fury

[brittle crow]

what are we thinking
fun detected?

that's what im thinking

[olive wraith]

Shhhhhh

Don’t say it

[south kayak]

The reset is intentional

[brittle crow]

rip the bandaid off now accept that we don't get to keep this

[modest condor]

4set procs definitely reset the cooldown of tblast

[south kayak]

You can’t make that accidental lol

[tiny estuary]

buff doesn't = better?

[olive wraith]

You say that

[quiet breach]

gonna be spamming keys as prot until I get 4 PC then spamming keys as fury

[brittle crow]

bro they made brm cooldown reset on dave 60 seconds per proc

[untold moth]

Wait... the 4p triggers... a 4p?

[brittle crow]

they can do whatever the f they want

accidentally

[quiet breach]

thunder blast is the coolest warrior ability I am so hyped to press it alot

[woven valley]

I’m glad the tier got some love cause thane was looking rough

[quiet breach]

u were hitting dummy alot right? are u finding urself constantly pressing TB or is it just like, slightly more @young swan @slim coral

or one of y'all was hitting dummy

[brittle crow]

don't say i didn't warn u all. it's gone before launch

[inland flame]

It's a lot more, really noticable

[young swan]

ive only tested slayer so far

might do some thane key testing tonight

[untold moth]

The new tier reads like 2p should trigger a 4p, and that 4p tb should still only have a 35% chance at the 2p proc

[quiet breach]

if it turns out to be OP I hope they just nerf it instead of rework again

I wanna press TB broooo

[turbid bay]

How many cpm is this change taking us too in 5 target

[south kayak]

Does the cleave thing work?

[turbid bay]

Compared to current

[young swan]

no idea havent tested yet today

[dense elbow]

it does not, 22 RBs, 1 reap proc, all cleaved

[olive wraith]

Can someone ping me when Archi updates the numbers

[dense elbow]

but then I can be extremely unlucky

we talking reap after all

[sturdy zodiac]

ok

[inland flame]

lol Ragiing Blow is so dead lolol

[olive wraith]

Good

Delete rb

[thick fossil]

and I never said it was going to over take slayer, just that they wanted to make Thane ST not complete dog shit. lol for once.

[olive wraith]

Bring back anni

[thick fossil]

please no... anni was awful

[inland flame]

Just hit the aoe target dummies for like 3 mins and barely touched RB, feelsgoodman

[turbid bay]

Thane st last tier was not that bad

[chilly fractal]

Bring back Anni!

[turbid bay]

Colossus arms however

[south kayak]

I think they don’t want to completely abandon BT as slayer so they’re gonna leave RB like this so it doesn’t cleave reap

[edgy widget]

the way you phrased it seemed to imply that, so I was clarifying. Also Slayer wasn't really nerfed, the Reap buff compensates (mostly a gameplay change to try to get us to still want to press BT)

but yes, it seems likely that they're dialing in sets first, and will then throw out some aura changes to get individual specs where they want them

[south kayak]

I wonder if they’re going to buff BT

[turbid bay]

Aura changes feel so lazy

[south kayak]

This isn’t really enough of a change to use BT instead of RB, is it?

[thick fossil]

it's because it is

[untold moth]

Personally I think having either bt or rb being a filler and the other being a crit spender felt great in S2 DF

[thick fossil]

It's basically, "here, deal with it."

[south kayak]

What else are they gonna do lol

[turbid bay]

Its like we tried cant make it work

[south kayak]

That’s how tuning works

[thick fossil]

I would really love for BT crits to always proc reap.

[inland flame]

Getting like 5.3 mil TBlast crits in level 700ish gear feels pretty good

I like how reactive it is too

[turbid bay]

Also i thought the reap only was buffed on the rb proc

Not the natural bt way

[inland flame]

Inizing Strikes were critting for about 2mil

[south kayak]

Each?

[south kayak]

Isn’t that like almost 8m per 5 ionizing strikes

[deep sapphire]

Is there a potential for Mountain Thane to compete with Slayer in pure ST boss fights now?

[south kayak]

Unlikely

[turbid bay]

Nope

And it shouldnt tbh

[inland flame]

Yeah everyone's dam is going way way up this patch

[south kayak]

But that’s not what they want

And that’s completely fine

[deep sapphire]

I assume that we won’t be trolling now though with the changes to run Fury in Keys instead of Arms with the changes though?

[inland flame]

This is obviously a massive cleave buff from before, so I'm hoping

[untold moth]

Threat issues incoming!!!

It's like OF all over again

[turbid bay]

Will see i guess. Heard pulls still very large this season

[south kayak]

It’s been clear that they want thane to be the aoe/m+ spec and slayer a raid/ST one

[turbid bay]

So hoping target cap doesnt weigh us down

[frigid zealot]

Likely less threat than ripping bladestorm

[olive wraith]

Tb isn’t hard capped

[south kayak]

Rare Fishy sighing in fury

[inland flame]

So much cleave dam is getting worked into Blast, it should at least feel a lot better

[turbid bay]

Oh itsnt it thats kinda pog then

[frigid zealot]

Blast owns

[bitter palm]

blast FUCKS

twtv bazefacee

[south kayak]

Blessed name change

[bitter palm]

watch king play

[south kayak]

[frigid zealot]

We dreamed of a thane tier back in alpha

[inland flame]

Ya Blast is around 1/3 of your dam on 5 targets right now, its a lot

[turbid bay]

I just want to blast

[frigid zealot]

Might actually happen

[bitter palm]

clappa

[olive wraith]

I’d like to thank that one DK main posting on the forums

[deep sapphire]

I don’t know why but I always just see an electrified question mark in the thunderblast icon.

[south kayak]

What about a single target

[south kayak]

ME TOO

[alpine steppe]

Mountain Thane backers?

[untold moth]

Feel like TB been a question mark since vanilla

[inland flame]

Gimme a minute I hit a dummy for a while but BT was massive because of

[indigo arch]

Fml was hoping slayer would pass thane in m+

Fuck ravager

[inland flame]

ig if you're curious that's the breakdown from 2ish mins in range

[fleet pasture]

4% rb feels good

[inland flame]

just mindlessly prioing BT too for more Blasts

[indigo arch]

W/e, fury buffs are fury buffs

[dense elbow]

That dream was dead a long time ago

[indigo arch]

Fury on ptr still ass though? Don't have access rn

[inland flame]

It feels good, at least

[deep sapphire]

All we need is Odyn’s Fury back and we could maybe hit high A to bottom S tier.

[marble pilot]

I just looked. Thane good now?

[indigo arch]

Odyn back and ra change reverted

Because as of right now zero reason to be RA in key

[olive wraith]

Boo you

[marble pilot]

That clip makes thane look saved. Or at least very fun.

[indigo arch]

I spent years with no bladestorm as fury

[inland flame]

lol I can't find a target dummy to hit that isn't in range

I'm just gonna untalent it

[charred estuary]

I feel this pain man

[olive wraith]

Spent years with no smf either. You want that?

[oblique thistle]

Really curious to see how thane performs now in aoe

[charred estuary]

Take me back to double uncapped bladestorm in 9.2 man

[storm birch]

Thane doesn’t get buffed from mystic touch right ?

[jolly marten]

how the f did frost dks skipped nerfs?

[storm birch]

Sorry TB* not thane

[charred estuary]

It does

[indigo arch]

Why does a stupid meme talent have to do with BLADESTORM?

[south kayak]

It does. It’s physical and nature

[storm birch]

Lit

Thanks

Bouta zap everything big dmg

[olive wraith]

It’s something we haven’t played in years

[indigo arch]

Ravager defense force

[deep sapphire]

I miss old RA, it was nice to have Bloodthirst and Raging Blow to have about the same priority.

[narrow fossil]

Is this a buff or a nerf? Slayer

Manaforge Omega 4-set bonus updated – Overpower/Raging Blow damage increased by 10% (was 20%), and the triggered Reap the Storm is at 150% effectiveness (was 100%).

[olive wraith]

I just think thane is cooler

[olive wraith]

#updates-midnight

[bitter palm]

clappa > all

[olive wraith]

[untold moth]

Ravager is based, gotta remeber how old and duct taped together this 20 yo game is when it starts spinning away on ceiling geometry

[south kayak]

The reset of TB leading to chaining them is the real winner of the thane set buffs

[deep sapphire]

Mountain Thane is perfect for me because I’m so dummy thicc that I can’t sneak around because the clap of my ass cheeks alert the guards.

[dense elbow]

A tiny nerf to ST, but basically cowered by the Reap buff. The reap buff is a tiny buff to some random AoE cleave. Bonus, pushing execute over RB makes a tiny bit more sense thanks to this

Ofc, you the highroll gamba gamba, or lowroll gamba gamba can hit. So that is, fun.

[south kayak]

[narrow fossil]

what is gamba gamba?

[dense elbow]

Either reap procs, or it doensnt. Does it do it so twice, thrice, or not at all?

Who knows

[south kayak]

I’ve been so hyped about the thane buff I forgot to sleep

[dense elbow]

let the dice roll

[brittle crow]

i love gambling

[dense elbow]

This is what we want to see

[sharp bluff]

for MT, are we basically using TB on cd if we have 2 stacks?

[south kayak]

Always

[narrow fossil]

gamba in my mother tongue means prawn

[south kayak]

With the next season. You wanna press TB like your life depends on it

[dense elbow]

More you know

[storm birch]

Sheesh I had faith and it paid off!! They called me crazy!!

🙏

[inland flame]

So it looks like you can get chain procs of Blast (as in go from 0 stacks to 2) but you only get the reset once so you can't spam them. It might have been a BT proc at the same time tho hard to tell.

[bitter palm]

based

[south kayak]

This is actually a better solution than the tier set some of us came up with

This one is more exciting

[tiny estuary]

this might be the most anticipated log update ever

[modest condor]

i think you just got a bt proc but it's worth testing some more

[inland flame]

Yeah can't even recall if it was during Rav tbh

[untold moth]

It's also kinda crazy for modern wow for a tier set to just be like... only press one button now

[south kayak]

Procs 5 ionizing strikes, each doing 1m hit, not to mention lightning strike

It’s insane

[south kayak]

ST?

[inland flame]

That was the breakdown just sending current spec into 1 target

For like 2.5 mins or sumn

Also doing everything possible to maximize Blast usage

[brittle crow]

incoming emergency patch

[inland flame]

And no

[south kayak]

Roar damage looks sad lol

I wonder if spear is better

[sharp bluff]

dumb question: so guide says to TB while enraged, should I be TB twice in a row if I am in enraged or just simplify this to TB on cd when you have 2 charges in ST and AOE?

[inland flame]

I tried spear too and didn't notice a big diff

[tiny estuary]

Fresh Meat is back

[inland flame]

But I am probably playing it very suboptimally

[south kayak]

We’ve come a long way

First iteration of thane set

[untold moth]

In b4 blizzard is like we meant 4p to be on TR not TB

[oblique thistle]

Stark improvement no doubt but I'm not sold entirely on it yet
I need to see the AOE dam first

[tight idol]

Wouldn’t spear make thunder blasts do more dmg?

[south kayak]

Bazed did a ptr run

[oblique thistle]

I will watch then

[south kayak]

Thunder blast was easily number one in aoe

By far

[oblique thistle]

That doesn't shock me (get it)

[narrow fossil]

He has twitch channel?

[south kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-thor-infinity-war-gif-25139201

[inland flame]

The Spear breackdown is basically exactly the same as the Roar one but yea the max crits are a little higher

[south kayak]

This is what thunder blast feels like

[lyric panther]

Is this ST rotation correct?

[modest condor]

it can be

[chilly fractal]

Rampage

[south kayak]

TB on PTR

[inland flame]

You forgor BT to get more

[south kayak]

If you’re giga lucky, yea

[inland flame]

Yeah playing the way I did on ST BT, Ramp, and Blast were about 83-ish% of my damage

[south kayak]

I’m glad they fixed the seismic reverb bug now lol

[inland flame]

Counting Lighting Strikes generally and Ionizing Strikes as a part of Blast ofc

[south kayak]

[oblique thistle]

So now do you just send BT always to fish for blast?

[south kayak]

I’d say so

[narrow fossil]

worse than the tank

[south kayak]

No way you’re gonna press RB instead of BT

BT on CD basically

[inland flame]

Also maybe this stupid thing has a reason to exist now:

[jolly marten]

the colossus arms nerf tho...

[south kayak]

Yeah lol

[olive wraith]

It’s more a prot nerf

Arms caught a stray

[jolly marten]

like why?

[olive wraith]

Cause prot is huge lol

[inland flame]

As is tradition

[modest condor]

arms is king catching strays

[jolly marten]

i mean why not change it just for prot?

like we have to work now and shit

who cares nerf them all

[smoky scaffold]

he died a bunch

but it's pretty good st but still not great aoe but def better

[south kayak]

Bm def still giga bugged/ overtuned

They keep nerfing stampede and it’s still broken

[narrow fossil]

warr still doing less dmg than monk tank

[south kayak]

Ok

[smoky scaffold]

it's not it's doing more

[jolly marten]

from the test ive done so far

[smoky scaffold]

just deadge

[jolly marten]

still the capp is felt

[bitter palm]

best spec in the game at catching strays

[jolly marten]

but at least in 5 targets we pump for real

[bitter palm]

baze was doing damage

in 16 halls

[narrow fossil]

how is his twitch channel?

[bitter palm]

twtv bazefacee

[olive wraith]

[bitter palm]

while being afk half the key reading chat as well

and having an ass healer

[south kayak]

Idk what this is but bm isn’t doing normal damage so idk if we can really test properly lol

[bitter palm]

and tank dying randomly

[junior gale]

Ja Clappa sure is Clappa

[bitter palm]

finally

it claps

[south kayak]

Testing your damage in m+ with a bm is a bad time

Idk how they’re still insane after getting their tier set nerfed 3 times

And those aren’t tiny number nerfs

50% and 35%

[modest condor]

ja clappa

[south kayak]

Ja nerf BM

[inland flame]

https://tenor.com/view/i-started-blasting-so-anyway-i-started-blasting-danny-devito-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-blasting-gif-24425727

[fleet pasture]

frank is a dk main

[south kayak]

He is howling blasting

[red berry]

the 100%

has made thunder blast feel more like an actual button

[dapper goblet]

isnt fair...

warrior lightning buffed but shaman lightning shot in head..

[south kayak]

Sad for our lightning brothers

[sinful spoke]

ghmm

looks like

i was right again

[south kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-thor-infinity-war-gif-25139201

[sinful spoke]

warrior nerfed agane

💀

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/monsters-vs-aliens-bob-funny-shocked-shook-gif-4861342645729883333

[south kayak]

Who’s warrior

[bitter palm]

good

deserved for killing necro fury

[red berry]

true

[south kayak]

Can’t be happy about our lightning brothers suffering..

[lyric panther]

playing it on a dummy you do occasionally get zero ionizing procs for like 30 gcds

[red berry]

the proc rate is stiill ass

[south kayak]

People still remember this lol

[red berry]

which frankly they should just nerf the damage and up the proc rate

[bitter palm]

ofc

never forget

[thick fossil]

Jesus, ppl really got the grudge for necro fury. Lol

[bitter palm]

ofc

forever

[fading geyser]

i miss drought of souls

[inland flame]

f Legion Recklessness

[south kayak]

Battle Cry *

[bitter palm]

balls cry

battle ballshd

[woven valley]

100 percent crit every minute was baller as fuck iirc that is

[dapper goblet]

you tardies would be in more tears than you are now

[inland flame]

Yeah that's what made Draught so imba for us is we could set it up for all the ticks to guarantee crit

[dapper goblet]

if you had to play that

[opaque crag]

Oh yeah, I forgot they pointlessly renamed Reck back then lol

[bitter palm]

[south kayak]

There’s nothing reckless about recklessness

[bitter palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1170378356588552214/1356783118308212896/attachment.gif

[south kayak]

My phones keyboard is extra dumb recently

Autocorrect not even working properly

[nocturne plaza]

how much does reworked tier help fury thane?

[olive wraith]

Yes

[young swan]

quite a bit yeah

[olive wraith]

No numbers yet

[nocturne plaza]

big enough for fury to be somewhat comp?

[young swan]

competitive sure

def not meta

solidly b-tier most likely

[olive wraith]

Phys comp buff

[red berry]

blast actually feels more like an AoE button imo

which ii mean thats not to downplay it but its never felt

particularly great to me

[nocturne plaza]

better than f tier

[echo rapids]

Boys are we back!?!?

[junior gale]

yeah totally

[echo rapids]

I love thunderblast tbh I’m ok with this

[opaque crag]

There's no way to tell until S3 drops, but things are looking up. Personally, I would've loved to see our AOE uncapped, but hey. Baby steps?

[south kayak]

Did you guys see the damage breakdown of thane prot lol

[red berry]

is thane prot nasty rn

[modest condor]

no but i saw thane fury

[nocturne plaza]

truthfully fury just needs an uncap or a soft cap

[olive wraith]

Let’s hope prot stays col

[south kayak]

[olive wraith]

So we don’t catch strays

[red berry]

honestly demolish is hard to beat

colossus tierset is really big

the nerf wasn't big enough to change that fact

[echo rapids]

lol WHAT

[olive wraith]

45% blast

Lmao

[echo rapids]

Warrior threat will NOT be an issue

But that can’t stay

[south kayak]

I mean it’s usually the case for thane prot though

This isn’t unusual

They spam it the most

[red berry]

thunder cclap being made 8 targets for fury would probably still be too much but considering its the button idk

[olive wraith]

Tb isn’t hard capped

[echo rapids]

Isn’t it like 30% right now for prot? Not that anyone plays it

[south kayak]

I guess

[echo rapids]

I guess they went with the “make us actually good at 5t” option for m+

[south kayak]

Some people are saying thane is more damage while colossus is tankier

On prot chanel

[echo rapids]

I thought thane was tankier due to more rage and IP spam

[edgy widget]

TBlast isn’t really 5 target

It’s soft capped the same way cleave is

[echo rapids]

Seems like the most logical way to buff our aoe damage in m+ then

Or maybe the simplest

[torpid elbow]

what does that put on like A+ now

us*

[junior gale]

TIER LIST I cant understand unless you put it in a tier last format

[jolly marten]

it put us to B

[junior gale]

ARE WE A S F O P Q RT

[jolly marten]

we actually are a dps now, not a tank dmg dps

[torpid elbow]

ok now i wont reroll to dk because of waht im seeing\

we needed this fucking love

[jolly marten]

guys the capp is still real, first pulls on streets with the murlocs i was way behind to bm hunter and demolock

after that pulls i catched up

[bitter palm]

gambit u mean

ye i mean fury is still capped obviously but i hope we fuck at 5t

[olive wraith]

[bitter palm]

im fine with that

[olive wraith]

Idk how many TB we getting per pull

[echo rapids]

Apparently enough that we barely cast RB

[olive wraith]

Then I’d hardly call us 5t capped now

[jolly marten]

still not in the level Arcane mage capped spec, but they got nerfed, im not sure

dont forget that also arcane is soft capped at 5

[frank dawn]

their's is quite a bit different from ours though, when they hit 5 targets it makes them do giga damage to the main one

where we just get to hit 5 targets lol

[echo rapids]

Yeah like Archie said if TB is a huge chunk of our damage now then we are a lot closer to arms cleave

[jolly marten]

they too suffer tho to the meters

on big pulls

[olive wraith]

They also still have funnel

So obviously gonna be better than us. But still

[bitter palm]

ye but u dont bring an arcane for overall damage

u bring arcane for funnel

[proven stream]

just play phys comp

we're there for shout

[olive wraith]

Phys comp looking good for reals

[dense elbow]

Watching arcane make that prio target melt in 10 sec, instead of 45 with you on the job... Its magical

[olive wraith]

No copium

[proven stream]

We just aren't prio dmg, gotta bring someone else in the comp for that

[echo rapids]

Does the slayer change affect the RB spam?

[olive wraith]

? We do have prio damage in keys

[smoky vale]

prio damage is fake news when you do tank damage

[proven stream]

I don't think we're high on the list when building a comp and u want prio dmg

[inland flame]

Good news! We don't do tank damage (until the packs get huge enough).

[bitter palm]

then u do n->arms

and on low pulls n->fury prolly

[oblique thistle]

Blizzard buffs thane tier massively: "GUYS WE'RE SO BACK"
wait a couple of hours
back to dooming

[olive wraith]

Bruh we’re not hard capped anymore and yall still dooming

Lmao

[edgy widget]

Still needs to be evaluated, I’m thinking probably no, but we’ll see

[sullen tendon]

I will accept nothing less than a rework and I’ll still criticize them if they fuck it up

[sturdy trench]

This might be a dumb question. But does the cookie cutter Thane mythic + spec change at all on 11.2?

[woven valley]

We aren’t prio damage or aoe damage, we’re emotional support damage doers

[sturdy trench]

very consistent emotional support dps lol

[olive wraith]

How are we not prio?

I’m confused

[inland flame]

I think people are just memeing a bit too hard about our damage

[olive wraith]

I don’t even want a rework. I like our playstyle

[hallow sphinx]

🎣

[sturdy trench]

I want a button that feels good though. but i do like the kit

[olive wraith]

Tb doesn’t feel good?

[fluid pollen]

Same please just tune us up

[olive wraith]

What button feels good to press to you on other classes

[slim coral]

it's pretty much constantly well almost sometimes you go without proc but a lot of the times it felt like I got 4 TB procs in a row

[sturdy trench]

I want a strong cap stone talent

[sullen dove]

pyre merchant

[inland flame]

Templar's Hammer of Light feels good. I like Slicing Winds on Monk. Not one button but casting the 3 combo to make your Mark explode on Arcane Mage. There are things out there.

Oh Ascendance on Ele Sham is some dopamine.

[olive wraith]

Do you like demolish?

[sturdy trench]

yeah

but even then it has its problems

[inland flame]

At least it won't cancel next patch

Almost ever

[bitter palm]

ye it will just miss

[olive wraith]

I mean I don’t think we need a capstone that’s an actual spell

[inland flame]

Bro just leap during the channel if stuff moves skill issue

[sturdy trench]

Like a wake of ashes into Hammer of light. That feels explosive

[inland flame]

I mean Demolish definitely feels good. I've gotten like 50mil Demos before, hard to complain.

[bitter palm]

demolish into a collat cleave

[sturdy trench]

I mean this is the Fury channel lol

[inland flame]

The amount of setup is a headache and the root can be stressful but ye.

[bitter palm]

welcome to skyhold

[rigid stirrup]

dont worry arms and fury swapping spec chats for a bit

[inland flame]

I think double-Blasting by using a natty proc into Avatar is pretty kino

[rigid stirrup]

also setup is not hard with demolish

objectively

[inland flame]

Back-to-back Blasts will happen a lot more often with this set, too.

[slim coral]

Yes

[sturdy trench]

Does anyone feel good pushing Ravager? or Thunderour Roar?

[olive wraith]

So s1 of

[slim coral]

Now all they gotta do is buff some capstones

and we're good

[plucky wedge]

MT should hopefully be pretty strong on ptr yeah now right?

[bitter palm]

i heard tierset resets tc cd

when u get a tblast proc

[slim coral]

Yes

[bitter palm]

peak

[slim coral]

Did you see the clip

[bitter palm]

DONT change it

blizzard

[sturdy trench]

are those changes that came out today on PTR?

[slim coral]

https://www.twitch.tv/bazefacee/clip/LachrymosePricklyWormNomNom-exD_1KJfJH6pO7v4

Here is the clip Xan took

[rigid stirrup]

Hopefully once the dust is settleled both M+ specs are good so I dont have to swap to one past x key level

[slim coral]

I did get a quad reset at some point

[bitter palm]

nice unenraged tblast

[rigid stirrup]

those resets go hard

[slim coral]

tre

true

[inland flame]

Yeah after playing it on PTR earlier today I'm actually really pumped for Thane now

[bitter palm]

surely bt spam is the way in aoe

to fish for tblast

then hope for resets

[slim coral]

yeah that's what I did

but also the tank was kinda trolling

[bitter palm]

ye i watched some of it

3rd boss looks tough

but also ur healer was trolling

[inland flame]

Raging Blow feels pretty dead as Thane atm coffin dance

[proven stream]

How was overall at end of key

[rigid stirrup]

I hope this means we'll go absolutly crazy in phys comps

[bitter palm]

good

[bitter palm]

doubt its better than arms ngl

[proven stream]

Tb doesn't benefit from mystic touch does it?

[inland flame]

There's talk of Brew being really good in 11.2 maybe that helps Warr fit into a really good phys comp

DPS Warr

[bitter palm]

it does

its stormstrike

[plucky wedge]

what build you go for?

on ptr

[proven stream]

Yay 👍

[plucky wedge]

the usual?

[inland flame]

I haven't messed around a lot I just ran our normal Thane build that we use rn

[sturdy trench]

I dont think anything changed with the spec

sorry didn't mean to reply to that

[slim coral]

couldnt finidh key cause tank

[plucky wedge]

what are the good trinkets on ptr unyielding netherprism and what else?

pacemaker?

[low folio]

I honestly didn’t think they would make the mountain thane tier good but that new change has gotta be a decent buff

[tawdry osprey]

Waiting to see if it's an unintended bug before I get excited.

[sturdy trench]

just hitting the bag at the dummies.

[torpid elbow]

is this on ptr?

[sturdy trench]

yeah

[torpid elbow]

looking good

[sturdy trench]

I was prioing TB slightly but i casually kept enrage up

[torpid elbow]

how do you get on ptr?

[turbid bay]

Gonna be a weird spot for us going into next patch. Thane will still be eh until 4p

[bitter palm]

which is like

week 2

[turbid bay]

Yeh

Think ill just play colossus week 1

And swap if thane is good

[bitter palm]

colossus is even bigger

tierset

[turbid bay]

Oh for sure after get the tier set just planning on what im doing going into m+ week

[torpid elbow]

i might play frost dk havent made up my mind

[sturdy trench]

TB was critting for 6.5M. I think thats pretty good

idk why i keep accidently replying. my bad lol

[turbid bay]

All g

[azure coyote]

It's thundering time

[frozen lake]

Well it's such a bad design for the only reason we are good to be a tier set but hey

We'll take it

[sturdy trench]

lets be honest. we'll probably get nerfed on it cause "a 4P shouldn't be that strong"

[olive wraith]

Our 4p before this tuning only have 4%

[low folio]

I mean it’s probably gonna only make fury be around arms in aoe dps

[olive wraith]

Not even close

Thane st is way behind

[low folio]

Ya I relooked at the numbers

Deleted that comment

[olive wraith]

Thane does have better st than Col though

[bitter palm]

i mean what matters is thane m+ st vs slayer m+ st

[delicate yacht]

is this real

[olive wraith]

Tier lists are mostly based on opinion of people who don’t play every spec at the top level

[sullen dove]

chat is this real

1 single tier list

[olive wraith]

You can safely ignore them

But also a there was tuning today

[slim coral]

not anymore

I will test more tomorrow but pretty sure fury is atleast A now

assuming you have monk

[hallow sphinx]

nah its F-

[inland flame]

Doomers vs hopium huffers FIGHT

[hallow sphinx]

🎣

[bitter palm]

yes

very really

real

[bitter palm]

bro

this set fucks

[sullen dove]

A is crazy

[bitter palm]

so hard on dummies

[bitter palm]

dont forget

[sullen dove]

w 5target dummies

[echo rapids]

More like it claps

BLASTS even

[bitter palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1394446784373325935/image.png?ex=6876d744&is=687585c4&hm=ce48e70831357b891ac6357f0604feb7da3ab2f01305adcd67dd0124e3ed561c&

chatting

[snow edge]

If it ends up lower than A Baze is in real trouble

[slim coral]

True

[slim coral]

I mean dps is looking good tho

theres just busted classes

which will get nerfed

[bitter palm]

what trinkets are u playing on ptr

[snow edge]

Personally responsible for our class’s future

[bitter palm]

im playing delve haste and netherprism

[sullen dove]

dps looking good

[slim coral]

seaforium

[sullen dove]

bosses easy

[modest condor]

basically the tierset is probably too strong if you compared it to other tiersets but it's necessary to make fury not absolute garbage in m+ so either they keep it like this or they nerf the tierset and compensate buff baseline thane (realistically they'll just nerf the tierset and leave it at that)

[slim coral]

and the haste one that looks like a mask

[orchid dagger]

The only ones worth a shit, the Gladiator ones

[sullen dove]

is that a copypasta or did he type that real

[bitter palm]

he did

[slim coral]

if they nerf this fun I will be pissed

[bitter palm]

ye the delve one

that shit gonna explode

[echo rapids]

Organic for sure

[sullen dove]

sounds organic

[proven stream]

Numbers aside what spec and hero tree seems to be the play for new raid?

[sullen dove]

real spill

[modest condor]

the nerf could just be to the damage of ionizing strikes or the buff to tblast if you get a proc

[slim coral]

or how about bring up the cds to it

[bitter palm]

nah dont nerf the tblast dmg

[young swan]

slayer for most bosses, thane for like 2 or 3 max

[marble pilot]

How are the numbers? It looks great but I'm out of town and can't try it

[raw magnet]

Big brain take, single minded fury viable now because autoattacks apply enrage=thunderblast one button rotation

[modest condor]

tblast is doing like 30% of your damage in m+

[proven stream]

Any arms angle?

[young swan]

maybe arms for 2nd last?

[slim coral]

the tier set itself is busted

ngl

but is needed

as thane has no other damage

source

[young swan]

theres like a couple bosses that seem good for arms but tuning is wacky so its hard to tell

[echo rapids]

It doesn’t really matter where the balance comes from

[proven stream]

Like actually much better than fury on that boss or negligible

[fiery edge]

so we're back?

[young swan]

its just an execute burn

it'll be preferable but not make or break

[slim coral]

playstyle wise yes

[proven stream]

Okay

[slim coral]

the thane tier set is goated

[marble pilot]

But is it really. Like what is the numbers. Cause I've seen people hitting 50m on ptr

[slim coral]

once tuning actually happens fury will probably be very good

[fiery edge]

thane

[echo rapids]

If you like tbunderblast we are back

[slim coral]

tuning isn't what matters rn

[bitter palm]

which u do

CLAPPA

[slim coral]

they havent tuned any classes

[raw magnet]

It will now do 100% of my damage in single minded fury spec

[young swan]

its just really sick and has a good gain, tuning is fuckeroni and cheesed

[fiery edge]

how's it doing in ptr now after set buff?

[slim coral]

rn on ptr you want to focus on playstyle more than dps

[raw magnet]

everything dies zugzug

[young swan]

fdk and feral are doing like 10m overall

[sinful spoke]

baze

[slim coral]

yo

[proven stream]

So if MT fury survives tuning it could be better than colo arms for keys?

[sinful spoke]

choose for me

[slim coral]

it could be yes

[sinful spoke]

new dh spec alt or frost dk alt

[young swan]

yeah

ferl

feral

[slim coral]

I didnt really check 5 target daamage

[young swan]

play feral

[slim coral]

but I felt like I was slamming the ads with thunder blast

[sinful spoke]

there will 100% be a new dh spec btw im leaking

[slim coral]

didn't really check healthbars tho

[sinful spoke]

i just dont know if itll be fun

[echo rapids]

DH for sure

[proven stream]

Too late I'm committed to war for phys comp and I don't think anyone wants to play feral in my grp

[slim coral]

on the 5 target dummies I was able to sustain 12M

[silent sun]

dh owns

[slim coral]

so that's pretty good

[sinful spoke]

12 on dk?

[slim coral]

no 12m on thane

[olive wraith]

Hype

[slim coral]

frost dk

it owns

[sinful spoke]

new breath sounds fun

[fiery edge]

frost dk

[echo rapids]

Frost is giga busted right now but blood is trash if you want to off spec at all

[silent sun]

next on chop block 🫡

[fiery edge]

NO

we should be having fun

[marble pilot]

Fair. As long as it feels good. It looks real good.

[bitter palm]

holy set

[echo rapids]

Feel bad for arms, zero reason to nerf bleed for arms but the strays are real

[bitter palm]

dw arms is used to it

look s1 slayer nerfs

stray after stray

[proven stream]

Arms getting collat

[echo rapids]

What’s the point of these hero spec tier sets if they still can’t balance them for different specs

[bitter palm]

they can they just dont

for some reason

[slim coral]

yep

[echo rapids]

Like the guardian nerf this past week was brutal all cause of boomie

[low folio]

does rekilling lfr bosses grant progress towards the puzzling chips

[echo rapids]

Yes

I think?

Pretty sure I did that on an alt

[fiery edge]

S tear?

[slim coral]

tld you

[bitter palm]

is this what u are playing

[slim coral]

I still need to see if the procs stack

or if you can't get a proc while at 2 stacks

or if it watse it

[bitter palm]

or is hns useless cause u dont really care about rb

ig on st u do

[slim coral]

Its in my vod at the start

I think so tho

[young swan]

dropping hns is so cursed

[bitter palm]

ye ik i did some slayer without it

giga cursed

[young swan]

also feel u just drop UF for def

deft

UF just such utter dogshit

[bitter palm]

ye i will get rid of it 👍

[junior gale]

What would you even drop HNS for theres really not much to take

[bitter palm]

holy stats

[bitter palm]

idk

bloodborne xddddddddd

ye legit nothing to take

i was thinking about deft

over hns but as xan said

i can just drop uf

its awful anyway

[slim coral]

this

is what i ran

[junior gale]

remember when onslaught was a part of UF

I memba

[bitter palm]

frenzied over powerful?

[olive wraith]

Ooooh powerful probably fucks

[bitter palm]

ye

with big tblasts

and shit

but idk maybe frenzied for more casts so u get more chances to get a tblast

[slim coral]

theres no sims

so might as well send it

[bitter palm]

ye i like frenzied more

will try both

got monk

hoooly

[slim coral]

I think if played perfect and no deaths

you can hit 7 mil as fury

in overall

[olive wraith]

Pls Blizz keep us like this

[bitter palm]

DONT TOUCH TIER BLIZZ

also funny thane hp

[turbid bay]

Depends how thane effects prot

Imagine it could be kind of crazy with the demo shout talent

With resets on thane

[proven stream]

So you're saying fury is gonna catch strays cos of prot

Just like arms

[inland flame]

I was really hoping that wasn't going to be a big problem but boy have I been proved wrong so far, at least with Warrior

[bitter palm]

@slim coral

depletus

halls

i think im rampaging too much

but idk is it worth to cap to cast bt or tb

[slim coral]

that dk sucks

but good shi

[bitter palm]

ye ik

[opaque crag]

Nice to see Fury topping some meters! But I'm worried about the whole hero talents situation. This might get nerfed

[bitter palm]

no way they take this from us

giga fun

cant lie

[inland flame]

Could be Ramp for enrage otherwise BT if you don't have a TB charge available

idk

[bitter palm]

@young swan fury master guide me

[bitter palm]

.

if im at 130 rage ravager ticking

[young swan]

i think its okay

[bitter palm]

and my enrage is fresh

do i cap to sent tb/bt

[young swan]

its prob just crit rng on ur big blaster

[bitter palm]

or send ramp

[young swan]

yeah prob

i think u cap for tb but probably not for bt

[bitter palm]

ye thats what im thinking too

but man

sometimes its so hard to get rid of tb xd

from 0 to 2 instantly with ravager ticking

[proven stream]

That's a good thing

[young swan]

yeah its really wacky

[proven stream]

Slam that tb

[olive wraith]

[bitter palm]

cinema

[inland flame]

Just put castsequence macros on every button that start with TB ez

[bitter palm]

real

[static mountain]

So slayer is dead?

[bitter palm]

in m+ for sure

[static mountain]

big sadge

[opaque crag]

I just wish BS was better for MT. I love myself some spin-to-win

[proven stream]

Spinning means I'm not clapping

[inland flame]

BS not having a meaningful place as a burst AOE cool does feel a bit off

[silent sun]

ive never entered a mythic plus raid in my life how do i convince a group of nerds to sherpa me to chad valhalla

my ign is benshapiro

[junior gale]

Holy we got Mythic + raids now

[plucky wedge]

Nah fury wont be nerfed even on the ptr target cap just makes it shit

[wintry smelt]

ATM fury can only get accepted into mythic negative runs

[slim coral]

gotta rizz em up

[olive wraith]

What cap

[bitter palm]

w pfp

[plucky wedge]

5

[olive wraith]

Thane isn’t hard capped

[bitter palm]

very capped

[plucky wedge]

still capped, just do gambit first area

[bitter palm]

ye ofc at 900 mobs

gambit is just aoe farming

arms gets gapped too

due to softcaps

[olive wraith]

Most classes are soft capped

[plucky wedge]

yeah exactly, my response was someone talking about fury mt getting nerfed

[bitter palm]

rate stats

clappa fucks

st is actually cracked

[tepid cedar]

holy shit jsut saw the news

[plucky wedge]

and i am like, fury isnt even close to been in nerf territory

[tepid cedar]

about time

THATS HUGE for thane

[bitter palm]

3.6 mil on halkias

on st

[olive wraith]

I mean you can nerf fury without changing the TB part

[bitter palm]

why would u nerf fury

we are mid with this set

[plucky wedge]

^

[bitter palm]

after they adjust outliers

we will be good

[olive wraith]

Why hasn’t frost dk been hit yet

[bitter palm]

idk

frost dk got more changes this expac than arms since wrath

[tepid cedar]

you ptr whores... hows overall and ST damage looking like for thane in dungeons

[bitter palm]

[olive wraith]

I think baze has been the only one to test

[tepid cedar]

@slim coral hows it looking

[olive wraith]

What was he at? 5m~ overall?

[bitter palm]

i depleted a 10 at 5.4

[olive wraith]

[bitter palm]

couldve done way more

if packs lived

u need shit to live

well its more that u need rng

to roll tb

no groups atm

wanna do like a 16

for a proper test

[bitter palm]

he inted as well

looking at chat

and tank/heal were bad

[junior gale]

Can I interest you in 5 clappas in a row

[bitter palm]

yes

[olive wraith]

Pls

Can I clap smore

[bitter palm]

rb is so dead

and im so glad

[junior gale]

I was playing it on ptr its satisfying

[sinful spoke]

BOOO

BOO

[junior gale]

just TB BT spam

[sinful spoke]

BOOO

FUCK THANE

BOO

[bitter palm]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-gif-25783770

[sinful spoke]

#BUFFSLAYERRBY30%

[slim coral]

only did one key it was really good tho in terms of feel

we'll have a clearer picture on numbers once they actually do tuning for classes

[bitter palm]

ye i just hope they keep our damage breakdown

[midnight kite]

The 4pc still dosent reset the CD on TB right

[bitter palm]

it does

u can chain tbs

i had 5 in a row

[junior gale]

theres a slight delay to it

[midnight kite]

Oh Shit, For Real?

[junior gale]

which I like

[bitter palm]

with ava

ye theres a slight delay

[midnight kite]

I am pretty sure the first version dident and it was kinda lame

[junior gale]

go TB rampage TB

[bitter palm]

prolly cause ionizing strike needs to land

[opaque crag]

Whoa, sounds amazing~

[wintry smelt]

Anger management was bis 😦

[opaque crag]

Let's hope that design lasts till S3

[bitter palm]

wdym was

could even be thane angle on dh boss

in raid

its 3t

with seismic tblast gonna fuck

[wintry smelt]

Oh we still use AM, shit

Maybe i go back to fury

Not played it since DF

[bitter palm]

ra is useless

[wintry smelt]

I hated RA

But probably cause AM felt like outlaw to me

[bitter palm]

same

[wintry smelt]

F it time to respec to fury

HELL YEAH feels like s2 again almost

🗡️ 🗡️

[broken hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/i-started-blasting-so-anyway-i-started-blasting-danny-devito-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-blasting-gif-24425727

[wintry smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-world-of-warcraft-bongo-cat-warrior-gif-27388603

[olive wraith]

Rip ramp, cb, cb ramp

[fresh mango]

lol

[young swan]

i made such a big booboo with my talents

running sidearm no reverb

[edgy widget]

https://tenor.com/view/bold-strategy-dodgeball-cotton-strategy-tactics-gif-4957668

[bitter palm]

typical

[young swan]

my details stopped working when i relogged...

[echo rapids]

Its trying to hide your shame

[young swan]

wow this spec is still VERY capped

[olive wraith]

Tb spam isn’t enough?

[young swan]

FUCK no

[olive wraith]

Oh well at least it’s better than perma hard cap

[young swan]

this was first pull hoa

in a 14

[proven stream]

What if melee comp 8 mob chain pulls

[final eagle]

its funny that dk can do that just with 2 spells

just reapers mark and exterminate and you are doing 12mill easy

[bitter palm]

roll more tb 🥀

[young swan]

yeah thats the one downside

u can just

giga low roll

no chain = despair

[final eagle]

maybe next expansion my friends

[olive wraith]

Nah this is enough for me

Fury keys next season poggers

[young swan]

the only play fury will see is the same as this season

[wintry smelt]

We use mastery on belt?

[young swan]

functionally nothing has changed

[wintry smelt]

I assume

[young swan]

u will be buffing the dk and the hunter

[wintry smelt]

Electric current?

[young swan]

no idea

[wintry smelt]

All my stats for prot kekw

F it

[slim coral]

no monk sadge

[flat river]

time for me to test it

[buoyant geode]

Whats the sims of the new tuning ? New thane feels good now ?

[modest condor]

no sims yet

[olive wraith]

No sims yet

[eternal sundial]

🦜

[quiet breach]

I started kicking ppl that rolled on stuff for vendor purposes in my pugs

feelsgoodman

way less people do it if you /rw "if you roll on stuff to vendor you will be kicked"

[clever iron]

seems like we aint gettin enythin else then the set bonuses for next season

[ornate gust]

I have unsubscribed after reading the last PTR note. I don’t think I want to play this game with the current state.. Sounds fucked up…

[olive wraith]

It’s still so early lol

[olive wraith]

Which part

[supple perch]

there is still time... 3 more weeks..

see you guys in 7 days, then I'll say: there is still time... 2 more weeks..

[clever iron]

😄 enyone tested how the changes for thane feel? u just sendin those TBs back to back?

[olive wraith]

Idk it seems like they’re heading in a good direction

This change was pretty big for thane

[ornate gust]

No new utility for m+, rallying cry is a joke, mediocre dps, no strong burst, and those continues nerfs back to back

[olive wraith]

Where was the fury nerfs?

[gloomy loom]

Is the new tuning a buff or a nerf for fury slayer

?

[olive wraith]

Burst doesn’t always mean good. You also want sustain

[olive wraith]

#updates-midnight

True rally is pretty weak. But shockwave is one of the best aoe stops

[indigo arch]

Still need more

Add some banners or shouts

Make disrupting easy to get for dps

[olive wraith]

Don’t warriors have more representation in high keys than ret?

[indigo arch]

Due to a couple physical comps maybe

But outside of those why take fury over ret or insert melee here

[olive wraith]

I mean if warrior works over pally

Is utility the issue?

[junior gale]

Utility is cope

Is what it is

[indigo arch]

It is utility and dogshit aoe

[olive wraith]

Pally has all the utility

Dog aoe? I swear they were blasting aoe

[indigo arch]

In keys? Hell no

Last time that occurred was tww prepatch

Was probably the one time fury had a chance of being meta

[gleaming siren]

Utility is and always will be cope

[indigo arch]

The burst was that insane

[gleaming siren]

Except for specs doing the same-ish damage at the top end

[indigo arch]

It's not cope in vault keys either, why inv a fury over insert melee (or range) here

Id sooner inv arms

[junior gale]

No but you see if I had lust or Brez everything will magically be better!!

[gleaming siren]

It's always the same, Spec X is not meta and everyone complains they have dogshit utility, then spec X does more damage and suddenly their utility is completely mandatory and keys aren't completable without it

[indigo arch]

It's one of multiple issues

No utility doesn't help

Meat cleaver needs rework

Fury doesn't even do well in the supposed class fantasy blizz wants

[worn yoke]

hits 7 additional targets for 65% damage.
Problem solved.

[olive wraith]

Seems like ret does okay damage

[wintry smelt]

What exactly does the reconfigure shit mean

[radiant plank]

Change it to be an INT weapon

[silk wharf]

It can be an intellect weapon.

[wintry smelt]

Oh f that

[indigo arch]

I'd just as soon they tune fury like it was in prepatch, don't need utility if you gap everything

[wintry smelt]

I did by accident in dg

💀

[olive wraith]

So you just want to be broken. Not good

[wintry smelt]

I saw symbols above my head

[silk wharf]

YOu can make a macro that has a combat check so that never happens

[indigo arch]

The alternative is fury has nothing

[junior gale]

If you ain't first your last

[indigo arch]

Take away damage and you have a bshout and Shockwave

[junior gale]

Thank you Ricky Bobby

[olive wraith]

If warriors are completing a key level under the Meta I’d say we’re okay

[wintry smelt]

Fury feels good tbf

[olive wraith]

If things stay the same I’d say we’re better next season

[wintry smelt]

But i think im misremembering didn't AM reset avatar CD aswell

Back in DF

[olive wraith]

Plus phys comp got buffed

[olive wraith]

No

[junior gale]

Every spec can get title it's the poor pug baby's that cry about meta

[indigo arch]

The fact that you have to basically locate a guardian+monk debuff+rogue+hunter is cancer

[wintry smelt]

Ok i am just stoopid

[olive wraith]

Am does for prot

[wintry smelt]

AHHH

Yh ok

I did play arms a bit before

[olive wraith]

If you’re pushing title sure

[worn yoke]

fury feels great it just does dogshit overall damage which feels bad. Buff aoe damage is all it needs.
OH and they need to get rid of Frenzy.

[indigo arch]

Don't even get me going on monk debuff buff

[wintry smelt]

I miss the big BT crits from S2 DF tier tho

[indigo arch]

Hardlocks people into needing monk even more

[wintry smelt]

Otherwise feels same

SO me happy

[olive wraith]

For 99% of the player base fury is good enough

I’d rather be above average than meta