#fury

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bitter palm
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funny

smoky vale
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i got shot in the streets cro

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šŸ„€

south kayak
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I wonder if this whole mage thing is gonna be on /r/wow

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has to be

smoky vale
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no

bitter palm
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r/competitivewow

warm crag
south kayak
bitter palm
smoky vale
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just do 🤔 if it is

dense elbow
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Stop it with the AI slop

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I beg

bitter palm
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wdym ai slop

south kayak
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not AI

bitter palm
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none of this is ai

dense elbow
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You are AI slop

bitter palm
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@clever path

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where valorant-livescryers

bitter palm
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@clever path what about csgo-diealdor

clever path
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Do you like my poster

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@bitter palm

bitter palm
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yes

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its cool

clever path
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Thanks

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I think so too

dense elbow
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Dont fall for it, it is AI!

clever path
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Ai is cool

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Im an ai too

dense elbow
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True, I heard that AI cant lie

balmy shore
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when will skyhold weaponize the server to appeal a ban……

dense elbow
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Next time Crit gets a ban

balmy shore
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ride or die for critcake

mossy fox
smoky vale
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critcake šŸ™‚

brittle crow
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ok so

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im hearing fury better for raid and arms better for m+ but their stats are different

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what should i play day 1 of new season

bitter palm
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what is ur focus on

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generally arms does better with fury gear than fury with arms gear

brittle crow
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im an all purpose Gamer God

bitter palm
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colossus loves mastery and crit

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slayer fury haste mastery

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so just fury and get a heavy crit ring

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pretty much

brittle crow
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i will say tho, i don't want to disappoint in the dps slot since im being moved from tank to dps

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so ill prioritize whichever spec is just objectively better in raid

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don't wanna be way behind on the meters

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so. fury?

smoky vale
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@brittle crow you need to not play tank buddy

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did you guys ever kill sproket

brittle crow
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this week is our last week before giving up for the season we got him to 17% 😭

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weighted coin toss towards no

brittle crow
bitter palm
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there are colo favored fights tho

brittle crow
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awhh

bitter palm
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so get a heavy crit ring

brittle crow
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are there such heavy crit rings

bitter palm
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fury gear with a heavy crit ring is legit enough

bitter palm
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but prolly

smoky vale
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almost like stats dont matter

bitter palm
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  • get halls trinket
smoky vale
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halls or balls

bitter palm
brittle crow
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what's so colo favored about the fights anyways

smoky vale
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dh fight 3t cleave

bitter palm
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the 3t one

smoky vale
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rest you just play fury

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2nd boss slayer arms or fury

bitter palm
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when is thst fight in the raid

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the dh one

smoky vale
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5?

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7 was unplayable 6 i didnt do so 5

bitter palm
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ye prolly wanna get a crit ring then

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and just play fury gear with that ring

brittle crow
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so if fury execute sux even w 2pc do we just hold it to game juggernaut again

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?

bitter palm
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it doesn't suck

smoky vale
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@gleaming siren how far did you get on 7th fight

bitter palm
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u spam it

brittle crow
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oh what'd i miss

bitter palm
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sd lights up press it

brittle crow
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that sounds epic

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i love sd

bitter palm
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ye

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wish it was that way for arms too

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but jugg has to ruin everything

brittle crow
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did execute get buffed or is it just the 2pc that makes it worth pressing

smoky vale
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2p

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look at @bitter palm 's name

brittle crow
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i wish my name was as cool as raging blow57...

bitter palm
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57 raging blows vs 57 gios no opportunist to make it a bit closet

smoky vale
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thats your entire rotation

bitter palm
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closer*

brittle crow
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when is the blood thirsty?

proven stream
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is it gonna be a bad idea to play only arms for the raid (both colo and slayer)

bitter palm
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raging blowwww

smoky vale
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if you are asking it probably does not matter

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are you playing world 20

proven stream
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nope

brittle crow
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so is fury actual assbad in keys going into this season still

smoky vale
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play for fun

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šŸ™‚

brittle crow
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nothing changed

brittle crow
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HUGE

smoky vale
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5 ct and no reck?

bitter palm
slim coral
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Nah we don’t fuck with BT

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Keep it rb only

bitter palm
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true and real

proven stream
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whats the pros/cons between arms slayer and fury slayer?

smoky vale
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one is aids to play

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one does damage

bitter palm
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and fury tankier

sullen tendon
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they need to bring back cof

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a billion interations on stat trinkets and damage proc trinkets but nothing that affects your actual spec

indigo quarry
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they got lazy on fun trinket

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too many top tier trinket in legion

sullen dove
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Cof boring

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rng am

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draught of souls and moonglaives however

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Moonglaive so peak

brittle crow
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how many targets before bt better than rb

sullen tendon
smoky vale
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i was thinking you press it out of reck

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to press as many rb and ramps in reck

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šŸ™‚

gleaming siren
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but honestly just a rough fight

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We didnt get too far into P2 but the breaths seemed very outplayable

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less BS than the yeet blue orbs from downtown P1

chilly fractal
indigo quarry
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its Recklessness give or take

nimble kraken
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We were good for a little bit season 1 no; what happened 😦

chilly fractal
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Nerf fury

indigo quarry
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Fury had a niche role in the raid that was single handed carrying far too much

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Blizzard dont like this

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so they shot Fury back in the head

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now its braindamaged for good

storm rune
quiet geyser
chilly fractal
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Numbers

nimble kraken
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I didn’t feel like I was the little brother that nobody wants tagging along when I was in keys

nimble kraken
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This season it’s laughable

fading sky
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Basicly what mm, devo and more specs do now?

indigo quarry
fading sky
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Only devo also fucks boss

earnest canyon
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How much damage is a fury 99 parse on a given fight vs mm hunter 99? On mobile atm and I hate WL on mobile

earnest canyon
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Any

storm rune
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a million

fading sky
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We fucked

summer quail
earnest canyon
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Are there any where fury is higher, even if it pads?

fading sky
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600k is a lot

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No?

earnest canyon
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Yeah it is sadge

fading sky
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Mm has better st and better cleave?

storm rune
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good thing no one in my raid is parsing above a 90 except me and the rogue

fading sky
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Mm does require some good rng

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Fury is always meh

quiet geyser
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If you count that

storm rune
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Stix we're only good if the adds can make it to melee before dying

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I'm lucky to get like 3 GCDs on the rocketeers

earnest canyon
narrow fossil
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Hi one noob question: If you got around 100 rage and 2-3 secs remaining of enrage, you do one more RB for extra stack of Slaughtering Strikes or just use Rampage?

fading sky
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All depebds

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Sd stacks at?

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But u dont insta rampage no

narrow fossil
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What is Sd?

fading sky
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Wowhead has priolist

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Follow it

storm rune
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or do, it's an incredibly minute loss

fading sky
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We cant afford that many losses

glad coyote
fading sky
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Ill tell our range dp to feck off

royal oxide
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Fury still shit in m+ in 11.2 ptr?

glad coyote
narrow fossil
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I got 13600 haste and 17800 mastery and this sims my warr in dungeons slice

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whaaaaaat?

radiant plank
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Ignore this

narrow fossil
radiant plank
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@tardy lark šŸ“ø

narrow fossil
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I have to pay to sims correctly?

radiant plank
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read what the yellow says

narrow fossil
rain bridge
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This might be duplicate but I can’t find it, what’s the best way to sim bosses with lots of adds (gally) for fury? My friend told me dungeon slice and hectic add cleave are probably bad

storm rune
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ST patchwerk

dapper goblet
thick fossil
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Still no news for this week's reset on the ptr?

gilded pawn
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news are on NA tuesday afternoons

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usually

heady crypt
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ptr just went down so might be later tonight

flat river
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it will 100% be an execute nerf for fury and a 50% buff to all other abilities

modest condor
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100%

flat river
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with raging blow being 60% buff instead of 50%

modest condor
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slaughtering strikes buffed from 20% to 25% per stack

flat river
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no

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they will make it 15% but it stacks up 2 more times

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like we every reach that high clueless

south kayak
thick fossil
south kayak
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Yo Silm

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wouldn't the RB spam slow down by a lot if they removed HnS

modest condor
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we would probably prio bt a bit more again

south kayak
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Yeah, the rotation would be fixed if they removed HnS

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evil talent

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We'd still need a Rampage buff though

thick fossil
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Nah, we'd still spam RB till we can't. Lol

modest condor
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i think we would go back to a more bfa style gameplay where you prio bt over rb if you only have 1 charge of rb

south kayak
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^ BiS gameplay

opaque crag
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What's wrong with Hack And Slash? I like RB spam D:

south kayak
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I assume you played in BfA

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Silm

modest condor
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i did

thick fossil
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Wouldn't be too bad, but they would have to put a lot more baseline into Rampage.

south kayak
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I'm curious, do you like this RB spam shit?

modest condor
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tbh i dont really care

south kayak
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Fair enough

modest condor
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i would like it if we pressed bt more often because i like the added selfheal it brings (both itself and cshb) but it's not like im one of those people who is pissed that we're now on the 3rd expansion of spamming rb

gilded pawn
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completely

thick fossil
south kayak
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It's just a bad design

gilded pawn
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yah i would agree that bt>rb1 would be a good play

modest condor
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yeah i agree that it's bad design but you asked whether i like it

south kayak
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I meant to ask about the design issue

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mb

thick fossil
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100% shit design. We complained about it since Dragonflight. Lol

south kayak
modest condor
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if it was up to me bt should be prio over rb 95% of the time

south kayak
opaque crag
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I guess I would like to press BT more, now that I think about it :/

quaint stag
south kayak
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then u press RB when none of these are available

thick fossil
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Rampage > Execute > BT > RB.
RB was suppose to be the filler not the enabler.

south kayak
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^

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It was the filler for the longest time then they just decided to break shit for fun

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Do you remember Legion's Inner Rage?

celest sierra
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damn they nerfed execute on the ptr by 10%

south kayak
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I think that would be a good talent to bring back

gilded pawn
celest sierra
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i saw it in Kelanis video today

south kayak
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Wasn't that a week ago lol

celest sierra
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he uploaded it to youtube talking about all the coming class changes

south kayak
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That was a week ago

celest sierra
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i may ghave read it wrong thought i saw 2H meaning 2 hour ago

south kayak
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specifically the 2p of Slayer

celest sierra
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nvm then sorry guys as u were

south kayak
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It's a video, takes longer to make

south kayak
thick fossil
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Welcome to this week. Lol

celest sierra
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lmao

south kayak
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Ironwall is a healthy individual

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he's not like us

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posting on discord 24/7

gilded pawn
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yep

opaque crag
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Ah, the other Iron[name], lol

south kayak
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We should get something like this

celest sierra
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listen guys , im sorry i saw grass outside and was curious to see how it feels

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so i touched it for the passed 2 weeks lmao i feel so disconnected from WOW

south kayak
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At that point it's kinda like BT though

thick fossil
south kayak
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That's nice

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I was playing other games then the mount event came up

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Had to resub lol

thick fossil
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Yes, rollerblading.

south kayak
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Are you good at it

quiet breach
celest sierra
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lmao

south kayak
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I rollerbladed once when a friend let me try

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I don't remember how it was

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Long time ago

thick fossil
thick fossil
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Saves gas skating to work plus it's like 20mins of a workout.

south kayak
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That is true

thick fossil
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I have hitched a ride on a car for a few blocks. lol

opaque crag
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LUL, literally 0 changes to fury in the patch notes. They'd better be cooking up something good, or I swear

dense elbow
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Warrior:
"Warrior is currently doing a bit more than we would like, as such we are reigning them in ever so slightly."

  • 3% aura nerf
opaque crag
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lmaoooo

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Very, very Blizz

gilded pawn
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are you looking into the future

opaque crag
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Kelani made a video today about some PTR updates

gilded pawn
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the other iron guy literally mentioned this 30 minutes ago

gilded pawn
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23 minutes ago

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and the video is 1 week outdated

opaque crag
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Huh, good to know

limber oar
warm crag
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@modest condor mage update?

modest condor
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?

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im not even in the mage discord

dense elbow
flat river
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was perma and he appealed and now it's 18 months (same thing)

tardy nacelle
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they pinged everyone, and then when people asked why the mods all started to crash out

heavy galleon
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WE GET BUFF, oh no i forgot to read "Mist of pandaria"

tardy nacelle
warm crag
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hes ulting

storm rune
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Bold stance to take

dense elbow
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Mages being mages I see

sullen dove
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I mean not incorrect but also nobody cares about some clown that got banned for playing with fire

junior gale
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hes not wrong but if its against the rules then its against the rules

fading sky
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I meean

south kayak
fading sky
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Now he is welcome at skyhold

south kayak
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We can’t use that word here

south kayak
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They don’t give a shit

dense elbow
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Breaking News: Mage players that dont care about anyone else, also dont care about eachother. Shocking! News Story at 23:15, only on SilmNewz

willow cradle
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Lel

inland flame
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I don't really know enough about the mage community to have an opinion. I'm sympathetic to the story they paint but I have no idea about how true it is.

sullen dove
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I mean depends the extent of what he was doing

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Like semi agreeable shit on ptr shouldn’t he that bad to warrant year and a half ban

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But also like what u probing around in there to begin with what u needa find out about the anticheat

tardy nacelle
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the complete discord moderator team crashout is the funniest part of the whole scenario

inland flame
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Yeah I mean obviously they're saying it was a false positive but who tf knows

tardy nacelle
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they are just banning anyone who makes a joke now

south kayak
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Classic

south kayak
dense elbow
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That being they are mageplayers, so who cares?

south kayak
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The original post said something about how it was a permanent ban then got reduced to 18 months after an appeal, what kind of false positive ban works like this @inland flame

inland flame
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idk, I try not to assume anything

south kayak
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That’s fair, I don’t presume to know anything, just pointing out something

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Could be completely wrong

inland flame
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I mean the severity of the ban does make me feel like it was probably something real and the guy is lying but feelings can be wrong n stuff

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Like for example a month ago I wouldn't have felt like Blizz would give our AOE hero talent a set bonus that basically doesn't scale with AOE but HUEHUE YKNOW

sullen dove
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gotta even em out somehow

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give thane some more st give slayer some more aoe

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but slayer even further ahead on st than before clueless

dense elbow
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If you take away Slayer ST at current tuning, it so dead in keys tho

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Dont touch mah ST, it is all I got

sudden tusk
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we just have to wait for a rework

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we have the sprist problem rn

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but we are servicible enough we are on the backburner

dense elbow
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Just tune it so I am ahead of everyone else on ST by at least 50%, or make it so I am at max 3% behind the best AoE DPS dealer in the game on overall gladge

coarse nest
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@young swan ā¤ļø

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@dusky moon

smoky vale
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welcome back

coarse nest
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Bot was mad

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@undone flower got got too

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Free happy he’s French

dusky moon
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Welcome back nerd

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Ping everyone Again

south kayak
warm crag
gleaming siren
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where does one start

coarse nest
coarse nest
dense elbow
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1 hour permanetly, sounds a lot more dire than it is

tardy nacelle
opaque crag
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Did he? That's good, it seemed a little excessive

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Not a fan of the slur, but w/e

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lol

warm crag
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good for him but whoever pinged everyone should be axed

tardy nacelle
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the mage discord loves it

coarse nest
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People use the full R word in mage discord

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??

warm crag
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ye

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the guy who pinged everyone is using it

quiet breach
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was anyone else paying attention to mage discord drama

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why did an @ everyone ping cause so much drama

hollow leaf
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mod forgot to rebuff intellect and did a stupid

coarse nest
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Long time mage theory crafter supposedly got false banned

quiet breach
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ye ik that part

coarse nest
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Another mod utilized at everyone ping

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Gave horrible information

quiet breach
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so it was multiple @ everyone pings?

coarse nest
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Called a majority of the mage community irrelevant

quiet breach
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oh lol

opaque crag
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Oof, someone's gonna be in trouble for that lmao

quiet breach
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his homie did get unbanned btw

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so it worked

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porom died on the sword for his homie

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lmao

coarse nest
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To be fair, false bans should be a much higher priority to correct than it is

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If that happened to a random guy like me I’d just be permanently fucked

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Over 15k hours and thousands of dollars in subscription and shop purchases

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Just gone for no reason

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Think about that

dense elbow
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That is if you believe the spiel that it is truely a random and not at all, in any way shape or form, a reasoned ban

coarse nest
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Well knowing Critcake’s false ban id lean on the side of giving him the benefit of the doubt

dense elbow
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Depends on the reasoning for the ban, no? I dont know what was on that backend, perhaps a false positive, perhaps a lockdown on some ToS break that doesnt really matter. Who knows.

Personally, I don't give it much thought. Do I think this mage in question is innocent and squaky clean? Not really. But, I dont know they guy beyond him being a WoW player and a mage

coarse nest
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I mean yeah I’m not really invested in his situation either way, just speaking generally

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Permanent bans should be looked at by a human and appeal should be heard by a human

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I know that requires resources but it’s necessary imo

quiet breach
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the @ everyone ping worked

dense elbow
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Uhuh, and was that because of the community uproar, and they just wanted to be free of a headache. Or cause he was genuinly innocent?

modest condor
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you think they would unban someone just because some discord server was in chaos?

dense elbow
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Who knows, maybe someone knows someones wife

modest condor
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true

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i know my father's wife

storm rune
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Discord moderators wife

coarse nest
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ā€œIt’s who you know, not what you knowā€

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Truest words ever

echo rapids
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Wait what did this guy do?

compact knot
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It was the same situation as critcake

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With 1 minor difference

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But literally the exact same

vernal laurel
glad coyote
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thane back baby!

young swan
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woo thane tier

olive wraith
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Ayyyyy double TB damage

hollow elk
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is thane back in the menu?

edgy widget
# olive wraith Ayyyyy double TB damage

not all Blasts get +100%, only the next one after proccing Ionizing
So it's more like +35% TBlast damage, on top of +35% more TBlasts in general, which if you really want to simplify it could be considered very roughly +70% overall damage from TBlast (at the cost of a few other GCDs)

sour elbow
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Is that making thane viable in ST?

edgy widget
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na probably not

sour elbow
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balls

edgy widget
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but paper napkin suggests it should be fairly close to Colossus

upbeat plume
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theyve seemed pretty happy keeping thane to the cleave/aoe build and slayer as the ST champ so probably wouldnt see them intentionally change that in a drastic manner I wouldnt think

sour elbow
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Can they just give us the massive execute buff and let us live our best meat lives

olive wraith
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Still nice sounding buff

modern ingot
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All i see is more nerfs to already dumpstered class and buff to useless tier set which probably makes it slightly better in M+

olive wraith
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Fury is back baby

sour elbow
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not without them messing with the aoe cap lol

edgy widget
upbeat plume
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I mean yeah furys aoe problem is not really about tuning for m+ sadly, and isnt it gonna get worse with the new dungeon lineup as the pull count has gone up?

modern ingot
edgy widget
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the tier was pretty dummy strong

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and they also nerfed a lot of other class tier sets at the same time

modern ingot
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True. But other classes are significantly more useful in raids and M+

young swan
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dude...

upbeat plume
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yeah they havent really sledge hammered our tier sets in a bad direction so while nerfs are never really fun, it could have been soooo much worse from past patches

red berry
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the proc rate of raging blow with tierset is still pretty low

young swan
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void storage removed...

modest condor
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sad day

vernal laurel
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No nerfs to fdks somehow dandy

upbeat plume
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wait I missed that bit lol

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on void storage lol

edgy widget
royal oxide
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Fury back?

sour elbow
olive wraith
edgy widget
olive wraith
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To at least mid

kindred notch
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warrior fury dead or meta? xd

young swan
olive wraith
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Not meta

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Not dead

vernal laurel
modest condor
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fury dead

kindred notch
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sadge

sullen tendon
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Wrong

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Fury is dead

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We’re just zombies too stubborn to give up

olive wraith
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lol okay

modern ingot
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If you try and play frost dk for example you realize it’s just a lot better fury warrior

kindred notch
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for raid

olive wraith
modern ingot
dapper goblet
regal mountain
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i think fury is gonna need a lot more love than this tbh

modern ingot
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Since we bring 0 utility

olive wraith
slim coral
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Gonna test these changes lets go

olive wraith
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Physical comps are gonna be pretty strong

quiet breach
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thane saved?

vernal laurel
slim coral
modern ingot
proven hornet
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Yup we are now doing half of what frost dk can do, thane is great again

vernal laurel
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Maybe they could give dps warrior disrupting shout or something as well

olive wraith
vernal laurel
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Since you know, we never are

olive wraith
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That’s far from being ā€œdeadā€

uneven path
signal locust
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Your still not getting an invite into pug double digits until 12 weeks into the season.

bitter palm
modern ingot
floral isle
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WHY ARE THEY NERFING DPS WARRIORS

ashen tendon
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fdk tier LUL

floral isle
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WHY

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what

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it makes no sense

young swan
bitter palm
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its tierset tuning

young swan
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and they only nerfed the tierset

floral isle
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they dropped the slayer tier set

bitter palm
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who cares

floral isle
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from 20 percent to 10 percent

young swan
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u shouldnt take that as class tuning

modern ingot
young swan
modern ingot
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Super OP class

bitter palm
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JA CLAPPA blast

modest condor
floral isle
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50 percent on reap isn't even close to 10 percent on raging and overpower

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reap hits for nothing

bitter palm
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@eternal sundial come back king clappa is back

flat river
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reap is huge damage

young swan
#

this is like very basic math i fear

olive wraith
#

I just realized Tb buff is also decent for st as well

edgy widget
# modern ingot If you try and play frost dk for example you realize it’s just a lot better fury...

listen, no disrespect, but every time there's even a halfway nice change, some random person just has to show up and talk about how the sky is falling because the class still isn't good enough

I get it, Warrior is still struggling in M+ and nobody is saying it couldn't be a whole lot better, but we really don't need to relive this conversation every single week so please, take your ire somewhere else

coarse nest
olive wraith
#

We blasting gang

sturdy zodiac
#

They're killing the arms. They are eating the furies.

edgy widget
#

I'm just tired of the same tired conversation playing out over and over again

peak lagoon
#

also have to remember colosal set nerf is also for prot warrior which is absolutly cranking

edgy widget
#

I mean yeah, that's the main reason for it

opaque crag
#

Yeah, the pity party is a little offputting lol

edgy widget
#

just like the main reason for nerfing OP/RB damage was b/c of Fury rather than Arms

summer quail
#

eyoo that thane buff is big nice

peak lagoon
#

monday night is a weird timeframe to drop changes tho, surely more tuning later clueless

edgy widget
dense elbow
#

I am groggy and tired, but (2) is Reap proc and RB dam?

#

doesnt sound right

flat river
#

it's (4) yeah i was confused

opaque crag
#

I tried to tell these guys that there would be tuning, haha. We'll see how things play out when the season starts. I like the Thane changes too

flat river
#

@edgy widget

coarse nest
#

Just accept that our class is bad guys it’s alright

coarse nest
opal monolith
#

is the mountain thane redesign set making our uncapped aoe better?

dense elbow
#

Why archi do me like that, my brain cant handle such immense confusion

opal monolith
#

or back to copium coma

modern ingot
sullen tendon
#

It’s not that fury is better or worse in raid or m+ it’s that the devs consistently ruin the spec and never try to fix it with reworks meanwhile every other spec in the game gets what feels like multiple reworks per expac

floral isle
#

i just calculated single target from testing

opal monolith
summer quail
floral isle
#

40 mil reap damage means a 10 mil increase with 150% right?

olive wraith
#

TB is soft capped so it will help a bit

young swan
floral isle
#

234mil with raging blow where 10 percent is 23 mil

#

you're losing 13 mil

dense elbow
floral isle
#

oh if it's 20

#

yeah

#

i mean it's just even i guess

young swan
#

wow

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almost like

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thats what we said

#

weird

#

how that works

flat river
#

xd

dense elbow
#

Did you concider some of those reaps are BT reaps tho, Locke?

floral isle
#

lol

peak lagoon
#

kill them with hammers right now xan

crude ridge
dense elbow
#

Let the plot thiccen

hard widget
#

@young swan tldr fury thane viability?

floral isle
#

oh that is true actually

#

BT reaps means it's lower

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than 20 mil

young swan
#

so

coarse nest
#

Xan figured out it was 20% but I’m going to pretend like I figured that out and say the same thing right after

young swan
#

yeah

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SO much reap damage from BT guys

dense elbow
#

As long it is accounted for

flat river
floral isle
#

i mean it's still a minus, even if you were super generous and say it's like 17-18 mil

modest condor
floral isle
#

the other thing is it relies on target switching

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which slayer is already awful at

hard widget
#

Anyone have a tldr on the m+ viability on fury with these changes?

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Or we just feely crafting

bitter palm
young swan
tall raft
#

So mountain 4 set no longer has the 25% chance now is it 100% or what

flat river
floral isle
#

just makes having to switch even worse

young swan
dense elbow
#

Locke, finish your math equation already

summer quail
young swan
#

its not dire like it was before

turbid bay
#

Is it only raging blows reap thats stronger now?

hard widget
#

:3

summer quail
#

ā¤ļø

hard widget
turbid bay
#

Thats the way it reads

floral isle
#

yeah

young swan
#

but its still not great

floral isle
#

it's only from raging blow

turbid bay
#

Ahh yeh

#

Kinda odd change just makes us slightly better in multi targ i guess so good overall

coarse nest
#

Time to max valorstones on alts hollyy

turbid bay
#

Yeah i read that

dense elbow
#

Or not

turbid bay
#

Time to save up

charred estuary
#

I'd rather see that Giga reap the storm be on sudden death :/

coarse nest
#

Imagine how fast you can max ilvl when you have like 4 or 5 toons with max valor banked and you can just transfer them

#

Omega

dense elbow
#

Same, but they really love RB, is what it is - Auri

young swan
#

i really dont understand why flightstones exist at all

coarse nest
#

They’re horrible

dense elbow
#

(valorstones, for you new kids)

young swan
#

just remove them

crude ridge
coarse nest
#

Hard agree it’s an annoying addition

#

We already farm the crests

plush zephyr
#

DF?

dense elbow
#

Ya getting old Steel

floral isle
#

i mean the fact that valorstones are now warbound make it a lot better honestly

warped bone
#

Valorstones won't be warbound at start of season

plush zephyr
#

the 25% or whatever fee

floral isle
#

yeah

plush zephyr
#

Sucks

floral isle
#

but i assumed they would remove it start of next season

bitter palm
#

just annoying

glad coyote
#

so how bad is thane now ?

bitter palm
#

today im gonna play fury and spend 9 billion valorstones

dense elbow
vernal laurel
bitter palm
#

to upgrade my 2 weapons

sturdy crown
modern elm
#

At this rate we running 15 balance DRUIDs this tier still.

Dunno the change seems weird. Currently we are a bit degen into pushing RB and this doesn't change that. I miss pre patch BT hitting rock hard.

floral isle
#

thane was already pretty decent on some raid fights

young swan
plush zephyr
floral isle
#

i played it on soulbinder mythic testing

dense elbow
floral isle
#

and i was able to match most classes

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save for BM

glad coyote
floral isle
#

Ionizing was doing decent damage

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got like 7 percent out of it

plush zephyr
#

I’m playing fury/arms regardless of tuning I’m just here for the raging or cheering yep

dense elbow
#

I am gonna play Fury and just be boosted either way

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so its all good

floral isle
#

it'll definitely be good for soulbinder, maybe araz

#

since there's a lot of target switching which hurts slayer

opaque crag
#

I'll be playing Arms in m+ probably. As for raid, it just depends on what the leads want. Either way, I'm not gonna lose sleep over it

young swan
#

I think the only fight that has a chance to be good for thane is soulbinder

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maybe a small argument for dh council

floral isle
#

i really liked colossus arms on council

summer quail
#

dimensius thane fight

silver shell
#

colossus did work on council for me

floral isle
#

was literally able to do close to frost DK numbers with cleave keeping warbreaker lined up with demolish

young swan
#

im of the opinion that u just wont play dps warrior on council

floral isle
#

i tried thane too on it

summer quail
#

i do not know anything abot the fight. but dimensius thane

floral isle
#

but it did considerably less

edgy widget
#

Well Thane didn't have a tier bonus either keks

floral isle
#

this was after they fixed it during the mythic testing

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ionizing gave me like 63 mil damage on soul hunters over 5 minutes of combat

south kayak
#

Holy

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Huge thane buff

#

Let’s goo

limber oar
#

Wait so now ionizing strikes have a 35% chance to proc when you tblast but when they do strike they have a 100% chance to proc another tblast and make ot deal double dmg?

#

Just double checking i remember the tierset totally

young swan
#

yeah

red berry
#

its okay because now thane is on the way to becoming a hero spec

limber oar
#

Thats actually giga

red berry
#

although rng on top of rng is still godawful design

gusty compass
#

Is this everything they gave us? So fucking sad. We need some rework with the class...

fleet pasture
#

atleast the setbonus is kinda fun now

inland flame
#

Came with a Col 4p nerf too

young swan
inland flame
#

And buffed the 4p Reap procs on the Slayer set

gusty compass
red berry
#

i mean i dont disagree that they should be touching up stuff especially since they've refused to touch capstones and its not

#

too late?

young swan
gusty compass
young swan
#

gn

south kayak
#

I’m surprised no fdk nerfs

young swan
#

only tier set tuning

#

they'll have their day

south kayak
#

Yeah

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Spriest should get tier set tuning too though

#

I think theirs is giga

warped drum
#

Still no tuning for Arms or Fury. Just tier set. Lame as heck

south kayak
#

That is tuning

dapper goblet
#

2 warriors every fight next tier

inland flame
#

At least the Thane set is better, anxious to see how good it is

turbid bay
#

Just gotta wait for the sims

south kayak
#

Is PTR live yet

young swan
#

nah

south kayak
#

Looks like a very good buff

young swan
#

they're prob strugglign with the void storage stuff

slim coral
south kayak
#

It was either that or make ionizing strikes more frequent

#

But I love the thunder blast proc

turbid bay
#

100% chance on ionizing would have been ok

south kayak
#

Not to mention the damage gets increase by 100% lol

turbid bay
#

We already had a tb proc

south kayak
inland flame
#

Ya Ionizing Strikes don't scale with AOE

plush maple
inland flame
#

By themselves

turbid bay
#

Just hope the rng just isnt shit

plush zephyr
#

Pretty sure if you gave a poll and asked if you wanted a rework, vast majority would say yes. Maybe I’m crazy.

south kayak
plush maple
#

Complain about the damage but fury is the most fun spec, a rework would change that and I don’t trust spec identity would be honored

young swan
#

we dont have spec identity

turbid bay
#

The tb reset was already part of the set is what is what i was saying

young swan
#

currently

fleet pasture
#

spamming RB?

south kayak
young swan
#

must not have played ele shaman if u think fury is the most fun spec

plush maple
#

Fast paced high APM gameplay

south kayak
plush maple
#

Generate rage and dump into rampage

south kayak
#

You may think a spec is better designed but not find it as fun

young swan
south kayak
#

Wait a second; the 4p increases ionizing strikes damage by 100%?

#

I thought it was 50

plush zephyr
young swan
#

that was part of the buff last week

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or whenever it was

inland flame
#

The 50>100 thing was a part of the first round of tuning

south kayak
#

Ok

south kayak
young swan
#

stagnation is bad

plush maple
#

Clearly not stagnant because numbers keep changing which is apparently all that matters

vernal laurel
young swan
#

the only changes that have been made have been made in the worst direction each time

south kayak
untold moth
#

War needs m+ help too, give us BR or lust and for God's sake buff rally in 5 man

young swan
quiet breach
#

yo my friend is in a world last guild, if they kill gally on patch week do they still get CE?

south kayak
#

World last lol

vernal laurel
quiet breach
#

well that's what it is

modest condor
#

historically you've had until the new raid opens to get ce

quiet breach
#

last possible opportunity to get it type shit

inland flame
#

"Defeat Chrome King Gallywix in the Liberation of Undermine on Mythic difficulty, before the release of the next raid tier."

plush maple
inland flame
#

Should be able to get it patch week.

slim coral
#

@young swan we in

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servers up

south kayak
#

Show thane

young swan
inland flame
#

Or without affecting it rather. Etc etc.

young swan
#

couple that with the fact that 4/11 of our capstones are actually worth anything at all and our cd;s being some of the weakest in the game

#

thats quite a few issues stacking up

dense elbow
#

OF is worth it tho

south kayak
inland flame
#

If they tried to fix us the same way ig they would get rid of Meat Cleaver and give us an AOE rage dump? Which would be weird.

fleet pasture
#

back to whirlwind šŸ˜„

young swan
#

okay shut the fuck up

#

tblast resets when u get the tier proc

south kayak
#

Someone cooked

untold moth
#

Fury is saved in m+ let's goooooo

dense elbow
#

Doubt that

opaque crag
#

God I hope so

turbid bay
#

There was

south kayak
#

Not saved but it’s a step in the right direction

untold moth
#

The Fury blood in my veins needs the cope

slim coral
turbid bay
#

Its still only 20% chance to proc

slim coral
#

3 min dps check

turbid bay
#

Inside a 35%

slim coral
#

Thunder blast is king now

south kayak
inland flame
#

It has to be a MASSIVE aoe buff. Noticably more TBlasts that do double dam.

south kayak
#

Goodbye raging blow spam for thane

#

It’s BT spam

south kayak
#

Fury prio kind of fixed with thane

#

Excluding Execute

olive wraith
young swan
#

@eternal sundial JA CLAPPA IS BACK FOR REAL

olive wraith
#

Holy goated

junior gale
#

JA CLAPPA

inland flame
#

Guaranteed charge and the next one does double dam

junior gale
young swan
olive wraith
#

Omg

#

Fury meta inc

south kayak
tiny estuary
#

lol - fury meta

inland flame
#

Let them cope, its our only comfort

olive wraith
#

Dude tb resetting is pretty huge

south kayak
inland flame
#

I think he used an actual image

young swan
#

diff discord

turbid bay
#

We will need to see the numbers hopefully it fixes it

young swan
#

by accident

south kayak
#

Thane could easily be played in that 3 fight boss

turbid bay
#

For sure

untold moth
#

So its the 2p trigger guaranteed to get us the tb or is it 5 tries at 20% so sometimes we get fucked

inland flame
#

Aren't they rarely stacked? I've only watched a few minutes of the fight.

turbid bay
#

I thought it was 2 target

inland flame
#

2p has 35% to proc bolts which guarantee a free charge

turbid bay
#

Cause heard seperate one

#

O it gurantees a proc thats pretty strong

south kayak
#

@slim coral can you screenshot the tooltip of the tier bonus

#

Please

olive wraith
#

I’m so damn hype now

south kayak
#

Bro this is all it takes

inland flame
#

Right now each TBlast will have a 35% chance to do a bunch of extra damage and give you a charge of TBlast that does double dam.

south kayak
#

To get me hyped lol

south kayak
#

I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s higher dps than slayer lol

turbid bay
#

Rb spam to thunderblast spam ill take it

south kayak
#

No

#

You use BT for that

quiet breach
olive wraith
#

Slayer was rb spam

plush zephyr
#

Fury’s gonna own

south kayak
#

Last one

plush zephyr
#

Ppl gonna be mad

inland flame
#

Dude imagine the big aoe pulls where it chain procs could actually feel like a real boi here and there

young swan
south kayak
#

Oh yeah

#

That

thick fossil
#

LMAO

olive wraith
turbid bay
#

Meat cleaver stacks arent a thing anymore

south kayak
#

TB #1 prio, world is healed

young swan
#

they used to consider capstones as the absolute last nodes in the tree but i think thats outdated now

turbid bay
#

For thane

inland flame
#

Bro the hopium is slowly filling my lungs

south kayak
olive wraith
#

TB spam is a goated change

#

I love it

south kayak
#

I wonder if we’re gonna spam BT during ravager too

#

TB too good

thick fossil
#

These patch note tuning.... LMAO. Gotta love Blizzard being so fucking dumb. The only hope we have now is some insanely over the top aura buff.

south kayak
#

We used to just spam RB during ravager

olive wraith
#

Chat is this rage bait

dense elbow
olive wraith
#

I’m confused

south kayak
#

It isn’t

quiet breach
#

guys I unironically think blizzard just turned us into a good m+ spec

dense elbow
#

I am glad you believe so

turbid bay
#

Better be no more garbage tier

quiet breach
#

@tepid cedar @restive peak is fury insane in m+ now?

south kayak
summer quail
olive wraith
#

If I had to guess this’ll put us closer to the meta than s2 Df

young swan
#

just not turbo dead

south kayak
#

Not insane but good

#

Better than s1 and 2

#

I’d say

turbid bay
#

Can you get 2 procs in one tb?

young swan
#

sustain damage is cracked

south kayak
#

^

young swan
quiet breach
#

wasn't s1 fury pre giga nerfs good in m+?

south kayak
#

Nah

dense elbow
#

nop

modest condor
#

no it was alright

olive wraith
quiet breach
#

ig they only had OP burst AOE not sustained

#

back then

#

and sustained AOE is king in m+

inland flame
#

There's an in-game screeny if anyone wants it

olive wraith
#

Sexy

south kayak
#

Lol

turbid bay
untold moth
#

Oh fuck that's sexy

inland flame
#

Dude you think that's bad go read Frost DK's tier set they have rn

south kayak
#

Just say you gain a charge of TB that deals 100% additional damage

#

That’s way less words

#

And looks better

quiet breach
inland flame
#

I'm just saying that Frost Undermine tier set is wordy.

south kayak
#

It’s just wordy

#

Not bad

cursive ridge
#

thane buff is fucking crazy

#

at least on a target dummy its like obliterating them

quiet breach
#

how big is the slayer nerf tho

cursive ridge
#

just spamming thunder blasts nonstop

south kayak
#

Neutral

#

Doesn’t matter

untold moth
#

Our tier ser is just wordy cause they didn't change the code for the tier, just the trigger variables

south kayak
#

@quiet breach

quiet breach
#

ty

olive wraith
south kayak
#

It’s also better since RB was crazy

#

Not that it’s gonna fix it

olive wraith
#

Think it buffs the aoe actually

south kayak
#

Ok now someone needs to see if RB 4p thing cleaves

cursive ridge
#

is thunder blast stormstrike dmg affected by monk buff

south kayak
oak garden
#

Wup, good change for MT. blast

olive wraith
#

Phys comps got buffed purpleface

south kayak
#

It’s physical and nature iirc

thick fossil
#

It buffs the aoe, but these changes are meh at best and certainly not where the class really needs to go. Like I said, the only thing we can hope for now is big big aura buffs.

south kayak
#

You’re not getting the classes changes you want now

summer quail
south kayak
#

Wait for next expac

edgy widget
south kayak
brittle crow
#

do thane buffs mean we play thane in m+

#

:3

south kayak
#

^

#

What Archi said

summer quail
south kayak
#

That barely does anything

edgy widget
#

yes, but it's not really a major part of your dam

south kayak
#

Atp

summer quail
#

ye fair

olive wraith
south kayak
#

Speaking of which, buff lightning strikes

#

Yo archi

#

Bazed saw that the ionizing strikes reset TB cd

south kayak
#

Maybe useful in the updates channel

restive peak
#

I assume others already told you

#

But no

summer quail
#

coz tb does guarantee a lightning strike, more tb resets does mean more lighting strikes. but if lightning strikes is weak then yeah that's fine

edgy widget
plush zephyr
south kayak
#

It reset

young swan
#

the CD does reset, I thought it multiprocced

#

but it was him pressing avatar

south kayak
#

Wait what

edgy widget
south kayak
#

I thought I saw something

#

Nvm

edgy widget
#

I'll double check it in a few mins

south kayak
#

I could be wrong but I think it reset after avatar

#

Let me see again

young swan
#

im watching him do a key

#

100% resets

summer quail
south kayak
#

Yeah

brittle crow
#

op?

south kayak
#

I saw right then

chrome relic
#

stream link?

brittle crow
#

let us be stompy fury, blizz

young swan
#

i'll get another clip

brittle crow
#

don't take it away from us

south kayak
#

My eyes did not deceive me

olive wraith
tulip mirage
thick fossil
# edgy widget buffs the ST too fwiw

Yeah, I guess they want Thane to be better on ST now. Ah well. Now that they nerfed Colossus and Slayer, we only have aura buffs to look forward to.

oak garden
olive wraith
#

Ya this dude is baiting

oak garden
#

Lets get stompy in M+.

edgy widget