#fury

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crystal musk
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Is it possible to do duskthread lining on a ring or neck? I don't see the option when recrafting

crystal musk
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thank you

sullen dove
spare steppe
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what's the reason for holding coffer keys week 1?

chilly fractal
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Iirc they won’t drop week 1

sullen dove
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and if they do you likely can’t do the max level delve for the best loot with it

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psure that’s how last 2 seasons went

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but could be willingly spreading misinformation

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@young swan I’m sorry for your loss

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playing wow in 2025 🥀

young swan
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yeah

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need crests

tepid cedar
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xans really playing p*rnhub

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thats a front

sullen dove
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yo anyone compile all the changes that don’t include tier set tomorrow need to know which spec to play on week 47 of Mickey Mouse raid to finish mounts for guild

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mostly like does fury clap arms on mugzee now unsure

tepid cedar
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nothing changes

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except more bladestorm damage

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anbd 5% more overall

winter shoal
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So just a sim angle

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simc will be updated with new spell data and all that tomorrow I think

slim coral
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for the season start week

earnest canyon
slim coral
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brother

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ain't no way

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Also sus clan tag

olive wraith
slim coral
edgy widget
dusky moon
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oi

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bazed

dusky moon
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wasnt it a warrior

winter shoal
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My details name rn is coom of amascut

dusky moon
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who suggested a checklist

earnest canyon
dusky moon
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I literally just made this in like 15 minutes, can one of you tell me if it even works

winter shoal
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Yuh

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Seems like it does

dusky moon
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someone annoyed me

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I thought it was someone here

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to make one of these

slim coral
dusky moon
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was it you bazed because for some reason I thought it was

slim coral
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I did not ask you to make it but it looks sick

dusky moon
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idk about sick lmao

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its so basic

young swan
dusky moon
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xantaga has a super sus guild tag

slim coral
young swan
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need to craft some shit

raw magnet
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If we are really lucky

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Pure headcanon

raw magnet
dusky moon
raw magnet
dusky moon
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yes

raw magnet
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rip

dusky moon
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also cannot level up delver's journey

raw magnet
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Well at least I can get the achievements over with

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and unlock delve 11's

spare steppe
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rip

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good to know, didn't realize you couldnt get them week 1

midnight sierra
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Are we just sending SD procs when they’re up with the tier set next season

brittle crow
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it's prob obvious and im dum

slim coral
dusky moon
brittle crow
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yea

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in 1 slot

midnight sierra
dusky moon
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Because you have 30 gilded crests floating after crafting an item

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So upgrade that myth piece you got from raid

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you'll upgrade it to 723 the next week

slim coral
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warriors don't get to craft

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blizz hates us

dusky moon
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warriors will have 90 floating gilded crests

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so upgrade it to 723

brittle crow
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myth piece from raid?

chilly fractal
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Don’t over think it

dusky moon
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there's a new raid coming out called Manaforged Omega

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It will have items on the mythic track if you kill bosses on mythic difficulty

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(forgot I was in the warrior discord mb)

spare steppe
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uh

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what if you cant kill a mythic boss week 1

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do you just curl up and cry?

dusky moon
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bruhhhhhhhhh

spare steppe
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(dont worry im kidding I read it)

dusky moon
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uh huh

winter shoal
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Hi Lapras, if I get 1/6 hero piece from vault I spend all of my gilded crests on it right?

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I think I read that in Maid's gearing guide

limber oar
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do we need to do 8 t8 delves tomorrow btw

dusky moon
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someone kick bowl

dusky moon
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it will be your best s3 vault

winter shoal
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t8s can drop champ tier gear but not next week right

tepid cedar
winter shoal
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They can for the vault that opens the 12th?

dusky moon
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t8 vaults give your only shot of hero tier from vault when raid comes out on the 12th

winter shoal
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They also give you a shot at one of a handful of very bad trinkets 👀

slim coral
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W trinkets

oblique thistle
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Energy drink peepo

dusky moon
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energy drink died

winter shoal
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Sussy drink died

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Odium died

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Void fragment died

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Cursed stone idol pretty much died

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Arms died

covert coyote
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Love how the dev notes for prot in the patch notes is more than the entirety of fury changes. It then goes on for 2 more pages

dusky moon
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is the fury sadboy convention starting again

winter shoal
hollow leaf
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Did they nerf cursed idol or something?

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Could've sworn it was good

thick fossil
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Yes

hollow leaf
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That makes sense

winter shoal
thick fossil
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Fun was detected

winter shoal
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they just buffed the on-hit damage of it the other day but it's still not great

indigo arch
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Direct damage trinkets are often so great

hollow leaf
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Hey don't diss mark of dargrul like that

winter shoal
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But they only buffed the damage, not the crit

lyric ether
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Do we swap to new ST build after new tier set or after patch?

olive wraith
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Did anything change?

lyric ether
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Looks like, in general, we're dropping 2 points in vicious contempt and putting them in unbridled and 1 critical thinking.
Swapping brutal finish to opportunist as well

young swan
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dont swap until you get tier

lyric ether
young swan
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probably at 2-set?

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idk

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that'll be a sim yourself angle

lyric ether
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fair enough

indigo arch
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Wish season started Tuesday

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Fuck timegate, gimme the damn tier access so I can go back fury already

olive wraith
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Ww/bs buffs

red berry
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imo at this point of our tuning I felt like I was doing more with the meme loboz build in keys

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I gave up trying to climb awhile ago but it was still good in 15/16s

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I didn’t feel like I was throwing

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and it’ll probably be pretty strong until tier yeah

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but goddamn if the mountain thane tierset doesn’t do so much work. excited

raw magnet
edgy widget
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Better burst, but less sustain, so it kinda depends on how you're pulling and how hard you're steamrolling +0s

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at the same time, they're just +0s, so who cares

plush bluff
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’Twas the night before 11.2, and across every raid,
The comps were assembled — the invites were made.
Casters were stacked, melee kept light,
No warriors in sight… yeah, that tracks right.

The shouts had grown hollow, the rage stacks ran dry,
While warriors stood silent, just asking “but why?”
They tossed us 5% — a pity buff patch,
Like duct taping wounds in a balancing match.

The Arms folks had rend, and Prot had its taunt,
But Fury? Just copium and a capped damage haunt.
“Bring Battle Shout,” they said — “for the buff, not the man,”
Then benched us for Hunters — as per the plan.

We whirlwind like toddlers with pool noodles drawn,
While the raid burns in voidflame and Hero Talents spawn.
Our cleave? Decorative. Our burst? A joke.
Our tier set? Bugged and held together with hope.

We stood at the gates of Manaforge’s keep,
Watching the raid while we queued solo Deep.
No utility, no niche, no reason, no pride,
Just an empty rotation and pain deep inside.

So the warriors they wept, a Battle Shout sob,
Begging the devs: “Please finish the job.”
But 11.2 dropped, and nothing had changed,
Just a fury of nothing — ignored, estranged.

So if you hear wailing while K’aresh storms the land,
It’s not ghosts, it’s Fury — blade in hand.
Crying out loud with each weak little swing,
Dreaming of buffs that Blizzard won’t bring.

pearl sequoia
dapper goblet
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lets get a ban on that guy

proven stream
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Too much words

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I'm wario

eternal lance
hushed gust
olive wraith
covert blaze
indigo arch
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I'm hoping for a full sweep though, I tolerated arms in s2

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Big cleaves and demolish with no tank or mechanic trolling was fun, but overall felt jank especially after being spoiled for years with fury and having everything just be omnidirectional

hushed gust
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i'm definitelly gonna dick around with it at the very least. if it feels busty enough, i'll be happy.

indigo arch
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I'm certainly hopeful, the last time I truly liked arms was mop

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Every time i've been arms has been groanworthy since

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even if arms was vaguely fun at times (vectis adds in bfa s1 etc)

sonic finch
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Moo

indigo arch
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nyes?

sonic finch
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Moo moo

indigo arch
dusky moon
indigo arch
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Didn't give arms much of a chance

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Pve and pvp loved fury

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fury warrior with prydaz+mannoroth wrists with antorus 4pc and the riftworld codex tank trinket= killing 5 man groups ez in wpvp

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literal tank spec

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only thing that could fight that shit is will of valeera rogue

brittle crow
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am i supposed to play thane before tier?

junior gale
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play whatever you want before tier

brittle crow
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:3

turbid bay
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Any updates on bis trinkets next patch after changes appears to be sacbrood and antenna 2 passive trinks?

turbid bay
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Yeah i had a look just weird its mostly passive trinks after nerfs to idol. Imagine idols still good in m+

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Was interested if any good onuse outside of this for damage amp phases in raid

indigo arch
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at least the non sacbrood "good" trinket is off 2nd boss

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might be lazy enough for m+ only folks to snag

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unlike s2 of "find a group to do one armed lmao"

smoky vale
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@sudden tusk am i safe at 3805.5

sudden tusk
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idk

cobalt relic
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@smoky vale u can do it buddy!

smoky vale
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or

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is it reset

sudden tusk
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no idea ive heard both ways

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completely up to whatever blizzard does

indigo arch
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who knows what they're doing, they shut off the portals a bit ago to dungeons

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was able to manually head to/port to workshop earlier

dry talon
exotic remnant
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that's an agi/int trinket

turbid bay
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Seems like meh trinks no real good 1 min 30 trinks

warm crag
smoky vale
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above by like .81

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🙂

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number on raiderio keeps going up

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but no one knows if its done

warm crag
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I sure hope yellow skyholdians dont buy more boosts to push you out of range

tight roost
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Fury Warrior guide on wowhead states slayer and colossus under the overall bis tab

oblique trail
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Typo, the actual gear should be right

tight roost
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I know just typo report

oblique trail
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It will be mine

compact siren
sullen dove
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madox for yellow

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only real one

smoky vale
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anda

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swordish

clever belfry
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i was yellow before u were born

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but i stopped playing in SL and i got rly sick and tired of getting the "can u help me" without any info on what they need help on dm

smoky vale
clever belfry
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"can i ask you a question" is also a good one

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you already did holy fuck

undone flower
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help me yellow anda I’m stuck

clever belfry
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explode.

sudden tusk
# clever belfry "can i ask you a question" is also a good one

hello sir i have a question when you attack with your weapon does it matter if it is a sword or mace i saw my favorite streamer using two swords instead of maces and i do less damage them him so i feel like swords being more aerodynamic must make them hit faster if you could let me know what the best swords are that would be great also do you have any tips for whem im at 100 rage with 1 raging blow charge and 1.5 seconds left on my next raging blow charge and bloodthirst is up should i rampage or will i waste raging blow charges appriciate the help

sullen dove
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this is why madox yellow

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acquires title every season through legitimate means

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helpful and influential figure in the skyhold community

clever belfry
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🙏

sullen dove
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grandmaster overwatch player

flat river
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Most influential person here

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Also gets every title (including pvp one) every season legitimately

sudden tusk
sullen dove
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the objective anime list fiasco already puts you on like roidstack tier

sudden tusk
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i got put into chat gpt

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a guildy did it

sullen dove
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real news

oblique trail
clever belfry
sudden tusk
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we hate ai

warm crag
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Shouldve pinned the 3% nerf picture

modest hollow
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new buffs is live now?

sullen dove
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na

compact siren
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Galastronk for yellow

raw magnet
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Apparently you can sell the matrixes for gold

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gilded matrix/runic matrix(heroic one)

flat river
raw magnet
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50 gold each

high sedge
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but at the end of season you already get gold for your crests no?

indigo arch
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2 weapons on back again, the end of an era

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ungabunga is NOW.

raw magnet
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But if you do forget about what i said

indigo arch
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Don't forget to craft your 2nd embel off of cloak if it's there

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recraft*

high sedge
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sitting at 3k gilded atm lmao

raw magnet
indigo arch
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wonder if the standard slayer m+ spec will outperform pre tier thane

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wish it was s3 already so I could sim this shit

warm crag
clever belfry
raw magnet
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What i do wrong sadge

clever belfry
raw magnet
clever belfry
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google ai is wrong then

raw magnet
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As does Webster online

indigo arch
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all I remember is thane

bitter palm
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reck ava roar bladestorm

indigo arch
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I presume it's just reck+avatar-charge-rampage-bladestorm or smth

bitter palm
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spam rb

indigo arch
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ah

wary smelt
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do we swap to new M+ talents when we get the new tier set? or can we swap with the patch release today?

indigo arch
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I'd wager s2 thane talents until tier

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(or slayer, who knows depending on sim)

wary smelt
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kinda what I was figuring but ya never know...

lyric panther
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Is it worth crafting a nerubian bracer now to use when I can craft an ascension weapon in S3?

restive peak
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Can prob play whatever you want this week and it barely matters

last sparrow
smoky vale
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@sullen dove erupt

smoky vale
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whats a question

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whats a meow

clever belfry
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i just know pde

warm crag
clever belfry
indigo arch
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I'm correct in assuming execute isn't pressed in aoe as slayer unless literally nothing else is pressable, even with 3 stack right? (live)

smoky vale
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@clever belfry blow up?

clever belfry
red sentinel
indigo arch
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well, unless VERY unlucky

plush zephyr
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Servers will be live 6est-ish ya?

red sentinel
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not what I said but sure

indigo arch
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oh, i'm reading the writeup, I know what you mean

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solid 200k increase on 5tar dummy, rad

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even if vicious contempt is skewing it

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wish they had target dummies that stayed at 100%

spare steppe
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Anyone know if m0 are still a daily lockout? Wowhead article is saying they’re weekly

indigo arch
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I read weekly as well

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On one hand glad for it for my sanity, other hand fuckkkkkkkk

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sooner I can ditch h track house of cards the better

last sparrow
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think they swapped to weekly when they got bumped up to what a m10 was

indigo arch
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and get a second 684+ 2h

spare steppe
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And yeah I got lucky and we killed bandit last week, got to replace my heroic hoc

low folio
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i hope they dont make the turbo boost event a new regular thing

indigo arch
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Same

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They can shove "seasonal item" patches up their ass too

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belts, rings, any of it

low folio
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took a month break right before the turbo boost and came back to find out im like over 10 ilvls behind the new max ilvl

indigo arch
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all patches to keep ppl subbed til next season

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instead of working on getting the season out faster

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the curios being a regular thing can stay though

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or chips, w/e

earnest canyon
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I just noticed for the first time that NA server restarts arent super early in the morning/late at night like EU, but in the middle of the day

indigo arch
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wouldn't have minded crests being warbound turbo late in a season when it doesn't matter, too

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YEP.

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10am-6pm

earnest canyon
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that sucks

indigo arch
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working nights sucks all the more for it

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a few hours into work and knowing ppl are gonna be pushing

earnest canyon
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I can see why, because the engineers are in the NA office in case anything goes wrong

indigo arch
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while my ass is at work

low folio
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i work night, normally the reset ends at like 9 am for me but the seasonal resets do suck ass

earnest canyon
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yeah makes sense Moo

low folio
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but if i worked day shift, that would be a great time for the reset

indigo arch
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wish there were ppl pushing 17-18 range keys from 2am onward, oh well

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an even 3500 io would have been neat

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3447, ick

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only ppl after 3k for ksl or r1 it seems

low folio
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ya i got to like 3100 and just stopped playing this season right before turbo boost

indigo arch
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came back turbo late from playing alts when mad at having to play arms, decided still want warrior io too fking late

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3k to 3447, zzzzzz

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Bleh, fuck it. Nobody listing keys.

thick fossil
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It's in the post season, so the last week doesn't matter.

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I hit resil 15 about 2 months ago, then stopped pushing. Resil keys just make it dumb.

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The amount of sales has been criminal.

earnest canyon
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it's pointless getting coffer keys right? because they are clearly under "Season 2" in the char tab?

spare steppe
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Yes

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Unless you enjoy running delves for fun

earnest canyon
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I liked them when I was WFH cos Brann is the only friend I have, but yeah, no reason to do them now

cobalt relic
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@indigo arch what time

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Europe

earnest canyon
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Isn't that just brann when he goes super saiyan?

chilly fractal
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I’m sure he could if he wanted to

flat river
restive peak
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Holy fuck I can't wait to log in at 8pm to shaky servers bois

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WE HYPED

chilly fractal
chilly fractal
clever path
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Can’t wait to get home from work, to experience peak server lag, and 30 ppl camping mobs doing the campaign

restive peak
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We're doing 1 last gally kill tn so I may have that headache haha

clever path
exotic remnant
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is there any spreadsheet floating around with the % gains of every tier set for all classes ?

restive peak
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There's gonna be more tuning today and next Tues, wouldn't stress any of that shit yet

chilly fractal
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There’s even going to be tuning the moment you get 2p and again when you get 4p… fury just gonna get nerfed just cuz

thick fossil
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Fury will get nerfed because they're trying to nerf Prot.

restive peak
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Yeah it's almost a guarantee fury is gonna catch a stray

carmine hawk
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why we playing spear over roar?

restive peak
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Roar is dogwater weak basically

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So is spear

thick fossil
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Cause neither really matter for their own dps, and spear bumps crit for the rest of the kit.

carmine hawk
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🙁

radiant plank
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neither

thick fossil
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Blizzard's wonderful design, means we don't even talent our strong signature ability.

restive peak
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Alright so cloak > m0s > delves to t8 is week 1

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Easiest shit ever

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Boring

thick fossil
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Yup, degen shit after if you really want to. Like unlock t11 delves.

restive peak
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Rather jump off a bridge

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xD

thick fossil
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Lol

restive peak
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Gonna get it done and then afk til next Tues 😛

thick fossil
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I find out if I'm stuck being raid tank or not tonight.

restive peak
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We pray for you

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May the 2hers find you monkahmm

woven valley
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I assume tonight is the night I learn again I will be a fury warrior

dense elbow
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For like a week, before you are told to roll a real DPS class

radiant plank
molten wing
brittle crow
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not looking forward to prot warrior nerfing us

chilly fractal
restive peak
radiant plank
dense elbow
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Can't wait to get nerfed cause m0 data okayge

chilly fractal
radiant plank
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.xD

molten wing
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pretty sure its not how that works

chilly fractal
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Too many people on Zenith in my guild… more than me is too many

restive peak
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Well we def won't eat nerfs cuz of m0 we're gonna suck this week lol

dense elbow
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Ya guys underestimate the power of buffed bladestorm Chadstorm

woven valley
molten wing
dense elbow
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That poor poor team sadge

restive peak
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We want to suck this week btw

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Lol

molten wing
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assignment understood , will do m0s with half of gear unequipped/broken

dense elbow
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Won't help, things still going to die within bladestorm

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Enjoy this 1 week of having power, you won't see it again till next expansion week1

chilly fractal
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Need that ilvl injection straight into my veins

cobalt relic
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whens patch

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for EU

chilly fractal
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Tomorrow

cobalt relic
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what time I mean

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brother mobbo

chilly fractal
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Idk that I only chimed in because nobody said anything

cobalt relic
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gg

orchid dagger
cobalt relic
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I will haunt you

radiant plank
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like 7am

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maybe 6

cobalt relic
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tyty

pure gust
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So is the plan that we go into M0 and do our best to be outdpsed by the tank slightly or will that be too obvious?

chilly fractal
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The plan is just put someone on follow and go afk

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Let gear get mailed to you

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So nobody asks you for shit

dusky moon
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Warrior sandbag activate

cobalt relic
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gg

dense elbow
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I see no point to xandbag

We gonna get nerfed either way, cause dev hates us. This is known.

So just enjoy this one week of power

orchid dagger
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Yeah, then reroll FDK lol

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Because God knows Thane will be nerfed into the dirt

woven valley
dense elbow
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Would be hard not to, Warrior can live standing in fire

cobalt relic
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do we believe that

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or sandbag MODE

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TELL ME THE TRUTH

orchid dagger
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But it's going to get dick smacked

cobalt relic
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SO WE SUFFFER FROM THAT

chilly fractal
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Whose dick ours or blizzard

cobalt relic
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IS WHAT U TRYING TO SAY

orchid dagger
cobalt relic
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GG

dense elbow
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You will get to enjoy RWF period tho

chilly fractal
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Damn

dense elbow
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So dont worry

orchid dagger
cobalt relic
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wtf?

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racist

sullen rune
dense elbow
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True and real, real and true

restive peak
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I think the fact that Funky thinks we're even going to get to tier before the nerf cute

orchid dagger
cobalt relic
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ggwp

restive peak
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Further highlighting if you love OF, your brain is a bit behind but you got good intentions okayge

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LOVEYOUFUNKY

midnight sierra
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we are getting buffs

restive peak
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Sure we are big guy

midnight sierra
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I saw it in my dream

dense elbow
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Lincc never reads what I write

restive peak
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You said 1 week of power

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We will suck this week lmao, be good w tier, which we won't get before the nerfs big dog

orchid dagger
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^

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Big sadgers

dense elbow
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Nah, we peek w1

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Just you wait and see

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Bladestorm goes burrr

sullen rune
dense elbow
midnight sierra
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what are we peeking at

orchid dagger
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Class Changes
• Woyer
• Reroll

midnight sierra
radiant plank
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Thane aint doing any dmg before 4pc anyway

dense elbow
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Bladestorm

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Goes

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Burrrrr

orchid dagger
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Prot passive Ravagers go brr

dense elbow
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Imagine if they Nerf ravager baseline cause of it

orchid dagger
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Going to try to push for 2400 early before we get dicksmacked into unplayability

dense elbow
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You can't get 2.4k tho, first month ya usually capped to what 2k, before you get 1 CR a win and lose 200

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I hate that part of PvP so much

orchid dagger
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Depends on bracket, but yeah

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Idk, I just don't think Fury/Prot is going to stay anywhere near decent between now and season start

dense elbow
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Ya get w1, then it is all downhill till next expansion

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Hf

winter shoal
orchid dagger
dense elbow
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Traitor

orchid dagger
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Kek

winter shoal
dusky moon
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Lmao

dense elbow
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Not enough keychain rattling, I lost attention after 20 sec

winter shoal
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Fury warriors trying to count to 4 for ww stacks and getting distracted halfway through

thick fossil
#

And still hitting whirlwind. Lol

dense elbow
#

When in doubt press we twice

tepid cedar
#

not really fury related. but this shit is super impressive

winter shoal
#

Funky I need the tech, what do I play in m0s this week

thick fossil
#

Oh?

tepid cedar
#

i been fuckign with AI and diff way to bypass enhancement son pictures and stuff

thick fossil
#

Ooh

fading sky
dense elbow
tepid cedar
#

this was a initial picture of my player model i asked it to do its shit

#

and this is with enhancements

tepid cedar
#

like AI is fucking insane lol

fading sky
#

☘️

#

Hear me out

winter shoal
#

AI has legitimate use cases, and for small-scale things that aren't being marketed like that, I think there's no real concerns. There are massive moral and ethical concerns with monetization of AI-generated work though, and also learned helplessness from chat bots and AI assistants

fading sky
#

Remove roar replace with of

dense elbow
young swan
tepid cedar
carmine hawk
#

Will there be much rotation change in 11.2 or am I fine "learning" it now?

young swan
#

nah not much

thick fossil
#

Slayer is still RB spam.
Thane mixes it up, with a lot of thunder blast procs

young swan
#

both thane and slayer take their respective rotation and lean into them more so you should be good

brittle crow
#

won't b playing thane after it's obliterated in tuning

#

we r going to pay for prots sins

fading sky
dense elbow
winter shoal
winter shoal
#

There's a very dangerous outcome from things like that that I affectionately refer to as borrowing a chainsaw

#

e.g. if your neighbor asks you to borrow your chainsaw, and you say "sure, what for?" and they say they locked themselves out and they need to chainsaw through their front door. Like that works, but it's not the right tool for the job, and that solution only makes sense in the absence of context

#

And AI is a big fan of handing out chainsaws because it doesn't know your (complete) context

dense elbow
#

Well, AI in this case would likely ask, why use a chainsaw

orchid dagger
#

No it wouldn't

#

AI is warriorbrain

restive peak
#

AI legit makes you stupider the more you use it

#

As in scientifically that's the outcome they've observed in every study ever

#

Not 1 person finished with a higher or even equivalent IQ in any study

#

Stop using AI for problem solving lol

orchid dagger
#

It doesn't even help with fact finding either

winter shoal
whole remnant
#

Boys go to jupiter to get more stupider

dense elbow
#

It is not solving the problem tho, but I presume context has been lost long ago

chilly fractal
#

AI Big Foot videos are pretty solid

winter shoal
#

Not meant as an attack on you btw Funky, just a philosophical rhetorical question

brittle crow
#

ai is objectively useful considering that google search results suck ass sometimes

#

i don't want it to be the case but it is

whole remnant
#

90% of my ai usages are make this email more formal ok no a little more casual thanks

dense elbow
winter shoal
#

That's fair

brittle crow
#

same

orchid dagger
brittle crow
#

im not a fuckin hipster

orchid dagger
#

Google has been fucked for years

coarse nest
brittle crow
#

i only use yandex for finding anime girls

brittle crow
modest condor
#

saying that ai is useful because google sucks sometimes is like saying that eating shit off the floor is good because restaurants suck sometimes

winter shoal
coarse nest
#

I’m practically boomer I have yet to use AI

brittle crow
#

tbh

orchid dagger
#

Or just network with other people with a variety of talents

#

🤷‍♂️

winter shoal
orchid dagger
#

^

brittle crow
winter shoal
brittle crow
#

idgaf about validation i had a problem and the fix was stupid

winter shoal
#

(I'm just fucking with you)

brittle crow
winter shoal
#

If you validate the output and it's a small-scale non-commercial use I think there's close to 0 issues

#

But lots of things do not get validated, and/or are used on larger commercial scales

tepid cedar
winter shoal
#

Also presumably in that context you are aware enough of the complete set of information that you can identify chainsaws

brittle crow
#

just because it's bad doesn't mean i wouldn't do the same thing given the opportunity

orchid dagger
#

Commercial scales are only a problem because AI is dented as fuck

brittle crow
#

if i could get dumb rich off ai i would

#

my morals break down infront of the bag

winter shoal
brittle crow
#

it's the truth

winter shoal
#

The problem with commercialization and monetization is a moral concern around the theft of intellectual property

brittle crow
orchid dagger
winter shoal
#

And biases in training data

orchid dagger
#

I could take a shit and it would be more intelligent

brittle crow
#

ai is very smart at specific things

#

downplaying it is being a boomer

#

it IS the future and we WILL all be forced to engage at some point unfort

dense elbow
brittle crow
#

simple as

#

:3

orchid dagger
#

It's a fucking brainlet

#

If you aren't asking it googleable answers or basic math it's not helpful at all

#

And even the searchable answers are suspect as fuck

winter shoal
orchid dagger
dense elbow
#

I presume most don't, but LLMs are great for just browsing through huge amounts of documents and giving you a bullet list of points. Also great at finding missing portions and similar tasks.

brittle crow
#

they're also useful for making lists out of arbitrary garbage

orchid dagger
#

So something I could task a dent to do

brittle crow
#

aka my brain

dense elbow
#

Yep, but - it does it in 0.01% of the time

#

"AI" is efficent at what it actually does, how we use it as a tool is up to us

brittle crow
#

ppl really do ignore the fact that ai instantly does menial tasks

dense elbow
#

Man, I fear the day my phone and shit got forced "AI" on it... I want real AI, I take that. But this shit, nah.

brittle crow
#

but only because google assistant was assbad

dense elbow
#

Hey, I saw the AImodel that did describe things shown to the camera for a blind person

#

was a big W

#

I see Ai get a lot of hate, but honestly, as a tool it can do so much good too. Not its fault we going to use it stupidly or even for evil intent. It would be like blaming a hammer. It can build and destroy, after all. Heck it can even be gnawed on.

lapis shadow
thick fossil
#

I'm not sure I want any sort of AI.

#

I understand it has some good uses, but I don't think we should create AI.

tepid cedar
#

was lookign at initial FDK apl. def gona be a fun class to play ngl lol

dense elbow
restive peak
#

Yeah now that I'm not giving a fuck about being giga I'm gonna upkeep my DK, both frost and UH look fun

tepid cedar
brittle crow
#

im a radical

tepid cedar
#

so fkn simple too

lapis shadow
#

Warrior cord turning into DK cord 2.0 critcake

coarse nest
#

Lmao

tepid cedar
#

lol

coarse nest
#

It’s to slow for me personally

fading sky
#

I mean fury is ok // decent

coarse nest
#

I can’t get past that

fading sky
#

Nothing to say

tepid cedar
#

furfy is gonna be fine

#

compaared to this season

#

we are GIGA

fading sky
#

Yeah

#

Cant wait for new 4p

tepid cedar
#

we play it right, and we will do some dps finally

fading sky
#

🥰

#

M8, we cant get nerfed, until ppl get 4p

coarse nest
#

My brain is so conditioned to having leap and charge

fading sky
#

Damn rwf prot warriors gonna get fury dead

coarse nest
#

There’s no way I can accept DK slowness

fading sky
#

Ive heard lincc buys keys

restive peak
#

I'll be on warr 99% of the time haha

fading sky
#

🤣

restive peak
#

Why run a key when you can buy it amiright

dense elbow
#

That moment when you play DK, and notice - they are in fact faster at running around than Warrior is

restive peak
#

NGL, I'll leak

#

I have definitely bought 12s to afk while working for alts LOL

fading sky
#

100%

restive peak
#

But my guilds paid for those keks

dense elbow
#

I thank your guild Lincc

coarse nest
#

Bro just buy resil 20s why work for it on a schedule and give up wife time

dense elbow
#

Keep that up

coarse nest
restive peak
#

Nah I stepped too far down to have a guild pay anymore bruh D: RIP

#

Lincc is officially a retired boomer 6hr a week gamer now

dense elbow
#

Time to swipe swipe

#

echonomy gotta go round

coarse nest
#

Still HoF surely

restive peak
#

What happened this season with resil keys and sales was garbage

#

And I think blizz is happy cuz more tokens sold I'm sure

#

People were paying just to get INVITES for resils, that's dogshit

coarse nest
#

More RMT happening that’s why we got the post

fading sky
#

Resil keys rework, only works if all have keylvl done

indigo arch
restive peak
#

Ofc there is, the tokens aren't good value compared to the RMT

fading sky
#

400k oer token

restive peak
#

Whole party needs 18 = 19 is resil would be goated

#

Cuz then to get boosted you'd have to buy like 50 keys

winter shoal
restive peak
#

And noone can afford that

restive peak
coarse nest
winter shoal
#

Real

coarse nest
#

Helps teams progress

pulsar quest
#

Party resil defeats the purpose of them adding resil

coarse nest
#

And guts key sales

pulsar quest
#

They added it to increase people pugging their keys

restive peak
#

It would be the smartest way for resil

restive peak
#

Encourages team play and hurts sales

#

Win win

pulsar quest
#

If it’s only team resil nobody will ever list their key in lfg

#

I promise you

restive peak
#

The entire point of title keys is to be a team man

#

Like people wanna PUG HOF CE and it's wild

fading sky
pulsar quest
#

I pugged some of my best title keys this season

restive peak
#

It's like if you play CSGO, solo q and professional tournament games are legit a different game

#

And that's ok

pulsar quest
#

The phys comp community is pretty tight

#

And a lot of it is sharing keys with each other

restive peak
#

Hell even HOF raiding isn't even CLOSE to top 10 raiding etc

pulsar quest
#

Team keys would ruin that

coarse nest
#

You can still pug Eddie just would need to vet people more to make sure it’s resil for everyone

orchid dagger
restive peak
#

Well no it wouldn't, because you'd be keeping up w friends

#

It doesn't have to be the same 5

#

Just all 5 need to have timed it on 18

#

All it would hurt is sales

#

Both my 19s this season weren't resil, we just timed it lol

#

Watching some of these people run their 19 priory for 8 hrs trying to boost the bad player as they learn each pull

#

Just made me sad for them

coarse nest
#

The only negative I see with that idea is people would invite someone to the resil 18 and then once it’s a 19 they wouldn’t give that person a shot at it they would boot them and invite someone who’s done a 19 already

restive peak
#

And I promise you in past seasons they just wouldn't sell to that player

restive peak
#

They'd waste 2-3 keys and go "sorry, this won't work"

pulsar quest
#

My best keys weren’t resil either, but some of them were other people’s keys they definitely wouldn’t have ran if they didn’t know that we could push it back up if we failed

restive peak
#

If you can run a 19 odds are you have all 17s timed for example though

pulsar quest
#

And also, resil keys are still very hard to time for title keys

restive peak
#

So I'm saying resil goes UP 1 level as a tradeoff

pulsar quest
#

Like my 20 top was resil but it took 7 tries still

restive peak
#

To not being 1 person has it = good for all 5

pulsar quest
#

And it was very tight

lapis shadow
#

Just get 3K score and go play RuneScape like I do - problem = solved

restive peak
#

So if your whole team has 18 ML done, any 19 ML you guys have would be resil

pulsar quest
#

The best case scenario for resil is to do charges

#

3 charges for a key then it depletes and is replenished when you complete

restive peak
#

That could also work but still encourage sales more

#

Sales this season are giga high compared to a normal season

pulsar quest
#

There will always be sales

#

You can’t do anything about sales

restive peak
#

I've talked to some of the peeps I know who still actively sell a lot and they said it's like 4-5x what it's been the past 5 or so tiers

coarse nest
#

They should do everything they can think of to gut boosting

fading sky
#

U can

restive peak
#

No but we can certainly do things to make it less attractive

pulsar quest
#

Why would they

#

They make money off it

restive peak
#

Resil keys made it MORE attractive

pulsar quest
#

You know how many people bought tokens to ge boosted lol

orchid dagger
#

^

restive peak
#

Yeah I know I already said that, blizz is happy

coarse nest
#

I don’t understand why people are not giga bothered by the fact that all your achievements in this game are completely invalidated by a loser with a credit card

restive peak
#

Doesn't mean it's good for the health of the game lol

coarse nest
#

That is so annoying to me

orchid dagger
#

To a lesser extent BGB as well

restive peak
#

I mean at least in say BGB

#

If you're a healer trying to boost DPSers

#

And you lose 5 in a row

coarse nest
#

To be fair I have milked gold from boosting myself so I guess I’m sort of a hypocrite I get it but it’s still so annoying to me I’d rather it not exist as much

restive peak
#

That sale ain't goin well and prob won't happen

#

Resil keys = let's just beat our heads off this wall til this idiot RNGs his way into getting it right

pulsar quest
#

It’s lame but it’s not changing

orchid dagger
#

In BGB you have 6 warriorbrain that can fuck you over regardless

restive peak
#

Ye I know it won't change, I just hate it

coarse nest
orchid dagger
#

You can't really carry a bg like that

low folio
#

i mean boosts have always existed anyways and its still just a game, get your enjoyment from knowing you got it yourself and are the one good enough to boost

restive peak
#

Exactly

pulsar quest
#

Also if somebody is buying a 20 title key they still have to be good enough to time it don’t forget this

restive peak
#

So BGB boosting doesn't really bother me

pulsar quest
#

You can get carried in a 17/18 still

restive peak
#

Well they used to, now they have to be good enough to be taught

pulsar quest
#

But a 20 you can’t get full carries

restive peak
#

Because you can resil it 20x in a row with them

#

Before if you bought a 20, and you giga tanked it pull 2

pulsar quest
#

No you’ll hit instance cap

coarse nest
#

Parsec exists

restive peak
#

They might try 1-2 more diff keys for you then call it

pulsar quest
#

Before they ever learn

coarse nest
#

Or whatever it’s called

restive peak
#

Ok how many can you run an hour? 5?

open prairie
#

i dont get why m+ titles are account wide

#

it just encourages fotm

restive peak
#

You spend the remaining 20m on attempt 5 teaching the person the pulls in the already tanked key

#

Then at the hour go reset

#

And yes, the sellers are doing this

pulsar quest
#

It doesn’t matter

low folio
#

if i got the title and didnt get it account wide, id be mad

restive peak
#

It does matter because the key used to drop lmao

orchid dagger
open prairie
#

i mean pvp r1 title

restive peak
#

SEVEN?!

pulsar quest
#

If you’ve done a 20 I promise you other than maybe a DFC at most

open prairie
#

is still character specific

restive peak
#

Bro you're barely ever gonna run into that

open prairie
#

not even class or spec

orchid dagger
restive peak
#

You're coming from your perspective

#

Yoda and them can teach a +15/16 person to do the ONE 20 they need across a 4-6 hr period

orchid dagger
restive peak
#

Purely because that persn just has to not be a complete bot

orchid dagger
#

Bigdam has like 20+ characters, 19 of them don't count

restive peak
#

Because they are so much better than you or I

low folio
#

ya but thats because pvp gets the mininum attention

open prairie
#

Yeah thats a flaw in that system

#

m+ should be limited to class

#

at least

orchid dagger
restive peak
#

Like I've done keys w plenty of great people and when you group with 1 of those top 20-30 guys, they will humble you badly

orchid dagger
#

Yeah, like that MDI where the giga pull the entire lower portion of Necrotic Wake

open prairie
#

then random pug tank tries it

orchid dagger
#

I may shit on pve players as a matter of course, but that does take skill

restive peak
#

Those guys can sell a 20 to a 15/16 level player if they have 10 attempts

open prairie
#

dies in 3 secs

#

and d/cs

dense elbow
#

I think most overestimate how much is required from a single player, and underestimate how much 4 pros can carry.

open prairie
#

i assume at a certain point

#

its charged by time

#

like it is with pvp

restive peak
#

There is a BIG diff between you and your 4 buddies who worked hard to get to a 20 vs those dudes, yeah

open prairie
#

resil is a good idea for teams who want to do a key together

#

but yeah them being on a person opens up more boosting

restive peak
#

Hence why I think it should be all 5 have 18 = can start 19

#

Honestly get rid of the fuckin keys in general

#

Make it a UI

#

Delves literally do this, they have the tech to do so

#

If I wanna take my 4 buddies and we've all done 18 FG and we wanna go for 19 FG all day we should be able to

#

BUT we shouldn't be able to have 1 guy have 19 FG carry us from 12 to 19 on unlimited attempts

#

IMO

dense elbow
#

Why not?

restive peak
#

Because it's the reason sales are 5x what they have been for title level keys lol

dense elbow
#

I had a ton of fun with friends just doing keys at a level they found more challenging as resi

restive peak
#

Hell man even China banned boosting because it's gotten so out of hand

dense elbow
#

I dont care if Title keys cost 100000x more

restive peak
#

But blizz can't enforce that

#

The cost

dense elbow
#

I just care about my playing experience

restive peak
#

That's community driven

dense elbow
#

and that cost doesnt affect me

#

at all

restive peak
#

Well you don't think you should be able to join your 2400 3v3 friend and go to glad instantly do you?

dense elbow
#

I mean, you basically would - with how MMR works

restive peak
#

You could queue into the 19 with them

#

But it wouldn't be resil because you don't have 18

#

So if you time it, sure you made the jump

#

But the ability to spam it? Nah

#

And no MMR does not work that way for 3v3 arena, your friends meet you in the middle within reason and you still gain 192 until 1200ish when it starts to drop a bit

dense elbow
#

I dont understand what you are trying to police here, what is the issue you are trying to solve?

restive peak
#

I'm not trying to police anything, although the iront

#

irony*

#

of you just saying "I'm not gonna have this convo because people come in guns blazing without reading the prior convo"

#

and that's what you're doing right now lol

dense elbow
#

What is the issue then, that ppl get to play 18s with their friends - that they can sell them?

restive peak
#

Scroll up 30 messages or so, we were having a conversation

restive peak
#

You could do the 18 still, it wouldn't be resil; yes I think being able to jump people 50x up is dogshit design in any game

wary smelt
#

Should champ spear get macroed with anything else?

dense elbow
#

I honestly dont dislike the concept of just playing with my friends, at the content we can do

restive peak
#

And I think the expirement was fine, but it's bad

#

If you can do it and it isn't resil

#

You'll time the 18 once the 19 drops

dense elbow
#

I had a ton of fun with it, so for me it just a positive experience overall

restive peak
#

And then be eligible for the 19s resil!

restive peak
wary smelt
#

makes sense ty

dense elbow
#

Noone can stop my reck,ava,pot,spear macro

restive peak
#

Lmao

#

Where OF FUNKY

#

WHERE OF

rare forum
#
  • racial
dense elbow
#

OF deserves its own button

tepid cedar
#

he dont use it anymore

#

he says he does

restive peak
#

Funky hates OF confirmed

dense elbow
#

what the fuck

junior oyster
#

0

restive peak
#

Wants it nerfed more confirmed

dense elbow
#

WHAT?! No!

#

MODS!

#

MOOOOODS!

restive peak
#

Yellow name confirmed

tepid cedar
#

funky dm'd me yesterday

dense elbow
#

Oh lawd

tepid cedar
#

said of is too stronk

#

and neeeded to be nerfed for fairness to other classes

restive peak
#

Yeah that checks out, sounds like Funky

restive peak
#

Owned

tepid cedar
#

something about, and i quote, " i want ethical damage"

restive peak
#

That's actually sad, poor pupper

#

And sounds even more like him, wow. Funky, haterade on standby

dense elbow
#

wadner good thing I know for a fact that WoW devs know my stance on things

dense elbow
restive peak
#

Wowww Funky abuses cats too also confirmed?!

thick fossil
#

Some patch, some tier, some expansion, it will be a Warrior meta. But it will not be this expansion.

midnight sierra
#

12.0 for sure we are meta

dense elbow
#

We are week1 meta, and week 1-4 meta as Pwarrior

midnight sierra
#

uncapped, thriving, flourishing

dense elbow
#

that is what we get

orchid dagger
#

+3 days if early access

midnight sierra
dense elbow
#

Week1 is ours!

midnight sierra
#

Hey we could be arms players

dense elbow
#

Oh oh oh, what does arms players say all the time...

#

oh right

#

"Just go and change spec, lol"

#

Arms trolls

radiant plank
#

Rent free @bitter palm

orchid dagger
dense elbow
#

You say that as if it is a bad thing

winter shoal
#

SMF actually isn't a massive dps loss next patch

#

CSHB sucks

#

No cantrip 2h

orchid dagger
#

I know, but now SMF is going to catch a bullet

dense elbow
orchid dagger
#

Do we have a cantrip 1h?

dense elbow
bitter palm
orchid dagger
winter shoal
#

wait

#

I'm cooked

tepid cedar
#

atleast we have more BS damage and 5% more aura this week

winter shoal
#

Someone ban me before I say more stupid things

orchid dagger
#

Wrong one lmao

tepid cedar
#

we gona be meta

dense elbow
#

That is what I keep telling ppl

#

week1 we giga

#

things die withing BS 100%

tepid cedar
#

fuck and i forgot we have 65% meatcleavewr too

chilly fractal
#

If enemies die while bladestorming reset the cooldown of bladestorm and increase movement speed by 70%

dense elbow
#

I just hope the rework makes our CDs static, so they are not balanced around CDR that just goes haywire. Turning an ability from silly weak, to a strong rotational global.

flat river
#

Storm of steel should be reworked to instead make you deal extra damage per target hit with bladestorm

#

So like

#

If it hits up to 5 targets each is 5% damage increase

#

Would be 25%

#

Big AoE buff

dense elbow
#

Wouldnt make up for the reap high roll

flat river
#

Yes but i mean

#

Storm of steel sucks ass

undone flower
#

You can’t change storm of steel, it is the talent holding our class

#

Warrior disappear without it

#

Almost 10 years it’s there

chilly fractal
#

Give Fury Colossus Smash again

low folio
#

should let the bt cleave during BS and ravager again

orchid dagger
chilly fractal
#

Until it’s removed from the game no man woman or child can sleep well

languid sage
#

Is it a significant damage loss to run Thunderous Roar + talents for M+ instead of Champion's Spear + talents?

young swan
#

u can full drop both and you only lose like 1%

radiant plank
#

Shrugeg

winter shoal
#

Show thane coward