just so strong that you will consume the crit eventually though bladestorm casts or running out of RB charges
jolly parrot
how long can we keep bestinlots on offhand equipped
i got 2x 691 weaps and still have to use it
slate sun
honestly i wouldnt even consider it at all once you gain new tier
Awesome thanks, any idea on if we’re still relying on 3x MfE charges or is it 2?
sudden tusk
Awesome thanks, any idea on if we’re still relying on 3x MfE charges or is it 2?
you will want to send Sudden Death almost the moment you get it
the way the tier set fuctions once you get 2 piece is you will essentially be shotgunning sudden deaths becuase after a short amount of combat you will be at 10 stacks of overwhelmed which guarentees a slayers strike every SD
so every SD you cast will basically be refunding a 33% of itself
and with additional SD procs alongside natural Slayers strike procs with our high haste there will be times where you have 130 Rage. and 2 stacks of SD just sitting there
Rampage will take prio in that situation but until you have actually played with it, it's very suprising how many executes you end up sending
slate sun
That’s very interesting, the maxroll guide still says 2x and wowhead says 3 still
Would be nice to just slam it as a prio
sudden tusk
p sure the math works out that 2 is optimal to send
but once you have 10 stacks of overwhelmed you will be guaranteed minimum 1 stack of MFE becuase it casts after your sudden death, so the likelyhood that you cast a SD with 2 MFE with how high haste we have is very high
ideally you would want to send it with 2 every time, but without a weakaura yelling at you every single time you should press the button i generally just tell people to hit it whenever they get a SD proc
since im pretty sure thats probably what the devs intended with having a proc thats powerful enough to use once you proc, as well as being suppored by their tier set making execute one of the primo buttons for slayer
other issue being that if you do wait for 3 stacks, you can lose MFE stacks mid execute cast becuase of its delay, also making your execute do less damage on average becuase of these 2 talents
junior gale
feels like fury can def get away with just sending
sudden tusk
with how haste heavy fury is + simply just losing damage if you overcap i just hard send
this gameplay style also just massivly accelerates the amount of bladestorms you get as well
so even though i dont even cast it, bloodthist does a considerable amount of damage becuase of unhinged
its actually a really fun playstyle especially when thane is basically the opposite
junior gale
yeah I liked the way mtn thane and slayer worked out this tier really emphasised the BT vs RB will be fun until it eventually gets boring because it will
slate sun
Thank you for the very detailed responses. It does seem a faster playstyle and gives execute its relevance again.
Does VC in slayer not change the need to press Bt anymore at all?
junior gale
no because you wont be taking VC
sudden tusk
Does VC in slayer not change the need to press Bt anymore at all?
if you run out of things to press then you will press it
but Sudden death/Raging Blow/Rampage will be your primary buttons
slate sun
no because you wont be taking VC
Not even in ST?
sudden tusk
no
becuase the tier set buffs raging blow directly, and it has no bloodthirst benefit for slayer it is just a filler in the rotation
we do still run Bloodcraze, but most of the reason why is becuase its a higher damaging node to take then Bloodborne
so the additional crit from it every now and then is just a bonus that we dont pay attention to
sour frigate
slate sun
Might be a dumb question but does VC not effect BTs through unhinged like bloodcraze does?
strong ridge
guys does anyone else think thunder blast looks like a big blue "?" ? 
junior gale
?
sudden tusk
Might be a dumb question but does VC not effect BTs through unhinged like bloodc...
VC effects all BTs so it would still work with the BTs from unhinged
but with swapping from Fierce Followthrough to Opportunist, on top of the tier set also only buffing RB, with no benefit to bloodthirst like our current tier set
its just not worth pressing most the time
our 4piece also gives us a 20% chance PER raging blow to cast a 150% value reap the storm further making RB do even more average damage per cast (with 10 stacks of overwhelmed)
so RB is just god king skovald of the slayer fury toolkit
anywho bedge
slate sun
Thanks man ❤️❤️ legend
gleaming siren
https://tenor.com/view/horse-sleep-sleeping-cozy-sleepy-gif-17365703115373028125
Do you honk-shoo or mimimi
silver shale
Hello, I've been recently doing some m0 and I was curious and I tested Slayer and Thane fury Warrior, and the weird thing is, I ran every dungeon twice and the final verdict for me was: Slayer fury did more DMG than Thane fury. Thoughts? 😅
wicked gazelle
Well mobs die in 4 seconds is probbaly why
in m+ thane will do alot more sustained
silver shale
Well mobs die in 4 seconds is probbaly why
It feels like I'm capped at 4m dps and I won't fall bellow that mark, only up and up as executes stack up
brittle crow
nobody told me ur supposed to have darkmoon buff up for the pinnacle cache
since when do they give rep
smoky vale
Do you honk-shoo or mimimi
do i go mimir
desert atlas
Watching and reading a couple of guides on mountain fury. Some say Bloodthirst i...
even in mountain thane, according to wowhead.. rampage is still higher prio than bloodthirst
undone flower
Hello, I've been recently doing some m0 and I was curious and I tested Slayer an...
Like said, it is due to the content, low health mobs = prefer burst damage profile (that’s why ret is good in low keys btw)
desert atlas
unless the wowhead guide isnt updated
junior gale
Like said, it is due to the content, low health mobs = prefer burst damage profi...
Not even that you can sim it as well but Slayer is just better than thane right now in all scenarios until you get tier.
undone flower
Yes maybe that too, with bs buff and reverb fix
junior gale
Yee thane just got tier tuning really
undone flower
I didn’t pay attention to my dps in those m0
slate sun
unless the wowhead guide isnt updated
For rotation I don’t think it is.
junior gale
Slayer it the way until tier but it's also m0s and early 1st week M+ so it's really a who cares play whats fun
undone flower
I won’t judge no tier fury and I won’t compare myself with pugs doing m0s
desert atlas
For rotation I don’t think it is.
what about icy veins
slate sun
Havnt checked icy veins but archi does both iirc, maxroll is updated
desert atlas
yea ok
maxroll says bloodthirst if less than 120 rage then rampage
while enrage is active
slate sun
For thane?
slate sun
Yep sounds right.
desert atlas
it doesn't say how vicious contempt changes tho
does bloodthirst go above rampage regardless of rage if vicious contempt is up?
tight roost
Depends on whether you are enraged
molten wing
Hello, I've been recently doing some m0 and I was curious and I tested Slayer an...
shit gets blown in M0s and the burst you get from Slayer is gonan make it look like it does more dmg , once you get your Tier Set + things start to live longer , Thane is gonna 
slate sun
it doesn't say how vicious contempt changes tho
Regardless you press it first if you have no blast charges.
(Have to be enraged)
compact current
Are we in for an arms or fury tier
surreal token
arms is dead brother
compact current
Fuck this man I hate fury
Please tell me it's slayer fury tho and not this thane crap
surreal token
Not sure
I'm looking at the wowhead recommended talents
this is based on S3 tier?
remote bobcat
no hack n slash yea thats thane with s3 tier set
that build isnt good rn
without tier
surreal token
what else changes?
remote bobcat
?
surreal token
is it only hack n slash that changes to 2/2 VC?
the other big change i see is running spear over roar
remote bobcat
yuh thats p much it
but then again
thane sucks this ID
cuz everything explodes
just play slayer fury
with odyns
surreal token
i meant for next week
remote bobcat
i mean
even then thane might be worse
not sure
im cranking with loboz build thats fo sure
but im weird fo that dont mind me
vapid spade
just play slayer fury
Do you have a build for that or is it just the alternative m+ build on wowhead? 🤔
remote bobcat
you can play the slayer alternate build from wowhead yea
It's solid
I mean it's m0 week, it rly doesnt matter much
but it cranks more than thane rn, thats for sure
vivid slate
What build we playing without tierset ?
remote bobcat
scroll up like 10 messages
vivid slate
Yeah but didnt he say that this is bad without tier or am i dumb ? 😄
smoky vale
any build you play this week works
remote bobcat
hi gio57
smoky vale
yea but thane feels like shit
amen
remote bobcat
play loboz build
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smoky vale
gn kronzo
remote bobcat
u headin off?
surreal token
weird, the double vc (no HNS) build is performing really well for me in sims
tight roost
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Link to wowhead talents for us on mobilr phones?
smoky vale
weird, the double vc (no HNS) build is performing really well for me in sims
its better until you get new tier
surreal token
yeah sry, i shouldve clarified, i'm simming 6target patchwerk for 1/1.5/2 mins
north sky
Ok so im a newe baby fury player
surreal token
when I sim hectic add cleave, it wants me to keep HNS & 2/2 VC, but drop UF node
north sky
Im seeing a lot of people macro Reck and Avatr, but why not Roar with no talents?
since all 90 seconds?
tight roost
it's dropping almost all RB related talents
So not spamming rb or still spamming with less dmg?
orchid portal
in this patch fury is better ?
surreal token
So not spamming rb or still spamming with less dmg?
no clue, ask kronzo or loboz himself
u can sim it and check the APL
molten wing
you are totally fine just using the usually M+ builds for both slayer/Thane right now
especially since close to nothing changed
and move to builds once you get the new tier
north sky
Also is there a visual for sudden death stacks?
remote bobcat
it's dropping almost all RB related talents
havoc was decently geared and fully enchanted too
molten wing
but its havoc
molten wing
fury
remote bobcat
bro im loboz build
molten wing
yeah you just blasts cds stuff dies before dh can do most of it probably 😄
remote bobcat
yea
undone flower
Dh changed that much ?
remote bobcat
thats kinda the point
molten wing
the opposite it didn't get anything from what i gather
undone flower
I remember I was fighting with DHs for rash adds
molten wing
maybe they are preparing for the 3rd spec
sour frigate
Dh changed that much ?
Havoc needs tunnel the ragefire
If smol stuff dead quick u deal negative
tight roost
bro im loboz build
So is loboz just regular slayer but smash OF on cd?
remote bobcat
So is loboz just regular slayer but smash OF on cd?
you click RB as filler
slate sun
you are totally fine just using the usually M+ builds for both slayer/Thane righ...
What would you play on next ID to spam 10+ keys with no s3 tier?
high sedge
yeah you just blasts cds stuff dies before dh can do most of it probably 😄
havoc is pretty frontloaded spec tho
vivid slate
Yeah this build deals good damage
tight roost
Which?
indigo arch
not having to worry about hack and slash target feels SO fucking good
I hate hack and slash
SO MUCH
err
not hack and slash
frenzy
nvm I need sleep
esp since its taken in the build
disregard
idk why I thought it didn't have frenzy
warm crag
revvez completed gearing his 8th warlock which underlines how dead warrior is
@compact siren @clever belfry @oblique trail @solemn plover @smoky vale @flat river @fickle bluff
clever belfry
good for him, finally playing a good class
compact siren
Revvez was prestacking on his mage in dornogal
flat river
<@167252773912444928> <@173741974493462528> <@102464908976730112> <@126061157508...
?
Why have i been summoned
compact siren
It’s something you should know
compact siren
Why does revvez have 16 evokers and 8 warlocks geared?
flat river
Who cares?
fickle bluff
It's so warrover
indigo arch
don't worry, when they inevitably nerf thane for prot they definitely won't kill fury too :)))))
solemn plover
<@167252773912444928> <@173741974493462528> <@102464908976730112> <@126061157508...
fukc
solemn plover
Who cares?
I care
light hedge
Why does revvez have 16 evokers and 8 warlocks geared?
That is a crazy number
carmine hawk
Why did thrall re-spec to warrior from shammy then
he's no longer shaman?
flat river
he's no longer shaman?
Not since legion
carmine hawk
damn
warm crag
p sure he got the elements back at some point
warm crag
Not since legion
and it was wod get it right woke liberal
sinful glen
Aye just got back from vacation and season break. Did we get buffed yet?
eternal sundial
revvez completed gearing his 8th warlock which underlines how dead warrior is
Rip rekful
weary sinew
Aye just got back from vacation and season break. Did we get buffed yet?
probably best to go back on vacation for a bit longer
sinful glen
weary sinew
<:sadge:820202363359854633>
least you arent arms
potent thicket
with slayer?
remote bobcat
with slayer?
loboz build yea
potent thicket
he's a goat?
flat river
and it was wod get it right woke liberal
Technically at the end of WoD/start of legion
flat river
No
remote bobcat
fungal folly is p fast with the right story
fading sky
but which story is it ?:D
flat river
Fungal folly is the easiest/fastest
radiant plank
Dread pit good t oo
fossil orbit
loboz build yea
With this build, do u send BT on cd or at 85% city?
remote bobcat
bt > exe
RB only as filler
BT main button
loboz build doesnt even run bloodcraze so u never get to 85% bt crit anyway
fossil orbit
Nice! Will try it out tonight! 😃👍🏻
fossil orbit
Ok
outer rover
its gonna fall off haaardddd by next week tho
Why? Because of new Set?
remote bobcat
Why? Because of new Set?
burst generally falls off with her hp pools in m+
we wont have full 4set by next week
its just the hp pool diff
eternal sundial
we wont have full 4set by next week
Revvez will inshallah
(idk if raid is open by then icl)
remote bobcat
prob like 7 or 8
eternal sundial
Fwiw limit>echo> method josh
remote bobcat
we have very high reliance on uptime
eternal sundial
My prediction
eternal sundial
we have very high reliance on uptime
Idk man tuning is one thing
remote bobcat
im down to see echo fall off a bit and method rise up a bit
eternal sundial
But the gameplay being the way it will be
eternal sundial
im down to see echo fall off a bit and method rise up a bit
Depends on the LAGET boys i think
Like 5 of those gamers went to echo
If they can properly replace the method ppl
remote bobcat
laget was that swedish guild right
eternal sundial
But man zaelia will be so op
Yea
They disbanded but like WR top 10 ish usually
Something rlly high idk exact number
flat river
oki
remote bobcat
you should never die to mechanical mistakes
flat river
thats the only way to die to kveza?
remote bobcat
the main thing is rotating health pots for the HoT
flat river
from the shadows
remote bobcat
and using spell reflect
I mean if u die to the clones then u just griefed no
or wdym
eternal sundial
[OK](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/707624436416774216.webp?size=64&name=OK)
Video with Audio
Ok
remote bobcat
what?
whole remnant
Video with Audio
earnest canyon
Where the music??
cloud shale
is range for whirlwlind cleave effect calculated around the player or target?
left perch
Fwiw limit>echo> method josh
liquid maximum
oblique trail
is range for whirlwlind cleave effect calculated around the player or target?
Around the player
smoky vale
revvez completed gearing his 8th warlock which underlines how dead warrior is
how many dks has he geared
clever path
I did all 0s yesterday and felt pretty bad, I really really really hope for midnight we see some rework/target capped increase fury and for arms as well
I do not wish to be capped anylonger RAHHHH
restive peak
Revvez geared like 10 warriors too, everyone bein weird lmao
clever path
Dude how cool it is that the 2 hand weapon from Echo Dome Aldani, goes in your waist and not on your back? Yesterday I looted it and first I thought it was a bug or smth, but isn’t , that’s is so cool
chilly fractal
Revvez geared like 10 warriors too, everyone bein weird lmao
And I don’t know about everyone else… but I geared 1… and that should be enough for everyone here if you ask me
hardy cargo
Revvez geared like 10 warriors too, everyone bein weird lmao
dan in method has 10 warriors, 4 dks, a hunter, and a rogue LMFAo
junior oyster
Doesn't mean it's not cool?
compact siren
20 warlocks and counting
22 now
clever path
Still cool regardless
Hope they do more of those
Wouldn’t be cool if they let you choose if you want your wep on your back or waist as a transmog opt?
restive peak
Yeah they prep their mains and then some of the OP shit to make splits easier, also because tuning will happen again Tuesday and they don’t know everything for sure yet
But Revvez will be on warrior because he’s the goat lol
coarse nest
Just being Revvez is +5%
imagine
cobalt relic
@limber oar send it g
limber oar
Look up revvez in twitch
night cedar
Hello guys. Maxroll guide says we go without Champions spear and with roar istead. I prefer with roar but why is it different?
storm rune
On that note, sims updated and reliable yet?
restive peak
They're very similar, roar is likely easier to just send and forget; sims are updated
night cedar
Okeey thanks
thick fossil
Roar is hit and forget. Spear you rub 2 brain cells together, try to hit 5+ enjoy crit buff. Pray for high roll Tblast procs.
night cedar
Roar is hit and forget. Spear you rub 2 brain cells together, try to hit 5+ enjo...
okey i will try both btw
Thanks!
So in theory, spear is better at 5+ targets?
thick fossil
Both kinda suck overall. It's not a very big difference without crazy high roll luck.
restive peak
Spear has the issue of being dependent on your tanks ability to group things up too
Personally will prob just roar
restive peak
I'll spear on fights it's called for, but I'll roar for M+ and 90% of content
hardy shuttle
Spear has the issue of being dependent on your tanks ability to group things up ...
Also meat cleaver rng hitting the tethered mobs
humble bolt
How much %increase in power is the renown 18 augment rune?
light hedge
How much %increase in power is the renown 18 augment rune?
likely same as every other rune ever was, so at best 1-2%?
humble bolt
If it was a war bound item it would be worth it. Just don't see how it has the value anymore
coarse nest
If you want to min max every pull it’s a solid investment for late CE raiders
Augment runes usually around 1k-2k gold
Do 50-100 pulls and it pays for itself
Then after that is gold saved
vapid spade
CgEArbixk/ZKwTdpZGVHeylmLAAAAAAAAAQjhZsZmhZWGzMWYmZGzwMM22mZMzMbMzMGzwMWsNDzYGAA...
thank you very much
covert blaze
If you want to min max every pull it’s a solid investment for late CE raiders
tbf damage is not a big concern if you get late CE
coarse nest
Also true
covert blaze
larias mentioned
wtf is a bad flowchart
coarse nest
I’ll probably buy it when I get the rep for it but I won’t be degening how the Larias guide says is required
compact knot
I probably used DF augment rune over 3000 times
dense elbow
If you want to min max every pull it’s a solid investment for late CE raiders
If you do m+, it pays for itself the same day
dense elbow
I still got old aug on shout
compact knot
M+, Raid, Unrated pvp
dense elbow
World content
little escarp
is fury already simming higher than Arms before new tier set?
little escarp
It simmed higher than arms all of S2
i played Arms the entirety of s2 and Arms for me felt better to play even numbers wise
junior gale
Uh ok? Good for you I guess?
eternal sundial
i played Arms the entirety of s2 and Arms for me felt better to play even number...
Maybe u were just bad at that fury iteration 
restive peak
Weird flex cuz like
eternal sundial
Jin are u playing war this tier
restive peak
Fury always simmed better for ST barring very early lol
little escarp
Uh ok? Good for you I guess?
its not what I meant, im just asking regarding the tuning we getting for s3 if it makes it better than arms even before acquiring the new tier set
little escarp
Maybe u were just bad at that fury iteration <:ratge:890357732543168594>
I wasn't tho phil 😄
marble swift
is fury going to be meta over arms for m+?
dusky moon
larias mentioned
wtf is a bad flowchart
we're on now
eternal sundial
I wasn't tho phil 😄
I couldnt tell you i skipped the tier
restive peak
Fury is infinitely better than arms currently in all aspects, yeah
little escarp
Like Arms was good last season in both m+ and raid, and fury was too ofc
restive peak
Arms was far better for M+ in S2
covert blaze
we're on now
that was a compliment
restive peak
Fury is far better for M+ in S3
dusky moon
fair enough
eternal sundial
Idk if u saw but SE finally disbanded @little escarp
restive peak
Arms is dead in 11.2 as of right now, it's dead dead
little escarp
I didn't play much fury this xpac which is why im asking about the changes for this season are they specifically related to the tier set or did the abilities themselves get a sizable buff
little escarp
Idk if u saw but SE finally disbanded <@158536651075747840>
lel nah I missed it 😄
eternal sundial
Tahngra Terror won
little escarp
Tahngra Terror won
idd lol
eternal sundial
But also roster issue
covert blaze
phil are you playing this season
eternal sundial
Same as tindral last expac rlly, guild bled out
eternal sundial
phil are you playing this season
My hunter is 654
So maybe a bit
M+ only tho
Survival 
covert blaze
we lost another one
fly high philwar
little escarp
Arms is dead in 11.2 as of right now, it's dead dead
lemme sim some thane and compare both with s2 tier and get back to u 😄
restive peak
I mean with S2 who cares
little escarp
im switching to Fury anyway tho with the current changes ofc if i get 4set
but maaaaaybbbeee Arms gets buff :>
junior gale
Don't count on it
eternal sundial
we lost another one
fly high philwar
Walhe is playing some philwar in splits
It's fine
dusty cove
So we literally dont press BT at all now as slayer?
restive peak
Last resort filler Death yeah
dusty cove
noted, thank you
eternal sundial
Last resort filler Death yeah
Before or after roar xd
restive peak
In an ideal SD+RB reset proc world, you would never touch it
LMAO fr though roar is basically the same
For pure ST
eternal sundial
Horseshit ability
junior gale
Disgusting state roar is in
little escarp
we dont press BT now as fury?! xD
eternal sundial
Aftershock 👉 ⏰ 
junior gale
And spear somehow not much better
eternal sundial
This expansion thus far has been my least favourite gameplay wise
little escarp
I miss Kyrian Mikanikos spear
covert blaze
I too miss dying to aggro more
eternal sundial
This expansion thus far has been my least favourite gameplay wise
From sl to now tbf which is low sample
little escarp
This expansion thus far has been my least favourite gameplay wise
same, I missed SL for warrior gameplay
eternal sundial
But those expac each had 4 iterations of the specs kinda
junior gale
You could say almost everything sucks about warrior and deserves a rework
eternal sundial
Charge is ok cuz its the same spell since 2004
eternal sundial
Nah range is fine idm
eternal sundial
It does when your fighting bosses with massive hit boxes
Play gnome
Smaller legs = run faster
eternal sundial
Gnome is kinda cool ye
covert blaze
Gnome is kinda cool ye
lapis shadow
glup shitto
lapis shadow
flat river
xD
eternal sundial
Snorp 
lapis shadow
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homunculus_loxodontus
LOL
limber oar
3
bitter palm
if u dont die 1 myth piece or something
quiet breach
I mean from the bosses
quiet breach
yeah we know it's hero track I'm wandering if 1/6, 2/6, or 3/6
bitter palm
3/6 i think?
lyric wolf
Ahoy ! I'm looking for a SMF build (when will it finally be cosmetic ffs) so i have a couple questions :
- Should I build around smf or should I just drop the least impactful standard-build talent ?
- In which case which one is it ?
limber oar
yeah we know it's hero track I'm wandering if 1/6, 2/6, or 3/6
Prob 3/6 i imagine
dusky moon
do we know what tasavesh hard mode will drop?
it should be 3/6 other than the alleged myth item
quiet breach
Just dont die
4head
marble pilot
They have done similar though right? Challenge mode bonus loot. Like karazhan mount timer and stuff like that
I dont remember anything for usuable loot though. It was mounts or titles
lyric wolf
I think DF doti had nice rewards item lvl wise when not dying
smoky vale
it should be 3/6 other than the alleged myth item
is the myth item going to be real
chilly fractal
Never did mail room hard mode legit in Shadowlands we just went 4 DPS and burned it down before you had to do the mechanic tossing bombs or whatever
restive peak
I highly doubt it, gonna be annoying as fuck if so
chilly fractal
If there is a Myth item that’s a its Monday night and you got some peeps together that are willing to take a crack at it for me I think
dusky moon
is the myth item going to be real
there is no way to tell but the people talking about it are usually reliable
restive peak
It's just lame if so lol
chilly fractal
there is no way to tell but the people talking about it are usually reliable
But have they ever made these speculations with their life on the line?
coarse nest
Imagine dieing an hour into the run
dusky moon
LMAO
restive peak
It's gonna be lame because everyones gonna wanna spend 1.5hrs waiting for lust etc to ensure
And it's just not gonna be fun
storm rune
I couldn't make it past the first hardmode boss without dying in DOTI
radiant plank
wtf arcane
storm rune
Well, without someone dying
chilly fractal
And it's just not gonna be fun
Go in there with friends and whoever dies first owes everyone 100k gold
smoky vale
wtf arcane
w arcane
marble pilot
What is that a normal? 35m total hp on the boss?
coarse nest
wtf arcane
🤮
modest condor
leveling dungeon?
marble pilot
Yeah looks like any timewalking/leveling dungeon. Whoever is in the right spot on scaling wins
sullen dove
lvl 80 does 1mil dps nowaying
bitter palm
arcane broken anyway
mystic hill
Do we have a pin somewhere for when were breaking S2 tier?
radiant plank
lapis shadow
Do we have a pin somewhere for when were breaking S2 tier?
Yeah its when you get 2 pieces - Then you go into raidbots and sim yourself and then you check if its worth breaking or not
👍
quiet breach
couldn't u cheese the deathless tasavesh thing by going 5 tanks lol
mystic hill
Yeah its when you get 2 pieces - Then you go into raidbots and sim yourself and ...
yeah fair enough
lapis shadow
yeah fair enough
gusty cloak
is /simc not working for anyone else in game?
coarse nest
Did you try hitting enter after typing it?
fading sky
I gotta ask whats ppl simmin atm as fury?
My guildies ely + demo at 3.7/3.8 wth is goin on?
devout totem
my lastest sim is 3M4
digital mauve
why does import talent from the discord guide channel doesn't actually import them?
bitter palm
cowfarmers goat
modest condor
wrong cow emote smh my head
restive peak
I'm like 3.45mil but have 691 weppy
fading sky
X 2?
fading sky
So only 400k behind similar elys
restive peak
Nah 1 691 and BIS OH, I had ZERO luck in M0
bitter palm
pisses me off
restive peak
I got 3 tier piece slots at 681 and that was it lol
frank dawn
blizz hates str classes
chilly fractal
RNG’d my way into a 678 mechanocore that’ll be replaced on Tuesday… if only I could’ve gotten it on a higher track
earnest canyon
can I have it
marble pilot
Havnt played much yet. Might start doing tries this weekend
marble pilot
Doesnt sound too bad. Zekvir was harder than underpin imo. But did them both pretty early on
No weird gimmick? Just dont be bad?
marble pilot
Yeah but no you have to do X dps in this phase or you lose. Or bomb tossing gimmicks
oak garden
sry caps
marble pilot
I know the damage increases over time. So its a dps check in that sense. But otherwise its just do the fight correctly and you win?
oak garden
yeah
left perch
Nah 1 691 and BIS OH, I had ZERO luck in M0
I’ve seen 3 sacbrood drop now and zero for me xdd
oak garden
kinda
the lower she gets the closer the dark circle gets
on the last 15% it was nearly on the Pattern in the middle
marble pilot
So less space which makes the mechanics harder to deal with
oak garden
idk what the shade do but i didnt wanna try it
restive peak
Save the luck for next week like Xan said 😛
marble pilot
Eh ill figure it out. Gz on it though. Nice to get the hard mode things done early. Feels better that way
sullen dove
wonder how they gonna tell between warriors that reflect 1shotted the boss vs actually did it
oak garden
the feeling is better then yes
sullen dove
like if i firstk illed with reflect but take the tiem to do it natty
sullen dove
they still gonna yoink ma shit
oak garden
you killed her after the first guess phase
sullen dove
i mean ig idk if they like keep track of that for every single character
oak garden
i think they can run an like code over the actual Combat time and look deeper in it if its low
sullen dove
left perch
that is a very good username
quiet breach
Nah 1 691 and BIS OH, I had ZERO luck in M0
I got lucky af, I got 2 hander, signet trinket, ring, legs, and helm. upgraded all to 691 except the helm
smoky vale
i mean ig idk if they like keep track of that for every single character
yoinky sploinky
quiet breach
which I'm not wearing
dapper goblet
smoky vale
gm xeos
warm crag
digital mauve
how' the in game spell tracker? worth following or just BS?
summer quail
I think it has more on it than just bladestorm
main sierra
This morning when I logged onto WOW, I noticed a white circle (quarter size) with what looks like 'mute" symbol inside of it. I flashes about every 10 seconds in different areas of the screen . Pleae help
olive wraith
main sierra
What do you mean?
sullen dove
u got a picture
dont think thatd b anything wow related unless its some random addon or weakaura
or jus like computer related
main sierra
I restarted it and no luck =/
restive peak
Ye that's an addon issue imo
olive wraith
Disable addon one at a time
main sierra
any particular addon you think would do that?
restive peak
No clue, could be any cuz new patch, systemically turn each on then off til it goes
warm crag
how' the in game spell tracker? worth following or just BS?
its ok
main sierra
okay I'll give that a shot. could it be an addon that is outdated?
restive peak
It could literally be any addon outdated or not
Unfortunately the only solution is turn each off, 1 at a time, reload, and check
Eventually you'll figure it out
main sierra
I appreicate the advice( thank you!
kindred swallow
hey guys is anyone playing slayer? I really just hate mountain thane and stoped playing for a bit cuz of it lol, are the talent builds already updated on wowhead for slayer?
radiant plank
yes
lapis shadow
hey guys is anyone playing slayer? I really just hate mountain thane and stoped ...
Thane is so fucking fun
I'm boutta clap...
red berry
lapis shadow
Yeah slayer is updated
radiant plank
are you returning 🙂
is signing up for method splits returning
restive peak
How much gold they payin you bruh
Think I'll send my DK alt into a Liquid 1 for free vault and some gold cuz IDGAF til later season how he's doin
frank dawn
is anyone getting memory crashes in dorn?
restive peak
No issues earlier when I was on
frank dawn
I remember seeing a post or two on ptr but its only been happening on live for me
gleaming siren
coarse nest
young swan
why is yours smaller
digital mauve
What's the ideal ilvl for the mage tower?
young swan
pretty sure you get scaled
digital mauve
pretty sure you get scaled
oh so I can go anytime, I jsut need to know what to do? Not gear dependant?
sullen dove
oh so I can go anytime, I jsut need to know what to do? Not gear dependant?
pmuch
sullen dove
you vs the guy she tells you not to worry about
trail locust
we go opportunist now instead of ff?
young swan
once we get tier yeah
kindred swallow
Thane is so fucking fun
i really dont like it, for me pressing thunderclap breaks the fast rotation if that makes sense
marble pilot
How though? Its exactly the same as whirlwind. Just with a short cooldown. And it turns into the best aoe we got?
compact siren
its quite evil
What’s evil is the fact that revvez just finished gearing his 32nd warlock
kindred swallow
it feels really slow
coarse nest
It’s probably the animation or sound that makes it feel slow
But it’s literally the same button
Functionally
marble pilot
Its exactly the same though isnt it? You dont hit execute so you get to bloodthirst a little more. But you are still gcd locked. Very very rarely do you have no rampage, or rb charges, bt and tclap on cd.
slim coral
👍
marble pilot
I imagine with the tblast resets with tier set thats even more true. Cause we tblast so much more
kindred swallow
it just feels weird I really dont like it
i dont enjoy pressing thunderclap as fury
rigid stirrup
Hoping thane is go to for DH council boss and that guy that spawns all those adds
marble pilot
I guess its fair. Doesnt make sense to me but thats all good.
I much prefer Thane to Slayer. But I admit some of that is warcraft 3 nostalgia. And the annoyance of the weakauras for Slayer.
I think the weakaura thing is somewhat mitigated in season 3 though with the much more frequent executes
lapis shadow
i really dont like it, for me pressing thunderclap breaks the fast rotation if t...
I can understand the clunkyness
But it's more how it feels rather than how it is
Once you get over it, it is actually fun
marble pilot
Yeah different visual and a short cooldown. It is functionally the same.
kindred swallow
I guess its fair. Doesnt make sense to me but thats all good.
I much prefer Tha...
thats fair, I dont use weakauras so I never had that problem lol
i played with thane for like a month when it got better than slayer and I was really just not enjoying it
marble pilot
It wasnt difficult to do slayer. But it was mildly annoying to have 2 different audio cues for when to hit bloodthirst/execute
Where as for thane I just click stuff
young swan
petition to make it a sticker
it doesnt come out very well
marble pilot
i played with thane for like a month when it got better than slayer and I was r...
From what ive heard slayer is still the go to in raid. And thane wins in m+ but I think slayer is still better than it was in m+ with the tier sets. Not as consistent but not bad either.
sullen dove
it doesnt come out very well
yea figure too wide
@slim coral make up some 7-8 line paragraph about how good your dps was and how fast u cleared the raid
and don’t use ai
warm crag
idk it being staunched could be funny
smoky vale
spongus
warm crag
idk try them and play what you enjoy
smoky vale
they all kinda yuck ngl
sub i have to do the 20 global opener perfectly otherwise i do 0
aug
marble pilot
I think my primary alt will be an evoker. Though more likely to be dev. I dont hate aug and it can be fun. But 7 lasers is crazy
marble pilot
I will
sullen dove
7 lasers apparently dogshit
Unless it’s good in aoe but doubt better than what fs was
at least didn’t see it on Mickey Mouse dps scaling in top 50 specs
marble pilot
F flameshaper. Adds like 4 buttons that are annoying. Where as scalecommander has 7 lasers. It isnt the main toon anyway so who cares. It will probably do like 10s maybe 12s. And mostly be a raid alt
sullen dove
1 engulf