#fury
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No
thank you
what's the reason for holding coffer keys week 1?
Iirc they won’t drop week 1
and if they do you likely can’t do the max level delve for the best loot with it
psure that’s how last 2 seasons went
but could be willingly spreading misinformation
@young swan I’m sorry for your loss
playing wow in 2025 🥀
yo anyone compile all the changes that don’t include tier set tomorrow need to know which spec to play on week 47 of Mickey Mouse raid to finish mounts for guild
mostly like does fury clap arms on mugzee now unsure
P sure arms didn't really change and slayer fury barely did
So just a sim angle
simc will be updated with new spell data and all that tomorrow I think
so you can get heroic track gear
for the season start week
Are you going to change your name to Bigbowels to celebrate the release of 11.2?
Don’t you get heroic from coffee keys next week?
not to my knowledge no
can't use coffer keys next week
Maybe on details
wasnt it a warrior
My details name rn is coom of amascut
who suggested a checklist
Fair
I literally just made this in like 15 minutes, can one of you tell me if it even works
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IJkqlCheq5HGeSZOgtCct2MqWJ_Eeim3ph8zRT47CLg/edit?gid=0#gid=0
oi
was it you bazed because for some reason I thought it was
I did not ask you to make it but it looks sick
logged out for 2 months
xantaga has a super sus guild tag
I mean you went out of you way to make it for someone who asked that's more than I'd do
need to craft some shit
Yeah, but might be able to get Princess Kyveza to spawn possibly
If we are really lucky
Pure headcanon
you cannot
Where there is a will there is a way
you cant get coffer keys week 1, i stg next season im going to remove the key reference
Did they explicitly say that she can't spawn week 1?
yes
rip
also cannot level up delver's journey
Are we just sending SD procs when they’re up with the tier set next season
no there are 3 conditions
how come you spend gilded on 717 week 2
it's prob obvious and im dum
You send SD to get to 5 AJ stacks, maintain 5 AJ stacks, send at 2 stacks of SD and 2 MFE stacks
from 710 to 717?
Got it so still use weak aura
Because you have 30 gilded crests floating after crafting an item
So upgrade that myth piece you got from raid
you'll upgrade it to 723 the next week
myth piece from raid?
Don’t over think it
there's a new raid coming out called Manaforged Omega
It will have items on the mythic track if you kill bosses on mythic difficulty
(forgot I was in the warrior discord mb)
(dont worry im kidding I read it)
uh huh
Hi Lapras, if I get 1/6 hero piece from vault I spend all of my gilded crests on it right?
I think I read that in Maid's gearing guide
do we need to do 8 t8 delves tomorrow btw
someone kick bowl
the week of August 5th, yes
it will be your best s3 vault
t8s can drop champ tier gear but not next week right
jsut to get some vault shit the following week
They can for the vault that opens the 12th?
t8 vaults give your only shot of hero tier from vault when raid comes out on the 12th
They also give you a shot at one of a handful of very bad trinkets 👀
W trinkets
Energy drink 
energy drink died
Sussy drink died
Odium died
Void fragment died
Cursed stone idol pretty much died
Arms died

Love how the dev notes for prot in the patch notes is more than the entirety of fury changes. It then goes on for 2 more pages
is the fury sadboy convention starting again
Me when the gif is wrong but also right
I think fury is pretty happy
Arms is
Yes
That makes sense
Shot it in the head a couple weeks back, went from like 28k crit to 8k or something
Fun was detected
they just buffed the on-hit damage of it the other day but it's still not great
Hey don't diss mark of dargrul like that
Well it still gives like 8 or 9k crit or whatever, it's not just damage
But they only buffed the damage, not the crit
Do we swap to new ST build after new tier set or after patch?
Did anything change?
Looks like, in general, we're dropping 2 points in vicious contempt and putting them in unbridled and 1 critical thinking.
Swapping brutal finish to opportunist as well
dont swap until you get tier
thanks, sounds like 4 set, yea?
fair enough
Wish season started Tuesday
Fuck timegate, gimme the damn tier access so I can go back fury already
Slayer might be pretty good until new tier
Ww/bs buffs
imo at this point of our tuning I felt like I was doing more with the meme loboz build in keys
I gave up trying to climb awhile ago but it was still good in 15/16s
I didn’t feel like I was throwing
and it’ll probably be pretty strong until tier yeah
but goddamn if the mountain thane tierset doesn’t do so much work. excited
Bladestorm is more fun than thunder blast
Better burst, but less sustain, so it kinda depends on how you're pulling and how hard you're steamrolling +0s
at the same time, they're just +0s, so who cares
’Twas the night before 11.2, and across every raid,
The comps were assembled — the invites were made.
Casters were stacked, melee kept light,
No warriors in sight… yeah, that tracks right.
The shouts had grown hollow, the rage stacks ran dry,
While warriors stood silent, just asking “but why?”
They tossed us 5% — a pity buff patch,
Like duct taping wounds in a balancing match.
The Arms folks had rend, and Prot had its taunt,
But Fury? Just copium and a capped damage haunt.
“Bring Battle Shout,” they said — “for the buff, not the man,”
Then benched us for Hunters — as per the plan.
We whirlwind like toddlers with pool noodles drawn,
While the raid burns in voidflame and Hero Talents spawn.
Our cleave? Decorative. Our burst? A joke.
Our tier set? Bugged and held together with hope.
We stood at the gates of Manaforge’s keep,
Watching the raid while we queued solo Deep.
No utility, no niche, no reason, no pride,
Just an empty rotation and pain deep inside.
So the warriors they wept, a Battle Shout sob,
Begging the devs: “Please finish the job.”
But 11.2 dropped, and nothing had changed,
Just a fury of nothing — ignored, estranged.
So if you hear wailing while K’aresh storms the land,
It’s not ghosts, it’s Fury — blade in hand.
Crying out loud with each weak little swing,
Dreaming of buffs that Blizzard won’t bring.

lets get a ban on that guy

my friend. bravo. screw you, but bravo XD
I disagree. But we all find different stiff fun
Arms needs this not fury
real
I'll certainly be simming st, 5tar 5mins, and 10tar 40s with and without lust, I hope to see fury at or near colossus arms for the 10tar sim, it's probably a given fury slayer m+ spec will hose colossus arms in st
I'm hoping for a full sweep though, I tolerated arms in s2
Big cleaves and demolish with no tank or mechanic trolling was fun, but overall felt jank especially after being spoiled for years with fury and having everything just be omnidirectional
i'm definitelly gonna dick around with it at the very least. if it feels busty enough, i'll be happy.
I'm certainly hopeful, the last time I truly liked arms was mop
Every time i've been arms has been groanworthy since
even if arms was vaguely fun at times (vectis adds in bfa s1 etc)
Moo
nyes?
Moo moo

@winter shoal what is wrong with you people
Legion?
I was fury and loving it then
Didn't give arms much of a chance
Pve and pvp loved fury
fury warrior with prydaz+mannoroth wrists with antorus 4pc and the riftworld codex tank trinket= killing 5 man groups ez in wpvp
literal tank spec
only thing that could fight that shit is will of valeera rogue
am i supposed to play thane before tier?
play whatever you want before tier
:3
👏
Any updates on bis trinkets next patch after changes appears to be sacbrood and antenna 2 passive trinks?
Wowhead has been updated
Yeah i had a look just weird its mostly passive trinks after nerfs to idol. Imagine idols still good in m+
Was interested if any good onuse outside of this for damage amp phases in raid
at least the non sacbrood "good" trinket is off 2nd boss
might be lazy enough for m+ only folks to snag
unlike s2 of "find a group to do one armed lmao"
@sudden tusk am i safe at 3805.5
who knows what they're doing, they shut off the portals a bit ago to dungeons
was able to manually head to/port to workshop earlier
There was one from new dungeon with mastery on use,but somehow no mentions about it in wowhead guide
that's an agi/int trinket
Seems like meh trinks no real good 1 min 30 trinks
Did you get top500 overwatch dps queue or did you get owned by boosters?
above by like .81
🙂
number on raiderio keeps going up
but no one knows if its done
I sure hope yellow skyholdians dont buy more boosts to push you out of range
Fury Warrior guide on wowhead states slayer and colossus under the overall bis tab
Typo, the actual gear should be right
I know just typo report
I've already ordered multiple boosts upon my return for me to acquire the title
It will be mine
@compact siren
need more vetting on these yellow swine
madox for yellow
only real one
bro
i was yellow before u were born
but i stopped playing in SL and i got rly sick and tired of getting the "can u help me" without any info on what they need help on dm

help me yellow anda I’m stuck
explode.
hello sir i have a question when you attack with your weapon does it matter if it is a sword or mace i saw my favorite streamer using two swords instead of maces and i do less damage them him so i feel like swords being more aerodynamic must make them hit faster if you could let me know what the best swords are that would be great also do you have any tips for whem im at 100 rage with 1 raging blow charge and 1.5 seconds left on my next raging blow charge and bloodthirst is up should i rampage or will i waste raging blow charges appriciate the help
true
this is why madox yellow
acquires title every season through legitimate means
helpful and influential figure in the skyhold community
🙏
grandmaster overwatch player
Galastronk for yellow
Most influential person here
Also gets every title (including pvp one) every season legitimately
the objective anime list fiasco already puts you on like roidstack tier
real news
muted
ai slop
we hate ai
Shouldve pinned the 3% nerf picture
new buffs is live now?
na
Galastronk for yellow
Real and true
50 gold each
but at the end of season you already get gold for your crests no?
No idea
But if you do forget about what i said
you used to but idk if convertion rate is the same
sitting at 3k gilded atm lmao
I think i converted 2k runed and gilded and i got 10k gold from the matrixes so I am satisfied
wonder if the standard slayer m+ spec will outperform pre tier thane
wish it was s3 already so I could sim this shit
@clever belfry Plural of matrix just dropped
matrixes have been multiplied
It might tbh
What i do wrong 
its matrices
Google ai says both are acceptable
google ai is wrong then
As does Webster online
Guess I better search for what the slayer m+ aoe opener is again, frick
all I remember is thane
reck ava roar bladestorm
I presume it's just reck+avatar-charge-rampage-bladestorm or smth
spam rb
ah
do we swap to new M+ talents when we get the new tier set? or can we swap with the patch release today?
kinda what I was figuring but ya never know...
Is it worth crafting a nerubian bracer now to use when I can craft an ascension weapon in S3?
Can prob play whatever you want this week and it barely matters
yes
my m0's must be optimum 😠
@sullen dove erupt
whats a dfe
whats a question
whats a meow
i just know pde
Odeez nuts
?
I'm correct in assuming execute isn't pressed in aoe as slayer unless literally nothing else is pressable, even with 3 stack right? (live)
@clever belfry blow up?
oki
you follow the same prio as ST with addition to imp ww
3stack only, got it
well, unless VERY unlucky
Servers will be live 6est-ish ya?
not what I said but sure
oh, i'm reading the writeup, I know what you mean
solid 200k increase on 5tar dummy, rad
even if vicious contempt is skewing it
wish they had target dummies that stayed at 100%
Hopefully yeah
Anyone know if m0 are still a daily lockout? Wowhead article is saying they’re weekly
I read weekly as well
On one hand glad for it for my sanity, other hand fuckkkkkkkk
sooner I can ditch h track house of cards the better
think they swapped to weekly when they got bumped up to what a m10 was
and get a second 684+ 2h
Ah that checks out
And yeah I got lucky and we killed bandit last week, got to replace my heroic hoc
i hope they dont make the turbo boost event a new regular thing
Same
They can shove "seasonal item" patches up their ass too
belts, rings, any of it
took a month break right before the turbo boost and came back to find out im like over 10 ilvls behind the new max ilvl
all patches to keep ppl subbed til next season
instead of working on getting the season out faster
the curios being a regular thing can stay though
or chips, w/e
I just noticed for the first time that NA server restarts arent super early in the morning/late at night like EU, but in the middle of the day
wouldn't have minded crests being warbound turbo late in a season when it doesn't matter, too
YEP.
10am-6pm
that sucks
working nights sucks all the more for it
a few hours into work and knowing ppl are gonna be pushing
I can see why, because the engineers are in the NA office in case anything goes wrong
while my ass is at work
i work night, normally the reset ends at like 9 am for me but the seasonal resets do suck ass
yeah makes sense Moo
but if i worked day shift, that would be a great time for the reset
wish there were ppl pushing 17-18 range keys from 2am onward, oh well
an even 3500 io would have been neat
3447, ick
only ppl after 3k for ksl or r1 it seems
ya i got to like 3100 and just stopped playing this season right before turbo boost
came back turbo late from playing alts when mad at having to play arms, decided still want warrior io too fking late
3k to 3447, zzzzzz
Bleh, fuck it. Nobody listing keys.

It's in the post season, so the last week doesn't matter.
I hit resil 15 about 2 months ago, then stopped pushing. Resil keys just make it dumb.
The amount of sales has been criminal.
it's pointless getting coffer keys right? because they are clearly under "Season 2" in the char tab?
I liked them when I was WFH cos Brann is the only friend I have, but yeah, no reason to do them now
Magni is your friend too
Isn't that just brann when he goes super saiyan?
I’m sure he could if he wanted to
THE WOUUUUNDS
He could feeeeeeel Azeroth hurtin
At least it ain’t one of those patch days where servers come up late, addons are bricked, you got raid starting in minutes and half your raid is trying to say it’s impossible for them to play the game without ElvUI or something
Can’t wait to get home from work, to experience peak server lag, and 30 ppl camping mobs doing the campaign
We're doing 1 last gally kill tn so I may have that headache haha
Ohhhh forgot about that, those were miserable
is there any spreadsheet floating around with the % gains of every tier set for all classes ?
Godspeed
There's gonna be more tuning today and next Tues, wouldn't stress any of that shit yet
There’s even going to be tuning the moment you get 2p and again when you get 4p… fury just gonna get nerfed just cuz
Fury will get nerfed because they're trying to nerf Prot.
Yeah it's almost a guarantee fury is gonna catch a stray
why we playing spear over roar?
Cause neither really matter for their own dps, and spear bumps crit for the rest of the kit.
🙁
neither
Blizzard's wonderful design, means we don't even talent our strong signature ability.
Yup, degen shit after if you really want to. Like unlock t11 delves.
Lol
Gonna get it done and then afk til next Tues 😛
I find out if I'm stuck being raid tank or not tonight.
you will not catch me doing m0's
anyone telling you to reroll is a big monki brain 
not looking forward to prot warrior nerfing us
Some of us trying to do what we can for tier out here on the streets
Do em as fury Walhe join us
What tier man

Can't wait to get nerfed cause m0 data 
From vault
.xD
pretty sure its not how that works
Too many people on Zenith in my guild… more than me is too many
Well we def won't eat nerfs cuz of m0 we're gonna suck this week lol
Ya guys underestimate the power of buffed bladestorm 
My team has 2 fury warriors and has since DF lol 😂 I ain’t changing
just play with bad players and you will never suck 
That poor poor team 
assignment understood , will do m0s with half of gear unequipped/broken
Won't help, things still going to die within bladestorm

Enjoy this 1 week of having power, you won't see it again till next expansion week1
Need that ilvl injection straight into my veins
Tomorrow
Idk that I only chimed in because nobody said anything
gg
Hawaiian Time
I will haunt you
tyty
So is the plan that we go into M0 and do our best to be outdpsed by the tank slightly or will that be too obvious?
The plan is just put someone on follow and go afk
Let gear get mailed to you
So nobody asks you for shit
Warrior sandbag activate
gg
I see no point to 
We gonna get nerfed either way, cause dev hates us. This is known.
So just enjoy this one week of power
Still got CE kek
really
do we believe that
or sandbag MODE
TELL ME THE TRUTH
Thane Prot is actually good
But it's going to get dick smacked
SO WE SUFFFER FROM THAT
Whose dick ours or blizzard
IS WHAT U TRYING TO SAY
Yes
GG
You will get to enjoy RWF period tho
Damn
So dont worry
This is the only thing we know 100% for sure, rest is pure speculation.
True and real, real and true
I think the fact that Funky thinks we're even going to get to tier before the nerf cute

ggwp
Further highlighting if you love OF, your brain is a bit behind but you got good intentions 
LOVEYOUFUNKY
we are getting buffs
I saw it in my dream
You said 1 week of power
We will suck this week lmao, be good w tier, which we won't get before the nerfs big dog
Dreams do come true. Except this one.

what are we peeking at
Class Changes
• Woyer
• Reroll
trust me bro
Thane aint doing any dmg before 4pc anyway
Prot passive Ravagers go brr
Going to try to push for 2400 early before we get dicksmacked into unplayability
You can't get 2.4k tho, first month ya usually capped to what 2k, before you get 1 CR a win and lose 200

I hate that part of PvP so much
Depends on bracket, but yeah
Idk, I just don't think Fury/Prot is going to stay anywhere near decent between now and season start
idk seems like bro generated some slop from the funny matrix, and I am the funny matrix's number 1 hater
I got a spooky fury, we gucci
Traitor
You'll love this then
Someone made a YouTube tiktok audiobook version of my guide. https://youtu.be/RpztcQLo4XA?si=bQwAb4UirZhBL3lc
Larias' Raider's Guide for 11.2: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vShLvYM5PS68ZdEMG9lcNwoa3GGycjaI5tELGtWoRbd545S99_o80LAeDTGB84ye6k_O0wUKdvZtsVI/pub
This video is a joke.
Kek
I'm laser focused
I suffer from terminal brain rot already and I think this might have cut 3 years off my life
Lmao
Not enough keychain rattling, I lost attention after 20 sec
Fury warriors trying to count to 4 for ww stacks and getting distracted halfway through
And still hitting whirlwind. Lol
When in doubt press we twice
not really fury related. but this shit is super impressive
Funky I need the tech, what do I play in m0s this week
Oh?
i been fuckign with AI and diff way to bypass enhancement son pictures and stuff
Ooh
Thats why they buffed ww
Slayer BS, with OF - blow up all the packs with the storm buffs

this was a initial picture of my player model i asked it to do its shit
and this is with enhancements
What do I drop for OF? VC?
like AI is fucking insane lol
Of will get buffed tommorow
☘️
Hear me out
AI has legitimate use cases, and for small-scale things that aren't being marketed like that, I think there's no real concerns. There are massive moral and ethical concerns with monetization of AI-generated work though, and also learned helplessness from chat bots and AI assistants
Remove roar replace with of
the other big issue is power draw and environmental impact, but thats a much easier problem to solve
yea 100% but for non malicious uses. like thats pretty fkn dope
Will there be much rotation change in 11.2 or am I fine "learning" it now?
nah not much
Slayer is still RB spam.
Thane mixes it up, with a lot of thunder blast procs
both thane and slayer take their respective rotation and lean into them more so you should be good
won't b playing thane after it's obliterated in tuning
we r going to pay for prots sins
But we need this box
I like asking the AI to ask me questions, having me explain them
saves me bothering friends/coworkers for perspective
Agreed although in a similar vein, small-scale use from individuals really doesn't move the needle. Google providing me AI responses I didn't ask for telling me that Angular v20 doesn't exist despite they themselves having released it a couple months ago is a much bigger problem
Can you provide an example
There's a very dangerous outcome from things like that that I affectionately refer to as borrowing a chainsaw
e.g. if your neighbor asks you to borrow your chainsaw, and you say "sure, what for?" and they say they locked themselves out and they need to chainsaw through their front door. Like that works, but it's not the right tool for the job, and that solution only makes sense in the absence of context
And AI is a big fan of handing out chainsaws because it doesn't know your (complete) context
Well, AI in this case would likely ask, why use a chainsaw
AI legit makes you stupider the more you use it
As in scientifically that's the outcome they've observed in every study ever
Not 1 person finished with a higher or even equivalent IQ in any study
Stop using AI for problem solving lol
It doesn't even help with fact finding either
I'm making an assumption that you're asking about things you don't already have sufficient wholistic knowledge in (otherwise why would you ask at all) - in those cases, how can you identify a chainsaw when you are given one?
Boys go to jupiter to get more stupider
It is not solving the problem tho, but I presume context has been lost long ago
AI Big Foot videos are pretty solid
Not meant as an attack on you btw Funky, just a philosophical rhetorical question
ai is objectively useful considering that google search results suck ass sometimes
i don't want it to be the case but it is
90% of my ai usages are make this email more formal ok no a little more casual thanks
I just CBA to try to comment or discuss in here, ppl usually come in cocked and with no prior context of what is the topic 
That's fair
same
Imagine using Google and not something like Brave or Yandex
im not a fuckin hipster
Google has been fucked for years
Bro AI made that image of your toon!? That is sick af bro! 🔥
i only use yandex for finding anime girls
yea he's been posting about it like once a day

saying that ai is useful because google sucks sometimes is like saying that eating shit off the floor is good because restaurants suck sometimes

I’m practically boomer I have yet to use AI
if chatgpt can fix a one off barely documented tech support problem i have without having to dig through reddit threads from 2007 im gonna do it
tbh
How do you verify its accuracy without manually validating or cross referencing with that 2007 reddit thread though
^
because i did it and it worked
Sounds like manually validating then 
idgaf about validation i had a problem and the fix was stupid
(I'm just fucking with you)
:3
If you validate the output and it's a small-scale non-commercial use I think there's close to 0 issues
But lots of things do not get validated, and/or are used on larger commercial scales
yea dude. literaly used a screenshot from in game then hads that initial, then been messing around try to improve the quality
Also presumably in that context you are aware enough of the complete set of information that you can identify chainsaws
just because it's bad doesn't mean i wouldn't do the same thing given the opportunity
Commercial scales are only a problem because AI is dented as fuck
That is certainly a take
it's the truth
The problem with commercialization and monetization is a moral concern around the theft of intellectual property
would u not grift some grandmas for 2 morbillion dollars
It's the truth. AI is fucking dumb as fuck
And biases in training data
I could take a shit and it would be more intelligent
ai is very smart at specific things
downplaying it is being a boomer
it IS the future and we WILL all be forced to engage at some point unfort
I hope to think I would not. So far I have not stolen even if I could do so easily, and for large capital gains. So presumably I dont think I would be tempted. First you would have to shake up my situation to be in a point where I aint already living comfortably.
im not living comfortably so i have no morals
simple as
:3
I engage with it on a near-daily basis
It's a fucking brainlet
If you aren't asking it googleable answers or basic math it's not helpful at all
And even the searchable answers are suspect as fuck
Based
Based
I presume most don't, but LLMs are great for just browsing through huge amounts of documents and giving you a bullet list of points. Also great at finding missing portions and similar tasks.
they're also useful for making lists out of arbitrary garbage
So something I could task a dent to do
aka my brain
Yep, but - it does it in 0.01% of the time
"AI" is efficent at what it actually does, how we use it as a tool is up to us
ppl really do ignore the fact that ai instantly does menial tasks
Man, I fear the day my phone and shit got forced "AI" on it... I want real AI, I take that. But this shit, nah.
gemini replacing google assistant was a good thing tbf
but only because google assistant was assbad
Hey, I saw the AImodel that did describe things shown to the camera for a blind person
was a big W
I see Ai get a lot of hate, but honestly, as a tool it can do so much good too. Not its fault we going to use it stupidly or even for evil intent. It would be like blaming a hammer. It can build and destroy, after all. Heck it can even be gnawed on.
If you're using Google you are already forced to use it
I'm not sure I want any sort of AI.
I understand it has some good uses, but I don't think we should create AI.
was lookign at initial FDK apl. def gona be a fun class to play ngl lol
I presume you talking about genuine AI, or what the kids call it nowdays, AGI or whatever. A real thinking being?
Yeah now that I'm not giving a fuck about being giga I'm gonna upkeep my DK, both frost and UH look fun
if i can't get real catgirls im going to get catbots
im a radical
so fkn simple too
Warrior cord turning into DK cord 2.0 
Lmao
lol
It’s to slow for me personally
I mean fury is ok // decent
I can’t get past that
Nothing to say
we play it right, and we will do some dps finally
My brain is so conditioned to having leap and charge
Again, lincc is a traitor
smh
Damn rwf prot warriors gonna get fury dead
There’s no way I can accept DK slowness
Ive heard lincc buys keys
I'll be on warr 99% of the time haha
🤣
Why run a key when you can buy it amiright
That moment when you play DK, and notice - they are in fact faster at running around than Warrior is
100%
But my guilds paid for those 
I thank your guild Lincc
Bro just buy resil 20s why work for it on a schedule and give up wife time
Keep that up

Nah I stepped too far down to have a guild pay anymore bruh D: RIP
Lincc is officially a retired boomer 6hr a week gamer now
Still HoF surely
What happened this season with resil keys and sales was garbage
And I think blizz is happy cuz more tokens sold I'm sure
People were paying just to get INVITES for resils, that's dogshit
Resil keys rework, only works if all have keylvl done
it was 7:28 then
Ofc there is, the tokens aren't good value compared to the RMT
400k oer token
Whole party needs 18 = 19 is resil would be goated
Cuz then to get boosted you'd have to buy like 50 keys
With gold, right 
And noone can afford that
Whether my guild paid gold or not I just accept invites and plausible deniability it bruh D:
Yo that is actually a good idea
Real
Helps teams progress
Party resil defeats the purpose of them adding resil
And guts key sales
They added it to increase people pugging their keys
It would be the smartest way for resil
Not rly
The entire point of title keys is to be a team man
Like people wanna PUG HOF CE and it's wild
Just inv ppl with all keys done 1 lvl below
I pugged some of my best title keys this season
It's like if you play CSGO, solo q and professional tournament games are legit a different game
And that's ok
The phys comp community is pretty tight
And a lot of it is sharing keys with each other
Hell even HOF raiding isn't even CLOSE to top 10 raiding etc
Team keys would ruin that
You can still pug Eddie just would need to vet people more to make sure it’s resil for everyone
Because otherwise Big Caster has fun
Well no it wouldn't, because you'd be keeping up w friends
It doesn't have to be the same 5
Just all 5 need to have timed it on 18
All it would hurt is sales
Both my 19s this season weren't resil, we just timed it lol
Watching some of these people run their 19 priory for 8 hrs trying to boost the bad player as they learn each pull
Just made me sad for them
The only negative I see with that idea is people would invite someone to the resil 18 and then once it’s a 19 they wouldn’t give that person a shot at it they would boot them and invite someone who’s done a 19 already
And I promise you in past seasons they just wouldn't sell to that player
Yes actual AI
They'd waste 2-3 keys and go "sorry, this won't work"
My best keys weren’t resil either, but some of them were other people’s keys they definitely wouldn’t have ran if they didn’t know that we could push it back up if we failed
If you can run a 19 odds are you have all 17s timed for example though
And also, resil keys are still very hard to time for title keys
So I'm saying resil goes UP 1 level as a tradeoff
Like my 20 top was resil but it took 7 tries still
To not being 1 person has it = good for all 5
And it was very tight
Just get 3K score and go play RuneScape like I do - problem = solved
So if your whole team has 18 ML done, any 19 ML you guys have would be resil
The best case scenario for resil is to do charges
3 charges for a key then it depletes and is replenished when you complete
That could also work but still encourage sales more
Sales this season are giga high compared to a normal season
I've talked to some of the peeps I know who still actively sell a lot and they said it's like 4-5x what it's been the past 5 or so tiers
They should do everything they can think of to gut boosting
U can
No but we can certainly do things to make it less attractive
Resil keys made it MORE attractive
You know how many people bought tokens to ge boosted lol
^
Yeah I know I already said that, blizz is happy
I don’t understand why people are not giga bothered by the fact that all your achievements in this game are completely invalidated by a loser with a credit card
Doesn't mean it's good for the health of the game lol
That is so annoying to me
H > Rated > Solo Shuffle
To a lesser extent BGB as well
I mean at least in say BGB
If you're a healer trying to boost DPSers
And you lose 5 in a row
To be fair I have milked gold from boosting myself so I guess I’m sort of a hypocrite I get it but it’s still so annoying to me I’d rather it not exist as much
That sale ain't goin well and prob won't happen
Resil keys = let's just beat our heads off this wall til this idiot RNGs his way into getting it right
This is just how games are nowadays
It’s lame but it’s not changing
In BGB you have 6
that can fuck you over regardless
Ye I know it won't change, I just hate it
Sad but true
You can't really carry a bg like that
i mean boosts have always existed anyways and its still just a game, get your enjoyment from knowing you got it yourself and are the one good enough to boost
Exactly
Also if somebody is buying a 20 title key they still have to be good enough to time it don’t forget this
So BGB boosting doesn't really bother me
You can get carried in a 17/18 still
Well they used to, now they have to be good enough to be taught
But a 20 you can’t get full carries
Because you can resil it 20x in a row with them
Before if you bought a 20, and you giga tanked it pull 2
No you’ll hit instance cap
Parsec exists
They might try 1-2 more diff keys for you then call it
Before they ever learn
Or whatever it’s called
Ok how many can you run an hour? 5?
You spend the remaining 20m on attempt 5 teaching the person the pulls in the already tanked key
Then at the hour go reset
And yes, the sellers are doing this
It doesn’t matter
if i got the title and didnt get it account wide, id be mad
It does matter because the key used to drop lmao
7
i mean pvp r1 title
SEVEN?!
If you’ve done a 20 I promise you other than maybe a DFC at most
is still character specific
Bro you're barely ever gonna run into that
not even class or spec
Yes
You're coming from your perspective
Yoda and them can teach a +15/16 person to do the ONE 20 they need across a 4-6 hr period
Because r1 is based off of account not character
Purely because that persn just has to not be a complete bot
Bigdam has like 20+ characters, 19 of them don't count
Because they are so much better than you or I
ya but thats because pvp gets the mininum attention
Spec, but yes
Like I've done keys w plenty of great people and when you group with 1 of those top 20-30 guys, they will humble you badly
Yeah, like that MDI where the giga pull the entire lower portion of Necrotic Wake
then random pug tank tries it
I may shit on pve players as a matter of course, but that does take skill
Those guys can sell a 20 to a 15/16 level player if they have 10 attempts
I think most overestimate how much is required from a single player, and underestimate how much 4 pros can carry.
There is a BIG diff between you and your 4 buddies who worked hard to get to a 20 vs those dudes, yeah
resil is a good idea for teams who want to do a key together
but yeah them being on a person opens up more boosting
Hence why I think it should be all 5 have 18 = can start 19
Honestly get rid of the fuckin keys in general
Make it a UI
Delves literally do this, they have the tech to do so
If I wanna take my 4 buddies and we've all done 18 FG and we wanna go for 19 FG all day we should be able to
BUT we shouldn't be able to have 1 guy have 19 FG carry us from 12 to 19 on unlimited attempts
IMO
Why not?
Because it's the reason sales are 5x what they have been for title level keys lol
I had a ton of fun with friends just doing keys at a level they found more challenging as resi
Hell man even China banned boosting because it's gotten so out of hand
I dont care if Title keys cost 100000x more
I just care about my playing experience
That's community driven
Well you don't think you should be able to join your 2400 3v3 friend and go to glad instantly do you?
I mean, you basically would - with how MMR works
You could queue into the 19 with them
But it wouldn't be resil because you don't have 18
So if you time it, sure you made the jump
But the ability to spam it? Nah
And no MMR does not work that way for 3v3 arena, your friends meet you in the middle within reason and you still gain 192 until 1200ish when it starts to drop a bit
I dont understand what you are trying to police here, what is the issue you are trying to solve?
I'm not trying to police anything, although the iront
irony*
of you just saying "I'm not gonna have this convo because people come in guns blazing without reading the prior convo"
and that's what you're doing right now lol
What is the issue then, that ppl get to play 18s with their friends - that they can sell them?
Scroll up 30 messages or so, we were having a conversation
You could do the 18 still, it wouldn't be resil; yes I think being able to jump people 50x up is dogshit design in any game
Should champ spear get macroed with anything else?
I honestly dont dislike the concept of just playing with my friends, at the content we can do
And I think the expirement was fine, but it's bad
If you can do it and it isn't resil
You'll time the 18 once the 19 drops
I had a ton of fun with it, so for me it just a positive experience overall
And then be eligible for the 19s resil!
Spear is usually its own macro for cursor or player and such
makes sense ty
Noone can stop my reck,ava,pot,spear macro
- racial
OF deserves its own button
funky sold out on OF
he dont use it anymore
he says he does
Funky hates OF confirmed
what the fuck
0
Wants it nerfed more confirmed
Yellow name confirmed
funky dm'd me yesterday
Oh lawd
Yeah that checks out, sounds like Funky
Owned
something about, and i quote, " i want ethical damage"
That's actually sad, poor pupper
And sounds even more like him, wow. Funky, haterade on standby
why is this cat not hydrated


Wowww Funky abuses cats too also confirmed?!
Some patch, some tier, some expansion, it will be a Warrior meta. But it will not be this expansion.
12.0 for sure we are meta
We are week1 meta, and week 1-4 meta as Pwarrior
uncapped, thriving, flourishing
that is what we get
I give it a week
+3 days if early access
11.0 was glorious for that week….
Week1 is ours!
Oh oh oh, what does arms players say all the time...
oh right
"Just go and change spec, lol"
Arms trolls
Rent free @bitter palm
TFW SMF is more dps than Arms
You say that as if it is a bad thing
I know, but now SMF is going to catch a bullet
Do we have a cantrip 1h?

rent free indeed xdd
Remove Odyn's nodes, take SMF and Unbridled instead
atleast we have more BS damage and 5% more aura this week
Someone ban me before I say more stupid things
Wrong one lmao
we gona be meta
fuck and i forgot we have 65% meatcleavewr too
If enemies die while bladestorming reset the cooldown of bladestorm and increase movement speed by 70%
I just hope the rework makes our CDs static, so they are not balanced around CDR that just goes haywire. Turning an ability from silly weak, to a strong rotational global.

Storm of steel should be reworked to instead make you deal extra damage per target hit with bladestorm
So like
If it hits up to 5 targets each is 5% damage increase
Would be 25%
Big AoE buff
Wouldnt make up for the reap high roll
You can’t change storm of steel, it is the talent holding our class
Warrior disappear without it
Almost 10 years it’s there
Give Fury Colossus Smash again
should let the bt cleave during BS and ravager again
Arms is already dead it doesn't need help
Until it’s removed from the game no man woman or child can sleep well
Is it a significant damage loss to run Thunderous Roar + talents for M+ instead of Champion's Spear + talents?
u can full drop both and you only lose like 1%
Show thane coward


good thing I know for a fact that WoW devs know my stance on things