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south kayak
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They're gonna balance around it copium

sour frigate
south kayak
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tbh just don't play physical classes

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easy

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that's what I'm doing next season

remote bobcat
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class traitor

south kayak
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I betrayed this class in s1

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too late for that

remote bobcat
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its never too late to change for the better

dense elbow
south kayak
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Are you sure it's for the "better"?

remote bobcat
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it absolutely is

south kayak
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I'm maining a healer for raid next season anyway

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a healer and a frost dk

clever iron
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meta slaves

south kayak
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Yes and?

bitter palm
untold compass
dim umbra
untold compass
dense elbow
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Any group with a warrior will want a monk, so if you got a friends who play say a BDK, mage and druid - you will want that MW

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see the system is working!

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The only cost? Warrior must play with Monk gladge or be 8% weaker flat, well, or just never get the bonus in an efficent way, as there is no guarentee the MW will apply the debuff at all targets at all times

But at least on bosses, most of the time

untold compass
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Lol, sounds like MW/monk just became mini-aug for warrior/phys classws

south kayak
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Yeah that's why this buff is bad

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and they should revert it

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Unless they're going to tune around it, it's a bad change

bitter palm
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brew resto shaman arms outlaw feral

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based comp

south kayak
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real

dense elbow
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It is just another step in the direction of cementing phy classes to only play with phy classes. Sure, it already is an advantage ganging up, there is synergy - not doing so punishes your DPS. The problem is that Warriors being not really wanted in any other comp is reinforced.

Our options shrink, it doesnt widen with the change. It is further segregation of Magic vs Phy, meanwhile hybdrids live the high life.

What makes it even worse? Warrior isn't the hypercarry. We are simply just another buff-bot element of the composition. Meaning our damage isn't what makes us worth bringing, it is the AP% shout value. So not only are we not brough in other comps... as our damage is shit tier. We got to sit in our own comp, looking at the real DPS carry your weight around.
||That DPS could likely be a ret Hydrate ||

radiant plank
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I am not inviting a ret to my physical comp

clever belfry
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retriam

eager lily
formal ravine
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And non of this matters if the tuning is shit

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8% when you are 50% behind

dense elbow
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Lets see, I got a ping

formal ravine
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Also this might be worse for the physical comps, cus they may start tuning a bit around this, which would be bad for the phys specs

dense elbow
summer quail
gleaming siren
dense elbow
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Not going to lie, I will never get why any one who enjoys M+ would want this enforced upon Warrior

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we struggle to get in enough as it is

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Make monk buff 3%, buff warrior 2% up baseline instead gladge so I can play with my DH, mage and druid friends

drowsy heron
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Blizzard doesnt know how to balance their game lol

dense elbow
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Oh, I dont doubt they know, nor do I think they are doing this without understanding what they are doing

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They just disagree if "forcing you into camp A and only camp A" is a good thing or not

formal ravine
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This is one of the best changes i believe for the m+ scene

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Because the magic specs were always ahead, and there was usually no way to fit any physical into them without losing something. Now you make a bigger seperation in a way but phys comp gets a bit more defined in the "meta"

dense elbow
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Doubt anything changes at all, as we going to be balanced around it. It will be no different from the current situation other than monk is now mandatory.

formal ravine
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Yes and how often are you going to take a monk in a non phys comp?

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Almost never

dense elbow
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So same as always

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what is your point?

gleaming siren
formal ravine
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So now you kinda seperate and allow people to go into set ups that play around this more

gleaming siren
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Phys comp already existed?

dense elbow
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You already played around this

gleaming siren
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And was already good

vernal laurel
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Fury Fury Fury Fury Fury Fury approved approved approved approved approved BIG BUFFS THIS WEEK WE BELIEVE

formal ravine
# gleaming siren And was already good

Warrior was not going to go taht easy in a setup that had dh, mage,boomie etc in. The physical comp obviously exists but now it's a bit more seperated for the total gain

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Before you could wiggle a monk in a set up that wasn't fully phys, the same way you could have a rogue

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It simply splits 2 types of metas regardless which is better

dense elbow
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It really isnt, cause it limits your options as:
In your non-meta comp would you rather bring the warrior doing 8-16% less damage, or a mage doing 3-7%. Presuming we are tuned equally and mage doesnt have the classical mage lead.

formal ravine
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But what you're presenting is tuning outside of buffs

dense elbow
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If you start segregating, then more and more will simply chose the path most traveled - the easier path. They will go towards the stronger of the two opitons. More and more will go mage to get to play.

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Fewer phy players equal what?

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Indeed, fewer options, making the problem ball on

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This isnt a win outside arguably (and even there I say nothing changed) the top 0.01% meta

formal ravine
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You are looking at it on the warrior perspective only

plush zephyr
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when i saw the 8% buff (overall) monks are getting I immediately dm'd my monk friends "hheyyyy you wanna push next season"

dense elbow
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I can use the word Rogue, hunter or feral, if you want?

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Doesnt change my point

raw bone
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guys if I put a socket on a crafted item, will it maintain the socket when i recraft it next season?

formal ravine
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It does change your point

formal ravine
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You're lookign at it on an isolated individual standpoint

raw bone
formal ravine
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If i am 5% behind a mage, but my entire 5 man setup brings it up to 10% higher, then there's areason to play around it

dense elbow
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I litteraly talked about the bigger movements down the whole ladder.

formal ravine
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You can't claim just because spec A is performing better than spec B suddenly the 5 man set up doesn't matter on the grand total of it

dense elbow
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Things will be balanced around the raid

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That is our baseline for M+ balance

formal ravine
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Since when ?

dense elbow
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Since ever

formal ravine
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Really? was warrior in season 1 the top spec in m+?

plush zephyr
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daddy noxiv plays phys only = i play phys only

formal ravine
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Cus it was the top in raid

dense elbow
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Are you daft?

formal ravine
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You just claimed m+ is tuned around raid

dense elbow
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Raid performance = M+ performance

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NO

formal ravine
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Lmaoo nvm i am not talkign to you anymore you got no clue

dense elbow
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I said we would be balanced around raid performance

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not m+

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That is our baseline

formal ravine
dense elbow
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Exactly

formal ravine
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It's okay keep yapping random shit

dense elbow
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Not sure if you are trolling or not

plush zephyr
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I haven't played my derpy fury in like 2 weeks and I miss it

dense elbow
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Play it, it is fun

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it just sucks

formal ravine
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You claim the baseline for m+ is the raid, when boomie has been in the bottom of the raid entire season

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So yeah you got no clue what you're talking about

plush zephyr
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good job fury guy you did so many interrupts sadge

dense elbow
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I think you are a bit dumb atm, Yannis. Balance baseline is set to the raid. What dont you get?

plush zephyr
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baseline

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for the season then they change it (or attempt) for m+ but won't fully change something just for m+

formal ravine
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And that doesn't matter for shit when meta on m+ is shaped.

dense elbow
formal ravine
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Warrior was simming rank 1 on this raid early on

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Was it in any form relfected on m+?

dense elbow
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Oh my

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god

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RAID PERFORMANCE =/= M+ PERFORMANCE

formal ravine
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Then stop saying that the m+ will be shaped based on raid

dense elbow
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I dont even

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There got to be hell of a language barrier here somewhere or core misunderstanding of the point of the matter at hand.

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Ok, so lets try this. Do you agree that classes are balanced around the raid first?

formal ravine
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Sure

dense elbow
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Do you understand that raid performance, being bad or good, doesnt equal being great in M+

formal ravine
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sure

dense elbow
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Do you understand that warrior can be top in raid, and bottom in M+

formal ravine
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Sure

dense elbow
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Aight, do you understand that monk buff is a 8% mod on warrior DPS?

formal ravine
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Sure

dense elbow
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Do you understand that warrior DPS will be based on tuning in the raid, where that buff will always be present?

formal ravine
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Which brings us to the point of the seperation of m+ with phys and magic dmg

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I will want to play more with a monk this upcoming season than before

dense elbow
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And that, for 99% is bad

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for the 1% nothing changes

formal ravine
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And it's not bad

dense elbow
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It really is, cause it limits options

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it doesnt widen

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it limits

formal ravine
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It actually opens up options

dense elbow
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How so

formal ravine
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Because before we were applying to 5keys, any 5 keys most of the time if dmg was close enough.

dense elbow
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how does making you able to play with less classes without being punished make it better?

formal ravine
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Now if i see in my queue a monk, versus a mage, even i the mage is 5% ahead of themonk, i will take the monk.

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And so will others to sum their grand total of 5 players higher.

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And if i see a monk plus a feral in a key, my chances of going in that key are higher, even if i am 5% behind an unholy

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Now there's still a chance they pick the unholy (just an example)

dense elbow
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But that already is the case

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All you do is cement that issue

radiant plank
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gl finding a monk from grp finder

dense elbow
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you reinforce it, you limit the flex

plush zephyr
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yeah it doesn't change much tbh

formal ravine
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Yes, but there is more wiggle room going on right now. I sometimes will invite a mage here and there

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I will invite an unholy

dense elbow
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And that is a good thing, cause it goes both ways

formal ravine
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Bubt htey will never invite me for example

radiant plank
plush zephyr
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just run your own keys and build your own comps, make your own friends and push heavy

formal ravine
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That's another story

plush zephyr
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fuck hoping other ppl accept you

plush zephyr
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changed the game for me

formal ravine
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Again another story

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We are talking on a pure pug persrpective i believe

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If it's about playing in a set group, specs barely matter since you play with friends

plush zephyr
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which is purely built on how you search/and/or make keys.

formal ravine
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There's people pushing title on aug, do you see augs running in pugs?

plush zephyr
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fits in the conversation.

formal ravine
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Yes but you're talking about a pre set group, in a pre set group i sometimes go play slayer fury in any key level cus they do not mind

gusty maple
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idc about some silly willy buffs I just want to see some dam when I hit cds

plush zephyr
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I'm talking about not pugging and getting a core of people together so you don't have to have in your mind "im an off meta spec oh no who am i gonna play with"

formal ravine
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But if you are talking about NOT pugging, this was never an issue in the first place?

dense elbow
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In a PuG world, where do you think it is more likely you be invited:

A world where you are

A) 8% weaker, cause no synergy

or

B) 3% weaker, cause no synergy

formal ravine
dense elbow
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Sadly, tuning is based on the raid tho

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So you arent stronger

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(compared to current)

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we are just weaker compared to current

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as we will be tuned 3% weaker

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we aint being reworked

plush zephyr
formal ravine
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Yes but that's an assumption you're making

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You do not know if we will be tuned around the monk

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Or around the warrior

dense elbow
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That is very likely

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it is extremely likely

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I doubt we will be 8% stronger than anyone in raid

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that aint happening

formal ravine
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For example our tier set on slayer got nerfed, but i don't think it got nerfed cus monk got a 3% buff on mystic touch.

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IT got nerfed cus it was overperfoming within the warrior, excluding external modifiers.

dense elbow
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No, final tuning will be affected

formal ravine
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Now if this 8% buff, ends up within 2 weeks making all of the raid run hunters and warriors, sure you get the point of they tune around it.

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But this is something speculative again

plush zephyr
dense elbow
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Lets say we are doing 85 damage, and mage is doing 100, all raid buffs included. We would be ideally tuned to 100, raid buff increases us to say 90, now we get balanced +10 to reach 100. We are 95 in M+ without a monk
We lost value from balance tuning

dense elbow
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Numbers failed, but point stands

plush zephyr
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looool

dense elbow
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I am just tired man

plush zephyr
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I hope you're well funky:)

dense elbow
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I will be better if the monk buff gets reverted gladge

formal ravine
dense elbow
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No, I dont think that

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because

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final tuning

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hasnt been done

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Lets say we get a 6% aura buff, as final tuning

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then I argue

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we lost 3% on that

plush zephyr
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I played a ton of brew in df could move over if i wanted, I just don't like the dps/heals of monk

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which is why i stopped playing it

dense elbow
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Cause goal is to get us to a point in raid, the score of a 100

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if monk buffs cowers 8 points of that gap, instead of 5 - those extra 3 is denied us in final tuning

formal ravine
# dense elbow we lost 3% on that

But again it's not revolving aroudn the monk, and that is my point here, that we cannot think that we will be shit cus of the monk. IF we are shit i believe it's 90% cus of the spec tuning than external factors.

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10% i can attribute to external factors ofcourse

hardy cargo
dense elbow
formal ravine
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But to bring it back to the point before the final tuning as you said, on a scenario that right now, we are 3% behind the mage WITHOUT a monk. And the monk brings us 3% ABOVE the mage, wouldn't you want to play with a monk ?

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Again the numbers above are hypothesis not accurate

dense elbow
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If that is the case, in this scenario, we will be tuned down

formal ravine
dense elbow
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Raid is the baseline, we shine too much, we get brought down

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It is a very fair assumption to make

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lets be honest here

formal ravine
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You say that but don't forget raid is a bit how certain things play.

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In undermine as i said warrior was simming rank 1, and rank 2 respectively for arms and fury.

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We were not 1 and 2 in action cus of how certain fights played

dense elbow
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What is your poooooooooooooooint

formal ravine
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So we cannot assume we'll be shit just BECAUSE

dense elbow
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My point is our balance is tuned around this buff

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that is bad

formal ravine
dense elbow
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I dont care if monk takes us to top DPS ever

formal ravine
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You claim we are tuned around a monk, we are not.

dense elbow
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I care that it is the monk buff forcing that

formal ravine
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But you're making an innacurate statement

dense elbow
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We will be tuned around this buff existing

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saying otherwise is silly

formal ravine
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It will affect about 10% of our tuning

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You are making it sound like the warrior existence depends on this buff.

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And that's wild

dense elbow
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It is another stick in the wheel, yes.

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It makes things worse

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not better

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that is why I make a deal out of it

formal ravine
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So you're just dooming without a basis, other than you think it affects our spec so much that it's detrimental.

dense elbow
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No.

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It is extremely logical to presume the consequences

dense elbow
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I am not saying it will make all phy classes weaker, nor stronger. What I am saying it further limits options. It reinforces a meta, and for no gains.

plush zephyr
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selling this 270 shit from bfa on my alt with a bunch of 670 is making me sweat

dense elbow
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Selling?

plush zephyr
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wait why do i give a shit

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vendoring whatever

dense elbow
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Oh, you never know

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you might need it

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better keep it around in the bank

plush zephyr
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you get it lol

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mog farming for alts

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so they look cool when i play them

hardy cargo
formal ravine
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Just put in the bank anything you don't have equiped u guess?

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So no risk of selling actual gear

plush zephyr
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lol

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my bank is slam full

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well my warbounds is

formal ravine
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With what lmao.. mine's empty

dense elbow
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I sold the boots of my BDK, you know what? I am doing my weekly keys with my new fancy Legion shoes

formal ravine
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Mine's emptier than my life

plush zephyr
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ig i could bank this stuff in the personal, but, then id forget about it, cause its an alt

formal ravine
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Also it will make more room in your bags to run more stuff

midnight sierra
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make SMF relevant again so we can xmog thundefury

formal ravine
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So win-win

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Or just make 1 handed swords mogable

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Without SMF?

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1 handed weapons* not swords

midnight sierra
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nonsense

oblique thistle
plush zephyr
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arms forever and always = 1 big sword, even though they should be able to mog every weapon cause lore

dense elbow
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cause lore?

plush zephyr
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yeah like, a master... of arms?

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weapons?

dense elbow
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Arms-men didnt use all weapons, only the ones they trained with

formal ravine
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Yeah i love me a wizzards staff that i use to kung fu with

dense elbow
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wdum

oblique thistle
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I could understand keeping SMF for anything other than transmog if it has some super big impact on our gameplay, like any meaningful impact on our rotation, but it doesn't
It just tries to bring one handers up to the standard set by two handers
Your rotation on SMF compared to titans grip is the exact same and doesn't even feel different

dense elbow
wintry smelt
plush zephyr
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i waaaant the gmod mounttt

wintry smelt
wintry smelt
plush maple
quiet breach
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so its faster

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lighter smaller weapons = faster

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makes sense to me

white relic
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maybe smf if there are two ultra cantrip 1Hs and no 2H alternativ

tepid cedar
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Hey guys anyone have any razer keyboards… my k100 shit the bed and I just got a huntsman v3 pro. Razer a good product line. Always been used to Corsair stuff

bitter palm
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used to be terrible

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they stepped up big time

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recently

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best mice on the market pretty much

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good kbs

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obv u could get a better custom if u are willing to spend some time

warm crag
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ye but if you're looking at custom kbs youre not going to razer

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only complaint i have for my shit is that the plastic/leathery weird thing peels off easily but its trivial to fix yourself

bleak gale
plush maple
storm rune
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Thats a crazy take

limber oar
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False

modest condor
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wow has storylines?

limber oar
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Based

storm rune
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More like afternoon specials at the local chapel

tepid cedar
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bruh this some shit

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i leveld a 1st ever hunter for this event. so at 590 ilvl i went to dummie. legit bursts about 1/3 of my bised out warrior

thick fossil
sullen dove
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oh boy avatar is off cooldown time to do 20% more damage than I normally do

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dogshit flatline specs

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wah ra bad

tepid cedar
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whats a godo casting class to use to farm old raids with

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gonna level 1 more for this event

coarse nest
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Passive 30% always plus double jump spam

tepid cedar
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i have hutner- basicaly all melee classes, so if i was gonna do 1 was gona do a lock mage

coarse nest
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Can you run around with burning rush at 1hp or does it cancel?

plush zephyr
pallid hull
sullen tendon
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Tww has a story?

plush zephyr
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I dunno. I quite enjoyed the undermine story line.

sullen tendon
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So far they have set up 5 different stories to happen but haven’t done anything with them

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Nothing done with Coreway

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Nothing done with elf trolls forgot their name

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Nothing done with ararthi

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Nothing done with “where is the rest of the horde and alliance”

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Nothing done with anduin

pallid hull
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Only thing that i remember from cinematics are xalatath feets

coarse nest
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Speaking of

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I made a naughty macro `/run if not xalfr then xalfr=CreateFrame("ModelScene", nil, UIParent) xalfr:SetPoint("TOP") xalfr:SetSize(512, 512) xalac = xalfr:CreateActor() xalac:SetModelByFileID(5159886) end xalac:SetAnimation(1138) xalac:SetPosition(2,0,0)`

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It puts her feet on the screen in game lmao

plush maple
sullen dove
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And half that other shit isn’t even a topic fym coreway

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it’s literally just a tunnel

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that’s it gz

south kayak
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They talked a bit about it at the start

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but that's all it is

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just a tunnel

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and it's ruined

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what more do you want lol

sullen tendon
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wtf are the patches even for

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the world even is literally just killing shit already in the zones

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the trollbane stuff was just made to retcon him into being neutered

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half the shit in the arathi highlands quests were "why the fuck are we doing this?"

south kayak
sullen dove
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I mean it’s meaningless shit but like it’s there lol

south kayak
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and it's all part of the same story

sullen dove
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And idk what one tiny village means hallowfall is huge

sullen tendon
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they are using tww to do nothing but set up future storylines

sullen dove
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and all of it’s relevant

south kayak
dusky moon
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Ok so

sullen tendon
south kayak
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Ok, then don't play it

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i don't know what to tell you

sullen tendon
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but like numbers go up

south kayak
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Why you are so upset about this

dusky moon
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When do warriors make their everyone ping?

south kayak
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it doesn't matter

dusky moon
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Do you guys really want to be behind dks and mages?

south kayak
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lmfao

dusky moon
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It's time to grab the community's attention over dumb things

south kayak
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guys please appeal to unban this random guy

dusky moon
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Ping to ask for tri wielding

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Hold a third weapon with your teeth

south kayak
sullen dove
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Zoro 4 sword style

sullen tendon
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its unfortunate that blizzard finished arthas, and illidan, and the old gods storylines and now they cant piggyback off of the 30 year old stories made by the old blood of blizzard and all the new stuff is the best they can do and its alwasy just "war is actually bad???"

south kayak
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or rework

sullen tendon
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oh my god guys

south kayak
sullen tendon
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killing people is bad?

south kayak
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that's beating a dead horse at this point

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it was for a while too

sullen dove
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what 30 year old story there are like 4 semi decent plot lines in the whole game

sullen tendon
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The only time people liked world of warcraft was when there is conflict

sullen dove
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And all of em have been covered

south kayak
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Well, there is conflict

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not the one you want

sullen tendon
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there isnt

south kayak
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but there is

sullen tendon
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whats the conflict

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its not a conflict

sullen dove
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Void lords???

sullen tendon
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its litearlly jsut following a purple bich around and never stoping her

south kayak
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How is this not a conflict lol

sullen dove
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and eventually Titans?

south kayak
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what are you talking about

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i give up

sullen dove
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We def gonna fight them titans

sullen tendon
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the power of friendship will save us!

sullen dove
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bro is mad just to be mad

olive wraith
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We gonna feet the titans

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Xalatoes bis

sullen tendon
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they stopped making characters that are actually evil and it sucks

sullen dove
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there are no actual evil characters

sullen tendon
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every "villain" now has to be " I was actaully not hte bad guy i was helping you beat the real bad guy"

sullen dove
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They’re all just victims of circumstance!!!

olive wraith
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Fyrak?

sullen dove
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^ lmao

sullen tendon
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Fyrak?

south kayak
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You have to know that not everyone thinks they're evil and not everyone is going to be evil, people are complicated and have a lot of things going for them

sullen tendon
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that chracter that no one knew existed until 2 patches into dragon flight and then we kill him a patch later

south kayak
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Not just mustache twirling evil

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I don't mind when that happens but it's getting too much

sullen dove
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And yet he was a cool pure evil character with a banger raid fight

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oh no arthas is so evil guys

south kayak
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Real

sullen dove
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He just picked up a cursed sword/helmet

olive wraith
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You’re moving goal post my guy

sullen tendon
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yea

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exactly

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cool evil villain who just loves being evil

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blizzard kills him in 2 patches

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gone forever from the story

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replaced by neutral im actually helping you by being bad villain

olive wraith
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So what are you mad at?

sullen dove
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And there have never been other pure evil characters unless they’re like demons or something g

olive wraith
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Blizz recycling shit. Or Blizz not continuing a villain

south kayak
sullen dove
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xal is pretty much on that line she just hasn’t done much yet

sullen tendon
south kayak
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I don't think i've seen anything redeemable about xalatath so far

sullen dove
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they redeemed illidan in legion

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He’s a bad villain guys

olive wraith
#

So fyrak is good then

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I’m confused

sullen tendon
sullen dove
#

He sure was evil to us in tbc

south kayak
#

Illidan isn't evil but he's a "ends justify the means" guy

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Some can argue he is

sullen tendon
#

arthas is evil

sullen dove
#

also nah

sullen dove
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Just picked up bad juju sword

sullen tendon
#

yea frostmourne was the only reason arthas went crazy

sullen dove
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and the helmet u right

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stratholme was some real shit ong

olive wraith
#

Was sark not evil

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Or raz

sullen dove
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a bit but mostly just daddy issues

sullen tendon
#

theres also the problem that blizzard is facing where they have killed or "retired" all of the cool original story chracters and they havent replaced them with equals

sullen dove
#

Rasz pretty evil yea

olive wraith
#

Legit asking

sullen tendon
#

they tried in bfa but didnt capitalize on it

limber oar
#

I think the concept of truly evil “murder and destroying worlds and civilizations just for the fun of it” characters can get really stale really fast

sullen dove
#

that’s some final fantasy shit

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every villain just wants to kill for the sake of killing

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Boring as fuck

sullen tendon
#

raszzageth = killed in same patch we met her, Sarkareth = killed in 2 patches after we met him

south kayak
sullen dove
#

ok what characters last multiple patches

south kayak
#

He went crazy with vengeance before he picked up the sword

limber oar
#

Theyre nice every once in a while like Sliske from RS3 if anyone knows that dude is a joker level villain who’s fucking with you for the vibe

sullen dove
#

like almost none are more than an expansion from their conception in wow as it is

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Not counting wc3 shit

south kayak
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he destroyed the ships his armies needed to go back just because of vengenace

sullen tendon
#

reminds me of someone

south kayak
#

and then killed the mercs helping him

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come on

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I shouldn't be posting like this, now nobody can follow my posts lol

sullen dove
#

Garrosh started being evil in mop and was styled on by a cheating thrall in wod questline

south kayak
#

Nah, I disagree with this, Arthas has always been sus sometimes. He went crazy with vengeance before he picked up the sword, he destroyed the ships his armies needed to go back just because of vengenace, and then killed the mercs helping him
come on

sullen dove
#

That’s like one of the longest ones

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Guldan maybe longer

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Start of wod halfway into legion

limber oar
sullen dove
#

almost no other villains are relevant more than a few patches as is

sullen tendon
#

"its ok that i cheated because im the better person"\

olive wraith
#

Yet another day bobbyboon just hates on the game but still plays for some reason

limber oar
#

LOL

sullen dove
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I mean I don’t think garrosh was controversial he was just bad period

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But was just lame thrall had to use lightning

sullen dove
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no real orc fight

sullen tendon
#

thats why they made thrall cheat

modest condor
#

i really liked when people were complaining about nzoth not getting a full expansion but only a single patch which didnt do the old god justice

#

meanwhile cthun and yog saron

sullen tendon
#

its always fuckign nzoth

sullen dove
#

ya nobody cares about any of the other old gods

south kayak
sullen tendon
#

they are trying to bring nzoth back again too

sullen dove
#

relevant 1 patch

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oh actually forgot sylvanas probably longest standing villain

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since like legion sorta into sl

olive wraith
#

Soon we’ll have an expansion where there’s a massive council fight of corrupted “champions”

chilly fractal
#

Faction Champs

sullen tendon
#

theres going to be a void lord raid after dimensius and thers going to be a council fight where its all the old gods and they do a illgynoth 2.0 thing where they just have arms now

chilly fractal
#

Corrupted Faction Champs

olive wraith
#

Mythic will have a 20 target boss fight

modest condor
olive wraith
#

Raid comp vs raid comp

sullen tendon
sullen dove
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think they could do a coolish old god council fight but don’t think it could actually be just the old gods

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Prolly will just be a bunch of big ol voidy boys with similar styles idk

south kayak
outer talon
#

Corrupted champions, but you fight them in a hellfire assault style gauntlet :kappa

south kayak
sullen tendon
sullen dove
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Yknow can just be any voidy fish

south kayak
sullen dove
#

not just nzoth fish

south kayak
#

@chilly fractal What's the reason he bombed Theramore, seems out of his character

sullen dove
#

smorc strong

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get off my continent

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something something

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ima keep it a buck if garrosh didn’t die he prolly woulda gotten to teldrassil before sylv

sullen tendon
#

he would have

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thers no doubt

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he would have renamed kalimdor to new draenor

chilly fractal
#

The Siege of Orgrimmar cinematic lives in the back of my head… I constantly remember hearing it like a thousand times at Blizzcon 2013

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They just kept playing it over and over on the screens throughout the convention center

south kayak
#

I don't know if makes sense for Garrosh to bomb theramore in terms of his character

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Maybe I'm wrong

sullen tendon
south kayak
chilly fractal
#

Great way to end the greatest expansion

sullen tendon
#

thats a lie

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legion is the greatest expansion

chilly fractal
brittle crow
#

all is right in the world

sullen tendon
# chilly fractal Hard disagree

mop and wod are the poster children for "what are you doing blizzard everyone hates this subs are going down!" and then in retrospective people say "actually it was pretty good"

brittle crow
#

nobody ever thought wod had bad content
wod was bad because there was no content xd

sullen tendon
#

leigon was just "it was good" the entire way through

chilly fractal
#

Legion sucked

south kayak
brittle crow
sullen tendon
chilly fractal
plush ice
#

Legion was so bad, idk how anyone could think doing lfr from previous tiers was good or fun

sullen tendon
#

legion single handedly saved the game

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if bfa was right after wod the game would have been unrecoverable

plush ice
#

I've never had less fun playing wow then the first year of legion

sullen tendon
#

insane

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this is the opposite problem

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people loved it during the exapc ans say they hate it arfter lol

plush ice
#

Oh yay, doing lfr helya cause I don't have my legendary yet and we're in the next tier, but no one knows how drip rates work but everyone assumes raiding gas a high chance, so lfr grind here we come

#

So awful

sullen tendon
#

lmao

#

you people are nuts

dense elbow
#

Loved Legion. Doesn't mean I enjoy the bad parts of it.

plush ice
#

I still remember getting my legendary off of lfr helya and not being excited, just utterly relieved

sullen tendon
#

my favorite part about legion was randomly getting legendaries and people being pissed about it

dense elbow
#

Yeah, that wasnt my fav part. Cause it made my warriors basically unplayable for so long it hurt.

plush ice
#

Sure, the end of legion was great, legendary vendor, cool beans, doesn't fix how awful the beginning was

sullen tendon
#

god i loved legion

chilly fractal
#

The beginning was so unbelievably shit

dense elbow
#

To be fair, arms on launch, those mortal strikes slapped

sullen tendon
#

getting legendaries from the blingtron daily box was awesome

chilly fractal
smoky vale
#

@sullen dove burnice

chilly fractal
#

Adding a 3rd spec to farming AP wasn’t going to happen

dense elbow
#

Huehuehue

chilly fractal
#

Which is one of the many reasons I quit raiding and doing M+

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Just focused on mount farming and casual play a night a week or so from a little after Nighthold came out until pretty much Shadowlands with a couple small periods of trying to get back into it again

sullen tendon
#

didnt want to farm in the game about farming

dusky moon
#

.@WarcraftDevs @BlizzardCSEU_EN
You fools just banned one of the people who actually enjoys your game and spends a ton of time helping others to enjoy it as well.

Justice for Norrinir! You shouldn't get suspended/banned for simply investigating how the game works!

earnest canyon
#

JUSTICE FOR GARY

dense elbow
#

TLDR, exploiter got banned?

warm crag
#

its really good

opaque crag
#

Wait, what did I miss? I don't play mage, so I don't know this drama

dusky moon
chilly fractal
sullen tendon
#

i think arcane needs some sympathy buffs for this

compact knot
sullen tendon
#

and fury needs a nerf

warm crag
#

mage tc ran software that is against tos and got banned for it then they @ everyone pinged it as if someone died

sullen tendon
#

no particular reason

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just fuck fury

south kayak
#

Why would you risk using a software against ToS?

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especially if you're a theorycrafter or whatever

warm crag
#

lots of software is against tos

olive wraith
#

Crit got banned not too long ago

warm crag
south kayak
dense elbow
#

He got banned for using a VPN?
monkahmm

warm crag
#

no

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he straight up did use disruptive tos breaking software probably

compact knot
#

i dont think he did anything personally, just another critcake scenario

dense elbow
#

Aight, justified ban then

opaque crag
#

Do we know exactly what software he was using?

compact knot
opaque crag
#

Or is all this just hearsay?

chilly fractal
warm crag
compact knot
#

porom just sucks dick at sending messages

opaque crag
#

lolol

olive wraith
#

Idr what triggered crits ban tbh

summer quail
south kayak
#

What did Crit get "banned" for?

warm crag
olive wraith
#

Think it was software use or something

sullen tendon
#

turns out all the top players use rotation bots and spell macro exploits 😏

compact knot
compact knot
olive wraith
#

This is why streamers should be like crit. Have camera on mouse hand

compact knot
#

he literally just theory crafts and farms mounts and mid tier m+

opaque crag
#

I mean, I don't know the situation, but if he was hacking or something, Blizz can ban away

sullen tendon
south kayak
#

Who said anything about a rotation bot

dense elbow
#

To automate it for him?

compact knot
#

who the fuck said he was using a rotation bot

#

lmfao

sullen tendon
#

either automating things or doing things you arent supposed to

compact knot
#

he has no reason to

sullen tendon
#

so why did he do it?

compact knot
#

he didnt do it

dense elbow
#

What if he only modified his soundfiles to moan when presses frostbolt?

south kayak
#

Khazix is arguing that it's fake news

sullen tendon
#

so if he didnt do it why did he get banned

south kayak
#

We don't know anything at this point

compact knot
south kayak
#

it's all speculation

sullen tendon
compact knot
#

false bans happen all the time bro

#

noting

opaque crag
#

Why even speculate on something people don't know anything about???

compact knot
#

which is why he got unbanned

sullen tendon
#

then why is he banned

south kayak
#

It's not simple as that

olive wraith
#

The auto ban got crit

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Could have gotten the mage dude too

sullen tendon
#

ah yes false bans

#

they ahppen al the time

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so much that no one in my guild for years has been falsely banned

compact knot
olive wraith
#

How big is your guild

sullen tendon
#

999 people

olive wraith
#

999 good sample size for multi million pop

smoky vale
#

man i left the mage discord

modest condor
#

literal proof of false bans existing in critcake but this guy has never had a false ban in his guild so they dont exist

compact knot
#

^

smoky vale
#

i cant see the drama

smoky vale
#

gg

sullen tendon
#

why would he be false banned in the first place

modest condor
sullen tendon
#

what was he under suspicion of

warm crag
#

this is a true statement

compact knot
#

terrible take bobbyboon

olive wraith
smoky vale
sullen tendon
#

just randomyl

dense elbow
#

Yep, all random

sullen tendon
#

youd think more pople would be affected if thats true

warm crag
sullen tendon
#

weird thing for blizzard to implement

olive wraith
#

Background apps triggering stuff I guess

compact knot
#

you just dont hear about it because its random players

smoky vale
olive wraith
#

Crit literally doesn’t know what triggered his ban

sullen tendon
#

"a bot that goes around and causes problems for our paying subscribers by banning their accounts will drive up sales"

limber oar
#

Actual brainlet take LOOL

sullen tendon
#

im sure the autoban bot doesnt target people for specific things

compact knot
#

gulp

smoky vale
#

gulp

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what is the message now

compact knot
#

prob the same

sullen tendon
#

the auto ban bot is a robot in the blizzard offices and types in a random number between 1-10,000,000 and whatever number it lands on is the character id that gets banned

south kayak
young swan
#

after appeal

south kayak
#

That's a good point

#

lol

young swan
#

bro did some stupid shit

dense elbow
south kayak
#

Xan only one thinking here

sullen tendon
#

just wierd that the rng ban bot ends up banning so many streamers and high end players so often

opaque crag
#

So from what I can gather, this Porom guy is really bad at public messages lol

sullen tendon
#

how can they be so lucky?

smoky vale
#

how is 1 person so often

#

what

compact knot
#

2 people = so often

#

and like 5 months apart

smoky vale
#

bro the mage was tampering with game

#

thats not counted

sullen tendon
#

so it wasnt an auto ban?

dense elbow
sullen tendon
#

it was manual?

south kayak
sullen tendon
#

if it was an auto ban then the rng ban bot should be banning more people for the same thing

olive wraith
south kayak
#

Xan's point makes this more likely to be a true ban

sullen tendon
#

ok so you say it happens to people all the time but because its more important when it happens to a streamer those statitics dont count and we should only look at the 1/10000000 streamer getting banned which means its a false abn

south kayak
#

No false ban is banning someone permanently

#

then reducing the sentence to 18 after appeal

smoky vale
#

no one has said it happens to people all the time

south kayak
warm crag
# compact knot

ya idk u cant just stealth edit that message in after mass pinging everyone

south kayak
#

lmfao

compact knot
#

he hasnt changed it

#

so

warm crag
#

needs to be studied how to adress a big mass of people in the most unbelievably wrong way possible

warm crag
compact knot
#

yeah this was awful

warm crag
#

oh yeah he clearly hasnt

compact knot
#

you dont see

sullen tendon
#

warriors get abused for years and deal with it and mages get 1 little ban and have a mental break down

compact knot
#

the giant

south kayak
#

Spongie

compact knot
#

fucking wall of text

#

below it

south kayak
#

thoughts on the DK mass ping

compact knot
#

that was added

#

as norrinirs response

sullen tendon
#

poor mages...

warm crag
sullen tendon
#

blizzard never cares about mages...

#

such a sad case of class abuse...

opaque crag
#

Yeah, it would have been nice if we got to read the actual message lol

south kayak
smoky vale
compact knot
#

this is the edited part

warm crag
# compact knot fucking wall of text

you understand that you should not mass ping everyone with a stupid reason and then try to addendum something reasonable as a simple edit afterward

#

no one will read the edit

smoky vale
#

porom is unable to type

south kayak
#

Yeah, most people tagged already read the first message

#

then closed tab or something

smoky vale
#

posted funny reactions then moved on

south kayak
#

^

compact knot
#

also the reactions should not be allowed

opaque crag
#

Dang, if the mage guy is telling the truth, that really sucks for him. Hope he gets his account back, or at least some clarification from Blizz

warm crag
#

why not

south kayak
#

after seeing that

compact knot
#

because people where reactiong to messages with obscenities

#

like a penis

#

for example

south kayak
#

What's wrong with a penis

dense elbow
#

So turn it on to server only reactions?

warm crag
compact knot
#

that too

olive wraith
#

I love reactions

dense elbow
#

Only ones allowed to react in here, is the evil overlords sadge

compact knot
south kayak
undone flower
olive wraith
south kayak
dense elbow
coarse nest
#

I feel like we should be able to use the feature like external emojis and reacts, we self police pretty well in this discord and people can easily just be banned for abusing explicit emojis

dense elbow
#

Do we really need external emojis?

coarse nest
#

It’s not like our mods don’t monitor the chat

undone flower
south kayak
#

Am I wrong or were you able to just ping at everyone way back

coarse nest
#

And we ping them anytime someone is being ridiculously unhinged

smoky vale
#

i mean i dont want to be mass pinged for grip is a raid buff

south kayak
smoky vale
#

?

south kayak
#

We ping them

#

when someone is spamming channels with scams

dense elbow
#

What does that have to do with reactions tho

south kayak
#

and if they're being unhinged

undone flower
#

Free Steam 50$

opaque crag
#

I'd be for adding reactions, personally. I know I wouldn't use them to be weird, but I can't speak for everyone else lmao

summer quail
#

idk emotes always end up being giga aids

south kayak
olive wraith
#

Lmao

ebon junco
#

wat

smoky vale
#

goat gif

ebon junco
#

it's just a fish

summer quail
indigo quarry
#

thats not a fish

undone flower
#

Nah that’s a D

dusky moon
#

The mage player was allegedly using AHK to get info from the PTR which is absolutely against TOS but it's the PTR, seems like there should be some leeway

opaque crag
#

Watch the whole gif pls. I know people have like no attention span, but come on lol

south kayak
dense elbow
#

AHK is what? For us non-exploiters?

dusky moon
#

Auto hot key

coarse nest
#

Careful happy you’ll get Gio five sevend’ lmao

ebon junco
#

AHK doesn't get you banned unless you are using it for actual advantage or like PvP or such

dusky moon
#

It bots your rotation

indigo quarry
#

its clearly not AHK

smoky vale
#

@dusky moon come wiggle it

dusky moon
#

I'm good lol

dense elbow
#

monkahmm auto hot key, sounds automated

warm crag
dusky moon
#

Basically yeah lmao

smoky vale
warm crag
#

bit contradictory no

smoky vale
#

extremely

dusky moon
opaque crag
#

Allegedly? From who? Who's alleging this? Someone else I don't know lol?

indigo quarry
#

it was only a matter of time before his story had contradiction

south kayak
indigo quarry
dusky moon
#

Sigh

#

Anyway

indigo quarry
#

😄

smoky vale
#

hi ppaww

dense elbow
#

Who cares tho, he got banned - apparently for a good reason. Should not have played with fire and get burnt gladge

indigo quarry
#

hi Gio57

undone flower
#

I know he used cheat engine to give him 1000000 gold

ebon junco
#

cheat engine fly through wall for mount farm

coarse nest
#

Botting gets you banned!?

#

Wild concept

dense elbow
#

Only if you dont pay a monthly sub for each one

south kayak
modest condor
#

real

dense elbow
#

A respectable reason to be banned for sure, who wouldnt do the same? We rally to his cause

#

warrior should move very fast

warm crag
#

lmao they removed reacts

#

mods got clown reacted once too much

undone flower
#

But our rally is weak rn

coarse nest
#

Can we bring back floating characters spelling out websites in the main city

south kayak
#

Wait, stormforged can react?

compact knot
#

yes

sullen tendon
south kayak
#

I think that's the first silm react i've ever seen

#

we're seeing history

undone flower
modest condor
#

first time for everything

dense elbow
#

I was there when Silm reacted

indigo quarry
#

he is abusing his power

modest condor
#

what you gonna do about it

south kayak
indigo quarry
#

no idea what i can even do about it

#

so nothing for now

dense elbow
#

Careful, Ppaww, or he will react to your messages critcake

sullen tendon
undone flower
#

Wdym « for now »

indigo quarry
#

i will get a showertought

south kayak
indigo quarry
#

and its gonna be epic

#

or maybe i wake up from my sleep tonight and write the idea on the sheet of paper

smoky vale
south kayak
indigo quarry
smoky vale
#

would be funny if they removed invites to the server

dusky moon
smoky vale
#

like the dk discord did when frost was nerfed in s1

modest condor
#

do it

south kayak
smoky vale
#

do it

indigo quarry
#

no balls

dusky moon
#

IM GONNA SEND IT

south kayak
#

LMAO

indigo quarry
#

lol who did it ?

south kayak
#

I saw that

indigo quarry
#

i didnt had time to read

bitter palm
#

its joever

south kayak
#

but it didn't ping anyone

smoky vale
#

LMAO

south kayak
#

Yeah it doesnt work

bitter palm
#

it automods it ig

south kayak
#

just gets deleted

south kayak
#

Can stormforged ping everyone

smoky vale
#

lets hope brew didnt get a timeout

#

o7

south kayak
#

First silmarilen server ping

#

lets go

modest condor
#

the only people that use at everyone are bots so it's just on the auto delete list

dusky moon
#

I hope @coarse nest got timed out

modest condor
dusky moon
#

Get bent nerd

smoky vale
#

does it time out people

#

fuck you lariss

modest condor
#

it mutes them yeah

dusky moon
#

Fuck you gio

smoky vale
#

praying on his downfall

modest condor
#

you can see brew's roles

south kayak
#

Brewjj got timed out for an hour

smoky vale
#

gg

south kayak
#

gg

dusky moon
#

@coarse nest an hour lmao

south kayak
#

Brewjj DM me

dusky moon
#

He's gonna blow up my DMs

smoky vale
#

do it

south kayak
#

he's gonna DM everyone

olive wraith
#

Tuning tomorrow guys yall ready?copium

smoky vale
#

remember the day gio57 got shot

bitter palm
#

(i forgot)

south kayak
#

I once got muted by archi for 5 mins

smoky vale
#

larias i got shot one day

#

it was not fun

dusky moon
#

Did you deserve it

indigo quarry
#

@coarse nest hi

smoky vale
#

no

bitter palm
dusky moon
#

Somehow I don't believe that

south kayak
dense elbow
#

Did you send your steamcard giftaway to the wrong mod?

smoky vale
#

i was making a funny bc a bot posted a steam gift card

#

i got banned

warm crag
#

@oblique trail 🪞

south kayak
warm crag
#

of kalandra

smoky vale
#

i said something like

#

my steam gift card

dense elbow
#

Admin was not having that

#

was their card

#

not yours

warm crag
#

the ban shouldve been permanent

south kayak
#

^

dense elbow
#

know your place scum

smoky vale
#

wtf

south kayak
#

I meant to react to funky

oblique trail
south kayak
#

not spongie

smoky vale
south kayak
#

too far

oblique trail
#

on the mirror

#

what do you see in the mirror?

#

a buddy

south kayak
#

You deserve to be here Gio

warm crag
#

i see you buddy

#

little mouse

#

run along

smoky vale
#

@warm crag why do you hate me

oblique trail
warm crag
#

no proof of me hating you

south kayak
#

Spongie hates everyone

warm crag
smoky vale
warm crag
#

you have linked a true statement

smoky vale
#

why should i have been permanently banned