#fury
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none of the other yellow names do fury apl related stuff so they would have had to have heard it from someone else, the only people i would trust when it comes to that are archi and sarri
the idea Bazed is talking about is does sending unenraged raging blows to power up a brutal finish rampage still count as dps gain
Most times, it is fine but someone was talking about newer players and I can see this scenario happening to them if especially they are not specced to DE which not all builds do.
yeah I'd have to do chat log review to find it but again the dps gain is so small it's not really worth digging for it this late into the tier
is dropping enrage worth getting 2 RBs + Rampage in after bladestorm?
you wont drop enrage
if you're playing deft experience and you used a rampage before bladestorm you're not dropping enrage before 2 rbs
^^
that might be true, I will have to test that during next weeks sprocket but I am pretty sure I had moment where I was about to drop enrage if I went in 2x RB
but what about when you don't have deft experience talented?
as long as the 2nd rb is still within enrage it doesnt matter that it drops during the gcd
the bigger question is if you should commit to that or stick to keeping enrage
so i just tested really quick on a dummy
with 2 DE you can raging blow at least 4 times b4b after BS before rampage
assuming you rampage before BS
and you get all the raging blow resets
and 2 times with 1 DE
lemme test it with 0 DE see what happens
especially in lust btw
idk what version thta was
Do you? Is that a rule? Or do you send bladestorm whenever it is up
it's not a hard rule but it's a good thing to follow
you do not want to drop enrage during BS so you typically rampage right before it
If you rampage right before you bladestorm each time, then yeah I can see your point. Might be something I need to incorporate to my rotation as a simple rule
true but if you have deft experience so you also know bladestorm bloodthirst hits will lengthen enrage just enough
raging blow booo
new to the spec entirely, and reading the last like 100 messages
thinking about going slayer fury for s3, good idea or should i look elsewhere?
im assuming you're talking about m+?
I am just curious if we should commit into 2 x RBs or not after bladestorm even when it comprimises enrage uptime. Boss fights are not as static as dummy practice and I have seen this having been an issue a few times.
if so it depends on what your goals are, do you just want to farm weeklies? sure go slayer fury
do you want to push a little but dont care about title range? slayer still works
do you want to push title range? you can probably still get away with it but if you really want to play fury thane is looking better (also play a different class)
if you are this worried about it only do it during lust 
or ask for PI
id be playing it in mythic raid and like +10-12s
when i did limited testing on dummies, i barely could find a difference in damage for aoe between the thane and slayer. but thane being tankier even at equal damage would definitely put it ahead in dungeons. but still limited play test
then yeah slayer fury go for it
you'll find the difference between thane and slayer when you have more than 5 mobs
i mean wouldnt slayer scale better in higher target
definetely gonna be checking around a little more, but my first idea of enhance shammy is looking a bit scuffed PEPW
Does it matter for the first strike of rampage if we are enraged or not before doing our brutal finish?
well looking at critcake's video yujinfan shared, you technically can spam as many RBs as you can before enrage drops in order to boost your next rampage via slaughtering strikes
tblast does the same damage as reap and bs combined
y did it do that to my emote wth
so the cap is not even 2 RBs but can be 3 depending on your procs
Cap is 5
idk if i believe that, but i didnt have time to do dungeons on ptr
In the most ideal world you cap 5x slaughtering strikes before sending a BF rampage
no emotes bud
tblast can be upwards of 30% of your overall depending on pullsize and 4set procs
only
approved ones
1984
yeah but do you ever proc 4-5 RBs before enrage drops after bladestorm?
sometimes, but not often
Can do 4 for sure np
If you do though that rampage cooks 
The 5th potentially might not be enraged but silmarilen here has said that even an unraged raging blow is still dps gain
Nice feeling
Soooo

i just checked and using unenraged raging blows is basically the same as ignoring brutal finish altogether, but sims have rampage at 4 stacks of ss so it never uses a 5th one
so basically as long as you dont press more than 4 raging blows you're gonna be fine, but once enrage drops you should press rampage
but if you can get 5 raging blows in before enrage drops thats surely still better?
i think the only time that would be possible is during lust
even with frenzied?
and tbh i dont really feel like checking that
idk im smacking a target dummy rn and on pull i think i can get it, resets permitting
ya i definitely couldve
I havent been able to go over 3 RBs on dummy, the 4th RB proc does not arrive before enrage drop (have 2x DE)
hit your buttons faster
should I archi said either way you are likely to get the same output regarding enrage uptime
yeah nah, its not the enrage uptime, the 4th RB proc just does not arrive most times cuz I even waited a second or two before pressing rampage for that 4th RB proc
yeah nvm, I was able to get the 4th a few times after putting mana oils and doing a few more testing, just gotta a bit more patient waiting for that 4th sometimes
we're good.

I mean I waited maybe 0.5 seconds extra for the 4th proc while my enrage was still up?

this is not real life
anyhow, wanted to see if I can plug in 4 RBs before rampage so was a good learning experience
.5 seconds is an eternity
imagine the amount of gcds you lose over a fight doing that
real
if you don't hear "i can't do that yet" then you aren't playing right
Facts
i got the fabled enraged 5 raging blows for BF rampage
im pretty sure i only can get it cause the 2nd to last bloodthirst from my BS reset my enrage and then the last 1 extended my enrage by 1 second which gave me just enough time to get off 5 raging blows in that time
so basically its not really realistic
Who cares
ur mom
@grok is this true
I mean if you are about to get the 5th RB, would you not go for it at that point even if enrage might drop?
that's like what? 100% boost on rampage?
Going from 4 to 5 stacks isn’t 100%
Nope id just ramp
Going from 80 to 100 isnt 100%
No
if you are RBing the 5th inside the enrage window
and then rampage
does the rampage not benefit from the enrage it is going to cause ?
it does
@lost saffron why are you a mage
ok so, the rampage during enrage 1 window (while you are spamming 5x RBs) versus rampage during enrage 2 window (the one that the rampage itself causes) both would benefit from your mastery, yes?
thus going for the 5th RB might be worth if it is within enrage window
Even if it was an increase it would probably be like .1%
And it just sounds awful to play that way
It’s like half a vanilla rampage
Every 30 seconds
Sometimes
Not even all the time
Anyhow, I learned quite a bit by the discussion. In the end of the day, this is a channel to share ideas, what people do with them is up to them.
Maybe it makes me bad but I don't even do the RB's out of storm most of the time. I found that it was desynching my cds just enough to be troublesome with fight timings.
applies to a couple fights like gallywix where you need BS and recklessness up very often for all the add drops so you forego overcapping enrage
what are the builds for fury for next patch?
Thane is pretty much the same as of right now
do we still need a BT-tracker WA in season 3?
You drop hack n slash for something
Same as this patch except Thane drops some RB support and Slayer drops BT support
Not for Slayer in raid at least
And I'd assume not for Thane since that spec wants to slam BT on CD now anyway
Thane is a bit diff since tb will proc a lot more
thx 👍
u use it on cd no aswell tho if its buffed
Ye send tb when you get it
Someone mentioned bt being higher prio than ramp on aoe
Gonna wait for sims to come out before saying for sure though
IF you don't already have 2xTB
I saw the 5 Slaughtering Strike topic, you need to RB before your bs if you really are a fan of useless accomplishment if we can call it
schmidi are you brown man in NS this tier?
I like AoE bladestorm SS optimization. WW -> rampage -> Bladestorm -> 2 RB -> rampage with 2 RB stacks. Feelspumpman
Oh wait
Fixed
So many missed potential reap procs
no bt in there and you're gonna have to ww again so that's 2 gcds that could've been BT for reap proc
gg
Doesn’t rb do reap now with overwhelm or w/e
Doesn't scale with target count like BT does
BT is like 67% proc chance on 5t, RB is still the same 20% or whatever
But it’s enhanced 150% right?
Yeah
BT almost certainly, rn you BT > ramp as slayer at like 4+ targets
That probably goes to 5 or 6 on next patch but it's still above RB for sure
for slayer in aoe only*
single target slayer hates the BT button
Not sure
probably doesn't matter too much though
You'll still press it as filler over like ww or whatever, so whenever you press it you'll be at high BC stacks
Whether it's worth it to press earlier or not idk
y that will be seen when tier starts i guess
Hm so the bloodthirst potential normal reap proc in AoE is better than SS stacks, the 4 set reap procs from rb? How many targets does the RB reap effect? I didn’t even see that part
RB reap is the same as BT reap (at a higher effectiveness), it's just that the chance to proc doesn't scale with target count for the RB 4set proc like BT does
I'm not sure about the SS thing btw
Just a guess
BT in aoe fuk gud tho
Basically it would be 40% increased damage on the overwhelm rampage at the end of your WW stacks after BS
Interesting interesting. I’ll have to try moving BT up in my prio list next time I play during ale
Aoe*
Yes in AoE it would be WW -> Rampage -> BT -> BS -> BT -> RB -> RB -> WW? -> Rampage
I was kinda just full sending RB and bloodthirst when needed
Bc reap
Well you’d have to WW in there again somewhere right
Yes I missed where you ww, but it is not important, it’s just you would want to BT> doing SS shenanigans
Ima test that out. I hate working weekends. I need answers 
That’s more what message I want to say
I modified it, not 100% sure if you can consistently do it bc enrage (I’m mostly sure yes)
It gets sketchy sometimes. I always know that I can fit my 2 RB in then rampage again then WW and keep it pushin but that’s A lot of time not bloodthirsting if BT really is a much larger gain in 4+ targets
I just gotta test it out some and see. I’ll just change my prio to basically the same as thane at that point just adding in SD to the mix
It's a country songs, and hilarious.
I GOT RICEE COOOOKIN IN THE RIIIICE COOOKER
doesn't ring the same
If I youtube this song, am I gonna hate life?
Oh Jesus, Travis Tritt. I haven't heard this guy in years.
LOL
I miss goofy feel good country shit
not whatever the processed slop that is today
I'm not much of a country fan, but my parents love it. I grew up having to listen to it a lot. So Travis Tritt days.... shit I was a teen when he got famous.
silly feel good vibe music (doesn't matter genre) = good for soul
but so is deathcore and black metal 
Yo, can I axe a rotation question? I'm currently playing slayer with cleave on Gally mythic. What is the usual priority for using BT, RB, and rampage? Do I smack RB on proc?
Just assuming I'm focusing Gally and cleaving off him for adds which is probably wrong but to keep it simple.
Maybe I missed it somewhere, but what’s the talent build for warr on PTR? For m+
Is this now or in s3
It’s not it yet cause we might have more tuning
But it’s looking like the same build, just drop hack n slash for something
Ppl are playing spear too aren’t they?
We were talking about s3
Gamba gamba, spear gamba - highroll for big dam
Spear is technically better
Spear + bladestorm

Cause roar is ass
Worst part is just trying to line them up
spear + OF, giga value wowzers
Just use the bladestorm capstone 
Loves it thx all
spear lost a little bit of value after the hoa trinket nerf
it's kinda just equal with roar
They both just stink
Howso?
It’s real sad
1.5min cd that buffs crit damage, 1.5min cd trinket that gives crit
makes sense that when the trinket gets nerfed the value of spear drops
i mean roar already plays only baseline roar with 2x crit afaik
Oh?
you could probably drop base roar for something else
I guess that’s not bad
Ah ok I was thinking about the wrong trinket
What’s our trinket breakdown look like? Can we mostly skip delves?
whats the name of the trinket?
Jury still out
im trying to find it but struggling
cursed stone idol?
ya i was trying to find it on the m+ loot page on wowhead but it wasnt showing up idk why
it's a new item
i see
Netherprism feels ok I just hate that the first pull of the dungeon won’t get any use out of it
I’ve just been running that and pacemaker.
have you tried sacbrood pacemaker?
Trinkets look like double passive until you get super lucky from raid.
I did get a sacbrood drop from a ara kara run I did. I didn’t play with it much cause double passive didn’t seem like it would be the greatest. Cause netherprism feels great when you have 10+ stacks for your avatar window
I’ll have to use it. I was gonna try that so’Leah stat trinket too at some point
is that a super rare trinket ?
Which?
Double passive is poggers
Unyielding Netherprism drops from fractillus . I think 6th boss of new raid?
Sacbrood is a M+ drop from ara kara.
So’leahs trinket is from gambit m+
I’m not aware of any of the 3 being in the rare section. Still not sure which you’re asking about though
@warm crag
if only it was as good as spymasters
hello
unyielding netherprism or something
Prism is for sure the raid trinket that you swap for pacemaker in m+
I'd imagine sacbrood is set and forget
mastery delve trinket is powerful
If a delve trinket is bis I will self harm
Didn’t they nerf it
Haven’t been keeping up with trink tuning since sims will tell me eventually
the mastery one idk
void fragment w/e
its called
all i know is
im not playing netherprism
play mop more often
I hear mop was super popular for a lot of specs
Think I spent a couple weeks solo in the timeless isles or w/e they're called and then dropped the expansion once I got all the toys
Another season playing juggernaut I guess
You never answered my question
@slim coral what telent build u using on ptr
the one that makes u do dmg
preferaly it also has core buttons
Like onslaught?
How much of a buff does onslaught need to be usable
Not a ton really
It's good for SS stacking and we BS pretty frequently with new slayer tier
SS + BF I mean
If the tb talents swapped over
Rb does more damage baseline right now
So it would literally only be for enrage/ss stacks
Well yeah, that's what ons does (or rather what tenderize does)
It can only do the things it does
If SS stacks become more important (because of higher frequency of BF, higher proportion of dam from rampage, etc) or enrage uptime becomes more important, ons becomes better
Did we get another 5%?
Yesterday yeah
Just you wait, 60-90% buff is coming

I will be the won who laughs then
It has happened before!
It will do so again
lol jsut experienced forst dk for first time in ptr
holy shit
did a 10 streets finished at almost 7 mil dude was at 10 lolol
fkn 7 mil st openers shits wild
To be fair, 5% of that is your damage
Doesn’t frost have a decent amount of magic
This isn't the Monk discord
Turn the temp to 40C so none of their abilities work
Spooky frost dragon is magic
bring back spell hit rating and have it affect all magic damage sources
Take away MotW and put the spell hit Boomkin aura back in the game. Do not give spells a chance to miss.
Nooooooo hit sucks
Have spells be able to get parried 
Warms my heart ❤️
Alternatively you could put them in the US southeast where they would just freaking melt rn
At least you have AC there... As the world gets hotter, fucking European houses that are designed to keep heat in are like ovens
I'm on vacation rn thank god my it was like 43C (110 Freedoms) at my house today. Been breaking a lot of heat records.
Fuck that anything over you 20c is too hot
Yeah Ive been staying in Cleveland OH in 33C and no one has AC up here, including my aunt I'm visiting lol
Idk why phone inserted you
My gym doesn't have AC and it's been over 100 heat index for like a month straight
38ish C
Sweat off all your fat
Yeah where I live in South Carolina were expected to break our record of longest streak of 90+F for all time in 3 days
I really want to move further north someday
My Finnish friend has like triple glazed windows and his garage is like an airlock, but he said this summer is way too hot
Heat sucks. And can also kill you.
Yeah I hate it, also don't have AC. There have been days where opening the window makes a room hotter as it let's the warm in lol. That's weird to me.
Yeah being a little gremlin and locking myself in my apartment and running my gaming PC doesn't help on the heat part lol
When the AC goes out during the Summer it can be TOUGH. And I do a lotta gremlining during the Summer since I'm a teacher lol.
Oh, what do you teach?
I teach high school Physics and Earth & Space Science.
Oh neat. I really enjoyed physics, but I think it's because the teacher looked and acted like doc brown from back to the future.
Lol yeah that'd help. Kids tend to be excited about Physics until the math and derivations step in. It can be a challenging course for them, especially AP. But fun.
Yeah I did the higher tier paper in high school and it was just all math and remembering formulae... The lowest tier paper was mostly written stuff like list the components an atom is made from and in this circuit, which of the light bulbs will turn on
Yeah especially AP it's a lot more than just remembering the formulae. A lot of application, derivations, logic. They actually get a paper with all of the formulae written down on it the day of the exam.
lol try being a firefighter in this heat. It has been absolutely miserable.
Have had to had IV pumped 4x the past 3weeks after structure fires
But fires are hotter than the weather 
Ah idk what it's like now but we had to remember loads.
Do you get to drive the truck
Out of all the things I would want to be in the south rn, a job that makes you hotter than the oven that outside already is is not one of them.
It’s miserable. You walk out, and rush to take shit off. Only for it to be about as hot as the devils ballsack outside as well
Pressures all downs on distance/size/and nozzle size
Oh makes sense
Depend . Basically we have timeline formula for stuff
But ur looking at 90-130 psi
On avg
At least you get paid well rite? 
150-300 gpms
Not as much as we should since life expectancy is 57 for firefighter due to cancer and heart attacks
130 psi is a lot
Yeah no America doesn't pay firefighters well for some reason. At least in the south. I know a few that have to have second jobs. As a teacher in the south I'm in a similar boat. Being on my own, I can just barely make it work ony salary. Thankfully I haven't had to get another job yet.
My wife’s a teacher as well
Fun fun
Well 2 incomes helps a lot I'm sure, even if they're two jobs where people are criminally underpaid.
Teachers are fucked in the us
Altho there are some good districts in this country.
No funding
No support from admin
And severely underpaid
For the importance they provide to society
Yeah I have 10 yrs exp and Masters and with my salary it's rough sometimes.
Is what it is
real
My friend's wife quit being a teacher because of the school inspections, insane amount of paper work and box ticking out of hours, and having to teach some universal government script with no scope to say teach idk adhd kids differently.
Yeah not sure where you live but I'm sure there are problems all over the place. US definitely earned its rep for treating us poorly tho.
Apparently here the salary is crap but you do it because you like teaching kids and the pension is good.
Yeah I mean that's the meme you do it for the kids. And I'm sure it's true for most of us. It is a very special job that has a lot of perks that other jobs don't, in small ways. But also very hard. Going through training I had multiple people tell me "you'll probably cry sometimes during your first year" and yeah brother that shit was rough.
So much depends on where you teach and how much your admin sucks tho.
It's the same here. Houses are way more expensive near the good state schools as they allocate places based on distance from the school
Yeah schools get a lot of funding through property taxes in the US so if you live in an affluent area it probably has good public schools.
There are also private schools too tho ofc
It's somewhat ironic to be talking about education in the warrior discord of all places. It's literally a 0 iq class by theme.
hey i do that
We're breaking the mold. They're probably arguing about whether 2+2 equals 22 or 0 in the Mage server.
Hahaha
to be clear, I say if a spark is available on Aug 5. We have no way of knowing unfortunately.
after thinking about it more, it makes no sense for them to give us a catalyst when we can't access tier set bonuses yet anyway
I think it will be a spark
there almost certainly wont be a catalyst
I just dont know if there will be a spark
oh yeah it could be neither
After thinking about it more, it makes no sense for Blizz to change what they do since 3 years ago
I mean you could def catalyst something Aug 5. But it would be big dumb
@winter shoal currently on live:
Slayer : BT > rampage 4+ targets
does this change next season?
bigbowwl u are now the reap expert of this discord congratulations
It is half a spark per week + the first quest of the guy
i hvae asked u like 5 reap questions
Are you saying that RB is prio over ramp at 3+ targets currently? Because that's just not true (outside of BF/SS stacking, although I don't know direct sim numbers on that in aoe)
greater than 3
il edit to do 4+ its easier to read
still wrong

Yes BT W
In that case yes it changes next season because the opportunity cost of BT vs RB changes
I don't know what it changes to
Tbh if you're actually counting targets in practice that's psycho behavior
weakauras do that
Talking about opportunity, opportunist slayer talent next season 
till they kill em all 😦
do you thiink its gonna be more targets or less
More
or do u not know at all
There's no way it would be less
makes sense
BT is being devalued in thane too
with so many
procs
ur casting it less
with 4 pc
I mean, it could also be the same as current, but it probably won't
not how that works
BT is much higher prio as thane, if you don't have 2xTB already
bt gains giga value for thane next tier
Have anyone posted logs or SS of PTR fury? Am trying to compare to see if I am getting an accurate assesment of fury
(18 echodome)
Crit has some yt vids but they're before the aura buff yesterday
tomelvis is built diff man
Rampage looks a little high on the damage breakdown
thats for sure
I died twice this key also didnt help
but thats not close he just gaps
Man its over for outlaw
Its been over
but the 2deaths is not even close to that gap, I more wonder how much more a good fury can sqeeze out
Baze was also streaming some keys yesterday
After the aura buff
Could check his stream vods
Or math what is 5% more damage
looks like the crit youtube might be a good reference
maybe I am just "supposed" to do 9mil
i think like 7.5-8.5 is prob pretty normal
pugs on ptr are insanely demonic
even with good players
You saying they need to find Jesus
Just the live build except you take all the spear talents instead of roar
don’t talk to em like that bru
I found it, the dps breakdown looks very similar
ty to whoever reminded me of youtube vi
Not much else to take tbh
Hmm.. don't need the RB nodes, maybe it's SMF's turn to shine! ... likely not
Honestly might be the closest to TG next season
Go SMF to craft a week 1 weapon big brane
It’s still gonna be a loss
But maybe closer than ever
Yeah, you'd need a giga 1h to have SMF actually be on the table
But when you factor in 1 handed Mogs it’s always on the table
We aren't FDK
No it's not
We already do zdps
We don't need help shitting on it
A few CD buffs next week surely
Class Changes
• Woyer
• Angy
-5% Aura (fuck you lmao)
look, the only reason we don't have an OF buff yet is because not enough people are sending out the angy juju
also requisite lamentation about pugging 15's, because fury bad.
this class kinda sucks ngl
of is mid unless it does 20% of your dmg or you get titans torment back
- you have to breach the critical thinking cost
pls blizzard switch onslaught with OF
guys roughly how much damage would i lose playing smf in m+?
prob like 10-15% or something
From memory, I believe it's something around 5-10% dps loss? That could be old information
so how's fury lookin for s3
please read above
right right, but will we be declined on everything we sign up for
5% less likely with aura buff
Sorry man, best I can do is 5%
What's a good YouTube channel to fall asleep to?
outdoor boys
RIP
smosh reddit stories
the goat
🐐
u in fonten yet
nah havent played this past week
did he add the other 2
get his yearly quota for mod actions
yeah he added both of the others
peak
@fleet sorrel 
crazy how once I hit 90 in mop I’m instantly bored
solo queueing heroic dungeons on cd
friends gonna take like 3 weeks to hit 90
warrior mop very powerful surely xantage will play
arms good
but i would really like to play lategame fury
thats pretty epic
and bladestorm actually does dmg
true
Think prot does insane aoe too
at least in a couple of heroic dungeons prot has been clapping on giga target
epic
in like the scholomance students room me and prot were doing like 200k
need to get my last dinars
or still 1 a week silliness
ye
Yea I mean can get 2 coins in a full raid clear
yeah thats pretty good
and idk do heroic too maybe faster prolly
need to do that eventually
4 bosses or 4 dungeons
pogga
kezan insta booty
yeah i feel like that trinket is bait for dinar
at least hoc can serve decent in m+ next season
yeah hoc sick for farming new gear
doubt u in mythic long enough u don’t just have a new trinket
kinda what im thinkin
by the time u would want Kezan for like 7-8min fights
surely still won’t be better than like random champ/hero track trinket there
yeah its just getting omega gapped by heroic sacbrood/pacemaker
so mad they nuked the hoa trinket
dumb as fuck
yeah it went from like
20k crit
to 9k
or some shit
at heroic track
lemme check actually
nvm
it was 17k at m0 and it went to 7.5k m0
something like that
idk basically it got shot in the head and u will never look at it now
Baze
Lots of yapping there
3 Fury on last boss incoming
Best in slot on on second hand (hero) better than crafted 681?
Yes
merci
De rien
@slim coral grats on the pc trial
Thanks bud, Grats on the ret paladin promotion
3 warrior tier
It’s about time we were ass for one tier can’t let that happen again
I’m beyond excited for some fresh content man . So hype
no guild so correct
isn’t that the asmongold sword
in mogushan palace?
Or something else
ye
lol
bro farmed that thing like 1k times never got
guess it must be rare I saw the 476 staff off gandling as a drop but imagine unrealistic to farm
i farmed the blood set the pieces have really low drop rates
i cant remember the exact name id have to login
holy get fucked
Don’t think I’ve even looted it on retail
Hello guys, which items do you suggest to craft before next patch?
Wirsts + Weap?
No Back, no Belt (earlygame), no Boots (lategame)
Best raid-wise sim suggests Wrists + Offhand (ascension + nerubian)
I mean wris- belt when u got mythic weap
If not weap. Wrist.
At least im craftin weap week 3 unless godly vaults😅🤣
It looks like we are switching to Ascension as Fury, so weap will be Bis as off hand
I mean, we are going to change back slot soon, keep delves belt for a while and change boots in the future
And we have to craft before patch
Wrists + Offset (legs) as a transition in the new patch?
you have like 10 or 11 sparks rn, just craft every option at 681 and after that just sim
Emb prolly be replaced by ilvl anyway
Mmm, anyway we are goin to spend our first 60 Gilded on crafted item i suppose
(As Larias suggests in his guide)
you always get a free crest somewhere
Looks like wirsts is 99% our early and late Bis
Nah wep
Probably 1st 2 sparks + 60 gilded on wep, then 3rd spark + free runed crest on wrists recrafting later
Answer is always weap
depends how lucky you get with mythic weapons
Isn’t emb best oh though
The only acceptable craft this close of next season, is wrist bc you will wear it with your crafted wep until you craft S3 wrists
do we replace s2 tier with 701 from keys
Hello buddys any one knows the % of diminishing returns, in secondary stats?
you just equip the gear the robot tells you in sims I wouldnt really worry about stats tbh
U mean simulation craft?
yes
when we get the new legi back in the next patch. Did you guys already precraft dawn/duskthread lining from back to another slot?
only slot you can really craft rn is your wrist
because a weapon will just be replaced asap and the waist we currently have is better
Which emeblishment will you put in the 1st weapon crafted?
so start with ascension and wrist doubling the weapon enchant right?
if you're gonna craft a weapon most likely ascension
bazed craft these nuts
Hey guys, i want to play again WoW and main my old fury in 11.2. Is it still a thing hat fury is target capped? I see on Raider.io furys can also run like +20. i am not aiming for this, maybe at least a +12-15 or something like this
Still target capped to 5 yes however 12-15 you will be fine
you can even get title as fury just fine it's just long wait times once you get to push key level
yeah i think i will play in a guild group
is it just a fury prob or gerneral arms+fury since i dont bring that much utility for gruop in m+?
arms is soft capped fury is just hard capped since your ww/thunderclap cleave only hits 5 targets
i mean with that long wait times. i dont like playing arms that much
yeah arms isn't the best rn in terms of fun
No odyns fury but…
by odyn's beard!
M+ arms isnt to bad. Wait... it actually is if u wanna truly min max it.
If u just play as arms its ok
Are we crafting 2hander this next season? Mythic 2hander drops from 4th boss in raid.
So mage has 3 s tier spec but warrior has 2 B spec🤨
Can someone remind me what hte beta version of skull banner before dragonflight release did?
The one that never made it live obviously
what trinkets feel decent on PTR? i feel like im kinda cheesing by wearing my house of cards and just scaling it up
where should we recraft cloak to replace it besides wrists?
You guys think they'll buff arms a good amount to where fury won't be played again? I have a feeling that will happen and I don't want it to
For m+
Well even if arms is buffed, u can still fury?
Current tuning makes medium+ strong
Atm on live fury is super duper shit
Which is why u dont c
I just meant like getting into group people would be looking for a arm warr more then a fury warr
No1 is lookin for a war
Then prot
Like i mean fury atm seems to do very well
And if u arent there for pug to title
Like i did 16s as fury, dmg was bad still timed, with no meta setup
shit man I love having warriors- I've yet to invite a warrior and them not do a ton of interrupts and mass stuns. People can fuck off the "no utility" talk.
I get it our tool kit isn't deep
but ppl not inviting warrs is dumb
Warriors always lookin for wars in keys
But hmm i think its ret lile
Either they are hooorid
Or greatest
I usually don't have good luck with pallys or dhs
no one does
yes
aight
Live thane. Remove roar into spear. And possibly lose vicious contempt maybe?
No
seen lots of people drop hns since on aoe you just bt on cd
Wut spear?
Ill just send AM thane ig
Spear was stronger before they nerfed a specific trinket on ptr
How far behind is slayer?
spear before they nerfed the halls trinket was giga
For m+? I just know it’s behind
Dunno how far
Slayer isn’t bad though
just play thane
not as big as it is on live. while thane is still stronger you're not "trolling" by going slayer
Oh shit they nerfed the trinket from halls?
Yep
Hmmkay
It was op but idk if killing it was the solution lol
Lets see
Havent played fury in a while
So itll probably be meh anyways
but streets 15
so idunno
you'll be fine, just press bt on cd on aoe. on st same rotation as live
Hoping they’ll buff it back up a bit
Trinket
You’re also using BT on cd on st
??
you are not
Why not
Can’t wait for updated apl to go ape on simming shit
Can’t believe a tier set this big that helps you with giga TB and you don’t even wanna use BT on cd

Not using HnS either or?
i haven't tested myself. i know alot of people don't use hns
cba ptr ping as a fast spec like fury

thats the warrior life
wat, fury pretty good on ptr. better than arms
our damage isn't mid tho
Tav streets, is this bad?
I think when I did streets with Gajeel I ended at 5.14 as fury
ok, i wasnt using food or pots so that might be a big chunk of the diff
feels better than i thought then going into next season.
link spec
so people area get rid of roar and use spear
i heard the difference wasnt that much
try it
spear was before they nerfed the trinket
Thane i think spear with 2x capstone might be better
u arent gonna missout on the exe dam since thane doesnt press exe
definitely not 2 capstones
what trinket?
idol
1% crit is probably still better than 50% damage to an ability that you only use to buff other abilities
looks like spear is -0.5% single target and +0.3% aoe compared to roar
that's with double spear capstone
so i think it's just back to roar
id still take spear for m+
or maybe even just skip the choice altogether and get an extra utility talent or something
I hate ravager
I miss DF ravager
sames
yeah looks fine
i personally think storm bolts (the thane talent) is bait and you're genuinely better off just talenting into the intervene shield just so you dont make storm bolt worse
even if you dont have intervene itself talented
They should make stormbolt a giant nuke again
They should have made it a big dps cd if the target is immune to stun again
For thane
we dont have the str boosting part that we had in DF
Sure but it’s still the same ability, only unhinged instead of a str buff
Give me all the aura buffs in the world. It won’t make a difference until they remove ravager, fix raging blow, and give us utility worth taking.
storm bolts is great for m+
Stubs are bad
Stuns
All we have is stuns
People don’t want stuns in m+ they want Knock backs knock ups and things that disorientate
Because every class has a stun now and it gets insta drd
only thing i REALLY want is soft cap on Meat cleaver
sick of this hard cap bullshit
They will eventually change it
But in blizzard fashion it will happen way after when it was needed
how? 90% of the time you're fighting more than 3 targets on trash so those 2 extra storm bolts are probably going on mobs that arent casting and the casts you wanted to stun will go through anyway
you're just adding DR to mobs that dont need to be stunned
Like they’ll remove some abilities and add new uncapped aoe abilities to fury and THEN they will uncap meat cleaver.
all it does is increase the cooldown and mess with mobs you dont want to stun
But they’ll reduce its damage by 30% becusee aoe comes from the new abilities now
I will DR the pack with shockwave and bolt and u cannot complain
Completely invalidating the need for it and allowing them to act as if they were in the right
Classic Arms warrior take, with their knockup shockwave. Toxic take.
"just shockwave and DR the stun, who cares, kek"

Skill issue.
I almost timed rookery 
what level
mates decided to die few times on last boss
18
nicee
Should've used shockwave and stormbolt more
I luv this abilities
any PBE players know the top classes atm for s3?
Stormballs...
All of 'em until you want to play Top 10 🙂
mage dk hunter for dps
What's pbe?
Ptr
Oh
Public beta environment, league of legends terminology i believe
😂
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1hc4GHv28JYZt6jQ?fight=40&type=casts&source=64&view=timeline Hello guys, im currently starting to play warrior for my guild and im wondering what to improve on, since I cant really figure out what im doing wrong, is there anything that you guys instantly spot that I can improve on
First of saying yes to be warrior😅
you got lucky that your first bloodthirst happened to proc an enrage during this bladestorm, but you just sent an unenraged bladestorm inside avatar when you're about to hit all the adds
if that bloodthirst didnt proc an enrage you would be wasting like 50% damage
ohh yeah thank you! thats a big thing
is there a way to increase font size of item discription?
Sub rog does balls
it is horrendous for damage if bladestorm doesn't proc enrage, but I will say it is pretty rare that my bladestorm doesn't proc enrage.
gambling on procing enrage instead of just ramping is crazy
its not like we are rage starved
hello! I have an opti question for s3 - I came across a Gdoc saying that you shouldn't leave any embellishments on your weapon (and hope to drop one in week 2 or in the vault) - is this also the case for fury hands? knowing that we need 2 weapons anyway
Not to shabby
I didn't say it's a good idea just saying
its forgiving af
the ilvl increase of the new stuff is gonna be better than embelishments cause weapon dmg is the biggest upgrade for warrior
Have I mentioned I hate embellishments yet? I should mention I hate embellishments.
so your gonna be replacing your waepon embelishment faster
for example if you have them on wrists its gonna take a way bigger ilvl increase for you to replace them
but how are they gonna make professions relevant ? 
in this case: what should we put our embellishments on? knowing that we will take the cape of the season? what to synergize with our wrist? And above all which embellishment should we take (crit or versa)? sry for the long question
honestly your gonna replace everything anyway once m+ opens
No craft weapon this season?
and i dont think we getting a full spark immediatly ?
so your gonna be on 0 embelishments until you get 2 sparks for weapon
*for fury
Tbf there's a version of this system that doesn't suck, it just isn't this one.
system only sucks if you dont have people in your guild who have maxed everything and doing it for free

Man sparks at the beginning of the season suck too, agh.
i was running on 1 embelishment for a while cause i got bigger upgrades from upgrading myth track gear rather than crafting one
Well the fact that almost everyone uses like 3 boring ones and the rest are trash and how much of a headache it can be to maximize early on depending on drops kinda a headache. The fact they don't ilvl scale in TWW is a thing too.
Idk I'm just a grumpy old man atp.
i just hate that it competes with crests
I actually have all the professions set up for crafting just for myself on alts so that's not a thing I have to deal with thank god.
if you get myth gear early it becomes realy annoying
i know they have to cause otherwise everyone would run around with max crafted gear week 1 but it still sucks
Yeah it's also not the end of the world but the more unique gear we have to wear the more awkward it can become to just craft where you want.
remember when loot dropped and it was just maxed and BiS 
I like the ilvl upgrade system but it has flaws for sure.
yeah and this way they can give us a turboboost
Like freaking valorstones.
havnt had an issue with valorstone this season
but i had like 3k saved up in event boxes
Mostly just been on fresh alts. Them being transferrable helped but having to lose some sucks.
valorstones are probably the most pointless currency they ever created
I mean, it makes you go do stuff
especially since they buffed the amount you get from everything
Which is the whole point of mmos/wow.
It's just a way to make geared toons do chores like world events past when they need those crests.
Crazy we can’t just play in end game and not have to do any small stuff to get there
this only makes sense if m+ and raid would give you less valorstones tho
Worky worky bullshit is wow
if you get more valorstones than you can use for upgrading whats the point ?
Not talking shit it just is what it is
Ya but I bet you can get more valorstones completing X quest chain or running through level 1 delves for weekly whatever faster than doing either of those.
but you still need to do raid /m+ for crests anyway
so you wont need to do other stuff
this is only a thing for casuals who dont do m+
is there any reason to not macro avatar to recklessness or can I just do that?
AM is the reason
That’s fine but you should also have a separate keybind for reck
I have one for reck and rav and one for reck and avatar
The opener uses rek before charge then you press avatar before your first gcd
Small optimization but honestly you low key probably wouldn’t lose that much
Ahh I see, ty ty
But also what ravon said. You’ll get rek back much faster
And you don’t wanna be sitting on that for 45-60 seconds
Idk if this is perfectly optimal but I have ReckRav macro so I wait for combat, drop Rav (+Reck), Charge and Avatar together, and then Ramp as soon as I get to the target.
You saying you drop ravager outside of the pack?
what do you do if you play slayer ?
No I use a @cursor macro
Ohh I see
So if it’s an aoe pack your first rampage won’t be cleaved then?
Or are you talking ST
Yea I mostly M+ so I had like a dungo boss in mind ig
Ah ok.
Reck alone first, then Charge and Avatar together, then Ramp then Storm
I wouldn't be surprised if there's a better method idk I don't pretend to be a Slayer god like I said I mostly M+. Can't convince myself to myth raid rn so kinda vibes there.
Seems perf, then after storm u rb as much as u can until enrage drops then ramp
Or u hit 5 stacks.. havent tried hittin 5 yet
Guys r we back?
we would need to be there in the past, to be back now Sadge
We are alive
Ya Fury looks p good don't let the boomers get to you
Meant to say doomers but I'll stand by original statement too
idk what is going on with all of the people. saying furor is getting a 5% buff. a nerf from 8% to 3% is not a buff. its still a nerf of 3%.
idk what the devs are thinking, the fury sucking ass in m+ ranked D, still getting a god damn 3% nerf overall is literal shit
which of the first 4 bosses in the new raid (mythic) drop a 2h with strength on it?
What's this 3% nerf I keep seeing?
Araz has a 2H sword
is he the only one? also is that 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th
Yes and 3
Sry, yes and 4th not 3rd
what u yappin bou
fury got a 8% nerf and now they tuned it to 3% dmg nerf, and they sell it as a " buff" . its still a total nerf of 3% in Objective Sight of today.
man who said there was lots of 2handers early in the raid :kekhands:
that’s just where the aura placement is? Who cares if it still says -3%
u know like literally all of our abilities probably have 50% buff slapped on them by now
whether they reduce that and fix our overall aura buff to 0 literally doesn’t matter
Yeah only other is an agi polearm off first boss
Thought we got a 5% buff. Why are people saying 3% nerf?
it’s just been at -8 since they crippled fury in s1 I assume but have since targeted many actual abilities getting buffed instead of reverting some of the aura buff
is there any heroic 2handers from all 8 bosses that will perform similarly to a crafted 2h? like how heroic BiS was close to crafted 2h this season? @inland flame
or ig that question applies to dungeons too
Ppl looking at our total auramod for the spec, it went from -8% to -3%, and as such it looks like we are still getting nerfed
Only special weapon is cosmetic, so no.

