Well tbf it also has all of its secondaries in crit. That's a thing.
#fury
inland flame
inland flame
But nothing nutty otherwise.
quiet breach
Fdk just got hit with a -12%
again?
sullen dove
eh nah since like a few weeks ago
dense elbow
its pretty normal
slim coral
I wanna get hit with a +400%
dense elbow
Monk is only at a -1%, they soon reached peek potential
guardian druid tho
holey moley, their baseline must have been abysmal
inland flame
Roar needs 400%
Roar needs something. They should move the increased bleed to something else so they don't worry about it being too good for Prot and Arms.
quiet breach
what are these dumb patch notes why don't they just do it like the regular patches
sullen dove
They do both
sullen dove
but that’s just the like actual spell id’s getting changed
dense elbow
Hm? They are datamining notes, not patchnotes
sullen dove
idk the one in the updates channels
inland flame
They do both, just ignore the dank one.
sullen dove
but like the spell id one is important to look at since that’s what’s actually being changed and not whatever the blue post says
such as archi or someone else finding out ionizing strikes didn’t get buffed by 725% but by 625%
quiet breach
idk the one in the updates channels
this the only update channel I see
dense elbow
this the only update channel I see
If you want the notes directly from blizzard, they are in #news or simply on blizz own forums (where they are posted first)
young swan
use bluetracker.com or whatever if u want it as fast as possible
just be aware not everything gets posted and just gets stealthfixed in
slim coral
quick make it 5
slim coral
nerubar who
quiet breach
If you want the notes directly from blizzard, they are in <#360637715651493900> ...
I am looking for the datamine changes in a non confusing format, I already know about thee 5% buff
like what does this even mean I have no idea
plush ice
well its showing teh buff and then all the things affected right
sullen dove
that’s just what the “overall number” for fury was before now
From previous overall % nerfs
I think they usually are reset to 0 at the start of an expansion
and since the start I believe fury has been hit with a -3% and a -5%
but like here just takes looking through wowhead channel a little more
summer quail
I think they usually are reset to 0 at the start of an expansion
reset to 0 every beta/alpha but not unusual for a spec to have -aura on launch
undone flower
Reset TT
summer quail
iirc arms had -aura at the beginning of this expansion
quiet breach
but like here just takes looking through wowhead channel a little more
bruhhhh I thought there was more changes after the 5% buff the whole time. so that -8% to -3% was just the 5% aura buff the whole time?
sullen dove
ya
bitter palm
iirc arms had -aura at the beginning of this expansion
negative aura spec
mossy fox
arms does have negative aura
sullen dove
snyder Superman aura farming as a courtroom full of people blows up
obtuse burrow
Hehe
inland flame
Please don't remind me of Man of Steel I was having a good day
young swan
snyder wanted to make an injustice universe so bad
indigo quarry
Please don't remind me of Man of Steel I was having a good day
MARTHA
inland flame
MARTHA
My favorite was when Clark and Lois were surrounded by a destroyed city and a whirlpool of death and they decided to share a romantic kiss. That image is burned into my poor mind forever.
dusky moon
Bring back gladiator stance as a DPS spec
fading sky
Can never be a thing
plush zephyr
Just delete arms as a spec
inland flame
Add chain weapons like god of war
Could throw chains at people to pull them in, some kind of grip. And put chains on people to slow them down, maybe make them out of ice to be cool.
gilded pawn
iirc arms had -aura at the beginning of this expansion
That depends on your perspective
Since we had 51% aura in beta
That got zeroed out
And we went from there
That being said I don’t think arms ever had negative aura
clever path
Than they’d have to remove battle shout because we can’t have 2 raid buffs and grip is a raid buff lol
oblique pond
Honestly ‘bloodlust’ and ‘heroism’ should have been warrior abilities from the start not shamans it fits the warrior much more
olive wraith
You can theme bloodlust for any class
vernal laurel
You can theme bloodlust for any class
But warrior is a very typical "rage" "bloodlust" etc class in a fantasy setting
olive wraith
Ya that’s cool, but you can make the argument for any class to do the same thing
vernal laurel
Sure, but I would very much expect a warrior to have a party enrage ability than a monk, in any game really
olive wraith
It’s not necessarily enrage though
Bloodlust certainly is. But heroism isn’t
And time warp is something else entirely
vernal laurel
Yeah, you can make a party dmg amp ability for every class as you said
Bloodlust though should prob have been a warrior ability from the start
young swan
Ya that’s cool, but you can make the argument for any class to do the same thing
we have a passive that was shared between both specs for years literally called "enrage"
olive wraith
Right but lust isn’t necessarily enraging the raid
young swan
bloodlust is
olive wraith
Bloodlust yes. But the others no
young swan
heroism is just enrage but not as hordey
olive wraith
Heroism is basically inspiring presence
brittle crow
Bloodlust certainly is. But heroism isn’t
heroism is fake and should be removed
young swan
rallying cry you mean
brittle crow
dumb ability
olive wraith
Ya rally cry could fit
brittle crow
i don't let alliance players in my raid press lust because they're phonies
olive wraith
You can still have lust fit for every class theme though
young swan
sure but it doesnt fit any better than it fits warrior
olive wraith
It fits for any class theme same amount
hushed ocean
watched a few PTR m+ today with warriors inside. A solid average 1m less dps overall than everybody else
eternal sundial
i am not more hasty cuz a dragon has a pride flag
olive wraith
bloodlust fits warrior the most
You’re getting caught on “bloodlust”
eternal sundial
i am more hasty if a wizard moves time forwards
brittle crow
You’re getting caught on “bloodlust”
yea that's the point
olive wraith
Time warp and heroism do the same thing
olive wraith
Mmkay dude
gilded pawn
Warrior def should be in the top% of people to get a list
Certainoy more than hunter
For mage and Aug they just made some shit up
olive wraith
Lust should be horde only then
olive wraith
Alliance can’t benefit at all
eternal sundial
fuck all the dwarves from m+
olive wraith
And all nelf
young swan
It fits for any class theme same amount
absolutely doesnt
olive wraith
absolutely doesnt
Which class
eternal sundial
rogue
eternal sundial
monk
olive wraith
Dragon has time warp
fading sky
Peace speed
olive wraith
Rogues could find a “poison” that increases adrenaline
young swan
Dragon has time warp
aug* has timewarp
fading sky
Serenity
olive wraith
Dev still has time magic does it not
young swan
there is not a single class lust fits more than warrior
fading sky
Heroism smells like pala
olive wraith
Because you’re only thinking about it as blood lust
eternal sundial
and such horrible design
olive wraith
It’s evolved since vanilla
fading sky
Heroism
young swan
even shaman, bloodlust/heroism are basically just alliance/horde spells associated with human and orc more than they are spells associated with shaman
fading sky
Is true name
olive wraith
The effect of lust fits for any class
There I changed the wording to be less semantic
young swan
the effect of lust can be made to fit for every class
chrome relic
Reviving shout give us a battle res
young swan
but there is not a single class that lust fits more for than warrior
gilded pawn
You just need to grasp at more straws for some class than others
And warrior you need least straws to grasp
chrome relic
My class fantasy is just yelling at people
olive wraith
Nah can make basically any fit without too much an issue
young swan
not without the fantasy being shit
young swan
i mean it literally just doesnt fit with their fantasy
power infusion would fit better
eternal sundial
divine inspiration:
3 mana paladin spell
draw cards until you have as many as your oponent
evil ass card
olive wraith
It’s something it doesn’t sound like
young swan
the same would be true for divine inspiration
olive wraith
Like what
hallow sphinx
donowalled again @young swan
young swan
i was on vacation
eternal sundial
the same would be true for divine inspiration
it sounds like a class specfici crafting proc
icl
oh i got divine inspiration and saved 3 alloy
young swan
It’s something it doesn’t sound like
yes and that makes it bad
naming convention is just as much a part of design as making a cool effect
olive wraith
Idk just seems like you’re being pedantic
olive wraith
Xan
eternal sundial
dude i cannot lie
olive wraith
colossus smash
Idk this makes me think the actual ability does damage
eternal sundial
current warrior sucks ball
eternal sundial
Idk this makes me think the actual ability does damage
i miss the good animation man
and if u add bl or not doesnt matter
young swan
Idk this makes me think the actual ability does damage
yeah i mean warrior has sucked cock from a fantasy standpoint since legion
eternal sundial
ur just some idiot
young swan
even legion was iffy
eternal sundial
while everyone else does smth special
eternal sundial
like rogues have this shadow magic shit
and we have "rahh" and "spin" and "hit"
🐩
(legion warrior shadow stuff at least is cool in theory)
olive wraith
Tbh it’s low key hard to make warriors like a focal point I think. With how magic themed everything seems to be lately
eternal sundial
u need to involve them with the setting in some way
like if i can drink the goo that made the orcs green as a cooldown
iron portal
Remove lust from Hunts
Give it to warriors
eternal sundial
fuck yeah i will
iron portal
young swan
Remove lust from Hunts
Give it to warriors
thats true actually why the fuck does hunter have lust before us
iron portal
Ikr
eternal sundial
give them personal lust that applies to pets or some shit
aka bestial wrath
iron portal
So do the switch and amount of lusts stays the same in game BUT lore is better
iron portal
I think hunter really is one of those that doesnt need Lust , change my mind
olive wraith
So do the switch and amount of lusts stays the same in game BUT lore is better
I think part of the issue is people don’t really care about the lore as much as actual gameplay
eternal sundial
gameplay should remain the focus point
fickle cedar
kinda crazy how some people hate the concept of borrowed power but don't realize that sets and gear are also part of it and have been a crucial part of progression forever 
(unrelated point just from reading some tweets)
eternal sundial
kinda crazy how some people hate the concept of borrowed power but don't realize...
cloak ring belt neck embell
storm rune
I think part of the issue is people don’t really care about the lore as much as ...
It's a negative feedback loop between the players and the devs
eternal sundial
or whatever shit we have now
fickle cedar
cloak ring belt neck embell
yeah and im perfectly fine with it
eternal sundial
idk i quit this ssn early cuz it played shit 
olive wraith
My solutions adresses both
It does. Warriors get happy. Then hunters cry
eternal sundial
i think sl legos just being BIS was kinda chill
olive wraith
You’re not gonna make extra fans by swapping lust around
eternal sundial
rather than embells being shit
iron portal
As Xan stated, lust really makes most sense for warriors
Really strange we dont have it at this point
young swan
You’re not gonna make extra fans by swapping lust around
this is why my suggestion is to give warrior a completely unique lust that gives crit instead of haste :^)
iron portal
But it is least problematic thing these days
young swan
surely it wouldnt horrifically break the game :^)
iron portal
Surely
olive wraith
I’m down for warriors to get a different raid buff
brittle crow
give us a vers lust :3
young swan
give us a vers lust :3
wow that sounds boring as shit
iron portal
Vers Lust ? that sounds so wrong lol
brittle crow
wow that sounds boring as shit
3:
iron portal
Basically defensive CD
olive wraith
As Xan stated, lust really makes most sense for warriors
It doesn’t matter what makes sense. Hunters have had lust for a while so losing it would def upset people
iron portal
but on 10 min timer
iron portal
It doesn’t matter what makes sense. Hunters have had lust for a while so losing ...
At that point Im just saying lust for war, not about point taking it away from hunters
olive wraith
Gotcha
iron portal
But I dont mind making Hunters upset
olive wraith
But then it comes back to you can make any class have a lust effect
fickle cedar
vers is the least interactive stat, id prefer a lust that acts like an execute booster for everyone tbh, goes with our class
iron portal
We are getting to point where every class has everything again, slowly but surely
eternal sundial
i will say it
iron portal
Then they back track and we go again in this cycle
eternal sundial
the fucking goku clip is the worst thing
to happen to the entire
warrior class
ever
iron portal
You gonna love this
eternal sundial
dont post it
eternal sundial
iron portal
Ok if you gonna spam cats I will post it
brittle crow
jesus fuck i DESPISE execute at this point
we are enemies
execute is the best warrior ability
eternal sundial
L
eternal sundial
its charge
summer quail
and leap
brittle crow
very true
is just better
quiet breach
thoughts?
brittle crow
you can't fix smooth brain
fast mural
i mean if he increased his dps then thats hype
fickle cedar
thoughts?
Personally I like the process of learning new specs through reading guides and practicing, but to each their own
fast mural
gonna make for a lot better LFR groups
quiet breach
can we just change lfr to force u to use one button rotation
won't stop ppl from afking
brittle crow
introduce a raid mechanic that teleports u to orgrimmar and group kicks u if u fail it
celest halo
I mean, when picking up a new spec with absolutely no prior knowledge, I’ll throw on hekili for a couple bosses/keys just to get my fingies used to how the rotation feels… then I’ll dive into prio and the “whys” behind the rotation
brittle crow
no you're supposed to do what real wow gamers do
sit at target dummies for an hour then give up
olive wraith
Whatever helps people learn a spec is good in my book
dense elbow
the fucking goku clip is the worst thing
Ya just jellybelly and smelly
olive wraith
Who cares if it’s button rotation or hekili
storm rune
real gamers notice their dps is low, go to read a guide, see a wall of text with a 30 line APL, modified for 5 different target counts of course, give up and play fortnite
celest halo
Well hekili makes you actually press the keybinds
iron portal
Who even plays fortnite these days
celest halo
I haven’t used one button, but my guess was that it was… one button
olive wraith
It is one button
storm rune
real gamers
olive wraith
But it cycles through the icons
brittle crow
real gamers notice their dps is low, go to read a guide, see a wall of text with...
this is how i felt with arms a few seasons back when ur rotation changed at 1, 3, and 5+ targets both in and out of ss
wanted to kms
iron portal
One button doesnt work for some healing specs. So true gamers are still easy to find
Or maybe all of them idk
storm rune
yerrrrp, and then it all still boils down to do this in aoe, that in ST, the difference aint much tho
idk I play disc priest in m+, your rotation takes care of nearly every damage incident pretty passively
bitter palm
real gamers notice their dps is low, go to read a guide, see a wall of text with...
today i am gonna press ip
or am i
rage deficit abuse
thats why pwar exe mogs fury exe ig
storm rune
Speaking of pwar exe
I got an insane streak of SD procs as prot last week, parsed an 84 on heroic sprocket at 654ilvl
eternal sundial
i once got a 99 in DF on prot without having read the rota since sl
i thnk i forgot to taunt the boss like twice
iron portal
Just press shiny buttons
eternal sundial
raid tanking is a real job
inland flame
Doing your job to keep our reputation pristine
storm rune
Honest to god I think thats a better parse than my main
eternal sundial
i just remember the 135 external prot hc log
bitter palm
holy arms troll 3
eternal sundial
cinema icl
bitter palm
hi
bitter palm
hi @clever path
eternal sundial
i work in a casino
bitter palm
i work in a casino
as a customer
junior gale
Is Arms troll 3 subbed to the game
eternal sundial
Is Arms troll 3 subbed to the game
he has resubbed for MOP
but is on vacation on launch
junior gale
Holy
junior gale
Oof
eternal sundial
i did unfucky my hunters retail ui tho
bitter palm
so hes not actually logged into mop
make a dk called armsrework
eternal sundial
well semi
bitter palm
and we level together 🥹
bitter palm
i need to level my dk called armsrework
eternal sundial
jaa deathstrik
bitter palm
bro im leveling dk to play bdk
inland flame
Waiting for Fury to get a rework and Blizz to not even mention Arms. This Discord would just set on fire.
bitter palm
trampoline hp = fun
bitter palm
Waiting for Fury to get a rework and Blizz to not even mention Arms. This Discor...
12.0 its coming just gonna copy paste xans rework
eternal sundial
avatar now makes u trink the green orc juice
and yougo shizo mega unhined
and throw mortal strikes perma
or something
bitter palm
u shoot yourself in the head cause u have to press avatar
quiet breach
ur names look very relevant for next season @eternal sundial @bitter palm @radiant plank
bitter palm
@eternal sundial why is ur a not uppercase
junior gale
Dibs on #4
bitter palm
@radiant plank @bitter palm @eternal sundial @junior gale
eternal sundial
u shoot yourself in the head cause u have to press avatar
toaster bathtub simulation
eternal sundial
@indigo quarry u are number 5
bitter palm
and we will own
junior gale
12.0 rework owns
bitter palm
@indigo quarry come back in 12.0 and play legion arms on omega steroids
eternal sundial
@ebon junco u can be 5 if ur faster
young swan
lmfao
bitter palm
in 12.0 fury execute costs rage and reck is more powerful
bitter palm
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/1399146746109493420/im...
he just put fury in s tier (i cant find a video where fury is s tier)
junior gale
It's very hard to bring future screenshots back to the past it's ok
bitter palm
sorry i lack the technology
young swan
It's very hard to bring future screenshots back to the past it's ok
those darn timeway customs
fast mural
max did a tierlist
was it critcake that told him to do that ?
junior gale
Yeah it's rough out here
fast mural
bitter palm
ye
young swan
max hasnt done his tierlist yet
junior gale
Yee
bitter palm
inb4 15% exe nerf
bitter palm
was it critcake that told him to do that ?
no it was empirical evidence
from raid testing and m+ testing
bitter palm
arms and fury with amazing reworked gameplay and high tuning simply outclassed other classes
rogues did very well with their amazing rework as well
junior gale
fast mural
lies
young swan
its weird i think next tier fury will be s-tier for melee (alongside fdk) but probably like low-A/high-B overall cause the fights are just multidotter paradise
kinda need to see dimensius really badly
to make accurate judgement
bitter palm
its weird i think next tier fury will be s-tier for melee (alongside fdk) but pr...
ye i havent watched anything but walli said melee is awful
or something
young swan
from what I watched it looks not great
bitter palm
dense elbow
Melee struggling in the raid? This is great news! 
bitter palm
i am an mm hunter
i thought u were arms troll #3
young swan
but getting included in the 4-5 melee slots for no other reason than damage (raid buff peplaf) is pretty good
junior gale
Wallife is swapping to spooky arms
young swan
and fury damage profile is like
fast mural
surely demensius has an important execute phase 
bitter palm
immense cope
young swan
actual stinky crappy poopoo
young swan
surely demensius has an important execute phase <:copium:839076283467431956>
even if it did you would not play arms
bitter palm
surely demensius has an important execute phase <:copium:839076283467431956>
ye dies at 40%
young swan
that spec is fucking doomed
eternal sundial
surely demensius has an important execute phase <:copium:839076283467431956>
burst adds
like last 7
bitter palm
adds every 50 seconds
eternal sundial
endbosses
young swan
would be so fucking epic poggers fortnite if you ended up playing thane on dimensius cause its giga clappa all the time
junior gale
But guys I can take cleave on arms surely I do add dmg
gusty maple
fury damage profile got removed in s1 and it will never come back
junior gale
bitter palm
:mhm:
dapper goblet
young swan
speedrun ban
bitter palm
fury damage profile got removed in s1 and it will never come back
if they just listen to xan yap for 30 minutes
young swan
people didnt even have time to ping
bitter palm
dense elbow
speedrun ban
You the one who stole my bitcoin?
young swan
very epic
dense elbow
I want my bitcoin
eternal sundial
gg
dense elbow
First the steamgiftcards, now bitcoin
junior gale
if they just listen to xan yap for 30 minutes
The 12.0 will be a true test to see how Blizz listens. Do they listen to the 30 min YouTube yap session by Xan or read very long imgur.
young swan
theres like
bitter palm
holy yap
young swan
3 things
fast mural
they listen to people on the forums saying warrior bad
young swan
from my tree that i would actually really want to see in game
bitter palm
very long imgur image making it to forums very soon
bitter palm
from my tree that i would actually really want to see in game
what im interested
stronger reck
exe rage cost?
young swan
i want the frothing/carnage, i want the entire reck/RA/UF/Depths thing, and I want uncapped aoe cleaving during ravager/bs
this thing
everything else was just dreamland shit that i thought was cool
specifically the execute stuff
thats never happening
junior gale
young swan
just thought it was cool
fast mural
how is this not dreamland shit
bitter palm
everything else was just dreamland shit that i thought was cool
gotta dream
12.0 is dreamland
young swan
how is this not dreamland shit
cause its tied to a 1.5m cd that cant be reduced
fast mural
blizz will never uncap stuff
bitter palm
for warriors
young swan
i mean u can tune it as necessary
its just a concept more than anything
soft cap it at 8
or 5
doesnt really matter
oh my massacre is also pretty epic i think
current massacre is just useless
fast mural
thats not even the issue i see here
its just the fact that they have doubled down on capping abilities that its hard to believe they change in their philosophy
if any other spec would have somthing like this it would be more believable
bitter palm
oh my massacre is also pretty epic i think
what is it
1 hour video
hard to navigate
junior gale
But Blizz allowed them to be 8 targets in DF
young swan
young swan
yeah but that talent u could literally just slap into current fury and it works
generally speaking the things that I think are the "best" ideas are the ones that mesh into current fury with the least amount of friction
bitter palm
idk maybei m cooked cause im arms brain but fury plays infinitely better than arms
id much rather play fury atm
than arms
in all content
young swan
it looks so much better
flat river
what can do
No nitro?
bitter palm
btw if u want to fuck around with trees theres a app called talenttreemanager on github
young swan
HOLY
bitter palm
its up to 2022 df unfortunately
flat river
Xan rn
bitter palm
i will prolly make a web app that can parse
flat river
They should make a toy and call it "Galastronk's cooking device" and then make it randomize a shitty ass talent build whenever u press it
bitter palm
the string from the app
and display it
as an api
so u can embed it
raidbots has it but idk how that one works
could i convert the talenttreemanager format to it
nah it takes wowhead talent calc string
unluck
@young swan custom icons have to be 50x50 png and go to AppData/Roaming/WoWTalentTreeManager/resources/icons/custom/
young swan
wait this is sick
bitter palm
took some fucking around to figure this out
young swan
u should not have told me this today
bitter palm
xdd
bitter palm
lowkey could cook fury rework and then do class and all to forums
but me and walhe arent good candidates for a fury rework
young swan
Ive been wanting to take a second look at mine with midnight coming soon
cause rage cost execute is a massive pipe dream
thats not happening
young swan
im walking the dog and then i fuck with this
bitter palm
tbf u would need some sort of strong debuff ig
smoky vale
xan i need gold for my consumables
young swan
xan i need gold for my consumables
i have 100k man
bitter palm
xan i need gold for my consumables
come eu i have 100k too
smoky vale
can you pay for my consumables until august 5th
bitter palm
ask tmy
smoky vale
@ebon junco i need gold
young swan
ig for fury it would be on reck cast ye
i fuck with this tonight, maybe stream the fucking around and then if u guys have a group dm add me or whatever and we can add it to the imgur
bitter palm
:mhm:
thick fossil
That reworked class tree looks bonkers stacked.
young swan
can help me with the actual structure cause i kinda just left it the way it is
thick fossil
Sadly, it does.
junior gale
thick fossil
You mean play into the strength of what they are instead of the bit of everything we got?
drowsy heron
This good for Eco-dome?
thick fossil
God, I'm gonna die from all the logic in here.
bitter palm
was that arms has 0 aoe exe value
so they just slapped reap and bladestorm
in there
quiet breach
how many t8 delvy welvies do I have to do to max out my vault with hero track gear 🫦 😩 🥺
bitter palm
instead of actual execute shit
thick fossil
how many t8 delvy welvies do I have to do to max out my vault with hero track ge...
8
bitter palm
how many t8 delvy welvies do I have to do to max out my vault with hero track ge...
question too hard havent done a delve since s1 week 1
did like 2 delves s2 and got mechanocore
hero track
@young swan i forgot to update the tooltip but dan found something sick
during 30-20 u can stack fatality
and consume it with sd
cinema
mini exe phase
before actual exe
quiet breach
did like 2 delves s2 and got mechanocore
from your vault?
quiet breach
u can get hero track gear week 1?
bitter palm
Is there a #5 yet
no
young swan
<@137363315817971712> i forgot to update the tooltip but dan found something sic...
yeah thats epic
i think theres a way to make it even more epic
warm crag
what is this
bitter palm
path of warcraft
path of arm
echo rapids
This good for Eco-dome?
That frost is trolling
compact reef
Hard trolling i would say
thick fossil
@restive peak Fucking sugar coating
iron portal
Fckin what
restive peak
Are you throwing a fit here now lol
earnest canyon
What did linc do?
thick fossil
Are you throwing a fit here now lol
No, I'm calling you out on your bullshit on the forums. Fuck I don't even know if half that shit is targeted at me.
restive peak
What are you going on about?
thick fossil
You just slopped a whole bunch of shit without addressing whoever it was you're targeting.
earnest canyon
Are you drunk osa?
restive peak
Did I not reply to you? It was absolutely targetted at your whining. Work on your reading comprehension I guess dude.
Don't ping me to cry.
thick fossil
Don't worry, working on a reply.
restive peak
He's just 1 of those whiny children who thinks fury deserves to be #1 and hates our role in the game designwise
earnest canyon
Link me the post I will sort this out
thick fossil
See, putting words into my mouth.
restive peak
And he didn't have the ability to read the thread before replying to a side reply without understanding the context, it's ok.
No I'm reading your way of replying, and look how you're acting right now lol.
Have a nice Sunday my man
earnest canyon
Link me the thread please
restive peak
I will say, I hope without a rework Blizz goes ahead and does this 8T/uncap thing you're all whining about, and when they giga nuke our ST to irrelevance for it I'll enjoy the crash out.
earnest canyon
Linc me the thread actually, get it? Hahaha linc
thick fossil
So you can shove your holier than thou BS
restive peak
Yes, it's a forum and you're not the only person.
I'm not holier than thou, but clearly you're not as intelligent as you think you are. Work with that as you will brotherman.
thick fossil
Then quote the people so they know.
earnest canyon
Na I guess
thick fossil
Yes NA
olive wraith
I think a lot of people overestimate what removing the hard cap will do
It’s good being in a niche
thick fossil
Some of what Linc said is true, there are a lot of ppl on the forums wanting us to be stupidly OP.
restive peak
They don't just overestimate it, they don't even understand the game at a level where they know why we're "not meta", as the complains usually eventually break down to
thick fossil
I AM NOT ONE OF THEM.
olive wraith
But for a long time we weren’t even good comparatively in our niche
restive peak
You type like you're one of them, so maybe that's a you issue.
olive wraith
Idk who said what. But that is one of the most common complaints
restive peak
Where we haven't been good is irrelevant in a thread in the PTR forum about the current content being tested, I can't believe it's even a hard thing to comprehend.
restive peak
Saying "stay on topic with what's in front of you" isn't saying "we're perfect, thank god blizz is so good", and if you can't differentiate the two things I don't know how to communicate with you, and that's actually not meant to be rude or aggressive.
earnest canyon
Forum is shit on phone, can't see who started thewad
thick fossil
Just keep being fine with the trash we've been given all expansion. Until we actually see it in a good place on live and not get super nerfed, then I will shut up,
olive wraith
Meh I feel like finding good discussion on the forums is harder than a needle in a haystack type thing
restive peak
When did I say I'm happy with where we've been all expansion? What does that have to do with the design on the upcoming patch, where we ARE strong and not "super nerfed"?
Are you getting it yet?
thick fossil
But I will not put up with people like you (Linc) that simply shit on everyone that disagrees with you.
olive wraith
Fwiw I think fury was only trash in s2
restive peak
I don't care to sit and throw a fit about what's in the past, it is quite literally irrelevant.
compact reef
Oh no its happening again
earnest canyon
@thick fossil can you link the thread so I can at least get context
restive peak
Here's a valuable life lesson; focus on what you can control or attempt to assist on control with, and stop getting worked up about shit you can't.
Aka the past design, or the direction of how the game designers think your spec should be, and focus on the tuning.
earnest canyon
Thanks
iron portal
are we meta yet?
That forum post above will tell you more i guess 🤣
olive wraith
I’m happy with where s3 is rn
olive wraith
Fury is far from unplayable
restive peak
"Far from unplayable" is an understatement lol
thick fossil
Here's a valuable life lesson; focus on what you can control or attempt to assis...
Holy fuck you are missing the point of everything. Just going to ignore your ass.
restive peak
Seriously people should stop only watching the pros spamming MM/FDK, and watch every other spec/class player do worse than us
The irony in what you just typed to me. Please do lol
jolly marten
"Far from unplayable" is an understatement lol
should i also jerk of too?
storm rune
Seriously people should stop only watching the pros spamming MM/FDK, and watch e...
sounds like a good way to fly under the radar to me
earnest canyon
You two need to sit in the naughty corner and have a time out
torpid elbow
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/fury-will-be-unplayable-in-m/
i have a feeling maybe one day we will be least 6-7 capped
remote bobcat
earnest canyon
i have a feeling maybe one day we will be least 6-7 capped
Yes but you have to take smf first
thick fossil
If it's meat cleaver, no, that shouldn't be uncapped. That would get broken and OP very fast.
remote bobcat
If it's meat cleaver, no, that shouldn't be uncapped. That would get broken and ...
big agree
jolly marten
Seriously people should stop only watching the pros spamming MM/FDK, and watch e...
also seriously ppl should stop have warrior brains an doing decent dmg with shitty utility think that we are mages material.. there are many classes that had and have better days for a longer time than warriors.. i wont scream out of joy just because it seems we have decent dmg.. for now
thick fossil
I want our actual cool downs (OF, Roar, Spear, fear, etc) to be bumped up.
remote bobcat
or our procs
feral ivy
the only thing warrior needs is lust
remote bobcat
like reap and 
jolly marten
we need something for sure.. out of battle shout and dmg we provide nothing
at least we kinda fix the dmg issue
but still its a bandage fix
we should do 20-30% more dmg than every other spec to be considered meta due to our lack of utility
still iron
anyone tested any new ptr weps?
summer quail
anyone tested any new ptr weps?
there's not really any weapons to test out. they are just stat weapons, no cantrip weapons
still iron
machine gob seems pretty bad
bitter palm
hoooly fury chat crashout
drowsy heron
That frost is trolling
yea the frost was lol
olive wraith
the only thing warrior needs is lust
False
Fury is one of the tankiest specs as well. That means something
I think in DF bm was really strong dps but people stopped at a certain key level cause surviving became an issue
olive wraith
we should do 20-30% more dmg than every other spec to be considered meta due to ...
If phys comp specs were buffed a bit more we would be meta. We wouldn’t even need to be top damage
clever path
im glad pauck
why
jolly marten
If phys comp specs were buffed a bit more we would be meta. We wouldn’t even nee...
Theres also prot warrior fro bs
olive wraith
Theres also prot warrior fro bs
Not when brew is the obvious tank choice
bitter palm
idk prot looking funny
clever path
idk prot looking funny
please say something
bitter palm
please say something
something
jolly marten
Not when brew is the obvious tank choice
No way obvious choice.. strong yes, but no obvious at all.. vdh just got 8% dmg buff
lavish nimbus
Are you guys whirlwinding when you charge
bitter palm
in phys comp
bitter palm
Are you guys whirlwinding when you charge
yes
jolly marten
But yeah prot dont look so juicy so yeah maybe its a dps warrior that brings bs
bitter palm
idk how is prot not juicy but w/e
smoky vale
so its nuetral
bitter palm
thane prot
dense elbow
we should do 20-30% more dmg than every other spec to be considered meta due to ...
Bait used to be believable
Also buff OF, k, hf lads
smoky vale
me when prot has been the best warrior for the past 2 season
storm birch
Are you guys whirlwinding when you charge
Ye
clever path
Waiting for Fury to get a rework and Blizz to not even mention Arms. This Discor...
fire 🔥
your take is fire 🔥
sterile hill
I heard there’s doom rage over here
earnest canyon
I heard there’s doom rage over here
plush zephyr
https://tenor.com/view/memes-smashing-pc-breaking-keyboard-radge-gif-26483855
Niko after losing to Mongolz
earnest canyon
Niko after losing to Mongolz
The what now?
smoky vale
@slim coral
young swan
@bitter palm what website u use to fuck with the icon size/format
bitter palm
<@692035495718551564> what website u use to fuck with the icon size/format
ezgif
just go to ezgif jpg to png
convert and u have the option to resize
after converting
young swan
epic
quiet geyser
so much warrior drama today
earnest canyon
What are you working on?
young swan
olive wraith
No smf?
young swan
FUCK no
bitter palm
can u do multiple at once or do i just have to suffer
suffer
young swan
am i just slapping icons in here
seems like where all of them are
or will i die
nvm thats wrong
xdd
smoky vale
xantaga ill see you august 5th for 5 warrior keys
bitter palm
xantaga ill see you august 5th for 5 warrior keys
i will see u in 12.0
smoky vale
i will see u in 12.0
modest condor
7.2 damage
tepid cedar
Onslaught swap with am/ra …. And then onslaught swap with OF to far right
oblique thistle
holy shit im gonna bust
olive wraith
2 onslaughts
tepid cedar
What in the fuck one looking at
olive wraith
One for each hand
young swan
Onslaught swap with am/ra …. And then onslaught swap with OF to far right
very different talents from what ur used to
raw magnet
oblique thistle
no, wait until the patch comes out
olive wraith
But also. It’s best not to focus on bis lists
tepid cedar
very different talents from what ur used to
Ahh I see it now. Damn how long did up spend on that?
young swan
i made the initial thing like
fuck idk how long ago
lemme check
november of last year
but now im fiddling
undone flower
Big fan that in every universe, it will be here, our curse
undone flower
Leave the 2 charge -100% damage as Easter egg, that’s what Blizz do
The talent itself is prehistoric, in bfa it was already there
acoustic oasis
Was pretty op in df s2 tho
summer quail
Wut
storm birch
Ye I saw your video
It adds up pretty well after a full dungeons worth. Nothing crazy but better than nothing 🤷♂️
Thanks for checking it out btw 😄
sullen dove
nerf this fucking class??
junior gale
Justice
wraith wharf
tepid cedar
mobbo decided to go full st on a heroic bandit for fun with pugs... 4.054m lol maybe st was the play all along
undone flower
Tbf each time I reclear bandit I have the doubt : should I just go mugzee talent
junior gale
peak degenerate behavior
chilly fractal
mobbo decided to go full st on a heroic bandit for fun with pugs... 4.054m lol ...
Maybe the real parses were the friends we made along the way
undone flower
peak degenerate behavior
And it’s in mythic, so I would have 0 doubt to go full ST on heroic
tepid cedar
Maybe the real parses were the friends we made along the way
lol
biggest destiny 2 quote ever lol
young swan
Ahh I see it now. Damn how long did up spend on that?
finished my masterpiece (still not completely happy with it)
final eagle
finished my masterpiece (still not completely happy with it)
Any descriptions for the talents?
young swan
kinda sorta, dont have everything written down anywhere that isnt in the application
so if u wanna look u have to download the github app
which is this if you're interested
modest condor
finished my masterpiece (still not completely happy with it)
(still not completely happy with it)
me neither because i see a powerful/frenzied enrage choice node
modest condor
0/10 shit talent tree
drowsy heron
i dont understand why RA and AM are choice nodes together, always felt like a weird thing to choose between
drowsy heron
no idea what most of those capstone talents are, will have to try dling that app
young swan
my vyvanse wore off like an hour ago i really need to go to bed
drowsy heron
how do i check it out, do you dl something from yours?
young swan
i'm gonna post a paste bin in a sec
drowsy heron
ah ok
young swan
basically u just run the github application and after you've done that just click around until you find where to import talent trees and use the paste from this bin (if pastebin doesnt work im blowing up)
ctrl + Lmb to swap choice nodes
its pretty intuitive
young swan
real!
junior gale
finished my masterpiece (still not completely happy with it)
cant wait for the fury long Imgur
12.0 here we come
woven valley
Like our capstones are all “add seconds to blank” or “barely
Change an ability” or even “new ability that sucks”
young swan
i dont think i did a particularly good job of enabling diverse talent builds
kind of light on nodes in general
woven valley
What we honestly need is a right side build and a left side
Build (getting rid of smf) and some middle ground between them to change up
Something other than “change 2 talents to be aoe”
drowsy heron
basically u just run the github application and after you've done that just clic...
honestly, just doing a quick pass, feels way more interesting overall compared to current live Fury
lots of interesting takes on changing up the class
young swan
yeah, theres definitely some really overcooked shit in there
but the main goal was just to create cool stuff and feedback loops that feel like crack
with some throwbacks of course
woven heath
What we honestly need is a right side build and a left side
Build (getting rid o...
We had that a bit ago with the whole raging blow is now your auto attack thing. Wasn't great and ended up being tier set dependant.
drowsy heron
those are some really interesting ideas for pulling execute back into the rotation
young swan
yeah im still on the fence about giving it a rage cost again
woven valley
We had that a bit ago with the whole raging blow is now your auto attack thing. ...
Smf still existed and ruins a part of that side
young swan
idk man
woven valley
Could have easily been made to be comparable
woven heath
Agreed. Make smf a glyph IMO.
woven valley
But blizzard just nerfed it into the ground
young swan
i want it so bad but everytime i think about it i always end up thinking "everything that works with a rage cost works the same or better without one"
woven valley
Gonna be honest I’d prefer them to get rid of some of our haste style play and make a slow but hard hitting style
young swan
idk my head is fuzzy i'll think more tomorrow
woven valley
One would always be better but at least it could give variance
Right now four feels the same no matter what you take
low folio
is dornagol still broken on the ptr?
olive wraith
What we honestly need is a right side build and a left side
Build (getting rid o...
I mean you can just ignore smf. It doesn’t block anything
olive wraith
We had that a bit ago with the whole raging blow is now your auto attack thing. ...
Rb is just out of control this expansion I feel like. So much tier support and talent support
young swan
Rb is just out of control this expansion I feel like. So much tier support and t...
its been out of control since s3 of SL
woven valley
I mean you can just ignore smf. It doesn’t block anything
It’s Not about ignoring it, it’s worthless needs to be cut entirely
olive wraith
It’s Not about ignoring it, it’s worthless needs to be cut entirely
Massacre idk when we took it last
Sd is dead for thane
snow edge
They are situationally usable / decent though; massacre in pvp is apparently useful (?)
olive wraith
Boo pvp
gleaming siren
woven valley
Sd is dead for thane
The issue is, smf is dead. Just dead.
Yeah not all talents are good or used
But smf has no use at all
olive wraith
But why is that an issue
woven valley
Are you actually asking that? Cause if so more power to you
olive wraith
Yes
No one takes it if they care about their numbers
They take it cause they vibe with 1h
It doesn’t get in the way of any other talents
woven valley
It’s an issue because having parts of our talent tree taken by worthless talents on top of our bad capstones feels like a slap in the face
olive wraith
Like I said. Massacre has been dead. Onslaught is currently dead
woven valley
Capstones cough cough
olive wraith
I’m sure other classes have similar talents
woven valley
Not to the degree we do
olive wraith
Nah capstones aren’t dead they’re just bad
olive wraith
Ye os is pretty lousy