#fury
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what % mastery is too much?
101%

i will jerk off to Chris Metzen aggressively everyday on istagram until they buff fury
The fuck

Commitment to the cause
doing the work for all of you
i can respect that
I have health pot/haste pot/auto walk/mount on mouse. So, I’m a liar.
I didn’t know where tf to put them when I switched to prot lmao
Oh yeah I do mounts on the top two buttons of the mouse
Scroll wheel forward is stance bind
Scroll wheel back is hamstring
Z/X for stances for me
Bro you eat two binds for stances!?
do u guys still use cyrce circlet
Get the macro
If it sims highest yes
It lasts along time for fury
It gives alot of mastery
hc jastor/crafted ring until some mythic mastery
I played StarCraft majority of my life, these buttons ain’t shit
race?
who will give bob head?
I wonder if kids still Bob for apples
hmm okay
They do at the renaissance fair
I remember doing it when I was a kid but I never see it anymore
All I did when I got toss as random, was say “glhf, im toss will cheese”
And immediately if the player was diamond or below they would just internally shatter mentally
Protoss Master Race fight me
Nah I like all races, and lore
DUNE! ❤️
Sorry rts is still supreme gaming to me
I think Herzog Zwei invented the RTS, but I never played that as I didnt have a megadrive at the time
Zerg is the zug zug race
protoss is the only race where the mirror matchup isn't aids. TvT and ZvZ suck to play
protos are op
I can agree with that
@young swan wasn’t able to catch ya last night on aqw, wife had other plans when I walked in the door after work.
This weekend maybe!
Playing random pvp was the only thing I enjoyed mirror wise
Tvt I would always cheese. Fuck an hour long turtle match.
PvP you can just do weird things. love going dts in PvP
ZvZ made my brain hurt.
Kerrigan, probably first video game crush I ever had 😂
Being like 8-9. whooooo is this alien lady
Starcraft bug mommy
@mossy fox Where u i miss u
Back home on sunday
Frost dk good
raging blow 57
So just starting mythic Gallywix tonight. Been looking at logs and the best trinket for this fight looks to be Eye of Kez. However, I only have a heroic one. Would a heroic Eye beat out either a Mythic Pacemaker or Mythic Lock-N-Stalk for this fight? It doesn't when simming Single target.
I’ll prob reroll dk frost
Warriors not looking good this next season
Sim Patchwerk 7-8 minutes
Still streaming? ❤️
That will roughly be the kill time
when i get back yes
critcake > rogue discord
I would go with whatever sims best for ST, since that (and living) are really the important parts of the fight - just make sure you set your sim to ~8m or whatever your expected kill time is
I was simming for 5 mins yeah, I'll do an 8
🙌 💯
huge prog tip btw - make sure you remind your RL that nobody should be kicking and any prot pallies should be sitting on their avenger's shield/divine toll in P1, you wanna milk that as long as possible
I cannot get my group to do that
Will do lol, And Heroic Eye of Kez seems to beat pace maker by 20k on 8 mins
It’s a good trinket
Wrecking throw worth getting for M Gally?
Haven't gotten to use that thing since Fyrak lol
isnt WW better than slam now in ST?
how cooked are we again next season?
Hockey puck
Tuning today surely since they collected all that data yesterday
Fury: Execute damage nerfed by 5%
yes
Hello 🙂
If we pressed BT on cd and care about sudden death you don't really need hack and slash
HnS makes everything worse because of the abundance of raging blows
ngl i wish that was the case
Many do
If raging blow wasn't good to press you wouldn't care about HnS
Same with massacre right now
Good point
Only if you didn't have empty gcds that would otherwise be filled with RBs
Some damage is more than no damage
That’s fine as long as you press BT on de
Cd
And rampage on 80 rage
And execute on cd

It would give you space to press things like onslaught and odyns too
This spec is fucked
If those buttons existed
It's to spite you in particular
I think they want us to weave them both but the tuning missed the mark
If it wasn't for bloodcraze we'd just spam rb lol
I mean even bloodcraze is kind of irrelevant next tier
My food delivery driver is taking the fucking scenic route
Like it's still better to press bt with crit conditionals, but only very slightly
What is he doing
The fact that RB does more damage than BT baseline is insane
BT should be doing 50% more damage than RB
its been like this before
huge prog tip btw - join echo

🫡
im already there
Just know somebody in echo
That way you don’t have to play 18 characters and can still get the mount
Ez W
you're supposed to jump off when the boss is at 0.1% not at 83%
😂
Calculated
Druid is throwing so hard
Already did, haven’t you heard?
😎
have you guys found any pattern to where the void spawns on araz?
seems it's just spawning randomly
we thought it was opposite of current pylon but didn't look like it
@smoky vale call loyal a dumbass at some point or soemthing for me thx
no
😠
🙂
@gleaming siren are youlagging on boss when mage lusts
its legit unplayable
ARE YOU PLAYING A SHADOWPRIEST
this is what im playing
@smoky vale only cute people lag on bosses
(shadow priests)
nvm not cute
We go from boss that is literally 'just game' to a boss completely determined by a WA
fun
Weakaura boss yippie my favorite!
Wonder if they will tone down boss mechanics once they kill dbm, wa etc, or keep em the same and just expect us to be all on voice and coordinated as fuck
There is a text if you have to drop the add on azaz, I hope that’s not what they mean with base game dbm
Lol
I noticed 20 min in bc it is so small- middle top of the screen
They clearly design some mechanics around expecting mythic players to have all these addons and the top guilds to make the wa packs that everyone else just then uses
We almost killed it with no weakaura we gaming
Tbh the first 5 are fine in this regard, from what I saw, dh council debuff management will be supported by weakauras, but clearly not needed
WA definitely aint required
Like dispel me typical macro, it is not those weakauras that are awful
but goddamn does this boss have NO mechanics that you have to think about
Question about cartel chip purchases - if I have a heroic jastors diamond, is it worth getting the mythic one or can i use my third purchase on house of cards for better returns instead?
Like is the mythic one that much better fully upgraded?
What do your sims say
fractillus is archimonde 2.0 love it
It is better than the heroic one obviously, but how much, yeah just sim the cartel chip in the droptimizer
Sim your gear set in droptimizer
Yeah like happy said
raidbots.com has the answer my friend
I will do that but I was hoping for a ballpark answer before i went through all that, dont have raidbots premium so my sims arent as complete
there is no ballpark answer
fury also really likes eye of kezan + locknstock for the last 3 bosses
Ballpark is higher ilvl = good, but after that we don’t know your gear situation etc
Oh you see what I talked about Fractilus targets you with : ….
also problem is ability names are a bunch of world salad
great to know which are targetting you in base ui but when rock man is all about shattering and crystaline etc
Yeah, I hope it will be more « telling » when it will really come out
Hopefully midnight
Not that I’m watching any testing cuz idc and more fun to exp it live but what do u just gotta hit shit with frontals
ain’t that just like Terros or there bit more to it
yeah you bait walls
its pretty easy honestly
don't even need a weakaura
@young swan you seeing this?
Yeah blizzard delivered on nexus king
This fight fucks
Haven't played retail in a while, is fury target cap getting removed in 11.2 yet?
why do people expect it to get removed
it'd be a bad change
Because it worked fine from legion to tww?
im thoroughly convinced it would be a lot worse than simply making other fury spells like tblast, odyns, reap, bladestorm and rav deal proper aoe damage
even when a rework inevitably happens, removing targetcap is not something i'm expecting
ok and I immediately hate nexus king
rly? he looks sick
you have tuning knobs inside the hero talents that will easily improve fury gameplay both for ST and AoE, changing target cap is shit.
I feel like I'm standing in the middle of an f1 race
Idk if it's still like this rn but during early s2 they got beaten even in 3-4 target fights
So we lose in what's supposed to be our profile
yea looks giga intense. i love chaotic fights
Then have a cap
it's way too fast
that has nothing to do with the target cap and everything to do with simple class spec balancing
fury warrior on PTR
target cap isnt inherently class balance
makes me want to uninstall
fury warrior on live makes me want to do that
target cap cahnges would make them have to re-tune everything
just wait for PTR
Thane is just a shitshow
Why do you want target cap thouuh
What is fun to you about losing to uncapped classes, just wondering
only dreams could make that happen
Just buff mest cleaver % and of! + roar
What is uncapped now on ptr except that rng udk and moon kin?
O

So what is uncapped? Bm ain't anymore
only 25% behind slayer 
Moonkin?
Warrior good?
Just wondering if we are asking for something super rare now
Mm has some abilities
thane tierset just needs a rework
with the way it works now there's no reasonable tuning that could make it better than slayer in any content
They don't hit very hard though do they? Tricks hots plus aimed is the meat and still capped?
But I haven't touched ptr at all
better than it was before 
Feel like if they made the ionizing strikes only hit your primary target, and do 1 strike per target hit by tblast, maybe it could give some funnel? With another 725% buff to it
Just giga double down on our prio damage
(technically the first buff wasn't 725%)
Anything multiplying with 0 is still 0 
so true bestie
BM, moonkin, UH
The latter 2 was all you'd see in s2
"target cap doesn't matter tho trust"
Bm is capped now
Their big burst circlr thingy isnt capped is it?
If they're gonna cap everyone else too then I won't be so salty about it
Dk has been capped for ages?
Don't know anything about dk, tried to barely look at hunter too. More fun when stuff is new
There was a ptr note that capped unholy
UH was not target capped
It is
It doesn't do much damage and it's annoying me I can't remember the name
was
Bursting sores
Wounds scale somewhat upwards
But its not a lot od their dmg
Blood is less than 4%
Overall in keys
Sores is mby hmm 10%?
I can't tell if shit has changed that drastically in 2 months or youre trolling me
BIL was 40% of every UHs damage
Nono
Every pull
They definitely got capped this ptr cycle
Is mage capped?
It was wound dmg scaling
But still a softcap if im not mistaken
Doesnt matter dk still fucks
I'm just wondering if they will cap all main abilities or make you spec heavily into uncapped aoe and do no ST
Fury and outlaw are the hardest capped classes
Just make bladestorm not soft capped or something
Fury isnt getting tuning or unlocked caps
Does anyone here follow PTR performances
I was wondering what healers are looking good
I love this boss
For next season
I heard Evoker things
Ok
inb4 nexus king is the new mugzee and dimensius falls in <100 pulls
I doubt that happens this time.
what does this thing do
looks like a crazy arms frost weapon
how far are you guys getting on this boss
we are stuck p1
lol
just stat stick
Turns corpses into void orbs, you autoloot the corpses as you do so
Just an autoloot with the visual of turning corpses into orbs then?
Sounds kinda nice honestly
While so far noone seem to found anything special with it, I still hope there is some fun little easteregg extra
Just aoe looting is nice I miss my lootarang
I hear brew is doing alright. It isnt vdh but doing alright. No idea on WW
But phys comps will want at least one monk
8% mystic touch now right?
BM, warrior, outlaw rogue?
Feral as well at least one of the hero trees
Wonder if they increase battle shout
But AP buffs the magic using phys classes so idk
Doubt it. AP effects more things
I really hope they dont buff AP% shout
Yeah it does
I dont want us to be even more balanced around being a buffbot, on top of being balanced around getting buffed
Good point I'm cool with 5%
Can improve rally instead for a utility angle. Give it the better in 5 man treatment. Or something like X% more healing recieved while active. Or Damage reduction while active
I think its ok in raid. Not great but its alright. Helps with predictable raid aoe damage. And % based healing. But it could still use some work in raid
If it's gonna stay as bad as it is right now it should be off gcd again
in m+ might as well unbind it though.
I dont even remember what % hp it gives anymore. 10% or is it 20% of max
knock knock knocking on gios door ❤️
10% oof lol
I only use it if I see spirit link in keys
I use it as a mini personal if I have to. Thats about it
Buffs enraged Regen and victory rush
I've been wanting war banner buffs on warrior for so long
Idc about buffing others tbf
raid buffs are a nice balancing tool
even if a class sucks u can throw a nice raid buff on it and it will mean every group has to at least take one so they can at least play the game
i hate that im 682, and have 684 rings with a 684 jastor and STILL circlet is better
Get out
just give me a lust shout
link sim bud
it sounds a lot cooler than it is, especially when the state of tuning results in using your buff when its convenient for other people rather than yourself
Yeah right they could think I’m going to use it for others all they want. I’m greedy and will use it for myself whenever it is optimal

Yes but idc if it is strong or not, I agree for buff raid spots, but I have absolutely 0 value added to my fun as a warrior if I have banner on top
Im not a fucking aug
Did anyone actually use those buff allies potions this season? lol
The engi ones? I tried for a raid and couldn't tell a difference
Between normal temp pots
Hpal in my raid did for fun I don’t know how realistically “optimal” it can be though
they not really known for making random niche consumables/effects that are any significant amount better than the status quo
oh you’ve made 30 different embellishments with different effects? Wow! Surely ones that require you to do an extra mechanic or something would provide you with a noticeable benefit!
nah ur using the same 2 passive ones the whole xpac
poggers
very useful development time spent on crafted gear
You know they spend a ton of time making sure all these effects don’t have absurd combinations too
They don’t make sure they’re useful
Just that they’re not too good
feel like they could try to be a little more interesting
even something as simple as “in your cooldowns you do 10% more damage at the cost of doing 1-2% less damage outside of them”
could see something like that potentially being relevant if you need more damage in specific windows
tuned to be a minor net gain over not using anything at all but like it at least makes you think about it sometimes
Would be kinda neat to let people curve their specs damage profile a little bit with tools like that
Very neat idea honestly
Ofc it being a damage gain depends on how well you play in your cds but like up to the beholder to make it useful yknow
think not too much to ask of the avg player to try and focus and play a little better in a smaller window of time vs all the time
Just dodge it bro
could b cool
Nah
reduce dmg taken by void beams by 90% or something
There isn’t an extra action button
Fights gonna be fun to prog tho
funny part its the mech diff between this boss and the previous 6 ones xddd
Its like tindral 2.0
Well actually the last boss is actually tindral 2.0
You have a flying intermission and all
My conspiracy theory is : these items are made + implemented by the interns to test them
Bc too me it seems too expensive if it’s only for illusion of choice
@slim coral hey man grats on the pc trial
Don't say that. One of our best dps always died on the flying part of tindral... Couldn't do the balls on stix either.
Well get ready to fly again 
There isn’t any testing for last bosses
Pretty sure on mythic though we’ll be flying between phases but maybe not
I’m mostly just messing
same
i know there is no testing just going of off the dungeon journal
people on cata classic see this and say classic is harder
Only thing harder about classic is the tedium
They just want you to be a dragon and glide over each one
thats a w
Yea but are they hero track tho
100%
would be too strong otherwise no?
oh ic
if they are normal and there
zzz
but the diff between hc and normal is basically none
Can't you farm normal ones without keys ?
*champion ones
Would be dumb if that vendor would have champions trinket
Even tho the price on them looks like they are 
@clever belfry why did you quit aug
why not
cuz it blows
andasimp was too dangerous
5 warrior soon
hi need 2 more warriors maybe 3 if xantaga never resubs
@slim coral @hallow sphinx :3
i would but we are the same person so it doesn't count
explode @flat river
anda when did you last meow?
right meow
Mraow
there is no way this is how its supposed to be 😭
Watch it be like Dragonsoul boss. Experiment, where you phase out of the massive killing shot.
Only well be using cloaks.
You can’t phase through the beams
Guess we'll just have to wait and see it than.
Yo bazed
Pretty sure they’re baited
What are the top dogs in m+ ptr
Isn’t bm bigger? It has that insane stampede thing
Boomie isn’t on top?
I assume the tier set got fixed
I haven’t seen a boomie above a bm or dk
Nerfed
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/c982LTCiHguvkofdL2UYj5 can anyone take a look at this sim? how is cyrce's still better?
i'll still be wearing cyrce's in S3 of Midnight
Is there a consensus fury slayer build for M+ on ptr at the moment
unsure about VC/Ashen or capstones with the flex points
Vc bad. Bt is so low on the prio
I think spamming bt is within the margin of erro(in aoe)
Might want to double check that I’m not super confident.
Either way VC is dropped I’m pretty sure
I’ve seen builds with either stat nodes or UF
something like this then
yes
u could prob drop UF for 1 VC
Is VC better than 2 deft though?
I might’ve seen people using the crit node too
Cause once again rb just gets so much support 
I cant believe they saw the state of fury and said 20% more damage for rb and a chance to reap
if I ever find who decided that its on sight
this was like 2.5 hours ago did u guys figure out how to deal with these death beams?
No
Liquid will have a strat
was that gif from your pov or some gif u found from somewhere
i prob syhouldve asked that first lol
It’s from another stream and they only got there once
Anti magic shell. There’s your raid buff dk
did they fix the group listing teleport out method for dungeon farming?
its not working anymore
from what ive seen only champ track
ty
I was doing it earlier in raids
How’s fury looking for next season
Slayer gunna be the #1 contender for Raid and m+?
Lmao
Bro I have to agree with ya . If I ever see a warrior dev in person it’s on sight . They finna learn hard Fury should be hitting . We duel wield swords not sponges
for now yeah
How we comparing to other classes tho ? We bottom, mid , or upper class
Tank specs probably actually outdps us
Like I said it’s on sight with the devs lmao
Blizzard should hire people like Archi to be the devs for the class. The class writers have more passion and understand of the class then the actual devs
Imagine thinking there's a warrior dev and we don't get the leftover time (lol) of the class devs they have.
From what ive seen, fury warrior isnt terrible, but not exceptional or really good
Looks slightly below avg
(If you ignore wild outliers like frost dk and hunter)
Assuming theyre gonna be mikdly nerfed atm
There's a whole month of tuning left to go and the top performers will be reigned in
Fury is perfectly fine as is 👍

Surely
im sure our singletarget will be fine in raid, it's the rest i'm worried about
they have shown no signs of making fury viable in high end m+
im fine with huffing copium over blizzard doing correct tuning but this is just incorrect
Then explain why fury is still timing incredibly high keys this season
because it buffs specs that actually do damage
And we also do very solid single target and prio damage
and theres a few players that remain devoted to warrior only
because you can be 30% weaker and still time a keylevel behind world first
Fury is doing "good damage" when we got a good route and a good chainpull
good prio damage is cope
Yeah exactly, just plan your route accordingly and play well and you'll time the key
xD
it really is that simple
fury warrior will do 5.5mil overall compared to 8mil from outlaw rogue
I seriously doubt that a DPS gap this big will exist
Tbh I would be perfectly fine if fury stood out in the top tier in Raid and was bad in M+
The spec is dogshit, and I'm sick and tired of people saying otherwise
And who even looks at overall
Or vise versa
it exists now
You must have not played brown class long enough then
compare the best overall from noxiv to the best overall from tomelvis
Warlocks currently doing 70M dps with ease
Again why are we focusing so much on overall when most of the mobs are just shitters that melee the tank and will die to the uncapped classes anyways
The closest fury Will ever see 70M is if we attack a critter outside stormed
Like its honestly a cope
because killing them fast is still important lmfao
Storm wind *
critters don't get scaling like that
prio target matters but you cant chain the next pack until enough mobs have died
whats the use in killing a prio mob fast if the rest of the pack doesnt die at the same time
So we never finna see 70M lmao
Killing them fast matters if you're not going to time the key but people are still doing it anyways
and fury is currently not good at killing those smaller mobs either
Bro we see a 70 mil hitting WW on Classic packs, its fucked
And their tier set got nerfed by like 50% lol
We will see more nerfs over the course of the month
thinking tier set matters as much
thinking Raid is the only content that matters
Bruh
When did I ever say raid is the only content that matters?
I just wish to talent Onslaught again
We got Blizzard's strongest soldier in here tonight
PvP, unironically
In our situation I think they do matter cause fury always bottom of the pack on both types of content
If you want a class that will get invited to higher keys, you need higher overalls to reflect on your ability to actually perform up to snuff in those environments. You know what is cope? Priority damage.
Just because you don't like blizzard's design choices doesn't mean they're wrong
Last time i remember playing it is DF s1 😦
Bro that shit is catching at least a 50% pvp nerf, it's probably another 0pc situation
Pretty sure we used it all DF
Not going to read it all, but in case it hasn't been mentioned. Fury isn't bottom only on overall.
We ain't even top at the boss dam, prio target pack dam nor top pure ST dam
I get what you say that we "should bring a different valuable profile", but we fail even at that
Pretty sure I've seen tons of screenshots of fury warriors gapping people on bosses over the course of the season
🤦♂️. So that’s why I’m saying I would be okay if Fury topped in raid and flopped in M+ or vise versa . Not asking to be top in all content but give us a place to shine
and I dont see why that would be any different next season especially with the slayer tier
it is at a point where its not enough that matters anymore
Slayer on fury really isn’t that good tho our execute damage is terrible
Fury st is pretty good next season
Sure, I can bring screenshots of me gapping all the classes in the game
What is your point
Fun fact:
It's not
I dont understand how anything I'm saying is bait, pretty sure other people here hold a very similar opinion to my own
a massively unpopular and largely wrong opinion yeah sure
Just wish thane had a real tier set
you have players here that are probably better then you saying you are wrong
Colossus and Thane are honestly a rip off . If u go back into Warcraft history . Collosus is basically what thane is . Blizz just ran out of ideas
You don't seem very connected to the reality of the situation
So for others seeing you spout your opinion, well, there is a lot of disbelief that you even think that way in the first place
Yup
Fury gonna get tuned, don't worry 
I have hope
I'm always feeling shy as fury after the first pull of priory w my 50k overall
😂😂😂
I resort to spamming battle shout to it sounds like I’m cheerleading
Class Changes
• Woyer
• Fury
• Get fucked lmao

I should do a macro to spam it
They’re probably scared to buff too much cause slayer is good
They proved that in season 1 of this expansion. Fury was absolutely dominating the first week of raid.. correction first day of raid . Then we got nerfed into the ground
Slayer extremely good, only 1-5m behind the pack in keys 

Better Nerf to be safe
lol I meant raid and you know it

Woyer might actually be played in any capacity? Nerf the fucking thing into irrelevancy
bladestorm nerfs next patch notes
looks in Wrecking Throw pvp nerfs
The first batch of nerfs were arguably fine, but the rest werent
Despite this though, Fury still did incredibly well for what it was good at in the raid
God damned raid
And was fucking dogshit otherwise
yeah we had a niche which happened to be very useful in that raid
and we paid for it
Actually, you know what, you fucking raiders need to sandbag more
Unless I can't clear a +10 and somewhat compete with other specs, it doesn't matter to me personally
So we actually catch buffs
I did just fine otherwise in raid on bosses that weren't "suited" for Fury
Silken court as thane was fun
In that case, you should be fine with Fury being OP in that niche in the raid. As that matters even less
As content doesn't scale up, it scales down with time.
Nerfing a class and killing it in m+ for "killing adds too fast" is the stupidiest thing.
As once nerfs hit, it changed nothing. Ppl only cared less cause it was removed from warcraftlogs and the end of week WoWhead report 
Meh, I just hope Fury is shit tier in the coming raid
So I at least maybe don't have to be handicapped the whole m+ season
^
It was still strong in said niche even after the nerfs in raid, simply because every timing just aligned incredibly well with Fury, or you could hold slightly to make it align without losing anything noteworthy
I also already said initially that the first nerf was fine, but the rest wasn't
As long you agree to my point. Nerf didnt matter. It only shot Fury in the leg for m+
But I also just really do not care about M+ outside of just getting my weeklies done, and I don't think Blizzard really cares that deeply either about whoever is trying to push the cutting edge key levels, compared to the general state of specs and if they're just able to get their weeklies done
That was all it did
The first wasn't because we all fucking knew they were going to go too far with it
And pvp
Wasn't quick, and still got shafted repeatedly
M+ just dies
Idk just stop playing the spec/class?
If you don't enjoy it at all
Oh shuah it
Waht do you think we have been saying this entire PTR cycle, holy fucking shit
If you care about the specs' performance that much, and it pains you to the point where you hope it's just bad so you don't have to play it, the problem lies more with you than the spec at that point
Who knows, I tend to not listen to you
I care as much about the raid as you do m+, so I won't agree to the concept of: raid changes that don't matter for raid, but kill m+, is ok
Its obvious you've not paid any attention in here recently
Because you'd know that the common consensus is just to reroll
It is the best solution. But not my ideal one
^
none of you play the game at a high enough level to care about rerolling
barely anyone here does
like 1 yellow name
maybe 2
Even so, I push at my level, and a handicap is just that
And be a handicap for them?
I aint that kind of a "friend"
meanwhile, as pvp chat is playing literally any other class than woyer
yea i mean pvp is just a mickey mouse where u play the most unkillable classes in the game
and spend 5 minutes in an arena match kiting around pillars
meanwhile, as Kennie is probably the happiest of pvp chat playing Prot War
The class is a joke dude
Yo which PTR do I download 11.7.7 or 11.2.0
11.3.0
njkhjkhsdfk
(in case you didn't meme, answe is 11.2)
@orchid dagger I just read through that bait from earlier and I wonder who would win in an argument, that God guy or BobbyBoon
I would pay money to watch them talk about fury


Idk, Banezi was getting me pretty good earlier
I almost finishing leveling my DH out of spite
I haven’t read Banezi’s yet
What is 12.0
If it's bait to simply be realistic when people doom then I'd hate to see what you consider not bait 👍
Realistic is not playing warrior next patch unless we get giga buffs

Sure I have no idea what Warrior is like really next patch so go for it
i love bestest
I however didn't talk about the state of Warrior next patch, but what it was like in S1
You said the fury nerfs in s1 were fine
Left after I called him low quality bait

I said the very first nerfs were, and the subsequent werent'
Reading comprehension or?
They were genuinely a slap on the wrist and didn't appreciably change how Fury performed
And fury kept catching the bullet making it unplayable other than raid logging
They weren't, especially with the hindsight of over a month of repeated nerfs afterward
You don’t care about m+ past weekly vault though so
Ok but now you're talking about nerfs past the first
Which we all can agree weren't fine
I'm confused
The gutting of Odyn’s
Odyn's being dragged out back
I think it was odyns and bladestorm nerf
15% OF nerf and 10% BS nerf, which realistically was fine
They added 3% aura nerf later the same week
Which killed M+ and to an extent pvp Fury right there
But to a raid logger like Banezi perfectly acceptable losses
nah it was still fine
Which is pretty much the entire problem with this spec and discussing it atm
I don't see why I should care how a specs performance gets impacted in really high end content that barely 0.1% of people will realistically push to
but then they gutted roar and odyns
because that high end content effects how every single pug group tries to fill and makes it a pain for people to play the spec they enjoy . I get that you can run your own key but thats not sustainable for a lot of people.
Homie it doesn’t matter if you think you should. The spec lost perceived value so every pug saw fury warrior as a loss to the group
exactly
You might do your 8 m+ a week but that’s not EVERYONE
Perception matters in this game a ton
you’re not the majority
Neither are key pushers
I didn’t say that
Anything but the 3 chosen dps of the season is a loss for their perception
YOU don't have to be for it to effect you though, there is a massive trickle down effect in M+
I got into weeklys more than fine, and you can simply go push your own keys
You are missing our point and by a mile, Ban
No I get your point
You're just selfish and self centered?
And it's unrealistic to think you deserve special treatment, or that singular nerf caused a rippling effect that made Fury unwanted at all, and awful in keys lmao
Like everyone
Compared to the vast majority of other specs that were also overshadowed
I’m fine to agree to disagree with you Ban but the way you treat the subject and say “it was fine” is pretty shitty
All raid loot is mine nyeh
To be fair, it is arguing the value of water between a man in the Sahara and a man in suburban Norway
True
It just doesn't mesh
My opinion it was more than fine, in my experience doing keys that mattered to me, and the majority of people even playing the game, it was reasonably speaking also fine
As said by a raid logger
^
As said by PvP / m+ andies
I'm pretty sure most people who have done keys for half a season, you must be more than well aware how many other people sign up on average to keys, and how subconsciously you end up also caring "said person isn't playing X spec, so I don't care as much or I want to wait a bit longer to see if Y spec signs up instead"
Yeah as long as you only want a few 10s it's fine, but if you want to do anything above, not even "serious" pushing, it was not fine, and to say otherwise is borderline delusional.
yea everytime I see warrior its like ok I'm not taking him
Don’t call me Andy. I’m just Ken
No that's Kennie, the Prot PvP god
Not to mention, being 10-20% behind and having no niche, no moment of glory - isn't fun
I mean whyw ould you take a fury warrior in CBM over almost anything? Same with priory, or DFC, sure we can shine, but in a pug situation you are rarely if ever going to get the chance, becuase of the perception that is set by competitive pushers
Why are we talking about S2 dungeons
can take a fury in top tho poggers
Yeah, it's one thing to have great prio and bad aoe, but we don't really shine at all
I mean those nerfs are still there
top is goated dungeon
Because the point remains and has been true since the first nerfs?
Yeah OF and BS got buffed
To give them credit priory is in season 3
Are we ignoring how they've effectively re-buffed the abilities later down the line or am I just misrembering what they've buffed?
But it’s nowhere near where it was
No I just mentioned that
If Odyn’s was back to where it was we’d be deifying @dense elbow for being a prophet of Skyhold
Wdym we didn’t lose it, it got changed for a better talent right 
yes very helpful redesign of talent
certainly will be used ever in any iteration of the spec
you are ignoring the part where everything else got buffed more so comparatively they're still weaker than they were in early s1
Double down on RB every ptr cycle after they changed TT
They made RA 9.0 again too
Sure, but I still initially am talking from a perspective of S1, and mostly early S1
I do not try to compare our damage profile from then vs now because they're vastly different due to tuning, and changing Titan's Torment

TT can rest in piss
Honestly if bladestorm just did more damage baseline and thunderclap was square root past 8 I'd be fine with fury
Harm to OF still not been undone
I miss my 45sec Root Break
What key lvl you start to get fucked bc fury ? I have raider privilege so I was taken in 15s-16s even tho I have tank Rio
Pretty much at 16
now 16s, but depends on the point in the season tbh
i mean fury's done 20's sure its not really close to the other dps but you rarely are failing a key due to lack of dps
its dying to stuff/not planning properly
I do 18s, you get in. You just feel bad for those who accept you
^
I still get declined to 10s even with above 3100io
You are such a troll pick. But, player skill matters at the level where ppl still are worse than you
Yeah I meant if you want to solo queue m+ swordish, the gentlemen are talking about that
tank damage spec
Would you say it… thunder claps?
I mean for the longest time it was basically noxiv and that is pushing the really high keys on fury, and thats whith a comp basically built around them and a world class tank
no i mean fury in 20s
❤️
You play Colossus
I think prot pala might do more dmg 11.2 tbh
Isn’t TC baseline for prot?
Yes, but you are there to set up fat Demos
Clap as col is troll
ill put a fat demo in you
Demolish my b—
TC is a generator at best
Well yeah
And rend applier
Who cares about rend, I got demolish to send
^
I mean even as col is it not something you use in your main rotation just for rage gen?
You care about rend with next tier set no ?
ss
Fury is dead
Oppressor > CDs > Shield Charge > Demo > Dead Healer Storage
watf is oppressor
Only if you are really unlucky with SS resets
The fuck is oppressor
PvP talent
Oppress my balls
Fuck that actually made me laugh
Sad: person who hates mozzarella makes good joke
Raid loggers never understanding the fun talents like Battlefield Commander
Raid loggers not understanding having fun in m+
You can taunt in pvp? Like does it work like a taunt on a mob or?
Idk I only do PvP in BGs and epic BGs, and I’m clueless
You apply a debuff
Otherwise Taunt does nothing in pvp
Keep ppl in combat, fuck with pet AI, eat some defensive stacks, proc stuff
You take Oppressor so you can debuff players and smack the fuck outta them
I take clap root talent bc I liked bfa S4 prot
Better give that to fury
With our tank dps lol
So we become a real support spec
Don’t forget heroic leap reset taunt cd, very useful tech 
Between Battlefield Commander & Thunderous Words, we kinda are
Next season it’s not
I used that once in my life
Liar
PvP 
Bigger lies
Keep rogue in combat panic chase spam
No one does PvP

Give them the pvp spec
I love it
AoE fear break is better too 
No way that thunderous roar buff still makes other people better than you at damage
Lmao
We need that
Yeah, but then you can still cope that you are actually contributing
We a support spec
We scale like aug
If it doesn’t show on my bar like an Aug evoker it doesn’t count
After you do a key, always remember to do the AP% tax
You will be close to 2nd DPS

I run all keys with magic users so I don’t pay taxes



Yeah but you could have contributed same AP% tax but arms or prot, so u bad
It’s my AP though!
Our AP
Comrade funky
That’s what I’m thinking with each warrior in each guilds
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I can’t wait for blizzard to be like “uuuuh yeah here’s a 5% dmg buff to meat cleaver” and we’ll all be like mmm yes blizzard thank you huffs hopium
Im putting all my money on femboys for the future
5% MC buff, after a 10% aura Nerf.
Enjoy 






