fury

[young swan]

progression should be limited at the start of the season

[unborn delta]

Please blizzard, fuck up and don’t obsolete the golden valor stones from vault

[flat river]

Me neither 😭

[thick fossil]

You mean the weekly cap of crests?

[young swan]

no i think that should be there

they just need to get rid of it earlier

say when HoF fills

[thick fossil]

That's fair

[echo rapids]

Oh man we are gonna be cheeks in those m0s next week arnt we lol

[young swan]

i mean its an m0

it will just die

[thick fossil]

Why? You'll run them once a week. For 1 week.

Then forget they exist.

[eternal sundial]

pa:
image1 image2 image3 image4
@radiant plank @bitter palm

[radiant plank]

Tag Xan too

and its more like Img1 Img2 Img3 Img4 Img5 Img6 Img7 Img8 Img9 Img10

[thick fossil]

Da fuk?

[eternal sundial]

@young swan

[clever belfry]

but my slop sheet 😢😢😢😢😢😢

[radiant plank]

RIP pauck

[eternal sundial]

RIP PA 🥚

🪺

YOOO NEW BALLS EMOJI

[smoky vale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/965371616269848578/1322632669720481897/makesweet-kdo7mw.gif

[clever belfry]

where

[eternal sundial]

🪺

[smoky vale]

in your mouth

[eternal sundial]

GOAT

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/965371616269848578/1322632669720481897/makesweet-kdo7mw.gif

[bitter palm]

rip pauck

[whole remnant]

Rip pauck

[dense fulcrum]

u guys think that stoneform will be the move or keep playing nelf for m+ next season? (shadowmeld pot share the cd with tempred pot or hp pot?)

[eternal sundial]

reroll when clear

[whole remnant]

Just make a hot character or maybe a cool looking character

[eternal sundial]

(kultran for both)

[thick fossil]

My night elf bathwater shares the cool down. My actual one does not

[eternal sundial]

huh

[whole remnant]

🤤 when that kultiran bbw sitting animation

🤤 🤤 🤤

[thick fossil]

I'm a night elf, and an alchemist. I'm apparently gonna be able to sell bathwater. Lol

[eternal sundial]

i piss thus I can sell my piss

🧠

[clever belfry]

peak capitalism

[thick fossil]

It could be piss for all I care. Bring me the mats and I'll craft em for free, (when I unlock the recipe).

[eternal sundial]

crafting piss as comission is like mega ultra coomer hours

[modest condor]

tf is going on

[slim coral]

[thick fossil]

The new shadowmeld potion.

[restive peak]

What the fuck did I just open my phone to bro

[orchid dagger]

The nelf alchemical process

[restive peak]

Readin about BBW kul tirans and bath water selling

[orchid dagger]

Gotta bottle up that nelf girl bathwater somehow

[thick fossil]

Someone made the joke about it being bathwater earlier today. Now we're going with piss. Lol

[restive peak]

Terrifying lmao

[orchid dagger]

It's probably both tbh

[restive peak]

But NE and zanda are the coolest looking races so

Play those

[eternal sundial]

zanda is like

really really awful

[orchid dagger]

^

[restive peak]

Nah it looks sick in transmog though

[thick fossil]

Too much noise

[orchid dagger]

Zanda is like my ass after Taco Bell

[eternal sundial]

they walk like they have a stick up their ass

• troll shoes

[restive peak]

They swing weps cool

[orchid dagger]

So does nelf, and that's a pvp only race now

[olive wraith]

I’ll trade you bath water for title

[summer quail]

zanda has penis toes

[eternal sundial]

ask his team

[orchid dagger]

[thick fossil]

Is it reg troll or zanda troll that has the really dumb bladestorm?

[eternal sundial]

elaborate

[summer quail]

look at them

[orchid dagger]

Yes

[thick fossil]

Both, oh. Oh dear.

[eternal sundial]

photoshop some real ones on the toes and post it for clarity

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-up-hold-up-meme-fallout-meme-gif-3737350009659669155

[summer quail]

no but i'll post an ingame pic of their toe

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/awkward-stare-dog-stare-dog-brows-funny-gif-16229232

[vernal laurel]

Boys, do we have any doomer fury copy pastas?

I need to compete with the DK doomers

[earnest canyon]

You could write one now and we can all use it 👍

[plush zephyr]

Just go to #arms and take a screenshot

Can’t really compete with that

I mean… DK @ the entire discord so I take that back

[thick fossil]

Hunters. Oh man, hunters.

[eternal sundial]

Cut toes

[frank dawn]

tbf the latest round of nerfs do kind of make hunter bad, they were giga busted aoe and very mid single target, and now they are pretty strong aoe and quite bad single target and not very useful otherwise

[olive wraith]

We’d need to be a lot worse for there to be solid doom pastas

[olive wraith]

So a better arms

[frank dawn]

well yeah arms needs god, jesus, and the the love of thrall himself

[olive wraith]

Thrall is a shammy now

His love won’t do diddly

[frank dawn]

arms loves windfury, its the love they need

(this is still true right?)

arms has been ded to me

[hushed gust]

let arms be dead for a season. they've had it good for too long.

[earnest canyon]

Hunters got roffle stomped... sad animal noises

[thick fossil]

Are they actually doing bad on the PTR now?

[frank dawn]

their single target is real bad (as MM anyway)

aoe is still good, but not busted

[earnest canyon]

Idk, but according to chief hunter man they got crushed and mm has very high rng

I guess my new alt is mage

[frank dawn]

if they'd let flamestrike cast at target let they did ele earthquake I might consider it

but spamming ground targeted flamestike is a hard pass from me

hate that shit lol

[hushed gust]

mouseover macro, point at target, turn off brain.

[earnest canyon]

I just cast at cursor

This

[frank dawn]

yeah that helps obviosly, I still dont like it lol

[earnest canyon]

Fair enough

[frank dawn]

arcane still kind of fun, its not completely off table

[earnest canyon]

Never liked it after rework

[frank dawn]

It’s kind of weird lol, the tier set this season made it really smooth (hard to mess up)

Without that it becomes a lot more clunky and have to turn brain on lol

I’ve always kind of liked Fire, but the flamestrike thing and they keep nuking it most seasons has just been meh

Also as an alt at lower keys fire can be more trouble than it’s worth

[indigo arch]

fire mage in low/vault keys is antifun

[frank dawn]

Yeh

[frosty scroll]

🫃
🦵 🥚

[earnest canyon]

Lol

[bitter palm]

who plays pvp here

as warrior

[radiant plank]

I do

[earnest canyon]

Pvp in wow is like using a spoon to cut a steak

[bitter palm]

[earnest canyon]

Can you arms troll people change your names to like Nigel or Kevin or Billy or something?

Can never remember who is who

[eternal sundial]

look picture

[steel tartan]

is it joever?

[eternal sundial]

gg uninstaall

[steel tartan]

thought so

[eternal sundial]

rip MM

[earnest canyon]

Too many of you to remember which pic said what

[eternal sundial]

nah

wtf

https://imgur.com/YLdynj3

[dense elbow]

How cant you have their names seared into your brainmatter by this point?

[earnest canyon]

Cos only the number differentiates them

[eternal sundial]

i am the tindral gif

of a p1 wipe

[dense elbow]

Please dont show me Tindral wipes

I feel physically ill

I can even hear the guy standing in beam every pull go "first time, dying to that"

[earnest canyon]

Lol

[radiant plank]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898720803586048/1139166048583700582/vlc_23.08.10_21.54.09.gif

[spare steppe]

Tindral lag was the worst

Every root was just instant lag city

[earnest canyon]

Ran fine for me, at least as far as I can remember

[dense elbow]

Yeah, I had no issues, and I had two demo locks

Maybe plater or a WA going ham, if I had to guess

[radiant plank]

@dense elbow whats a cool utility ability you think warrior should have that nobody ever suggests

[earnest canyon]

Wa is great but it's resource intensive... Idk what I'll use next expac as my entire ui is wa

[dense elbow]

Would have to give it some thought. But warrior is about inspireing others, partly, through heroics. Maybe a shield activating on others absorbing some dam when they go dangerously low. Call it inspireing presence or something.

[storm rune]

Storm Shield has a nice ring to it

[polar narwhal]

DR for others the closer they are to the Warrior

[earnest canyon]

Heroic assist, where you target an ally and grab them while you leap

[dense elbow]

Rescue with extra steps, nah, also troll ability - plz no

[radiant plank]

More guys more

need something new

this is all old stuff

[earnest canyon]

Exactly, I'd defo leap off the platform

[dense elbow]

Dont ask old ppl for new things

Meh, what I would like to see - is the old suggestion of menace now also being an enrage removal, would give the talent point some value.

Its an easy one, it is niche, and it is utility.

[polar narwhal]

Replace SMF with something useful.

[radiant plank]

3 more guys

3 good ones

you can do it doomers

you talk so much about utility so give me some utility

[modest condor]

i dont want a soothe on menace

that talent is shit and i dont want them to add a real reason to pick it

[dense elbow]

Why not?

Hm, fair enuff

[modest condor]

also we're not even picking fear atm so we would have to find 2 talent points somewhere to take it

[dense elbow]

Got a fun suggestion for utility tho, Silm

I struggle to think of something that in unique, doesnt steal others uniqueness and is useful

[spare steppe]

I wish our self cleanse was a 2m cd and cleansed bleeds

That would be great

[dense elbow]

<@&257983573498265600>

What if it was reworked. Make it passive, that removes an effect on you ever 1min. But as it is automatic it isnt too strong in PvP. In PvE it is just neat to have, but far from broken. Just saves the healer a dispell once in a while.

[earnest canyon]

Why did you ping a mod

[charred path]

Maybe a choice node for charge that lets you push the creature certain distance if its not a boss mob so you can help reposition mobs?

[dense elbow]

Cryptobro was at it

[earnest canyon]

Ooooh

[dense elbow]

That is a fun little concept, charg pushing enemies around

[bitter palm]

anything else

3 talents guys

[sullen dove]

it would have to be like completely altering it to not be a charge pmuch

[bitter palm]

come on utility

[sullen dove]

like if u could do it in melee range sure

[willow cradle]

Bowling : )

[sullen dove]

but if you have to angularly move like 120 degrees around a mob to push it into a pack in charge distance

sounds abysmal

[dense elbow]

Make intervene an activate, AoE radius, that works as BoS - and is a reduced effect, 10% or so

Utility - makes the button useful for more than movement

[bitter palm]

intervene used already

[dense elbow]

Make Rally have that effect?

actually useful rally, pog?

[bitter palm]

rally is strong

already

[sullen dove]

i mean... its definitely a piece of shit in m+

thats like the only realistic util change we could get

make it not completely worthless for 5 people

halve the cd or double its effect or some combo of the 2

ah yes 10% hp on a 3min cd surely over half the other classes in the game dont have some similar group defensive on a much lower cooldown

inspiring presence low pickrate talent btw

[dense elbow]

Main issue is to find utility that serves a purpose, and works in all content types

[sullen dove]

good dr bout as universal as it gets

[dense elbow]

Ok, something totally out there - what if, when you heal the warrior, the warrior grants the healer 3% DR.

[dense fulcrum]

someone streaming ptr keys?

[polar narwhal]

Ground Stomp from Diablo 3 + Wrenching Smash to better gather trash (I've always like a lot of things Barb had in D3)

[sour anvil]

The team will take a look at AMZ performance in dungeons. No promises, but they try to make appropriate changes as needed over the course of the season.

Imagine reading this and thinking that 10% hp on 3min cd is stronk in 5m

[bitter palm]

it's stronger than current i meant

[radiant plank]

you guys were so tame and lame we r just gonna steal more paladin and monk talents

[dense elbow]

Problem is that we could steal

but that wouldnt be unique nor fun

[spare steppe]

I still want a shout at them Brez

It would be so thematic

[dense elbow]

I mean, we could get a unique type of CheatDeath, where when a targeted ally from 'safeguard' takes leathal damage, the warrior takes the overkill damage instead.

That would be unique and useful

[sour anvil]

Sorry but why overcomplicating it?

[spare steppe]

If spell block was too complicated that mechanic would never happen

[sour anvil]

Banner is the answer

[dense elbow]

How is that complicated?

[spare steppe]

How do we know what would kill someone

[dense elbow]

It is just a targeted buff

[spare steppe]

^ blizzard thoughts

[dense elbow]

that lasts say 60min

[spare steppe]

Ah the soulstone style

I mean I like but blizzard doesn’t like flex

[dense elbow]

you safeguard that player, and as warrior is tanky - they prob will survive teh blow. Can even add a nodepoint to improve it, making the overkill damage get 80% DR for the warrior

Useful in the raid, in hardcore content, in casual content, in m+ and even PvP

but not really broken

[earnest canyon]

+3% hit

[cold fossil]

What has fury overall looked like in m+ ptr? Thinking about trying a new class

[olive wraith]

Good

[radiant plank]

Thane is A+ tier

[dense elbow]

It's looking alright, its like a step from being great - and that is kinda where we want it

[slender glen]

Hello, I just came back from a 5 year break. I used to push keys up to maybe around 20-21+ (2400 rating) back in old Keystone Master days. Fury still as good or as fun?

[cold fossil]

I was our lust as mm but our healer is rsgam now and I really don't want to play bm - which appears to be best hunter spec unfortunately

[polar narwhal]

Druid roar is kind of unique. Could be added to Warrior too tbh.

[olive wraith]

See above

[dense elbow]

^

[dense elbow]

You want utility that would set the world on fire?
Tireless: You are now immune to exhaustion.
Yep, you can now get all the heroisms in the world.

[cold fossil]

My warrior is fresh 80 no gear, is there any season2 gear I specifically should target getting before season wraps or will I be fine with a m0 world tour and keyslam week1?

[radiant plank]

Already there 🥱

[olive wraith]

Nah you’re good. S2 stuff will be obsolete in 2 weeks

[dense elbow]

Dont give warrior a movementspeed buff

that is druid and monk

[modest condor]

monk?

[keen dove]

champion gear will be more than enough

[dense elbow]

Also Evoker partly

[radiant plank]

it worked in mop it works in tww

[polar narwhal]

Shaman totem

[dense elbow]

Oh, something I think most warriors would want, especially the PvP crew. Hamstring is now just a permaslow on any damage. Replace it with howl.

[slim coral]

very good

[dense elbow]

Hm, of all the ideas I sprouted. The perma slow one, is prob one of the better QoL ones.

Also removed a bind from the game

[earnest canyon]

I can't think of anything that is unique and fits warrior flavor

[dense elbow]

Unique M+ utility: When a warrior damages a casting target, push back their cast by 1 second, up to 3 seconds.

[raw magnet]

Imagine a world where the us a talent of overlapping rage with thunderblast instead eats 40 rage and does omega damage

[charred path]

Its not class tree specific but having blade storm or ravaged slowly pull mobs in one be cool.

[earnest canyon]

There are too many classes, never mind specs

[raw magnet]

Make single minded fury viable

[frank dawn]

Gross

[slim coral]

there is plenty that you can borrow from POE, Diablo and Lost Ark

[dense elbow]

I mean, the perma hamstering is just QoL. The pushback on casts, makes warrior uniquely adept at M+ based caster suppresion in a way noone else does.

I would take those

[polar narwhal]

i too like my own ideas

the spell casting delay is nice though

[spare steppe]

Gw2 too

Lots of ideas that could work

[dense elbow]

What were your ideas again? I only read one time you said "shaman totem" from recent memory

Ah, druid roar

[polar narwhal]

ground stomp from d3 + wrenching smash. it kind of fits with clap build

plus some mob displacement/aoe disrupt

[dense elbow]

I am just afraid that doing it that way, steps on the toes of DK

[spare steppe]

Warriors should get grant 2% secondary stats within 50y and carry around a banner

[dense elbow]

So another raid buff, or replacing our old one?

[spare steppe]

Replacing

Allows more flexibility

[dense elbow]

I mean, I dont mind it, as long you dont force the banner on my model

Shout should just be a passive aura either way

pressing the button is zzz

[spare steppe]

Not strictly better than others but the idea that warriors can lead any group

*command

Monk, warrior having raid buffs that are more specific is a determine to flexibility

[olive wraith]

Steal sky fury from shammy

[dense elbow]

Why do we need to steal windfury?

[spare steppe]

Like personally feel like mystic touch and DH buffs should be 2% more physical and spell damage and stack with each other

So that monks are wanted in non physical groups without obsoleting one of the class raid buffs

[junior gale]

Straight up steal POE2 warrior sound design

I need it

[polar narwhal]

add titan quest :

[dense elbow]

ngl, the cast pushback value for M+, now I really want that

cause fuck em casters

[olive wraith]

Not sure why shammy gets an auto attack buff when 2 specs are casters

[covert coyote]

probably fine with m0 slam but an easy piece of gear to get is the belt from delves. Quest in Dornogal takes like 15 mins for a 691 base belt, upgrades to 701 so you'll use it for a couple weeks at least.

[spare steppe]

Always been that way

OG windfury

[olive wraith]

Still doesn’t make sense to me

[spare steppe]

It was only shaman previously and then they added the totem in tbc

They had to twist totems back then good times

[earnest canyon]

I fucking hated that

And seal twisting

[main hound]

are we playing slayer for s3?

[earnest canyon]

I'd rather play a diff class

[rigid stirrup]

Wait a week or two and maybe they'll be a few mountain thane fights

[earnest canyon]

Thane or nothing for me

[rigid stirrup]

Well hope youre not in a serious ce guild

[slim coral]

Slayer in raid and thane in m+

Some fight might favor thane

[rigid stirrup]

Tbh thane favored fights are my fav

[earnest canyon]

Ofc not

[rigid stirrup]

Love me some degen padding

[earnest canyon]

I love it when I'm having fun in my computer games

[dense elbow]

'serious CE guild', tickles my brain in a funny way

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/wow4-warcraft-denathrius-gif-21896735

[bitter palm]

[flat river]

[restive peak]

Bazed how good are we this tier

[flat river]

it's not about good or bad

thane is so fucking fun

[olive wraith]

He’s memeing

[dense elbow]

If that is the stance you take

ya know Fury is trash

[restive peak]

I am 110% memeing

[rigid stirrup]

I'd like to think there are play whatever hero spec guilds out there that get ce

[dense elbow]

Guarenteed

[flat river]

they should make a toy called "Galastronk's Cooking Pan" that gives you a random talent build each time you use it

absolutly random

[restive peak]

By the end of a tier CE is a "did you stand in the fire for too long" check man

[dense elbow]

^

[flat river]

I'm a warrior so it's guarenteed I'm the person who stood in the fire the longest

[restive peak]

Feedin the "I thought warriors were tanky why are they top deaths" meme

[flat river]

if you die by standing in fire then you aren't a true warrior

you should be able to stand in stix fire for a solid 5 seconds and live

[storm rune]

Stix had fire on the ground?

Didn't notice it honestly

[flat river]

yes if you burned garbage

a fire pool spawns

[storm rune]

Must've been something the clothies had to deal with

[marble pilot]

They are all hunter mechanics

[flat river]

It was mostly melee that had to deal with it cause it's hard to see properly xD

[slim coral]

In raid I think we’ll be A tier p

[dense elbow]

No, nonono

plz

no

C tier tops

I beg

[restive peak]

We're B tier for raid, A tier for M+ I think

[dense elbow]

Go down to C for raid, and B for M+, and I will give you a stamp of approval for YouTube content

[wild mural]

mr beast thumbnail omg buff fury

[inland flame]

We're S in both because whatever I play is S because I am based

You guys are welcome

[magic geyser]

Fury or arms for s3?

PogU*

[dense elbow]

Fury, probs

Can we get a bot to autorespond to that, just add them as keywords

[south kayak]

Wouldn’t that be B for based

[inland flame]

You make a good point

[dense elbow]

You know what

I agree, we are B for bazed.

[quiet breach]

get delve belt

and upgrade it

[dense elbow]

Poor guy been told the same thing 3 times

[cold fossil]

Im coming off hunter, so assuming Im literate enough to read the comments was your first mistake.

[dense elbow]

Dont worry, here in Fury we dont read either

ya will fit in perfectly

At best you get a "TLDR.gif"

[inland flame]

Ya I only know like two dozen words total max

[dense elbow]

That is a lot of words

[inland flame]

Ya that was ten of them already

I have to careful so I don't run

[storm rune]

luckily you have 2 left

4 even

[dense elbow]

But he ran out

[storm rune]

oh gosh you're right

[deep hare]

@warm crag https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05b8U-mhGaU

[frosty scroll]

what on gods green earth

[deep hare]

me2

i got told to read this discord for the key buying drama spongie

but it was way more boring than i expected

[warm crag]

gotta get that seasonal key buying allegation in

[deep hare]

anyway to stay on topic so i dont get banned fury sucks arms sucks prot sucks reroll frost dk or vdh if you want to tank thanks

[deep hare]

why u got a twitch icon near ur name

are u like asmongold

[warm crag]

xan cursed me

[deep hare]

xan...

they give any1 yellow name these days fr

wait xan is blue name nvm

or well blue orange gradient name

[bitter palm]

xantage

[deep hare]

where is ERGA

i miss erga

[bitter palm]

ergaw...

[deep hare]

cone

who is arms troll 1

@radiant plank

[bitter palm]

walhe

[deep hare]

oh

walhe

love that guy

what number are u currently on i wanna join the arms trolls

[bitter palm]

idk a lot

8 or something

[dense elbow]

Highest I seen was 52

[bitter palm]

gio is 57

[deep hare]

gio kinda fucked up the whole number thing

[bitter palm]

cause gio57

[deep hare]

because he has 57 in his name

ye

[bitter palm]

true

[dense elbow]

No way

[bitter palm]

@smoky vale where is arms troll 56

[deep hare]

ill be 56

[final birch]

ask pauck

to make

3-56

[dense elbow]

Hero play

[deep hare]

he got hacked bro

rizz in peace

[final birch]

yeah and he had

[bitter palm]

ask pauck for mrbeast bitcoin

[final birch]

30 accounts ready

in his sleeve

[deep hare]

i love pauck

[bitter palm]

rodwave...

[deep hare]

@whole remnant hi

[whole remnant]

Hey

[smoky vale]

i shot him

[bitter palm]

hi rodwave

[deep hare]

wtf man

[bitter palm]

hi shot him

[deep hare]

you should be arms troll 2704

[deep hare]

u can do that in other countries too i think

[final birch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1397685633387987124.webp?size=96&animated=true

[deep hare]

guys i have 14.71% haste 76.52% mastery 9.84% vers 31.69% crit 679ilvl 100% durability 4 gem slots speed enchant 104% base movement speed race:human faction:alliance server:tarrenmill is this good for +13 key

[rotund ginkgo]

No only French people can

[dense elbow]

depressedtomstats.gif

[rotund ginkgo]

"you can play any role! Any race!"

HUMAN MALE WARRIOR

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[deep hare]

@fickle bluff

why is ur name cyan spongie

[rotund ginkgo]

Cuz he's cyan

[whole remnant]

@smoky vale everyone is waiting on you

[deep hare]

but also ur my favorite male human warrior

[deep hare]

check the pins

[whole remnant]

📍 due to calling linccstyle boosted gio57 has been permanently removed from the server

[deep hare]

📌

[rotund ginkgo]

Predictions for how to use embellishments?

[whole remnant]

First 2 sparks weapon then bracers

Gg

Like every season

[deep hare]

#unknown and #unknown 🗣️

[whole remnant]

FUCK YOU BLIZHEJD

[deep hare]

signet of tormented kings

[plush zephyr]

LOL

[deep hare]

i miss gio57

[whole remnant]

Okay i have the talking pillow now

Pillow: hey

[deep hare]

pillowpowa

[whole remnant]

I think ita time for bed. Good night.

[deep hare]

gn

see u in 5 months skyhold when some other drama happens

[rotund ginkgo]

I mean before we enter s3

[deep hare]

oh right yeah

[rotund ginkgo]

Like, where do I move my embellish

[deep hare]

signet of tormented kings + elysian might from the new legendary belt

[rotund ginkgo]

This is ragebait

[edgy widget]

it happens if the channels haven't been used in awhile, but the links should all still work

discord issue

names should return if you click on the links

[deep hare]

ye it does i was just yoking

[whole remnant]

Vaistios

[rotund ginkgo]

A friend suggested I just craft all items 681 so I can freely change gear slots and not be like "ahh I can't replace my X it has embellish"

Is this degen behavior or actually viable?

[quiet breach]

archi are u doing the wowhead fury guide for s3?

[winter shoal]

No

[edgy widget]

depends on how much money you wanna spend, but it's pretty degen either way

[winter shoal]

Guy in #arms said he wasn't doing them anymore, his friend said so

[rotund ginkgo]

I don't 💀

[quiet breach]

do we know who is

[winter shoal]

I heard Joe was

[quiet breach]

who's Joe

what's his ign

[olive wraith]

Super degen

681 is champ ilvl

[winter shoal]

DN

[ionic portal]

I haven't done much testing, and I was wondering what m+/delve trinkets are looking good for Fury (at the current tuning part ofc there'll be more tuning) thus far since I am curious.

[olive wraith]

Sacbrood and tbd

[quiet breach]

can you even embellish old crafts once the new season starts?

[olive wraith]

Pretty sure you can

[ionic portal]

oh gosh, I hated that grind

[quiet breach]

ara kara sacbrood and floodgate trinket

[olive wraith]

Other one might still potentially be pacemaker

I’m not sure if the nerf took it out of bis

[quiet breach]

can you craft stuff with fractured spark of fortune after Aug 5th tho?

[plush zephyr]

Can’t wait to grind floodgate. I haven’t done that dungeon a million times already

[olive wraith]

I think you should be able to. You don’t “lose” the spark when you redraft

[rotund ginkgo]

Idk

[inland flame]

I know you could in DF because I did it for some mog so it should be the same

[frosty scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/noooo-giga-chad-scream-mirror-gif-15250052683530088091

[rotund ginkgo]

My healer INSISTS pres evoker will be bis next season

[quiet breach]

I mean it would be hella troll to waste 90 gilded on 681 gear so I'm wandering if they would block it lol

[plush zephyr]

I mean maybe but are healers really that far apart from each other?

[olive wraith]

You won’t be able to craft the s2 crests

[rotund ginkgo]

He says sims shows pres doing literally double other healers damage

[plush zephyr]

I forget healers exist

[rotund ginkgo]

Like it's obscene

He does 800k-900k overalls rn

And threads of fate is on average 2% dps gain

[plush zephyr]

Interesting

[rotund ginkgo]

He claims next season 2mil+ overall based on ptr and tier set etc

[plush zephyr]

what

[rotund ginkgo]

Yeah

[fast mural]

pres dps is big ye

[plush zephyr]

I’m going to look up current numbers but that seems absurd

[fast mural]

but i think the tierlist is about healing

[rotund ginkgo]

Yeah he said it's gonna catch a nerf if ppl actually play it

[olive wraith]

Rdruid was pretty solid too I thought

[rotund ginkgo]

He doesn't reroll

He raids pres evoker and cba rerolling for m+

Pushing 20s with no shaman

[plush zephyr]

Pres main is dope

[rotund ginkgo]

[plush zephyr]

I like seeing more evoker mains

[rotund ginkgo]

Doing top and having to d-stance or u die on xav

[slim coral]

Also pure Sim wise slayer owns

and in testing fight design was favorable for melee for the most part

[plush zephyr]

Assassin rogue good lord

[winter shoal]

I'm 99% sure half those numbers are wrong btw

[dense elbow]

Boy do I love using ST sims to base things on

[slim coral]

they're being updated daily

[winter shoal]

If they haven't redone their gear sets since the trinket tuning

Cursed stone idol nerf was like 3% so I wouldn't be surprised if trinket tuning had nontrivial effects on the bis profiles

[slim coral]

they have sac and pacemaker for fury

so they probably haven't updated since last night but they'll update soon

[restive peak]

Bazed is so innocent, doesn’t know half the peeps that do this sandbag brutally then “find a new build” raid day 1

[plush zephyr]

Why don’t warlocks get more hate

[upbeat plume]

and hasnt fury always simmed really high but in live fights is where things kind of fall apart lol

[slim coral]

well these are bis sims

[fast mural]

also full ST sims

[slim coral]

bis sims are way different than going into a fight with diff gear

[fast mural]

no whirlwind talents

[dense elbow]

No OF too

[fast mural]

they should delete odyns fury

[upbeat plume]

oh yeah I was commenting cause basing anything off sims isnt the best idea so was going to follow up with does us being high in sims really matter lol

[fast mural]

they tried making it work and they failed time and time again

[rose bay]

we still hitting rampage over rb and needing a wa to push execute?

[winter shoal]

Did you mean RB over rampage for BF SS stacking?

[flat river]

ST or MT?

[winter shoal]

ST

[slim coral]

ST

[winter shoal]

If you're doing that much dps in aoe you need god

[flat river]

xD

[slim coral]

Critcakes throughts on Max's tier list

W @mossy fox

[dense elbow]

Hey, blended chicken, hell yeah!

[oblique thistle]

W critcake actually holy moly

also blended chicken sounds nasty lol

[rose bay]

agree with critcake after legion they just fucked warrior

[slim coral]

that's what all Gym bros do

[upbeat plume]

tyson wants to know your location

lol

[slim coral]

All Gym bros eat blended chicken

[tranquil nimbus]

where are the theorycrafted reworks at? i m bored

[rose bay]

really hoping that cause someone with a bit more reach cares maybe a dev will look at it

[tranquil nimbus]

in germany we drink blended tuna cans

[bitter palm]

W critcake

[oblique thistle]

Xantaga made one for fury sebi

and madox posted a video reviewing the one that was made for arms

[tranquil nimbus]

peak thank you

[restive peak]

Brother no

[uneven path]

For fury it's that rampage is holding the spec hostage, they managed to stumble onto "good" gameplay loop and they just won't give it up for full rework.

[rose bay]

i lke eating the cooked chicken it taste better

[uneven path]

Or this is my (usually wrong) opinion

[rose bay]

just rip the skin away and turn it into butter

[slim coral]

Gotta blend it for more protein

[rose bay]

i turn the rest into stock

soup!

[slim coral]

I put chicken stock in my stuffing

its so good

[final eagle]

you have the link for the spreadsheet?

[rose bay]

i kinda agree, i think rampage is fun, i think slamming rampage all night is great, i think that blizard is trying to give power to the specs in other buttens and is failing

its just wild strikes 2,0

[dense elbow]

It was for efficiency

[pulsar prawn]

des bedarfs

[rose bay]

they want it to feel good, but it does nothing exciting and procs nothing

also runing out of rampages suck

[summer quail]

more efficient to blend it. requires no chewing

[rose bay]

i just dry swallow

dont chew anyway

saving my pearly wipes for the after life

[pulsar prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/markus-rühl-bodybuilder-hähnchen-suppe-lecker-gif-26052121

its time

[slim coral]

it's locked behind paywall

[uneven path]

Yeh, but you get to point where the spec plays same for what 5-6 years ?

[slim coral]

it's locked behind paywall

[final eagle]

F

[rose bay]

so i dont really multiclass, but are other specs the same?

like is spriest still doin the same shit?

or hunter

or mage?

[uneven path]

idk feel like spriests gets reworked every season

[rose bay]

true

[uneven path]

I think destro lock

[rose bay]

paladin is the same no, they just hit harder so they good

[uneven path]

Is "same"

[uneven path]

They got DF rework

[rose bay]

gotcha

yeah ur right

midscope

I just dont play other specs, im 2 stupid so i just play warrior badly

[uneven path]

😄

[rose bay]

partly game design is hard, partially if it works no need to break it

but i do wish our nodes feel good

everytime there strong they get kicked in the balls

[uneven path]

I just don't enjou other clasees

[rose bay]

like, correct me but can other classes fuck up there openers and still smash 99s?

we can throw dr and spear halfway through our burst and /shrug

just not impactfull

[summer quail]

some can

[uneven path]

Nah, you have a lot of classes thet live and die on good openers

Like Demo, Fire, Arcane etc

But yeh

I 100% agree our capstones are piss

[fast mural]

we litteraly take 8 passive dmg increases instead of capstones

[uneven path]

I hate spear from bottom of my heart

[uneven path]

Yeh

[fast mural]

like how is this ok

[uneven path]

We have rampage

Hostage spell

[fast mural]

blizz gonna be like "wdym you always take avatar"

[rose bay]

i miss the one that made ww do a fuck ton of damage

after bs

atleast it was funny as fuck

[uneven path]

Bonegrinder

[rose bay]

from slands

thats how piss our nodes are

I MISS A SHADOWLANDS TALLENT

[uneven path]

Man...

[fast mural]

i hated that tho

[uneven path]

We got spear cuz SL

[bitter palm]

sl arms...

bring it back..

[fast mural]

spamming ww just doesnt feel right

[upbeat plume]

yeah probably my biggest complaint is the total lack of umph in our tier 3 class and spec talents for fury especially

[rose bay]

also having so much haste that u finished ur bs under the gcd

[bitter palm]

night fae arms....

[rose bay]

Nfay arms

:3

[uneven path]

They just looked at data saw most ppl ran spear and went "yeh ppl must love it here you go, no need to thank us"

[bitter palm]

:3

best arms since legion

[inland flame]

The world if we kept instead of

[fast mural]

actually true

[upbeat plume]

spear has gotten significant QoL changes since its old days, but it along with roar just dont do anything aymore lol

[uneven path]

Well spear was good thx to CDR from covenant

Since it was 45 sec cd not 1:30

[rose bay]

i would like to see spear go and am go

[fast mural]

AM ?

the hell

[rose bay]

anger management

[fast mural]

i know what am is

[rose bay]

I think its part of a balancing nightmare

[inland flame]

Imagine we got an AA that silenced things like Solar Beam

Imagine that world

[rose bay]

just make our cds short

[bitter palm]

remove am

make reck 45s

[rose bay]

i didnt mind aa or spear but i hate that its rune of power

[bitter palm]

we already suffer enough from downtime

[fast mural]

am doesnt affect the bad capstones tho

[rose bay]

also please make csmash line up[ with avatar

its so fucking weird

[fast mural]

its called holding your CDs

[dense elbow]

Ya know, I am kinda starting to join the 'make AM 45sec' crowd, cause AM just makes Bladestorm so stupid balance wise

[upbeat plume]

you dont stand in spear anymore, its a debuff applied to targets hit

[rose bay]

sorry, let me rephrase, i hated its rune of power variation

[upbeat plume]

ah gotcha

[rose bay]

now spears uselsess!

funny for if u need to kite stuff i guess?

[bitter palm]

am and slayer

[fast mural]

its a pvp talent now

[rose bay]

kinda, sept u can decouple the theater

[dense elbow]

Also, please remove CDR for BS from Slayer, make it more bladestorm dam instead

[uneven path]

btw how the fuck did they removed hands for dk before spear for us ?

[rose bay]

teather

[bitter palm]

just make bs static 1:30 it would gigafuck

[rose bay]

but yeah id like 2 see am go, and have a static cd, so blizz can ballance it

instead of making it piss cause how dare we push it twice in a minute

idk cds are fun, of actually giga slapping was great for a week im sure its hard to ballance

[fast mural]

or make RA good

[rose bay]

yeah ra good again

true

[uneven path]

Just revert changes to RA

Like...

[bitter palm]

the issue is that the damage profile gets problematic

[fast mural]

RA buffs our CDs now

[rose bay]

i know its ahrd, but id like blizzard, the company that i give some of my paycheck to, to actually make my class not feel like fucking shit

[dense elbow]

45sec works well for pack to pack M+, trying to play around warrior 1.5m never works out

[bitter palm]

when u do all ur damage in 3 globals

[uneven path]

Blizzard hates our cds

[rose bay]

bs 1 min

or 45 seconds

[bitter palm]

ye i mean 45 is very good

[fast mural]

blizzard loves avatar

[uneven path]

If then 45 sec

Since 1 min would be...

Not good due to avatar 1:30

[bitter palm]

remove it

[uneven path]

Avatar ?

[bitter palm]

most worthless cooldoen

to ever exist

[rose bay]

bring avatar to 1 min or remove it and make it something else

bump it to 3 and make us crank

or give us blood bath back or some shit

and i fucking hated blood bath 2

[bitter palm]

just straight up make our class tree what a class tree should be

[fast mural]

if they make it 1 min they nerf the dmg % we get

[bitter palm]

defensives and util

[rose bay]

class tree is just for rp oh yay berzerker rage

a spell ive had since 2005

now a tallent

woopie

[bitter palm]

ye i mean where is disrupting shout

[fast mural]

you dont like taking 8 passives that give us crit chance and haste ?

[brisk dragon]

does anyone have the actual link to that spreadsheet for the sims?

[bitter palm]

or safeguard

[rose bay]

i do

[bitter palm]

or idk vigilance

[rose bay]

i liked in in 2005 i like it now

its just a flat tuning nob but id wish they would turn the fucking nob instead of just sittin there

[dense elbow]

No. It is paywalled o7

[bitter palm]

imagine if class tree was like

[brisk dragon]

ty for the answer

[bitter palm]

spear for tether only no damage

[brisk dragon]

oops responded to wrong person

[rose bay]

stats are nice, boiring yes, but nice. I think that the fact our tallent tree has nodes worse then stats means our tree fucking sucks

[bitter palm]

disrupting shout

[rose bay]

bring back belf silence

[bitter palm]

bring back disrupting shout

[rose bay]

Hell yeah

well prot sorta has it no

with imprved challanging

[fast mural]

the fact passive nodes are better than capstones is the worse crime

[bitter palm]

fuck prot

[rose bay]

true

[bitter palm]

its not class tree

[dense elbow]

As long it aint on the GCD

[rose bay]

its ok midnight is out soon

[bitter palm]

dps dont have it when we historically always had

[rose bay]

maybe the warrior rework is there

probably not

but /shrug

[bitter palm]

group util and helping others

[fast mural]

they are happy with warrior

why would they rework it

[rose bay]

if they are then we must simply look somewhere else or grind our teeth and endure it

i am sad, cause im playing mop warrior, and i like having utility on top of unga buga damage, and i dont see why we cant have some of it back

i dont need every banner or every defensive but something that makes me go, my class can do this

dks can grip mages can blink, warriors can hit release spirit cause our agro tabble is fucked up

[tepid cedar]

we have the power of friendship on our side

what else could u want

[rose bay]

garrosh 2.0

but unironicly ur not wrong

[dense elbow]

I just want permaslow, autoapplied hamstring, from doing any dam. Then throw in pushback on spellcasts on damage. Then I am happy. Perfect for Warrior ungabunga braindead gameplay

[bitter palm]

we dont even have damage

[rose bay]

true

[bitter palm]

we have been

low on damage

since forever

in m+

[tepid cedar]

no rampage casting WW, and sucking enemies in torghast style

[dense elbow]

Please noh

[bitter palm]

the only time i can remember doing genuinely a lot was 10.1 pre Aug

[rose bay]

i would fuck with iut

[bitter palm]

as fury

[rose bay]

rampage auto casting ww was aswsome

[bitter palm]

ye fan of longswords is peak

[rose bay]

idk, honestly i dont mind the low damage, i dont do content at a % point that my low damage is a hinderance

but i do mind how fucking flavorless it is

like we dont do it in a cool way we dont got any pizzas or anything that makes us pop

i wouldent mind low damage if we where the aug evoker of melee

[bitter palm]

ye i mean 0 flavor

[rose bay]

banners, shouts, defensive and destablizing blows, cs make everyone do more damage

[bitter palm]

nah fuck that i wanna blast

[rose bay]

like fuckin anything

blasting is fun 2 but bland chicken brest blasting can get boring fast

[bitter palm]

just give us spell reflect intervene

[rose bay]

atleast odys was funny as fuck

[inland flame]

Ugh WW is having to hold Condy for 30s because of the 2min trinket

[bitter palm]

and disrupting shout

[rose bay]

big pull, BOOM, everythign dead

[dense elbow]

No. That is far too strong.

[inland flame]

Please god change how trinkets work Blizz please

[rose bay]

afk for minuyte and a half

[bitter palm]

if only the only 1 30 trinket didnt get shot

[bitter palm]

ye true

[rose bay]

instead warrior will have 1 spot for race to world first, and that will make blizzard angey and both wcl

and blizz will remove our damage

[dense elbow]

At best intervene can be DR, and it will be fair

[inland flame]

I am ready to crusade against the 90s v 2m trinket meme

Hand me the torch

[rose bay]

I hate 2 min trinkie

90 seconds or 1 minute

in be4 they remove warrior battleshout and give it to the new dh spec

[uneven path]

xdd

[inland flame]

Just give them Horn of Winter as 2% haste pls I beg

[tepid cedar]

bring back old warrior soul in all its gloryyyyyy

[dense elbow]

Give DK the raidbuff of:
Boss can no longer parry

[uneven path]

Trinket or ?

[tepid cedar]

trinket

[uneven path]

Yeh

[tepid cedar]

from sylv

[uneven path]

That one was goated

[tepid cedar]

yea

[uneven path]

Lost roll to guild tank

[bitter palm]

please dont

[young swan]

as far as "good trinkets" go, ows is pretty low down on the totem pole

[uneven path]

Almost broke my keyboard

[rose bay]

Convergence of fate

[tepid cedar]

damn it xan

dont ruin my memories with ows

[young swan]

thoks tail tip

evil eye of galakras

[rose bay]

true

[uneven path]

@tepid cedar tbh old warr soul and trinket from jailer were peak trinkets for me

[rose bay]

thocks and evil

but that turned into am

[young swan]

umbral moonglaives

[rose bay]

The one from wod

that made u do fell cleave

[bitter palm]

overwhelming power crystal...

[rose bay]

swoosh swoosh

[young swan]

archimonde trinkets

[bitter palm]

i bonded with that trinket when it killed me

[tepid cedar]

yea, the one that shuffled stats. i rmemebr getting it after m jailer kill and it sucking ass. was so disapointed. then the buff came and i laughed i almost deleted it

[uneven path]

Paired with paired with Jaithys... man sometimes I miss S4 sl

[young swan]

i have a very large bias against anything from SL

[rose bay]

grulls spine

[bitter palm]

259 ows bis in sepulcher incident

[rose bay]

deathrbingers will

[dense elbow]

To this day, I find this to be one of the cooler trinkies

[tepid cedar]

greatest weapon of all time though fopr me persoasnally

damn i loved gavel

[inland flame]

DBW was neat but it's nothing crazy by modern standards

Didn't it also proc ArP when we were stacking to cap already anyway?

[rose bay]

i dont remember

i just thought it was cool

turning into diffrent animals

[uneven path]

Yeh after buff it was really good, plus fun watching me fuck up M+ due to the dmg it did to you so I popped out of stealth

[rose bay]

it popped!

[inland flame]

One of the flaws of a secondary with a hard cap

[rose bay]

yeaaah

[uneven path]

Never really get into liking Gavel

[bitter palm]

back when warrior scaled

4000 years ago

[tepid cedar]

evil eye of galakras @young swan this was prolly my most favorite of all time though

[bitter palm]

(wotlk)

[rose bay]

bring back warrior scalling

start of expac, garbo, end of expac, below everyone else cause nefred

[bitter palm]

bring back warriors doing damage

[inland flame]

Evil Eye was a very unique and fun thing, being able to fit a Bolt into every CS.

[rose bay]

yeah it was the birth of am

cdr is just

so fucking strong

[tepid cedar]

evil eye, true gamer moment realizing u could have a 20 something second shockwave at the time

stun galore

[rose bay]

oh god remember be4 they nerfed shockwaves damage

in mop

and it was just as good as blade3storm on large pulls

/kiss

[fast mural]

remember when shockwave had a 300% dmg amp node in DF

[rose bay]

yeaha nd it sucked ass

300x0

[tepid cedar]

whaT WAS IT. u could bloodbath and bladestorm every like 35 seconds

[bitter palm]

sonic BOOOOOM

(0 big booms)

[fast mural]

it was a capstone of course it sucked

[rose bay]

it was a cool idea

[tepid cedar]

imagine eye with anger managment!!

[rose bay]

xde

[tepid cedar]

back to 95% reck like df lol

[uneven path]

I can already see the 3 nerfs coming to our cds

[inland flame]

They could bring back the mech where SW and SB dealt bonus dam versus bosses ig, worked well enough in MoP

No idea how that would fit into things tho

[rose bay]

just glue it into our bladestorm like we do now

[young swan]

best trinket ever made i think

[tepid cedar]

100%

was truly unique

[inland flame]

ig we should also mention Convergeance. Might as well mention Draught. Get all the memes out.

[tepid cedar]

now trinkets are jsut so generic

[tranquil nimbus]

What if Roar was an empowered spell you have to aim like dev evoker breath

[winter shoal]

Get out of the kitchen

Forever probably

[tranquil nimbus]

lmao

i m cooking

[rose bay]

Id aim at my raid leader and hope he was mced

Oh god

remember seigbreaker

or however its spelt sorry im stupid

[bitter palm]

what if roar was removed and that damage put into odyns fury

[rose bay]

fucking knocking em outa ur melee ranged

was just csmash 2.0

[uneven path]

12% dmg apm for 10 sec ?

[rose bay]

i used it to knock someone off a bridge in world pvp to they death

[bitter palm]

dragon charge in eye of the storm

[rose bay]

oh shit smart

[bitter palm]

on the middle road

peak gameplay

[rose bay]

damn critcake right

more fun to fantisize class changes then play warrior

[tranquil nimbus]

real

[dense elbow]

Go on

[tranquil nimbus]

roar animation cooler though

[bitter palm]

and avatar and reck was just buffed

crazy concept

of not having 8000 cooldowns

when u dont need them

[tranquil nimbus]

did anyone play reaver in Dragon Age Inquisition?

[dense elbow]

I wouldnt mind not having to do roar into OF over and over

just makes it feel clunky

Dream probably, would be to have OF and BS always line up, and the go is: OF into Storm
With TR allowing you to just send it

one global setup into BS, will just feel nice

[olive wraith]

Dragon whisper

[inland flame]

Dragon Wheeze

Make roar do 1,000,000% extra damage and make TWords give us something other than bleed dam so it's better for Fury please thanks

Or make OF and CSHB crazy good ig

[dense elbow]

If you add Roar into OF, valuewise, we are talking a really strong button, that will feel good. Then you can add Odyn's and Helya's Fury effects for visual flare.

(just make sure not to go down the paladin path, of making OF also give you a Hurricane Jr effect)

[slim coral]

imagine a massive helya spawns above you

tha'td be sick

like a ghost

[dense elbow]

While I get what you going for, the whole "summon an avatar" thing just isnt very warrior - that would be more paladin, warlock, DK, classes that do use and summon otherwordly powers.

Also, Helya got disenchanted to souldust in shadowlands

[woven valley]

We literally have an ability called avatar

[slim coral]

nah you can litearlly make it work

it would be coming out of you

[dense elbow]

I get it, I just dont see it being warrior in my book

[slim coral]

also you gotta stop saying "this isn't very warrior"

[dense elbow]

ya one step from having it summon aggremar, and he slashes your enemy

[slim coral]

Warrior litearlly has 0 flavor

[inland flame]

We get angry and we make things bleed and sometimes we set ourselves on fire

[dense elbow]

We take magic items and hit things with em

basically it

[candid falcon]

the closest thing we ever had to a fantasy was legion's valarjar theme

[slim coral]

can we make this an emote @young swan ?

[dense elbow]

Yep, but that is kinda dead atm

[slim coral]

If you want flavor warrior is gonna need magic effects

[candid falcon]

there are also not really any relevant warriors to sort of theme about

[dense elbow]

We got magical equipment, we got magic

We do use armor and weapons

[candid falcon]

closest was magni (thane)

[slim coral]

well technically arms could of had blademaster

[candid falcon]

i guess fury's fantasy is holding two big fucking swords

[slim coral]

They could give fury some lava effects like rashok

[dense elbow]

We had the whole, prove yourself worthy through your prowess . But that is gone

[inland flame]

There was a fire berserker barbarian hero class in one of the old Dragon Magazines that was really cool (I am not old)

[tranquil nimbus]

I feel like Fury would be fit to hold a Dragonslayer theme

[inland flame]

BAYLE

[tranquil nimbus]

sort of like dragoon in ff14

[dense elbow]

Fury could dip more into the Val' theme, and we could get effects from that. I dont mind us igniting from the power of our soul and that jazz, WoW is a magical world. I dont even mind if Odyn goes "you proven yourself worthy" and resses us to fight again. As long the power comes from you, I dont mind it.

Could we get a Val'Kyr themed hero spec, for more empowered magic stuff? Sure. Using the warforged equipment and body to fight on.

But having Odyn spawn in directly, or indirectly, attacking enemies on our behalf - just doesnt vibe with me.

Having us summon blades like dancing rune weapon to fight with us - just feels, iffy.

We get Remoria to fight with us? Emmmhmm, maybe?

[candid falcon]

VILE BAYLE

im not gonna lie. if there was a remornia themed hero talent that made you lose damage id still play it

[candid falcon]

fury hidden artifact appearance fit this pretty well

[tranquil nimbus]

Roar feels really out of place in Arms and Prot Toolkit but really thematic for fury

[dense elbow]

Dragonslayer Theme
side-eyes the whole of Dragon Flight
Well, sure... that would, make sense...

[young swan]

feel liek roar just sucks

sucked for a long time

[candid falcon]

was roar cooler when it auto-crit and ignored armor

[dense elbow]

Nah

[tranquil nimbus]

slay the evil proto drakes

[dense elbow]

They all became good and forgiven, gathered under that ice lady thing as their new aspect

[candid falcon]

yeah all the disparate proto-drakes and drakes Vyranoth reps now

[dense elbow]

Cant wait for the evil dude come back, and be like "Sister, I come to destroy the world" and she goes "No, think of our bond"
...
"Ok, I am good now"

WoW story writing

[candid falcon]

which is probably not a real solution but its the lore

[flat river]

Rawr UwU