fury

[fast mural]

was he trolling ?

[smoky vale]

yes

[pliant obsidian]

i follow his builds which really helped me in s4 last xpac got almost 2.8k or so

[fading sky]

But y if thane isnt nerfed, its gonna be preety good

[sullen dove]

s4 df

[orchid dagger]

You and I both know it's getting dumpstered w1

[olive wraith]

Stupid prot

Fucking the dps warriors

[pliant obsidian]

yea which was a good season had same gear as mythic raiders that was nice

[fast mural]

i will be doing my part playing prot in dungeons so blizz nerfs thane

[orchid dagger]

I'm playing Prot PvP to shit on some clothies

[fading sky]

Nah

Requires tier first

[pliant obsidian]

prot was nice in pvp catawhen vengeance was op

[fading sky]

Which gives us a chance🤪

[candid falcon]

did servers just go live?

[fast mural]

fury and arms did get a 5% buff this patch

[mortal mirage]

Hey guys 😄 at this point I am afraid to ask 😄 but can someone explain to me the Loboz "meme" or context? I saw that its a slayer build?

[winter shoal]

It's just a meme build

[pliant obsidian]

did we get the ww bladestorm buff too?

[winter shoal]

Yes

[olive wraith]

Yes

[pliant obsidian]

ooh

[winter shoal]

Yes have been for like 10m now

[candid falcon]

ty

[pliant obsidian]

servers seem stable?

[lean otter]

is night elf still considered best race for m+?

[orchid dagger]

No lol

[pliant obsidian]

for skips?

[orchid dagger]

Pots exist

[olive wraith]

Race doesn’t matter for 99.99% of the pop

[unborn delta]

Dwarf + pot is probably better now

[pliant obsidian]

yea improved pots now

[unborn delta]

But it doesn’t rly matter anymore

[junior gale]

It never did unless you were doing world first keys

[smoky vale]

losing dps pot not worth

nelf will always win in the end

[modest condor]

nelf and just double meld

[unborn delta]

I mean only tank rly needs meld right

[smoky vale]

no

[junior gale]

No

[olive wraith]

Not always

[fast mural]

if you play the race where your transmogs look the best you gain a 0.001% dps gain

[junior gale]

DPS can do the skips for tanks

I did the bubbles skips all the time as arms this season

[modest condor]

plenty of mechanics you can meld as a dps

[junior gale]

That too

[modest condor]

it's basically an extra defensive/interrupt

[olive wraith]

The doti tech they used in df was amazing

[lean otter]

every top m+ fury is a nelf

[junior gale]

Meld will always have a strong use case

[lean otter]

idk if thatll change next season

[smoky vale]

why would it

nelf enables group skips

also what silm said

[lean otter]

also op to avoid targeted spells

[olive wraith]

Being nelf won’t magically make a 10 key person time a 15

Play what you want

[smoky vale]

no one said that it would?

[olive wraith]

The original question related to nelf being the play in keys

[south kayak]

Think they should make this not work like that

[fading sky]

Voidy elf next patch 100%

Almost 35k dps gain from dracthyr

[orchid dagger]

It's the same as a rogue vanishing

[fading sky]

Gotta get it where u can

[south kayak]

Rogue vanishing is different because it works for one class, everyone can go shadowmeld

[red berry]

lmao

[south kayak]

when are people gonna stop posting this image

[red berry]

i just woke up dawg ngl so i didnt see it and it tickled me

its obviously a bugged tooltip

[south kayak]

I'm too frustrated to kill the underpin

[modest condor]

yeah but it's been like that on the ptr for 2 weeks now and people have posted it plenty of times

[plush zephyr]

Servers up?

[winter shoal]

ya

[main sierra]

Is Champion Spear now a talent to be used in keys?

[south kayak]

I'm having trouble killing underpin as prot, it's too annoying

[chilly fractal]

maybe its time to hang up the boots

[olive wraith]

It’s technically a dps increase. But usage might be weird

[main sierra]

Yeah I was thinking when usage would be good for it

[junior gale]

Spear is negligible you can run it if you want

[south kayak]

Yeah, I just gave up

i have too little time to be doing this

[junior gale]

All of the CDs suck so it doesn't really matter

[fast mural]

maybe should ask the devs for more passive nodes we can take instead of capstones

[orchid dagger]

DK moment

[fast mural]

didnt dk got "reworked"

[dusky moon]

I hear visions are giving 690 loot. Can someone confirm?

[junior gale]

Are they not turned off?

[dusky moon]

No

[junior gale]

Oh

[fast mural]

imagine if they give hero gear for 5 masks

[feral ivy]

thoughts?

[south kayak]

I don't have thoughts

I am thoughtless

[fast mural]

asking warriors for thoughts

[feral ivy]

zug or zug zug or nothing

[uneven schooner]

no thoughts, only rage

[feral ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/hadeel928-يوسف-العماري-موسى-الخنيزي-gif-9657627328281277434

[prime summit]

spear of bastion in m+?

its joever

[olive wraith]

Our capstones suck ass. Tr does like 2%

[orchid dagger]

Wasn't it that the passives > the cds?

[radiant plank]

https://tenor.com/view/trojan-horse-gif-15858391086454759725

@sudden tusk

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-humble-nefarious-horse-reaction-yes-gif-9282847705724326063

[lapis shadow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1063216720770240584/1081958679110242304/rapidsave.com_n8i3gzikusla1.gif

[junior gale]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-you-have-alerted-the-horse-alert-alert-horse-horse-alert-gif-10675569724654458517

[olive wraith]

Rip can’t even continue the story

Quest is bugging

[devout totem]

thx NA for beta testing for EU 🫡

[junior gale]

Your doing your job as an NA beta tester

[finite burrow]

Hello guys

[flat river]

lmao

spec betrayers

[fast mural]

imagine playing fury before new tier set

[flat river]

chad fr

[finite burrow]

I have no idea what we do when

[orchid dagger]

Imagine playing dps war lmao

[finite burrow]

I just dont want to be a burden for my raid team

[fast mural]

[finite burrow]

probably wrong class i know

[fast mural]

you bring battleshout

as long as you have that your good

[finite burrow]

and the other war?

[fast mural]

oh your cooked

[finite burrow]

[orchid dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/boondocks-read-rap-fans-exorcism-uncle-ruckus-gif-23038600

[finite burrow]

Im on wowhead now, copy talens and learn rota

Doing my part

[flat river]

But I'm not a femboy

wait

[junior gale]

[uneven schooner]

Has anyone put together 11.2 dps sims with all specs? i cant find anything on google

[fading sky]

Tier so strong we should get prio

🤣👍

[undone flower]

I would guess what you ask exist in the pit

Competitivewow

[uneven schooner]

im guessing that is a discord?

[undone flower]

No the Reddit /competitivewow

[dusky moon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/759564659714949213/1402378043434995895/image.png?ex=6893b1d4&is=68926054&hm=b92df4814e728f847d7d7c323cae77b5bcd36a4b9665dc150a023339b81b57bf&

[dusky moon]

Hey that's me

[flat river]

xd

[winter shoal]

No that's Sairal

[orchid dagger]

That doesn't look like an Annihilape pfp on that redditor

[shrewd mango]

alright guys Ive been gone for a bit

MT strong slayer weak?

[winter shoal]

How long is a piece of string

[south kayak]

MT M+ slayer raid

[shrewd mango]

i need to learn two speccs? I can barely read

thats why im playing fury warr

[winter shoal]

What if I told you they play very similarly

[smoky vale]

@dusky moon why didnt you go boom

[winter shoal]

It's like 2 buttons different

[smoky vale]

its the same shit bro

[bitter palm]

did u get title

[dusky moon]

Because I'm not an arms warrior

[smoky vale]

i legit got 0.5 above

[bitter palm]

gz

huge

[shrewd mango]

any guide for prepping for patch?

[fading sky]

Just chill

Dmf do quests

M0 + delvies

Done relaxe

[shrewd mango]

What's DMF?

relax sounds nice, thank you

[undone flower]

Still funny that you need 8 dungeons for the vault but there is only 6 this week

[fading sky]

Darkmoom faire buff

For 10% more rep, dno if u cba

[shrewd mango]

bruh is it maintenance rn?

[winter shoal]

scroll up slightly and/or ctrl+f "larias"

[dusky moon]

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1WwbpkS28CeZ7_lqqWLdumjZV7_kwJeGEUQ2O4dWenOc/mobilebasic

[serene moat]

Are we really going for vers cloak? Feels wierd...

[fading sky]

Is there a choice?

[south kayak]

I think we have too much of haste and mastery than it's DRd

[winter shoal]

You will use the artifact cloak and you will like it

[serene moat]

You can choose by socketing one of all secondaries.

[proper swallow]

any craft choices?

:lul

[serene moat]

[proper swallow]

except bracers

[olive wraith]

Why? We have so much stats

[proper swallow]

Vers is never weird tho

more dam less taken win win

[gloomy sequoia]

dexterous

[fading sky]

Then choice is what robot tells u

[delicate mirage]

any major rotation change i need to know bout ❤️

[winter shoal]

No bc you won't have new tier until next week at the earliest anyways

There'll be some minor changes to exe conditions for slayer and BT for thane once you have new tier, but you can check the wowhead guide for that once you have it

[dire parrot]

Fury > Arms for raid focus with M+ just for gearing?

OR Fury < Arms?

Been playing protection, and have been switched to dps.

[fading sky]

I mean old tier arms > fury new tier fury >>>>>> arms

[dire parrot]

Yeah, ok. So basically fury as soon as I get tier

[fading sky]

Y

[dire parrot]

Thanks, man. Appriciate it

[junior gale]

Doesn't really matter

Play what you want till tier

[fading sky]

I mean let the brother cook

[dire parrot]

I was going to play fury with old tier till I got new tier 😄

[junior gale]

Go for it

[fast mural]

he is onto something

maybe we all should do that

[fading sky]

Bit

I need use my 2 gear sets

One last week

[smoky vale]

raging blow57

[fading sky]

Rb even more bt even less

Unless u mean m+, then go fish

[bitter palm]

raging blow

[smoky vale]

proportionally how many raging blows am i pressing for 1 bt

[bitter palm]

249

according to cowfarmers

[earnest canyon]

lol

[orchid dagger]

33.33, repeating ofc, %

[smoky vale]

the answer is 57

[radiant plank]

271

[compact knot]

i got

a sacbrood

HAHA

[smoky vale]

can you show me your sac

[undone flower]

Balls

[fast mural]

wasted his rng before m+

F

[compact knot]

i didnt even loot it

the healer priest looted it

[undone flower]

He paid a turbo 5 stack special skyhold boost

[flat river]

real

[bitter palm]

its sim bait anyway

[smoky vale]

i cant wait to do 16 delves and 16 m0s

[orchid dagger]

Is m0 > delve +8?

[thick fossil]

Wow, these new mounts are fugly.

[orchid dagger]

Nvm, pvp greens are 697

[fast mural]

lmao

[orchid dagger]

[fast mural]

the ones for honor ?

[orchid dagger]

For pvp areas yeah

You think I'd do it for pve?

[fast mural]

why else would you do pvp this week

[fading sky]

I think my alt will do 6 m0 + 2 delves

[orchid dagger]

To dunk on shitters, duh

[tepid lily]

what

fiber

do I need

[frozen berry]

Our talent builds don't change till we get the new teir sets right?

[plush zephyr]

yes

#updates-midnight

[dense sedge]

Bros we still using the BT wago in s3?

KERCHING

[plush zephyr]

Nothing will change until tier set, so, yeah.

even then I don't think anything is really changing

archi will update the wa/and if anything changes

[shrewd mango]

so we do m+0 and delves this week?

[olive wraith]

And reshi quest

[restive peak]

Bro this week is so boring

I wanna jump and wakeup Tuesday

Cloak in 40mins, cool you get to do m0s or afk now smile

[earnest canyon]

at least you guys got the patch

[smoky vale]

@dusky moon can you make a reminder wa for me

[restive peak]

I mean you'll be done in 40m tm

And wait til Wed xD

[radiant plank]

Delve it up

[restive peak]

Sure I'll also get some needles for my eyes to make it easier bro

Jk I'm gonna do my delves but I'm not gonna enjoy it smile

[olive wraith]

Now do it for 8 alts too

[orchid dagger]

Lmao

[restive peak]

Retired for a reason big dawgyt THIS ACC GETS 1 CLOAK 1 VAULT IN 2025

[delicate mirage]

we have champ spear back ? When do i use lol

just off CD?

[thick fossil]

Two handed mace is kinda cool

[chilly fractal]

I like the sword the most

[sullen dove]

held right at the top as expected

so dumb

[plush zephyr]

That’s how you would hold a big ass mace like that with one hand

[mortal grotto]

what fiber are people going with the cloak?

[coarse nest]

Yeah the physics of my weapon need to be perfectly realistic in this high fantasy online video game

Spot on

[thick fossil]

I hate being right that they're giving Xalatoes a bit of a redemption arc. God, why can't villains just be villains for once?

[upbeat swan]

curious on this one too. I imagine its vers?

[orchid dagger]

She was always hinted to not be the big bad, not even in earlier xpacs

Also she's every Priest's waifu

She got the Sylvussy treatment

[chilly fractal]

really can't go wrong...

[thick fossil]

Sylvanus deserved to die for what she did to the tree.

[orchid dagger]

Should have handed her another lighter

Fuck em

[tawny pivot]

mfw another month of no trading post dorf mogs

[dusky moon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/703989285828689953/1402398005079834665/image.png?ex=6893c46b&is=689272eb&hm=f404c09f01d82fbc0e548eb6d5fe13841ecb58944c90d90c173cb6df4da0bec1&

[limber oar]

???

wasnt 701 max this week? or am i lost

[thick fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zenp66w8i7c
One of the best cinematics of Shadowlands.

[coarse nest]

Somebody didn’t read the guide

Smh

[flat river]

the best one is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Nb3q1oROOg&ab_channel=Wowhead

[summer quail]

can't believe you guys forgot about Pelagos becoming the arbiter

[thick fossil]

[orchid dagger]

Should have handed Sylvanus another lighter

[sullen dove]

at least she actually killed someone here

otherwise useless ass bih did her dirty in sylv fight cinematic

shoulda walloped her

[brittle snow]

Didnt fury get buffs?

or somethin

[modest condor]

yes

[brittle snow]

cool

[dusty cove]

The bis list says the BOE with random stats is bis. In the meantime, is the tier helm the best option?

[smoky vale]

@dusky moon help i cant progress in the campaign

[olive wraith]

Ignore the bis list until like week 10

[silver pecan]

Yo whats meta atm?

[brittle crow]

diff class

[silver pecan]

good 1

[olive wraith]

Wait for .5 patch

[limber oar]

Anytime yoire stuck, logout and log back in

[smoky vale]

i had to fly

:p

[dusty cove]

noted, thank you

[main hound]

should i change to the new talent build? or do we wait till we have 2 pce?

[plush zephyr]

#updates-midnight

You’re chillin

[wintry hatch]

we taking energizing fiber?

[dusty cove]

Does the legendary cloak change abilities with you? or are they different types of cloak?

[feral ivy]

anyone randomly sneaking ?

[woven valley]

Probably can be simmed yeah?

[olive wraith]

Thane 2p is balls

Slayer maybe

[mild ravine]

guys, do we play with the new talents only after getting the new set?

[olive wraith]

Scroll up 1 screen

[glad coyote]

so we rocking which fiber?

[olive wraith]

Gonna be a sim question

[main hound]

dont we go thane for m+ ?

[olive wraith]

Yes

Thane power comes from 4p

[haughty carbon]

Hello, please tell me, With the 4piece raging blow is very low priority?

Even RB proc is less important that bloodbath ?

[olive wraith]

For slayer? No. For thane it’s filler

[haughty carbon]

Ok

Thx !

[slim coral]

it's that easy

[feral ivy]

whats a third party software ? that ppl use and what for

[dense elbow]

Pirate Software

[dense elbow]

Third party, would be something that isnt you or blizzard. You are the first party, blizzard is the 2nd. 3rd is anyone else.

They just tell you: Dont use cheat engines or similar software to try to modify the game experience. You might be punished if we catch you!

[sullen dove]

some mf was yapping about transmogging shields to dps warriors and paladins

Dumbest shit I ever heard

morphing transmogs is like another type

[dense elbow]

Man, I havent heard about skin since League days

ppl do that for WoW too, eh. I am not really suprised.

Hope they get banned Farm mogs like the rest of us

[sullen dove]

I mean like mogging stuff that’s not supposed to be mogged

turning caster 1hands into staves or 2 handed weapons into shields shit like that

going by what one of the commenters said at least

[smoky vale]

lol

[smoky vale]

mog me

:3

@sullen dove we finna delve together or what

[dense elbow]

Yeah, or turn their character into a squirrel. But this steps into gamechanging territory. Is swapping textures on the shield to a 2hand too much? Some would argue it aint. Changing textures of NPCs, spelleffects and player animations (PvP)... well...

They might be innocent, but when it comes to gamers I lean more into them just trying to get away with some sort of exploit or advantage

[slim coral]

what lol

[radiant kettle]

Am i crazy or is the talent import code from the thane M+ fury guide broken?

[oblique trail]

Seems to work for me

[smoky vale]

meow

[oblique trail]

At least on wowhead

[radiant kettle]

maybe im bugged. ty.

[smoky vale]

(meow back)

[oblique trail]

If you haven't, try and copy the code from the talent calculator on wowhead and see if that works instead

[smoky vale]

meow

[oblique trail]

meow indeed

[restive peak]

Lmao

You get graves from randos

[fathom wolf]

Do we not have to get corruption enchants now?

[restive peak]

No

[earnest canyon]

How long did they say the NA patch would take, eg servers offline, and how long did it actually take?

[limber oar]

till 6 est, came up 2:30

[earnest canyon]

OK thqnks.... What start time did they give then, est? For them to start. 3.5hrs early is good but I need to know the start time.

4.5hrs I guess

[shell parcel]

Fellas why are we playing Champion Spear in M+ talents? what did I miss?

[earnest canyon]

7pdt is 10 est according to Google

[soft kestrel]

Hello, guys! Has fury warrior mountain thane and slayer rotations changed much in 11.2? Or does everything stay the same?

[undone flower]

Because roar suck, even last season you barely took it in raid (without the capstones)

[brittle crow]

can fury use the lightning clap glyph yet?

[young swan]

stays the same until you get set bonuses, minor changes afterward

[soft kestrel]

Can you tell me pls, what are those minor changes?

[restive peak]

EU should be up quick

Based on ours, it's smooth and everything

[young swan]

they dont matter until you have tier at which point they will be available in the wowhead guide

[modest condor]

eu reset isnt until 6am anyway

[restive peak]

I haven't had anything besides some minor input lag when I 1st went to the new zone, and the world boss ofc

[young swan]

simple stuff like BT prio moving down for slayer and moving up for thane

[soft kestrel]

Ah, yeah, makes sense. Hopefully, everything stays as straightforward as it was

[main hound]

with set bonuses, stomp is > ya?

[brittle crow]

tblast is

tclap isnt

[lean heart]

we're supposed to have a full spark this week right

[main hound]

which fiber are you guys taking?

vers?

[undone flower]

EU maintenance are usually pretty fast, and it is not at the same time of the reset

Fast bc NA beta test the server maintenance I guess

Maintenance is always 3 am - 4 am and you can play again at 3:30

[floral frigate]

soo um I have half a spark and the guy next to the catayst doesnt have a quest any more

am i screwed?

[restive peak]

Relog Keeg

And I wish we had 30m maint

[floral frigate]

ok i will after this 0

[olive wraith]

easy peasy

[modest condor]

lol that's less than a hero track lens

[brittle crow]

god im so good at this game

wonder if that outsims a 671 jastor diamond

[unborn delta]

was there an update today?

[young swan]

yeah the patch came out

[sullen dove]

damn does this show how many sd charges you have now

holy fire

[neat dew]

Do any of you have input lag? Trying everything but cant seem to fix it. Like 0,5 sec after a cast the game updates that i can cast rampage for example

[lean heart]

this happened to me as well
ive relogged a buncha times already too

[floral frigate]

ya that didnt do anything

nothing on guy

nothing in mail

[main hound]

is this phase diving shit giving yall issues?

[echo rapids]

Tell me you have F3 bound to a mouse button

[restive peak]

Bro 3 m0s down, 2 tier piece slots so far RIP

[lean heart]

i submitted a bug report havent heart anything back

[sullen dove]

no i use my fingers?

[echo rapids]

Damn you really hit F3 for execute?

[sullen dove]

not exactly far away

[main hound]

this games ass

i cant enter phase diving

bugged out

[brittle crow]

IM SO GOOD AT THIS GAME

[dense fulcrum]

any new cool weak aura for s3 boys?

(not fury related even)

[main hound]

anyone else not able to enter phase diving for the special assignment?

[young swan]

why are u wasting all of your luck on m0s

[wintry hatch]

for free vault lol?

[spare steppe]

so i did a m0 and got no loot, am i cooked boys

[winter shoal]

Yes reroll NOW

[earnest canyon]

@undone flower you staying awake for the servers coming back up?

[undone flower]

Yes

Committing war crimes on rimworld in the meantime

[earnest canyon]

Can you ping me when they are then please ? 😉

[brittle crow]

:3

got priory 2h now too

[winter shoal]

bro???

[restive peak]

I sincerely hope you didn't pay for loot m0 runs lol

[brittle crow]

nope just plate stack w/ guild

done 3 dungeons so far

[restive peak]

Oh ok so you're gettin traded shit

Makes sense lol

[brittle crow]

nope

all looted myself

[restive peak]

Bro wtf I've done 3 and I got a chest and boots, garbage

[ember solar]

has anyone unlocked the campaign skip? i did the campaign (chapter 3) got my cloak, world boss, two world quests etc... still no skip option at Om'en NPC

[floral frigate]

i got traded a weapon

[young swan]

holy fuck server lag is so bad

[brittle crow]

got a 6th piece

traded it to my DK tho

[floral frigate]

@lean heart i did the theater play and got my other spark half

[marble pilot]

Why does the world boss even drop belts

[vagrant cave]

So why Vers on the artifact cloak?

[earnest canyon]

Usually stuff like that it's for one of 2 reasons

[vagrant cave]

Are we going to reach levels of diminishing retturns on haste/mastery by the end of the season, so just doing Vers now ahead of it?

[junior gale]

we already did in 11.1

Dont think to hard about it just sim it. Sims will take care of any DRs

[summer quail]

Vers has always been pretty good as fury(atleast for the last few expansions) even in undermine tons of people have/had vers simming higher

[young swan]

which one of u dorks knows the fastest delve to run

[bitter palm]

sidestreet?

the one under the bridge

in undermine

that one is fast asf

[young swan]

sweet

[bitter palm]

and easy

(cause warrior)

[bitter palm]

bro why is ts

agi only

[spare steppe]

right

[inland flame]

can you not read it also says int

[spare steppe]

ok but why not strength]

give mastery

[inland flame]

because there are no 90s strength specs

[bitter palm]

it showed agi only on the guide page

either way

dont care

[woven valley]

blizz actively dislikes us

[bitter palm]

why no strength

[woven valley]

kek

[bitter palm]

tbf we have no cds

anyway

xdd

[calm ermine]

Any addon to show rares and books?

[smoky vale]

rarescan

[calm ermine]

ty

[bitter palm]

nacserar

[smoky vale]

are you having fun watching me

[bitter palm]

im gonna fall asleep

[spare steppe]

not being able to get the delver's bounty until 2 is brutal

[silver pecan]

Is spear better than roar or something?

Revves says roar though

[summer quail]

yes technically it is better

[smoky vale]

me when it makes 0 difference

because they both suck

[bitter palm]

it makes a difference

1 difference

24.545 vs 24.544 dps

[silver pecan]

Does spear still vortex mobs?

[summer quail]

if you just crit on all your abilities then spear is pretty good. just highroll

[bitter palm]

honestly not a single talent matters apart from avatar and these gatekeeping nodes at the bottom

u can drop spear and take 2x cruel strikes

spear can high roll

i mean thane set can high roll during spear

which can be very big dam

[silver pecan]

mmm

Alr thanks

[smoky vale]

3 ara kara

owns

🙂

[marble pilot]

Oof we really running double passive trinkets huh

[summer quail]

hey we could be running double on use

double passive is way better

[edgy widget]

they're both super close

Roar has dropped a lot in ST, but its still fairly high prio (if also fairly unimpressive) in MT

Spear is a bit of a mixed bag, since its value depends on hitting targets with it - if it's too much of a hassle, just play Roar

[proven stream]

we still have to use the execute conditions WA even with new tier?

[ebon arch]

What are some classes that have good cd and rotational flow? I love how my ret alt rotation feels (with templar strikes) but not huge on the thematic. Any multiclassers that can help a noob? And if there is a multiclass subreddit that's a better place to ask this please send me that way.

When I say flow I mean like nothing that feels counterintuitive like holding cds or not being able to dump resources effectively etc.

[edgy widget]

technically yes, but the conditions will change to be a little more lax

[undone flower]

Is roar worth pressing in pure ST now ?

[edgy widget]

I mean, aside from some fairly minor Execute gaming, Warrior is pretty much a "full send" class

Arms Slayer has the worst of it, where you'll follow a WA to tell you when to use a specific proc, but Thane and Colossus don't care about that

[ebon arch]

oof that sounds rough

[edgy widget]

I mean it's not really, that's the point

[crude plume]

is wow getting ddos right now?

[edgy widget]

yeah, by its own players

[crude plume]

oh ok

[ebon arch]

Which of the specc and hero combos do you think has the best flow?

[tepid cedar]

servers jsut died

lol

[edgy widget]

Kinda personal - Thane is the simplest, Colossus has a lot of moving parts but you don't really need to go out of your way to think about them and just full send

Fury Slayer has a tiny bit of "hold onto this proc for a moment" and Arms Slayer has a lot of "hold onto this proc for a moment"

[ebon arch]

When I played fury slayer things kept unsyncing a little

[olive wraith]

Slayer is king of desync

[edgy widget]

I mean yes, there is some desync, but I don't believe that means it has a bad "flow"

[dense fulcrum]

so we're not taking the talent that makes our crit dmg while enemies under spear?

[edgy widget]

becuase you don't need to sync them

you send Bladestorm on CD, you don't care if it desyncs from Reck, because you're going to just send it on CD regardless

same thing with Demolish, for the most part

[olive wraith]

Man I want 4p already

Bring on the claps

[edgy widget]

Also Season 3 Bladestorm comes off CD so quickly it's not really a consideration lol

[olive wraith]

Oh right I forgot you get more mfe

[edgy widget]

yeah it's like a 20s CD on Bladestorm, so even if BS and Reck desync, there's a very good chance that BS is going to come back off CD before Reck ends anyway

[olive wraith]

Hmmm 2p slayer might be pretty solid in keys

At least for a week or two

[edgy widget]

if you really wanna min/max it, Slayer will probably be the go-to over Thane until you get 4p

[dense fulcrum]

u mean slayer without the set in m+?

[frank dawn]

TFW when you have a good tier bonus for the first time in 2 years

[olive wraith]

Slayer with 2p

[dense fulcrum]

ah ok

[olive wraith]

Fukn real

[edgy widget]

no, clearly I'm talking about Slayer with 4p but Thane without 4p

you should just take off your set when you swap to Thane

[ebon arch]

Gotcha. It doesn't sound to bad although a bit weird.

[olive wraith]

Was playing slayer in some m0

Bs is doing pretty good damage

[edgy widget]

I haven't bothered to spend much time quantifying it, since it only barely matters for such a short window anyway, but just an obvious observation, given that Slayer/Bladestorm got a big buff while Thane's power spike comes from tier, it stands to reason that Slayer will likely have a small edge until the new tier is collected

[olive wraith]

Ye plus the minor ww buffs

[brittle crow]

how does thane fury want to sync its cds if they're slightly off

if i do at all

[dense fulcrum]

we yea i didnt think about it

[olive wraith]

I mean you just have rav/reck

That desyncs avatar

[brittle crow]

and ava and spear

[edgy widget]

Thane doesn't really have much desync since Reck/Rav line up with each other

[olive wraith]

Avatar and spear/roar always line up

[edgy widget]

They can desync from Ava/Spear, but since you're playing with Berseker's Torment, pressing Ava gives you Reck and vice versa anyway

[brittle crow]

always is a strong word

shit happens

yea i forgot abt torment tho

[edgy widget]

I mean they always do unless you do something wrong

[brittle crow]

will send

[brittle crow]

the doing something wrong is having slight downtime in m+

[edgy widget]

if you have downtime between pressing Avatar and Spear or Roar, you're doing something wrong lol

[brittle crow]

what no

[edgy widget]

none of those abilities are affected by variable CDR, so downtime won't affect them

[winter shoal]

If you play uproar you can

But you should not play uproar

[brittle crow]

i meant between reck and avatar

not avatar and spear

[olive wraith]

Rek gives you avatar

[edgy widget]

uproar is a flat amount of CDR, it still won't desync unless you're doing something wrong

[dense fulcrum]

ahahah no i meant now that we dont have any new set, btw ye i understand z.z 5 am in EU after a full day of boosting my brain is cooked

[brittle crow]

yea ik i forgot

my problem is solved

[winter shoal]

I was meaning with downtime in M+

[edgy widget]

press roar anyway

[olive wraith]

No set they’re probably relatively even

[edgy widget]

zero damage is zero damage, no matter how many targets it hits

[elder granite]

unable to load into character screen/server issues rn?

[junior gale]

NA servers are currently dying

[tepid cedar]

damn i lieterally jsut kileld WB was about to loot it

i got a feeling i lsot my wb loot

[dense fulcrum]

prob gonna try anyway, i mean doing m0 just for fun

[winter shoal]

Bro that world boss takes like 20 mins

It's fucked up

[plush zephyr]

same

[brittle crow]

don't we take spear not roar

[dense fulcrum]

thing is i dont get why we dont take the crit dmg buff under spear

[olive wraith]

They’re pretty even

[dense fulcrum]

i thought that was the juicy part of using spear

[olive wraith]

(Both are ass)

[brittle crow]

oh wtf we don't take the crit buff?

[dense fulcrum]

while spamming thunderblast (with set)

[winter shoal]

As thane, roar better st, spear better aoe (I think)
As slayer, roar always

[plush zephyr]

Spear macro?

[tepid cedar]

lol; honestly just forget that stuff this week. all these chan ges dont matter until u have new tier. uir legit playing the same as u have been the past few months

[brittle crow]

im just gonna take roar then idgaf

[winter shoal]

Me when I spread misinformation

[brittle crow]

ive been playing colossus prot

[tepid cedar]

ahhh

[silent gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/vaughn-chat-karoline-press-sec-gif-1020120783011272162

[olive wraith]

People on the internet would never

[silent gazelle]

cringe ass gif

[dense fulcrum]

is greyed out on my screen

for that i asked

how i am spreading disinformation i literally asked 2 times

[winter shoal]

idk man it's right there

[tepid cedar]

stormrage went down lol

[winter shoal]

Why ask in discord when you can read the wowhead guide lmao

[dense fulcrum]

i was on wowhead guide? lmao

and was greyed out for me

[olive wraith]

I didn’t see you ask tbf

[dense fulcrum]

otherwise why i would ask?

[winter shoal]

fwiw @brittle crow this is what thane would be with roar

take roar and 2x crit nodes, no caps

[olive wraith]

Were you looking at the correct build

[lean valley]

why game gotta be down

:(

[dense fulcrum]

doesn't matter anymore

we take it

:ez:

[brittle crow]

base roar looks so gross
where are the other 2 points spent

[olive wraith]

Stat nodes

[dusky moon]

you can buy upgradable to 691 weapons from the vendor if youve done a 5mask

[edgy widget]

depends on the build

[dense fulcrum]

eu maintenance till 11 am

[olive wraith]

Our capstones are so bad

[edgy widget]

and whether you wanna fuck with spear or not

[brittle crow]

i already accidentally screwed my tank w spear on day 1

[lean valley]

No, I am US Tich I was in a m0 and me and my buddys are stuck at retrieving character list

[brittle crow]

i don't wanna fuck w it if there's no significant gain

so ill take roar

[plush zephyr]

I fuck with spear

[olive wraith]

Ya either way it’s like 2% of your damage or less

[junior gale]

servers are dying is what it is

[plush zephyr]

troar boring

[edgy widget]

Roar is better in AoE than people have been giving it credit for, it's mostly the ST priority that's fallen down low

[plush zephyr]

Spear macro same set up as heroic leap?

[edgy widget]

even v 2 targets, Roar is still one of the higher prio buttons

[brittle crow]

even on st don't you just press it w avatar

[edgy widget]

So is OF, actually, it's a lot better in MT than people have been giving it credit for, but it's not easy to fit into the Thane build, which holds it back a bit

[brittle crow]

yo archi place ur bets

do we catch strays from prot getting nerfed

[bitter palm]

awful pathing to it for thane

ngl

[olive wraith]

I think we do

[bitter palm]

i dont want rb damage

as thane

[edgy widget]

Yeah that's the problem

[slim coral]

It's that easy

[edgy widget]

I kept sayin that OF should have followed Deft, and Onslaught followed Crit Thinking - it makes more sense

[bitter palm]

just replace onslaught and of no

ye

[slim coral]

I miss OF

good times

[junior gale]

good times

[edgy widget]

Onslaught is still pretty mid though, haven't had much luck with it yet

[keen sequoia]

Hi guys, wow stucked here, what can i do?

[edgy widget]

wait

[winter shoal]

#fury message

[junior gale]

NA servers are down

[slim coral]

pray the devs let you in

[edgy widget]

all builds can be found under Load / Export Builds
https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/

[oblique thistle]

the water claimed me

[brittle crow]

im blind sowwy

[sullen dove]

@fleet sorrel cop?

[brittle crow]

would

[fleet sorrel]

slamtaga

[sullen dove]

17 paragraphs 20% slam

[tepid cedar]

lol what really sucks this tier is that 4 or our prelim bis are all from M+ vault., thatys gonna be aids with such a huge pool lolol

[slim coral]

yeah true

[tepid cedar]

circuit breaker, trinket and both rings

pretty big items too lol

[lean heart]

yup same

[tepid cedar]

someone find an exploit

so we get crafted weapon next week

plz

k thanks

so annoying 1h classes wilk have a 720 weapon. worse game desing ever for fairplay lolz

[sullen dove]

and yet they have to spend double the crests on them

win some ya lose some

[winter shoal]

I only ever win (real)

Except week 2 of amirdrassil when I lost my r1 heroic volcoross to some stinker name swordfish

[sudden tusk]

servers explode

[young swan]

tich is giga deadge

[junior gale]

been exploded

[sullen dove]

last time i will ever achieve anything

[junior gale]

for like 30 min

[limpid hinge]

Is Mountain Thane still clocking in higher than Slayer in M+?

[junior gale]

right now no

[winter shoal]

Once you get 4p probably

Before then it's a sim question

But also just play what you enjoy

That's also assuming fury thane doesn't catch a stray from prot thane getting shot

[junior gale]

spoiler it will

[olive wraith]

Let us dream

For a week

[plush zephyr]

servers up i think

[tepid cedar]

confirm!

[plush zephyr]

i am playing

confirmed

[dense elbow]

[plush zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/catboy-gif-16150011486852739539

[fossil moss]

easy game, now if only I had the base mount for it

[dense fulcrum]

already? xD

[fast quest]

jesus dude touch grass

[plush zephyr]

heeeeellll yeah

that's inspiration thank you

[shadow hamlet]

fiber

[bitter palm]

wtf

why am i fighting her again

[summer quail]

coz her dad is the 2nd last boss in the raid

[restive peak]

I forgot to do the underpin lmao

FML

[summer quail]

do you miss out on the title then? that title is sick

[sullen dove]

the raid one is better

[dense fulcrum]

i missed underpin too

totally forgot...

[remote bobcat]

im curious what build loboz is gonna cook up

[sudden tusk]

@sullen dove

had to rename the hunter

[summer quail]

should have renamed it "dobbytier"

[sudden tusk]

that would have actually been better damn

[merry jetty]

What are the bis tribkets this season?

[dense fulcrum]

eu server up

[remote bobcat]

yes

[sullen dove]

what from onlybows? or some other derivative idr

[sudden tusk]

was onlybows

but it was taken on illidan

[sullen dove]

y u on illidan

[sudden tusk]

guildge

[sullen dove]

jus like

join it anyway?

[sudden tusk]

was a ask for all split chars

[sullen dove]

[pliant fulcrum]

Was this done using the Shield reflect tech?

[covert blaze]

is there a title for it

[dusky moon]

707 cloak vendor viber -> tailorer fiber https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/759564659714949213/1402508794742837259/image.png?ex=68942b9a&is=6892da1a&hm=44e630003c445151e107be5b83827a3bd51203d92ac791cade101d20f2cb9e76& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/759564659714949213/1402508885914423338/image.png?ex=68942baf&is=6892da2f&hm=35da4b2fc5006e0ea92f10a71c9f757c5ad32d830c532a1d6d0fffb42f158921&

[sullen dove]

anyone else getting like electric floor on gally just buggin out

i dont rly know whats happening myself but my raid chain dying to it

think they like spawning randomly in the middle of the floor where they shouldnt

[nimble sphinx]

Yeah gally is bugged

[woven valley]

yeah my guild had to stop tonight cause gally would kill everyone that tried to cross kek

[eternal sundial]

SV surely

[sullen dove]

and also why is ele shaman doing 40% more damage on the boss than anyone else in the raid

[lilac snow]

what reshi fiber are u guys using for m+?

[dense fulcrum]

https://www.wowhead.com/it/guide/classes/warrior/fury/talent-builds-pve-dps#mythicplus-build-mountain-thane-recommended-multitarget i see that on this talents u guys wanna drop rally, but what i can remove to keep it? its like the only utility we have in m+ as defensive tool for party

[celest sierra]

Spear of Bastion is better then roar now?

[gleaming siren]

Long Shockwave, big TClap, Charge charge/CDR are not directly throughput

[celest sierra]

for Thane M+?

[sour frigate]

Same.

[keen kindle]

Bro is a fucking gamer

[celest sierra]

Is spear of Bastion really the play now for M+ Thane?

[fading sky]

Once u get new 4p

[celest sierra]

so roar is out completely

[fading sky]

Prob yes

[wind canopy]

personally I took the point out of rumbling earth (talent underneath shockwave) to keep rallying

buff rallying cry blizzard cmon

[olive wraith]

They’re really close play what you prefer

[dense fulcrum]

ye was thinking the same, the cd reduction on shockwave and range is good tho

[junior gale]

fuck rally lmao

[wind canopy]

it is but seems like the only talent to drop for rally

make rally good again

(they wont)

[storm rune]

Rally is the talent to drop

[dense fulcrum]

🙁

ok to one side

we can spam stun on packs and that can be one utlity gg ez stun bringer

but i want rally to be good

i feel good when i use it, unfort is too bad xD u dont really notice it but its something

[storm rune]

Change it to a raid wide defensive stance

[storm birch]

I can think of many times I saved someone with a rally on a damage tick that I knew was going to kill them

It’s weak but it can def prevent a death.

[storm rune]

That's nice

[young swan]

lolcakes

get it before it gets patched lmfao

[dense fulcrum]

ye ye for sure, i mean compared to other party defensive tools. For that i dont wanna really drop it

[dense fulcrum]

bugged? xD

[young swan]

nope

just some unintended interactions u could say

[sour tundra]

does it matter what delve we do right now? or just anything up to 8

[eternal sundial]

@young swan nice pdiddy tag

[young swan]

thank you

[olive wraith]

Anything to 8

[woven valley]

oh? unintended huh? i need to do this

[olive wraith]

Probably gonna just take them to 11 cause I still need vault slots

[dense fulcrum]

i actually dont have any quest from bran tho

[tired gate]

im picking fury back up, do we hold bloodthirst until its at 85% buff from bloodcraze?

[young swan]

yeah u can still just go in there and kill her

as long as you have delve 11 done

[dense fulcrum]

ah ok lol

holy shit btw frost dk so clean to play (off topic i know)

[sudden tusk]

dude

?? delve ios crazy

[young swan]

its uh

something

[dense fulcrum]

[young swan]

pretty sure its just impossible for every class but warrior

[sour tundra]

why's that

[dense fulcrum]

oh no warrior nerf

[young swan]

every mechanic is a one shot and the boss has 1b hp

[sudden tusk]

is there a cheese or something

[young swan]

hmm idk

is there

[dense fulcrum]

fury saved

[young swan]

i was prot

[dense fulcrum]

ye i know

[sudden tusk]

what are you eevn reflecting

[dense fulcrum]

so either thane or colossus bug (?) or reflect stuff

[young swan]

pepeScheming

[dense fulcrum]

o shiiiit xD

[young swan]

just go play around with it i think you'll figure it out pretty fast

[sour tundra]

what level delve do you have to clear to try ??

[lean heart]

can fury do that

[young swan]

11

[molten wing]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-ion-ion-hazzikostas-ion-nod-wow-nod-gif-9634381326624666753

[lean heart]

or has to be prot for lower SR

[young swan]

i played prot for lower sr but im not even sure you need to

[lean heart]

[young swan]

but also playing fury is worthless cause any damage that comes from your character is worthless

[fossil moss]

It's better to be prot

[slim coral]

Fury finally meta

And it’s in delves

[sour frigate]

[sudden tusk]

hmm

[smoky vale]

whats the tech

[slim coral]

We aren’t telling you

[smoky vale]

blow up

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-plan-evil-smile-fight-me-evil-raccoon-gif-13886764

[fossil moss]

Big secret

[young swan]

baze have u done it

[smoky vale]

xan tell me

[slim coral]

Nah I’m just messing with gio I was too busy rep maxing and doing 8 delves and dungeons on my main and dk

[young swan]

it is literally no fun if you dont figure it out for yourself

[smoky vale]

#fury message

[slim coral]

Honestly with that new frost dk sim I might main it for prog

[smoky vale]

this is my only hint

[young swan]

yeah

[smoky vale]

link sim

[slim coral]

Frost dk burst with the damage Amps are nuts

[sudden tusk]

so i uh

found it lmao

[slim coral]

It’s behind paywall

[young swan]

no spoiling

[slim coral]

I’ll take a pic tho

[young swan]

dm me

[smoky vale]

bro

version 6 got shot

gg

[slim coral]

Me or madox

[young swan]

madox

[slim coral]

@smoky vale

[young swan]

i wanna know if he found the real tech or the fake tech

[slim coral]

Anyways bed time

[smoky vale]

@gleaming siren xddddd

[wind canopy]

i shudder to think where arms is on that list lol

[smoky vale]

above aug

[wind canopy]

well.

i'd hope so hahaha

[smoky vale]

thats not saying much

[wind canopy]

very true

[dense fulcrum]

can u link in dm pls?

[smoky vale]

#fury message

[fading sky]

Arms so far down cant c

[gleaming siren]

Wat

[opal tapir]

Which fiber are we taking?

assuming haste

[raw bone]

the guides say vers

[olive wraith]

Sim angle

[radiant plank]

Vers is good default

[young swan]

i took mastery

[olive wraith]

First few weeks your stats will be bouncing all over. Pick one

[smoky vale]

xan

whats the secret

[olive wraith]

You reflect something

[fading sky]

Versa always decent i guess

[young swan]

wont be saying it

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-gif-14665964756427917240

[young swan]

u already got a big hint

[jolly parrot]

elvui working lovely again

[silk wharf]

You can get new vet track weapons from vision vendor if you do 5 mask. If you get really unlucky and dont mind farming the stones.

[quiet breach]

I took mastery cuz idgaf

can change it whenever

once I sim stuff later

[pure echo]

Is the new cloak ilvl account wide or do I need to upgrade each one on an alt to the weekly max?

[young swan]

is there an update?

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/power-rangers-mighty-morphin-power-rangers-gif-18003522

[fickle cedar]

you can download the dev version, fixed the issues for me (until they release an official one)

[young swan]

any linkies?

[reef summit]

Which one i can choose for Fury : Haste or MAstery ?

[jolly parrot]

vers

[reef summit]

It's a Joke ?

[jolly parrot]

nope

or sism urself

[molten wing]

the BIS portion of the guide on wowhead says Vers

[sullen dove]

need to do this b4 they patch it

[reef summit]

where i can find on wowhead ?

[sullen dove]

have to grind up to t11 tho u said yea

eugh

[young swan]

yeah

[indigo arch]

dang, seeming like even before tier thane is smoking slayer in every sim minus st

[young swan]

its not bad

[indigo arch]

was hoping for some weird pre tier memes

missed spinning

[sullen dove]

what r u concerned about spinning in

its m0 week

play whatever

[indigo arch]

nvm the content this week is 0s

slayer prob does more

just due to packs melting

[molten wing]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/bis-gear

[indigo arch]

Anyone know how to fix these dumb sparkles at bottom of screen?

I log on and am assaulted with uwu sparkle animation

[fickle cedar]

i dont know if i can link it here, its on the tukui server in support https://discord.com/invite/xFWcfgE

[young swan]

epic ty

[indigo arch]

oh shit, prot changes

gimme those rng ravagers

aoe execute is such a weird thing to read

as tank

god, almost makes me wanna play it

[young swan]

were u living in a hole for the past 2 months?

[indigo arch]

No I seen them back then

it's just wild to actually get to try it out now (didn't fk with ptr playing)

[sour tundra]

how the heck do you not get pulled in on Nexus princess Ky'veza

delve boss

[woven valley]

You put the circle so you’re evenly surrounded so they all pull you away from each other therefore not moving you at all

[snow flower]

Same rules as her raid fight in Nerubar

[sullen dove]

which is the easiest delve to get up to t11 with

[fast mural]

Fungal folly

[trail thunder]

ive heard somebdoy say that with the new 4set the apl changes to basically never use bloodthirst on slayer? i assume thats fake news? as the "use when 85% crit" logic didnt change in the wowhead guide

[median marsh]

what should i do now?

[young swan]

i spammed sidestreet sluice

[silk wharf]

yea, so easy.

Just pop off the left side after the first door.

[sullen dove]

relog maybe

idk bout this sluice thing

the finding the 7 workers is kinda ass

with half the instance being electrified and ton of elites

[still raft]

does the ara kara last boss heroic leap still work or did that get removed ever

[junior gale]

Still works

[silk wharf]

Clear the first field, to turn on the objective, then turn left immediately so you don't fight the spider and hop off. Just proceed forward freeing the 4 workers then hop off the edge to the last area. There are 3 more there.

1 slightly up, 1 under the stairs and one on the far end of the bosses area.

[still raft]

word tyty

[lyric thistle]

what reshii wraps gem we choosing with our reshii cloak?
❤️

[molten wing]

vers

but i'm pretty sure you can also sim it

[lyric thistle]

oh true

[limber oar]

Wrong, BT even with guaranteed crit is still worse than raging blow with 4set

Wowhead isnt fully updated, as per Archi’s recent post

[smoky vale]

@young swan where is kyvessuzy

[pure echo]

Anyone know why world boss not showing?

is there something specific you need to do to unlock it after doing the cloak quest?

[karmic fiber]

I saw champions spear was the talent choice in m+ thane now, is there a big difference between roar and spear atm?

[trail thunder]

ah, ok

[trail thunder]

so you literally only press it if there is nothing else to press

[limber oar]

Correct

With 4 set

[trail thunder]

does that change in Aoe/thane?

[trail thunder]

well, might as well start building muscle memory now

[limber oar]

Thane you press bt on cd

[trail thunder]

do i press BT in cleave on slayer?

[limber oar]

Like slayer m+?

[trail thunder]

no like, slayer on a cleave boss

[limber oar]

Idk for sure but i imagine not

Would need to see the app for that but i cba rn