fury

[smoky vale]

[orchid dagger]

And apparently you are the kind of that needs to shut up and let your betters tell you how to play @plush ice

[slim coral]

I also have no life so I’ve spent too much of my time on ptr

[modest condor]

because most people cant read the apl or dont know where to find it

also ignore thebestest he's a pvper and probably should be muted

[slim coral]

Just pay for it

[smoky vale]

bestest is the goat

[orchid dagger]

^

[chilly fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/saddam-hussein-iraq-humor-gif-10217339

[smoky vale]

@orchid dagger you're washed

[chilly fractal]

Relaaaaax guy

[orchid dagger]

[slim coral]

I hope the devs keep arms dead

Better for the game until fixes

[orchid dagger]

You right, I'd have this entire channel by now

[plush ice]

really, the only reason I said anything is when they nerfed execute a few ptr cycles ago I know arch mentioned at the time he didn't know how that would effect the execute conditionals - at that point we def could just press it at any SD, bu the nerf may have changed it, so I was just checking to see if there was ever a final call on which was better

[orchid dagger]

We literally don't have the patch yet

[slim coral]

Well it did change the execute conditionals

[modest condor]

i think there's some stuff with sd that changed but ironically it wasnt because of that nerf

[chilly fractal]

They could just remove Arms and we could have 2 specs like DH

[slim coral]

You use to just send exe on cd with SD procs

Now you send it to get up to 5 AJ stacks and if you have 2 stacks of SD

Atleast that’s what the apl does

[orchid dagger]

Yeah, it's scuffed

[plush ice]

ok, so we send it to get to 5 AJ quickly, then it goes back to sending it at the last second then

that would make sense

[orchid dagger]

You play a one button spec pretty much

[slim coral]

Yep that’s what the apl does

[modest condor]

im pretty sure you send it with 2 stacks of mfe

[slim coral]

That too ye

[modest condor]

at least that was the most recent change i know of

[plush ice]

oh, thats interesting, i wounder why that would matter

[slim coral]

Bladestorm cd

[orchid dagger]

Gotta spin more

[oblique thistle]

So on slayer we aren't just slamming execute whenever SD procs? Waiting for 2 mfe?

[plush ice]

ah, does it bump up against bladestorm and cause you to lose CDR too much

[restive peak]

It’s 2 stacks of MFE, jugg falling off or 2 SD procs yeah

[slim coral]

Pretty much same as live after the nerfs kekw

[restive peak]

And BT is ignore as much as possible while pressing RB 600x

The more RBs the better

[slim coral]

Honestly wish they didn’t nerf exe

[eternal sundial]

If you dont preg egg him for pings

He's usually nice

[slim coral]

Sending it on cd with SD procs was fun

[plush ice]

alrighty, I'm sure the guide will get updated later so I can change my UI

[orchid dagger]

Also because BS casts BT

[chilly fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/bogiesmalls-gif-860452889982698652

[oblique thistle]

Ngl that's mega cringe, I would much prefer to just send that shit on proc like early ptr

[restive peak]

They had to when they gave us this much executing which is also dogshit design but w.w lol

W.e

[modest condor]

like i said the change in the apl wasnt because of the nerf

[orchid dagger]

I mean they need to buff execute

[slim coral]

Don’t worry bud I’m sorry you can just follow the exe weakaura

[orchid dagger]

Or just give us Condemn

[slim coral]

It’ll probably get updated

[glad hill]

New to warrior.. Why is it recommended to macro recklessness and avatar together? My recklessness comes off CD before avatar so should I just be send it off CD or wait for avatar to be back up?

[modest condor]

it's because there was a bug in sims that made sd consume its own tierset proc, so if you sent it at 1 stack you were actually consuming 2 stacks

after that got fixed it was changed to 2 mfe

[restive peak]

In AOE you’ll BT on CD so

[slim coral]

Because you use them together

[restive peak]

At least the play styles are slightly different

[oblique thistle]

I LOVE following wa 😤

[slim coral]

99 percent of the time reck will come off cd as soon as avatar is coming up

Also saves you a button

[orchid dagger]

Also Torment talent

Ava + Reck

[slim coral]

Can you even macro reck Ravager and avatar together tbh

[orchid dagger]

Yes

[gilded pawn]

Ya

[restive peak]

I macro roar into em cuz I’m a lazy fuck as I get old

[gilded pawn]

Not optimal

But can do it

[restive peak]

And just have a separate button too

[modest condor]

but why would you roar before you reach the boss?

[dense elbow]

Reck+Charge, BiS

[chilly fractal]

I hate roar man… why can’t we have like AA or something not completely shit

[restive peak]

Press Ava reck as you charge = on GCD won’t send roar

[plush ice]

yeah, mine are also macroed into roar, with a seperate reck/charge keymind, and then just a seperate reck keybind

[slim coral]

Oh weird interaction

[restive peak]

Press again as you get there to roar

[orchid dagger]

My swifty macro is:
/cast Avatar
/cast Recklessnes
/use 13
/use Saltwater Potion
/cast Thunderous Roar

[slim coral]

Saltwater?

[modest condor]

none of those abilities are on the gcd tho?

[orchid dagger]

Pvp

[slim coral]

Brother you can’t drink saltwater

You’re gonna die!

[chilly fractal]

Not healthy that’s for sure

Not recommended

[restive peak]

Charge = half sec as you press that it won’t roar

Works every time shrug

[orchid dagger]

Tears are healthy bro

[slim coral]

That sounds kinda crazy

[orchid dagger]

Especially Mage tears

[chilly fractal]

Saw that one movie starring Sabrina the teenage witch and at least 1 person died drinking salt water

[slim coral]

Fuck mages

[restive peak]

Although I also have a reck button so honestly I usually charge > reck > enrage press the macro

[orchid dagger]

[restive peak]

And then any other time in the fight you will be roaring at the same time

[slim coral]

Those mfkers are meta every tier

[restive peak]

Mage kit has too much

It will always be goated

[orchid dagger]

Yeah, they suck off Blizzard

[oblique thistle]

Blue class main character of wow

[slim coral]

We need to start

[restive peak]

Defensives out the ass, immunity option, extreme movement even when casting, 3 differing damage profiles to fit anything etc

Bazed feel free to go start the suckin we’ll join later bro GL

[orchid dagger]

Nah, they looked at our class and went "too much toxic masculinity" and went to drink a soy latte

[glad hill]

If we run anger management talent isn’t reck coming off CD before avatar?

[oblique trail]

Yes

[restive peak]

Yeah and if Ava is on CD and you press the macro it just sends reck

[oblique trail]

You'd just use it whenever it's ready unless you have a reason to hold Recklessness

[unborn delta]

i remember in the sandbag tier list the mage guy was like "yea we are pretty immobile so that moves us down a tier"

[restive peak]

LMAO

Mage and immobile

[glad hill]

Word, appreciate it

[oblique thistle]

Yeah I remember him saying that absolutely fucking crazy

[glad hill]

Thanks

[unborn delta]

he was like "frosts are gonna do less damage than the sim because we are immobile"

[orchid dagger]

Fucking mages bro

[restive peak]

Yeah bro I had to blink during glacial spike it was awful

Like stfu

[oblique thistle]

Ice lance is NOT a spell

[high sedge]

frost does oversim cuz no movement so i've heard

[slim coral]

Yes but that doesn’t matter with the macro

[eternal sundial]

Ice floes with the bug

Spaceglide for 400 casts

[glad coyote]

question is what trinket am i replacing seaform with tomorrow?

[dense elbow]

Melee can always move and cast, frost got cast timers, it is unequal and unfair. Buff mage 10%

[glad coyote]

since the nerf

[orchid dagger]

I want Death Sentence back just to hear mages bitch and moan

[restive peak]

I respect the mages that admit they’re giga busted, every other mage can jump bro

[slim coral]

Frost Dk is what arms should be

[orchid dagger]

You mean spooky arms

[dense elbow]

If Frost DK is what you want, why not play Frost DK?

[slim coral]

I just mean in terms of smooth rotation

[silent burrow]

Say less

[slim coral]

The new frost is so good

[orchid dagger]

Just make a macro where you replace Obliterate with Mortal Strike icon

Ez

[slim coral]

Lol true

Although I think oblitn as the condemn animation or something

I think someone told me that

[oblique thistle]

Nah put soul reaper as condemn

[orchid dagger]

Pillar is Avatar

[slim coral]

True

Or cs

[orchid dagger]

Reaper's Mark is CS

[slim coral]

I think pillar is actually cs

[orchid dagger]

Nah, Pillar is 30% Str

[slim coral]

Cause it’s based off how much of a resource you spend

[oblique thistle]

Empower rune weapon does damage

That's cs

[slim coral]

Also the new unholy also feels good to play

[orchid dagger]

ERW just gets you a Rune and RP

It's Bloodrage

[slim coral]

Blizzard cooked for dk ngl

Also that reminds me I gotta take dnd off my bars

[oblique thistle]

It also does damage now due to the changes

Like wake of ashes style

[orchid dagger]

Oh shit

[restive peak]

New unholy kinda fucks

I think it’s gonna sneak its way into being busted

[orchid dagger]

I mean I'm ready for the swap

My FDK is sitting there waiting for tomorrow's grind

[oblique thistle]

People were already experimenting with it after the death bringer nerfs to frost

[slim coral]

There’s no sneaking

[oblique thistle]

And it looks pretty much just as good

[slim coral]

Anyone with a brain that has played ptr knows how busted unholy is

[orchid dagger]

Which Hero talent?

[restive peak]

I mean there is because we may know but the general Reddit/forums etc are barely discussing unholy

Fdk overshadowed it

[orchid dagger]

I mean Redditors have 80 IQ at the best of times

My shit in the toilet > the opinion of a redditor

[slim coral]

They don’t talk about unholy because frost is being played more

But they basically do the same thing

And unholy is better in raid I think

[restive peak]

I know, but that still means it’s not as on the radar as you think

[oblique thistle]

Isn't frost rider also kinda flying under the radar too?

Everyone super focused on deathbringer and just ignoring rider entirely

[dense elbow]

Rider wont be approved till you can ride your horse around in dungs

[astral glade]

is there a somewhat usable raid build i can do mugzee on with 2x 1 hand weapons from my tank gear? ;D

heroic

[slim coral]

Nah if you go in the discord they’ll tell you it’s rider

[slim coral]

I can’t speak for casuals but all the tryhards know

[chilly fractal]

A higher ilvl one

Or a Sac

Or nothing because your luck is shit

[brittle crow]

is bloodthirst not prio in aoe w/ mountain thane next season?

prio has it below rb unless conditional

[hidden stirrup]

replace your trinkets last, because trinkets never drop anyway 🥲

[chilly fractal]

Ara Kara we only have like 4 items on our loot table next season

So farming that when M+ comes out for a hero track should be very easy

[sullen tendon]

cant wait to have 2 stat trinkets again for the 8th season in a row 👍

we should never have trinkets that do interesting things

[brittle crow]

transmitter was interesting and yall complained

[sullen tendon]

it was a stat trinket

it wasnt interesting

[chilly fractal]

Yea we should have a trinket that gives us rage generation

[brittle crow]

all trinkets are stat trinkets

increasing your dps stat

[bitter palm]

it is

[chilly fractal]

Gives us max rage for 15 seconds

[bitter palm]

apl is not updated for s3

[brittle crow]

11.2 guide my ass

smh

[sullen tendon]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=124237/discordant-chorus https://www.wowhead.com/item=140808/draught-of-souls https://www.wowhead.com/item=140806/convergence-of-fates https://www.wowhead.com/item=167555/pocket-sized-computation-device

interesting trinkets that do more than just stat increases

[bitter palm]

whats the name of the mop one

that reduced cd

that one is peak

[chilly fractal]

The one from Galakras?

[sullen tendon]

thoks tail was cool

[bitter palm]

ye galakras

[chilly fractal]

Galakras for CDR and Thok for damage amp

[sullen tendon]

maybe im tihnking of differnet trinket

just kinda boring that every season the trinkets are just "doing damage has a chanceto grant you X of stat"

"pressing on use gives you x stat for 8 seconds decaying"

"pressing on use throws a ball at the enemy doing x damage split between them"

and not evne having fgood proc rates

[earnest canyon]

its better than when one of the best trinkets in the game was 2% hit

[sullen tendon]

discordant chorus was cool cause it procced so much

and looked cool

it looked like an extra ability

[frozen lake]

When those trinkets were peak then all anyone did was complain how they were too impactful

So here we are

[sullen tendon]

lmao

[frozen lake]

The circle of life

[chilly fractal]

2% Crit Blackhand’s breadth

And HoJ 20 AP and proc extra swing

[earnest canyon]

Yeah was thinking of neltharions tear as it came fron the last raid in the game (but was caster)

[chilly fractal]

Well that came from BWL

[earnest canyon]

yeah i got it on our first kill

my point was they have become way more inventive with trinkets and moved them into a dps slot rather than some gimmicks

[sullen tendon]

they should make a trinket that when you use it it explodes your head and kills you during the fight

[chilly fractal]

Now an item that stayed BiS for far too long - Lionheart helm… can craft right away and lasts until BC

[thick fossil]

Wasn't the frozen anchor from Jaina also busted for more than one season?

It's been a long time since BFA.

[sudden tusk]

bis gear why ask

[thick fossil]

Good video BTW @sudden tusk

[sudden tusk]

woo

[young swan]

on ptr i mean

[sudden tusk]

no idea i havent touched it

is it secret op

[bitter palm]

can u transfer crests between characters

[sudden tusk]

no

[slim coral]

DN

[chilly fractal]

Got em

[clever path]

That would be too fun, and they are not in the business of fun

[bitter palm]

https://tenor.com/view/gimme-that-gimme-give-me-cat-cage-gif-16482188845896087946

[slim coral]

Fury enjoyers only

[clever path]

Can someone give a tik tok resume of warrior dps on raid and M+ ?

[slim coral]

Fury

TLDR

[bitter palm]

too long

[placid violet]

mid

[bitter palm]

attention span

f m

fury mid

gg

[slim coral]

Blizzard removed arms from 11.2

[bitter palm]

bringing it big time in 12.0

[slim coral]

It won’t be enabled again until midnight

[earnest canyon]

Is it true Fury in French is "La Fury"? If so, that is crazy

[clever path]

Dude I saw some tier lists with arms on the bottom with fking aug hahaha

[bitter palm]

if mm is in dobby arms is 5km under the ground

[fleet pulsar]

fureur

[earnest canyon]

u ruined it

[fleet pulsar]

[spare steppe]

Arms is armless

[fluid shadow]

i miss SL fury

season 3 specifically

[slim coral]

yep

Source: I'm 3 percent french

[bleak timber]

I miss MOP Fury or Draenor fury

[frank dawn]

draenor fury...the fuck

WoD was some hella cursed warrior design, tier bonuses and class trinkets kinda saved it in HFC

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/warrior-blizzard-wow-classic-push-hank-hill-gif-27417019

Mage, Hunter, Walrlock, and DK all standing in the background there.

[trail thunder]

get ready for the 15% aurabuff

[fluid shadow]

merciless bonegrinder or whatever it was called was my favorite thing ever

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-woah-wait-what-shocked-what-did-you-say-gif-16673454

[slim coral]

[modest condor]

if arms doesnt get an aura buff before the raid releases blizzard is cooked

i dont think it's gonna be 15% tho

[trail thunder]

raid good, sims high and cleaves, m+ good in it's comp but almost nobody plays it, but fine for civilian keys if you get invited

[thick fossil]

I can see arms getting a couple targeted buffs. Maybe to Execute.

[slim coral]

I mean arms sims at 5.3

so they'll probably buff it

[bleak timber]

good old day

[trail thunder]

arms is currently 15% behind fury and unlike fury it doesnt cleave for free

[earnest canyon]

Whats a civilian key

[modest condor]

fury isnt simming 5.98mil tho

[trail thunder]

i am unconvinced you would even play arms over fury if arms got an 15% aurabuff

[earnest canyon]

are you in the army

[chilly fractal]

Peak “if your first bloodthirst doesn’t Crit then try and wipe your raid” design

[trail thunder]

it is simming 5.9

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/aliens-newt-salute-affirmative-gif-22416140

[modest condor]

arms also has a much stronger niche (execute damage) and in m+ if it gets buffed by 15% fury is just dead for another season

[trail thunder]

anything you can realistically still pug? though, i guess that line shifted with resilient keys

[bleak timber]

i don't see any problem with that

SoO fury warrior is really my favourite design

i miss screaming and banners

[slim coral]

if colossus got buffed I could see it being good for the damage amps

[chilly fractal]

Those were gone in WoD tho

[trail thunder]

it would be like now, you would still play fury on fights with cleave, but like, 5.9 isnt THAT high if a sim for 11.2

[bleak timber]

sshhh, don't bring bad memories

[trail thunder]

you would for sure play arms in keys tho if it just got a flat 15% aura, but its soooo far behind viability in raids rn, its hard to imagine getting it playable without anything drastic, considering it does much less single target if it wants to cleave

[south kayak]

That's why I think it's better that they buff Pure ST abilities like Slam/MS/Execute/OP

That's their main issue rn

[slim coral]

arms just feels so bad to play it's better they keep it dead like aug ngl

[trail thunder]

idk how did they nuke arms damage going into 11.2 this much. did it catch strays from tier set nerfs for prot?

[south kayak]

Yeah but that wasn't significant

Arms just never got any buff aside from the 5% one

[trail thunder]

so other classes just got buffed around it more

and it fell behind

[spare steppe]

Make execute great again

[trail thunder]

during ptr

[south kayak]

I think Strength scaling is just worse than others

at least for warrior

Idk

[restive peak]

You would absolutely run colossus arms purely for the fight design if it gets anywhere close to fury

[trail thunder]

arms damage goes up like 30% in execute or smth no? thats pretty strong i think?

[restive peak]

The fights have damage amps and fury is extremely, extremely flat

[trail thunder]

sure but there are some damage amps RIGHT after cleave, and arms cant do both

especially nexus king

[restive peak]

There are always roles there for pure boss dam and otherwise

If we did the best or close to best boss dam during amp and execute, we would just ignore the AOE phases and let other classes cover it

[trail thunder]

im just saying that flat damage has a worse reputation than it actually is, by itself

[restive peak]

No, for this specific raid it is a bad profile

[trail thunder]

fire has had a flat damage curve forever and it has been meta multiple times

[restive peak]

It’s not a problem otherwise

[trail thunder]

ok, conceded

[spare steppe]

blizzard feels notoriously bad for either super peaks (last expansion demo/sin) or extreme flat profiles

[restive peak]

I love the flat profile of fury overall, I’ve always been 1 of the defenders of it in fact, but for this raid it’s very poorly attributed sadly

[edgy widget]

Short version: all the S3 bonuses are really strong, but Arms’ season 2 bonuses were already pretty good while Fury’s were complete trash

So from a relative standpoint, Arms is increasing a lot less from 2->3

[south kayak]

Yeah, that's a good point

[south kayak]

Sludgefist moment

[young swan]

needing a bursty profile makes me wonder if we dont just play power triangle anyways

force a bursty profile

[woven valley]

I like having passive trinkets

Zug brain go zug

[south kayak]

[restive peak]

RA and trinkets bro we can fix this

[south kayak]

imagine if they buff RA before raid

We have our burst

[chilly fractal]

Making some English muffins

Just thought I’d let you all know

[south kayak]

Good to know

[brittle crow]

is ritual forge just cheeks for us
bad timing

[tiny jewel]

So definitely replace S2 tier as soon as possible and craft weapon first from what im seeing in Archs write up

[young swan]

i think its something to legit consider

[restive peak]

Yeah that’s basically always the move in a new tier

[restive peak]

Yeah I actually think we might see it

[willow cradle]

Nice, I'm making some grilled cheese sandwiches for lunch

[restive peak]

Like echo is going to play Revvez, he’s too good of a player to sit, so we’ll see what he cooks

[earnest canyon]

They are making him play healer

[restive peak]

Lmao

[olive wraith]

RA just seems so ass rn

[trail thunder]

ty

[chilly fractal]

Thomas English Muffins were BOGO

[thick fossil]

I never liked the RA change. I wouldn't even be upset with the Titan's torment unlinking to OF, if they made it into something worth using.

[restive peak]

Yeah new RA is dogwater

[trail thunder]

but like, i was only half joking about the 15% aurabuff. i dont think a melee spec that mostly does single target damage has a chance to be in a comp unless it hits like close to a 6mil sim and or doesnt noticeably outsim the one that can cleave

[restive peak]

Well it does if you can use demolish on damage amps and the execute damage is high

Historically that 35-0 is the hardest in prog

[trail thunder]

blizzard, 12.0 dps warrior touchup pls

[restive peak]

If colossus arms got to like 5.6ish I think it would see play

[thick fossil]

Problem is, Arms isn't even the best execute class anymore. Fuck hunters.

[olive wraith]

I don’t want fury playstyle to change too drastically

[restive peak]

The problem with Warrior as a hole is we’ve lost all of our niches to other specs

[olive wraith]

Arms seems like it needs help

[restive peak]

We’re just mid at everything

[modest condor]

because it's undertuned

so if it gets an aura buff

[olive wraith]

Tbf I think fury is getting nudged towards our niche

[trail thunder]

hm, possibly yeah, nexus king p3 and dimensius p3 look very "oh shit oh fuck" and you would be fine with the lower damage earlier in the fight if arms starts cranking 7.5mil dps in the last 35%

[willow cradle]

No idea what Thomas English muffins or or if they're different from regular English muffins but Hell Yeah

[thick fossil]

Not gonna hold my breath.

Man, now I want some toasted English muffins to go with my tea.

[restive peak]

Exactly, and let’s be real it’s not uncommon to hold dmg for phases during prog which means the pre execute damage matters even less

[trail thunder]

its absolutely going to get juiced it sims 15! % behind its counterpart, the question is mostly how much, not "if"

how much and when, not if

[restive peak]

Finally lol

[olive wraith]

Now let’s get some stacked council boss fights

[restive peak]

Well we also have to be ready for the potential that whatever nerf Prot eats could indirectly hit fury

Mind you that won’t really impact raid

[olive wraith]

Man prot really had to be too strong this tier

[trail thunder]

oh sorry, whos calling? the arcane talent tree? with resonance for free??? and execute? and hyper burst?!?

[olive wraith]

Leave the dps alone

[trail thunder]

whats that? mage? doing everything? again?

[restive peak]

They SHOULD separate the nerf, but it’s blizz

So odds are they just lazy slap it on

[spare steppe]

What niche would warrior specs be best at?

[serene cloud]

40 man raid, 35 mages, 2 tanks, 3 healers. Beat the encounter before anything bad happens

[mossy pelican]

It’s part of their philosophy atp

[trail thunder]

they tend to be ok with reworked specs being very strong that patch

[thick fossil]

This is a very safe bet.

[restive peak]

Fury should be beat at 5T by design, and arms should be the best at execute by design lol

[young swan]

in fairness, i think the only fight we have a chance of seeing RA on is saladbar

[trail thunder]

gally p2 with the maximum amount of arcane mages all popping cd on the first add wave

[young swan]

perhaps dimensius, depends

[thick fossil]

We going back to Legion for that.

[olive wraith]

Idk the prot “rework” just seemed like talent tree reposition and removing spell block

[trail thunder]

meme, but i think the boss does actually just die

[restive peak]

I would be ok with us having to spec swap for diff fights tbh, even just RA vs AM

[restive peak]

Yep lol

[spare steppe]

I miss RA and CDs lining up

[young swan]

but i could see triangle getting played quite a bit

[trail thunder]

i mean, giving different specs different meaningful damage profiles on multi dps specs is kind of the idea! unfortunately iirc, rogue is the only melee where thats the case

[spare steppe]

I also wish they’d buff our cds and make them 1m 2m

Instead of 90s

[restive peak]

But it’s very clear blizz tuning is just making sure each class has a build that is serviceable and then they worry about more

[trail thunder]

especially post UH uncapped memery removal, the damage curves for UH and frost are effectively identical

[young swan]

they can buff them and keep them 1.5m they're just cowards

[restive peak]

I wouldn’t be surprised to see a warr rework that ends up that way

[trail thunder]

what way

[restive peak]

With us becoming a 1 or 2m class

[trail thunder]

ah

[restive peak]

Seems to be the direction they go often with reworks anyway

[young swan]

i think that would be a very odd paradigm shift but also theres hardly any 2 min classes left

so

who knows

[summer quail]

3%

[restive peak]

Blizzard things man

[young swan]

most of the current 2min classes are actually just 3min classes with cdr talents

[trail thunder]

i mean i like both specs, imo, if they wanted to cook, you would make one funnel burst and one constant cleave, sort of like fire and arcane

[edgy widget]

That’s what a rework is, lol

[restive peak]

I enjoyed fury for raid and colossus for M+ this tier personally

But like slayer arms is boring and garbage

[olive wraith]

I always thought reworks were big gameplay changes and new talents/abilities

[thick fossil]

I'm very worried that I'm gonna be asked to raid tank for my guild S3.

[trail thunder]

idk how rhey managed to mage juggernaught mostly annoying and frustrating, but geheudjbak

[restive peak]

Never put a shield on once/10

[trail thunder]

prot is fun tho and you can basically play it like a dps and just have your lther tank mostly hold the boss

its fun

promise

[restive peak]

Jugger needs a small extension and it’s fixed for now, I’m hoping that’s something they do as a last second bandaid

[thick fossil]

I've always been a back up tank, and the only warrior on our raid team.

[trail thunder]

racing your worst dps for damage in execute is funny

[thick fossil]

If I don't show up they don't get Battle Shout.

[edgy widget]

Well they did add new talents and is removing spell block not a big gameplay change? Lol

[young swan]

i think you're probably thinking wod -> legion redesign

which isnt normally the case unless if the spec is like

GIGA down bad

[olive wraith]

I guess it is considering that was the biggest magic defensive. I guess in my head I just thought it’s just one button

[thick fossil]

It is to us that knew how to utilize spell block.

[edgy widget]

Yeah but one button can still matter!

[olive wraith]

Ya for sure

[iron portal]

!

[frank dawn]

My entire rotation is one button now tho. Huge

[iron portal]

My whole life is one button

https://tenor.com/view/power-button-green-flame-gif-5937607553940343994

[olive wraith]

Overall pretty excited for s3

Gonna pray to odyn daily thane doesn’t catch a stray cause prot

[frank dawn]

Both fury bonuses are quite fun

[olive wraith]

I think slayer seems relatively safe

[edgy widget]

And tbf to Prot, there are other diffs too; they got a bunch of new talents beyond rng spell block, like the new passive Ravage

[frank dawn]

If Odyns fury is what happens by praying to Odyn you might want to rethink that lol

[serene cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/anchorman-odins-raven-great-gif-4116046

[olive wraith]

Fine I’ll worship xalatoes

[orchid dagger]

Knifu's toes? Bruh

[thick fossil]

For some stupid reason I googled Xalatoes, hopeful of a funny meme. I do not recommend it.

Thank you mods.

[frank dawn]

for any class do the sets have different modifiers for specs?

like could theprot bonus only increased TB damage by 50% or something instead of the 100% for fury

like im sure its possible, but has it already been done somewhere else lol

[thick fossil]

Yes, they could easily balance by spec.

[olive wraith]

Not to my knowledge

Not the tier

[undone flower]

Then can just aura nerf prot no need to bring the tier in the equation

[thick fossil]

Will there, not likely.

[olive wraith]

But they have reduced the spell damage for specific specs iirc

[frank dawn]

aura nerfing prot would kinda dumpster colossus no?

[olive wraith]

Like nerf thane prot tb by x

[undone flower]

They can buff colossus to compensate

It will help arms

[olive wraith]

I was under the impression Col isn’t even bad, it’s just not as good as thane prot

[south kayak]

It has

[frank dawn]

prot thane damage breakdown is kinda silly, whatevr they do needs to be targeted at TB imo lol

but then not hurt fury at the same time

[south kayak]

it always has been like that though

it's even more egregious in s3

[frank dawn]

I guess thats true yeah

[olive wraith]

Caus s3 set giga charges tb lol

Pleeeeeeasee let us stay

[undone flower]

And prot has AoE execute hitting like a truck

[south kayak]

I don't think I'll play warrior this tier, I'm maining priest heal for raid

but it'd be nice for my warrior friends to enjoy

[olive wraith]

Ya prot getting aoe exe before arms is wild

[south kayak]

mini ravager and exec cleave maybe means they have something good in store for the dps specs

at least those ideas are really good

so it gives me some hope that they won't mess it up

[south kayak]

I'd rather they nerf the set bonus % to 50% instead of 100% then buff Fury's TB specifically

and forgo buffing Prot TB

[olive wraith]

Honestly great idea cause that’ll make us less reliant on the tier tb

[south kayak]

Yeah, that's the point

[young swan]

@restive peak perhaps giga overcooked but im gonna try it on heroic on saladman

[south kayak]

It's a little too silly rn

[unborn delta]

IMO arms should be THE execute spec, nothing else should do more ST dmg in execute than it

[young swan]

my opinion is that warrior should just be the execute class

[lean heart]

📠

[young swan]

fury and arms can have things that set them apart, but they should both be insane in execute

[olive wraith]

[young swan]

I also think 35% execute is cringe and should die

[south kayak]

Real

[young swan]

thanks @hallow sphinx

[frank dawn]

Yeah I agree, but I’m also ok with arms having the bigger shift. Arms being the premier execute while fury being a bit more balanced but still second best execute

[young swan]

definitely

[quiet geyser]

Technically fury was the original execute spec. Plus, being a blood thirsty warrior, wouldn't it thematically make sense for fury to do more damage when you're almost dying?

[olive wraith]

How long has arms held the execute title though

[lean heart]

i think both arms and fury should have something that gives them more stats in execute

currently thats only arms

[quiet geyser]

True, but i never said longer lol I just said original

[tepid cedar]

Bring back venthyr 80% execute damage 🙂

[lean heart]

and jugg is so dog shit im not even counting that

[south kayak]

[brittle crow]

wuh

[olive wraith]

Bruh

[lean heart]

nice

[olive wraith]

Everyday

[south kayak]

Bro did it when the mod was literally chatting here

bad idea

[frank dawn]

im torn on this, I could 100% get behind lowering the threshold a bit - especially if it becomes a bit more exclusive but sometimes 20% goes by so fast and when you get into dungeon content can become almost non existant

[young swan]

i think theres ways to make it feel good without making fury irrelevant in m+

[tepid cedar]

Well if they make execute classes matter again def lowering the threshold

[lean heart]

i believe 35% could be good if its only for warriors

[young swan]

fury long imgur is proof of that imo

[olive wraith]

I mean that could just be slayers use. Just a raid spec

[lean heart]

the other specs can have execute too but make them all 20%

[south kayak]

that ain't happening

[lean heart]

im js

[south kayak]

I know

The most egregious execute damage was fury in antorus

that's way too much

[frank dawn]

*sometimes

[lean heart]

i only started playing in nyalotha

[south kayak]

I don't want to excel at execute if I do nothing before execute

[lean heart]

also tru

[frank dawn]

and actually I think Arms in WoD was way worse than Antorus when it came to execute swings

WoD arms literally did 70% of its damage in the execute phase cooldown window lol

it had fun to it, but if that got fucked for you somehow

you were done

[south kayak]

You know what, that might be true

I remember seeing arms breakdown in HFC and it was like insane execute damage on very little casts of it lol

[frank dawn]

that was amplified by the ring thing too

[young swan]

nya is up there

as well

[frank dawn]

but still WoD arms execute was something

WoD arms execute also one tapped in pvp 98% of the time

good times

[south kayak]

Didn't arms already do pretty good damage outside of execute

Execute was crazy though

[modest condor]

nyalotha arms omg

[frank dawn]

ehhh, not really. it was still mostly execute

[young swan]

u did like 250k dps during ur lucid window in execute

[lean heart]

nyalotha arms was kinda crazy lmao

[young swan]

and like 80k for the rest of the fight

[south kayak]

Interesting

[modest condor]

250k? didnt you burst like 600k+

[young swan]

uh

maybe in aoe

[frank dawn]

these numbers, they mean nothing

[south kayak]

lmao yeah

we're simming 6m for next tier

[young swan]

i dont remember exactly

[south kayak]

that's like double the sim of legion

more than double

[lean heart]

big numbers good

[radiant plank]

Destro opener was considered high and it barely broke 100k

[young swan]

im pretty sure lucid execute was around 250k-300k dps

[frank dawn]

top end legion sims were like 2.8m or something I think?

[south kayak]

yeah almost 3m

[radiant plank]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tUAmcLXy00

[frank dawn]

but it is wild how much power creep we have

[modest condor]

average st at the end of 8.3 was like mid 100k

[radiant plank]

sorry 300k opener

[south kayak]

they're for sure going to squish numbers for midnight

[thick fossil]

https://imgflip.com/i/a264fe

[south kayak]

I'd want it to keep going up lol

[young swan]

they already said so

[modest condor]

nah you did WAY more than that absolutely

maybe 250-300k was before corruption vendor or something

[young swan]

maybe at the end

idk

i only remember prog

if im being honest

[south kayak]

There's no way that's true because I remember watching deswind in M+ and he was pulling 600k on aoe

[young swan]

tom deep wounds moment

[radiant plank]

someone with wc premium go check

[south kayak]

imagine having premium wcl

[modest condor]

you spent 4 minutes building up a razorcoral just to get 1 lucid window in execute phase where you did absolutely monstrous burst

[south kayak]

what was the dps in EP?

[young swan]

like 50-ishk

[modest condor]

^

oh wait EP

yeah around 50kish

[young swan]

top end for EP was 65k

for pure st

[modest condor]

i remember the dps check for ashvane was like high 40k across the raid

[young swan]

but that was ashvane which ended up being like

3min fight

[thick fossil]

Yup, Ashvane was a dps race.

[young swan]

ashvane was so fun

[thick fossil]

I enjoyed it. Better than squid boy

[dense elbow]

Squidboy was aight, ya just had to yell at ranged who took your spot once in a while

[young swan]

mid tier bosses in that raid were epic

radiance, ashvane, orgo

all super fun

for me

[south kayak]

orgozoa is the cshb boss

[thick fossil]

Only fight I could really see as a flop was the big fish.

[young swan]

yeah blackwater was uh

yeah

[dense elbow]

Fishboss was alright, it was just something different and kinda unique. Also free at the end, so hey.

[modest condor]

man why did wcl have to put old logs behind a paywall

[young swan]

u know what ur definitely right

[thick fossil]

Even the council fight was fun, even with the constant switching.

[young swan]

there was absolutely some silly execute numbers in the neighborhood of 400-600k

[modest condor]

you had 1 burst window during the fight and that got you to do competitive dps

that burst had to be insane

[young swan]

what im remembering is at the start

i remember seeing a carapace log or some shit

220k dps

close to the start

[modest condor]

tbf carapace was pad

[south kayak]

Yeah carapace had a bunch of small adds come in

In the last phase

It was giga pad

[thick fossil]

Which boss are we calling Carapace?

Oh N'zoth

[modest condor]

carapace

[thick fossil]

I was still thinking the tier before.

[spare steppe]

Carapace was before nzoth

[thick fossil]

Yeah, it was second last boss.

[modest condor]

found an early 8.3 sim and arms is already bursting over 200k in this https://www.simulationcraft.org/reports/T25_Raid.html

that's with like 50% haste

end of 8.3 arms had 100% haste

[thick fossil]

I forgot there were 12 bosses in Ny'alotha.

Too many forgetable bosses like Hivemind and Skitra.

[south kayak]

Hivemind definitely wasn’t forgettable

I remember fire mage dps there lol

[thick fossil]

Two boss fight that was meh.

[south kayak]

I disagree that it was meh tbh

I found it fun

[thick fossil]

I remember il'gynoth being fun.

[young swan]

ilgynoth prog was ass

no dispel was ass

[modest condor]

you better have enough ranged dps because if you bring more than 4 melee (including melee healers) you're gonna have a hard time

[thick fossil]

At least it wasn't the soccer mini game of Dark Inquisitor.

yeah, it was horrible for melee comps

[slim coral]

I remember lady ashvane being fun

[young swan]

vexiona was pretty good

[thick fossil]

She was, we were talking about that earlier.

[young swan]

raden sucked tho

hivemind sucked to me

but thats cause i played like shit (normal)

[slim coral]

Orgozyoa was sick

visually

[thick fossil]

And everyone wanted ink pod. lol

[young swan]

orgozoa is probably the best add fight they've ever made minus the intermission

granted ive only raided seriously since legion

portal keeper was really cool

[flat river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1373116730322456648/1377055386317754543/attachment.gif

[feral ivy]

so next season we have a cloak and that cloak is BIS entire season so far?

i dont know anything about next season other than dungeon rotation

[oak peak]

Is there a spreadsheet that shows each tier’s power increases among classes?

[winter shoal]

ulria's usually does but every time I've seen it linked it's inaccurate

[winter shoal]

Yes

[raw magnet]

Anyone know if theree are going to be any cracked delve trinkets for fury for next season?

Bis list on wowhead doesn't mention any or in the "Best trinkets" section

[young swan]

dont think so

[raw magnet]

rip

[olive wraith]

That’s a good thing

[radiant plank]

Void fragment is good if u get early hero track

[olive wraith]

You’re limited to how many heroic delve pieces you get

At least with keys you can spam them

[raw magnet]

Yeah but that's for heroic pieces for keys, delves this season were of higher value than regular dungeon heroics

depending

[olive wraith]

Right but you have less of a chance of getting heroic delve trink is what I’m saying

[raw magnet]

Mechano core amplifier at heroic track was pretty much equivelent to many mythic dungeon trinkets

Sussy energy drink was also good

[winter shoal]

I got multiple top 10 logs with amp even at the end of the season

Very powerful trink

[raw magnet]

Also Funhouse lens was pretty good

big stat increase fitting with fury cds

[winter shoal]

Never got hero funhouse or sussy sadeg

[raw magnet]

I got sussy energy drink week 1 heroic very lucky

[thick fossil]

Cloak and boots

[winter shoal]

Boots at least you can get on champ/hero/myth tracks so there's SOME gear replacement to be done

I think following the most recent change, normal cantrip boots are comparable to myth regular boots

You will never change your cloak from next week through the end of the season though afaik

[thick fossil]

Oh, yeah I see what you mean. Yeah you'll upgrade the cloak in a similar way we did the Ny'alotha cloak.

[young swan]

correct

if u have stuff craft on cloak u should craft off today

/tomorrow for eu

[thick fossil]

I have pretty well all possibilities covered. Rings, neck, bracers.

[unborn delta]

This was untrue, there was a bug in the sim where you could get both buffs from it simultaneously

So we thought it was cracked but it wasn’t

[young swan]

it was still cracked

even after that got fixed

[unborn delta]

Yeah but it wasn’t super duper cracked

Like originally it outsimmed mythic trinks

[raw magnet]

It was at least comparable to best trinkets

[thick fossil]

It was still like 70%+ uptime of big buff

[unborn delta]

If it was myth track it would be our best trink still yea

[raw magnet]

But that doesn't seem to be the case with upcoming season since none are listed in best trinkets list

[unborn delta]

It’s just pacemaker again 😴

[modest condor]

is it?

[unborn delta]

🥱

[young swan]

nah pacemaker deadge

[raw magnet]

Ara kara trinket

[modest condor]

pacemaker just got nerfed

[covert blaze]

goated pfp

[thick fossil]

Not looking forward to double passive trinkets.

[unborn delta]

oh nvm didn’t see that

[raw magnet]

I am the bling

[young swan]

well u might spawn into raid with it but ur gonna replace it pretty quick

[unborn delta]

Double passive is goated, fury has too many buttons

[young swan]

we have like 4 buttons man

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-wait-what-gif-9000717621307637538

[raw magnet]

Don't forget berserks shout, our only utility

[orchid brook]

arms has too many buttons if you play skullsplit

[summer quail]

yes it has raging blow and raging blow and raging blow

[orchid brook]

fury doesnt have too many buttons ever

[unborn delta]

No pepedent emote to signify I’m baiting 🥺

In mop it kinda does

[young swan]

yeah mop fury is bloated

but thats just mop in general

[thick fossil]

Everything is bloated in Mop

[orchid brook]

I was a chaos bolt and stormblast enjoyer in mop, idk what warriors were up to

[unborn delta]

I got 4 bars on my arms warr rn in mop

[south kayak]

Yeah Mop was when everyone had everything

and the most amount of buttons ever

The rotation doesn't really feel bloated

it's the amount of cds, utlities and shit you have

[thick fossil]

Glad I skipped it

[unborn delta]

tbh I just hate active trinkets that don’t line up with avatar

Like best in slots

[south kayak]

MoP Fury was basically like 4 buttons

[sudden ice]

I just hate active trinkets period

[raw magnet]

Although delve trinkets arent very powerful, at least mid-gearing i bet some are alright

Mind-fracturing odium is a primary stat passive with a built up haste proc, could be useful

[earnest canyon]

You could say that trinket is....ODIOUS

https://tenor.com/view/rpx-syria-mic-drop-gif-19149907

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/rwby-rwby-weiss-weiss-schnee-gif-24959465

[winter shoal]

Nah they shot that thing in the head

[radiant plank]

You will be begging your loot council for 2x raid trinkets

[winter shoal]

It's shit now

[raw magnet]

welp

If i get a trinket im just gonna sim it and cry

[winter shoal]

I think the only delve trinket worth anything is void fragment and even that one is kinda stinky

[radiant plank]

arcanocore, antenna, arakara, ticking sack

[thick fossil]

It'll be fine if you get it week 1. Though easily replaced.

[winter shoal]

tbf that's what you should do anyways

[radiant plank]

Cursed idol still decent for aoe imo

ppl r over reacting

[winter shoal]

ticky sack good?

I never tested it on pter

ptr

[radiant plank]

Yeah its buffed

by alot

probably a good bet for raid

[raw magnet]

Yeah but crying is now part of it

[thick fossil]

Right, ticking sack is back from Taz. Hated that trinket.

[winter shoal]

Crying is always part of it, expressing emotion is healthy 👍

[raw magnet]

This season I had omegaluck outside of tertiaries

My luck gone

used up

[winter shoal]

No surely your client just has the god rng seed

Luck will persist

Trust

[thick fossil]

Speed terts!

[brittle crow]

disaster has struck there's a secret 6th plushie that i need to buy now

these plushies are obliterating my finances

[winter shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-get-some-help-gif-15058124

[brittle crow]

i was gonna limit myself to the 5! but the 5th is part of a set with 6

[thick fossil]

These better not be horse girl plushies.

[brittle crow]

they're teto plushies

[thick fossil]

What the hell is that?

Is that a V-tuber?

[brittle crow]

ick

id never

[earnest canyon]

just buy some cheap cushions and a permanent marker and draw faces on them. they will have the same functionality

[thick fossil]

[brittle crow]

cushions dont have a SOUL

plushie assembly lines put a real human soul in it

there's a machine for it

[earnest canyon]

aye the 11 year old kids working 12hr days to make them have their souls sapped out for $1 a day

[brittle crow]

that's important!

[thick fossil]

Poor little Ping, he only has 8 fingers left. Cause he made two mistakes on the production line.

That's also how old he is.

[earnest canyon]

This is why I will never be an entrepreneur....same as the dude (s) that made millions off those funko pop things:
My brain - Lmao who the fuck would buy this cheap plastic crap that sits on a shelf and just gathers dust
Millions of people - OMG I JUST GOT THOR FUNKO, it's so cool! It does literally nothing, but it's so cool

[glad coyote]

just invest in these companies thats what i do

aka roblox

[brittle crow]

that's why u buy nenderoids instead

[winter shoal]

You ever read a book called Warbreaker

[brittle crow]

they're customizable!

[thick fossil]

I have a few, but it's the ppl that go after whole collections I don't get.

They are kinda soulless looking, but if it's from IPs you really like I don't see an issue.

[earnest canyon]

People like what they like, I'm saying I'm the issue

[brittle crow]

funko pops have no souls they are soulless automatons

they will eat your kidney in your sleep

[spare steppe]

Great book

[winter shoal]

I'm gonna be honest I don't remember 3/4 of the book

But I do remember people being forced to sell their souls for money to the upper class

[feral ivy]

Naguura list.. anything else she missing?

[heavy galleon]

"have fun"

[feral ivy]

She did mention perma aug rune which you can get from farming the rep or wait 8 weeks

Oh valor stones not resetting ?? That’s pretty cool

[iron holly]

is fury in the dumps come season 3 or are we ok? I skipped all of s2 and coming back now

[plush zephyr]

Very okay

[dense sedge]

It’s looking promising bro

[thick fossil]

Well, we're not dobby tier.

[dense sedge]

Bonk squad is back baby

My Tauren warrior is smiling

The little bitch

[summer quail]

maybe if we were we could match MM hunter

[plush zephyr]

Did max move hunters up?

[summer quail]

yes

[plush zephyr]

😂 figured

[thick fossil]

[iron holly]

ok good to know thanks friends 🙂

[south kayak]

I'd say we're pretty good for M+

[plush zephyr]

I think they’re trying to make BM a 1 button class

[plush zephyr]

Shiiiit fury st looking good in raid too

[south kayak]

You can't play bm if you're only spamming one button

[summer quail]

he moved MM to A tier for m+ and to B for raid. idk much about raid but A for m+ is way more accurate

[young swan]

fury st is looking good* not in raid

[south kayak]

Def

[thick fossil]

Yeah, the poddy c committee list made a lot more sense.

[young swan]

b-tier is like

very accurate

for fury next season

[frank dawn]

inc more aura buff

a-tier for sure

[winter shoal]

B tier in raid imo is like "you maybe bring one, you probably don't bring more than one", which sounds pretty correct

Given how strong pwar is

[raw magnet]

S tier single minded fury niche m+ inc

[sullen dove]

its gonna be a tier in my hands

[young swan]

have to get whole new cds to be a-tier

[frank dawn]

f

[brittle crow]

like odyns

readd odyns

[sullen dove]

have to play RA in the season for it to be a tier

constant truth

[sullen dove]

fury is dogshit unless you ra in raid

[winter shoal]

Mods ban him

[young swan]

I think a-tier for dps specs is basically "you will run this even tho it shares a buff with a tank or healer"

b-tier is replaced by tank/healer but not unplayably bad

maybe we're saying the same thing

[winter shoal]

My headcanon for raid is
S: You always bring multiple
A: You always bring one, sometimes bring multiple
B: You sometimes bring one, probably not multiple
C: Probably don't bring one
D: Definitely don't bring one

If pwar weren't strong, you'd always bring a dps warrior

Hence A tier

[young swan]

I dont think thats true

pwar could get nerfed and i think you'd still prefer pwar over fury

[south kayak]

Back to dooming I see

[young swan]

not even dooming

[thick fossil]

Depends on how big of a nerf Pwar gets hit with.

[young swan]

i dont think the sky is falling

this only effects cringe people

[winter shoal]

Maybe so, but I think the distinction between B and A is still ultimately based on how strong pwar is in some sense right

[south kayak]

True

[young swan]

maybe in general, but in this raid specifically there is no world where fury is a-tier unless if it had warlock tuning

[radiant plank]

Sky falling is as real as furys strong aoe burst cd's

[winter shoal]

I would contend that my statement applies in essentially every tier for at least one of arms/fury, unless attack power classes are so far in the bin that you don't care about battle shout

[quiet breach]

any perky pill poppers in the chat?

[oblique thistle]

Guys fury is reroll
(Am I doing it right)

[winter shoal]

Needs more

[radiant plank]

react to this

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/tier-lists/dps-rankings-mythic-plus

read fury description and look at specs in C tier

[winter shoal]

About to hit a blood pressure PR wish me luck

[quiet breach]

casters op af this tier

rip battleshout

[winter shoal]

Oh this is M+

I don't play that mickey mouse game modr

[radiant plank]

That makes it even funnier

if u read and see

what Tettles has done

[dense elbow]

You can do this, we believe in you BigB!

[winter shoal]

Fire mage and fury in the same tier is certainly a take

[young swan]

sure but this tier has a lot of compounding problems that work against both warrior specs

[radiant plank]

C tier is even more spicy

[winter shoal]

Known moonkin sandbagger Tettles sandbags moonkin, more news at 11

[south kayak]

Tettles is the worst person in history of mankind

[frank dawn]

fury has strong burst aoe cooldowns

2022 called

[young swan]

tettles is fine he just has odd takes some times

[south kayak]

(I am joking btw)

[young swan]

also keep in mind its work for wowhead and it needs to generate clicks

[south kayak]

Yeah I don't take these tier lists seriously

[thick fossil]

Resto is gonna get the spot before the dps or tank though. Is it Dobby? No, but low B is about right.

[oblique thistle]

Season 1 all over again 🙂

[warm crag]

idk spelling error in balance section is also really funny

[winter shoal]

Honestly my bigger beef with this article is the keyboard and screen reader accessibility, who the fuck thought making the left nav focus before the main content and then having just a text representation of the tier list instead of reading it using html table semantics made any sense at all

[quiet breach]

bigbowll did u make that "press execute kaching" weakaura

[winter shoal]

I made one of them

[quiet breach]

the one that's better than the pinned one

[winter shoal]

Cone made the other

Which one is better is a matter of personal preference

[quiet breach]

oh shit I think I'm using conss

[winter shoal]

Mine is better for me because I made it specifically for my use case

Mine doesn't kaching so if yours does, it's Cone's

[undone flower]

Absolutely no human did worst than Tettles you goddam right

[quiet breach]

@bitter palm @winter shoal are u gonna update yours on new season and for tier set? your execute wa

[winter shoal]

Crazy work with the double ping

Yes

[quiet breach]

srry lol

[south kayak]

I think Azor is worse if we're talking about TCs and "main" guys for classes

[winter shoal]

I kind of already have but waiting for APL to be finalized

[south kayak]

@winter shoal

[winter shoal]

Reminds me of people at work who message me and also @ me in the message

[south kayak]

[winter shoal]

Like my #3 pet peeve on this planet

[south kayak]

I once did that lol

[young swan]

@winter shoal like this

[winter shoal]

I think I've gotten 4 or 5 of them today and it's only 2:30

[quiet breach]

reply ping AND @

pog

[south kayak]

it only tags you once

even if you did that

so it doesn't matter

[winter shoal]

Discord does

Teams gives you two notifications

[south kayak]

gg

[thick fossil]

I hate Teams.

[winter shoal]

Did you ever use skype for business

That shit was so bad

[south kayak]

No but I used it in general back then

[undone flower]

I was 10. A lot of businesss done with Skype yes

[thick fossil]

No, it wasn't secure enough. Teams is fine though. It's just teaching dinosaurs to use it.

[winter shoal]

"Skype for Business" was a separate product from mainline Skype

[bitter palm]

no cause im not playing warrior for the first time

[winter shoal]

IIRC it was originally called Lync or something like that but they got bought out

[cobalt relic]

do guides etc come up tmrw?

[quiet breach]

bigbowll can u send ur execute WA so I can switch to yours

since cone isn't updating

[winter shoal]

https://wago.io/ZTGWfik5P

[young swan]

they're up now

[undone flower]

And a feet pic

[quiet breach]

ty

[winter shoal]

I'm like 90% sure Cone is fucking with you though

[cobalt relic]

WTF

[radiant plank]

the conditions

[winter shoal]

Also mine hasn't been updated for 11.2

[cobalt relic]

link ols

[radiant plank]

arent changing

[cobalt relic]

pls

[radiant plank]

so you dont need updated wa

[winter shoal]

2mfe check for fury innit

[young swan]

just go to wowhead?

[radiant plank]

arms one isnt*

[winter shoal]

Arms

[cobalt relic]

I said please..

🥺

[young swan]

im not a google search engine

[cobalt relic]

ur better than that..

[undone flower]

https://www.wowhead.com

[bitter palm]

nah im fr

fuck this class

wanna push m+

why would i torture myself

[winter shoal]

Hello google dot com how do I talk to a woman in real life please and thank you

[bitter palm]

• specs play bad

[young swan]

couldnt tell u

[radiant plank]

go back to making music..

[bitter palm]

hi not a google search engine

[south kayak]

I’m gonna main priest heal so I’m either playing SP for m+ or another class

[bitter palm]

im just gonna blast assa sub

[south kayak]

Eww

[bitter palm]

assa bad in raid = untouched in m+

ez

[undone flower]

I didn’t choose a second char yet

[bitter palm]

me neither

xdd

[south kayak]

I think mine is gonna be DK

Or hunter

[bitter palm]

bro says eww to rogue

[thick fossil]

I have an 80 Hunter, but it's gonna keep being an herb farmer as it always has been.

[bitter palm]

and then says he is gonna play dk

hoooly

[winter shoal]

Fdk is fun

[south kayak]

Dk is infinitely more fun than rogue lol

[winter shoal]

Rogue is only fun on 5+ targets

[bitter palm]

not for me

cba with the 1 2 3 gameplay

braindead like fury and ret

[undone flower]

Yeah I think I’ll keep playing my bdk and my rdruid on the side