fury

[plush zephyr]

good job

[honest sundial]

why tf does it say 4% damage

[smoky wraith]

Lore accurate whirlwind

[shell parcel]

Fellas I haven't been paying attention to the PTR, I saw that we got some buffs and stuff
How cooked are we next season?

[dense elbow]

We looking to be all from a bit on the weaker side to quite strong. In general consensus seem to be, we look at worst to be S2 level, more likely a tad better off than that, and at best one tuning pass away from being with the top dog classes/specs

Personally (m+ perspective) I think we still just a bump away from a good spot for the season. But if nothing else, better than S2 (for what that is worth)

[shell parcel]

Thank you

[hardy wadi]

are we also talking about mop classic fury here or just retail

[storm birch]

That’s great news

[summer quail]

mostly retail. there's a different discord for classic mop

[hardy wadi]

oh i see

[full halo]

damn guess I continue my "forced fem" of being a prot warrior main.

[hardy wadi]

with the recent buff on whirlwind and bladestorm are there any logs/sims we can see how much that increases our stuff?

i mean overall how much it affects the dmg

[winter shoal]

On ptr or on live

[hardy wadi]

ptr, or are the 55 to 65% improved whirlwind, 10% whirlwind and 15% bladestorm already on live?

[winter shoal]

Nah they aren't, ww and BS (and reap?) were buffed on live a couple months ago

Not sure of exact numbers but the imp ww buff is close to 20% on its own

in aoe ofc

[hardy wadi]

i will do a pause until next season, i just want to hype my self up

was a rough season not to play arms

got declined so much

but arms looks to boring for me x.x

playing fury since bfa :D

[winter shoal]

thane looks pretty strong on ptr currently

not meta like fdk/mm hunter, but strong

[hardy wadi]

i want to play slayer in every content, i played thane its fun but slayer is most fun for me

[winter shoal]

and those specs are getting nuked from orbit surely

slayer is also fine, probably not as strong as thane but fine

[hardy wadi]

i just hope odyns fury getting some love

[winter shoal]

[hardy wadi]

i miss to have this button on my tab

[winter shoal]

surely

[hardy wadi]

[summer quail]

Technically It is an aoe gain as slayer

[hardy wadi]

and how much? is it actually worth in overall dmg so you feel it?

[dense elbow]

You can't see it, but I am rolling my eyes at the theoretical 1% DPS AoE gain for a 1% DPS loss

OF is worth around 4-5% of your overall dam, 6% if you doing giga pulls

[indigo arch]

Hoping more than anything for a season of fury at least on par with arms in m+

So I hope thane gets more buffs

Or slayer, either or

[hardy wadi]

so i can atleast use it in cinderbrew

but im stopping m+ for now, im burning out and just want new season

[indigo arch]

Slayer buffs would effect the precious raid content though so that won't occur

[summer quail]

Such an amount that most people do not bother

[dense elbow]

You can, I do, but know it is inefficient DPS and an overall efficiency loss

[winter shoal]

I mean, there's a nonzero chance you play thane on at least one boss

[indigo arch]

Popping odyn used to be an aoe taunt in m+

Feelsbad

[hardy wadi]

ye dragonflight, i remember waiting a long time before attacking so i dont get aggro

[indigo arch]

It was funny on stix

[summer quail]

If you play shaman you can still experience that

[indigo arch]

5 mile thunderclap radius

[hardy wadi]

first pull neltharus

[winter shoal]

does devoker fire breath still have like 6 million % aggro modifier?

[hardy wadi]

tank on discord telling me i can blast then one odyns im dead

[indigo arch]

Oh I've had recent experiences with precisely that

Be it that new primordial whatever replacement or the moment windstrikes start hitting

Let alone tempest crits, christ

[tacit hill]

Is it confirmed that right now fury is looking better then arms in m+ right now?

[indigo arch]

I fking hope so

[summer quail]

On ptr yes

[indigo arch]

Arms is CBT to me

[umbral whale]

Crit seems to think so based on his video from earlier today

[tacit hill]

I’ll have to watch that in full

[umbral whale]

Performed well against mm and frost which are both still overtuned

[indigo arch]

The question then becomes if fury only becomes stronger via the tier

[tacit hill]

He’s also cracked

[umbral whale]

Yuge thunderblast damage

[indigo arch]

Guess I'll just sim when patch goes up

[tacit hill]

Does he have tier equipped on ptr?

In the video

[umbral whale]

Yes

[tacit hill]

It’s prob tier related for sure

[umbral whale]

Its a bandaid but yes it's the tier set

[indigo arch]

If fury is actually OK it'd be beautiful

After two tiers of ass

[tacit hill]

Honestly agreed

[indigo arch]

Well, seasons. Fury was good in raid

[tacit hill]

Unplayable in m+ this entire season

[indigo arch]

Fuck, I need a second 684

Just have a 681 crafted

[summer quail]

3 tiers of ass in m+. S3 df fury was do bad in m+, just very good in raid so most people forget its m+ performance

[hardy wadi]

can anyone tell me the name of the official classic warrior discord or is it just skyhold classic or something

[junior gale]

to mann

[earnest canyon]

Did you try Google?

[torpid sand]

ngl blizzard could give us skull banner again

[woven valley]

No, banner sucks

[dense elbow]

Fight Club, I am pretty sure

[plush zephyr]

Can I get a toy to throw the extra hellstone shards I don't need at people

[hardy wadi]

not like there are different servers right?

[summer quail]

No

[earnest canyon]

https://discord.com/invite/RbCZJtw

Took me 1 second

[hardy wadi]

new record i suppose

[spare steppe]

oh fight club

loved that toxic wonderful place

[winter shoal]

I've only heard bad things about fight club

[summer quail]

Good movie

[brittle crow]

my SteelSeries Arctis GameBuds™ arrived

first impressions are good

[earnest canyon]

As long as it has game, gamer, or pro in the name. Bonus points for rgb

[brittle crow]

i have both the SteelSeries Arctis GameBuds and the Pixel Buds 2 Pro

no rgb on either tho

[earnest canyon]

Buds are the things without the cables right?

[brittle crow]

an earbud can be both cabled and non-cabled

[earnest canyon]

Oh

[thick fossil]

Man, I can't catch a break on Gally. Always dealing with mechanics

[merry umbra]

we cant equip the same weapon right?

[turbid bay]

most mechs on gally is full uptime

[merry umbra]

I mean 2 of the same weapo because unique equipped

[winter shoal]

Only if it says unique-equipped

If it's just two random weapons you can

Like two of the same random weapon I mean

[woven valley]

finally got gally mount

literally next to last time we kill the boss lol

[smoky vale]

hi king

[fading sky]

Just whipe em😆

[merry umbra]

Hey guys, does single minded fury still sucks in the PTR? No changes at all? I love the fury warr animations with fist weapons

[fading sky]

Smf is stilø there its a loss to play

[winter shoal]

Yes still there, yes still bad

I don't know the numbers for next patch, but this patch it's like 8% or so behind non-SMF

[lucid thorn]

chat I just got invincible

[golden hare]

chat is this real?? big if true

[orchid dagger]

Still trash

Prot tier dps

[flat river]

imagine if you could play prot

without the threat gen

gg

top tier dps

[orchid dagger]

Just swap threat with each other like gigachads

Fuck the healer

[flat river]

just go full tank key

real

[oblique thistle]

oops, all prot warriors

[orchid dagger]

Intervene & Rallying are the real healers

Brez? Just don't die 4head

[oblique thistle]

B-But the prio dam... no prio...

[undone flower]

One day they will put the threat swap spell of FF14

On every tanks

[oblique thistle]

do NOT bring tank stance into this game

[undone flower]

It is an easy lazy fix for some raid threat

[oblique thistle]

God that'd be such a great way to kill tank players enjoyment
Force them to waste an extra global turning off a buff so they lose threat easier

[flat river]

just buy the br from AH

its only 500 gold

[oblique thistle]

talking about another spec in fury chat again

[flat river]

because there is nothing to talk about lol

[oblique thistle]

idk complain or something

its what we do best

[flat river]

this is general chat

[undone flower]

Let’s start an utility circle talk again

[oblique thistle]

warrior lust when?

[undone flower]

bloodlust, rally, intervene honhonhon

[olive wraith]

Yall ready to see if we get thane nerfs cause prot

Surely tomorrow more notes

[orchid dagger]

And kill the class outright?

[oblique thistle]

see wowhead update
its ptr update
get hyped
look inside
"Thunder Blast damage reduced by x%"

[olive wraith]

That would be better than if they came out and said the cd reset is a bug

[orchid dagger]

Class Changes
• Woyer
• -20% Aura nerf
Comment: get fucked browns

[olive wraith]

I mean that won’t happen

[orchid dagger]

You say that

You must not deal with Woyer that much

[oblique thistle]

tbh it might actually be a bug, but if that's the case I hope they give it the DH treatment and bake it in as an intended feature

[orchid dagger]

Blizz gets off on shitting on woyer

[olive wraith]

This is the thing I worry about the most

If they lower tb damage it’ll suck but not the end of the world

[coarse lotus]

hey guys, new to the spec and I'm looking at wowhead/wclogs... if I understand correctly, rampage under 100 rage is low priority, but still our best dmg source, am i right ?

[slim coral]

basically rampage when you're not enraged and before you overcap rage

[orchid dagger]

Damn bro, nice carry

That Battle Shout putting in work

[smoky vale]

el no sabe @slim coral

[coarse lotus]

that sound crazy gameplay design but... whatever

[indigo arch]

Gonna be wild if they nerf thane for prot (and fury because intern as class dev) even though prot has been colossus for like 1.5 seasons

[olive wraith]

But thane is performing really well on ptr right now

Prot thane

[cyan star]

Pthane was fun, I enjoyed it more than colossus

Big Tclap felt good

[undone flower]

If you played ret, it is similar thinking to not spend on 3 holy charge but try to have the maximum amount without wasting builders

You can rampage at 80 but you will notice something can happen, it is free to prevent that

[smoky vale]

@undone flower i timed a19 priory bro

2 19s in 1 day

[undone flower]

Camillax ?

[smoky vale]

yeah

[undone flower]

[sour frigate]

Hes udk traitor

[orchid dagger]

So he broke free of the Stockholm Syndrome

[sour frigate]

[undone flower]

There is no Stockholm syndrome if you are the perpetrator

[smoky vale]

BOBZILLA IM DOING IT BRO

[sour frigate]

19th priory is nuts 💪

[unreal onyx]

Does it make sense to buy the valorstone tokens from the vault coins and hold until next season? Iirc they said they will not reset them

[undone flower]

Valorstone transfer will be turned off ?

I was buying the 1k gold token, maybe I should buy valorstone yeah

[smoky vale]

you ask this as if uou wont cap out valorstones doing keys anyways

[undone flower]

-3000 valorstone bc you looted a weapon ahh

a second weapon hit the tower

[olive wraith]

I mean crests will be the limiting factor

[undone flower]

I think they will do as S2 and S1 renown rewards will be updated for S3 crests

[unreal onyx]

But if you got crests but wanna upgrade a weap or smthn, you need a hell of a lot of em

[undone flower]

And valorstone is cringe when you loot something free crest but have to spend shit ton, it’s not to upgrade with crest+valorstone the issue

Just bc you want diff stats

[unreal onyx]

Also getting 6k gold a week is nothing

Rather get some stones for next season

[undone flower]

It cost 2 token per gold token, you overestimate what you get per week

[unreal onyx]

Oh yea, sorry 3k

[undone flower]

But it’s like 75 valorstones, 500 gold is better imo

Gio is kinda right, you get a ton just by gearing, I think just not resetting the 2k is enough

first time i see them

[smoky vale]

well you do keys to get to 10s then you spam 10s for heroic gear

then you hold crests anyways

and you do 10s for vault while capped on crests

[undone flower]

btw

[light hedge]

what are the odds of that lol

just needed one but still damn

[warm crag]

Who?

[smoky vale]

hi spngus

[oak raven]

are we going spear instead of roar next season?

[fading sky]

Yes

Spear and pray

For procs and crits?

[trail thunder]

hi guys i just got [smeared lense smartphone photo] in my vault. my stats are [exact values for each stat, itemlevel 615]. what should i pick?

[golden hare]

you should go out frolicking in the fields and pick berries

[trail thunder]

thanks!

[mossy fox]

hi erga

[golden hare]

hi crit

how you doing handsome

[mossy fox]

i am good thank you

hope you're enjoying life without wow

[golden hare]

highly recommend it

[mossy fox]

imagine having free time to do other things

[high sedge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/766349238941777931/1131266466289819779/caption.gif

[light hedge]

i just wish they make it a targeted ability and not have me pray for no breadcrump on the sensor at the wrong time

[trail thunder]

hi guys, what should i craft

[light hedge]

or spear narnia clipping into rooftops

[fading sky]

Who doesnt love a good rooflaugh

[light hedge]

just about as much as every model clipping through armor

[trail thunder]

completly different note: there "might" be some melee cleave train shenanigans going on dimensius similar to ansurek p3 potentially, do we know how fury 5 target cleave looks compared to other specs? did they with the recent buffs to thane and whirlwind actually succeed for once at making us "actually" slap within our target cap?

or are we about to get memed on by firemages and dks

[light hedge]

this

[trail thunder]

unfortunatly

they will never forgive fury for being good in palace. you will play ONE (1) warrior for shout

[light hedge]

its not only that we are target capped like crazy. its also that we dont really nuke within it 🙂

[trail thunder]

shame, i was hoping with the last round of buffs we would at least pump inside the bracket

then again, they giga buffed sunfury firemage again specially in single target, which autocleaves everything just fine and has perfect movement so if you have the time to wait for ignites and other classes passive cleave to rot down adds, why bother with fury i guess

[light hedge]

if we are lucky

we can outperform affli on single target

because affli will necessarily get buffed in single target

before release

[trail thunder]

i mean they are going to send another round of balancing for sure, its just mostly annoying that they kinda got it right in s1 and kneejerk nerfed it

[light hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/eh-meh-jim-jim-halpert-the-office-gif-25317293

[trail thunder]

i wish they took a look at some classes fundamentals as in what do they "DO" in the future, irrespective of numbers

[light hedge]

if they want prot warrior so badly, might as well give us back Gladiator Stance

[trail thunder]

idk raid tank setup seems to be up in the air, it kinda depends on if the raid splits on dimensius and how frequently you need grips

[fading sky]

We lack add burst is what it is

[light hedge]

and utility

[trail thunder]

utility is fine ish, stuns are on a pretty short cd and in raids rally isnt like, great, but its not complete ass either

[fading sky]

Nav

Utility is not the issue

Dmg always is

[light hedge]

even if ww splashes 100% of ramapge damange on the 4 addiotional targets

we still not good

[fading sky]

We need of // roar // spear

[trail thunder]

eh, you can just make the number stupid enough and it becomes good, see also: dev evoker

[fading sky]

To do meaning full dmg

[light hedge]

Roar is such an awkward global ngl

[fading sky]

Because its bad

[light hedge]

yeah but it needs like

500% buff

to be good

its badly designed for it be on gcd

[trail thunder]

the thing is basically, how much single target do we drop for a build that does strong cleave, how much single target does fire or arcane mage drop for a build that does good cleave? basically nothing. if the adds need to die "fast", you need cleave AND it has to be bursty, if the adds just ahve to die but you have time, you can just let it rot out from ignites and passive cleave

so with fury constantly being a basically flat damage curve, our damage profile just isnt super valuable unless the number is big

[fading sky]

Åaqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqaqqqqqåa

😄

[light hedge]

i agree.

[trail thunder]

its not even that fury is badly designed per se, its that some other classes are lowkey op-design wise where cleaving costs them zero single target damage in their build, or almost zero

[light hedge]

fury has one of the smoothest gameplays in the game

[trail thunder]

theoretically there "should" be a cost for covering multiple damage profiles, in practice, some specs have to pay it and some really dont

[light hedge]

thing is, balancing, tree desing and ingame results dont really align lately

big bonker with 2 sticks hitting like soft summer breeze while sreaming for help so loud it makes their ears bleed

https://tenor.com/view/pinch-same-choke-welcome-to-fantasy-island-cheers-gif-13742951

in the end, community wise we just end up in the same jail as havoc dh.

[light hedge]

want me to sign it?

[oblique pond]

what priority does execute have when you play thane fury?

feel like you never even press it

and on ptr i feel like it is even less

[light hedge]

Execute is rage gen

below BT

speaking of MT

does not apply to slayer

[oblique pond]

is execute then below rb?

as thane

[bitter palm]

nothing

0 prio

[gloomy loom]

How is going fury in raid ptr?

[sudden tusk]

good

[gloomy loom]

Mid tier? Better than arms?

[sudden tusk]

arms is behind a good bit in single target

still playable but i think fury is better rn

how ever a single buff patch not for arms could change t hat

[eager lily]

Arms is A and SS tier, but you need to see it together

[barren pasture]

This is best thing Iv read all day 😂

[worldly vessel]

When I run sims, Raging blow is top damage by a fair margin on almost every type of encounter - but the rank 1s all have rampage as their top damage for mythic raid. Am I missing something? I'm a little new to warrior...

[dense elbow]

I presume it would be because boss fights got movement, adds and other factors that cause rampage to be cast more

In m+ patchwerk fights, RB is top for me, is all I know

[midnight sierra]

Thought this was a sweeping strikes SS joke or something

But I get it now !

[limber oar]

Couldnt honestly tell you, i just jnow rampage is my most dmg on my logs

Sims idrk i dont put a hell of a lot of weight into sim ability dmg breakdown

[rough trail]

Does the sim overcap on rage alot?

[thick fossil]

Shit, are we back to rage really not mattering again?

[forest swallow]

Are you using Anger Management or Reckless Abandon?

[rough trail]

REEEEE

[undone flower]

There is a thing that can provoke that : you are supposed to drop enrage if your next gcd is rampage, and i think very few ppl actually do that

Or do that consistently

[rough trail]

Drop enrage meana less dmg with ur rampage or am I smoking

[light hedge]

Wouldnt that decrease the damage of rampage?

[undone flower]

No, rampage enrage itself

[light hedge]

Prior while or after the hit?

[rough trail]

So it does the same ok

They should make it so u can stack enrages

Why havent they thought about that

[light hedge]

because going haste mastery instead of mastery haste isnt really all that interesting

[undone flower]

Im not certain it is the explanation of your sim, I need to be clear, im trying to find reasons

[fading sky]

For more speed

[rough trail]

Slow and big hits

Every melee is haste kinda boring

[undone flower]

Holding reck can contribute to less rampage too, maybe sim the same timing as a fight to see

[fading sky]

Haste is fun and engageing

If u want slow go cast

[limber oar]

Might be holding reck longer to line with BS

Cant say i see a lot of people doing that super aggressively tho

[undone flower]

i checked my sprocket logs, i don't hold reck at all and rampage is 100k over RB

[limber oar]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/yZXMCth4a93wz2JB?fight=45&type=damage-done&source=16

3m for me

Even in my 99 parse the difference was 2m overall dmg in favor of rampage

So they shouldnt be reasonably different from one another unless myself and others are misunderstanding prio

[undone flower]

when i sim rampage is 20k behind RB

[limber oar]

Reasonbly different

[silk wharf]

I think it could actually come down to that the robot just plays perfectly and is able to squeeze in extra raging blows.

[undone flower]

i don't really do the rampage out of enraged tho

[limber oar]

Robot also assuming perfect uptime

[undone flower]

yes to me 20k is so small, it can be just robot vs player diff

[limber oar]

Perfect uptime favors raging blow dmg way more

Cause you never drop enrage from lets say

Sprocket intermission push

[undone flower]

yes maybe, i have 99.09% uptime

[limber oar]

My 99 i had 99.49%

Most recent kill was 99.54%

[rough trail]

Not every melee has to be hasted out the wazooo give me some good choices where mistakes makes a bigger difference than pressing buttons fast 💀

[pearl sequoia]

fury is the press butons fast spec

and even if you push buttons fast if your ration is wrong its going to have an impact, so there is ur mistake

[earnest canyon]

It's a mistake to play Warrior, hahah I am funny man

[rough trail]

True

[rough trail]

Ye but it’s kinda minimal comperes to others. Like u got to go out of your way to fk up where the margin is huuuge

Could have made hero talents more interesting. Instead of aoe vs st being the choice kinda

Big hits with bleeds

[undone flower]

it was sustain aoe vs burst aoe initially for the hero trees

[rough trail]

Could have made aoe big bleed build for hero and one instant dmg

Longer fights bleed wins, short ones instant dmg or whatever

[undone flower]

idk, i don't find bleeds very fun as fury

i would play ass rogue if i liked bleeds and dots

[coarse nest]

Fury owns Ja clappa bye bye

[undone flower]

it is ramp rotation "wins" longer fights, it's not bleeds or dots particurly

[rough trail]

Nah u want big hits + bleed

Don’t want to be a little shitty dagger wielder

[rough trail]

My guess would be ramping fits bleed 🩸

[coarse nest]

Warrior and rogue are always my go to class fantasy’s in games

[undone flower]

yes there is a relation with ramps and dots, but it can happen without it 100%

[rough trail]

Slayer being dull bleed then in execute u pop those bleeds 🤯

Bursting soars kekw

[undone flower]

it took me a while to arrive at the conclusion i'm a warrior in games

[coarse nest]

Oh yeah bro same my style is totally just full Zug into whatever I’m fighting and try to kill it before it kills me

Haha

[undone flower]

even tho there were signs / i played warrior on guild wars 2 (i played a shit ton when it was popular)

[rough trail]

They should make a ranged warrior build where u throw tomahawks

Am I cooking?

Brb applying to wow class design team

[undone flower]

and i played 2 one handed in skyrim

but i do like guns too, so i like those fantasy too

[coarse nest]

2h strength in all the souls games

Warrior like class in every mmo

[undone flower]

that fucking sword

everytime i play ds3, i just do the entire game with it

[coarse nest]

Zweihander was so damn cool in ds1

I should replay all the souls games

[undone flower]

i tried ds1 but it is too old for me

my first was ds3

[coarse nest]

I’d imagine ds1 is going to feel way too easy if I go back to it after playing through all the newer ones

[earnest canyon]

Dark Souls is a bad game

[undone flower]

yes DS1 felt really off for me, bc bosses were 1 melee swing every 10 seconds and SOMETIMES, they do a combo, it was so cringe to see

[coarse nest]

Me when I need to git gud

[undone flower]

and the entire game revolves around your endurance between each checkpoint x)

[earnest canyon]

I hate all the ds games but loved elden ring and Sekiro. Sekiro has the best combat of any FS game to me.

[undone flower]

i disliked sekiro, not fan of parry

i refunded Lies of P for the same reason

[earnest canyon]

I like fast combat that rewards you for split second timing. It's what made Bayonetta so great too

[undone flower]

i'm a dodger

[graceful elk]

Anyone here playing fury on ptr?

[coarse nest]

I don’t like to parry either

I like dodge

[earnest canyon]

You do both in Sekiro, in rapid succession

[undone flower]

idk why, you talked about bayonetta, it made me think i almost completly forgot the story etc of Nier, it is soon time to replay the gem

[coarse nest]

Nier was fun

[undone flower]

Nier is one of my favorite game

and with my favorite games : i don't play them until i forget the story

[slim coral]

yeah whats up

[earnest canyon]

I talked about Bayonetta cos the gameplay is amazing

[smoky vale]

insert bazedface picture spammed by xeoswonka

[graceful elk]

How’s it performing? All the guides say shit but wanted to actually ask someone who is playing it

[restive peak]

Fury is quite good, there are a few specs ahead

[slim coral]

if you take out the op specs it's good

[restive peak]

Even then, FDK/MM/Fire are not insanely far ahead

Just ahead

For pure ST we're very midpack, which is still good, and also the outlier upper ST specs are so far ahead they're def getting nerfed

[graceful elk]

So it’s still worth grinding at the start of the patch

[restive peak]

Also consider we lose very little ST swapping to AOE, so we'll be hyper competitive on the AOE fights

Of course, I mean you should always play what you prefer anyway

[graceful elk]

My guild usually tries to push hard for AOTC quickly and I like to help as much as I can while still playing shit I like if that makes sense

[slim coral]

for AOTC you'll be fine

[restive peak]

Fury will def be far and away good for AOTC

[graceful elk]

Is it that much better than arms in raid?

[restive peak]

Arms is DOA rn, tuning will happen but arms is dog

[bleak gale]

Arms might be good on nexus king with 2 target cleave and burst windows

[fast mural]

you mean fury ?

[restive peak]

It's so dead that fury would still likely be better

[fast mural]

dmg amp means fury is gonna blast

[smoky vale]

yeah bro the class with a flat damage profile si gonna crank

[pearl sequoia]

jsut proc slayer strike every milisecond during the amp

[fast mural]

did they remove avatar ?

[bleak gale]

Mountain Thane 1.5 minute burst might be good

[slim coral]

currently as of today yes

but real tuning has not happened

[reef loom]

Buff warrior

[sour elbow]

Delete spear and give us some other chonky ability that doesn't suck to use

[orchid dagger]

You mean spear

Just because you have 80 IQ and can't aim it doesn't mean the button is bad

[woven valley]

Neither spear nor roar are “chonky”

[thick fossil]

Bring back Ancient Aftershock!

[sour elbow]

whoa the hostility this early in the morning. How dare you assume my aiming abilities in 2025. I'm gonna tweet about this now

[thick fossil]

Damage and mastery buff!

[orchid dagger]

PvE moment

[sour elbow]

or like blood of the enemy, that felt good to press and was a nice burst

[orchid dagger]

Pinning some lock is always fun

[sour elbow]

make it a pvp talent then, fixed

[modest condor]

oh no a pvper with an opinion

[sour elbow]

its always just felt bad to use

[woven valley]

PvP hasn’t mattered in….ever

[sour elbow]

that explains why he was so aggressive above lol

[orchid dagger]

Oh no, a pve player not understanding all of the fun parts of woyer are pvp locked

[sour elbow]

oh boy

[willow cradle]

Ai pfp 🤢

[modest condor]

shoo, go back to your cage

[sour elbow]

there's a pvp channel for you to go insult people there and have cooked opinions in pumpkin

[orchid dagger]

Cry more

[orchid dagger]

Does baby need his nappy? Go gen up an AI blankie real quick

And while your at it go learn how your spec works

Maybe ChatGPT can tell you how to aim spear

[sour elbow]

LOL because I said spear sucks to use i don't know how my spec works???? hello? gtfo

[woven valley]

Go make out in dms you two kek

[smoky vale]

lost to bestest

w ragebait

[marble pilot]

Cant compete with the discords master baiter

[coarse nest]

Spear does suck to use

Never liked that button either

[marble pilot]

It isnt my favorite. But I feel like spear/roar/odyns/ravager are all the same button

[red berry]

theres a macro to cast it at you which is really all that matters in PvE

[junior gale]

Spear hasn't sucked to use since they changed it to not have to stand in it.

Spear performance wise just sucks

[marble pilot]

It isnt so much the standing in it. That did suck.
And the grip can be useful sometimes. Or reverse grip? I dunno what to call it.
But its just the same thing. Hit button interact with nothing and do normal rotation

At least odyns gives you ww stacks I guess. But all of them are just fire and forgetr

[junior gale]

A lot of CDs in the game are like that just hit button do more dmg

[marble pilot]

Which on its own is fine.

But how many classes have like 5. And you just pick the best one. And they all do the same thing

[orchid dagger]

It pins

But yeah, pve it sucks ass because it's basically not relevant to pin shit

And it deals negative damage

[marble pilot]

Its ok when im tanking. And you need to kite to drop a bleed or something. Makes the mobs stay behind. But so does any stun or slow

[coarse nest]

I have never once used it for its “utility”

It’s a damage tool

And it’s bad at that

[orchid dagger]

PvP

Pin some fuck off my flag

[coarse nest]

I’m not into PvP whatsoever but I can understand yeah

[orchid dagger]

But tbh a lot of buttons are vastly better in pvp

Just because of Battlefield Commander

[median falcon]

Anything I have to cast on ground with a reticule besides heroic leap is bad or anything that leaves a ground effect that a tank can move mobs out of is bad

[orchid dagger]

Imagine not using a @cursor macro

[median falcon]

has no business on warrior class

[orchid dagger]

Imagine not dropping aoe effects around the tank

[median falcon]

imagine using it but still don't care

you think I dont have the macro?

[orchid dagger]

Little bro Leap has been in the game since Wrath, pipe down

[median falcon]

listen weeb

you need to chill

[radiant plank]

spear is used with a @player macro

[orchid dagger]

PvE moment

[median falcon]

Its simply a personal preference, having to make macro around it is called a bandaid, not good design. If I wanted to cast things Id be on a caster

[orchid dagger]

no cast timer on spear

[coarse nest]

Yeah I also just use @player

[bleak gale]

No way people actually do this in m+ unless the mobs are perfectly grouped

[coarse nest]

I’m guilty 🤣

[marble pilot]

I think its always @ play for me as well. Same as ravager.

As a tank I think I place it. Been a minute since ive cared

[burnt oxide]

Im using normal targeting, or alt+keybind for selfcast

[coarse nest]

Ability with a placement circle has no business being on a melee

Permanently using @player

[orchid dagger]

Skill issue

[median falcon]

This kid lol

[orchid dagger]

Imagine not slowing some lock with well placed Ravager

[coarse nest]

No it isn’t I’m perfectly capable it’s just annoying

[median falcon]

Its not hard to use the macro, its not a skill thing its a preference thing

[burnt oxide]

As long as you have a way to place it normaly

[median falcon]

If I say I like cheese sammiches I am sure you got something to say about that too

[coarse nest]

Diet issue

[median falcon]

hahaha

[coarse nest]

[orchid dagger]

What cheese

[median falcon]

Pepperjack

[marble pilot]

Im still more upset that spear. roar. odyns. ravager. and somewhat bladestorm are all just fire and forget cooldowns. You just pick the best one. None of them do anything for the rotation at all.
Most classes have a button that at least changes the rotation somewhat

[bleak gale]

You are potentially losing out on half the area of the spear because it’s behind you. That will make hitting a group of enemies super hard. Single target is fine though

[coarse nest]

Ngl I prefer this

Zug and chill is why I like Warrior so much personally

I don’t want to play a mini game making my class perform while also doing a boss encounter

[marble pilot]

They could get rid of 3 of them and no one would notice. They dont have to change the rotation. But having 5 that do the same thing is lazy design.

Get rid of 3 and put anything else there

[burnt oxide]

The only one slightly changing the rotation is ravager, and it is not by much

[median falcon]

prob get some kind of rework right before midnight

[orchid dagger]

[marble pilot]

Ravager changes the rotation the same as a lucky crit streak does. Its just more rage

Could be worse though I guess.
BM hunters have no cooldowns

[orchid dagger]

Isn't BM clapping cheeks too?

Or just MM

[median falcon]

think BM still up there

[marble pilot]

I think its doing alright. Not as good as MM. Im not 100%

[median falcon]

skill ceiling so low on it I think it raises the value

[orchid dagger]

Yeah, just mash Kill Command and let pets do damage

[dense elbow]

I know it been said to death, but - for HC raiding, you dont have to care about any of the rules. Even if you are a "we clear the raid early" one Just farm some M+ HC track gear, and you will be far above 99% of ppl

[sinful spoke]

ezpz

[dense elbow]

Click it, you coward

[sinful spoke]

i did

i think i have like 10 total runs all time on icc

and i got it lole

chat am i washed?

[high sedge]

its joever

[dense elbow]

As long you do better than I, you still in the green

Didnt even know I played arms

[sinful spoke]

101k

is impressive i think

[fresh mango]

I got mine on first run ever yesterday

[sinful spoke]

famers mad

[coarse nest]

I think if averaged I’m more washed than you!

It’s joever

[sinful spoke]

We are cooked 💔 🥀

[glad coyote]

anyboidy know if m0's will be weekly or daily resets?

[dire vigil]

Weekly

[cyan star]

Blizzard posted fury changes

https://tenor.com/view/warrior-blizzard-wow-classic-push-hank-hill-gif-27417019

[cyan star]

(It’s a joke but also kinda not)

[olive wraith]

We got buffed the last 3 notes

[slim coral]

yeah but they werent real changes except for the thane tier set change that was good

like we're more looking for cd buffs

[olive wraith]

It’s not nothing

[slim coral]

capstones are down bad

[dense elbow]

They bring us up, only so they can knock us down

we already were so deep into the ground, that they couldnt physically push us further down. Bedrock stopped em.

So they brought us back to a nice push down distance from bedrock

just tall enough that it hurts, but not so tall that we had any advantages

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dance-cat-dance-gif-20491618

[olive wraith]

Damn you’re super doomy today

[orchid dagger]

He's right though

[inland flame]

God I would love a Prot Thane stray with no compensation in the next notes just to see everyone lose their minds

[olive wraith]

Biggest way to make him flop is Of buffs

Make it happen Blizz

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-en-sacrement-regard-de-feu-gif-15231722216266444049

[inland flame]

They're just trying to get us hype for Legion Remix

[dense elbow]

how to make Funky doomium levels go down: #protection message

[flat river]

fym, rock bottom has a basement and it's called fury

[light hedge]

Augmentation would like a talk

they really have been screwed

[sullen dove]

good

[olive wraith]

Isn’t ww trash as well

[dense elbow]

Nah, they just got trash players

performance is quite solid

[oblique thistle]

Funkys always like this

[sullen dove]

true

man this heroic strike sound effect in mop classic is actually insane

like a literal gun being fired

its kinda sick

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/stark-goes-fishing-looking-sad-stark-frieren-anime-gif-8208391870983667124

[modest condor]

i think i just got my 6th life-binders of the event

at least i finally got blazing as well

[remote bobcat]

gzz

did u get experiment?

[modest condor]

yeah i got that on my first kill of the event lol

[remote bobcat]

ive run dsoul like 25 times this event and only ever got one life-binders

[dreamy hemlock]

How good/bad will fury be in s3? I’m really tired of my friends talking about stupid tier lists left and right… is it still viable or actually cooked?

[modest condor]

better than current season

[remote bobcat]

tell them to shut the fuck up because tier lists dont fucking matter and everything is up in the air

[modest condor]

havent seen enough runs to know how good it will actually be because everybody on ptr is playing fdk and mm which are both broken atm

[remote bobcat]

tier lists are generic yt content bait

and ur friends are falling for it

=)

[fickle stirrup]

Luck is crazy in this event at times.
Im character capped with everyone at either 70 or 80 and it took me 2 weeks to get G.M.O.D. but only 1 kill for Mimiron's Head -_-

[modest condor]

i only have like 10 alts that are capable of clearing old raids, and most of them are lvl 50-60 lol

[smoky vale]

me when tierlists are irrelevant until +18s and even then having better players is more important than better classes

[winter shoal]

idk I feel like Funky is usually pretty upbeat, bro has been in his feelings recently

[modest condor]

my worst one so far was ashes of alar which took me almost 2 full weeks of runs, so probably like 17 or 18 kills

[winter shoal]

Is everything okay big dawg @dense elbow

[humble plover]

Yo. Love that guy

[dense elbow]

why you ask

[dense elbow]

a true warrior

[winter shoal]

Just checking in on the homies

[dense elbow]

ppl just seem to think I am dead serious, even when I do a dancing cat vibe gif

https://tenor.com/view/city-hunter-ryo-saeba-shrug-i-dont-know-i-dont-care-gif-14623021

[earnest canyon]

You are a pretty serious and aggressive person

[dense elbow]

Clearly

[earnest canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/cloris-leach-man-gif-20137493

[dense elbow]

Me when there is no OF buff the 3rd day in a row

[hot shore]

And than they buff onslaught

[cosmic sundial]

Funky is my spirit animal

[sour frigate]

Mine too

[wintry hatch]

Do we know what slot is going to be best to recraft our embellishments onto ready for next patch ? Is it going to be on off tier piece or will it just be belt/bracers once the delve belt gets outscaled?

[winter shoal]

Do we know? No.
We can assume that weapon -> wrists is a safe choice again though like it was the past two patches

[wintry hatch]

Cheers friend with no special weapons this patch i guess that makes sense .

[elder epoch]

is the crit on belt not good for people?

it sims 30k more for me

but everyone is using the nature damage bolt

[winter shoal]

People should've switched off that over a month ago #updates-midnight message

Critical chain has been better for a while now

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/what-did-i-just-read-reading-samuel-johnson-joshua-reynolds-reaction-gif-14997728

[elder epoch]

looking at logs everyone is playing the bolt

[winter shoal]

I think logs are chalked

[elder epoch]

nvm

it doesnt show on logs

[winter shoal]

Do you see the actual proc

[elder epoch]

it always shows the bolt when hovering over the item

[graceful talon]

i think it's messed up on raider io pages too
all the belts just show the bolt proc

[winter shoal]

Logs are very useful for a lot of things

Gear is frequently not one of those things

[radiant plank]

isnt there a big ass statement on wclogs too that its not displaying belt

[umbral whale]

Crit streams making me want to main fury over enhance

[pine gust]

Crit streams make blizzard think about nerfing fury

[dense elbow]

Based on the numbers ppl are performing... I really hope not.

[brittle crow]

no fury buffs?

fury dead

[dense elbow]

seems like fury will need about a, 15% overall nerf, aura - with some downtuning of our CDs

[pine gust]

Justified tbh

[dense elbow]

Also, Feral need a bout a 100% aura buff

[earnest canyon]

They checked fury streams and only critcake out there. We need some shitters who are just below the tank to stream fury

[pine gust]

Gimme a moment, imma stream

[winter shoal]

Me when I've been screaming from the rooftops that fury is good and runs of MDI champs playing meta comps aren't representative of the average M+ group but nobody has listened

[dense elbow]

That moment you think 5m overall DPS is good overall DPS

[inland flame]

I'm your man. I'll go live tonight.

[dense elbow]

What that tells us, is that feral needs a 100% HP buff

[winter shoal]

REAL

[terse spear]

need help I feel like im doing something wrong, my dps seems so low

[dense elbow]

Imagine if we get tuned around this shitter DPS - and we are straight back to being 10-20% behind in keys again

[meager hound]

https://tenor.com/view/its-my-moment-to-shine-joblessgarrett-its-my-time-this-is-my-chance-my-time-has-come-gif-19003233

[dense elbow]

[dense elbow]

Your gear is low, dont worry about it

[pine gust]

Need logs to really tell anything

[dense elbow]

The list:

• Gear
• Rotation
• Then ask for help

You stop at gear

get gear

[pine gust]

And I think you press execute too much

[terse spear]

i mean tht warrior tank was almost my same level with 3 levels diff and and similar dps

[jade ocean]

If you watch Gucciwarrior's stream, the Fury is doing 40% less damage than the hunter.

[dense elbow]

Lets not compare ourselves to hunters tho

unless...

[pine gust]

Hunter is in a good spot

Said some Blizzard employee

Probably

[sullen dove]

[dense elbow]

Time for you to go to fight club

[sullen dove]

uhh.. nah

[gilded pawn]

What’s vanishing powder

[sullen dove]

stupid shit you have to buy

[olive wraith]

Must be a rogue thing

[dense elbow]

Something you need to swap a talent, apparently

[summer quail]

isnt that the harry potter thing that teleports you

[brittle crow]

oh i need to do mop into this month for a mount

dont i

[sullen dove]

think just panda starting zone

[brittle crow]

yea that's what i meant

i dont wannaaaa

[summer quail]

https://tenor.com/view/harrypotter-gif-7966636

this thing

[brittle crow]

i also wanted to do more mount farming during the event but im all burnt out

[simple shell]

future proof next tier. Should I go for 2h mace from bandit or gally trinket? I have weapons with 2x mastery

[brittle crow]

i feel cooked

[dense elbow]

Next tier, any thing you do this tier doesnt matter

[simple shell]

ye but early :>

[sullen dove]

i mean bis prolly better than kezan

[brittle crow]

ur gonna replace it with a shitty crit/vers 2hander from m0

who care

[simple shell]

so trinket u say

[brittle crow]

prob

[sullen dove]

but yea like ilvl > everything for weapons and kezan maybe good ish on some of the longer fights early onbut like can just spam dungeons sand insta replace trinket too

[dense elbow]

I say you need flamevents

flamevents is BiS

get flamevents

[brittle crow]

let's goooo flamevents

[sullen dove]

do not ever listen to this creature

[dense elbow]

flamevents gang!

[brittle crow]

get flamevents

[sullen dove]

ratfang angle

[simple shell]

ok i bought that one ty

[gilded pawn]

We got flamevent?

[brittle crow]

lets go flamevents

[simple shell]

secret tech? nice

[dense elbow]

Yep, reduces your damage by at least 30%

its BiS

[indigo arch]

we're forgetting the true dps lootspec peak

[simple shell]

ohh u mean I become ethical dps

[meager hound]

If every Fury warrior reduces their damage by 30%, then Blizz will buff our damage by 30%, right? It's the perfect crime!

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/jujutsu-kaisen-gif-20671531

[celest halo]

Holy crap someone get this person a podium

[indigo arch]

https://tenor.com/view/billy-herrington-gif-22770755

[dense elbow]

Oh no~~~

Crit is playing with real DPS players now

[brittle crow]

more like crit skill issue

[dense elbow]

True, if only crit pressed his buttons better and harder

[simple shell]

how big troll if i go 1h fury dual wiel

d

[winter shoal]

Currently like 8-10% dps loss

[dense elbow]

Context of where you use it, matters

[winter shoal]

Next patch maybe less because no BIS

But yeah context matters

[dense elbow]

In your friends push-keys? Gigatroll
In your weekly key? No troll to be found

[silk wharf]

if you're using the new 1h sword from legion timewalking its a 25% buff.

[simple shell]

😮

[silk wharf]

It looks that good

[simple shell]

why dont they just flat add 10% more dmg when u use single minded fury

are they stupid?

just code it in

[dense elbow]

Cause you are not supposed to go for SMF

It is worse on purpose, by design, it is intended

[jade ocean]

Fury warrior's dps is FINE. It's Critcake who lost his hands.

[silk wharf]

There was a minute in the past I thought they were going to position SMF as the execute spec for fury but then... they didn't.

[dense elbow]

Crit is currently complaining about Arms Slayer DPS, and still doing more than he did as Fury Slayer

Just because of the DPS player swap of his team mates

[gilded pawn]

When was this

[dense elbow]

Better nerf Fury

[silk wharf]

It was for like one patch in bfa I think, though I could be really off here. SMF got some sort of flat buff and was technically a little better in execute. Which just made me think that was the plan. But it just fell behind again. It may have just been the axe with the proc propping it up though.

[remote bobcat]

@sudden tusk video when

[olive wraith]

Same key?

[umbral whale]

Fdk still so way overtuned

[simple shell]

its class rework

its as intended

[pine gust]

Typical class rework

[dense elbow]

To make things a tad more clear:

It is almost like there is a ton of variables and nothing is the same, as such the information given is pointless. Yet, I still bring it up in an exaggerated manner - why would this be

Also, better nerf Fury

[inland flame]

Ferf Nury

Uff Barms

[olive wraith]

You baited me? How dare you

-10% to of

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-sad-gif-25099654

[warm crag]

nothing changes

[olive wraith]

It’s about sending a message

[chilly fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/despair-suffer-suffering-sad-sad-quotes-gif-14270258133567956444

[vernal laurel]

Anyone else getting "Access violation" popup when you try loging into PTR?

[dense elbow]

I can check real quick

Nah, I got in - no worries

[vernal laurel]

Aight, i get it while in loading screen after pressing enter world

Same for my friends atm

Doing a scan and repair i guess, hope that helps

[dense elbow]

Nah, it is a ptr thing

just wait it out

[analog kite]

So fury the go to in s3?

[vernal laurel]

Was thinking that, ty for checking!

[dense elbow]

Any day

[earnest canyon]

U need to buy a new PC

[dense elbow]

Noh, I like the ones I have

[south kayak]

I have an idea for a talent

Every time you cleave during whirlwind, the damage of your next ww is increased by 20%

[analog kite]

That’s already a talent

Lul

But it’s 200%

[dense elbow]

I dont hate it, as it is just a pure AoE bump up and it doesnt have us spam WW

Kinda fits with how meatcleaver already functions

hmyeah, sure, I can see it

Probably reformulate it to: "When you consume a stack of meatcleaver, gain a stack of [name] increasing the damage of your next Whirlwind by X% stacking up to 4 times."

Make Meatcleaver 4 stacks baseline, make the followup talent this.

[south kayak]

Yeah that’s why I thought if it

[olive wraith]

Each time you consume a meat cleaver stack you cast a ww

[south kayak]

It would remove the spam of ww

[dense elbow]

Doing multiple casts of WW, per stack, would cause issues. From the increase of number of events for the server to handle. To rage gain, to procs, to so much.

%dam amp is just simple, a bit boring, but it works

[olive wraith]

TB should apply cshb

[dense elbow]

Instead of increasing rampage and execute damage, or something?

[olive wraith]

Nah don’t need execute we have purple face

Ramp buff would be nice though

[dense elbow]

Ya will be adding a lot of damage, like a lot a lot.

So you would have to take something away

[frozen cosmos]

Make it share a node with the rb Talent that buffs rampage?

[dense elbow]

Would probably not make up for it, we talking uncapped CSHB spread

[olive wraith]

Just tune down the bleed

[dense elbow]

So now we gonna rebalance the talent for every other scenario?

Nah, I say it a dead idea at this point

[olive wraith]

Why it would gain uptime

[frozen cosmos]

I think a Tallent that auto casts ww at the last meat cleaver would be nice

[dense elbow]

Slayer then would spread CSHB when they Bladestorm?

Even that wouldnt be good enough

Every time Slayer Reap I guess

Nah, I love the WW idea above - but not your cook

[olive wraith]

Oh right you’re a slayer fan

[dense elbow]

Even if I werent, I would be against it

[sullen dove]

w mop lfg comp

[dense elbow]

As long you top the meters, it is a W

[olive wraith]

Main issue I hear is the whole cap part

Figure uncapped bleed like arms would be helpful

[dense elbow]

They do be loud about that

[olive wraith]

And make roar better too

[dense elbow]

I would be more agreeable to if Roar caused CSHB on all enemies, but blast - it is just cast too often, it is already 2% of our DPS for one talent. It only applying on BT crits.

The DPS gain - I cant even calculate it in my head, it will be gigantic

[olive wraith]

I mean it could be fury version of dw

[dense elbow]

It could be, sure - but at that point, if you want to be a bleed build. Why not go arms?

The WW idea above does what you want, uncapped AoE dam up, but it is doing it so much better. And it would improve your TB to huge levels.

[olive wraith]

Not really a bleed build if it only does 2-5%

[dense elbow]

That is exciting

Your change is just a passive bleed, it is boring and uninspirted

sure, it is damage

it is just boring damage

[south kayak]

There was an anima power in torghast that made rampage auto cast WW

It was glorious

[dense elbow]

(it was amazing for thorgast) If we had that as a passive, the gameplay loop would be too simplified for my likeing. And I like it simple, count to 5 simple.

[south kayak]

I agree

I wouldn’t be against it though

[dense elbow]

I am, same reason as with the CSHB idea, I dont see it gain us anything but just being a boring or clunky way to just get damage meter to go up

Your WW idea tho - now that I rally behind. Sounds fun

[brittle crow]

pair it with the one that makes ww grip things

i do be pressing rampage

[south kayak]

Yeah it does help with slayers target capped aoe

Idk what to do with TB with that talent

Maybe just put it in Slayer

[dense elbow]

Also helps Thane, as I presume it would affect clap as well

[south kayak]

Seems like it would be too strong for thane

Or just reduce the %

For thane

[brittle crow]

tb every ramp

huge

[south kayak]

That’s insane

Nah

[dense elbow]

As Thane blast more than every 5 at times, it isnt that broken. But, concern would be it forcing you to hold blast and stack up first...

Hmyeah, maybe a slayer only thing

Could replace reap in the damage profile

[tepid cedar]

I’m not a fan of reap
Just bc I would rather use ravager as slayer

[dense elbow]

Noone likes reap

RNG pice of garbadge doodoo water

[south kayak]

I think reap should always proc on 5 targets.

[smoky vale]

yeah you are that @dense elbow

[dense elbow]

Cute Gio, cute

[south kayak]

Lmao

[smoky vale]

:3

[dense elbow]

They need to remove reap from unhinged tho, and make it so it doesnt make BS feel good or bad, based on its procs

[raw magnet]

I think damage rng procs on prot feels better than on fury or arms

Which is why I am looking forwards to the rando ravager proc talent

[south kayak]

That’s a goated talent

[south kayak]

That should actually be a talent instead of Storm of Steel for fury wtf

[raw magnet]

Though i am also looking forward to thane with Fury given I heard ptr ppl saying you can chain proc thunder blast, and i want to later try a cooked single minded fury strat in mid-m+ with it

[dense elbow]

You want just random bladestorms going off?

I dont want that

[south kayak]

It can do something else for BS

But mostly aoe help

[raw magnet]

Ill take random bladestorms if i can use my abilities during them

[tepid cedar]

Fkn each rb increases reap chance by 20%

[south kayak]

Instead of unhinged being ST

[dense elbow]

Lets not move more things into RB

[raw magnet]

Imagine pvp, fury bladestorm rng proc but you can also do other things

[dense elbow]

I beg

[raw magnet]

Never get ccd

big pog

[tepid cedar]

I mean devs love rb

Might aswell embrace it

[dense elbow]

Devs do have that RB fever

[south kayak]

It can do something else that would help it in AoE. random BS is way too disruptive

[raw magnet]

"Rampage has 10% chance to proc bladestorm at 50% effectiveness for 4 seconds, can use abilities during it"

big tierset potential

pvp top 1

[dense elbow]

not my cup of tea

[raw magnet]

Never get ccd again

[dense elbow]

not my cup of tea

[raw magnet]

It's your cup of tea to get ccd?

[dense elbow]

I believe in gamebalance, and CC is part of that

[tepid cedar]

But I think we are actually in a good spot now

Give us a 5-8% aura buff

[dense elbow]

In what way, Apo - and about what?

Just overall performance

Reap

RB?

[tepid cedar]

And we’re fine the way it is

[dense elbow]

Bladestorm?

[tepid cedar]

As it stands right now

[dense elbow]

We got a lot of topics going on

[tepid cedar]

In or

[dense elbow]

So as it stands with what

[tepid cedar]

Ptr

[raw magnet]

Gimme intervene-spell reflect

that's the utility we need

[tepid cedar]

The tier set s changes etc

Cause they won’t do a rework

[dense elbow]

(4) still got a chance for a retouch

[tepid cedar]

And we got some great uplifts

[south kayak]

Doubt

[tepid cedar]

But yea I doubt they change anything. Else

But an aura buff could be in line to close that gap a tad bit more

[dense elbow]

From RB to Execute

[tepid cedar]

And give us a niche somewhat

[storm birch]

Been playing around with slayer in ptr and it actually feels pretty darn fun ngl

[dense elbow]

Well, talking about balance, yeah - we only a touch away from being in a great spot. Slayer needing the more heavy handed boop of the two.

(no we not talking raid here, raiders, back to the nether with you)

[tepid cedar]

Going off some of the numbers I seen from ppl playing ptr

[dense elbow]

I could hear them shrieking

[tepid cedar]

Arms needs like a 10% aura

And fury could do with 6% more

[storm birch]

Arms def needs help from what I’ve seen.

[dense elbow]

5% sounds fair, if the outliers get brought 10% down

[storm birch]

Honestly I thought fury was pumpin. Then I saw some havoc gameplay and I’m like wtf is this dmg

I hadn’t heard anyone say anything about havoc but they’re going nuts

[tepid cedar]

It’s like that now lol

[dense elbow]

Hehe, yeah - many dont know how strong certain specs are

ppl even sleep on survival hunter, that is basically BM, and BM is close to MM... MM is a big outlier

[storm birch]

My testing has been decent for slayer and thane but I feel I’m only getting the pug experience. I need to see in a premade with consistent big pills and adds pulled in with bosses etc how that dmg shakes out. Cause in a pug setting fury feels great in both respects. But they’re 2 different experiences

[dense elbow]

meanwhile Fury is happy being bottom of the meters; because we top the worst DPS players known to man

[storm birch]

I just no have group 😭

[dense elbow]

This point is why I feel Fury should get a buff. We not excelling in a PuG enviroment.

I am waiting for the things to be optimised, and we got nothing to be optimised around.

[limber oar]

More likely theyre gonna nerf the top performing specs a bit than buff us more

[smoky vale]

my only group testing on ptr was brew 3 fury resto :p

[limber oar]

If fury gets 0 buffs more but 0 nerfs ill be content ngl

Arms needs god tho

[storm birch]

LOL the true experience. Did you come out on top against the other 2 fury 😎

[dense elbow]

I wont be content, I will play - but I will complain

[smoky vale]

no 5 warrior mains so i had to heal

[dense elbow]

I dont want another season of always being bottom DPS in keys

[smoky vale]

[limber oar]

Normal complaining is our firm of content

[storm birch]

Ahhhh I see

[smoky vale]

reroll noob

[limber oar]

*form

[dense elbow]

I cant

OF is only for Fury

[smoky vale]

there is tempest

[dense elbow]

OF for MM hunter when?

Another 15% BS buff, 10% WW buff and OF 60% buff, and we looking foward to a great season

[south kayak]

Are we though

[sinful spoke]

no

[south kayak]

Are you saying 75% cleave

SS is at 75% lol

Cooked

[storm birch]

Idk the changes I think would be lit (and I know nothing about balance and how these could break the spec so grain of salt here)

Thane-

reduce the bonus damage from 4 set and compensate with a flat thunder blast damage increase.

Increase proc rate like 5-10% ish

Slayer-

Raise reap proc from RB damage increase a bit more.

Buff BS and WW one more time like they just did

Both - increase spear duration 2 seconds and have it tether 8 target.

Honestly this would make me happy. I have no basis for for these changes I’m just bsing

[olive wraith]

No actual ww damage I think

[south kayak]

10% isn’t really a lot for WW

[storm birch]

Yea but it’s a soft capped ability right? So it’s a welcomed buff

[south kayak]

I’d really like the proposed thane set change

[storm birch]

Yea make procs still feel good but make the dmg not so reliant on getting procs

Or up the rng a little so it’s a bit more consistent. I do enjoy the current iteration though!

[chilly fractal]

Welp… got all of the mounts available from the event… gonna save me a lot of time going forward not having to bother anymore

[south kayak]

Yeah, I feel like it doesn’t have to be 100% damage, especially since getting a charge and a reset of TB is enough of a dopamine boost

It could be 50% set with a 20% TB buff

[storm birch]

Yup!! Then outside of procs we still cook, but procs rng adds that extra like IM PUMPINNNN

[orchid dagger]

OnlyFrost you mean

[smoky vale]

@pulsar quest hi sir do you have a fg :3

[coarse nest]

[smoky vale]

do you have a 19 fg @coarse nest

[coarse nest]

I have no guess as to what fg is short for lol

[plush zephyr]

Flood gate

[coarse nest]

Oh right duh

[south kayak]

Yeah. That’s just the known abbreviation dude

We all know it here