fury

[bitter palm]

thats kinda what warriors are

masters of all weapons

we can transmog staves maces axes swords

everything

i mean ngl i dont really care but 2x 2hs is unique to fury

would be kinda weird seeing others

with 2 2handers

[hot shore]

Would be cool a retry Pala transmog into a 1 hander?

[mossy valley]

hello all

when will we get a bis list for fury

[bitter palm]

what does ret have to do with this

its 1x 2h spex

spec

letting fury tmog 2hs into 1hs would fix the smf issue pretty much

[plush zephyr]

what no stop

just delete it wtf

smf is just objectively bad for the game and the spec in general. esp players that play fury and loot spec into fury and never look up a guide or no one tells them to change it to arms lmfao

[bitter palm]

ye delete it

and let fury tmog 2hs into 1hs

is what im saying

people getting perma trolled by vault

cause they dont know they should put arms loot spec

[summer quail]

there's been a few people here that said they have been unlucky with vault and gotten several 1 handers in a row

painful to read

[bitter palm]

esp on first few vaults

where getting a 2h matters the most

[thick fossil]

Then we had the clown supporting dagger fury. Back in Dragonflight.

[plush zephyr]

.... Is it weird I can get behind that more than dual 1hs lol

[thick fossil]

[bitter palm]

real

daggers is a cook

[plush zephyr]

right?

dual 1hs look dumb

[thick fossil]

He did put a lot of effort into making it sound legit. Logs, graphs, etc. All highly tampered though.

[bitter palm]

respectable

[plush zephyr]

I mean, outlaw is fury rogue so idk why they would be so much effort into it lol

[warm crag]

dagger smf 100% enrage uptime

[spare steppe]

Dagger warrior was great in classic

[winter shoal]

My goat syi?

[thick fossil]

I forget their name. I'd have to look it up on the official forums.

[hot shore]

My argument is that other classes would like more transmog options too. Sure warrior does have more background whit smf and transmoging into 1handers makes sense. But if blizzard would make that kinda change, maybe they would have to do it to all classes (2 handed into 1handers and vice versa). That would prolly require more char animations and whatnot

[thick fossil]

For ret it wouldn't make sense.

[warm crag]

smf and tg already have identical animations this is legit just a toggle for tmogging they'd have to add p much

[hot shore]

One hander whit libram makes sense to me

[thick fossil]

Dk, maybe, wouldn't make any difference.

[ember cradle]

I just wish we didn't need to get two 2-handed weapons.

[thick fossil]

So you're transmogging an empty slot?

[hot shore]

Early season crafting is bullshit

[ember cradle]

Yeah dude

It's the worst part of playing Fury imo

[warm crag]

idk fury 2x 2h rules are crazy good

free upgrades for offhand is pretty silly

[thick fossil]

Yeah, at least we're not stuck paying for it twice anymore.

[warm crag]

weapon craft very efficient since it just reduces the upgrade cost of your mythic mainhand to 15 crests

[unborn delta]

we prob want to craft 2h anyways this season with no weapons for us in first half of raid

hopefully they give us consolation spark again at start that was goated

[mossy pelican]

2 sparks for 2h is the dumbest shit no?

[echo rapids]

This seems fine tbh

[ember cradle]

100%

[warm crag]

2 sparks for a guaranteed mythic 2h is pretty good

[mossy pelican]

It literally just is ass for fury war

Fine for everyone else

[sand crest]

I mean you get your other 2h discounted

it aint that bad

[thick fossil]

Why would you ever craft 2 2handers? That'd be some serious bad luck.

[clever belfry]

Liberal

[warm crag]

can you stop owning me

[mossy pelican]

Ye i did S1 because i was going on like week 10 without a myth track wep lol

[clever belfry]

no, its in my dna

[clever stone]

hey guys, new to fury. I have a WA that tracks WW stacks and I've noticed that Rampage has a small delay when the attack actually actuates and removes a stack of WW. This is annoying since fury is such a high haste spec and I find myself unsure if I still have 1 stack or not becuase of the delay. Does anyone know what I'm talking about/ know a solution?

[chilly fractal]

Hit your buttons

[undone flower]

It is a known issue, it does nothing but the delay on your WA

[mossy pelican]

Ye i got the WA but i stay counting

[undone flower]

Last time I checked it was still on the ptr

[warm crag]

ye they changed how parries affect ww stacks on ramp at some point but that made meat cleaver not subtract when you press the button anymore i think it was something like that

no fix unless you wanna write a silly weakaura

just count to 4

[undone flower]

It came out in .5 of S1 if I remember

[last sparrow]

wasnt there one posted in here somewhere

[thick fossil]

I just use luxthos grid to track ww stacks. Very simple and easy.

[warm crag]

does it account for the ramp meat cleaver delay

[winter shoal]

Tmy shared a weakaura that removes the delay, I'm at work rn so can't find it but search in here and you probably can

[warm crag]

goat

[thick fossil]

Yes

[warm crag]

remember to ping and personally dm @ebon junco if you want custom made complicated lua weakauras

[thick fossil]

It delays consuming the stack until all hits from ramp hit.

[limber oar]

[warm crag]

okay so it does not account for it

[limber oar]

Ya hes lost

[unborn delta]

How can they expect fury players to do this 😭

[modest condor]

what is 4?

[winter shoal]

The target count at which you bt over ramp as thane on ptr (maybe)

[modest condor]

sounds made up

[winter shoal]

That's bc it is

Sim variance is way too high

[plush zephyr]

Sounds like a fps/wa refreshing to your pc issue more than like, the spec or something. Only time I notice an issue like you’re talking about is if I jump on my laptop and don’t jack my graphic settings down

[winter shoal]

??? It was literally a change to the game

[hardy shuttle]

Yeah it removes the stack on the last hit of rampage now not the first like before

[winter shoal]

You can go back to the day the patch launched and see people talking about it

[compact siren]

Cool

[hardy shuttle]

I want to say Tmy had a WA that still was able to track off the input not the last hit but not sure

[chilly fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/fearsome-fire-time-gif-25075266

[ebon junco]

I can send 2 different ones that work for when I’m home

[clever stone]

thanks for pointing me to this, I think this is what y'all were referencing?

[winter shoal]

Looks right

[clever stone]

appreciate it man! this is what you made right?

[noble elm]

The highest number any fury warrior needs to count to because it’s simultaneously the max number of meat cleaver stacks and the target count where every other class in the game starts to shit on your dps

[modest condor]

ok but that still doesnt tell me what 4 is

how many more than 2 is it?

[noble elm]

4 is just two twice

[hardy shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/thelonius-tres-3-my-lord-gif-6328768746749870443

[charred estuary]

I thought I was going crazy

[winter shoal]

Tmy doesn't make weakauras he just steals them from other people and uploads them

[bitter palm]

true

[chilly fractal]

Whirlwind-1-2-Whirlwind-1-2

[olive wraith]

Dw it won’t be much of a problem next season

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-thor-infinity-war-gif-25139201

[clever stone]

anyone know how much we should be bloodthirsting? The crit counter WA indicates that we should be bloodthirsting quite often, and so does the prio list on wowhead. but in sims bloodthirst is not pressed very often

[tight oyster]

Anyone have link to slayer and mt single target sims?

[olive wraith]

Not current ones

[tight oyster]

The 5.7M number is before 5% buffs?

[sly dock]

are there any 11.2 guides coming out ahead of the patch?

[young swan]

nothing public yet

[young swan]

yeag

[young swan]

probably dropping either the night before or day of

[winter shoal]

85% outside of VC range, don't remember the crit % inside VC range but the weakaura will kaching when it's time

[winter shoal]

Every sim aggregate list I've seen has been outdated by 100k+ dps in either direction almost immediately, it's not worth worrying about at this point

Keep in mind that cloak/boot/trinket changes affect class balance as much as raw ability tuning does

[tight oyster]

Okay thanks! I’m a new warrior this season so trying to learn through the apl

[winter shoal]

Honestly it's not gonna change much

As slayer you'll exe more, as thane you'll BT more (compared to current patch)

Core concepts remain the same. Use cds effectively, maintain your buffs, generally try to use rage efficiently

[tight oyster]

So does the bloodthirsty weak aura dynamically change for slayer and MT - so I just bloodthirsty only when it lights up OR I have no other button to press

[winter shoal]

In single target it's the same for both specs currently

In aoe you press BT more than the weakaura says anyways

Next patch the conditions will almost certainly be different for slayer and thane, not sure what exactly they'll be though (and even if I was, it's likely to change by next week anyways)

[muted owl]

Hi, someone knows what are the BIS gear I would need to get on season 3?

[winter shoal]

It wouldn't be crazy difficult to update the existing BT wa to check for your spec tho, just another condition to add

[winter shoal]

No, and even if anyone did, it's likely to change by the start of the season anyways

[clever stone]

thats what i mean though, i hear the kaching like way more often than the sim indicates BT should be pressed. I am geared for prot though so i have 15k crit

[limber oar]

Jesus

[young swan]

Judas

[tight oyster]

Gotcha thanks - didn’t know that

[spare steppe]

Ascension should still stay as bis though

[winter shoal]

Probably yeah

[winter shoal]

Any chance you're hitting dummy and running a target dummy sim?

Target dummy sim will have the target always at 100% hp whereas in practice the dummy will gradually lose health over time. Since you BT more from 35-0 that could explain the difference

[smoky vale]

meow

[brisk dragon]

Anyone happen to know what items we are going to use as crafted next season?

[young swan]

meow

[smoky vale]

probably weapon wrist or belt

[young swan]

ascension wep + bracers

[smoky vale]

or just wear whatever robot says does well

[brisk dragon]

ty

[bitter palm]

sneaky chest craft for prog

[woven valley]

At least as far as I know there’s no green text weapon for us in s3 yeah? The only one I saw is a loot thing not a damage one

Gives us a bit more wiggle room on what weapons we want

[rotund ginkgo]

ARE WE BACK?

[smoky vale]

is that real

[olive wraith]

We back

[foggy canopy]

there's a 5.9M one out there somewhere. can't remember where

[olive wraith]

Just don’t ask the daily doom posters

[woven valley]

Warriors always doom, I will doom until we are the best 5 target damage kek

[iron portal]

They didnt doom in classic

[winter shoal]

There have been a bunch of simc-side changes to the cloak/boots that have fudged the numbers by a ton (like 200-300k) in the last week or two, I wouldn't worry about any specific numbers

[bitter palm]

depends but only people ik that do this are ones that actually prog fast asf and want all the upgrades they can possibly get

weapon is 2 sparks innit

[smoky vale]

or just get handfed everything like @ebon junco

[bitter palm]

true @ebon junco

[smoky vale]

i think

[bitter palm]

i think he crafted helm last tier or something

or chest

one of these 2

[smoky vale]

if 1h frost is good its prob just craft that

[ebon junco]

Chest

[smoky vale]

bc weapon dps > str

right?

[winter shoal]

By a ton yeah

[ebon junco]

I got weap in vault on 3 out of 4 wars

so i crafted chest n most of them

[winter shoal]

RWF guilds don't want you to know this one secret trick

[ebon junco]

Idk crafted items in this xpac

is mega cringe

DF was better

[modest condor]

these special effect items are so annoying

[smoky vale]

surely you also simmed helm chest leg diff no

[ebon junco]

They r mainly annoying due to the bad crafted slots being limited

instead of having a DF system

where you could have on neck / rings n etc

[unborn delta]

You lose crests technically when you craft a slot right? Bc the items drop at 2/6 mythic and you are basically crafting a 5/6

5/6

[ebon junco]

Not many more when the crest prices changed on the crafting item

season 1 yes

not since season 2

[coarse nest]

Honestly don’t understand why we can’t* just freely put them on jewelry

Would free up gearing a lot

[unborn delta]

it always takes 3 months to get a mythic neck

would be nice crafting it

[chilly fractal]

“Always”

[clever stone]

I was simming execute patchwork

[dusky moon]

Mythic plus vault items will be 1/6

But yes compared to raid items crafting costs more again

But it always did outside of literally the first boss

[earnest canyon]

@dusky moon are you the guy that does the loot spreadsheet thing for each season with ilevel and stuff?

[dusky moon]

I do a guide yes

[earnest canyon]

Ahhhhh then I was right. Some dude was asking the other day and I couldn't remember who made it nor the link

Is it pinned somewhere

[dusky moon]

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1WwbpkS28CeZ7_lqqWLdumjZV7_kwJeGEUQ2O4dWenOc

If you just search Larias it will show up

For future reference

[earnest canyon]

I thought I did

[dusky moon]

People search Lapras sometimes

:pepehands:

[earnest canyon]

Ahhhhh that was it, hahaha

[plush zephyr]

I love how serious this guide is lol

[earnest canyon]

Change your name to GuideGuy

[dusky moon]

We take our min maxing very seriously

[slim coral]

I feel attacked

[earnest canyon]

Wow is srs business....but i just ask in here....think I asked what SkS is like 3 times

[winter shoal]

New profpic angle?

[orchid dagger]

He's still pokemonmaxxing like a chad

[echo rapids]

Remaking your character to get all the renoun crests is really just going to be a minor boost for the first week or two right?

[gleaming siren]

mirror andy

[south kayak]

Based

[red berry]

leveling multiple alts and keeping whoever gets best vault is insanity

[dense totem]

With new patch having the artifact cloak, whats would be the next best crafted gear besides wrists taking in consideration having full bis at S2 end.?

[olive wraith]

S3 crafts or are you recraftjng s2 stuff

S3 we will probably end up wep and wrists

I’d say don’t stress your s2 crafts. Just replace when sims say

[charred estuary]

Still getting smoked in 15s on PTR by like 2M dps lol

I know it was worse before but it's still cringe

[brittle crow]

weren't u not playing wow at some point while still writing these

[dusky moon]

It's such a minor boost that I recommend that no one does it

That's why it's under the extremely degen tag

[dusky moon]

I quit midway through s1 but was bullied and extorted by my team to return in s2

[echo rapids]

Yeah i figured. You might be slightly higher ilvl for start of season week 1 but that’s gonna fall off almost intently

[dusky moon]

Nah. This thing is my spirit animal

Something whose rage is so incredible that it transcends its mortal body

Also I might die of a rage stroke any day so absolutely lore accurate

[glad coyote]

man, the only dungeon um not happy to see come back is floodgate

[brittle crow]

floodgate is goated

[olive wraith]

I dislike priory

[echo rapids]

This feels bizarre, give me floodgate over priory any day

[glad coyote]

floodgate as a warrior feels bad imo idk why probably cause we arent uncapped

feel like we are the weak link at all times

[modest condor]

both of them have giga uncapped pulls but at least floodgate doesnt require a 40 second long aoe cc chain to do

[earnest canyon]

What most people dont know, is that all the "water" in floodgate is actually piss

[modest condor]

real

[glad coyote]

lol

[south kayak]

Huh

[glad coyote]

floodgate is the toilet water dungeon

[south kayak]

Oh

It’s sewer water isn’t it

What’s the most capped dungeon next season?

Dawnbreaker?

[modest condor]

dawnbreaker is a mix, same with streets

[young swan]

isnt eco dome decent

[modest condor]

i think steets might be the most capped dungeon

[south kayak]

I think more dungeons should be made in similar fashion, to avoid pulling too many mobs

[modest condor]

from what ive seen ecodome has a ton of big pulls

[young swan]

hmmNod

[south kayak]

The first pull is big

[modest condor]

this depends on if you go left or right after the first boss

[young swan]

i didnt watch much just watched bazes video

also havent done it at all

[modest condor]

i did it once in the first week

mostly been watching streams

[south kayak]

They should make more dungeons like streets and dawn

[modest condor]

or top

or workshop

[south kayak]

True

[modest condor]

just hard cap the amount of mobs you can pull by dungeon design

[south kayak]

Yeah that’s what I think they’ve been doing

They just don’t wanna do it for all of them for some reason

[modest condor]

i mean floodgate is designed in a way that almost every pull can be 10+ mobs

[orchid dagger]

Peak

[south kayak]

Yeah that’s bad imo

I’m sure they can come up with many ways to effectively cap mob pulls

Like they could make it work like events

You kill these

Others spawn

Like a chase dungeon

[slim coral]

THe most capped is dawnbreaker

you litearlly are forced to do 3 mobs at a time on dawn

on streets you can pull more as many as you want a lot of the time

except the first pack

[earnest canyon]

no cap

[tepid cedar]

bro AI kinda lit

told it to use my in game model

[eternal sundial]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/965181691981357056/1332714601367867505/attachment-55.gif

[south kayak]

Lmfao

[warm crag]

we need to continue doing this

[south kayak]

Where do you find these images

[upbeat swan]

https://tenor.com/view/ic0niclisa-throwing-tomato-gif-23144061

[warm crag]

you have no soul

automatic doors do not open for you

[brittle crow]

this man is cooking🔥🔥 get him out of the kitchen 🔥🔥🔥

[eternal sundial]

I got it sent by a friend

[tepid cedar]

lol

[oblique thistle]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/patch-11-2-ghosts-of-k-aresh-goes-live-august-5th-blizzard-preview-bluepost-377955?utm_source=discord-webhook

[open wigeon]

1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4

[pearl sequoia]

perfection

[oblique thistle]

Hopefully more tuning comes during week 1, arms could probably use a little love

[latent matrix]

what are these swords ? Can't recognize them but look good

[thick fossil]

I do hope they get some targeted buffs to bump up their ST. Either to MS, Overpower, or execute. Would love to see base Execute buffed big.

[modest condor]

looks like mythic jaithys

[dense totem]

s2 stuff, I was thinking if it's worth crafting something else now, since we get cloak straight from begining of S3 .. and we need to replace with a new craft 🙂

[thick fossil]

That or legion artifact

[tepid cedar]

was supposed ot be jaithyus

jaithis

[olive wraith]

Dont give it too much thought honestly. S2 emb probably gets replaced with champ s3

[tepid cedar]

everythiung else is spot on

[olive wraith]

Wrist/wep is probably the best option of s2 crafts but not a huge deal

[latent matrix]

Yeah, really doesn't look like Jaithys, sad, I thought I found a new mog for my weapons (please Blizz let me mog 1h)

[flat river]

[thick fossil]

This is what I thought it was suppose to be.

[smoky vale]

wrong

gala

[tepid cedar]

right the ai model lookks dope af

[flat river]

right

[smoky vale]

you are missing wrecking throw

[flat river]

oh shit mb

[jagged forum]

another patch note drop in ptr and warrior got nothing

:/

[tepid cedar]

wee dont need anything else

leave uis alkone how it is

[jagged forum]

we dont have anything man :/

[tepid cedar]

exatcly we dont need it lol

[earnest canyon]

We have each other

[storm birch]

I don’t want anything else

[tepid cedar]

let us stay under the radar

[earnest canyon]

Same

[tepid cedar]

we are fine

[storm birch]

Then we gonna be In nerf territory

[jagged forum]

fine ? bruh im confuse or i dont get the joke

[earnest canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/hugs-family-the-simpsons-group-hug-gif-1410512644400424323

[jagged forum]

❤️

[tepid cedar]

im not joking lol

[storm birch]

Frost dk and Hunter getting brought back to earth is good for our relevance. Let us cook. We’re gonna be feeling 100% necessary in a phys comp that doesn’t want a prot warr

[jagged forum]

if they drop it like this we are doomed , do we have to say something ?

[quiet geyser]

Anytime fury doesn't catch a nerf either on patch week or the week before, it's a win.

[tepid cedar]

lol

[jagged forum]

🙁

[tepid cedar]

not sure if ur dooming but we are iun a great spot

[storm birch]

Asking for more buffs right now is a bad idea. We’re performing well

[earnest canyon]

Say to whom? We seem fine rn

[tepid cedar]

especially wiht some of these nergs to other classes

we are actualy gonna be cooking

in raid as well

[storm birch]

Yupppp

[jagged forum]

to blizz

you think @tepid cedar ?

[storm birch]

We are we are

[tepid cedar]

yes

for once i do

lol

[jagged forum]

ye 😄 im goona change main after so many years i guees to DH

[storm birch]

DH looks pretty strong too

[earnest canyon]

The patch isn't even out yet, and we are fine even if it was

[storm birch]

Nothing wrong with swapping DH but don’t do it cause fury is bad cause it’s not. Do it if you just wanna play DH instead

[jagged forum]

oxxy you only main warrior ?

[storm birch]

Yea fury only always and forever

[jagged forum]

ok then i will try fury once more and last time

[celest sierra]

That 5% actually put us in a pretty good spot . And with more nerfs coming to Dks and hunters , fury is looking well rounded

Now let’s not discuss this to much and risk devs catching wind of fury being good . Cause yall know we gunna get the nerf asap

[limber oar]

Literally what i said like 3 weeks ago

[thick fossil]

I mean, the biggest competitors got their kneecaps busted. Lol

[limber oar]

The more they nerf the overperformers, the better we’ll look

[storm birch]

Just look up some ptr gameplay that was released in the last few days and you’ll see our dmg is pretty competitive. Only people really gapping us are the broken outliers and they’re getting tuning as we speak

[red berry]

and they might nerf more lmao we’ll have to see

[limber oar]

Imho from right now if we get 0 changes more its a win

[celest sierra]

The sad truth is only reason our damage is competitive is because everything else is being nerfed

[storm birch]

Absolutely

[jagged forum]

gotcha thanks man

[limber oar]

Cause fdk and hunter have been chain nerfed 5 times in a row

[celest sierra]

So if they don’t touch us anymore and keep nerfing the rest we will content rise up

[tepid cedar]

well be positive

[orchid dagger]

And still clearly better

[tepid cedar]

the bnroken classes being nerfed

[storm birch]

Well everything else is being nerfed cause that’s not where blizzard intends spec performance to be. So that’s not really a bad thing

[tepid cedar]

is an undisclosewd buff to us

[celest sierra]

Yeh because those mofos we’re given the god tier blessing

[tepid cedar]

look at the glass half full

[limber oar]

Theres still more tuning passes to be done

[tepid cedar]

vs half empty

we gona be cooking

[storm birch]

We didn’t cross the threshold into broken territory yet so let us be the top line and bring everyone down to us would be nice

[orchid dagger]

Idc about half full or half empty if it's got piss in it

[young swan]

we have good damage

[tepid cedar]

we are at a place where if we play rioght, hit buttonms properly we gona dbe doing some top dps

[storm birch]

At this point you’d want it to be half empty no? 🤣🤣🤣

Assuming the intent is drinking it

[tepid cedar]

not like now where u can play perfect and gert beat by 1 button assistant

[undone flower]

[tepid cedar]

im exxagerating but u get my drift

[jagged forum]

um do we go anger managment once again ?

[storm birch]

https://tenor.com/view/youknow-you-gif-19056787

[young swan]

probably the worst spec u could swap to if im being honest

[storm birch]

Lmfao

[young swan]

it plays like utter dogshit

[orchid dagger]

Implying I'm still on woyer

[storm birch]

Fair

[young swan]

ye

[orchid dagger]

Because fuck that lol

[jagged forum]

how is the rotation doing in this dung pool

[deep sapphire]

So I was trying to log onto the PTR to test out Fury in some keys but it's saying the server is incompatible and there are no updates for it. Anyone have a clue?

[young swan]

solid

[jagged forum]

sweet then

[young swan]

tblast makes up like 30% of our damage and is only softcapped so we're quite a bit better off

[jagged forum]

i saw some videos that they play spear no ?

[tepid cedar]

hey xan

[young swan]

hey apoc

[tepid cedar]

do we know when official apl will be dropping?

or a prelim

[young swan]

uhhhh

no idea tbh

[tepid cedar]

all gucci

[young swan]

if we dont get it tuesday it'll be on raid release

actually id guess not until raid release cause a lot of the "new" stuff in the apl is tied to the new tierset

[modest condor]

you can, but it's like 0.5% difference

spear is better on aoe and worse on st

[jagged forum]

thanks !

[deep sapphire]

I'm excited so far, if we don't get nerfed Fury is looking to be one of the better melee DPS this tier in raid.

[jagged forum]

gn fellas i'm off cya i will catch you maybe tomorrow bb

[modest condor]

is it?

[orchid dagger]

Probably, as a pwar stray

[modest condor]

from what ive heard people are saying burst specs are strong this tier

[quiet geyser]

Well isn't that some backwards shit

[modest condor]

what can you do when roar does negative damage and 30% of your aoe comes from tblast

[quiet geyser]

Wouldnt this make spear the go to for raid then even if it sims slightly lower

[olive wraith]

May as well pick up extra stat nodes

[modest condor]

i think you're better off playing to your specs strengths and letting the burst specs do their burst damage

[tepid cedar]

just put in ion wowhead

[orchid dagger]

Welcome to Team Flat

[tepid cedar]

so no one chooses spear or roar

when blizz does analytics they see no on e use it

surely theyll buff it

hahaha

[orchid dagger]

Meanwhile spooky smf don't give a fuck

[olive wraith]

Welcome? We been here

[orchid dagger]

Nah, some people still cope

[modest condor]

a couple of us have been pushing just playing no capstones in m+ but technically roar/spear is still a dps gain so shrug

[thick fossil]

It's one talent buff from being obsolete.

[smoky vale]

the apl is raging blow

[edgy widget]

unironically kind of the best way to get something changed lol

[tepid cedar]

yep

[edgy widget]

but as Silm said, spear and roar are both still useable, even if they're very weak... and there's no real reason not to take them

[tepid cedar]

sad when thats how u get changes lol

[tiny jewel]

Hated spear during S1 but then again I also loved Odyns Fury

[storm birch]

I like spear a lot idk why. Although I do hate when my brain explodes and I use it in the wrong order lol

[tepid cedar]

in the fire department the only way u get things to change or improve is that it takes a firefighter to lose their life. same principles goes to anything else in life i guess

[tiny jewel]

I mean Roar isn't great now but I still spec it

[edgy widget]

Most of the spear complaints went away when they made it a debuff so you no longer need to stand in it

[storm birch]

Oh yea I remember that. That was annoying lol

[edgy widget]

the only real issue w/ M+ specifically is just that it can be difficult to hit all the targets, if they happen to be spread out for w/e reason

[storm birch]

And when it was light blue and you couldn’t see anything lmao

[edgy widget]

that's not even a spear problem tbh, that's just a wow problem with layered spell effects

[storm birch]

I’d just pop ER during a bad pack and spear haha

[edgy widget]

same issue with Ravager, Bladestorm, and a hundred other spell effects

[tiny jewel]

Yeah I didn't run it alot in m+ just raids...but I def dont want spear and ravager at the same time and thinking about placement

[storm birch]

Yea for sure. Spear is at least a little visible now though. I was just reminiscing of when it was spear of bastion and realllllly bright

That is was nuts. Actually ima go look to remind myself how happy I am with how it currently looks 🤣

[tiny jewel]

When did spear get added first? Legion?

[storm birch]

Bright boi

[quiet geyser]

Shadowlands no?

[storm birch]

Nah was shadowlands

Cause it was spear of bastion

[modest condor]

good old skolex

15 night fae abilities on top of a blue swirly

[storm birch]

Dang rewatching some of that reminded me of when I’d have my bladestorm cancel macro for single target

[modest condor]

hey why did the whole melee stack just die

[storm birch]

That was a keyboard gymnastics time that’s for sure

Yea lmaooo

I wasn’t active in warrior disc at that time. Did people like that night fae ability?

I did just don’t know what the community thought

[modest condor]

i think it was mostly neutral

people liked the burst it gave, but disliked that it required tanks to keep mobs in it

also it was bugged and sometimes ticks would just not hit stationary bosses

[storm birch]

Ah I see. Yea that makes sense. And the periodic interrupt was kinda cool. Although idk if that contributed to the stun resistance of the mobs. I didn’t pay attention to that stuff back then

[modest condor]

it's a knockdown not a stun

so no DR issues

[storm birch]

Ahhh. Nice. Yea that was cool

[modest condor]

people didnt really think much about it other than "neat"

you used it primarily as a dps cooldown after all

[storm birch]

Yea it had some good burst

[modest condor]

there were only a couple of places the periodic knockdown was actually strong, mostly in top

[flat river]

I miss legion

[quiet geyser]

Venth > all 🙂

[storm birch]

Maybe DoS? Shoot I’m blanking on what those mobs did. I just remember the stupid jump sleep

Yea condemn felt satisfying

[modest condor]

you're not gonna hit random abilities with it, the strength was in chain ccing a long cast, but most casts arent long enough to last until the next knockdown

[storm birch]

I wish that first patch they realized taking weeks to swap covenants was a bad idea

[storm birch]

This makes sense

[covert coyote]

But what about my MeAnInGfUl ChOiCe

[plush zephyr]

Saw someone in another class discord say “poor fury going to have a meta and then nerfed to death”

[modest condor]

fury meta

[smoky vale]

rogue fury will be meta

[thick fossil]

Beat me to it... damnit

[jolly marten]

😄

[tepid cedar]

THIS

IS

AMAZING

FUCK THEM HUNTERS

[jolly marten]

obvious, joke was obvious

[unborn delta]

we're eating

[thick fossil]

https://imgflip.com/i/a1uqpg

[unborn delta]

also, dimensius is add fight again

[thick fossil]

I'm going to hell for that one. lol

[storm birch]

Lmaooo good times good times

[wild flicker]

Smart People, what do you think will be our embellishments in S3, Duskthread Lining or the one on the Weapon ?

[summer quail]

the one on weapon

[eternal sundial]

Yall are so funny 🤣

Post that on reddit hawk tuah

[thick fossil]

No cantrip weapon this season right?

[restive peak]

Nope thank god

Get vault wep > craft wep > afk weps for the tier yolo

[thick fossil]

Then yes, crafted and vault

[restive peak]

My 1 luck place every tier is 1st vault always = wep, runnin on like 7 tiers straight

Then proceed to get fuckall for 6 weeks useful but we ball

[thick fossil]

I think I got like 6 or 7 weapon options in the vault this season. Tons of trinkets, but all the garbage ones.

[restive peak]

Had to dinar the fuckin flood trinket

Mind you the whole 4 months off thing caused that

[thick fossil]

Fair enough. I got BiS and HoC with dinar. Last one was for an offspec. Got my Jastor on our first Gally kill.

[chilly fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-shot-gif-10358343

[chilly fractal]

I can’t believe Blizzard RNG did this

[restive peak]

Ye I got BIS/HOC/Flood trinky

I got gally wep this week XD

[chilly fractal]

Hype

[restive peak]

Right, thanks for havin my back fam

Fuckin blizz

[thick fossil]

You know the week were vaults were bugged, and we got the same item in all spots? That was the week I got Pacemaker.

[restive peak]

Lmao

Nailed it

[chilly fractal]

I got pacemaker from 2nd vault

[thick fossil]

I even got it on my hunter's vault same week.

[chilly fractal]

Didn’t get a Myth track weapon until after my guild killed Stix

Stix Spunklover

[restive peak]

I'm hilariously gonna end this tier still at the 12% buff too

XD

Also the streamers rn, hunter nerfs aren't even on the PTR yet and they've abandoned them LOL

Queue the Toy story I don't wanna play with you anymore GIF

[thick fossil]

And you blamed me for over reacting.

[chilly fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-want-to-play-with-you-anymore-toy-story-i-dont-wanna-play-with-you-anymore-dont-wanna-play-no-more-play-gif-26906930

[restive peak]

No I still think you overreacted about fury tbf, but hunter was busted

I just knew it was gonna die

Cuz blizz hates hunters LOL

FDK is fine still which is WILD

[chilly fractal]

Fuck hunters

[restive peak]

Considering it got nerfed like what, 6 times now?

Including a 12% aura nerf

That's fucking insane

[eternal sundial]

imma play hunter next tier

[thick fossil]

and it's still gonna be pretty strong in AoE. Not sure how it's ST is gonna play out.

[eternal sundial]

sv my bomboclart

[restive peak]

ST it'll be lower but I think it still has its burst, which is good this raid, and its AOE

Frost mage is pretty funny cuz it's byfar the most boring and that's their best spec now

[thick fossil]

Explosive shots and 5-8 cleave is still strong. Especially with Sentinel repeating it.

[restive peak]

Honestly they're doing a good job, fingers crossed cuz it's still blizz and they're dumb

But the tuning is getting closer

[thick fossil]

Arms needs some love.

[restive peak]

Arms is dead, it's so fuckin bad

[thick fossil]

buff baseline execute for em. Get that ST up.

[chilly fractal]

And then the patch comes out, then the raid comes out and Blizzard does some wild tuning changes

[restive peak]

It'd need like a 20%+ buff I think at this point, I doubt anything goes well for arms for several weeks of patching etc

[south kayak]

It’s gonna be fine but not Op anymore

[restive peak]

Yeah, it's good

[thick fossil]

At this point I doubt we see anything till after RWF.

[south kayak]

Which is fine imo

[south kayak]

Fdk got 18% aura nerf in total

Not to mention the other nerfs

[restive peak]

I think there will be 1 more tuning thing before the 12th, but nothing crazy big

[south kayak]

Like 5% obliterate and DB this week

[south kayak]

Yeah, hopefully arms is buffed there lol

[restive peak]

I mean arms needs god

There's basically a 0% chance arms get buffed to being above fury by raid release, honestly

[orchid dagger]

and every other spec to be shit

arms is permafucked

also spooky arms exists

[south kayak]

I don’t care as long as it’s not down bad

[orchid dagger]

the shit in your toilet >>>>>>>>>>>>>> arms atm

[restive peak]

I'm 1 of those I don't really care which spec as long as we're competitive people

[modest condor]

i would say there's a 50% chance

[restive peak]

But I do prefer fury overall

[modest condor]

either it happens or it doesnt

[restive peak]

xDDDD

[edgy widget]

yeah, much more likely they'll just nerf Fury week 2 instead

[restive peak]

Now THAT I'd bet on lmao

[south kayak]

I think arms might need ST ability buffs, it’s already fairly good in m+ aoe I think

[fast mural]

not enough adds in the raid for that

[eternal sundial]

i think you should nerf rally

so you have less incentive to play prot war

[fast mural]

honestly nerfing rally would balance the fact that battle shout has no CD anymore

justified nerf

[eternal sundial]

im also all for removing bshouts in its entirety

[covert coyote]

battleshout CD removal is the biggest buff in warrior history

[fast mural]

you want to push us out of phys comp ?

are you mad

unless they make all our abilities do magic dmg

[potent granite]

off gcd would have been better than no cd though

[south kayak]

First time you can spam Battle shout since the beginning of the game if you can believe it lol

[fast mural]

you know people would macro it to every button and just be screaming 24/7

[south kayak]

^

It’s annoying

[inland flame]

if you don't count if you never ran out of rage sure

[fast mural]

but it would be thematic

[south kayak]

There’s a reason it’s on the gcd

[fast mural]

ever heard of class fantasy

we angry boys

[fast mural]

so its basically a rework

[south kayak]

Battle shout used to generate rage

That’s why it’s on a cd

[potent granite]

didnt have a cd on classic afaik, but costed rage

[south kayak]

Oh yeah that’s true

Forgot about that

[inland flame]

Ya thats what I was talking about

[potent granite]

the OG 2 min bs

[south kayak]

Was that the same in tbc

[fast mural]

guys we cant have bs be bladestorm AND battleshout

[south kayak]

Or wotlk

[south kayak]

Bshout

[inland flame]

Think it changed in Cata, in WotLK you could glyph it to be 4 mins, I think

[meager hound]

Battlestorm. Bladeshout.

[inland flame]

I didn't really play much of WotLK Classic I can't member

[south kayak]

Yeah I think cata was when it started generating rage

[inland flame]

Man its usefulness would be so weird in modern WoW but I kinda miss Bloodrage

[thick fossil]

Wouldn't be a new season without one.

[potent granite]

if i had to pick two things from og warrior that i miss are classic recklessness and classic hs/cleave

[orchid dagger]

Give us a build where instead of Rage being a damage dump we build up to max rage as it degens for a fat buff, and I could see it coming back

[potent granite]

not much else

[thick fossil]

You mean Death wish?

[south kayak]

Charge in mop classic doesn’t have a minimum range btw

[inland flame]

idk the old HS/Cleave were a lot of work, spamming your rotation with 2 buttons instead of 1 by the end of every xpac

[orchid dagger]

We have Death Wish, but they do need to make it pve again

[south kayak]

This version of death wish is a tuning nightmare

[thick fossil]

Yar. For me it would be CS resets on Tactician. A-la Cataclysm

[radiant plank]

im gonna miss my +1 luck ring and permanent flips on my velf

[orchid dagger]

Give us back classic engi

I want to bomb people into a full burst

[potent granite]

old deathwish is basically avatar. they removed dw when they released avatar as far as i remember, then it came back as a pvp weird invention

[south kayak]

Well then there’s no reason to bring it back

It’s avatar

[orchid dagger]

Full DW stacks > Swifty macro > Dead Healer Storage

[chilly fractal]

Old deathwish was such a larger damage increase

[potent granite]

thats because not every class had something like it and also because it affected rage gen

but not because of dw itself

[south kayak]

When damage done affected rage gen was cooked

[chilly fractal]

I wish Avatar increased your damage % by your mastery like Death Wish did

[storm birch]

Just got halfway througha 15 eco dome with scream of a forgotten sky trinket. .6% of my damage

i had high hopes for that one

😦

[fast mural]

dw they gonna tune trinkets more once raid drops

[storm birch]

Yea I'm sure

[red berry]

what’re the good trinkets this season anyway

[young swan]

sacbrood

pacemaker

[radiant plank]

Soleah

Void Touched fragment from Delves

[silver shell]

is the sim sheet from the last couple seasons still going to get filled out for s3?

[silver shell]

oh shit, ty!

[bitter palm]

didnt it explode

[radiant plank]

Abit but its still good

1.2% behind bis trinkets on myth track vs it on hc track

so if u get it early season vaultge it can be good for prog

[bitter palm]

socket angle

0 luc

luck

[thick fossil]

Oh shit, patch is already downloaded.

[silk wharf]

It shot to me yesterday, yea.

[sour tundra]

i beat the patch already

[edgy widget]

not a good change though

I get what they were going for, but it's... funky

• way too easy to hit early, allowing close moving bosses to outpace you
• halved rage generation when used in melee
• screws with popular macros
• adds another button to the rotation

Allowing players to get a little more on-demand rage generation isn't a terrible thing, but they could have just as easily worked it into something more ubiquitous, like Berserker Rage, auto-attacks, or even Battle Shout, all of which were already used in the same manner

[deep sapphire]

Yeah I hope that doesn’t become live because I don’t wanna get rid of my charge/victory rush macro.

[edgy widget]

Unlikely; it's not really necessary on live, since there are already several tools to help deal with cold opens and rage is rarely a limiting factor in the first place

and if they try to, I'll talk them out of it

MoP Warrior is fun to revisit, but it does have its flaws - like lots of keybind inflation, despite a really simple and rather static rotation

Given that it's Classic, I don't expect them to rework very much, but it's nice to see some targeted adjustments; the Shattering Throw change is very nice (even if Shattering Throw rotations themselves are still pretty shite)

[brittle crow]

charge/victory rush feels cursed

but ig i don't see why u can't do it

[vestal ivy]

it dosent charge and than cast VR, it just has the two options on the same button. works very well.

[brittle crow]

yea i get how it works

my brain just disagrees

i try to keep my binds consistent across characters and i have a dedicated "movement" button and a dedicated "self heal" button

[reef loom]

buff warrior

[brittle crow]

so charge and vr get split up

[quiet breach]

u get hero track 1/8 gear in vault from doing m+0 right?

[restive peak]

I’ve used the charge VR macro for years, CBA making a new keybind

[young swan]

pauck fallen

Sadge

[narrow fossil]

Hi buddies which enchant is better leech or avoidance?

[winter shoal]

Both kinda stink

I play leech but not worth stressing about

[silk wharf]

I think leech is op. You only see part of it's effect because it's so difficult for it to overheal.

[narrow fossil]

So the cheapest in AH?

[eternal sundial]

Apparently he tried to pirate sims 4 dlcs

Shame

[silk wharf]

It's for what you want. Do you want to accomplish mechanics faster and get back to dpsing, speed.
Do you want to lessen some one shots and ambient damage, avoidance.
Do you want to passively heal a small amount all the time, leech.

[winter shoal]

None of the enchants will make a noticeable difference in any of those

They will on paper but you won't meaningfully feel them

[silk wharf]

Well, yea. they are all small increases.

[edgy widget]

generally avoidance, though I'm a big fan of having a single speed enchant on bracers (big returns for just the one)

[narrow fossil]

Why speed?

[edgy widget]

read the parenthetical

1k speed on bracer is ~5%, which is a large return for a single enchant, more than you get for stacking others

as for leech vs avoidance, mitigating damage is better than healing it, especially since you generally have a healer in group content, though that's mitigated somewhat by avoidance not applying to all sources of damage

[narrow fossil]

Which sources of dmg are mitigated with avoidance?

[silk wharf]

Obviously attacks that are aoe in nature. Explosions, rings etc. things that hit multiple people. But also sometimes environmental effects like constant fight damage.

[narrow fossil]

With the exponential increase of dmg we will get in 11.2, should leech scale more than avoidance?

[edgy widget]

there's no list and it's not consistent

nothing about the increases coming in 11.2 are exponential, but incoming damage also increases in a new tier so... not really no

[celest sierra]

Won’t lie these look pretty good. Only thing that pissed me off is I love how they acknowledge how fury is struggling in aoe combat but keep whirlwind at 4 targets . Give us 8 already

[warm crag]

8 is not enough fury needs 9

[modest condor]

i think we need like 23

[devout totem]

9 is not enough fury needs 10

[celest sierra]

Yall worse then the hunter discord lmao

[devout totem]

Nah, we dont have dark ranger hero talent

[olive wraith]

Isn’t that just old notes

Like before our aura

[celest sierra]

Yeh but finalized . This is what’s going live next week. And they added the developers note to it

Which what triggered me

[olive wraith]

Let us blast on 5t

[winter shoal]

You can blast on any target count actually

[olive wraith]

Just give us a better cooldown for aoe

Of/roar ain’t it right now

[narrow fossil]

100 % agree, target cap is an old and outdated idea done to fix the problem of burst clases vs ramp/dot classes in m+. But the number of the target cap doesnt connect wiht the number of enemies you pull

[celest sierra]

Overall I’m glad our notes have the word increased in every sentence and not decreased

[young swan]

you can do the target cap well, they just havent

[narrow fossil]

I mean if the pulls are of 8-10 target cap of 5 is okay, if the pull is 25 targets, target cap of 25 isnt good

[young swan]

they've routinely restricted our only ways of doing damage outside of our hardcapped damage

[celest sierra]

Yeh well we play in a meta where it’s pull as big as possible . So if dungeons weren’t designed where groups can pull more then 5 then we would be godly but because everyone pulls half the dungeon with each people we will always look week to the higher capped classes

[narrow fossil]

And BTW in the 1st patch b4 the nosense nerfs odyns fury bladestorm and dragon roar had 8 trgets caps

why they nerfed that??

[celest sierra]

To be honest , and (rage bait warning here btw). I wish we can go back to S3 DF fury warrior . We were monsters and I hate that I voted for S2 over S3

[olive wraith]

I loved s3 Df

[narrow fossil]

My fav patch as fury was the last of BFA with corruption system i finished 1st warrior dps of my server in raiderio

and arms was supposed the meta spec

[celest sierra]

Aside from the 5% aura buff . It seems like they mainly focused on our aoe abilities overall. I wonder where we stand in ST

[woven valley]

S3 was the best I miss doing an odyns every 20 seconds or so

[celest sierra]

And it def looks like this season Slayer will shine

[narrow fossil]

In the sims i've seen. pretty good

[young swan]

sims well, raid performance is likely to be average - below average because of how many fights have damage amps + split cleave + forced downtime

[edgy widget]

5

[celest sierra]

Good , Idc about being r1 S tier . As long as we fall S-A tier I’m happy

[narrow fossil]

Idk if i can put a link of sims here

[celest sierra]

Yeh my bad . Increase us from 5 to 8

[olive wraith]

Thane st isn’t too bad

In keys

[edgy widget]

Thane is overall doing very well in keys

it may not be strictly meta, but it's definitely one of the better specs atm

[olive wraith]

We don’t need 8 targets. We need better aoe cds

[edgy widget]

good thing they buffed Bladestorm a bunch

[celest sierra]

Better then slayer in keys? So meta stayed the same . Slayer for raids , thane for keys ?

[olive wraith]

Yes thane is better in keys

[mild vector]

quick question about fury, havent played it in years, do we still not use slam, right?

[sour tundra]

and still never used in the mythic +

[olive wraith]

Slayer might occasionally

[narrow fossil]

I want odyn's fury cap and dmg back

[edgy widget]

Slayer is atually doing pretty well in keys; it's not Thane but it's not bad

and Thane doesn't need buffs lol

OF is in a weird spot because even if it got buffed further (it's already decent, just not really impressive)... it's kinda hard to fit into Thane

[celest sierra]

No warrior will respond to you while u have a frost dk as ur profile picture lmao . Jk yeh slam doesn’t exist . It’s the SMF of single target slayer

Is bladestorm gunna be the play over Ravenger now in Thane ?

[edgy widget]

Fury did in single target, until a hotfix this season buffed WW ahead of it again

[mild vector]

maybe pfp is rage bait? 😄

[edgy widget]

no, that's time you could be clappin

[celest sierra]

Gotcha so build basically stays the same for thane 🫡

[olive wraith]

[narrow fossil]

For slayer fits better

[olive wraith]

You can move like 2-3 talents

[thick fossil]

LMAO, fuck, now I got a certain song stuck in my head from that.

[tiny jewel]

So we going bladestorm over ravager in M+ now?

[celest sierra]

I won’t be back online till August 29th. By then I’m sure the buffs and nerfs will have been actually finalized . So I will go from there

[undone flower]

Yes, since we play thane we go ravager if you go slayer it is bladestorm

[olive wraith]

Read a little up

[edgy widget]

it does, but Slayer is predominantly a ST/raid spec, and OF has less value now that its not instant via Avatar anymore

[narrow fossil]

Btw only me think in other thing when i read OF?

[winter shoal]

Yes

You have brain rot and I'm afraid it's terminal

[olive wraith]

That’s never been mentioned at all in the history of this server

[celest sierra]

Lmao bruh

[edgy widget]

but now that you brought it up, we can have a whole conversation about it! smh my head

[undone flower]

Funky is sub to OF

[dense elbow]

The amount of times I heard the OF joke line, is... about a thousand plus one.

I am very ready for S3 tho, only two weeks to go

[tight oyster]

fury just avg in raid? I think we are second best melee

[dense elbow]

Hey, that is the spirit - good feels, keep it up

[undone flower]

You are not excited to do delves next week ?

[young swan]

any melee with a strong cd window and lower reliance on uptime will be better

[olive wraith]

M0 gonna be lit next week

[dense elbow]

Doomer spotted, send the SOS to armstroll battalion!

[young swan]

not even dooming

just being realistic

[dense elbow]

Doomer

[undone flower]

Im gonna doom in those m0 bc no S3 set im gonna still be a loser

[dense elbow]

Best part about m0 week? Keys with the family

[olive wraith]

Play slayer. You’ll be fine

[edgy widget]

honestly I'm kind of hessitant to make any bold claims there, because we know there will be class tuning and we know there will be raid tuning which is all but certain to throw any evaluations we have right now out the window entirely

[undone flower]

I’m gonna finally play with my new guild (outside appearing just on the weekly reclear)

[narrow fossil]

Is any guide for the bis gear next patch?

[tight oyster]

thats fair

[edgy widget]

the way I see it at the moment, Fury is not bad by any means, I might even call it above average, but it doesn't really shine anywhere

[tight oyster]

lot of stacked cleave fights so im hopeful

[summer quail]

tends to be updated at patch launch

[dense elbow]

ppl saying Fury doesnt look great for raid, makes me glad

[edgy widget]

its damage will probably be carried on some AoE fights, but how important that is really remains to be seen - generally add damage becomes trivialized very quickly after the first couple weeks of a tier, so while it's nice to be able to blow them up, it doesn't always matter that much

[undone flower]

Tbf I’m Happy with how tuned we were on Undermine

[dense elbow]

I wasnt ._. holey moley pain in M+ from bad community perception

[edgy widget]

so I'm playing it safe and just calling Fury rather average for the moment - maybe it'll come up a little ahead if add damage actually matters beyond the first three weeks, maybe it'll come out worse if they die so fast that WCL decides adds shouldn't count anymore

[dense elbow]

Logs going "welp, fury on top. Adds? Mage look bad? remove."

classic

[edgy widget]

fwiw, I also don't consider average a bad thing, but yaknow... lotta people got that Talladega mentality

[undone flower]

Yes maybe I need to clarify for unknowers of me, I don’t do m+ and I play prot for vaults (raid is my content)

[crude ridge]

no we don't want good add dmg

[dense elbow]

Not true, you did at least two keys as BDK

[crude ridge]

we don't need TWW S1 all over again

[dense elbow]

Happy lying, smh

[left perch]

Love WCL telling me how to play game

[narrow fossil]

What is Talladega? Sounds like pasta recipe

[tight oyster]

gotcha i guess compared to season 2 are we stronger. I think yes?

[young swan]

definitely

[edgy widget]

https://tenor.com/view/will-ferrell-ricky-bobby-talladega-gif-9483405463232632107

[edgy widget]

in a vacuum, yes
relative to everyone else... harder to define because general power is increasing across the board

[narrow fossil]

Only wrlocks and rogues are1st in raid

[tight oyster]

okay thats good enough for me haha

[undone flower]

Just 2 keys I promise

[tight oyster]

I know dev evokers warlocks and shadow priests will gap me

[dense elbow]

Not even 3k

[tight oyster]

but I want to beat others

[young swan]

rogues are on suicide watch

[dense elbow]

Till they stop sandbagging, and just top meters in keys

[undone flower]

I don’t push Funky, I play m+ as a normal game of LoL (I did all 12s)

[tight oyster]

they got buffed they are fine

[undone flower]

Im not a bdk

[dense elbow]

Not even 3.5k

[winter shoal]

Bc they're so strong and are going to be gutted week 1?

[young swan]

because their class plays like shit and they got pity buffs

[dense elbow]

They get what they deserve

[left perch]

But they totally fixed killing spree animation Mr Taga!

[dense elbow]

Vhys, how are you still a sprout?

._. you leaving and rejoining over and over?

[orchid dagger]

Slam is a button in pvp, but thats because 250% multiplier

[left perch]

My toxic trait ya

I will stay if I get a custom role and a sprout icon tho, let’s make it happen??

[indigo arch]

Is the update mentioning thane up there with colossus arms with new tier, or tuning in general?

Would love to just instantly go back fury and dumpster arms again

[plush zephyr]

I think it’s lame discord changed it to the date you rejoined, not the date you joined originally on your profile

[winter shoal]

Tier

Thane tier pipes

[indigo arch]

Curious if colossus arms is behind thane on overall in a key too

That would shock me

[winter shoal]

In overall they're probably similar depending on pull size

And how much of the dungeon is bosses

[indigo arch]

Huh. Neat.

[orchid dagger]

arms is currently trying to not Kurt Cobain themselves

[smoky vale]

prio damage matters

[winter shoal]

Not when you have an arcane mage

[plucky wedge]

Another warrior is mid tier 😢

[indigo arch]

Ah, so maybe a slight arms lean outside of say, a workshop or theater type deal

Close enough

Bye arms, cya hopefully never

[winter shoal]

If you're not pushing title just play what you enjoy and are good at

[smoky vale]

ive been converted by @radiant plank

[indigo arch]

Ngl I might go for title this season

[olive wraith]

This has been the case for a while now

[smoky vale]

hi im pushing title im not good at frost and i dont enjoy death knight

[indigo arch]

Fked around too long on alts this season while being a doomer

[olive wraith]

You’ve been too busy dooming

[indigo arch]

Lmao

[winter shoal]

Frost kinda plays itself tbh

[smoky vale]

my variance in my pulls on top

are so high

like

xddd

[indigo arch]

As long as i can doink meta andys idc too much

Could do it some as arms

[flat river]

I'm so excited for next season

[smoky vale]

i mean meta andys can easily dunk you

its not hard

[indigo arch]

Losing to some potatos due to character selection screen is ass

[smoky vale]

be better

[young swan]

did refined academy explode when refined did or are u still raiding

[indigo arch]

Have been and will continue to be so

[smoky vale]

refined academy split from refined was gonna happen before refined boomed and reformed

[indigo arch]

The amount of mm hunters and rogues and moonkins that can't beat arms is wild

[smoky vale]

i did mugzee yesterday i got lances on execute and had to go in a cage else wipe

[edgy widget]

with how quickly tier is acquired in a new season these days, I don't see much point in outlining pre/post evaluations

[smoky vale]

also unholy parsing is just get more sd during cooldowns

or crit more

[warm crag]

where is bazed?

[smoky vale]

like zzzzzzp

[smoky vale]

fierce

where is smorbsmih

[warm crag]

how did ptr testing fo for him?

[young swan]

defining the meta

[edgy widget]

making his own meta, with blackjack and hookers

[smoky vale]

@slim coral grats on your pc trial

[slim coral]

ez killed all bosses warrior looking good

[warm crag]

do i prep warlock or titan for next raid race

[slim coral]

titan?

[warm crag]

maybe hunter even

hoil cyrtarachne goes hard

[smoky vale]

what is a titan

[slim coral]

oh you mean D2

[smoky vale]

oh

d2

titan

[slim coral]

hunter too op

[warm crag]

hunter so op you play 0 for optimal raid comps

[smoky vale]

what do you even need to do to prep for d2 races

or raids

[slim coral]

not anymore hunter and titan were stacked for the race

[warm crag]

this one needed either degen amt of playtime in the ~3 days before race or you had to grind illegal armour rolls before they became illegal

[slim coral]

warlock is the one that wasn't brought

cause they giga nerfed it

[warm crag]

are you stupid

[smoky vale]

so its just rolls on gear?

and spamming dungeons

[warm crag]

ye p much

[smoky vale]

bro i kinda wanna try d2 again

[warm crag]

needed to know the meta so either be in the right circles or play degen amt of time to figure it out

[slim coral]

I had 180 super

[warm crag]

turns out pressing the super keybind is more important than shooting gun

[slim coral]

and 180 weapon when not in super gear

[smoky vale]

how many element things are there now

i remember they added a 4th one

[warm crag]

5 + prism

[smoky vale]

what is prism

[warm crag]

assemble your own subclass from select nerfed versions of real subclasses

(it is outrageously broken)

[slim coral]

stasis and strand were the 2 elements added

[smoky vale]

what a surpise

what would the best titan version of strand be

[warm crag]

still need warlocks to press f as orange man every damage phase at least twice so

[slim coral]

it does a bunch of empower melees

and suspends the mobs

[warm crag]

(suspend is dead)

[slim coral]

yeah crash is still kinda op

was super busted with the new fragment

[sinful spoke]

chat be honest

i got the coolest dracthyr out there

[olive wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/red-eyes-black-dragon-yu-gi-oh-monster-gif-10593120

[deep sapphire]

Why is your character only using one weapon in the Fury chat?

[sinful spoke]

your mother swalloed the other one

[slim coral]

W

[young swan]

so what was the point again

[hardy shuttle]

may the boot RNG be in their favor

[rotund ginkgo]

Yall call me master chef the way Im cookin today

[slim coral]

Imagine you can't pull the boss without a DH

[sinful spoke]

w

[sinful spoke]

this is ur tatoo or smth u did

[rotund ginkgo]

I did

[sinful spoke]

bro

ur fkin goated

where r u located deadass

[rotund ginkgo]

Denmark

[sinful spoke]

damn

[rotund ginkgo]

@inkbybar my guy

[sinful spoke]

ur too far

[rotund ginkgo]

I bet ur American

[sinful spoke]

[rotund ginkgo]

Loser

I have a friend in Florida

[sinful spoke]

wtf?!

@edgy widget racism

BAN HIM

NOW

[rotund ginkgo]

American is a race?

[rotund ginkgo]

Negative aura

[sinful spoke]

ur work is clean tho

[rotund ginkgo]

Ty blud

[sinful spoke]

ur line art is immaculate

[rotund ginkgo]

Nah it needs work here and there