fury

[wintry smelt]

I levelled to 80 like 2 days ago and now have to recraft to fury stats kekw but i'm loving it again

[indigo arch]

Probably another season of arms unless thane keeps getting juiced

[wintry smelt]

Was tank

[olive wraith]

I mean thane looks fine if it goes live

[worn yoke]

it would have been so nice to play a slayer fury season in keys...

just one

[indigo arch]

Yea. I was hoping for slayer too

[olive wraith]

S1 was

[indigo arch]

Bladestorm all day

[turbid bay]

I mean maybe you could on streets?

[olive wraith]

I don’t want to be slayer in both keys and raid

[worn yoke]

for 4 weeks

[indigo arch]

RA fury with bladestorm and an odyn that actually did damage

[olive wraith]

I swear thane didn’t get buffed till like .5 patch

[smoky vale]

57

[indigo arch]

Yea I coulda sworn it took them a bit to buff thane

In s1

[olive wraith]

I remember playing mostly slayer in keys

Ya

[junior gale]

JA CLAPPA

[olive wraith]

[junior gale]

[indigo arch]

And then they took odyn and RA out back and shot it

[olive wraith]

Tb spam is near and I’m so hype

[worn yoke]

i think it was about week 6 or 7 we got a substantial ST buff which pointed things towards thane, but then thane got big TC buffs after a while.
That was after ~4weeks of relentless slayer nerfs and then a dead spot in the middle where fury was just the worst spec in the game by an immeasurable amount

[wintry smelt]

Do we use void ritual for head?

[indigo arch]

Yes

[wintry smelt]

ty

[worn yoke]

I may have misread the notes, but is TB resets being guaranteed on 5 targets confirmed?

[olive wraith]

That’s a bit dramatic. But still, I swear it was mostly slayer keys in s1

[olive wraith]

Tb resetting isn’t in the notes

[indigo arch]

But either way, thane or slayer I hope they salvage fury aoe

[olive wraith]

It’s from the set proc though

[indigo arch]

Hate colossus arms lmao

[olive wraith]

What’s wrong with Col lol

Demolish feels so good to press

[worn yoke]

colossus arms just sucks to play because it needs 7 globals to set up damage, outside of that aspect its quite good/fun

[silk wharf]

I find the need to micro manage buffs and cooldowns for colossus a bit tedious.

[worn yoke]

demolish is the fyralath we have at home, sucked then and sucks now

[olive wraith]

Demolish is way faster

[worn yoke]

it's still got an aimed conical effect that roots you in place and tanks can move mobs out of it mid cast causing it to cancel (i know this is being changed) and just flatline its damage...

cleave is aimed too

[olive wraith]

Why is that bad

It’s skill expression

[last nacelle]

Hi !, for rhe slayer reap the storm buff, it's only for the RB proc ? Or it work on BT to ? (I think both proc of reap the storm is not the same between rb and bt ?)

[worn yoke]

its outdated

[olive wraith]

Tanks can move out of ravager too

[young swan]

only RB

[hushed ocean]

Ravager....this spell feels so shit to use

[silk wharf]

Ravager should just float around us instead of spin on the floor.

Like that DMC guy

[olive wraith]

Tbf ravager isn’t really for the damage

[silk wharf]

Dante?

Idk his name

[worn yoke]

i agree with the skill expression statement, but it doesnt feel 'fair' when compared to the vast majority of specs in the game these days

[radiant plank]

Why would they nerf us Xan

[worn yoke]

make dragons roar great again

[young swan]

cause its a good bit

[junior gale]

Get good or swap

[indigo arch]

Hate colossus for multiple reasons including adhd feet tanks, slight mob movement, and being stupid and casting it on a mob that can leap when range are in egypt

[silk wharf]

Warrior = Irelia

[indigo arch]

When it lands I love it

[radiant plank]

Better nerf warrior

[turbid bay]

I dislike cleave as a spell for arms the aoe and range feels meh

[worn yoke]

smoothbrain comment lmao send logs

[olive wraith]

lol demanding logs

[turbid bay]

If stuff aint tightly grouped cleave isnt hitting everything

[gleaming siren]

[junior gale]

Logs lmao

[indigo arch]

Azerokk empower add with demolish into full buff stack collateral dam cleave= endorphins

[olive wraith]

Isn’t this just melee issue

[radiant plank]

Show logs is like the wow version of show physique so its a valid argument I fear

[turbid bay]

Feel thane on fury as more aoe

Range

[junior gale]

Ahhh shit it's over

My logs are in the toilet cuz I shit them out

[olive wraith]

Ya clap is a bit more forgiving

[gleaming siren]

Show physique Walhe

[turbid bay]

Meat cleaver as well seems pretty forgiving

[olive wraith]

But like. You can’t rampage out of melee

[olive wraith]

It’s the same as sweeping strikes

[radiant plank]

its on my facebook page

[young swan]

facebook

[gleaming siren]

Link facebook

[young swan]

u are so old

[turbid bay]

Yeah for sure but cleave is important part of arms aoe

[gleaming siren]

Walhe 40 year old dad bod gamer god?

[radiant plank]

You are grandpa status compared to me

[olive wraith]

That’s just more skill expression

[young swan]

and i still dont use facebook

actually

thats a lie

[olive wraith]

Don’t turn your back on the mobs and you’re fine

[radiant plank]

You are literally from the facebook country

[young swan]

i use facebook cause my neighborhood has like a bulletin

need to keep up to date

[junior gale]

Facebook country

[young swan]

with all the local drama

[turbid bay]

Yeah for sure not wrong but it still shorter then the other spells we were discussing

[junior gale]

Home of the face and book

[radiant plank]

thats a good use

[olive wraith]

Isn’t cleave like 180 degrees in front of you

[radiant plank]

I use it to receive happy birthday messages

[olive wraith]

Hit box is pretty forgiving

[turbid bay]

No its bit more then 90 degree cone

[worn yoke]

in general both fury hero specs should be getting way more damage from their HERO trees than they do currently. Reap does piss damage in keys overall because it just hardly procs. TB does mid damage unless mass AOE dungeons (although this is looking better as of latest notes)

[gleaming siren]

Wait why don't you send logs lil bro

[young swan]

my country is lowkey on fire right now

also

im canadian

[gleaming siren]

Sorry

[turbid bay]

Tested angles range and stuff awhile back

[junior gale]

He got quiet for awhile was prob looking at my logs

[olive wraith]

You’re not even world first what do you know

[junior gale]

I'm literally Riku you don't know me

[young swan]

im so glad people just assume im credible and good

[indigo arch]

toss in a lowercase xd for good measure

[olive wraith]

Bro my main is 5000 rio

[young swan]

its so epic

i can just say things

[wintry smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/dsad-gif-24676425

[junior gale]

Xan on his way to spread misinformation

[indigo arch]

based

[gleaming siren]

Colored name

Opinion ignored

[young swan]

i havent been good at this game in like 3 expansions

shits fire

[wintry smelt]

Same

[gleaming siren]

I have never been good

[wintry smelt]

I am washed

[young swan]

ur in NS u are fine

[wintry smelt]

But was never good

[young swan]

i peaked wr55 or something

and barely that

[gleaming siren]

Well

I'm a trial

[young swan]

ur gonna own

[wintry smelt]

I'm ready

[gleaming siren]

If they keep nerfing Warrior

[young swan]

thane got buffered

[gleaming siren]

I will own from the sweet embrace of the bench

[young swan]

very epic buffer too

also slayer didnt actually get nerfed

fake nerf

[junior gale]

Reap go brr

[gleaming siren]

Yea Slayer is an actively good change

[indigo arch]

time to locate ptr footage of these buffs since was at work for 22 years

[gleaming siren]

Moving more power into the AoE proc

[indigo arch]

I better see blue shit constantly all over the screen

[gleaming siren]

But Colo Arms catching a stray nerf

[wintry smelt]

Slayer and thane ST simmed same for me

[gleaming siren]

Is insane

[young swan]

yeah colo arms getting nerfed is insane lmfao

[junior gale]

Arms catching stray nerfs is nothing new this expansion

[radiant plank]

Sorry

[wintry smelt]

Melee always get nerfs while range get buffs

[radiant plank]

Shot for the sins of prot breakdowns being like 60% bleeds

[wintry smelt]

Arcane got buffed

Like

WTF

[radiant plank]

Also FBV nerfs due to prot

[edgy widget]

it's pretty neutral, if anything it comes out to a buff with more targets

[radiant plank]

nerfing arms sustain

[young swan]

this arcane in my group earlier crit an arcane barrage for 21mil

[radiant plank]

Its so hard for blizz to separate tuning on same talents between specs :icant

[wintry smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/steam-uninstal-halo-game-app-gif-25775026

Yh bye

[radiant plank]

Quick maths its a nerf to arms tho?

[edgy widget]

not from what I was looking at, I had to paper napkin math the reap change, but it still seemed fairly neutral in ST

[radiant plank]

More rng swing now tho

[gleaming siren]

Honestly

[edgy widget]

eh its not that swingy, especially in ST

[gleaming siren]

The craziest thing is they still haven't done anything to Boomie

[young swan]

have u seen feral

[radiant plank]

They just did last night

[gleaming siren]

No i've been busy getting gapped by Orange class

[radiant plank]

its now capped off of max AP instead of max HP

[indigo arch]

the fact that bm is looking this good is wild

one button assistant players unite!

[gleaming siren]

Does that actually lower the top end that much

[radiant plank]

300k AP vs 15mil HP

[gleaming siren]

🤷‍♂️

We'll see

[worn yoke]

devs sleep like babies knowing we are going to have a VDH/healer/boomy/mage/priest meta in Season 3

[indigo arch]

status quo maintained tbh

hopefully by end of ptr the monk debuff+w/e they change= phy has a chance of not being stinky as fuck

[edgy widget]

they nerfed one of their tiers today

[gleaming siren]

About time

[edgy widget]

I think they were also bugged on the PTR, but I don't know all the specifics because I really don't care about druids

[gleaming siren]

Who does

[radiant plank]

Your name is orange but you dont care about orange class

gg

[gleaming siren]

(I do when they gap me by >1 mill every pull)

[radiant plank]

Dont invite them noober

[gleaming siren]

Don't think that flies for raid testing

[inland flame]

Something let Boomkin store damage to get 150mil+ Starsurges or something

That they fixed

[gleaming siren]

Well

It's bugged again and the cap is now lower than intended

[inland flame]

Yeah well that's what PTR is for

[junior gale]

No it's for dooming about numbers

[inland flame]

por que no los dos

[gleaming siren]

With how late into their cycles they launch PTR now

How often they fail at simple math is astounding

[vernal laurel]

Bois, since Thunder Blast is now omega damage, is there any chance we press Blodthirst > Raging blow to just fish for more Thunder Blast procs?

I mean we do while the target is 35% or lower, but I mean in general

[kind cypress]

what fury needs again

[inland flame]

We don't have Battle Cry anymore so it wouldn't be that special, but it was fun at the time

[kind cypress]

thing was nonsense

[olive wraith]

I’m guessing yes. Sims still need to come out though

[vernal laurel]

Would be cool if we would even consider Gathering clouds. wonder how many more avatar procs that is, and in turn how many more TB procs we can fish

[gleaming siren]

That wasn't even the best trinket of the expansion

[indigo arch]

Elisande trinket from nighthold tw raid somehow pls

[proven stream]

arcanocrystal

[indigo arch]

pls no arcanocrystal, broke into hives just reading that

[coarse nest]

“Pull 20 pls”

[gleaming siren]

Sleeping on the real damage trinket (Umbral Moonglaives)

[eternal sundial]

Isnt this just grieftorch

[young swan]

wrong

[eternal sundial]

But less cool

[young swan]

it was only cool cause cds worked on trinkets

what we need back is cds working on trinkets

[eternal sundial]

Like wings xd

[gleaming siren]

DoS was a large share of your damage so people remember it as very OP

[young swan]

to be fair it was OP

[olive wraith]

what fury needs again

[young swan]

but it was only OP cause of gigis modifier stacking

[young swan]

if they made it like a mid tier takent surr

capstone

fuck no

[slim coral]

They need to put hoa trinket up

[olive wraith]

remove rb

[slim coral]

So i can test it

[young swan]

wrong

remove rb is the most braindead take ive ever had the displeasure of hearing in this discord

[gleaming siren]

They haven't put HoA trinket up because it's not ready for testing (still provides double the stats of other trinkets)

Nobody in their right mind should for a second believe HoA trinket goes live even close to as strong as it is now

[young swan]

ah yes lets remove rb so we can put another ability in that does all of the same things rb does but doesnt have the same name

please find a cliff

[gleaming siren]

@clever belfry

[olive wraith]

Spicy xan is out tonight

[radiant plank]

Remove rampage, make BT and Exe cost rage, RB no longer benefits from Meat Cleaver

[bitter palm]

lets remove rb and press slam

[gleaming siren]

RB no longer benefits from Meat Cleaver, Whirlwind damage increased by 1000%

Legion Warrior

[radiant plank]

Exactly

[bitter palm]

after casting bladestorm ur whirlwind damage is increased by an additional 2000% for 8 seconds

and battle cry

[gleaming siren]

Naj'entus is equipped

[fossil orbit]

So.. Instead of fixing the real issue - the target cap - so they could properly balance our dmg for both M+ and raids, they decided to buff our new tier set instead?

[young swan]

u know what would be cool

[gleaming siren]

If we all quit the game

[clever belfry]

u cant say that

[young swan]

real

but no

[clever belfry]

please refer to it as

"google closest bridge"

the best thing about legion warrior was clipping last 2 hits of rampage into BC

dont @ me

[olive wraith]

Just give bt real talent support instead of rb

[young swan]

that shit was epic

[clever belfry]

bro atted me

[gleaming siren]

@clever belfry

[clever belfry]

MERKEL!!!!

[gleaming siren]

Anda have you won the escape room yet

[clever belfry]

i just got up

bro i woke up

5am

7am

8am

[gleaming siren]

I am about to win I have a doctor's appointment

[clever belfry]

so its not going too well

[burnt cape]

i tested fury on ptr and the class is blasting. We looking good. This season was not that bad with phys comps so i am very hopefull for next season too

[olive wraith]

Plus phys comp buffed

[bitter palm]

"buffed"

you will just be tuned lower

[gleaming siren]

I prefer the term

reinforced

[hushed ocean]

yeah, and we will not going to be nerfed, just adjusted

[undone sky]

hello people, im currently assa / sub rogue player and thinking about rerolling to warri next season.
How hard is the class to learn?

[hushed ocean]

why would you do that?

[fossil orbit]

U rerolling to a C tier class? 😂

[undone sky]

im more thinking into the fun department, rogue feels really off sadly

and i played a bit around on my warri and it was pretty fun

[lyric panther]

Its fine but go frost dk

[hushed ocean]

here, we're already trapped in this shit class, our divine purpose is to prevent others from falling

[indigo arch]

If fun is glueing yourself to a phy damage comp, go for it

[olive wraith]

Fury is really fun to me

Next season it’s looking like we spam clap

Don’t let these doomers deter you

[undone sky]

im not that big into m+ more like mythic raiding

[olive wraith]

Oh fury looks pretty good for raid

[proven stream]

I'm swapping to war specifically for phys comp heh

[hushed ocean]

fury is really fun, u can litteraly play a game of lol while queuing for M+

[olive wraith]

Ya if you wanna push 18-20s

[hushed ocean]

you can also spend time with family while queuing

[olive wraith]

Cap

[undone sky]

i would maybe go prot warri for m+ and fury or arms in raid

[fast mural]

If you push m+ you don't have a family

[olive wraith]

Good news. Prot looks juicy

[indigo arch]

Yea and the alternative is just getting declined lul

[fossil orbit]

🤣🤣🤣

[hushed ocean]

"baby, can you empty the dishwasher while you're playing wow" "no worries darling, i'm actually looking for m+"

[olive wraith]

You don’t need phys comp for 15s and under

[hushed ocean]

it's a true story

[indigo arch]

It's not a matter of need, it's a matter of what braindead group lead "thinks" they need

then becoming "post own key or no inv"

[sour frigate]

This

[olive wraith]

That’s always a dps issue

[indigo arch]

unless doing vault keys, those schmucks will just inv ilvl+io

(mostly)

[fast mural]

Like you wouldnt

[hushed ocean]

even for vault keys, ilvl + io is mandatory

[indigo arch]

(and still invite ret/mm/etc instead typically)

[hushed ocean]

"we rush"

[indigo arch]

Oh I know full well what I would and wouldn't, and fury isn't high on my list of specs to invite

[olive wraith]

All dps get rejected. It’s the most competitive slots for keys

[indigo arch]

faster to just invite uh/mm/ret/rogue and a W key tank that will pull half the dungeon while the uncapped dps sneeze and it dies

[sour frigate]

[hushed ocean]

yeah, even chads get left swipped, but at the end of the year, they're getting more biskits than others

[oblique pond]

Is thunder blast uncapped?

[olive wraith]

It’s soft capped

[indigo arch]

Hopefully this tuning+more tuning occurs

since fury is still way more fun to me even if it's stinky ass AM+ravager

[oblique pond]

So if it does good dmg and we are spamming it with the new tierset changes is that not a really good thing

[compact knot]

surely they change dps warrior outside of the tier set at some point

[hushed ocean]

they will 100% adjust thane set

[olive wraith]

It’s a great thing

[hushed ocean]

they always do that

[indigo arch]

sidearm buffs incoming

[hushed ocean]

when something is really shit, they skyrocket buff it, collect some "datas" then adjust it

strange thing is, this statement doesn't work with the whole warrior class

[compact knot]

boomkin nerf might be one of the biggest of all time

[oblique pond]

I just wonder if the new TB dmg will compete with arms having a 16 stack collateral damage buff with bongrinder buff from ravager and just send 20 mil cleave

[indigo arch]

as long as they push thane past colossus arms or near it idc

Miss how tanky fury is

[compact knot]

it was already close to arms

i think the arms tier set is like very good in m+ though

[indigo arch]

Only thing i'd miss from arms is collateral damage memeing

[compact knot]

so idk where it lands now

[oblique pond]

Nah man arms dmg in large pulls is insane

[compact knot]

ehh idk

[olive wraith]

Col got sucker punched too

[oblique pond]

Like i can do 30 mil plus dps on packs in cinderbrew

You will never do that as fury

[compact knot]

i havent done a key in like a month but i never got close to 30m lol

highest ive bursted this season actually was as slayer fury

[flat river]

I fucking went downstairs to get my charger 3 times and each time i forgot to get it 😭

[bitter palm]

depends on how many procs u get

of TB

ur aoe depends entirely on rng

[olive wraith]

Post nerfs?

[compact knot]

oh do you mean on ptr @oblique pond

[oblique pond]

This was in a 15 cinderbrew like a week or 2 ago as arms

Huge pull, had all my stacks and buffs and just send the biggest cleaves

Then i was thinking i could have never done this kind of dmg as fury

[wintry smelt]

Wtb haste

[compact knot]

you know

[olive wraith]

What was your damage at the end of the pill

It’s one thing to peak. It’s another to sustain

[compact knot]

i know its a fake metric to check, but i checked 15 cinderbrews

and the rank 1 fury is higher than the rank 1 arms

and you wouldnt guess who is the rank 1 fury on 15 cinderbrews

my goat loboz and his slayer fury

[bitter palm]

HOLY GOAT

IS BACK

[flat river]

U need more haste

Where is lust

[wintry smelt]

horrific visions lmao

[compact knot]

he is actually rank 1 on every keystone as slayer fury

[wintry smelt]

Suprised tf outta me i was BLASTING

[compact knot]

legend

and the overalls arent even close man

wtf

[bitter palm]

loboz

[wintry smelt]

So slayer better

[bitter palm]

nah its just loboz

[compact knot]

i think it depends on dungeon tbh

[wintry smelt]

I beat a 670+ warlock as 657 warrior with unenchanted 636 offhand

[compact knot]

when i tested it though, it unironically was like really good overalls in higher target cap dungeons

[wintry smelt]

I love fury again

[compact knot]

higher than my arms overalls

[bitter palm]

i played a bit and did good

but i spammed execute

[steel shard]

When will you guys learn overall damage is not the be all end all

[bitter palm]

yapyap

[wintry smelt]

We are warriors ddamage matters

[compact knot]

yeah fake

loboz owns all you fake mountain thaners

[wintry smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/physicaldamage-gif-25323552

I will speak like an arcane mage "We HaVe PrIo DaMaGe"

We fuck the mobs that need fucking

[compact knot]

the loboz build also has like actual good boss damage

just worse prio

though its still good prio

[peak lagoon]

i guess the tier does something now on 5 targets

[bitter palm]

just need rng

and fury is good

[hushed ocean]

yeah, but still less than others

[peak lagoon]

i mean its not that rng heavy, you get so many tclaps on aoe its kinda silly

[tranquil nimbus]

Friendship with slayer terminated. Marriage proposal to thane.

[shadow flame]

yes just tested it as well

Thunder Blast slaps confirmed

we are getting nerfed 100%

[south kayak]

Boomkin nerf?

[warm crag]

They need to nerf slayer

[south kayak]

So true

BM hunter still broken in m+

[earnest canyon]

even after nerfs or did they all change to black arrow/dark ranger?

[south kayak]

I think it’s still the tier set being broken

Pack

I could be wrong

[dense sedge]

I’m a smooth brain bonker, the changes to warrior sets any good bros!

[peak lagoon]

the thane set is definitly an upgrade

[dense sedge]

More bonk you say?

[south kayak]

Just a little bit of an upgrade

[earnest canyon]

I hope it was pack, don't like dark ranger

[south kayak]

I don't think BM plays Dark Ranger

It's way behind Pack

Pack just scales insanely with BM because they're a pet spec

DR needs a lot of buffs for Bm to make it competitive

[earnest canyon]

Good to know, thanks!

[gusty compass]

Lol no.

[trail thunder]

i know the thane set buff is a SLIGHT upgrade, but is it genuinly enough to power through the 5target cap and or really see play in raiding over slayer?

ive seen some people say "nerf imminent" but that seems a bit extreme unless i am underestimating massively just how much this sims

[south kayak]

There's nothing slight about that buff

it's huge

[trail thunder]

yeah, but "played in raids" huge or regular huge

[south kayak]

I think there's a good chance thane could be played in raids, not pure ST bosses but bosses with trash or council fights

Which is fine because from what I'm seeing, Slayer is intended to be a pure ST spec

[high echo]

how do you use BiS and House of Cards in the rotation if u have both?

[south kayak]

I think you use HoC first then BiS on your next Reck

[bright loom]

Hoc first, BiS on reck

[shadow flame]

The Thane Buff is actually pretty good. Now the tier bonus is solid. But, it is still lackluster. It's like it's trying its best to be good but, it's not in comparison to other classes. The problem is the base power/dmg of warrior atm is extremely low. So buffing a tier bonus can only do so much.

[south kayak]

Well, this week's tuning was entirely set bonus tuning, the tuning you're looking for will come soon

[sand crest]

fury still needs fury tuning beyond set bonuses

[shadow flame]

Yes, I am not complaining since this is a step in the right direction. More need to come though.

[south kayak]

They'll tune sets where they want them to be, then comes the usual class tuning

[high echo]

right? ceers

[bright loom]

sounds like a few of you is gonna be suprised how much better thane will be on most raid bosses this tier in mythic then many other classes, with how this buff is gonna play out.

[shadow flame]

if you look at the m+ breakdown on PTR. The hero talents + tier bonus is trying it's hardest to pull us up. Around 30-40% of our damage is TB now. But rampage, RB, BT are just turbo bad.

[dense elbow]

Its buffing the AoE potential quite a bit. Turns us from a 6-7 overall spec to a 7-8m overall spec.

Slayer sits at a solid 5-6m. And BM at 14m. For context.

Will this stay this way? Probably not for hunter. Hopefully not for Slayer. Yet Thane seems to be in the spot most specs seem to be aimed at.

[south kayak]

I wouldn't say that

[warm crag]

We won't be relevant for m+ raid or pvp unless we get Lust and brez

[south kayak]

[dense elbow]

Unless we do really good dam*

[warm crag]

Wrong again

[dense elbow]

Oh I ain't wrong here

[south kayak]

Are you really asking if BM is gonna stay 14m overall? lol

of course it's not

it's evident they don't want them to be considering they've been nerfing them weekly at this point

[dense elbow]

You clearly did not read

[sour frigate]

[south kayak]

I know, I like moving goal posts

I know what you mean, i just wanted to talk about bm

there has to be a bug at this point

no way something survivels a 75% nerf

and still is broken

[warm crag]

Stupid again

Fury Stier if we had Lust and a melee range brez that had a 2s cast time and had a chance to fail

[shadow flame]

You should stop calling people that, it's not very nice

[warm crag]

Sorry

[south kayak]

Our Brez is yelling at somebody to ress them

[dense elbow]

It's fine, it is what they so on this server to me

[inland flame]

Good news you can buy a melee-range brez on the AH now

[wintry smelt]

I love fury 🙂 677 hunter kek

I did 10m first pull in brew

[warm crag]

Is it also a 2 second cast time and had a chance to fail

[wintry smelt]

YAY

[south kayak]

Just now?

[inland flame]

Yea it was released yesterday

[dense elbow]

S1 DPS alert

[limber oar]

In what way does brez and lust make us better in raid?

[south kayak]

Spongie is baiting

[limber oar]

I see

Myb im tired

[warm crag]

I got at least 3 this time

[limber oar]

Early morning is cheating

I havent had my coffee yet

[dense elbow]

I think Spongie isn't really baiting, as much trying to obfuscate his bad takes

[sand crest]

playing off a bad take as ragebait is a goated strat fr fr

[warm crag]

I'll count you twice

[dense elbow]

If that makes you feel better about it

[warm crag]

[wintry smelt]

kekw

[dense elbow]

I could smell the S1

[south kayak]

I should have gotten skip on Sepulcher before this event

[wintry smelt]

And they say fury is shit

https://tenor.com/view/ashtonthwaites-ashtonstutter-gif-16005585576921508657

[gleaming siren]

ironic

really

Warrior will only be good when Execute costs Rage again

[heavy galleon]

Delete rampage, make execute great again

[gleaming acorn]

Hello guys ! Do you have some cool PTR build for raiding ? Please :))

[celest sierra]

Good morning my fellow Fury warriors …. Er well I don’t call us Fury, we are more like Angry given our treatment

[dense elbow]

Why we angry now?

The tierchange for Thane was pretty pog

Sure Slayer (4) is still depressoexpresso, but that is to be expected

[celest sierra]

Cause you play Fury warrior. Reason nuff lmao

[thick fossil]

I'm stealing "depressoexpresso" lol

[dry talon]

After charge/reck/avatar i dont have enough rage to rampage,but its only recent problem,what can be wrong?

[last sparrow]

charging too far/out of combat go

[dense sedge]

You’re probably charging without both of them popping in which case you won’t have enough rage

[dry talon]

I mean everything in macro and never had any problems

[dense sedge]

So what I’m saying is are they popping as they don’t always line up. Your initial first pull you’ll have both up and will be able to rampage after the charge 🙂

[plush zephyr]

no

[pine gust]

Whoops

Failed

😄

[dense elbow]

Failed succesfully

[pearl sequoia]

epic fail

[warm crag]

No Lust for the 10th expansion in a row

[dense elbow]

Good thing lust doesnt matter

[vocal fog]

When r we getting some rework

[warm crag]

You say that but warrior was never meta in m+ and bshout for raid

If we had lust you'd bring 2 every raid

[radiant plank]

me when i give a tank bloodlust

[warm crag]

You'd bring 3 warriors if we had a 2s cast time melee range rez that doesnt revive them at full HP and has a chance to fail

[dense elbow]

Rogue/Feral and WW monks giving standing applause. Then ya think to yourself, that leaves 1 more spot, what to fill it with? Hunter or Shaman? hms hms hms

Warrior having lust giving so many options

[radiant plank]

Hol up

[dense elbow]

Real question, can engi ress even fail, with the failsafe from the profession?

I have no idea, it never happened - but that is RNG for ya

[thick fossil]

We might see some rework done going into Midnight expansion. Though I wouldn't hold my breath on that. Blizzard seems pretty content leaving warrior as a garbage class.

[warm crag]

Idk i used it like twice this patch

[dense elbow]

Well, as I have never seen it fail, it is a huge problem that it fails a lot

[fluid pollen]

Are the buffs to thane at least decent?

[dense elbow]

Yep

[fluid pollen]

Ok. So we’re not completely dooming anymore?

[dense elbow]

Depends, do you believe they will tune every outlier down to our level?

Nah? Doom away

[fluid pollen]

I do not

🥲

At least our st is nice

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-is-it-though-thor-bruce-banner-gif-14242312

[spare steppe]

I can’t wait to see the sim numbers with the new mt 4p

And live in blissful ignorance that everything is fine

[dense elbow]

Because it is fine, it is always and will always be fine, that is fine

its fine, cause it is fine, and all is fine

its fine

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/april-fools-joke-dog-its-fine-this-is-not-gif-1750056094467610487

[jade ocean]

As long as you can log in with the warrior it's definitely fine.

[sour frigate]

Hell yeah #1 wq/delve class

[storm rune]

perfectly fine and not bugged at all

[south kayak]

That's not a bug

[unique thistle]

Now do fury

[storm rune]

ew

[south kayak]

this is ST, BT is inflated from Execute range dummy

[dry talon]

👍🏼

[vernal laurel]

Guys, how can you make Simulationcraft work on the PTR?

[trail thunder]

ok fun question, compared to its original first iteration, HOW MUCH more damage is the thane set doing now?

over 10x of its original value right? way more

[vernal laurel]

Was doing like 2-3% at the start, now it feels more like 20% ish

Dont have math, but thats the feeling im getting

[clever path]

I just want them to fix the priority confusion with fury, between raging blow and rampage, cuz it’s very confusing

[warm crag]

What do you want to do

[dense elbow]

For a tierset based around buffing the Hero Talent tree, that looks about right

Slayer tho, Slayer is far from that fantasy.

[smoky vale]

wiggle my shii

@dusky moon come wiggle with me

[plush zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/slayer-slayer-fan-slayer-ccream-slaytanic-slayeeeeeer-gif-12092692

hi funky:) good luck on vault

[dense elbow]

Thanks, but today aint vault day

[smoky vale]

yes it is

[plush zephyr]

eu doesn't exist

[dense elbow]

sounds about right when you say it doesn't

[main sierra]

Hi, hoping for some advice/help on my fury warrior. I'm ilvl 683 w/ BIS items and correct talents. However, in keys I only manage to do 2.8M DPS. My enrage uptime is about 80 percent. I use Rampage as much as possible and Raging Blow and Ravager, along with the CDs. I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong, any help would be appreciated. Thank you!

[dense elbow]

Based on that tid-bit, you are not pressing your buttons right. Check #dps-faq and go over the basics

[clever path]

I sim 3.174 m on single target as fury slayer and only reach like 2.4 m or 2.8 m at best, but I just can’t quite understand yet, if I have 2 charges of raging blow should I press that over rampage even if I’m capping rage?, or send rampage everytime, idk I’m sad

[smoky vale]

do you have a recent log

[gilded pawn]

Refer to wowhead guide

[south kayak]

Dan's streaming with MT rn

on PTR

not bad

[clever path]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wxyprf3RPkbcWLFD?fight=31&type=damage-done This is vexie cuz I’ve come into raiding recently, and want to get better at it

[hardy quiver]

Question I did a priory +10 for vault im 680 and my overall was 4.48b 3.74m. Was this dps good for priory?

[dusky moon]

This new obsession isn't healthy for you

[smoky vale]

dps in m+ has too much variance that seems fine idk

[smoky vale]

i can do if you're allowed to rage bait buddy

missed a reck missed rampages pressing execute too early use wa if need help and wwing too early

[dusky moon]

I wasn't even here !?!

[fleet pasture]

where do i find that statistic tool?

[smoky vale]

wowanalyzer

[limber oar]

Wowanalyzer.com

[fleet pasture]

thanks 🙂

[smoky vale]

mainly use it in st

freaks out in keys

[limber oar]

Should be aware that itll probably tell you thats youre overcapping on rage too much but thats very normal

Shouldnt read into that part too too much

Cause bladestorm -> raging blow spam giga overcaps you

[smoky vale]

i mean 13 rampages missed is too much

[limber oar]

Ya thats bad

[smoky vale]

@winter shoal buddy does it ignore the pressing ramp after a bs or

[clever path]

Thank you guys, I’ll look into that and work on it, also I’ll try to use that website to follow up

[limber oar]

Also you can input good players logs

[smoky vale]

i would recommend reading the wowhead guide as main source

[limber oar]

And look at their logs and see what theyre doing

[winter shoal]

I missed the entire conversation, I assume you mean does wowa yell at you for BF SS stacking?

[smoky vale]

like for missing rampage catss

[limber oar]

Like using wowanalyzer to help look at people’s casts

[winter shoal]

If so, no. It's okay with overcapping rage eith RB to stack SS for BF

[smoky vale]

after bs

[winter shoal]

Shouldn't yell at you for that

[limber oar]

Ah ok

[winter shoal]

If it is, send me the report and I can take a look after work

[smoky vale]

so thats just 13 missed ramps

[winter shoal]

There used to be an issue with it because log events are fucked

But I fixed that

[smoky vale]

im just asking i cba looking

i assume next patch we dont even stack ramp

[limber oar]

I havent used it in a bit does it still comment on overcapping rage cause of bladestorm in general

[smoky vale]

we just insta ramp rb

[winter shoal]

No, not from BS itself or the unhinged BTs

[limber oar]

Cool

[winter shoal]

Last I saw we do still stack for BF

[smoky vale]

goofy ahh

@ebon junco

https://tenor.com/view/illusion-huh-wtf-bruh-fish-gif-12789465345130665109

[limber oar]

Bruh

[fleet pasture]

got me

[sullen tendon]

wtf is this

[limber oar]

Wowanalyzer

[plush zephyr]

i like fish sticks

[glad coyote]

bro i havnt had fish sticks in a minute, need to get me some

[limber oar]

This is something a bit more minor but you should hold using your tempered potion on vexie until the extra dmg phase with lust

Its not minor, you should absolutely do it, but your mechanical mistakes are losing you more dps than proper tempered potion usage would gain

But still dps loss

[steep fable]

when are we going to be able to use bladestorm in m+ ? 😬

[sullen tendon]

this thing is lying

[limber oar]

Talk to @winter shoal not me

[winter shoal]

Can you be more specific

[summer quail]

you're gonna love next season then

[sullen tendon]

we press rb over rampage a lot of the time

[clever path]

Besides all the mistakes I made, I can’t tell if I’m underusing RB or Rampage

[sullen tendon]

and downtime probably isnt accurate

trying to lineup cds because avatar

[winter shoal]

Downtime you're correct, there's some kind of issue with it but I'm not sure what specifically. I'm almost certain the rb vs ramp thing is correct though, compare a vod to the timeline

It only gets mad if you use a builder over ramp above 100 rage btw

[smoky vale]

also is that from a key

because that would skew the graph

[sullen tendon]

yes

is it for raid only

[smoky vale]

yeah single target

[winter shoal]

You can use it for m+ but it's not specifically made for it

There are checks like using ww stacks efficiently but there are a lot more variables that would need to be accounted for in m+ vs raid

[smoky vale]

its just going to skew missed ramp usages from tbs

[winter shoal]

I don't think TB is in the list of builders it's checking for

At work rn can't check, but I'm pretty sure

[smoky vale]

does it count pressing cc

[winter shoal]

Count it for what?

[smoky vale]

like missing globals you should have ramped

oh wait it says builder

owah

[winter shoal]

Yeah it's not missed globals, it's a global where you used a builder when ramp would've been better

[sullen tendon]

what does it mean by this

it wasnt on cooldown for 91% of the time if i hit it 18/19 times

[smoky vale]

you missed a cast because you held

[sullen tendon]

thats like a 5% downtime

[limber oar]

Bruh

[winter shoal]

Only if the total key duration is equal to exactly 19 uses of ava

[sullen tendon]

alsodungeon so its probably comapring time of whoel dungeon

yea

[limber oar]

Means you help it a couple of seconds a bunch of times so much so that you lost a cast and change

[sullen tendon]

running between packs and saving for more important packs

[winter shoal]

But also I'm p sure logs just combine keys into one really long encounter

[smoky vale]

it does

[winter shoal]

So cd efficiency needs to be taken with a grain of salt

[sullen tendon]

it probably counts time in combat

so if we do a 4 pack pull with small mobs and i dont use avatar becuase theres a big pack with a mini boss on next pull it counts it

[winter shoal]

Wowanalyzer looks at logs, it doesn't know about combat state

[limber oar]

Ye

[winter shoal]

It's not an addon so it can't call the game api

[limber oar]

Which is why logs for m+ are kinda fake

[sullen tendon]

yea im saying WL looks at combat not entire dungeon

[limber oar]

Right but even there you dont know the context of the pulls

[winter shoal]

I mean, you could from the log, but it wouldn't be feasible

You'd have to check every target hit by every ability, then maintain a list of "important" targets and check against that

[smoky vale]

aids

[winter shoal]

Which would be dreadful for performance and also a massive pain to add and maintain every patch

Also if meta routes change then gg

[pale sentinel]

Is fury Dead 11.2?! 😮

[winter shoal]

Yeah z tier gg

[smoky vale]

bigbowwl will you be playing frost with me

🙂

[winter shoal]

Man I saw an azor video this morning saying bm was nerfed but still strong and all the comments were like gg hunter can't have nice things, dogshit tier now

Like holy

Hunter players attempt to watch a 4 minute video

[winter shoal]

As an alt probably

[marble pilot]

I dunno endless blast spam is enough for me. It looks real fun. Even if the numbers are still bad

[winter shoal]

Numbers should be okay now I think

For thane aoe

Idk any specifics but it should be a massive buff

Esp if the proc rate is actually 35% as advertised now

[marble pilot]

Is they go though as is do we change any talents. Or just same build but slayer hits execute more. Thane no changes

Well I guess thane hits blast more

[winter shoal]

Change from live or from previous PTR build?

[marble pilot]

Live

[winter shoal]

Slayer build will change, you'll drop VC

Thane build I'm not sure off the top of my head

[marble pilot]

No real rotational changes though.
Just execute more and tblast more.

[sinful spoke]

it means ur bad

moral of the story is

dont listen to that website

its not always updated

and based on fights u might have to hold cds

[winter shoal]

Execute higher prio yeah, tb is the same prio but just more procs

[winter shoal]

Did you miss the whole discussion after of me describing the ways in which it is updated

[dense elbow]

Boii is it depressoexpresso doing keys atm. Ppl going all "you doing great overall dam, but we need more AoE dam to make these pulls go faster"
Blizzard plz, buff OF 60% and BS 20%, so I can pretend to help on pad as well I beg

[sinful spoke]

i aint reading alla

[winter shoal]

Or are you just yapping about things you don't actually know about

[sinful spoke]

bla bla bla

[jolly marten]

do we have some numbers on mountain thanes buffs?

[pale sentinel]

So we just have to admit we wil be dog shit tier dps for M+ this expansion then

😦

[sinful spoke]

yes

[winter shoal]

Believe it or not the person who literally wrote the code might know more about what it does than you

[dense elbow]

We dont know yet, as tuning hasnt happened

but I would presume so

[sinful spoke]

didnt ask

[winter shoal]

I don't think fury will be meaningfully different in keys than it has previously. Perfectly viable but not meta

[winter shoal]

Maybe you should ask before offering an uninformed opinion

[sinful spoke]

bla bla bla

[dense elbow]

Boii do I love being told that my DPS sucks. It is fun being 'viable' DPS, in a world of top performers when all that matters in reality in a PuG world is the DPS you do on overall the first pull of the dung

[sinful spoke]

this website so smart telling me to charge in muggy when the charge sometimes takes u right into the intermission bullet hell

and gets u killed

hmmge

[edgy widget]

Trick is to charge after he stops moving

[storm birch]

You just gotta wait until he’s dead stop

But ofc if you’re having issues with timing there don’t risk it. Better alive and walking than dead haha

[sinful spoke]

legit doing that has also gotten me killed which is why i only charge in emergencies

[winter shoal]

He didn't ask

[edgy widget]

Na it doesn’t

[sinful spoke]

but it has though

[storm birch]

You must be doing it early

[edgy widget]

[sinful spoke]

why would i lie

[summer quail]

i charge everytime. works fine

[storm birch]

Cause the whole point is how the charge maps while he’s also charging. When he’s at a dead stop it treats it as normal you can’t go into the middle of the hit box

[edgy widget]

I don’t think you’re lying, just that you’re incorrect

[storm birch]

You may have charged a bad angle when he’s at a stop and gotten hit by edge of frontal

[sinful spoke]

it wasnt a lot of times it was like5 and i stopped doing it afterwards tbh

i didnt wanna rask it

[storm birch]

I think second charge is easy to accidentally do that

[sinful spoke]

i just started leaping to the side it was rotating

and being safer

[storm birch]

Yea I did that during prog too

[winter shoal]

I charged 5 times on mugzee last week and didn't die once, how curious

[edgy widget]

As oxxy indicated, what ends up causing you to charge through the boss is the games inability to predict the boss stopping suddenly; the same thing happens if you charge too quickly while Sprocket is in the air, and a lot of other bosses that move like that too

If you wait until they come to a complete stop, you’re fine

Also the rotation shouldn’t kill you either, though I wouldn’t recommend it regardless

[storm birch]

From my experience the only time I really died on a good charge during rotation was if I had to dodge a lightning circle (or got stunned) and charged a tad late. So I could see why they could think charging is cursed if that happened to them. But if you get the rhythm down it’s a pretty safe. I still didn’t risk it though cause I’d rather live than die and have the squad mald

[winter shoal]

I think that's happened to me one (1) time

[edgy widget]

Yeah that’s possible, bad angle causes you to get clipped by the rotation

Not an issue of going through the boss though, just mispositioning

Also human master race, just break your own stun

[sinful spoke]

yeah but id lose my glide

i like glide

[charred drum]

Is thane viable after the new buff or is it still not enough to catch up to slayer ?

[sinful spoke]

id recommend main swapping 😔

out dpsd by aug again

[coarse nest]

Human is so nice to have

Get of jail free card

[dense elbow]

Depends on what you mean by viable. By the definitions most often used in here, then it is fine, as it always is fine.

[charred drum]

what i mean is : has it reach the same damage as slayer in m+ ?

[storm birch]

Yup yup!!

[storm birch]

Orc superiority!!!!

[storm birch]

I’ve been messing around on my newly 80 boomie. It feels so nice to have cool animations to go along with your rotation. Satisfying to watch beams raining everywhere

Why we have no beams 😭

When can I become a warrior of elune

[sinful spoke]

💀

u dont like slapping the boss with ur swoprds?

spinning with ur swords like a special kid

[storm birch]

Bladestorm is cool looking but I end up using ravager mostly cause I’m heavy m+!! Ravager boring looking 😭

[dense elbow]

Thane already overtook Slayer in M+ on the PTR, ppl just didnt play it much.

It is in raid Slayer had and prob still got a lead.

Ofc, you could argue that the Prio dam Slayer brings makes it worth more in M+, but based on live s2 atm, nobody cares about prio damage in a PuG world. So that is a moot point, and if you are doing a full premade - then it didnt matter either way.

Before they go off, dont worry, we are fine and can do +12s just fine and there will be some top notch players powering through and making sure Fury is represented in the higher brackets.

It is fine, and all that. Just hope you enjoy the taste of shit, as that is how you will feel as you get boosted in keys

[tepid cedar]

@edgy widget u run any asian math computational AI numbers yet with the buffs?

[modest condor]

Thane already overtook Slayer in M+ on the PTR, ppl just didnt play it much.

lolno

[limber oar]

Me when i lie

[modest condor]

you can see the prebuff numbers in #updates-midnight , thane was giga behind

[limber oar]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[modest condor]

(also that aoe sim was still with the 70% seismic bug so thane aoe was even worse)

[charred drum]

ty for the answer so we are in the same spot as S2
I'm gonna roll in a corner and cry

[dense elbow]

Yeah, dont cry tho

we still fun to play overall

just dont expect to perform exceptionally well

[sinful spoke]

may i recommend a diff roll?

re roll class to dk

💀

[charred drum]

getting some exp playing enhance for now

[dense elbow]

Also, remember to have that ignore button ready, for when ppl start cussing you out in /whisper or party after the 1st pull in the dung goes awry

Fun little sidenote, in the 18 bracket, ppl dont yell at me anymore. They whisper me comfort instead, like: "Don't worry, you would've destroyed the bosses" and so on. Its actually kinda wholesome

[dense fulcrum]

Wtb fury nerfs

[dense elbow]

Doesnt stop them from replacing you, as they do need that AoE pump. But it is a lot nicer

(I say need, want, is more the correct wording)

[charred drum]

when ppl start to get sorry for you, you know that blizzard fucked up

[dense elbow]

They know that overall in the dung, I wont be as far behind, and on bosses I do DPS. So they dont get angry, it is more a 'shit, this doesnt work with our setup', kind of deal

[modest condor]

thane actually competing with normal specs now

[dense elbow]

TB going ham, that is nice

[modest condor]

good thing there isnt a frost dk in the group

[dense fulcrum]

Idk i swapped to arms for 18-19 keys because every key i joined was a discussion with people about fury dps and from there only flame, kinda ruined my mental and enjoyment after a while.

But had this high copium of a fury rework instead they made frost broken

😂

[sinful spoke]

is that 22m dps or am i seeing things

[dense elbow]

What makes me sad tho, this means Slayer will be dead another season. As Thane works.

But - for 95% of Fury Warriors, this is a really neat thing to see

We take the good, over the bad

[hardy shuttle]

Just burst with it only being 800m total. Not like overall damage for a whole key

[dense elbow]

1st pull burst as always been our main issue tho

so us keeping up there, says a lot

[dense fulcrum]

Idk it depends a lot from many factors

[dense elbow]

Its a big difference in perception if we are doing half their DPS, or keeping up.

[dense fulcrum]

Issue is always there, we’re capped at 5

[dense elbow]

That isnt even a real issue, that is just tuning of our kit

Blast isnt even hardcapped

meh?

[dense fulcrum]

Ye but u can’t take in consideration a good 30 second pull in ptr where people play with feets

Is good to see but im realistic here

Spec is with two foot in the grave

[dense elbow]

If we are being realistic, we got to wait for final tuning

We dont know what will happen to the outliers

[modest condor]

i wouldnt even mind being slightly behind on overall if we can keep up on the lust pulls

[dense fulcrum]

I hope for something good because im tired

[modest condor]

at least it's better than what we have on live

[dense fulcrum]

For sure is something

[dense elbow]

Behind on overall, by 1-5% is fine. Current 10% behind on overall, and doing half's ppl AoE dam during the gigapull = ppl see that and never want to bring you again, as that "Fury is doing half my DPS" is seared into their neurons.

[hardy shuttle]

In aoe is it just enrage>TB>BT>rampage?

On ptr

[dense fulcrum]

If u play thane should be like that unless they changed something for rotation

Which probably they didn’t

[tepid cedar]

we did it, fuill bised out baby

[modest condor]

this was once they reached the first boss in gambit http://puu.sh/KxbvE/f9e69233be.png

so whole murloc area

[dense elbow]

Hey, nice, gz Apo

[limber oar]

Only 3 weeks before season end!

[tepid cedar]

fuck it

we still did it

lol

[dense elbow]

Mage kicking our ass, you with monk buff and him without his DH

8% buff needs to be increased to 12%

hurry blizz, gogo

[jolly parrot]

Thane ?

[dense elbow]

Maybe the 8% doesnt work correctly tho, it is the PTR Yeah, that is why it is like that

[dense fulcrum]

Fury warriors!

[pine gust]

Its 11% dmg difference from monk debuff vs lack of dh for Fury vs Mage/Lock lmao

[dense elbow]

Yeah, but its fine

because we do prio dam

or something

[bitter palm]

its fine we have 30% more hp or something

so its funny

[last frigate]

What made us suddenly competitve? The tier set change?

[bitter palm]

yes

[dense elbow]

Healer: You are functional immortal arent you?
Me: Yep.
Healer: ... impressive! Anyways, we need more AoE DPS, so off you fuck.

[modest condor]

yeah, it's that big

[pine gust]

Well you complete timed content by killing stuff, not living

[bitter palm]

tell that to df seasons

[dense elbow]

Maybe this season will be walled off by damage intake, and in a way where it isnt a race to AoE blast everything down before we die

Could happen

you never know

[pine gust]

Right, could be

[bitter palm]

i mean still a few outliers

tuning isnt done

[dense elbow]

You guys better put me on wellness check watch in S3, if Slayer doesnt get some giga M+ help

This season got me shreded to the bone

S1 took my skin and fat, S2 taken the muscles and soon into the bonemarrow. There is only so much mass in a human body that can be turned into copium

[pine gust]

Yup, I quit S1 after fury was nerfed to the ground in m+ due to being op add killer in raid, S2 had to play BM for the group and now I will be doing 6-7% less damage if I dont have monk in party. Fun stuff

[edgy widget]

no problem, I have the ignore button ready

[dense elbow]

Love you too bud

[dense fulcrum]

😂

[pine gust]

update, finished dung, we are so back

[eternal sundial]

Beat the tank raaahhhh

[storm birch]

I like thane I wish it somehow played well with bladestorm. I guess ravager is chill idk

[eternal sundial]

[dense elbow]

Not 7-8m range yet?

That seems wrong, you prob had a bad key

[storm birch]

And that’s with the 8% MT change?

[dense elbow]

Thane was 7-8 before the tierset change, so I expected a bigger bump up

[pine gust]

Idk honestly, he could have died, dont take this seriously

[storm birch]

And Vers buff. Pump boi pump!!!

[sullen dove]

yes thane definitely 7-8 before the tier set

I like making up numbers

and dungeons are also def all the same

[radiant plank]

with monk buff btw

[dense elbow]

To be fair, if there was a shaman instead of a mage - we talking decent levels soon

[sullen dove]

could also see by the name it’s danwarr who’s streaming rn can give him a gander as he plays

[edgy widget]

how is this the whole dungeon when he was already at 3.43b by first boss?

[storm birch]

Are ptr servers up in NA? Ima run to my pc if so

[edgy widget]

those numbers ain't numbering

[storm birch]

Time to try this

[modest condor]

nah that was a new run, his screenshot is after the first boss

[winter shoal]

Don't ask questions, just doom

[sullen dove]

clearly all mobs after first boss are 5% of the hp as the start

[edgy widget]

after the first boss still isn't a whole dungeon lol

[dense elbow]

It is, if that is where the dungeon ended

[edgy widget]

that's not finishing, that's quitting

[pine gust]

Oh didnt even realise, just looked at the meter by popping into stream

[edgy widget]

how it feels to spread misinformation...

[pine gust]

Not good mister

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893

[pine gust]

Im glad there are smarter people that correct me

[sullen dove]

was that still gambit u took the ss from

[storm birch]

If I can get on this damn ptr I’ll get some intel

[pine gust]

Dan streams rn, check right panel

[dense elbow]

Warlocks and Mages do be looking good tho, their DPS is solid and that without a DH buff to prop it up

I am happy for em

[sullen dove]

unless lower level key seems either the other two did waaaay more single target dmg on boss combined with a bit more of an edge on the aoe or they just idk procced insane and did more aoe than warr

[eternal sundial]

You must not be in the know

[eternal sundial]

Joel @sullen dove

[glad coyote]

anybody not get their belt upgrade item?

[dense elbow]

I havent, why?

[glad coyote]

like from the question today

unless its capped at 701

[tepid cedar]

haha we finaly back to 691 charged bolts level haha

[dense elbow]

Yoooo, Amazon just sabotaged warrior. Dan was 7m overall, right, and then I got an add with monkeys in it, and after... he 6.7m

It is bezos, that is why warrior is bad

[pine gust]

Dammit bezos

And how much mage/lock had?

[dense elbow]

8-9m, but that isn unimportant

they dont have monk buff after all

[sullen dove]

Yes 701 should be the end I believe

[edgy widget]

it is

[pine gust]

What if we buff touch to give 15%?

[dense elbow]

Sounds acceptable

[sullen dove]

We get nerfed more later

Would make things much worse

Monk just becomes the aug of physical classes

[dense elbow]

Nerf Fury aura by 10%, but buff Monk buff by 12%

[sullen dove]

They been sayin they want a new support spec

w shit

[summer quail]

when have they said that?

[pine gust]

That would be support class

[summer quail]

and i assume "they" is blizzard. coz i know some people here want bannerman warrior

which pls no

[sullen dove]

idk somethin bout aug not being the only one of its kind maybe

[dense elbow]

They said it indirectly, by buffing the buff, or you could say, they buffed the augmention power of Monk - if you will

[sullen dove]

could also just be from players me thinking of either way aug is still a dumpster

[flat river]

Shout warrior u mean

[pine gust]

I was so disappointed when I learned the most warrior-like covenant made us support from Temu

[summer quail]

coz i've not seen blizzard saying they want another support

[south kayak]

What’s this misinformation

[eternal sundial]

You must not be in the know..

[south kayak]

[dense elbow]

I just want to point this out:
If mage and warlock was AP% DPS, the warrior value would be top tier in the group.

Actually balanced

[winter shoal]

How do these screenshots have fewer pixels each time

[pine gust]

Dan stereams in 720 unless you have premium or something

[dense elbow]

It is still kinda gnawing in the back of my head that Warrior got monk buff, mage/warlock got no DH buff

[tepid cedar]

whats was his ST dmg vs them though

[dense elbow]

8% swing

[storm birch]

anyone know how PTR works? It keeps saying no realms. Is it a special access thing?

[summer quail]

2 ptrs. must have downloaded the wrong one

[storm birch]

oh

[tawny pivot]

Hey. Mountain King gonna be meta yet or should I pass on my dorf this season aswell?

[storm birch]

must be the classic era one

[dense elbow]

Double check you not using the wrong version :v

[olive wraith]

Warrior won’t be meta

[summer quail]

what do you mean by meta?

[dense elbow]

you want 11.2

[olive wraith]

But thane is looking good

[dense elbow]

wait another month, and we can maybe give a closer to valuable answer

[tawny pivot]

As in raiding, ST business where I won't feel bad gimping myself in ST

Aha well okay

[winter shoal]

Thane is probably going to be good on one, maybe two fights in raid

Slayer on the rest

[olive wraith]

Slayer looks pretty good for raid

[tawny pivot]

meh screw slayer

[winter shoal]

Slayer is very mid in raid with current tuning but that's ofc subject to change

[tawny pivot]

I just wanna get the new datamined dorf mogs, go mountain king and hit stuff

[dense elbow]

Even with the monkbuff change?

[tiny jewel]

Can't they just give us 8 cap. Heck didn't they just nerf Slayer this week?

[dense elbow]

What nerf are you thinking of, Ryke? For M+ we kinda got a "buff" in the (4) change

[tiny jewel]

The tier set took a hit for slayer i believe

[dense elbow]

For m+ ya gained a bit of dam, for sure. On pure ST, perhaps a very minor 0.x loss?

[tiny jewel]

Nothing gigantic i think 20% to 10% on something. Yeah

[dense elbow]

Ye, but the reap proc got buffed, dont forget that

[storm birch]

Hmm still using the right one. Ima uninstall and reinstall it. Odd.