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its never too late to change for the better
Are you sure it's for the "better"?
it absolutely is
meta slaves
Yes and?

Nooo ... mw main wants buffs to be invited to keys XD
until they get a proper defensive, no one will invite them anyways
Lemme keep my dreams... at least until ptr / tuning confirms "meh" status
Any group with a warrior will want a monk, so if you got a friends who play say a BDK, mage and druid - you will want that MW
see the system is working!
The only cost? Warrior must play with Monk
or be 8% weaker flat, well, or just never get the bonus in an efficent way, as there is no guarentee the MW will apply the debuff at all targets at all times
But at least on bosses, most of the time
Lol, sounds like MW/monk just became mini-aug for warrior/phys classws
Yeah that's why this buff is bad
and they should revert it
Unless they're going to tune around it, it's a bad change
real
It is just another step in the direction of cementing phy classes to only play with phy classes. Sure, it already is an advantage ganging up, there is synergy - not doing so punishes your DPS. The problem is that Warriors being not really wanted in any other comp is reinforced.
Our options shrink, it doesnt widen with the change. It is further segregation of Magic vs Phy, meanwhile hybdrids live the high life.
What makes it even worse? Warrior isn't the hypercarry. We are simply just another buff-bot element of the composition. Meaning our damage isn't what makes us worth bringing, it is the AP% shout value. So not only are we not brough in other comps... as our damage is shit tier. We got to sit in our own comp, looking at the real DPS carry your weight around.
||That DPS could likely be a ret
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I am not inviting a ret to my physical comp
retriam
But you are only considering your own Position in this comp, since you dont run a dh, the Mage and the Druid are running 5% weaker flat.
This is a buff that increases the usage of monk in m+ and gives warry more ground, because the theoretical numbers are higher
Lets see, I got a ping
Also this might be worse for the physical comps, cus they may start tuning a bit around this, which would be bad for the phys specs
This does not increase the usage of monk in m+, it simply pushes monk into the corner with the rest of the few pure phy classes.
Monk buff doesnt make Phy dam go up, because that is not how balance works in this game. It just means phy DPS does less DPS without a monk.
Dh buff is 3%. Magic users will be fine without it
(Dh and Mage buff while still very strong already both got nerfed to 3% in an attempt to make them less prevalent)
Not going to lie, I will never get why any one who enjoys M+ would want this enforced upon Warrior
we struggle to get in enough as it is
Make monk buff 3%, buff warrior 2% up baseline instead
so I can play with my DH, mage and druid friends
Blizzard doesnt know how to balance their game lol
Oh, I dont doubt they know, nor do I think they are doing this without understanding what they are doing
They just disagree if "forcing you into camp A and only camp A" is a good thing or not
This is one of the best changes i believe for the m+ scene
Because the magic specs were always ahead, and there was usually no way to fit any physical into them without losing something. Now you make a bigger seperation in a way but phys comp gets a bit more defined in the "meta"
Doubt anything changes at all, as we going to be balanced around it. It will be no different from the current situation other than monk is now mandatory.
How often are you when their buff is stronger
So now you kinda seperate and allow people to go into set ups that play around this more
Phys comp already existed?
You already played around this
And was already good
BIG BUFFS THIS WEEK WE BELIEVE
Warrior was not going to go taht easy in a setup that had dh, mage,boomie etc in. The physical comp obviously exists but now it's a bit more seperated for the total gain
Before you could wiggle a monk in a set up that wasn't fully phys, the same way you could have a rogue
It simply splits 2 types of metas regardless which is better
It really isnt, cause it limits your options as:
In your non-meta comp would you rather bring the warrior doing 8-16% less damage, or a mage doing 3-7%. Presuming we are tuned equally and mage doesnt have the classical mage lead.
But what you're presenting is tuning outside of buffs
If you start segregating, then more and more will simply chose the path most traveled - the easier path. They will go towards the stronger of the two opitons. More and more will go mage to get to play.
Fewer phy players equal what?
Indeed, fewer options, making the problem ball on
This isnt a win outside arguably (and even there I say nothing changed) the top 0.01% meta
You are looking at it on the warrior perspective only
when i saw the 8% buff (overall) monks are getting I immediately dm'd my monk friends "hheyyyy you wanna push next season"
guys if I put a socket on a crafted item, will it maintain the socket when i recraft it next season?
It does change your point
No
You're lookign at it on an isolated individual standpoint
sad 😦 ty
If i am 5% behind a mage, but my entire 5 man setup brings it up to 10% higher, then there's areason to play around it
I litteraly talked about the bigger movements down the whole ladder.
You can't claim just because spec A is performing better than spec B suddenly the 5 man set up doesn't matter on the grand total of it
Since when ?
Since ever
Really? was warrior in season 1 the top spec in m+?
daddy noxiv plays phys only = i play phys only
Cus it was the top in raid
Are you daft?
You just claimed m+ is tuned around raid
Lmaoo nvm i am not talkign to you anymore you got no clue
Exactly
It's okay keep yapping random shit
Not sure if you are trolling or not
I haven't played my derpy fury in like 2 weeks and I miss it
You claim the baseline for m+ is the raid, when boomie has been in the bottom of the raid entire season
So yeah you got no clue what you're talking about
good job fury guy you did so many interrupts 
I think you are a bit dumb atm, Yannis. Balance baseline is set to the raid. What dont you get?
all baseline tuning is based on raid
baseline
for the season then they change it (or attempt) for m+ but won't fully change something just for m+
And that doesn't matter for shit when meta on m+ is shaped.
I get that every 3 keys 
it does
Warrior was simming rank 1 on this raid early on
Was it in any form relfected on m+?
Then stop saying that the m+ will be shaped based on raid
I dont even
There got to be hell of a language barrier here somewhere or core misunderstanding of the point of the matter at hand.
Ok, so lets try this. Do you agree that classes are balanced around the raid first?
Sure
Do you understand that raid performance, being bad or good, doesnt equal being great in M+
sure
Do you understand that warrior can be top in raid, and bottom in M+
Sure
Aight, do you understand that monk buff is a 8% mod on warrior DPS?
Sure
Do you understand that warrior DPS will be based on tuning in the raid, where that buff will always be present?
Which brings us to the point of the seperation of m+ with phys and magic dmg
I will want to play more with a monk this upcoming season than before
And it's not bad
It actually opens up options
How so
Because before we were applying to 5keys, any 5 keys most of the time if dmg was close enough.
how does making you able to play with less classes without being punished make it better?
Now if i see in my queue a monk, versus a mage, even i the mage is 5% ahead of themonk, i will take the monk.
And so will others to sum their grand total of 5 players higher.
And if i see a monk plus a feral in a key, my chances of going in that key are higher, even if i am 5% behind an unholy
Now there's still a chance they pick the unholy (just an example)
gl finding a monk from grp finder
you reinforce it, you limit the flex
yeah it doesn't change much tbh
Yes, but there is more wiggle room going on right now. I sometimes will invite a mage here and there
I will invite an unholy
And that is a good thing, cause it goes both ways
Bubt htey will never invite me for example
I stream on https://www.twitch.tv/zorthas
Blizzard buffed Mystic Touch from 5% to 8%. I see a lot of people conflating this as a buff to physical classes. In the next month or two, tuning will bring these classes back to the baseline accounting for the buff, especially because we are still in PTR.
Thus this change will have negative effects for ...
just run your own keys and build your own comps, make your own friends and push heavy
That's another story
fuck hoping other ppl accept you
bro i don't even m+ if I don't have at least one of my friends on
changed the game for me
Again another story
We are talking on a pure pug persrpective i believe
If it's about playing in a set group, specs barely matter since you play with friends
which is purely built on how you search/and/or make keys.
There's people pushing title on aug, do you see augs running in pugs?
fits in the conversation.
Yes but you're talking about a pre set group, in a pre set group i sometimes go play slayer fury in any key level cus they do not mind
idc about some silly willy buffs I just want to see some dam when I hit cds
I'm talking about not pugging and getting a core of people together so you don't have to have in your mind "im an off meta spec oh no who am i gonna play with"
hell yeah
But if you are talking about NOT pugging, this was never an issue in the first place?
In a PuG world, where do you think it is more likely you be invited:
A world where you are
A) 8% weaker, cause no synergy
or
B) 3% weaker, cause no synergy
But think of what you said the other way around, if i am 3% weaker, and the 8% puts me ahead, i will take the 8%
Sadly, tuning is based on the raid tho
So you arent stronger
(compared to current)
we are just weaker compared to current
as we will be tuned 3% weaker
we aint being reworked
I consider pugging searching for keys, for some reason in my brain if im making the key and have at least one friend with me, im in control and I don't really feel like its pugging anymore because I'm choosing the ppl? Idk just how my brain works.
Yes but that's an assumption you're making
You do not know if we will be tuned around the monk
Or around the warrior
That is very likely
it is extremely likely
I doubt we will be 8% stronger than anyone in raid
that aint happening
For example our tier set on slayer got nerfed, but i don't think it got nerfed cus monk got a 3% buff on mystic touch.
IT got nerfed cus it was overperfoming within the warrior, excluding external modifiers.
No, final tuning will be affected
Now if this 8% buff, ends up within 2 weeks making all of the raid run hunters and warriors, sure you get the point of they tune around it.
But this is something speculative again
glad I main warrior and hunter 
Lets say we are doing 85 damage, and mage is doing 100, all raid buffs included. We would be ideally tuned to 100, raid buff increases us to say 90, now we get balanced +10 to reach 100. We are 95 in M+ without a monk
We lost value from balance tuning
Numbers failed, but point stands
looool
I am just tired man
I hope you're well funky:)
I will be better if the monk buff gets reverted 
Sure ignoring the numbers the point stands. But that's an assumption again. Because you are in a way defining that we will be tuned like shit due to the monk buff. And i am telling you, the most recent example, when slayer set got nerfed, you think it was done due to the monk getting 3% Or due to the set perfoming too well?
No, I dont think that
because
final tuning
hasnt been done
Lets say we get a 6% aura buff, as final tuning
then I argue
we lost 3% on that
I played a ton of brew in df could move over if i wanted, I just don't like the dps/heals of monk
which is why i stopped playing it
Cause goal is to get us to a point in raid, the score of a 100
if monk buffs cowers 8 points of that gap, instead of 5 - those extra 3 is denied us in final tuning
But again it's not revolving aroudn the monk, and that is my point here, that we cannot think that we will be shit cus of the monk. IF we are shit i believe it's 90% cus of the spec tuning than external factors.
10% i can attribute to external factors ofcourse
so in ideal scenarios we are tuned a slight bit higher because we suck earlier, what happens in the inverse if we instead get nerfed -10 we are just stinky poo poo dogshit forever bc the buff makes up more of our dam compared to mages
Yes, there are 100s of factors, but lets not consume lead just because there are multiple factors for someones death
I wont support putting lead into the water, just cause there is mercery in my food. I dont want the problem to be reinforced.
But to bring it back to the point before the final tuning as you said, on a scenario that right now, we are 3% behind the mage WITHOUT a monk. And the monk brings us 3% ABOVE the mage, wouldn't you want to play with a monk ?
Again the numbers above are hypothesis not accurate
If that is the case, in this scenario, we will be tuned down
Bro that's just an assumption again..
Raid is the baseline, we shine too much, we get brought down
It is a very fair assumption to make
lets be honest here
You say that but don't forget raid is a bit how certain things play.
In undermine as i said warrior was simming rank 1, and rank 2 respectively for arms and fury.
We were not 1 and 2 in action cus of how certain fights played
What is your poooooooooooooooint
So we cannot assume we'll be shit just BECAUSE
My point is this is innacurate
I dont care if monk takes us to top DPS ever
You claim we are tuned around a monk, we are not.
I care that it is the monk buff forcing that
But you're making an innacurate statement
It will affect about 10% of our tuning
You are making it sound like the warrior existence depends on this buff.
And that's wild
It is another stick in the wheel, yes.
It makes things worse
not better
that is why I make a deal out of it
So you're just dooming without a basis, other than you think it affects our spec so much that it's detrimental.
Please, watch this, if nothing else.
I am not saying it will make all phy classes weaker, nor stronger. What I am saying it further limits options. It reinforces a meta, and for no gains.
selling this 270 shit from bfa on my alt with a bunch of 670 is making me sweat
Selling?
Mount farming ?
I always separate it in my bags and leave the open slots at the bottom of my gear bag and separate it by shit idc to sell
Just put in the bank anything you don't have equiped u guess?
So no risk of selling actual gear
With what lmao.. mine's empty
I sold the boots of my BDK, you know what? I am doing my weekly keys with my new fancy Legion shoes

Mine's emptier than my life
ig i could bank this stuff in the personal, but, then id forget about it, cause its an alt
Also it will make more room in your bags to run more stuff
make SMF relevant again so we can xmog thundefury
So win-win
Or just make 1 handed swords mogable
Without SMF?
1 handed weapons* not swords
nonsense
No, just get rid of it and give us a transmog option
arms forever and always = 1 big sword, even though they should be able to mog every weapon cause lore
cause lore?
Arms-men didnt use all weapons, only the ones they trained with
Yeah i love me a wizzards staff that i use to kung fu with
wdum
I could understand keeping SMF for anything other than transmog if it has some super big impact on our gameplay, like any meaningful impact on our rotation, but it doesn't
It just tries to bring one handers up to the standard set by two handers
Your rotation on SMF compared to titans grip is the exact same and doesn't even feel different
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Arms warrior 
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i waaaant the gmod mounttt



Got it in BFA when raid was current, noob

they should make SMF give a gargantuan haste buff
so its faster
lighter smaller weapons = faster
makes sense to me
maybe smf if there are two ultra cantrip 1Hs and no 2H alternativ
bfa storyline 
Hey guys anyone have any razer keyboards… my k100 shit the bed and I just got a huntsman v3 pro. Razer a good product line. Always been used to Corsair stuff
No, razer is terrible quality
used to be terrible
they stepped up big time
recently
best mice on the market pretty much
good kbs
obv u could get a better custom if u are willing to spend some time
ye but if you're looking at custom kbs youre not going to razer
only complaint i have for my shit is that the plastic/leathery weird thing peels off easily but its trivial to fix yourself
I like low profile keyboards with short key press distance and light switches. Makes spamming buttons on fury a lot easier
It’s better than Dragonflight and TWW that’s for sure
Thats a crazy take
False
wow has storylines?
Based
More like afternoon specials at the local chapel
Pin this
bruh this some shit
i leveld a 1st ever hunter for this event. so at 590 ilvl i went to dummie. legit bursts about 1/3 of my bised out warrior
They have a couple really good keyboards. Pricey though, but the one I have is super rugged and worth it.
The problem there is assuming war has absolutely any burst at all
oh boy avatar is off cooldown time to do 20% more damage than I normally do
dogshit flatline specs
wah ra bad

not to mention how geriatric hunter playes too
whats a godo casting class to use to farm old raids with
gonna level 1 more for this event
seordish 57
Hunter dracthyr is probably the best combo if that’s a possibility
Passive 30% always plus double jump spam
i have hutner- basicaly all melee classes, so if i was gonna do 1 was gona do a lock mage
Can you run around with burning rush at 1hp or does it cancel?
Thats. A take.
But true tww story is ass
Tww has a story?
I dunno. I quite enjoyed the undermine story line.
So far they have set up 5 different stories to happen but haven’t done anything with them
Nothing done with Coreway
Nothing done with elf trolls forgot their name
Nothing done with ararthi
Nothing done with “where is the rest of the horde and alliance”
Nothing done with anduin
Only thing that i remember from cinematics are xalatath feets
Speaking of
It puts her feet on the screen in game lmao
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

Nothing with arathi almost like there have been two whole additional patch quests for it
And half that other shit isn’t even a topic fym coreway
it’s literally just a tunnel
that’s it gz
They talked a bit about it at the start
but that's all it is
just a tunnel
and it's ruined
what more do you want lol
"We have this entire continent spanning empire but were only giving you this little village and they do nothing"
wtf are the patches even for
the world even is literally just killing shit already in the zones
the trollbane stuff was just made to retcon him into being neutered
half the shit in the arathi highlands quests were "why the fuck are we doing this?"
We still have 2 more expansions worth of content that would do something with those
I mean it’s meaningless shit but like it’s there lol
and it's all part of the same story
yea thats waht ime saying
And idk what one tiny village means hallowfall is huge
they are using tww to do nothing but set up future storylines
and all of it’s relevant
Nothing wrong with that
Ok so
wasting my fucking time
but like numbers go up
Why you are so upset about this
When do warriors make their everyone ping?
it doesn't matter
Do you guys really want to be behind dks and mages?
lmfao
It's time to grab the community's attention over dumb things
muh grip raid buff
guys please appeal to unban this random guy
If we're pinging for anything, it'd be the target cap lol
Zoro 4 sword style
its unfortunate that blizzard finished arthas, and illidan, and the old gods storylines and now they cant piggyback off of the 30 year old stories made by the old blood of blizzard and all the new stuff is the best they can do and its alwasy just "war is actually bad???"
or rework
oh my god guys
Dude, I don't want more war stuff
killing people is bad?
what 30 year old story there are like 4 semi decent plot lines in the whole game
The only time people liked world of warcraft was when there is conflict
And all of em have been covered
there isnt
but there is
Void lords???
its litearlly jsut following a purple bich around and never stoping her
How is this not a conflict lol
and eventually Titans?
We def gonna fight them titans
the power of friendship will save us!
bro is mad just to be mad
they stopped making characters that are actually evil and it sucks
there are no actual evil characters
every "villain" now has to be " I was actaully not hte bad guy i was helping you beat the real bad guy"
They’re all just victims of circumstance!!!
Fyrak?
^ lmao
Fyrak?
You have to know that not everyone thinks they're evil and not everyone is going to be evil, people are complicated and have a lot of things going for them
that chracter that no one knew existed until 2 patches into dragon flight and then we kill him a patch later
Not just mustache twirling evil
I don't mind when that happens but it's getting too much
And yet he was a cool pure evil character with a banger raid fight
oh no arthas is so evil guys
Real
He just picked up a cursed sword/helmet
You’re moving goal post my guy
yea
exactly
cool evil villain who just loves being evil
blizzard kills him in 2 patches
gone forever from the story
replaced by neutral im actually helping you by being bad villain
So what are you mad at?
And there have never been other pure evil characters unless they’re like demons or something g
Blizz recycling shit. Or Blizz not continuing a villain
I'd argue Xalatath is on the evil side
xal is pretty much on that line she just hasn’t done much yet
they can never make a real villain anymore. they have to always try to make some pitty story for the villain or make them redeemable in some way
I don't think i've seen anything redeemable about xalatath so far
he wasnt evil
He sure was evil to us in tbc
arthas is evil
also nah
Anti hero
Just picked up bad juju sword
yea frostmourne was the only reason arthas went crazy
a bit but mostly just daddy issues
theres also the problem that blizzard is facing where they have killed or "retired" all of the cool original story chracters and they havent replaced them with equals
Rasz pretty evil yea
Legit asking
they tried in bfa but didnt capitalize on it
I think the concept of truly evil “murder and destroying worlds and civilizations just for the fun of it” characters can get really stale really fast
They absolutely do
that’s some final fantasy shit
every villain just wants to kill for the sake of killing
Boring as fuck
raszzageth = killed in same patch we met her, Sarkareth = killed in 2 patches after we met him
Nah, I disagree with this, Arthas has always been sus sometimes
ok what characters last multiple patches
He went crazy with vengeance before he picked up the sword
Theyre nice every once in a while like Sliske from RS3 if anyone knows that dude is a joker level villain who’s fucking with you for the vibe
like almost none are more than an expansion from their conception in wow as it is
Not counting wc3 shit
he destroyed the ships his armies needed to go back just because of vengenace
reminds me of someone
and then killed the mercs helping him
come on
I shouldn't be posting like this, now nobody can follow my posts lol
Garrosh started being evil in mop and was styled on by a cheating thrall in wod questline
Nah, I disagree with this, Arthas has always been sus sometimes. He went crazy with vengeance before he picked up the sword, he destroyed the ships his armies needed to go back just because of vengenace, and then killed the mercs helping him
come on
That’s like one of the longest ones
Guldan maybe longer
Start of wod halfway into legion
Most expansions are stories captured in and of themselves and only the larger world changing aspects are followed along the next expansions, right? So why should a big bad evil need to be consistently carried over?
almost no other villains are relevant more than a few patches as is
thrall perfectly embodied modern blizzard. They make up bullshit to kill off characters that have potential to be controversial and then ignore and make excuses for their follies and play it off as being in the right.
"its ok that i cheated because im the better person"\
Yet another day bobbyboon just hates on the game but still plays for some reason
LOL
I mean I don’t think garrosh was controversial he was just bad period
But was just lame thrall had to use lightning
exactly
no real orc fight
thats why they made thrall cheat
i really liked when people were complaining about nzoth not getting a full expansion but only a single patch which didnt do the old god justice
meanwhile cthun and yog saron
ya nobody cares about any of the other old gods
I think the backlash regarding how they used Nzoth and how fast he died was the reason they decided to go with overarching expansions plots like what we have with TWW, Midnight and TLT
they are trying to bring nzoth back again too
relevant 1 patch
oh actually forgot sylvanas probably longest standing villain
since like legion sorta into sl
Soon we’ll have an expansion where there’s a massive council fight of corrupted “champions”
Faction Champs
theres going to be a void lord raid after dimensius and thers going to be a council fight where its all the old gods and they do a illgynoth 2.0 thing where they just have arms now
Corrupted Faction Champs
Mythic will have a 20 target boss fight
and then it steps out of the pool
Raid comp vs raid comp
"now i do MORE fire damage"
think they could do a coolish old god council fight but don’t think it could actually be just the old gods
Prolly will just be a bunch of big ol voidy boys with similar styles idk
I think Garrosh wasn't "evil" until he set shores on the Pandaria and the emotions of pride/hatred got the best of him and made him worse
Corrupted champions, but you fight them in a hellfire assault style gauntlet :kappa
Are they? Didn't he die?
Yea nukes aren’t evil
Yknow can just be any voidy fish
Forgot about the nukes lmao
not just nzoth fish
@chilly fractal What's the reason he bombed Theramore, seems out of his character
smorc strong
get off my continent
something something
ima keep it a buck if garrosh didn’t die he prolly woulda gotten to teldrassil before sylv
The Siege of Orgrimmar cinematic lives in the back of my head… I constantly remember hearing it like a thousand times at Blizzcon 2013
They just kept playing it over and over on the screens throughout the convention center
I don't know if makes sense for Garrosh to bomb theramore in terms of his character
Maybe I'm wrong
I jsut dont understand how they think andiun of faerin or any dwarves could imitate this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8pZ_7syXT8
Re-live the moment when Gul'dan was struck down in the Nighthold raid.
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Garrosh's voice lines during the fight are so good
Oh for sure… and amazing final fight
Great way to end the greatest expansion
Hard disagree
all is right in the world
mop and wod are the poster children for "what are you doing blizzard everyone hates this subs are going down!" and then in retrospective people say "actually it was pretty good"
nobody ever thought wod had bad content
wod was bad because there was no content xd
leigon was just "it was good" the entire way through
Legion sucked
You think you have won, you are blind. I will force your eyes open!
L
cmon now. youre just saying that becuase I said mop wasnt the best"
I have always been consistent with my opinion Legion was not good
Legion was so bad, idk how anyone could think doing lfr from previous tiers was good or fun
legion single handedly saved the game
if bfa was right after wod the game would have been unrecoverable
I've never had less fun playing wow then the first year of legion
insane
this is the opposite problem
people loved it during the exapc ans say they hate it arfter lol
Oh yay, doing lfr helya cause I don't have my legendary yet and we're in the next tier, but no one knows how drip rates work but everyone assumes raiding gas a high chance, so lfr grind here we come
So awful
Loved Legion. Doesn't mean I enjoy the bad parts of it.
I still remember getting my legendary off of lfr helya and not being excited, just utterly relieved
my favorite part about legion was randomly getting legendaries and people being pissed about it
Yeah, that wasnt my fav part. Cause it made my warriors basically unplayable for so long it hurt.
Sure, the end of legion was great, legendary vendor, cool beans, doesn't fix how awful the beginning was
Right?!
The beginning was so unbelievably shit
getting legendaries from the blingtron daily box was awesome
But I didn’t buy any effort into farming my AP on my Arms weapon when I was working in Fury and then Prot to tank M+ for my friends etc
@sullen dove burnice
Adding a 3rd spec to farming AP wasn’t going to happen
Huehuehue
Which is one of the many reasons I quit raiding and doing M+
Just focused on mount farming and casual play a night a week or so from a little after Nighthold came out until pretty much Shadowlands with a couple small periods of trying to get back into it again
didnt want to farm in the game about farming
.@WarcraftDevs @BlizzardCSEU_EN
You fools just banned one of the people who actually enjoys your game and spends a ton of time helping others to enjoy it as well.
Justice for Norrinir! You shouldn't get suspended/banned for simply investigating how the game works!
JUSTICE FOR GARY
TLDR, exploiter got banned?
mage discord is popping off rn
its really good
Wait, what did I miss? I don't play mage, so I don't know this drama
Peak content
The game made you feel bad by not having time to play
i think arcane needs some sympathy buffs for this
i dont think he was a exploiter, porom is just a dumbass
and fury needs a nerf
mage tc ran software that is against tos and got banned for it then they @ everyone pinged it as if someone died
Dude, I thought somebody fucking died when I read the beginning
Why would you risk using a software against ToS?
especially if you're a theorycrafter or whatever
lots of software is against tos
Crit got banned not too long ago
like vpns and shit this line of thinking doesnt exactly work
Ok fair enough
He got banned for using a VPN?

i dont think he did anything personally, just another critcake scenario
Aight, justified ban then
Do we know exactly what software he was using?
there is like no evidence of this
Or is all this just hearsay?
Microsoft Windows
the wording in the everyone ping is evidence of this
porom just sucks dick at sending messages
lolol
Idr what triggered crits ban tbh
no one knows
What did Crit get "banned" for?
he got an 18 month ban for "investigating how the game works" right lmao
Think it was software use or something
turns out all the top players use rotation bots and spell macro exploits 😏
this has to be a mistype, i saw it too dont worry.
porom has always been a dumbass and his messages in the general chat dont help either
norrinir isnt even a top player
This is why streamers should be like crit. Have camera on mouse hand
he literally just theory crafts and farms mounts and mid tier m+
I mean, I don't know the situation, but if he was hacking or something, Blizz can ban away
why would he need a rotatio nbot then?
Who said anything about a rotation bot
get real
To automate it for him?
he was using some software that exploited the game somehow
either automating things or doing things you arent supposed to
he has no reason to
so why did he do it?
he didnt do it
What if he only modified his soundfiles to moan when presses frostbolt?
Khazix is arguing that it's fake news
so if he didnt do it why did he get banned
We don't know anything at this point
why did critcake get banned?
it's all speculation
what did he do?
Why even speculate on something people don't know anything about???
which is why he got unbanned
then why is he banned
Just because somebody got banned as a mistake, doesn't mean he is
It's not simple as that
ah yes false bans
they ahppen al the time
so much that no one in my guild for years has been falsely banned
i think its even more likely this is a mistake than it was with crit
How big is your guild
999 people
We'll see
999 good sample size for multi million pop
man i left the mage discord
literal proof of false bans existing in critcake but this guy has never had a false ban in his guild so they dont exist
^
i cant see the drama
it wasnt a false ban
gg
why would he be false banned in the first place
your face isnt a false ban
what was he under suspicion of
this is a true statement
terrible take bobbyboon
There’s a bot that auto bans
what a surprise
Yep, all random
youd think more pople would be affected if thats true
they are you muppet
weird thing for blizzard to implement
Background apps triggering stuff I guess
it happens all the time
you just dont hear about it because its random players
bring back zen
Crit literally doesn’t know what triggered his ban
"a bot that goes around and causes problems for our paying subscribers by banning their accounts will drive up sales"
Actual brainlet take LOOL
It's time to stop talking
im sure the autoban bot doesnt target people for specific things
prob the same
the auto ban bot is a robot in the blizzard offices and types in a random number between 1-10,000,000 and whatever number it lands on is the character id that gets banned

not permanently and then reduces to 18
after appeal
bro did some stupid shit
Every day I pray it picks me next 
Xan only one thinking here
just wierd that the rng ban bot ends up banning so many streamers and high end players so often
So from what I can gather, this Porom guy is really bad at public messages lol
how can they be so lucky?
so it wasnt an auto ban?
The only news source I trust: Xan newz
it was manual?
bro wanted to aura buff mage by 10%
if it was an auto ban then the rng ban bot should be banning more people for the same thing
When a streamer gets banned the news spreads. When a random gets banned 5 people might hear about it
Xan's point makes this more likely to be a true ban
ok so you say it happens to people all the time but because its more important when it happens to a streamer those statitics dont count and we should only look at the 1/10000000 streamer getting banned which means its a false abn
No false ban is banning someone permanently
then reducing the sentence to 18 after appeal
no one has said it happens to people all the time
Someone did say that but yeah
ya idk u cant just stealth edit that message in after mass pinging everyone
lmfao
needs to be studied how to adress a big mass of people in the most unbelievably wrong way possible
hahahaha
yeah this was awful
you dont see
warriors get abused for years and deal with it and mages get 1 little ban and have a mental break down
the giant
Spongie
thoughts on the DK mass ping
poor mages...
idk silly aswell
Yeah, it would have been nice if we got to read the actual message lol
That's like Skyhold mass pinging because of Fury's target caps in M+
i just refuse to believe it happens but thats me
this is the edited part
you understand that you should not mass ping everyone with a stupid reason and then try to addendum something reasonable as a simple edit afterward
no one will read the edit
porom is unable to type
Yeah, most people tagged already read the first message
then closed tab or something
posted funny reactions then moved on
^
also the reactions should not be allowed
Dang, if the mage guy is telling the truth, that really sucks for him. Hope he gets his account back, or at least some clarification from Blizz
why not
I'm glad we don't allow reactions here tbh
after seeing that
because people where reactiong to messages with obscenities
like a penis
for example
What's wrong with a penis
So turn it on to server only reactions?
you would get clown reacted so hard
that too
I love reactions
Only ones allowed to react in here, is the evil overlords 
\i dont wanna see a penis though
Archi loves the dracthyr emojis
Yeah I just read until « got suspended by the automated cheat detector »
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that's an eggplant
that and ^this tbh
I feel like we should be able to use the feature like external emojis and reacts, we self police pretty well in this discord and people can easily just be banned for abusing explicit emojis
Do we really need external emojis?
It’s not like our mods don’t monitor the chat

Am I wrong or were you able to just ping at everyone way back
And we ping them anytime someone is being ridiculously unhinged
i mean i dont want to be mass pinged for grip is a raid buff
What about fury target caps
thats untrue
?
What does that have to do with reactions tho
and if they're being unhinged
Free Steam 50$
I'd be for adding reactions, personally. I know I wouldn't use them to be weird, but I can't speak for everyone else lmao
idk emotes always end up being giga aids
me when I lose 50 dollars
Lmao
tmy
wat
goat gif
it's just a fish
calling the police
nah that's a fish
thats not a fish
Nah that’s a D
The mage player was allegedly using AHK to get info from the PTR which is absolutely against TOS but it's the PTR, seems like there should be some leeway
Watch the whole gif pls. I know people have like no attention span, but come on lol
That's why it wasn't permanent
AHK is what? For us non-exploiters?
Auto hot key
Careful happy you’ll get Gio five sevend’ lmao
AHK doesn't get you banned unless you are using it for actual advantage or like PvP or such
It bots your rotation
its clearly not AHK
@dusky moon come wiggle it
I'm good lol
auto hot key, sounds automated
"Contrary to what Porom wrote in the initial message, I wasn't really even testing anything."
Basically yeah lmao
me when i lie on the internet
bit contradictory no
extremely
My information is 2nd hand but a fairly reliable source
Allegedly? From who? Who's alleging this? Someone else I don't know lol?
"really even"
it was only a matter of time before his story had contradiction

as long as its not from Blizzard its all horseshit
😄
hi ppaww
Who cares tho, he got banned - apparently for a good reason. Should not have played with fire and get burnt 
hi Gio57
I know he used cheat engine to give him 1000000 gold
FREE HIM!
cheat engine fly through wall for mount farm
He messed with the client to enable Aggramar's Stride so he could farm legacy raids on his plate characters
real
A respectable reason to be banned for sure, who wouldnt do the same? We rally to his cause
warrior should move very fast
But our rally is weak rn
Wait, stormforged can react?
yes
The lengths gold sellers go to advertise their websites are ridiculous. I managed to record this hack as I logged on one night. I was very impressed.
🤡
first time for everything
I was there when Silm reacted
he is abusing his power
what you gonna do about it
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Careful, Ppaww, or he will react to your messages 
forogt about this insane chinese one https://youtu.be/4iuDnlVds6s?si=2HU-r9HSrgAULMav
Wdym « for now »
i will get a showertought

and its gonna be epic
or maybe i wake up from my sleep tonight and write the idea on the sheet of paper
what else is happening
That comeback that appears to you the next day or the week after

exactly that one
would be funny if they removed invites to the server
I'm gonna ping everyone complaining about it
like the dk discord did when frost was nerfed in s1
do it
I'm gonna be selling premium mage server invites
no balls
IM GONNA SEND IT
LMAO
lol who did it ?
I saw that
i didnt had time to read
its joever
but it didn't ping anyone
LMAO
Yeah it doesnt work
it automods it ig
just gets deleted
Can stormforged ping everyone
the only people that use at everyone are bots so it's just on the auto delete list
I hope @coarse nest got timed out
no
Get bent nerd
it mutes them yeah
Fuck you gio
praying on his downfall
you can see brew's roles
Brewjj got timed out for an hour
gg
gg
@coarse nest an hour lmao
Brewjj DM me
He's gonna blow up my DMs
do it
he's gonna DM everyone
Tuning tomorrow guys yall ready?
I once got muted by archi for 5 mins
Did you deserve it
@coarse nest hi
no
Somehow I don't believe that
do you mean muted by shot?
Did you send your steamcard giftaway to the wrong mod?
@oblique trail 🪞
what was the funny
of kalandra
the ban shouldve been permanent
^
know your place scum
wtf
I meant to react to funky
Congratulations
not spongie

too far
You deserve to be here Gio
no proof of me hating you
Spongie hates everyone

why should i have been permanently banned


