monk buff diff
#fury
radiant plank
bitter palm
radiant plank
5% vs 8%
slim coral
radiant plank
they will definetly remeber to tune us with the nerfed mystic touch in mind
radiant plank
reap is soooo cool
bitter palm
u press cleave so it procs reap
bitter palm
i wish cleave just did more dmg icl
radiant plank
gotta play collat in every situation
inland flame
Even ST, Collat for days
inland flame
Rework surely coming
radiant plank
Shuurely
bitter palm
đ
gloomy narwhal
Hey, we already have a SIM mono on PTR?
remote bobcat
why is it that french people never use english wow lingo when players of every other language do
radiant plank
Fr*nch
earnest canyon
charred drum
why is it that french people never use english wow lingo when players of every o...
Cause they can't it has been scientifically proven that french ppl can't speak english
indigo sigil
jambon beurre
charred drum
Brain too small or smt
indigo sigil
charred drum
You spelled mmythic wrong
remote bobcat
bitter palm
"mm" instead of mythic
why do some people say nhc
indigo sigil
no ptr nwes today ?
rare forum
why do some people say nhc
non-heroic
rare forum
looks better in written form imo
remote bobcat
why do some people say nhc
no clue, people are weird for sure
but its better than fr*nch people saying hm
for heroic
remote bobcat
you right you right
it does need to get censored
lemme actually go back and edit the message
earnest canyon
why i look at this channel and again...
Mdr!
undone flower
ptdr
dense elbow
Happy honhonhon noices
cerulean badger
Guys, you think nhc raid with 684 people is going to be pushover?
radiant plank
nhc?:)
radiant plank
Great video, great commentary. Thanks @sudden tusk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9bJhvC17S0
sour frigate
You gonna Bladestrom irl when your Espresso consume continues xd
I do onslaught irl at surgery dpt
sour frigate
@dense elbow we ball
remote bobcat
Great video, great commentary. Thanks @sudden tusk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9bJhvC17S0
gleaming siren
Great video, great commentary. Thanks @sudden tusk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9bJhvC17S0
It was great while it lasted
Anyway
Madox online in FFXIV for 45 minutes
Watering Lalafel in Limsa?
@clever belfry
sudden tusk
no i had to buy this
clever belfry
Great video, great commentary. Thanks <@110993922691477504> https://www.youtube....
what has occured here
sudden tusk
i have killed the video remaking it
clever belfry
@oblique trail we need to water them
drowsy heron
Madox online in FFXIV for 45 minutes
moving to the better game kekw
clever belfry
whats the fucking video
sudden tusk
clever belfry
hors
sudden tusk
i bought that and am making a mog for it
gleaming siren
Uma man
sudden tusk
whats the fucking video
video on why warrior players seem to be unhappy all the time, however i think its actually a great video idea and i executed it very poorly
so im going to actually put effort into a video for once
and make it okay instead of record and send
sudden tusk
ive got some cooks
drowsy heron
when you spend 2 xpacs being mediocre to bad with blizzard constantly ignoring your concerns it makes complete sense to be mad at the devs
sudden tusk
im gonna use the same thing azro uses
sudden tusk
it honestly might be a day or two
remote bobcat
thas ok
drowsy heron
even more so when you see multiple classes get giga reworks (some getting multiple reworks) makes the sting even worse
dense elbow
I like the points brought up on the 2nd slide
radiant plank
Better be in comic sans
sudden tusk
keep that up and ill use BAZOOKA
clever belfry
use this one
sudden tusk
dont have that
clever belfry
loser
radiant plank
Expressway
sudden tusk
using free version of office
hardy shuttle
Wingdings
clever belfry
https://tenor.com/view/cartoon-garn47-car-garn47-car-garn47-scared-car-scared-gi...
hope it burns me to death
remote bobcat
YERRR
robust basin
Where is slide 2
pearl sequoia
Reason 1: we cant read what our talents or spells do
earnest canyon
Don't do powerpoint, most warriors cant read
dense elbow
Anyone know of someone who played M+ Slayer on the PTR that got a vod? I need to watch some goodstuff, cause I am dooming
radiant plank
dans played it yday
dense elbow
ya got his link avaible? 
dense elbow
hero
torpid elbow
has wow vault opened yet?
oblique trail
@clever belfry when did you last meow?
clever belfry
<@173741974493462528> when did you last meow?
right meow
oblique trail
right meow
keep up the good work
shy atlas
dense elbow
For fun, as season is basically is over, I guess
dense elbow
Wouldnt suprise me
warm crag
idc me pump
idk not impressive mage is in a bad state and warrior is just broken
sour frigate
đŞ đ
sour frigate
Wouldnt suprise me
u bassboosted 
dense elbow
the heck does bassboosted mean
sour frigate
clever path
u bassboosted <:sadge:820202363359854633>
What is that lmao
Can you check now who has resilient and stuff
dense elbow
Ye, that is old news
coarse nest
Resil boost is bis
dense elbow
Imagine getting invited to non-resi keys
clever path
Ye, that is old news
Itâs a website or an add on or smth? Wasnât aware of it till now, I could use some incriminating evidence against my buddyâs 𤣠𤣠đ¤Ł
dense elbow
its one of many websites doing just that, no clue what site that is in particular - but it isnt the "kill resi" site atleast. They got a dagger stabbing the key over and over
sour frigate
clever path
Wasnât this week supposed to be a build for PTR?
dense elbow
WHERE DID THAT BAT GO?!
midnight sierra
Tung tung tung sahur
dense elbow
Oh no, it is one of em brainrot memes
sinful spoke
yea
sour frigate
coarse nest
winter shoal
but its tuesday morning for blizzard
It's 7:30 pacific time, those mfs are not even awake yet
tepid cedar
this event has been so fuckinbg asmazing. i started with single sigits. i hope they do it again in the future
radiant plank
It's 7:30 pacific time, those mfs are not even awake yet
Not awake by 3am?
must be white collars
smh
coarse nest
Just work 9-5 as blue collar ez
âWork when you want to work, Iâll pay you accordinglyâ
Great boss
tepid cedar
lol servers are so fucked
sinful spoke
yea
chrome wraith
this event has been so fuckinbg asmazing. i started with single sigits. i hope...
people still care about mounts in 2025?
tepid cedar
when the event is bascally giving shit out ion a month people have farmed for years and no succcess asblutely
and i literally have nothing else to do. cant even want stuff freom vault as absiolutely nothing wil increase dps anymore, might as well farm
modest condor
good for you
chrome wraith
ty
tepid cedar
have u guys started working/fondling with 11.2 apl yet?
dense sedge
My guys, currently thane looks pretty good I donât have access to ptr but where do you see it sitting with other dps. Like is it around middle of the pack
rigid stirrup
good enough to be fun for a while probably wont have enough throughput to not feel bad in the highest keys
aka same as past 2 seasons
tepid cedar
as much as i like to doom. thats nbot true
compared to this past season we are 100x better
blissful kestrel
are NA servers broken for anyone else
tepid cedar
and it seems like in a spot that, if u play well and correctly. u will not be outdpsed by joe blow who has no brain buyt is playing a meta spec like it is now
sinful spoke
are NA servers broken for anyone else
yes
pine gust
and it seems like in a spot that, if u play well and correctly. u will not be o...
that sounds like any non-meta spec
which is ok
rigid stirrup
I mean also depends on the key level right
pine gust
But we will see
rigid stirrup
your meta slaves at the high levels are probably still gonna out dps you
but meta slaves in mid tier keys are gonna always be mid
because they're stuck in the mid tier level keys
tepid cedar
even the connecting servers are fucked. im always connected to chicago. seems routing is fucked
winter shoal
My guys, currently thane looks pretty good I donât have access to ptr but where ...
Doesn't everyone have access to PTR
It's public
rigid stirrup
I think you have to opt in or something
winter shoal
but yeah it's strong but not meta, probably one of the strongest non-meta specs
tepid cedar
i cant wait to see APL
rigid stirrup
If you can find a phys comp team you'll be cooking hard
winter shoal
i cant wait to see APL
Press TB and BT a lot
dense sedge
Fuck yeah
eternal sundial
i cant wait to see APL
Look the the spreadsheet and check the current WIP apl ezpz
winter shoal
Is thane even in the spreadsheet?
But also the spreadsheet numbers are extremely fake
Half of the specs are probably using 8% mystic touch and half are using 5%
tepid cedar
Look the the spreadsheet and check the current WIP apl ezpz
where is WIP, i was checking under branches but dont see anyhting
winter shoal
Oh I forgot about that xdd
eternal sundial
Same old
ICL i know what's in there but havent actually looked APL
Dont think i play this tier
winter shoal
thane also not in that sheet
But yeah afaik thane APL is basically the same except
- BT > ramp in aoe (regardless of rage) if you aren't already at 2xTB
- BT > RB in single target (normal rage rules for rampage probably apply?) if you aren't already at 2xTB
and roar is down horrendous for both thane and slayer
probably still worth pressing in aoe, less so in single target
eternal sundial
thane also not in that sheet <:keks:936231610850897992>
Wb is all arms mains
đŚ
summer quail
i just saw they added a neck to floodgate on zorthas stream. big mast/vers neck
winter shoal
We'll find out the specific prio of those things in due time tho, stuff is getting re-tuned on a weekly basis anyways so not really worth worrying about specifics atp
winter shoal
Wb is all arms mains
arms needs jesus rn
eternal sundial
Yep
tepid cedar
and roar is down horrendous for both thane and slayer
fuck roar bring spear back
jsut which they would rework spear
winter shoal
Crit was using spear the other day as thane
winter shoal
I'm a spear hater so I won't use it anyways
glad coyote
servers still down
tepid cedar
but asd i said it before. remove the 2 capstones. combine champions might with base spear. capstone shjould be increase raidus by 50% and increase time by 2 seconds
boom. spear is good
winter shoal
Spear still 5 targets right?
If you're going to have a capstone to increase the radius, you probably would want to increase the target cap too otherwise the radius change means nothing
tepid cedar
well with us being 5 target capped increased spear cap would do nothing for us
in the sens eof the extra criut damage
however increased raidus would still hit more mobs in the process
with only the intital 5 tethers getting the increased crit
toxic jewel
are the servers still down?
tepid cedar
they need to come up so i can go ahead and loot this m jastor or hoc with speed on it
smoky vale
you dont have one with leech or
vocal fog
So whats to recraft wrist and?
sullen dove
like... now?
idk wrist and cape/belt usually probably
assuming u got 684 all the other slots
radiant plank
Just wait for the eventual Archi post smh
tepid cedar
yea fuck leech
speed is kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing
got a pace and eye with speed. be zooooomiiing
smoky vale
swordish
thick fossil
Is there something wrong with the login servers?
tepid cedar
damn thought i got in
thick fossil
It's been sitting at "Retrieving character list" for awhile.
That's further than me. lol
storm birch
tepid cedar
â¤ď¸ beautiful sight
dense sedge
Love that
limber oar
Clowning on the fotm short bus kids
thick fossil
coarse nest
By the time you finish licking an entire window the server will be back up
thick fossil
Especially if they have that flavored Windex.
sinful spoke
By the time you finish licking an entire window the server will be back up
no need to lick a window when yo momma right there
storm birch
Clowning on the fotm short bus kids
fun times
coarse nest
storm birch
they weren't really bad at their spec it was moreso the bad pull sizes
sullen dove
indie company
we excited for 2 back to back 8 hour maintenances for 11.2 and s3 start
bout that time again
brittle crow
fury buffs during maintenance im sure
dense elbow
Fury buffs confirmed you say? Aight, spread the word
storm rune
why do they keep buffing WW? I thought y'all were joking when you said it does as much as Odyns
unique locust
Storm bolt now does +100% dmg to targets immune to stun
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
olive wraith
why do they keep buffing WW? I thought y'all were joking when you said it does a...
I mean you use it so frequently itâs low key a good buff. But yes itâs sad that it does more than a spell at the bottom of the tree
olive wraith
Charge knocks the target back by 1 yard
storm rune
honestly that would be low key great if it was bumped up a yard or two
warrior could finally have mob displacement utility
storm rune
as a ST disrupt it'd still be cool
olive wraith
The longer you hold the farther the knock back is
storm rune
oooh charge weaving for max effect
Leap tech is back
distance from target = greater effect
spare steppe
Charging makes you immune to knockbacks for 1.5s after use
olive wraith
Wrecking throw increases the damage you deal to the target by 10% stacking up to 3 times
gilded pawn
storm rune
Then how would I do 10% more damage than everyone else?
winter shoal
play better
dense elbow
Wrecking Throw now sunders your targets armor
winter shoal
winner?
olive wraith
Piercing howl lowers affected targets armor by 50%
edgy widget
See, this is why it's really good that they don't take yall's suggestions
olive wraith
lol I know Iâm just messing around with abilities we donât really use
dense elbow
Bersker rage now pulses a armor sundering stacking debuff every sec for its duration
rose bay
Give arms enrage again, give fury deep wounds scaling, give prot both
edgy widget
we do use berserker rage
rose bay
God bless having it it feels wierd when i dont
olive wraith
How would we apply deep wounds currently
olive wraith
Onslaught!
dense elbow
Nah, raging blow
dense elbow
you are forgetting it, so it is getting a bit weak at current direction
rose bay
Bring back wild strike
dense elbow
It needs that bleed
olive wraith
đ¤Ł
rose bay
True suffering
dense elbow
When you raging blow a bleeding target, the bleed flares up, causing you to strike all targets within 20 yards with a 'Raaaging Blow' a copy of raging blow.
rose bay
Bring back skull banner
mandatory Warrior and gives us the utility we have been crying for
Im hear to buff the raid and collect loot!
dense elbow
When you use ravager, you now equip a banner on your back and all friendlies gaing 20% crit rating for the duration
olive wraith
Oh make ravager give deep wounds
rose bay
Battle shout now has a 1 min cd, everytime u should u throw out a random banner, it can be demo, necro, or skull
dense elbow
Sure, add that too, so it got synergy with the new raging blow
olive wraith
Make ravager cast raging blow instead of bt at this point too
rose bay
really do wish bt felt better
olive wraith
Titanic rage casts rb on all affected targets
rose bay
has a cool ability proc attached 2 it and still rb is better
maybe the devs are cooking in whatever comes after midnight?
3 am?
summer quail
just slaughtering strikes is enough
dense elbow
Nah, you weakening RB like that, stop
rose bay
is rb our wither?
olive wraith
Just add bt to slaughtering
dense elbow
Ok, so what if, after you BT, your next four raging blows deal 150% more damage.
I fixed it
summer quail
is rb our wither?
idk what you mean by that
dense elbow
you now want to press BT
rose bay
idk what you mean by that
me 2
Rip crushing assult
insert cat gift rampe->ca, ca
I will say for all of arms armsness right now, atleast it hits hard, i push ms, it crits, i happy
rose bay
Meow!
thick fossil
See, this is why it's really good that they don't take yall's suggestions
What did I miss?
dense elbow
What did I miss?
thick fossil
Where notes?
radiant plank
5 more hours minimum
dense elbow
If it goes over that, I demand a refund
fading sky
Keep in mind any kind of banner we would be forced to hold for rest of raids cds
rose bay
ur right, permanent aura then
fading sky
And all parses made when u grief by sending it for yaselfđ¤Ş
dense elbow
Not even that, it would be mage CDs, their timeings - their scuffed ass 8 sec or 11 into the pull ones
fading sky
Yup prob
dense elbow
do it wrong, and you killed your guild
static mountain
anyone here streaming fury slayer on ptr? dan and crit never touch it đ
radiant plank
anyone here streaming fury slayer on ptr? dan and crit never touch it đ
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2518334571?t=04h16m45s Just search better and you would see Dan plays it
dense elbow
anyone here streaming fury slayer on ptr? dan and crit never touch it đ
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2518334571
from 3 hour mark ish
rose bay
:D
static mountain
dayum ty bois
edgy widget
Yeah Slayer isn't really as dummy ez as Thane, but it's still doing quite well
thick fossil
In M+?
dense elbow
In M+, yep, as long you dont try to do anything "fancy"
edgy widget
idk what that means
rapid forge
how is the sim diff bewteen arms and fury at the moment? I woudl rather play thane then arms but didnt like it this season so i arms it
for patch obv. Any idea where we are heading?
edgy widget
Fury is a little head atm
but blizz being blizz, it's very likely there'll be more pre and post-release tuning
rose bay
sweet we can just play whatever fits the fight better/comfort pick during prog
rapid forge
i just dont like that the stats are so different beteween arms and fury. i mean not like super different but still
limber oar
Fury is a little head atm
For m+, raid, or both
rose bay
yeah grinding multiple sets can always suck
storm rune
2 rings and a neck are all you really need to control your stats
Plus everyone likes haste so there's middle ground everywhere
coarse nest
Ye this season you just swapped neck ring and added weapon and stats were good
rose bay
just can take time specially if u dont see the right rings
storm rune
You're not gonna be parsing rank 1s, but it's only a couple % diff in the end
rapid forge
yea did that this season but it still feels...bad. I would rather thane it, as i thin fury is bit more fun, and not have the feeling im doing -2 dmg in m+
i went to 3k with fury and gave up and went arms- feels bad
but im old and suck so it doesnt really matter what i play
dense elbow
Hey, most important thing is having fun with it. Ya not having fun with Fury because ya feel the dam is bad? No shame in going arms. A bit more fun gameplay might not make up for the hit to dopamine from actual good DPS performance.
Still, aint all doom and gloom, if ya want to just stick at it - don't worry, ya alway can. Especially when ya get older, and ya simply stop to care about anything but what is your fun
flat river
Hey, most important thing is having fun with it. Ya not having fun with Fury bec...
Yes, shame in arms
Go fury or prot
No in-between
dense elbow
True and real, shame in arms indeed
earnest canyon
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2518334571
from 3 hour mark ish
Do you know why Dan became a full time wow player?
dense elbow
I got a sneaking suspicion I will soon know the BadPitt version of it
earnest canyon
He got fired from Walmart for being "overly aggressive" with the shopping carts
dense elbow
I dont judge someones fetishes, but I rather not known that
marble pilot
I judge em
steady night
What crafted pieces are people planning for next season since cloak is out and so our boots at some point?
marble pilot
Ill start with a weapon. But then I dunno depends on vaults and stuff
dense elbow
I am going to craft a cape, followed by boots
brittle crow
when will blizz add gorillas as an allied race so i can play donkey kong bananza
winter shoal
What crafted pieces are people planning for next season since cloak is out and s...
Weapon first is probably going to be wise as it has been the past two tiers, along with wrist for the double down embellishment. Longer-term if we swap to double duskthread instead idk but we'll have more info by then about sims and gear options
They could nuke ascension embellishment from orbit today, we don't know
They probably won't, but they could
brittle crow
double down?
winter shoal
writhing armor banding or whatever
The one that doubles the effect of your other embellishment
steady night
Weapon first is _probably_ going to be wise as it has been the past two tiers, a...
Ty, that's what I figured but just wanted to see other's thoughts
junior gale
Gg boys awful news the rogue parry bug has been fixed prepare to be parried again
edgy widget
Ty, that's what I figured but just wanted to see other's thoughts
unless there are powerful and easy to acquire cantrips, weapon is p much always first for Fury
Arms is a bit of a harder choice, but weapon is still often a safe bet
fading sky
Archie do u have insight why they just let embellishments die
spare steppe
I wish ascension was better in m+
dire vigil
Probably gonna recraft my boots to 681 before patch to prep for getting the cape, then craft weapon to myth ilvl with my first 2 sparks of the season, which will coincide with the boots that augment the cloak anyway.
Keeping wrist as 2nd embellishment
Weâre not gonna replace the delve belt until we get a hero or myth track belt or something, so you probably wouldnât want to craft embellishment belt yet.
arctic portal
not sure if anyone clipped that already đ
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxDR_yxMBYxvkRfDVVPKeUkWZ2VJa3KV90?si=aBQATPVywjWD3Z1C
dense elbow
1st roll is expected, 3rd roll is diabolical
mossy fox
lmao
thick fossil
The crazy train has found it's final destination. Sad day folks. Ozzy has passed away.
mossy pelican
short zinc
Idk if this is the right place to ask, but is fury looking like the better spec for raid prog?
marble pilot
Wont know till balance stuff is finished. But I think itll be fine
feral ivy
ah crap i think i started looking for a CE guild to late...
took break and now lost đŚ
feral ivy
The crazy train has found it's final destination. Sad day folks. Ozzy has passed...
he's been dead for awhile now .. mind wise
earnest canyon
he's been dead for awhile now .. mind wise
You would have to be to live with that family
thick fossil
Lemmy and Ozzy!
plush zephyr
When one of the members of Metallica dies, Iâll be honest. Iâll probably take a couple days off work. Was beautiful ozzy got to perform one last time recently.
thick fossil
olive wraith
Idk if this is the right place to ask, but is fury looking like the better spec ...
Yes
thick fossil
When one of the members of Metallica dies, Iâll be honest. Iâll probably take a ...
Ozzy lived a long and wild life. I'd even reckon he probably did enough in his life that most would take 4-5 lifetimes to do.
"Don't cry because it's over, just smile because it was."
earnest canyon
When one of the members of Metallica dies, Iâll be honest. Iâll probably take a ...
You did that when Michael Jackson died, so work is probably expecting it again at some point.
vagrant imp
Best live show ive been too. Ozzfest 2000, houston raceway. had
Pantera and was Dimebags bday.
coarse nest
I hear from my old man all the time how badass ozzfest was
Missed me by a few years
Wish I could have been to one
graceful elk
Is fury cooked for the upcoming patch
summer quail
Is fury cooked for the upcoming patch
no. only arms is
graceful elk
I heard fury is shit though
inland flame
Nah Fury is aight if they had to touch one of them Arms is strugglin rn
thick fossil
inland flame
I think Col is still p good in dungos but the ST is really really bad
thick fossil
Col got nerfed and it's currently behind Fury Thane
Mind you, there will most likely be some more tuning coming. I wouldn't hold my breath though.
junior gale
As long as Phys comp exists warrior will exist
summer quail
Ah yes known warrior expert Izen
yes almost as good as marcelianonline
winter shoal
I know the name but I've never seen their vids
junior gale
that dudes nowhere near as bad as Izen
winter shoal
But also why watch yt vid of someone yapping when I can just watch people actually the play the game
Or better yet, play the game myself
summer quail
that dudes nowhere near as bad as Izen
ehh idk after that rework suggestion video
thick fossil
Ah yes known warrior expert Izen
It's funny as hell though. lol
junior gale
ehh idk after that rework suggestion video
I dont really care about the suggestions itself more so just getting people talking about warrior needing a rework.
the more people talk about this shit the better our chances
thick fossil
All these tier videos are trash. We can only guess where things will land.
junior gale
yup
summer quail
I dont really care about the suggestions itself more so just getting people talk...
tru, i did say the same thing after people memed on it. horrible suggestions but atleast it brings attention
bitter palm
its funny cause like
if u have no clue whats actually going on
you will think fury does 19x less damage than fdk
when it doesnt
xd
thick fossil
Nah, it's only 10x lol
undone flower
I dont really care about the suggestions itself more so just getting people talk...
It depends on what they mean with rework, like prot got a rework ? They just removed prot capstones and change lil bit spec tree, would you say it got reworked ?
limber oar
Nah, it's only 10x lol
Maybe for you
edgy widget
if u have no clue whats actually going on
aw shit, that's like 70% of the people here and 95% of the rest of the game!
edgy widget
It depends on what they mean with rework, like prot got a rework ? They just rem...
prot def got reworked; maybe not extensively but cetainly impactful changes
undone flower
Fury does need some work on the spec tree, warrior need some work on roar/spear all the things down in the class tree
edgy widget
removing spell block alone will fundamentally change how Prot is going to interact with a lot of content
undone flower
Yes just wanted to have more context, bc you can get ship of theseus thingy
thick fossil
That's not a change I'm sure is a good idea though.
edgy widget
It's polarizing for sure, but regardless of individual feelings, it's still a change
also nobody ever said "rework" necessarily meant "better"
thick fossil
Yeah... yeah
edgy widget
that said, I do think spell block was a very problematic crutch and its probably better not being around, though they could do more to shore up weaknesses in its absence
inland flame
Blizzard gotta break the chain eventually
undone flower
It was a good idea, is the result good or bad ? Will see the field test tbf
edgy widget
depends on how well they follow through with all the talk about changing damage profiles to accomodate it
undone flower
Ptr is not enough of a field test for prot rn
thick fossil
that said, I do think spell block was a very problematic crutch and its probably...
Yeah, 8% to not die from a magic tank buster is not a good option.
inland flame
It's funny Kira did a 17 Dawn and was taking no damage the entire dungeon and then got one shot by the circle on Anub through max health and max Ignore Pain.
Prolly an outlier tho he trolled and didn't use Reflect
undone flower
Yeah there is marksmanship rework (damage moving around) or frost dk rework (itâs not fdk anymore)
edgy widget
Yeah, 8% to not die from a magic tank buster is not a good option.
well that's not what its for either
undone flower
Just need to be clear, is there something cursed about fury ? (Yes) where you need a big change
edgy widget
it's honestly hard to tell sometimes if people know they're making a false equivalence or if they're really so dumb that they believe Spellbreaker is meant to be a direct replacement for Spell Block
edgy widget
Prolly an outlier tho he trolled and didn't use Reflect
see that's gonna be the problem, you just know there are gonna be some outliers that get missed - question is whether blizz will be quick to realize and fix or if we'll go all season with it
undone flower
The spell reflect talent, colossus tier, and def stance change is spell block removal  temporary help 
edgy widget
Just need to be clear, is there something cursed about fury ? (Yes) where you ne...
I mean cursed is a strong word, so honestly... not really
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There are a bunch of little things that could be improved though, chief among them is rebalancing the distribution of BT/RB/Execute use in the rotation. That said, Season 3 does already partially address this; it's not really my favorite solution, but it works for the time being.
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AM vs RA is another area I'd love to see more variety (ideally, I think RA should be the go-to ST talent and AM the MT one, but it doesn't always work out that cleanly).
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OF/Onslaught also needs improvement, but it's not just a matter of buffing them, it's also a matter of "what are you willing to give up in order to take them?". There's a lot of damage wrapped up in the T2 talents buffing RB/BT, and many of them feel too necessary to give up. I think we need less raw damage talents like Cruelty/Wrath & Fury, and more situational talents like VC, Ashen Jugg, Bloodborne, etc. This is difficult though, because it requires more build curation.
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Spear/Roar is a similar area that's not really a problem, but certainly lacks interest and excitement. I still think making Spear an off-GCD utility tether higher up in the tree and replacing it with Condemn would open up a lot more interesting possibilities
brittle crow
aw shit, that's like 70% of the people here and 95% of the rest of the game!
giving us too much credit
brittle crow
I mean *cursed* is a strong word, so honestly... not really
- There are a bunch...
what if cruelty/wrath & fury was made one talent instead u could call it cruelty & wrath & fury
fixes that whole side of the tree
edgy widget
I mean it depends on what takes its place
brittle crow
3% vers
edgy widget
if whatever replaced Wrath and Fury was just as universal, we're right back to square one
yeah no, that wouldn't do any good lol - you'd be replacing a talent that's taken all the time in every build with another talent that's taken all the time in every build
inland flame
But just think about it. It's like you have the amount of vers you have, +3%!
brittle crow
id go without 3% vers for another capstone ngl
edgy widget
but that highlights just how hard this is - although its easy to get excited about things that amp damage in a very simple and understandable way, you don't actually want to fill the tree with a lot of really universally powerful talents
you need a few of those, sure, but ideally, you want more stuff like Bloodborne that promotes synergies with specific builds, because that's how you get variety
brittle crow
i appreciate ur use of em dashes
brittle crow
you need a few of those, sure, but ideally, you want more stuff like Bloodborne ...
does fury even have enough kit for variety to mean anything
bleed build vs raw damage build ur still just doing the same fury rotation we've been doing since bfa
i want variety as in stuff like annihilator
dense elbow
Does pressing WW and Slam instead of RB, feel that different?
edgy widget
I mean you don't need to fundamentally change the entire rotation, but that's largely where Hero talents already kind in regardless
dense elbow
Fair enough, I didnt feel that - but it did promote more importance on doing ramps better to push the GCD around I guess
spare steppe
see that's gonna be the problem, you just know there are gonna be some outliers ...
How do dungeons like floodgate feel with the loss of spell block?
dense elbow
How do dungeons like floodgate feel with the loss of spell block?
It's alright, Spell Block is kinda missed on last boss - but on Momma the initial hit is ok to handle with just standard SW/SR rotation
o7
edgy widget
at the end of the day, I don't think which button you press really matters, so much as how you're pressing them.
- For example, Slayer being more RB focused and Thane being more BT focused; both heroes still use both buttons, but there is a little variation between them
undone flower
I mean *cursed* is a strong word, so honestly... not really
- There are a bunch...
The fury  curse  I have in mind : fury is haunted by raid tuning, I will need to think more on what creates that, but fury is the most problematic for ppl bc m+, and it is not foolish to admit it is raid tuning that keeps it impossible to just  turn the numbers ups 
edgy widget
Eh, I'm not entirely sure what you mean; if you mean Fury's viability is often dictated by how much AoE there is in raid... you're not entirely wrong, but they have actually done a lot to address that this past Season
But then Fury is also designed as a very AoE-centric spec, so it's not exactly surprising either
dense elbow
Are there any fights incomming that look like they will be problematic for that part?
undone flower
Yes but I really see it as bandaid of an issue which require an operation
edgy widget
na, tier looks pretty strong for Fury tbh
pine gust
But then Fury is also designed as a very AoE-centric spec, so it's not exactly s...
But you swing two two-handed hammers and only hit 5 enemies around you 
^ that is a joke obviously
edgy widget
also you want to give other specs room to shine; yes it's nice if one-trick Fury enthusiasts have strong ST options for fights that lack adds, but if Fury is dominating Arms in the AoE game, it probably shouldn't also universally dominate it in ST
inland flame
Arms ST 
thick fossil
it's honestly hard to tell sometimes if people know they're making a false equiv...
It's mostly the presentation Blizzard put into it. They took away one thing and put this new talent in it's place. The defensives baked into the base toolkit is not really well explained by them.
edgy widget
at the same time, that doesn't mean one should be 20% behind the other either - as with most things, it's very nuanced and there are acceptable degrees in either direction
thick fossil
Arms on the PTR is certainly in an unacceptable state.
edgy widget
It's mostly the presentation Blizzard put into it. They took away one thing and ...
I know, but people still act really stupid about it, when any reasonable person who spends more than 5 seconds thinking about it should instantly know better
dense elbow
On the other hand, one cant deny losing Spellblock is a real feels bad. Cause it was strong.
thick fossil
I just prefer my on demand defensives over passive and half assed saves.
dense elbow
It being gone, better for the gameplay overall? We shall see
Prot gets some time to cook, I am sure things will be addressed during the season as always. Tanks usually get that extra helping touch
undone flower
Tbf Blizzard mentioned reason is a good reason to remove spellblock
thick fossil
The killing of add ons still has me worried. I know that's Midnight, but man, a life without Plater.
brittle crow
But then Fury is also designed as a very AoE-centric spec, so it's not exactly s...
isn't being an aoe centric spec that always gets beaten by the wizards in aoe a bad thing
edgy widget
I mean, idk about always, but we were talking about raid not M+
brittle crow
doesn't boomie push our shit in on stix?
dense elbow
Stix is the fight that spawns adds in narnia, no?
edgy widget
and M+ issues reach far wider, but have also been talked to death over and over again, and I'm not looking to repeat them right now
thick fossil
We haven't been strong in Raid AoE since heroic week S1.
edgy widget
doesn't boomie push our shit in on stix?
if you can get the adds into melee, not really
undone flower
I wouldnât use fights where fury would need to be able to do spread AoE to say something
edgy widget
but boomkins definitely have an easier time hitting them first and holding onto them
a lot of boomkins purposefully stand in africa so they drag adds out there too, allowing them to near-exclusively hit them
but if your adds can get gathered into melee quickly, Thane actually pumps hard on them
dense elbow
We haven't been strong in Raid AoE since heroic week S1.
In raid? We were strong that whole season, as far as I understood it. Even after the nerfs. Raid was never the issue, only M+. Raid only looked worse for us on logs, as warcraftlogs removed adds from counting towards that jazz.
edgy widget
We haven't been strong in Raid AoE since heroic week S1.
yeah this is fundamentally untrue
The nerfs weren't even that bad lol, it was like -10% OF and BS
undone flower
Fury is kinda really good in AoE whole TWW in raid
edgy widget
the real part that hurt was WCL just deciding so many instances of add damage shouldn't be counted anymore
dense elbow
Yeah, but I get the idea, when you see warriors drop a ton of DPS, as the adds aint counted on logs reviews anymore
Makes sense ppl go "oh boii, we lost a lot of dam!", if ya didnt notice warcraftlogs doing its own thing
undone flower
But the adds still exists, Blizz shouldnât do tuning bc wcl removed part of their fights
dense elbow
But, now you know Osa, it wasnt doom and gloom. Only warcraflogs being angry warrior was too strong on their nice lists
edgy widget
Also strong in AoE doesn't necessarily mean strongest; there are 38(?) specs in the game now and double that if we count heroes, you can't expect everyone to be best in a particular area - there simply aren't enough niches for that
pine gust
But the adds still exists, Blizz shouldnât do tuning bc wcl removed part of thei...
Well fury didnt do crazy amounts of boss damage neither
thick fossil
That's one way to look at it, lol.
undone flower
Well fury didnt do crazy amounts of boss damage neither
Yes ST was awful in S1, but AoE saying it was not good is a lie, even after all the nerfs
pine gust
Yes ST was awful in S1, but AoE saying it was not good is a lie, even after all ...
Oh yeah, fights still favoured our cooldowns very much
edgy widget
a game can have strong balance or a lot of variety, but it can't really have both; inevitably the more options you add, the more spread there is going to be between them
dense elbow
Well fury didnt do crazy amounts of boss damage neither
Hard to do good boss dam, when you kill adds with your CDs
undone flower
Oh yeah, fights still favoured our cooldowns very much
And in undermine we are good on AoE fights and we have nice ST (sprocket is weird data bc it is heavy anti casters)
edgy widget
Fury's ST wasn't terrible in S2 either though, nowhere near as bad as it normally is for how strong of AoE it gets
and that was a focal point of my feedback all through Season 1 - nerfing AoE dominance is fine, but bring up ST to compensate
pine gust
And in undermine we are good on AoE fights and we have nice ST (sprocket is weir...
Undermine raid has very good balance apart from two top outliners
edgy widget
IMO undermine was actually a pretty great raid tier
there were a few hiccups, particularly very early prog tuning, but Blizz addressed most of them in a fairly reasonable timeframe
undone flower
Thatâs why I read it as a possible curse/ ass stuck between 2 chairs, some ppl say meatcleave to 8 targets, how it is not broken in raid
edgy widget
I still think Bandit and Mugz are a bit of a miss (way too time-specific), but overall pretty smooth, interesting, and varied raid tier
pine gust
Thatâs why I read it as a possible curse/ ass stuck between 2 chairs, some ppl s...
Is it really that often that boss has more than 4 adds at the same time?
Besides not like fury was top dps on 5 target cleave either
Maybe that is what triggers people
it has a niche that is not even good at
sterile dagger
it has a niche that is not even good at
^
dense elbow
Well, not being the best, doesnt mean we aint good at it
pine gust
good -> best*
undone flower
Is it really that often that boss has more than 4 adds at the same time?
You say 5, but just 6 targets, you hitting 20% more shit is a big deal already
dense elbow
I rather they just buff OF to make up the AoE gap we got on mass AoE
That way it got a purpose and get to smack
undone flower
And no one will be make the best at their 5 t niche
dense elbow
If we keep buffing our sustained DPS, as we doing, then OF as a tool got no point
it is just a slightly stronger WW at a certain point
pine gust
You say 5, but just 6 targets, you hitting 20% more shit is a big deal already
Some classes hit 20 targets thats 400% more shit
undone flower
Bc it makes the class broken, if at 5 target you do 2x of someone else
undone flower
Some classes hit 20 targets thats 400% more shit
Yes and they are tuned bc they do that
They donât do fury damage at 5 to all 20 targets
dense elbow
Then the question is, does hitting all those 20 targets really matter, or is it simply pad? Sure, mobs gotta die, but they gotta die either way. If they die to a guy doing 40mill DPS, or or by two guys doing 20m DPS - doesnt really matter. What matters is the prio target mobs.
And if there aint prio target mobs, then you will pull those 20 trash mobs ontop of a prio mob.
Another dicussion is the value of funnel potential
Even in priory, lets take the alter pull, what matters is not doing 30m AoE, but getting Shymane and Priesto-chan down. The AoE pad doesnt matter beyond the fact that they got to die one time or another - and if you can use them to funnel DPS into em
thick fossil
Our ST is honestly fine in S2.
Could it be better, sure, but that boils down to execute and sudden death being dog puke.
undone flower
And now, you canât NOT talk about m+ comps, they include shitters hitters and enough prio to TIME the key
Not do the most overall
dense elbow
Yeah, S2 SD has felt pretty lackluster, this is a fair take
pine gust
Yes and they are tuned bc they do that
Isnt this basically 8 target meat cleaver? Its just 5% weaker than current meat cleaver
I'd take 5% nerf for +3 targets on cleaver any day đ
frank dawn
It got nerfed on ptr and we got buffed. So the difference between those is kinda big now
dense elbow
MM hunter meanwhile atm:
frank dawn
Yeah MM hunter kinda silly lol
thick fossil
75% on 5-8
undone flower
Isnt this basically 8 target meat cleaver? Its just 5% weaker than current meat ...
Yes outlaw struggle with target caps too, and : you donât need hard caps to struggle bc target cap, windwalker is soft capped and have the same issue as us
thick fossil
Though I think the talent that bumps it to 8 lowers it from 75%
frank dawn
WW struggles because they have two abilities that are basically bladestorm but they essentially do split damage
frank dawn
Their big cooldown moment just has dog shit aoe scaling lol
And they are the only class with abilities still like that I think
dense elbow
My wishlist for S3:
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(4) for slayer refocused to execute
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A bump on AoE DPS for Slayer
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An OF buff to have it not only keep up with rotationals being buffed, but having a chunky lead
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Some headpats and kisses for Thane, so the rest of you leave me alone as I play Slayer and you guys do clappaclappa
This coming season is overall looking so far to likely be a good one
pine gust
My wishlist for S3:
- (4) for slayer refocused to execute
- A bump on AoE DPS fo...
I kinda wish that execute was execute button even when not talented into execute talents, like I have this big ass weakaura shining when in exe range just to ignore it
as thane obv
undone flower
Yeah I have no big wish for the next season, I need to see for myself now to really judge
I canât ptr bc ping
dense elbow
Just do some PTR, doom as you play with ppl doing 12-15m overall, as you do 7-10m. Take a break, a deep breath, remember that tuning aint done. Repeat.
dense elbow
vivid moat
So how SD procs are going to be handled next tier? just send it whenever it procs, or WA usage still for conditions
wraith wharf
dense elbow
I presume the WA will be optimal, but ya can likely just send exe on CD and it will be fine
Sending exe on CD doesnt seem to have any major drawback while I spin in keys at least.
... inbefore someone come and say "you will lose up to (possibly) 1% theoretical DPS!" and I am scolded for my lax take of: Just send it
thick fossil
Right now, no real change. It'll still be WA based.
Unless they un-nerf the tier set or buff execute to where it's worth the global.
vivid moat
I see, it ll be funny with amount of sd procs next tier though
undone flower
Just do some PTR, doom as you play with ppl doing 12-15m overall, as you do 7-10...
Im hype with next season start, where Iâll be above some dps as prot no matter if prot is good or bad, itâs the same with now when I do keys as fury, I know we suck, but im first
Bc I only vault fill
sour frigate
dense elbow
This is ok, a bit sad, but ok. I expected more from my happy happy.
thick fossil
I will be doing Prot jail for the first two weeks.
undone flower
(Yes I do lil bit of pushing during honey moon period)
dense elbow
thick fossil
Running nonstop dungeons to gear up guildies.
undone flower
I stopped at 14-15s this season after a month or two
thick fossil
I got 15 resil and stopped. I help a Streamer on Saturdays, and guildies every now and than.
hot shore
So how SD procs are going to be handled next tier? just send it whenever it proc...
Was just testing on ptr dummy and its way more reliable to keep stacks up. WA should be still needed, but its way more relaxed
undone flower
Yeah Iâm more the type to push bc a guildy or friend asked me
99% of the time bc I can play prot
I hate m+ solo queue as I hate LoL solo queue
But itâs less painful than pug raids
The pinnacle of time waste
earnest canyon
Yeah Iâm more the type to push bc a guildy or friend asked me
You are EU right?
undone flower
MM for mythic
earnest canyon
Lol
undone flower
(It is for mythic mode, heroic mode or normal mode, if you want an explanation)
earnest canyon
Mdr
undone flower
Roggenvollkornbrot
winter shoal
MM for mythic
This seems to be almost exclusively a french thing
undone flower
I know, itâs not even a French acronym
My big guess itâs something that used to be a term / got lost, or maybe just 1 guyed
earnest canyon
Tell him what mdr means
modest condor
it's just short for mythic mode
modest condor
the weird one to me is nhc
undone flower
it's just short for mythic mode
Yes but mythic mode is not French, thatâs why it is weird
modest condor
which is short for non-heroic, but just means normal
undone flower
I never heard nhc
modest condor
why not just type n
fickle cedar
Yes but mythic mode is not French, thatâs why it is weird
mitique mode
dense elbow
You know, now it makes sense why I over the years have joined HC groups, that turned to be normal groups
earnest canyon
why not just type n
What if they are talking about lfr
undone flower
mitique mode
Mode Mythique, adjectives are behind the name in French
summer quail
the weird one to me is nhc
i kinda read that as both things. as in like normalheroic, so someone would talk about it as non mythic non lfr
but idk weird anyway
undone flower
Sometime in front yes but mostly behind
modest condor
i kinda read that as both things. as in like normalheroic, so someone would talk...
no it very explicitly means normal
fickle cedar
Mode Mythique, adjectives are behind the name in French
yeah im just goofing around, played on archimonde and hyjal for a while
summer quail
no it very explicitly means normal
lmao that's hilarious
earnest canyon
I like the fact magic wand in Harry Potter is called Baguette Magique
modest condor
that's just the french word for magic wand
undone flower
I donât even know what is the real french name of LFR, we say lfr
earnest canyon
that's just the french word for magic wand
I know, and I like it
iron portal
Yea you do
earnest canyon
wintry smelt
storm birch
thick fossil
That's a chonky feline.
tepid cedar
just watched crits video. this is so nice to see
not being at a low 5 way behind everyone is sooo niceee
late cradle
Well do you know that dk? Because critcake is one of the BEST warriors
thick fossil
Sad (the russian DK) died a lot.
tepid cedar
regardless thats some huge improvements from what we currently see
thick fossil
Or was that yesterday's stream.
late cradle
How that dk performs? Is ijust a regular dk almost doing the same dps than a top war?
I think we could use some buffs
tepid cedar
if hew was a good dk hed be with hunter or probably 10.5/11m
but thats legit a cap issue now
hopoefuly we see an aura buff next along with arms
median falcon
thats with mystic touch and druid buff mmk
undone flower
Ofc you count with buffs
mossy fox
yeah fury is in a much better spot than s2 rn
undone flower
A comp with a fury will almost always have these buffs
mossy fox
obviously we cant beat meta but it's nice to not be useless
tepid cedar
^^^^^^^^^^
dense elbow
I will just say: it ain't as bad as some say, it ain't so good as others push
We just look better than what is on live, but this isn't the second coming
summer quail
yeah fury is in a much better spot than s2 rn
the comment section in your video is hilarious. people just CANNOT be happy fury is decent
mossy fox
yeah im not gonna bother arguing
summer quail
smart
dense elbow
Crit, doomer video for clicks when?
undone flower
Yeah ppl want to be meta and crush everyone else, they bought into  each will have their turn 
flat river
@mossy fox you going to play fury with the new thane tier set buff? or going to stick to arms? or going to swap between them
earnest canyon
yeah fury is in a much better spot than s2 rn
What's st boss damage like of fury in m+ vs dk and mm?
mossy fox
<@235809563490779136> you going to play fury with the new thane tier set buff? o...
i'm not sure if you're winding my up here lmao
flat river
i'm not sure if you're winding my up here lmao
not even joking lol
mossy fox
fury seems better for now
tepid cedar
this is the best comment btw
flat river
the new thane looks and plays very good
mossy fox
What's st boss damage like of fury in m+ vs dk and mm?
better than mm worse than dk i think
earnest canyon
OK ty
tepid cedar
fros tis jsut super overtuned atrm
mossy fox
pretty good is an accurate description of fury m+ on the ptr imo
saying mid or bad at this point is straight up sandbagging
mossy fox
đ
undone flower
The scaling was real at the end
earnest canyon
fros tis jsut super overtuned atrm
I thought both frost and mm took heavy nerfs and they just look good on m+ meters due to the amount of trash mobs?
earnest canyon
Oh
late cradle
How is st in m+ in fury VS arms? I guess in pulls is just a target count thing right?
tepid cedar
oh so frost did get a small nerf?
median falcon
I know what would fix everything, nerf Vengeance
mossy fox
arms ST honestly is kinda garbo
odd cipher
oh so frost did get a small nerf?
-12% aura
mossy fox
arms is garbo in general rn with this tuning
tepid cedar
arms needs like 10% aura and fury needs 6-8
thick fossil
Fury is looking better for M+ so far on the PTR, but there are still a lot of things that can happen. I'm worried there will be nerfs or something that just leaves Warrior behind again.
late cradle
Ok thx critcake
mossy fox
well they can still nerf thane set because of prot
hardy shuttle
frozen berry
I thought colossus was the prot hero tree doing really good still after the nerf not Mt Thane?
undone flower
It was before they changed the set
mossy fox
thane has been blasting for prot after the set buff yeah
odd cipher
i would suspect that we might start season like that and get untouched for whole season just as blizzard love to ignore/neglect some classes or specs, while others will get buffed
median falcon
how are all three mage specs doing?
thick fossil
Thane also has more survivability.
undone flower
And thane prot has execute stronk
mossy fox
yes we might start good and end bad because others get buffed while we are forgotten again
frozen berry
I tohught the self healing was alot stronger cause of bleeds as colossus over Mt Thane?
mossy fox
how are all three mage specs doing?
think ive seen them all? they seem good
fire seemed strongest from the mages i played with anyway
thick fossil
yes we might start good and end bad because others get buffed while we are forgo...
That seems to be the usual way Blizzard runs it.
mossy fox
gmgio57
flat river
happy valentines day
?
undone flower
I tohught the self healing was alot stronger cause of bleeds as colossus over Mt...
They reduced fueld by violence, and self-healing is not what prot do, even tho itâs nice
flat river
Can't they just make tier set tuning different for each spec
undone flower
If you survive without the self healing = you donât need it
thick fossil
Few months too late, but ok?
undone flower
Yeah with timings, I would not bet on huge change until heroic raid or post RWF
thick fossil
We'll see an aura buff or nerf before it goes live.
smoky vale
It's time to unequip pants and honk shoo
a mimir
mossy fox
@young swan
smoky vale
@young swan
mossy fox
he made the list not me
remote bobcat
mossy fox
i just used it because someone linked it to me
flat river
<@137363315817971712>
Critcake i got CE for 2 seasons straight i deserve a raise from "please stop playing world of warcraft"
XD
gleaming siren
Explode
smoky vale
evaporate
gleaming siren
@smoky vale
remote bobcat
Critcake i got CE for 2 seasons straight i deserve a raise from "please stop pla...
s1 ce lol
mossy fox
Critcake i got CE for 2 seasons straight i deserve a raise from "please stop pla...
i'll put you in the "blacksmith" tier
smoky vale
@gleaming siren cease
flat river
i'll put you in the "blacksmith" tier
undone flower
He is more deceptive without 57
fluid pollen
Does frost dk do any physical damage?
undone flower
And melees (really huge dps factor)
summer quail
and ig aas
can't come in here with your dk abbreviations
summer quail
lmao
summer quail
what's your dk score? and what's your warrior score?
smoky vale
summer quail
not a dk player btw
undone flower
Change your name color to red RIGHT NOW
flat river
Gio the warrior betrayer
smoky vale
i think i have like 18 days played this season on my dk
flat river
You're only allowed to make alts as warriors or alts to farm old raids
shadow kernel
I'm allowed to have Alts of anything as long as Warr is highest right?
undone flower
And there is 1 class not allowed
undone flower
mage
shadow kernel
hmmmmm im safe then
undone flower
Too blue
silk wharf
Rank 1 frostbolt ptsd
shadow kernel
i had to play Mage in Uldir raid team only lasted 2 months before i torpedo'd it cause fuck mages
young swan
<@137363315817971712>
will at end of xpac @smoky vale
smoky vale
will at end of xpac <@335579026259312641>
giofiveseven will sruely make the list
junior gale
becareful with what kind of list
junior gale
hop in loser
junior gale
its pretty fun yeah TB sound effect carries it hard
summer quail
thane always fun. the superior hero spec
flat river
thane always fun. the superior hero spec
Yes but with tier
If they don't make tier baseline next xpac ill be mad
flat river
harsh stump
hey, how detrimental would it be to play single minded fury in a group that's only doing heroic raid? wanna use thunderfury next tier as thane
echo rapids
IMO blizzard is bored with unmagical warriors and leaning into out thunder lord flavor angle is not a bad way forward
dense elbow
Honestly, not at all. Maybe week1 it can "arguably" be a handicap. But beyond that, you will overgear HC content by a mile and a half eitehr way
Just play SMF Thane, then be the proud #1 SMF Thane Warrior, possible world
harsh stump
cracking, cheers đ
past lance
Hmm so mountain thane is pulling through for season 3?
Based off wowhead it looks like the other ones are going to be very viable
dense elbow
The others?
vernal laurel
So ready for Lust, Rallying cry buff, Uncapped Meat Cleaver and buffed/reworked capstones this tuning pass 
dense elbow
I will slap you
vernal laurel
I will slap you
dense elbow
vernal laurel
I even have it framed
past lance
The others?
I think was colossus and slayer or something
vernal laurel
I think was colossus and slayer or something
Both Colussus and Slayer are worse off than Mountain Thane atm
past lance
Doesnât slayer have a higher dps average though
vernal laurel
Doesnât slayer have a higher dps average though
Not at all, its pretty far behind Mountain Thane
Has been since around the first parts of S1
past lance
Oh
dense elbow
Ah, got ya. Depending on your definition and goals, they all look to be viable. People do be dooming a bit about arms, but that seems to be more a classic #arms being madge cause #fury is doing a bit better. Meanwhile #protection is just lurking in the waters, getting DPS warrior nerfed at random times.
past lance
I thought mountain thane was basically only for mythic + dps. And slayer was for single target raid
vernal laurel
I thought mountain thane was basically only for mythic + dps. And slayer was for...
Oh yeah I am just talking about M+
Dont really think about raid
sinful spoke
wtf lol
dense elbow
My brain tells me if you pick that up by jumping into it, you can fly for a while
turbid bay
Surely ptr gets updated today
earnest canyon
Surely ptr gets updated today
All devs are off work and playing DK Bananza
turbid bay
Ahh tru understandable based devs
brittle crow
bananzaaaaaaaa
karmic crow
is there any truth to UF instead of 2x deft?
charred estuary
Hard to believe for thane
It was already hard to fit it in rotational when thunder blast wasn't turbo dam
plush zephyr
@storm birch youâve shown up on my algorithm