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The best shot at fixing fury queue time is to kill key holders 
Still a bit early. Col seems to still have the large pull edge, thane has better boss dmg
Lies, it is great
It's fun
Play DMC 5 mash buttons and have fun
OF is such a fun button
What is OF even on the overall on the PTR atm, like 3-4%?
The number must be so small
I might play some street fighter because Sagat is being put in, my client was showing me, and muay thai guy is best guy
Yeah it's legit irrelevant man, OF is dead lol
Tekken 8
Nah, OF lives as long as someone picks it
Single player games are just so good
But the capstone of OF is a bait on the ptr imo
Gotta find something fun
I haven't played a non online competitive game in like 15 years and I'm not exaggerating
Just finished cod mw3 2011 that game is so good
Rip soap
I feel you I got literally 28k hours in Dota 2. And then I went back to single players and it's such a joy
Ya lol. Letās waste a talent on .4% damage overall
I debate single player games when I see their announcements etc but then I never try
The QoL was a banger
You donāt want the QoL as thane tho
I donāt mind our niche being 5 target nuke and some damage afterward. With the 10% buff to our cleave off main target and thunder blast being our main dmg (itās a āreduced beyond 5ā ability) weāre closer and closer to executing our niche of 5 target nuke very well and also having great boss dmg . Not sure why we need to be able to hit 100 targets for 30m to feel good.
Since you blast all the time
(Exaggerating)
Even on the opener, you get your ww stacks with avatar 2 TBs
It has no room to play bs
Well, unmodified BS is just a DPS loss
Where would you even fit an of on Thane
If ya aint slayer, it aint worth the global
It's such a bloat
On cd
Would be kinda cool if ravager hit a bit harder too as like the actual ability dmg rather than just a way to farm more BT for TB procs
Ravager fucks due to unhinged
We love intercourse havin abilities
Indeed
Man, the Thane tierset is so good atm. I am so happy for ya lads
Talking about ravager, prot has random ravager procs as a choice node, I felt like it give more ravager than usually
It's a chain of breeding
Nah but ravager right now is in a good spot cus it feeds so well on the tb loop
A along as they do not touch unhinged
Unhinged has to be the best thing given to warrior since spear of bastion with mikanikos modifiers
We're most likely into just numbers changes so we good, it'll be 5% here and 2% there buffs/nerfs across everything now
Yah cus that spear version was insane
Hi !, i didn't see a build on ptr but with the new thane 4 set, it's not better to play with the talent when reck give a charge of thunder blast ? instead of 100% lightning proc when we thunder blast ?
for try to max the proc of ionizing strike ?
the proc itself gives the TB charge, what is the interaction?
Perhaps I missunderstood its functionality
Do you mean on the thane tree gathering clouds ?
That increases lighting strikes proc by 30%?
no
If you mean that it's not tied to the tier set
Snap induction
Flashing strikes vs snap induction?
Oh can someone test if this works with unbridled ferocity ?
I am in bed ATM can't test
I think lightning strikes do more damage overall than a tb proc every 45 seconds
a sec i try it
Lightning Strikes give you more Burst of Power procs which are relevant for fishing for Blasts, and a free Lightning Strike every Blast is doing a lot of extra work
We can already rng cast tb on cooldown
If it works with ub maybe it could have some value
But that would help our dry periods
But i doubt it does
i think no to
Then it's not worth it
wait i need a proc š
1 charge every 40 sec Vs a more consistent proc
6% is so low š
True
i got a proc and a charge of thunder blast
but i don't know if i got it with BT or with a proc haha
Don't use BT then
Spam only raging blow and rampage
That way you eliminate the chance of BT proc
ok
proc from UF don't give thunder blast
so snap induction don't have a real value :x
sad
So is slayer okay now with the latest buffs?
Depends on what you mean by okay. You're still Thane in dungos, just because it's better. But Slayer damage in raid is fine.
But mt better in raid as well?
maybe on some fights
but slayer is better st and 2target
really its better 2T I thought thane was better for 2T?
slayers st just being that much better + 130% ww buff pushes it over the edge
Thane is good on sustain aoe fights like stix
On burst add fight slayer is still better
depends what u consider a burst aoe fight
on something like soulbinder thane will be better
is execute like ever used as MT?
nah
I see must still be close tho right last I remember thane was pretty comfortably ahead in 2T back in S1
Nop
I don't know if there's anything like Ovi in Manaforge Omega. Araz its like a steady trickle right? And Shalhadaar has his platforms. Idk haven't tested the raid myself.
Do you guys sometimes get a random cut on your arm or something that you have no idea how it got there? Itās so annoying
Idk I just feel like even though the BT every other time is does damage to help farm procs is cool itād be sick if it felt like the spinning axe on the ground did some solid damage too. But I get what yall are saying. I think it usually does between 3-5% of my dmg depending on the dungeon so I guess thatās not horrible
On raid ? Both slayer and Thane were played on silken court with similar results all other fights was slayer
yeah there isnt an ovinax next tier
You talk about silken court
As long you get where I am coming from, I am content 
Silken court has a pretty even split between Thane and slayer though
It wasn't a clear cut winner
later
early in the tier it was mostly thane
And ppl realized thane was better (I just simmed 2 target to know I was gonna play thane)
Iām afraid I might be cooked; anyone?
warrior mage treatment when
Yea I feel you
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is BT used only when 85%+ chance to cause bleed?
Nerf tier then buff class?
Nah I like our tuning this last week
thunder blast isnt aoe capped?
no we are developer capped
5 I think. I thought 8 yesterday too not sure why
p-pls respond
But yea itās 5 soft
dw bladestorm buff
Mostly yes but if you got nothing to press you press it
Is this for live?
Yes I assume so
then I dont understand why I've read that mt is harder than slayer?
Hard to tell these days
maybe in last titan we can be good
Yes it is 5 soft idk why I thought 8
#copium
its just rb/ramp/tc?
Harder in what way
We good next season if things stay imo
retail or ptr and thane or slayer
thing is it wont be like thas
on live
How do you know
thane retail
3/4?
tingle in my brain says so
then yeah just ramp/rb/tblast and press bt when u can crit
wait st or aoe
so mt is just slayer without execute?
watch mage catch some buffs and warr some nerfs
mountain thuds
i wanna try healing again ngl
as per usual
Lmao that's one way to look at it
it was fun being in a 5 stack freaking out
i dont think i want you to
And without bladestorm, and with thunderclap
where are you gonna find another victim to heal on ptr bud
healing is insanely unfun these days
For me thunderclap/blast is more satisfying to press over ww
yes or no i was better than the pugs we had
definitely
I like the sound cue more
I forgot thunderblast is stormstrike damage, gonna leech on that dh raid buff
On raid you probably won't be thundering too often though
Maybe 2 fights by the looks of it
Ionizing and lightning strikes are nature dmg so ur alrdy benefiting a fair bit from DH
2 fights is 1/4 of the raid
Well one of them is optional too 

Storm strike is also physical
idk why they are calling it optional its so weird
Yep
what is stormstrike exactly?
Because you can fully avoid it and proceed to the next one while in the past the door wouldn't open if you didn't do all of them
explain to a mountain thud like me
Multi school damage type
Why are warriors doing nature damage? I never approved that.
So for example if you account for race to world first we may see the DH fight fully skipped
Fun fact, the spell storm strike of shaman donāt do storm strike damage
Who asked you to approve
Lmao you took my job, I always say this
Thunder/lightning is nature damage in wow
yeah that definition is fine but thats still just not optional in any capacity theres no reason why you wouldnt do that boss
I let you the flamestrike one
if its tuned easy you will do it before final boss prog if its the hardest boss in the raid its just the new last boss
For race purposes at least there is.
For us plebs it's another story
thats up to the race to decide
I always thought of it as Warriors are igniting the ground through sheer force, bursting mana outwards
Even if it is technically nature damage we aren't ourselves using magic
Thunder/lightning has been a part of Warcraft warrior fantasy since at least WC3
I believe Stormsrrike is like that for tuning purposes, and there are a lot of physical amps on the trees which wouldnāt be as good if it wasnāt entirely physical
You win this round kid. Approved.
I meant thunder, electricity is nature damage, bosses and trashs do nature damage to you when they do ā”ļø
To unlock the effects from the belt the delve doesn't have to be overcharged? but it must be bountiful?
There is no separated lightning damage type
Yeah I am just saying I don't think warriors have "nature magic" but functions as such indirectly
because they are really stronk and slap the ground hard bursting mana
We shouldnāt do thunder spells ?
Warriors shouldn't be like dat
I have already approved warriors doing nature damage. This discussion is over guys.
Warrior's should be ooga booga so strong hit hard and everything is an extension of that
Why does a thunder clap apply Rend? Itās not a something blunt or a slice
your a warrior with nature magic or you hit thing really hard it creates lightning
You say that but since wc3 days we had nature skills. Look at "storm bolt" and "thunder clap"
Yeah guys. Pack it up
pick your destiny
Yeah idc about why I can have cool looking animations tbf
Hit the ground so hard the ground explodes shards that cut enemies
makes them bleed

Youāre onto something
Storm bolt is an enchanted weapon we throw
same as other armor
It was always called thunder clap not splinter clap
yeah warrior animations are held back so hard because of this we cant do magical things bullshit ppl hated the warbreaker ghost weapon shit cuz muh magic
but we can use thunder clap while nekid
Itās cause it was ugly
Yeah and we also shout so loud it invigorates our allies health
Are we really making sense of it
we given them adrenaline
And one time it was bc it was buggy / pc lags
Then might as well give them cocaine it works better
Why is execute so shitty nowandays? even with the dedicated execute hero build it still feels lackluster. I never approved that.
It does make sense irl though, you yell battle cry and get people hyped up around you
a lot of the complaints I saw were from magic complainers
Hyped is not healed
Play slayer
Yeah but itās a magical world so it heals
The whole hero talent is built on execute
You used the word magical so declined already
its not a heal tho
It's supposed to be it still feels ass
its temp hp
Battle shout also gives our allies energy and confidence to hit harder, which is why it only effects physical damage since my lore is magic users require concentration and a magical understanding so it doesn't help them
think of it like an adrenaline spike
the method guide doesnt even include the execute talents for slayer build
for the m+ build at least
Attack power is not just physical damage
Execute damage profile donāt matter in m+
Okay make enraged regen make sense then? "Man so angry he returned to prime condition"
And rarely matter in raid
Slayer is actually an rb focus
Also keep in mind, if you go nekid as warrior you can't use storm bolt, implying it is a property of your weapons
Surprise
Yes you do ? Mjolnir ?
Adrenaline rush
What is ravager
body repairs itself well
spinny thrown axe
Magic
The best regen in wow is the floor. You crack it with thunder clap and it's fully healed 3 sec later.
That defies laws of physics
I didnāt play legion so I fully trust Blizz on magic warrior things
Ravager is magic
Centripetal force
Charging in midair is fart force ?
we throw it so fast and spinny that it lasts 9 seconds
Youād lose all your kinetic energy after hitting 1 mob
I think thunder blast is the most magical thing we have, we throw lightning down ffs lol
it's cleaving through them
Then why does it do no damage
and is really fast
it does do damage
Checkmate
No the BTs it magically casts does damage
It's just not hitting them in half
It does less damage than a plain old slap with like weapons
Ok but why does bloodthirst heal us on hit ?
Guys I just went back outside and tried I threw a stick at my neighbor and instead of spinning in place for 5s dealing damage to them and generating me some rage they just called the cops on me again
Are we vampires too now ?
It's cleaving near the outer part of them, doing semi-big cuts
You also canāt leap like warriors ingame can, I tried
It literally travels through targets
You can for sure leap like in game. Just once down a cliff
I think leap is one of the best thing warrior have, donāt you dare
Blame blizzard visuals
Tbf that is pretty heroic
Suicidal Leap
Nah itās just magic
How much strength must my orc have to swim so comfortably in full plate armour without sinking ?
Thereās little floaties on the inside
Guys... are dragons real??????
My gnome swims in floodgate swamp
Also when we use heroic throw.. do we have a back up arsenal of weapons to throw ?
warriors are definitely stronger and propelled by some magical force they have, you canāt just clap your feet on the ground and cause lightning strikes
The way ravager works is you throw an axe with such Centripetal force that it spins for 9 seconds, and i like to think it follows ppl around because there is string or something attached from the axe to the enemies you throw at them, and because of this attachment it can follow the enemies but also won't cleave them right in half. It'll do decent cutting damage
You have good aim in lore
Or. Magic
Warriors only magic is in their enchanted armor/weapons, which you can say it's possibly true that they have an enchanted axe
Ok but the most magic of all.. how do we just reflect spells ?
Warrior hasnāt been non magical pure physical in a long time
Since Odyn is our king, I fully accept any magic in our kit
Shield
Please attach a string to a beyblade and see how that works
I am not supernaturally strong
I am certain I have almost never equipped a shield on fury
Also paladin has shield
Itās wonāt work because thatās not how physics works
Why don't they spell reflect
Itās okay. Ravager is magic just accept
You have some shield somewhere your back that you donāt see that you use only for reflects lol
You never specced in fury as prot ?
Why would you ever loot spec fury
Physics obviously is different in world of warcraft it's a fantasy world, but that doesn't mean supernaturally strong physical stats equates to in game magic
it's "magic" in the sense of it's something beyond what can occur irl
Nah itās magic because thatās not how things work
If you donāt want shield, tank trinkets, and not lot of 2 hands in the loot pool, as prot
Also what happens to my character so suddenly that I cannot out of the blue hold 2 weapons I was just holding the moment I swap to arms ?
can steal both one handers and two handers from pugs
Bro youāre going too hard on this, his point makes sense
It doesnāt matter anyway
Does my left hand get weak suddenly
Do I have a semi stroke when arms spaced ?
Specced
I wonder whatās the least magical class or spec
Rogue I think
A spinning axe hitting a mob without losing speed isnāt magic?
Yall on crack
Rogue uses shadow magic or sumth
Iām not gonna go into it
He did already
Is it magic though ?
yeah
Stealth is a real concept
not stealth
Poisoned weapons are a real concept
Yeah but stealth in WoW is literally shadow magic lol
Even without hitting mobs it would slow down
Gun between the eyes is a real concept
As we saw in that cinematic with undead rogues
Guys I think Warcraft might be a fantasy world
I can imagine a wild tiger making things bleed
source?
And bitting them
Idk if that's necessarily true, nelfs have racial stealth but i think that's more of melding with the appearances of other things due to racial reasons, so it depends on the rogue
Regrowth?
And being stealthy
Those are druid things
Shapeshifting is pretty magical
Warriors are the least magical
We can pretend the feral is not a druid
Ferals are Druids
What is the name of Nelf racial ability ?
shadowmeld, oof u right
Hunter then?
Iām talking about rogue stealth
I mean hunter kinda is not magic
nah I concede stealth is shadow magic
Beast master
Ya I think hunter might be least magical
Traps are not magic
Except maybe invis pots aren't shadow magic
Youāre right, beast master or Mm
but not talking about that
Mm is magic
Survivals actually too lol
You can't make your arrow bounce like that
Yeah thatās true
But bm just feeds his pets steroids
I think hunters and warriors are equivelent
And they do things
Hunter is def the least magical with BM and Surv
Both equally non-magical except for enchanted items
And BM IS magic bc your pets lose all their abilities if tamed, thatās a device or a curse
But bm can function without any enchanted items
You pay traps
Shoot arrows
And have a pet
Pretty standard stuff
so can warrior, as in you don't need to spec into any of the nature magic abilities can just go bleed
Your pet can do magic
And cobra shot doesnāt feel a regular phys shot, where is the cobra ?
Poison arrows
It's called cobra shot cus it's poisonous
Not cus it shoots a cobra
Well it does shoot one..
Like hunters can stealth as well for one minute
But yeah can be replicated
Though is that shadow magic or just rubbing stuff on yourself and camouflage clothes
Makes sense though since that's how hunters hunt
They camouflage
I mean, I accept goofy things, like shooting cobras
I mean OF is magic
Yeah but how do you camouflage in arena with no bushes
Only fans is magic ?
Well we said the least magic not no magic
The only reason it does is for animations, itās actually just a poisonous arrow
I am more impressed at how convincingly they can fake their death
I think the magic that hunter has is due to enchanted tools, but I also think that is the same as warrior
Letās be real, bladestorm is fucking magical, nobody is spinning that much without projectile vomiting
lmao
Or grow a turtle carapace in 0.1 sec
Warriors do plenty magic
That's just extra poison damage added
The questions about what makes a class "magical" is not if they use magical tools, but if the mana is sourced internally and is used in their abilities
Btw you know there is an add-on or weak aura that makes your screen spin when you bladestorm ?
Which is why we don't count rogue poisons as the rogues magical ability but a tool they use and apply
I saw it
Oh no
Not in games right ?
Having mana be the thing that makes something magic is a copout
Years of practice from whirlwinding
Whatās the most magical class 
Usually not but I am not testing it
On a spiny roller coast I would last about 15 seconds before I throw up
Yeah bc nausea is bc of our balance sense being weird when you spin
And brain blood / thing
All of mages arsenal is magic, and also arcane is purely "use as much mana as you can and recharge mana"
Have you ever played a game you jump from very high places like prototype? First time I played when I was jumping down it was making my chest clutch
Priest I think is the only other class that is purely using magic abilities
You might be cooked
Evoker?
Warlock can use pets to smack, shaman can smack with enhance
No games making me this way
Idk it was ages ago haven't had it since but I recall it vividly
hover
Are dragons themselves not magic?
Thoughts on WW
I don't think dracthyr are purely made up of magic
I think elementals are
The martial arts is fine I guess
They are mutant
I also don't know if mages have any abilities other than physically walking that are physical
or i guess autoattack
Magic
Yeah none of them are, warlock either
Windwalker blatantly uses magic abilities alongside punching
What's the difference between a mage a wizard and a sorcerer?
Priest
vivify is magic healing
Isnāt the black dragon big boss who made dracthyrs ? They are mutant no ?
Warlock has physical, can send their demons to punch enemies. It's true they have to summon the demons but the demons don't necessarily cast
I forgot it was deathwing tbf
DEMONS????
But they summoned those demons through magic
Read that again
yeah but the attacks are physical
The demons donāt exist for Lola without magic
so less magic than mage
Fire mage calls fire down. A natural element
Ice mage calls ice out a natural element
You canāt cast fire irl
Even when mages summon water elemental from rng or whatever I think the water elemental is casting magic
I also can summon demons
Summoning donāt necessarily require magic from the summoner
Oh uh
unlike earth elemental which punches the enemies with shaman
It does
I don't need summoning for demons either but I keep all of mine on the inside
Summoning requires fel magic pr sure
Then boom. Loks are purely magic
Not if he only use words or tools / like real world demon summons obviously
Ok but does the existence of watermelon imply that there's somewhere out there earthmelon, airmelon and firemelon ?
Youāre on something
Yes. We havenāt found the lion turtle farmers yet
Not purely as the way they interact with enemies isn't entirely magical, which is the case with mage
Heart melon. Together they form Captain melon
It is purely magic. Demons donāt exist without summoning
The fact that demons can punch and stuff like with demo lock means there is an element of physical making it less magic
therefore mages more magic
Does the existence of @undone flower imply that thereās a sadslayer out there?
If you apply that logic then fire/ice mages arenāt magic
Fire and ice are naturally occurring
Yeah but fire and water magic are magics in the warcraft universe which mages are using
Is there an alternate universe where TB is hard capped
It is two faces of the same coin, no need to prove this statement
or i guess they are subsets of arcane magic
Don't look into it too much cus it might realize in this universe
But again, these demons donāt exist without summoning
You canāt deny your own logic
An equivelency would be if water elemental that mage summons punch the enemies
Demons are also magical beings
A magic being punching things is still magic
Whatās the least magical WoW raid
Oh that's rough
We just got out of one not really magic right ?
Not if the punching is non-magical. Like a demon dog from the twisting nether that breached our reality from a portal is doing the same thing as another wolf does from duskwood
The only difference is that the warlock is creating the portal in this case and binding the demons mind to their will
The first boss isnāt magical tbh
So demon hunters are not magical
They are but not with the slashing part
lol youāre cooked bud
or the backflipping part
Yes, which boss clearly is magic in undermine ?
Eye beam is realistic
the catching on fire and eyebeam and the magical energies from the hunt are magic
Sprocket is goblin stark
Demon hunters before Pull
Itās not him who throw the void stuff
It kinda might be yeah
When tinker class 
Oh yeah
Stix is just a gundam
Stix might be magic if the trash is
According to frank you can claim all raids are non magic
No but even stix
Ricky reverb is a sound ninja from the hidden sound village
He sets things on fire which is just a flamethrower
He pilots a robot
Hell even gallywix is mostly tech
The ball thing is the most sus thing
No, I can claim things are less magic that others based on certain criteria
I can do balls irl
Show proof
Proof of balls ?
For Mythic Keys is it better to use Radiant Power or Depths?

Whatās the most magical raid
Antorus?
Or nighthold
Wait, nyalotha
Too many
Karazhan was pretty magic
definetely not nyalotha
True karazhan has 90% of the npc's as magic ghosts
Its like the library treehouse of one of the worlds best mages
antorus forsure. never battled with anything on that scale before
And nyalotha is in madness world
and never battled with anything on that scale again either
Smh with football
We might soon
Arguably the physical autoattacks of karazhan ghost npc's are magical since they aren't hitting you with flesh
Maybe they are even attacking your soul when they hit you idk
i don't think he's on the same power level lorewise, but yes he is prob the closest
Iām not really talking about just this raid
The ones in midnight or last Titan
ahh i thought you meant for next raid. in midnight or TlT i can see it happening yeah
I just like to think Warriors and Hunters inherently don't utilitize mana inside themselves for any abilities, and at most utilitize enchanted weapons and that their physical moves can indirectly cause magic outputs
If weāre talking scale at itās face value, itās definitely Dementia
Next raid
Radiant Power or Depths for Keys? Advice?
Depths would help for bosses but purely aoe itās radiant
As an irl hunter, I can tell you that before I shoot a pheasant I focus my chakra to empower the bullet
i mean like lore power level. idk what could top argus, but i'm sure there is something out there. idk THAT much about dimensius tbf
Depends on what you prio, Depths is decent ST and prio dam. Radiant is more AoE, potentially. So you kinda got to chose based on what profile you feel helps your team the most and your gameplan
Bro devoured a planet
But for ingame hunter do you use stoneshatter tmog
No
rip
I just don't want to ahve to change enchants whether I'm raiding or doing keys
I have the best xmog in the game but I'm not at pc rn
Depths is the pick for raid, right? If so just do that
It would be nice if we get a last boss that ākillsā us like Arthas or Argus did @summer quail
okay thank you! appreicate it!
yee, doubt it will happen tho
I wonder if it will happen with dimensius
Probably not
I think I know what will happen
Oh one other question - when I sim my toon with eye of kezen it's a big upgrade, but is it not going to do so well in keys?
No, not enough uptime
Last boss, kills us, deletes the characters. Then every player can only watch as after RWF fails, that the world turns into void and it all ends with a bright flash. Credits roll. "Thank you for playing World of Warcraft"
Itāll fall off fast outside of combat
We get a boss where world first kill deletes characters, but rest arent
Cuz they sacrificed themselves in lore
Remembered, as those who sacrefised themselves... for... nothing...
Whatās your guys favorite raid/ boss fight?
argus
Sire D
My favorite fight to prog was Halondrus
I think Denny might be mine too
My favorite final boss was Sire
I wonder how Dimensius is gonna be
Halondurs felt like the best wall fight theyāve ever made
ashvane betta
sludgefist
Lich king
I liked raden in Nya, but I tanked, it was really fun to kite as brew
Donāt mention that here
i played ranged that tier hahha. sludgefist big good
I only got to clear that raid since I started in Nya and had to get the razor coral trinket since it was meta. Thatās the one raid I wish I progged
Let me guess
The asthetic was so good
Aff
terrorist fight
Cool I guess
Baze has a fish fetish it seems
and on our kill i killed myself with shadow word death. very memorable kill
Lol
Yeah, me being the tank might be biased
Blackwater Behemoth raid
Since it was a crazy kite I could pull

Well, the Queen was never killed, so it is very likely we going into the water again 
either its actually underwater and just blackwater and everyone hates it and blizzard goes bankrupt or its underwater but like that one delve and the fact its underwater literally doesnt matter
Black water was a good fight
My big wishlist is a real space /spaceship raid
Im a space freak, it is similar to water smh
Underwater would be sick
We were on a space ship vs Kiljaeden
Just canāt make people get air bubbles as a mechanic
We kind of did in bfa with eternal palace
wow that sounds awful
Dog space flavor
lets get a perma mute on baze
Warrior tier
underwater levels in games are either the best or the worst. never in between, dire dire docks in sm64. insane ost
Only allowed you make the stressful drowning music go ham, while you still got half the timer left
True goated song
Subnautica 2 WHEN
I heard they wanted to make one for cata but decided against
Maybe the dislike of vashjir changed their mind
The Abyssal Maw, the portal is next to the entrance to Throne of the Tides. There's even a halfway-developed area from the raid somewhere in the files.
i mean they could always make a fake underwater zone. like you are "in" water but not swimming. so it behaves the same as out of water
cant wait for some idiot to spawn in and be like "my favorite fight was slg" or some heinous shit like that
That was practically not even underwater, you had a fast mount, and could breathe
My favorite fight was slg
council of dreams, zskarn and slg. top 3
zskarn is a good shout for worst fight of all time
But WoW engine / tech stuff being so weak with Z axis, I doubt there will be a full underwater swimming raid
Also Council of Blood
Fuck council of blood, my own guild disbanded on it 
What was the best fight in abberus
Like best designed or most fun or wha
Yes
I mean the one people still glaze here and there is Rashok
hated aberrus so much. genuinely think magmorax was my fav fight in that tier
I didnāt do mythic in DF, the first season made me unsub kinda
I only have one CE
i liked vault of the incarnates mostly. well really only disliked dathea
I have 2 (ansurek and gally) lel
Sylvanas
I havnt done ce since legion
You donāt play a lot
Bfa - Nathria mostly then TWW
I wish I could commit to a guild sometimes but even 2-night guilds its like nahhhhhh. I work and play DnD and might even occasionally want to do things other than WoW. Just the way things are.
I donāt really enjoy progressing mythic anymore tbh
Bfa I did half the bosses in mythic, and 11/12 on Nya
I stopped after incarnates

This season is my first aotc since legion. Fairly recently back. Just dont have the time to put into mythic anymore. Ive been enjoying m+ and more casual heroic though
I wasnt subbed from bfa till end of dragonflight either though.
Honestly we went into mythic prog this season and that reminded my why I quit
Just frustratingly annoying
Tbf TWW made me love it, even tho I was in rank 900 guild
We killed Sprocket then stopped
Reliable?
Hardest part of mythic is getting 23 people to show up consistently and play consistently.
Dont even have to all be pumping just do it good enough every time
If itās a tier list then no
from Echo
Took almost 400 pulls for both stix and sprocket
Cooked
does anyone know if the mount event boots the drop rate on the shoulders from zaqul
Should ?
They are so cool š
i need them so bad
Aff isnāt even red
just unlucky i guess
Shit tier list
Should not be taken into account at all if it comes from a RWF guild
To be honest, I stopped raiding because new raids are kinda meh. I would get 100% back in the scene with raids like blackrock foundry, throne of Thunder, Nighthold
Do you have a good set for them
And bc tierlists doggo boo boo
hardest part is just finding people that want the same thing as you imo
Bfa classic when
It's alphabetical mate. tho i might be getting "whooshd" here
AP grinds I need
Pause
just loot them
Im a degen AP enjoyer
well
When did you do this
Delete that immediate
Im a traitor
no
ok :3
Link for a real tier list
Tb in b is criminal
^
Lmao heroic strike
The stances in c tier is insane fake news
it is current season TB
live real, touchable TB (animation sucks)
Youāve got it right in front of heroic throwā¦..
Below ravager and a spell that doesnāt exist
there is no left/right order
Straight to jail
yep if you want, i see thunderblast as ww but it takes a full hero tree of place, to be plain
so it is in "fine" B tier
and for RB in S, RB resets is a core interaction of fury, i acknowledge it is a big chunk of the fun i have playing
Can we move Storm Bolt up if I remind you of how based it was in SoO
Rampage being b tier is objectively wrong
Rampage is the only rage spender fury has
been that way for like 36 years 
my stormwind port is broken
Evil eye of galakras was the goat
yes, do you feel something particular when you rampage in this season ?
Good times
Sustained enrage which scales with mastery and big dam
Imagine if rage actually gave warriors more damage, as in for every 1 rage = multiplies damage by 1.1 times
do you feel something good about rampage in particular / meaning IT is bc rampage, the no animation, filler feels spender
and then you have to balance the value of rage and enrage mastery proc
Easily ya
Nyalotha is
Nothing weird with Queen's Court or anything either you can just murder everything
Is that a tier for feels good or for good abilities
Even sepulcher is soloable
because it does feel better than raging blow and bloodthirst
good abilities means you feel good, why the fuck OF would be S
Didnt a hunter solo Nerubar Palace already as well?
it feels like the explosion of a build up of filler abilities
or bladestorm

yeah i see more rampage as the filler currently on the fingers, the explosion is with reck, which accelerates the rampage casts (fast rage build/depletion feels good)
if reck carry most of the fun of rampage, it is not rampage that needs to be higher imo
that's ain't a real achievement
i can't believe
fake tier list
colour tier list
i disagree with dragon placement
Would you put them in green
vengeance is green
Kinda feel like Disc should be yellow
dev is red spec
Or maybe light brown
fun fact : when i started i thought fury icon was a guy in the middle of a fire
different time
I mean it kinda looks like that
...is it not?

the visor orange being "the guy", like a childish caveman drawn guy
its so wild how much faster skyriding makes literally everything
flying thru these intro quests
cause u just fly at mach 5
good screenshot
demo lock also prolly way off
barely any of it is blue
big purple energy
I canāt unsee it when it is smol I tried to reduce the size
"Gussied up" means to be dressed in a fancy or elaborate way, often for a special occasion.
so with the new changes does that mean slayer will be better?
In raid already was. In keys hell no
what am i doing wrong
not using hamstring enough
try waiting for heroic leap on CD
this deadass should be the normal fury breakdown
in all content
yeah ravager the enchant roar clap and charge should heal mobs
OOOOOOH BANANNA
I can't be the first to notice AM reducing the cooldown of bladestorm by 8s per rampage on ptr
You beat the game yet or just trying to complete a layer before moving
im still in lagoon
im finding all the things
Good lord
I do a lot of exploring then inadvertently go down to the next layer
What makes it boring?
i will stick with Slayer otherwise
im at 59/61 ammonite and 9/10 anomalocaris
0 idea where these last 3 tiny fucks could be
Thunderclapping seems tedious, that should just be Prot thing
Omg you masochist
What makes it tedious?
Also, arms presses clap too
it wasnt 8 seconds earlier today
just thunderclapping
it helps that im a warrior brain who just likes breaking rocks
breaking rocks = chests = maps to stuff like ammonites/anomalocaris
i mean what else do you do
so i just go bonanga mode and smash
I clipped it
Isnāt it the same as spamming rb
Youāre spamming one thing or another as fury
Seems to be only during recklessness @modest condor
if its between spamming tb and rb, I'd rather hit the button that uses my weapon animations XD
But mt doesnt 'spam' the thingie, yea
It low key does
weird, im looking at a vod from earlier today and even during reck it was just 4 seconds
I wanna hit things with my big weapons more than I wanna stomp they toes. But the llightning can be neat looking
you see it though right
feels weird, thats all, i play prot too and doing it on two spec is just redundant
on ptr?
yeah
I'm the chosen one
I wouldn't say it 'feels' tedious, the whole MT thing, but I might agree if someone were to say it's less visually interesting for them
Big booms of thunder is less interesting then weapon slaps
Stomping ones feet in anger at an enemy does seem silly to me, yes lol
It's like pouting, but from a very DBZ type strongboi
Thatās a weird way to look at it but okay
Thank you for weighing in on how I look at it I guess? lol
It stopped doing it
fun lasted less time than 11.0 heroic week 
Maybe you don't have kids
There's a stomping thing some of them do when they have tantrums
Your kids create sonic booms when they stomp their feet?
If they were in a fantasy game, they might, who knows
its prob a bug with the weakaura or some shit
It was castable though
oh wo
in any case its gone and so is my joy
very strange I wish I had more time to figure out what made it happen
lasted for a whole 5 min dummy test
Iām so angwy Iām gonna wampage
essentially
You're losing the thread but that's okay
Iām relating your kid analogy to other spells
The animations, not the spell names
u can see them go from 2 to none
nah those marks were consumed by an execute
I did press execute once in that clip but you can clearly see the timer go down 8s right when my rage drops
yeah I pressed execute there
i saw it being consumed multiple times
If it was rampage you'd see the pvp debuff refresh
which no idea why that was proccing on the aoe dummies but it was
idk maybe its intended 
more bs = more dmg
wait hol up
does this mean the numbers in #updates-midnight message are bugged
and fury will do actually less dmg
if they fix it
if its an actual bug
No I wouldnt overthink it
what
This bug lasted like less than 10 mins and I cant recreate it
are slayer and thane going to be close for M+ or is thane just the assumed winner?
As of now itās most likely thane
Watch fdk eat another two digit aura nerf
how is slayer looking for the raid?

