#fury

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coarse nest
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Oh and Weakauras macro button

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Extra action button bind

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Fits nicely for me

vagrant glacier
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what % mastery is too much?

coarse nest
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101%

sour frigate
coarse nest
sour frigate
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Something around 60 is optimal usually

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If speaking roughly

pallid hull
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i will jerk off to Chris Metzen aggressively everyday on istagram until they buff fury

sour frigate
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The fuck

coarse nest
fleet pasture
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Commitment to the cause

pallid hull
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doing the work for all of you

fleet pasture
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i can respect that

pallid hull
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im like jesuse

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taking all humans problems on me

plush zephyr
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I have health pot/haste pot/auto walk/mount on mouse. So, I’m a liar.

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I didn’t know where tf to put them when I switched to prot lmao

coarse nest
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Oh yeah I do mounts on the top two buttons of the mouse

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Scroll wheel forward is stance bind

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Scroll wheel back is hamstring

plush zephyr
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Z/X for stances for me

coarse nest
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Bro you eat two binds for stances!?

vagrant glacier
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do u guys still use cyrce circlet

coarse nest
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Get the macro

plush zephyr
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Leave me be

coarse nest
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It lasts along time for fury

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It gives alot of mastery

pallid hull
plush zephyr
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I played StarCraft majority of my life, these buttons ain’t shit

mossy fox
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race?

pallid hull
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who will give bob head?

plush zephyr
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NA tho

chilly fractal
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I wonder if kids still Bob for apples

mossy fox
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hmm okay

coarse nest
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They do at the renaissance fair

chilly fractal
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I remember doing it when I was a kid but I never see it anymore

mossy fox
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i would have thought poorly of you if you chose protoss

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zerg bis

plush zephyr
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All I did when I got toss as random, was say “glhf, im toss will cheese”

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And immediately if the player was diamond or below they would just internally shatter mentally

cerulean badger
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Protoss Master Race fight me

plush zephyr
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Gross

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Basically plant aliens

earnest canyon
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i liked protoss too

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they were like harkonnen from Dune 2

plush zephyr
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Nah I like all races, and lore

coarse nest
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Me pretending I understand everything that’s being discussed

plush zephyr
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DUNE! ❤️

earnest canyon
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expensive units, but powerful

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i didnt like zerg at all

plush zephyr
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Sorry rts is still supreme gaming to me

earnest canyon
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I think Herzog Zwei invented the RTS, but I never played that as I didnt have a megadrive at the time

echo rapids
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Zerg is the zug zug race

summer quail
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protoss is the only race where the mirror matchup isn't aids. TvT and ZvZ suck to play

median marsh
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protos are op

plush zephyr
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I can agree with that

coarse nest
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@young swan wasn’t able to catch ya last night on aqw, wife had other plans when I walked in the door after work.
This weekend maybe!

plush zephyr
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Playing random pvp was the only thing I enjoyed mirror wise

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Tvt I would always cheese. Fuck an hour long turtle match.

coarse nest
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Zug is the way

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Any and all games

summer quail
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PvP you can just do weird things. love going dts in PvP

plush zephyr
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ZvZ made my brain hurt.

plush zephyr
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Being like 8-9. whooooo is this alien lady

coarse nest
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Idk who that is but I’ll play along

marble pilot
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Starcraft bug mommy

coarse nest
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Oh.. it be like that..

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If there’s a will there’s a way

wintry smelt
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@mossy fox Where u i miss u

mossy fox
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Back home on sunday

coarse nest
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He re rolled DK

silent burrow
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Frost dk good

smoky vale
robust basin
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So just starting mythic Gallywix tonight. Been looking at logs and the best trinket for this fight looks to be Eye of Kez. However, I only have a heroic one. Would a heroic Eye beat out either a Mythic Pacemaker or Mythic Lock-N-Stalk for this fight? It doesn't when simming Single target.

torpid elbow
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Warriors not looking good this next season

coarse nest
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Sim Patchwerk 7-8 minutes

wintry smelt
coarse nest
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That will roughly be the kill time

mossy fox
tawny mulch
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critcake > rogue discord

edgy widget
robust basin
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I was simming for 5 mins yeah, I'll do an 8

wintry smelt
edgy widget
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huge prog tip btw - make sure you remind your RL that nobody should be kicking and any prot pallies should be sitting on their avenger's shield/divine toll in P1, you wanna milk that as long as possible

coarse nest
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I cannot get my group to do that

robust basin
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Will do lol, And Heroic Eye of Kez seems to beat pace maker by 20k on 8 mins

coarse nest
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It’s a good trinket

robust basin
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Wrecking throw worth getting for M Gally?

coarse nest
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Ye it’s good

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Basically replaces slam as a filler whenever it is up

robust basin
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Haven't gotten to use that thing since Fyrak lol

candid falcon
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isnt WW better than slam now in ST?

wintry smelt
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Windwalker mentioned

coarse nest
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Oh right this is fury chat

glad coyote
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how cooked are we again next season?

coarse nest
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Hockey puck

coarse nest
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Tuning today surely since they collected all that data yesterday

echo rapids
edgy widget
south kayak
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Yo Archi

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Thoughts on removing hack and slash

midnight sierra
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Hello 🙂

charred estuary
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If we pressed BT on cd and care about sudden death you don't really need hack and slash

south kayak
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HnS makes everything worse because of the abundance of raging blows

charred estuary
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Many do

charred estuary
winter shoal
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Some damage is more than no damage

south kayak
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That’s fine as long as you press BT on de

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Cd

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And rampage on 80 rage

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And execute on cd

charred estuary
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It would give you space to press things like onslaught and odyns too

south kayak
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This spec is fucked

charred estuary
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If those buttons existed

south kayak
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Exactly

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I don’t know why they prefer this over that

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The devs

winter shoal
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It's to spite you in particular

charred estuary
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I think they want us to weave them both but the tuning missed the mark

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If it wasn't for bloodcraze we'd just spam rb lol

winter shoal
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I mean even bloodcraze is kind of irrelevant next tier

south kayak
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My food delivery driver is taking the fucking scenic route

winter shoal
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Like it's still better to press bt with crit conditionals, but only very slightly

south kayak
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What is he doing

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The fact that RB does more damage than BT baseline is insane

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BT should be doing 50% more damage than RB

compact knot
winter shoal
mossy pelican
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ok, i will

hollow leaf
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🫡

smoky vale
coarse nest
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Just know somebody in echo

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That way you don’t have to play 18 characters and can still get the mount

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Ez W

hollow leaf
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monkahmm I know someone who was in echo

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he was mean

smoky vale
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im in echo

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you know me

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🙂

hollow leaf
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frend

robust basin
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Gonna see if my heroic Gally strat Carries over to mythic

modest condor
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you're supposed to jump off when the boss is at 0.1% not at 83%

robust basin
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😂

robust basin
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Druid is throwing so hard

edgy widget
hollow leaf
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😎

hollow leaf
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have you guys found any pattern to where the void spawns on araz?

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seems it's just spawning randomly

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we thought it was opposite of current pylon but didn't look like it

hardy cargo
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@smoky vale call loyal a dumbass at some point or soemthing for me thx

smoky vale
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no

hardy cargo
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😠

smoky vale
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🙂

smoky vale
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@gleaming siren are youlagging on boss when mage lusts

smoky vale
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its legit unplayable

cerulean badger
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im playing extra shit on ptr so we get buffed

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i got you guys

smoky vale
gleaming siren
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this is what im playing

smoky vale
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g

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g

hollow leaf
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@smoky vale only cute people lag on bosses

smoky vale
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(shadow priests)

hollow leaf
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nvm not cute

gleaming siren
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We go from boss that is literally 'just game' to a boss completely determined by a WA

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fun

coarse nest
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Weakaura boss yippie my favorite!

undone flower
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We stopped after DH council, it was really fun tbf too bad lag

earnest canyon
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Wonder if they will tone down boss mechanics once they kill dbm, wa etc, or keep em the same and just expect us to be all on voice and coordinated as fuck

undone flower
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There is a text if you have to drop the add on azaz, I hope that’s not what they mean with base game dbm

earnest canyon
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Lol

undone flower
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I noticed 20 min in bc it is so small- middle top of the screen

earnest canyon
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They clearly design some mechanics around expecting mythic players to have all these addons and the top guilds to make the wa packs that everyone else just then uses

slim coral
undone flower
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Tbh the first 5 are fine in this regard, from what I saw, dh council debuff management will be supported by weakauras, but clearly not needed

gleaming siren
undone flower
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Like dispel me typical macro, it is not those weakauras that are awful

gleaming siren
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but goddamn does this boss have NO mechanics that you have to think about

scarlet sierra
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Question about cartel chip purchases - if I have a heroic jastors diamond, is it worth getting the mythic one or can i use my third purchase on house of cards for better returns instead?

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Like is the mythic one that much better fully upgraded?

earnest canyon
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What do your sims say

hollow leaf
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fractillus is archimonde 2.0 love it

undone flower
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It is better than the heroic one obviously, but how much, yeah just sim the cartel chip in the droptimizer

hollow leaf
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just stand where WA tells you

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and boss dies

coarse nest
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Yeah like happy said

scarlet sierra
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I will do that but I was hoping for a ballpark answer before i went through all that, dont have raidbots premium so my sims arent as complete

remote bobcat
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there is no ballpark answer

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fury also really likes eye of kezan + locknstock for the last 3 bosses

slim coral
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Not bad honestly

undone flower
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Ballpark is higher ilvl = good, but after that we don’t know your gear situation etc

gleaming siren
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funny

undone flower
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Oh you see what I talked about Fractilus targets you with : ….

forest knot
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great to know which are targetting you in base ui but when rock man is all about shattering and crystaline etc

undone flower
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Yeah, I hope it will be more « telling » when it will really come out

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Hopefully midnight

sullen dove
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Not that I’m watching any testing cuz idc and more fun to exp it live but what do u just gotta hit shit with frontals

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ain’t that just like Terros or there bit more to it

slim coral
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yeah you bait walls

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its pretty easy honestly

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don't even need a weakaura

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@young swan you seeing this?

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Yeah blizzard delivered on nexus king

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This fight fucks

whole star
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Haven't played retail in a while, is fury target cap getting removed in 11.2 yet?

remote bobcat
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why do people expect it to get removed

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it'd be a bad change

whole star
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Because it worked fine from legion to tww?

remote bobcat
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im thoroughly convinced it would be a lot worse than simply making other fury spells like tblast, odyns, reap, bladestorm and rav deal proper aoe damage

summer quail
whole star
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Ravager needs DMG holy fuck

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That button feels so bad to press

rotund ginkgo
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if fury had no cap

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we'd be legit unstoppable

hollow leaf
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ok and I immediately hate nexus king

summer quail
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rly? he looks sick

remote bobcat
whole star
hollow leaf
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I feel like I'm standing in the middle of an f1 race

whole star
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Idk if it's still like this rn but during early s2 they got beaten even in 3-4 target fights

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So we lose in what's supposed to be our profile

summer quail
whole star
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Then have a cap

hollow leaf
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it's way too fast

remote bobcat
shadow flame
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fury warrior on PTR

remote bobcat
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target cap isnt inherently class balance

shadow flame
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makes me want to uninstall

hollow leaf
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fury warrior on live makes me want to do that

remote bobcat
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target cap cahnges would make them have to re-tune everything

shadow flame
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Thane is just a shitshow

hollow leaf
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I'm on it

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thane does respectable st now

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it's just shit on aoe

whole star
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Why do you want target cap thouuh

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What is fun to you about losing to uncapped classes, just wondering

slim coral
fading sky
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Just buff mest cleaver % and of! + roar

earnest canyon
fading sky
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Dk aint

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They got big slapped

earnest canyon
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O

fading sky
earnest canyon
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So what is uncapped? Bm ain't anymore

modest condor
fading sky
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Moonkin?

steel shard
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Warrior good?

earnest canyon
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Just wondering if we are asking for something super rare now

fading sky
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Mm has some abilities

modest condor
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thane tierset just needs a rework

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with the way it works now there's no reasonable tuning that could make it better than slayer in any content

earnest canyon
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But I haven't touched ptr at all

hollow leaf
hardy shuttle
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Feel like if they made the ionizing strikes only hit your primary target, and do 1 strike per target hit by tblast, maybe it could give some funnel? With another 725% buff to it

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Just giga double down on our prio damage

hollow leaf
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(technically the first buff wasn't 725%)

hardy shuttle
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Anything multiplying with 0 is still 0 sadge

hollow leaf
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so true bestie

whole star
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The latter 2 was all you'd see in s2

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"target cap doesn't matter tho trust"

earnest canyon
whole star
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Yeah UH too right?

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Or they did something with UH

fading sky
whole star
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If they're gonna cap everyone else too then I won't be so salty about it

fading sky
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Dk has been capped for ages?

earnest canyon
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Don't know anything about dk, tried to barely look at hunter too. More fun when stuff is new

olive wraith
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There was a ptr note that capped unholy

whole star
fading sky
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It is

earnest canyon
whole star
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was

fading sky
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M9

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7 targets on vamp strike

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Epidemic aint that big

whole star
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Bursting sores

fading sky
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Wounds scale somewhat upwards

whole star
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Blood is life

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Aka all your damage

fading sky
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But its not a lot od their dmg

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Blood is less than 4%

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Overall in keys

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Sores is mby hmm 10%?

whole star
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I can't tell if shit has changed that drastically in 2 months or youre trolling me

fading sky
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Its been like this for ages wdym?

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Blood is life can highroll ofc

whole star
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BIL was 40% of every UHs damage

fading sky
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Nono

whole star
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Every pull

fading sky
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Not even close

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Are u drunk?🤣

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First off, procc is random

olive wraith
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They definitely got capped this ptr cycle

earnest canyon
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Is mage capped?

fading sky
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It was wound dmg scaling

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But still a softcap if im not mistaken

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Doesnt matter dk still fucks

earnest canyon
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I'm just wondering if they will cap all main abilities or make you spec heavily into uncapped aoe and do no ST

fading sky
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Nah

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Most classes are softcspped

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Some hardcapped

whole star
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Fury and outlaw are the hardest capped classes

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Just make bladestorm not soft capped or something

fading sky
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Nah

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Caps is not issue

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Its just tuning

whole star
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Fury isnt getting tuning or unlocked caps

south kayak
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Does anyone here follow PTR performances

gleaming siren
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This boss

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FUCKS

south kayak
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I was wondering what healers are looking good

gleaming siren
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I love this boss

south kayak
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Capy

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What healers are looking good

gleaming siren
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yo

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idk

south kayak
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For next season

gleaming siren
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I heard Evoker things

south kayak
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Ok

hollow leaf
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inb4 nexus king is the new mugzee and dimensius falls in <100 pulls

marble pilot
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I doubt that happens this time.

smoky vale
gleaming siren
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🤷‍♂️

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I'm literally healing rn

smoky vale
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looks like a crazy arms frost weapon

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how far are you guys getting on this boss

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we are stuck p1

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lol

hollow leaf
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(I have no idea)

smoky vale
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just stat stick

dense elbow
marble pilot
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Just an autoloot with the visual of turning corpses into orbs then?
Sounds kinda nice honestly

dense elbow
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While so far noone seem to found anything special with it, I still hope there is some fun little easteregg extra

marble pilot
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Just aoe looting is nice I miss my lootarang

south kayak
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Is WW monk doing any good in m+ for next season?

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It’s target capped too so idk

marble pilot
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I hear brew is doing alright. It isnt vdh but doing alright. No idea on WW

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But phys comps will want at least one monk

whole star
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8% mystic touch now right?

marble pilot
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yep

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But not many classes do purely physical so it isnt really that great

whole star
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BM, warrior, outlaw rogue?

marble pilot
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Feral as well at least one of the hero trees

whole star
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Wonder if they increase battle shout

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But AP buffs the magic using phys classes so idk

marble pilot
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Doubt it. AP effects more things

dense elbow
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I really hope they dont buff AP% shout

south kayak
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Yeah it does

dense elbow
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I dont want us to be even more balanced around being a buffbot, on top of being balanced around getting buffed

whole star
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Good point I'm cool with 5%

marble pilot
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Can improve rally instead for a utility angle. Give it the better in 5 man treatment. Or something like X% more healing recieved while active. Or Damage reduction while active

whole star
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Just make it old divine bulwark for pally

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Raid wide 20% DMG reduc

marble pilot
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I think its ok in raid. Not great but its alright. Helps with predictable raid aoe damage. And % based healing. But it could still use some work in raid

charred estuary
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If it's gonna stay as bad as it is right now it should be off gcd again

marble pilot
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in m+ might as well unbind it though.

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I dont even remember what % hp it gives anymore. 10% or is it 20% of max

clever path
marble pilot
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10% oof lol

charred estuary
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I only use it if I see spirit link in keys

marble pilot
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I use it as a mini personal if I have to. Thats about it

charred estuary
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Buffs enraged Regen and victory rush

whole star
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I've been wanting war banner buffs on warrior for so long

undone flower
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Idc about buffing others tbf

quiet breach
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raid buffs are a nice balancing tool

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even if a class sucks u can throw a nice raid buff on it and it will mean every group has to at least take one so they can at least play the game

karmic crow
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i hate that im 682, and have 684 rings with a 684 jastor and STILL circlet is better

hollow leaf
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just give me a lust shout

karmic crow
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not the best rings, but a couple

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can also craft a ring if need be

edgy widget
coarse nest
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Yeah right they could think I’m going to use it for others all they want. I’m greedy and will use it for myself whenever it is optimal

wintry smelt
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Bring back night fae fury

undone flower
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Im not a fucking aug

hoary agate
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Did anyone actually use those buff allies potions this season? lol

whole star
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The engi ones? I tried for a raid and couldn't tell a difference

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Between normal temp pots

coarse nest
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Hpal in my raid did for fun I don’t know how realistically “optimal” it can be though

sullen dove
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they not really known for making random niche consumables/effects that are any significant amount better than the status quo

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oh you’ve made 30 different embellishments with different effects? Wow! Surely ones that require you to do an extra mechanic or something would provide you with a noticeable benefit!

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nah ur using the same 2 passive ones the whole xpac

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poggers

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very useful development time spent on crafted gear

coarse nest
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You know they spend a ton of time making sure all these effects don’t have absurd combinations too

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They don’t make sure they’re useful

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Just that they’re not too good

sullen dove
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feel like they could try to be a little more interesting

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even something as simple as “in your cooldowns you do 10% more damage at the cost of doing 1-2% less damage outside of them”

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could see something like that potentially being relevant if you need more damage in specific windows

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tuned to be a minor net gain over not using anything at all but like it at least makes you think about it sometimes

coarse nest
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Would be kinda neat to let people curve their specs damage profile a little bit with tools like that

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Very neat idea honestly

sullen dove
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Ofc it being a damage gain depends on how well you play in your cds but like up to the beholder to make it useful yknow

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think not too much to ask of the avg player to try and focus and play a little better in a smaller window of time vs all the time

slim coral
south kayak
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Just dodge it bro

slim coral
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True

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I think we gotta use a personal

sullen dove
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just uh void elf whole raid

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or surely they get baited by players

final eagle
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Prob you had to use the cloak for that

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like the first boss

sullen dove
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could b cool

slim coral
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Nah

sullen dove
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reduce dmg taken by void beams by 90% or something

slim coral
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There isn’t an extra action button

sullen dove
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Heart of Azeroth style

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should be

slim coral
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Fights gonna be fun to prog tho

final eagle
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funny part its the mech diff between this boss and the previous 6 ones xddd

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Its like tindral 2.0

slim coral
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Well actually the last boss is actually tindral 2.0

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You have a flying intermission and all

undone flower
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Bc too me it seems too expensive if it’s only for illusion of choice

dapper goblet
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@slim coral hey man grats on the pc trial

earnest canyon
fast mural
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at least you wont fly during the phases

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its just a flying intermission

fast mural
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i guess i missed the last boss raid testing

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havnt seen any footage sadge

slim coral
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There isn’t any testing for last bosses

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Pretty sure on mythic though we’ll be flying between phases but maybe not

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I’m mostly just messing

fast mural
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same
i know there is no testing just going of off the dungeon journal

whole yacht
junior oyster
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Only thing harder about classic is the tedium

coarse nest
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They just want you to be a dragon and glide over each one

smoky vale
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@sullen dove @covert blaze @summer quail i wanna play aug

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its calling me

slim coral
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Btw no more hopium on delve trinkets

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There is a vendor for delve trinkets now

smoky vale
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thats a w

sullen dove
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Yea but are they hero track tho

smoky vale
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100%

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would be too strong otherwise no?

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oh ic

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if they are normal and there

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zzz

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but the diff between hc and normal is basically none

fast mural
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Can't you farm normal ones without keys ?

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*champion ones

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Would be dumb if that vendor would have champions trinket
Even tho the price on them looks like they are keks

smoky vale
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@clever belfry why did you quit aug

clever belfry
sullen dove
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cuz it blows

clever belfry
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andasimp was too dangerous

flat river
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just got ashes of alar

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easy

smoky vale
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hi need 2 more warriors maybe 3 if xantaga never resubs

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@slim coral @hallow sphinx :3

flat river
smoky vale
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explode @flat river

oblique trail
clever belfry
oblique trail
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Mraow

clever belfry
young swan
clever belfry
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true.

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bed time

thick fossil
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Watch it be like Dragonsoul boss. Experiment, where you phase out of the massive killing shot.

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Only well be using cloaks.

slim coral
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You can’t phase through the beams

thick fossil
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Guess we'll just have to wait and see it than.

south kayak
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Yo bazed

slim coral
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Pretty sure they’re baited

south kayak
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What are the top dogs in m+ ptr

slim coral
#

Frost Dk by a mile

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Then BM

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And then mage I believe

#

SP good too tho

south kayak
#

Isn’t bm bigger? It has that insane stampede thing

flat river
#

just got invincible

#

big

south kayak
#

Ooo

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Gz

olive wraith
#

Boomie isn’t on top?

south kayak
#

I assume the tier set got fixed

slim coral
#

I haven’t seen a boomie above a bm or dk

south kayak
#

There was no need for the 10% aura buff on fdk

#

Reapers mark also need nerfs

olive wraith
#

Surely they’re gonna get gutted

#

Same time we get buffs copium

earnest canyon
pure hornet
covert coyote
#

i'll still be wearing cyrce's in S3 of Midnight

charred estuary
#

Is there a consensus fury slayer build for M+ on ptr at the moment

#

unsure about VC/Ashen or capstones with the flex points

olive wraith
charred estuary
#

I thought it was high up there in aoe?

#

I thought it was ramp > SD > BT

olive wraith
#

I think spamming bt is within the margin of erro(in aoe)

#

Might want to double check that I’m not super confident.

#

Either way VC is dropped I’m pretty sure

charred estuary
#

SO if VC bad you go ashen and what UF?

#

or mastery node I guess

olive wraith
#

I’ve seen builds with either stat nodes or UF

charred estuary
#

something like this then

smoky vale
#

yes

young swan
#

u could prob drop UF for 1 VC

olive wraith
#

Is VC better than 2 deft though?

charred estuary
#

Ive got a jastor I think the mastery loses value for me

#

already past 60%

olive wraith
#

I might’ve seen people using the crit node too

#

Cause once again rb just gets so much support deadge

charred estuary
#

I cant believe they saw the state of fury and said 20% more damage for rb and a chance to reap

#

if I ever find who decided that its on sight

quiet breach
quiet breach
#

i prob syhouldve asked that first lol

slim coral
#

It’s from another stream and they only got there once

olive wraith
#

Anti magic shell. There’s your raid buff dk

sullen tendon
#

did they fix the group listing teleport out method for dungeon farming?

#

its not working anymore

sudden tusk
young swan
#

ty

echo rapids
celest sierra
#

How’s fury looking for next season

#

Slayer gunna be the #1 contender for Raid and m+?

celest sierra
#

Bro I have to agree with ya . If I ever see a warrior dev in person it’s on sight . They finna learn hard Fury should be hitting . We duel wield swords not sponges

young swan
celest sierra
#

How we comparing to other classes tho ? We bottom, mid , or upper class

cosmic sundial
#

Not even on the drop down menu to compare

#

I’m huffin the doomium

orchid dagger
celest sierra
#

Blizzard should hire people like Archi to be the devs for the class. The class writers have more passion and understand of the class then the actual devs

vague sierra
#

Imagine thinking there's a warrior dev and we don't get the leftover time (lol) of the class devs they have.

oblique thistle
#

Y'all need to stop complaining

#

Fury is fine

limber oar
#

Looks slightly below avg

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(If you ignore wild outliers like frost dk and hunter)

#

Assuming theyre gonna be mikdly nerfed atm

oblique thistle
#

There's a whole month of tuning left to go and the top performers will be reigned in

#

Fury is perfectly fine as is 👍

modest condor
coarse nest
#

Surely

modest condor
#

im sure our singletarget will be fine in raid, it's the rest i'm worried about

#

they have shown no signs of making fury viable in high end m+

young swan
oblique thistle
#

Then explain why fury is still timing incredibly high keys this season

young swan
#

because it buffs specs that actually do damage

oblique thistle
#

And we also do very solid single target and prio damage

young swan
#

and theres a few players that remain devoted to warrior only

modest condor
#

because you can be 30% weaker and still time a keylevel behind world first

remote veldt
#

Fury is doing "good damage" when we got a good route and a good chainpull

modest condor
#

no it doesnt

#

compare a fury warrior with an outlaw rogue

young swan
oblique thistle
#

Yeah exactly, just plan your route accordingly and play well and you'll time the key

remote veldt
oblique thistle
#

it really is that simple

modest condor
#

fury warrior will do 5.5mil overall compared to 8mil from outlaw rogue

oblique thistle
celest sierra
#

Tbh I would be perfectly fine if fury stood out in the top tier in Raid and was bad in M+

orchid dagger
#

The spec is dogshit, and I'm sick and tired of people saying otherwise

oblique thistle
#

And who even looks at overall

celest sierra
#

Or vise versa

young swan
orchid dagger
modest condor
celest sierra
oblique thistle
#

Again why are we focusing so much on overall when most of the mobs are just shitters that melee the tank and will die to the uncapped classes anyways

celest sierra
#

The closest fury Will ever see 70M is if we attack a critter outside stormed

oblique thistle
#

Like its honestly a cope

young swan
celest sierra
#

Storm wind *

orchid dagger
modest condor
#

prio target matters but you cant chain the next pack until enough mobs have died

young swan
#

whats the use in killing a prio mob fast if the rest of the pack doesnt die at the same time

celest sierra
oblique thistle
#

Killing them fast matters if you're not going to time the key but people are still doing it anyways

modest condor
#

and fury is currently not good at killing those smaller mobs either

orchid dagger
oblique thistle
#

We will see more nerfs over the course of the month

orchid dagger
#

thinking tier set matters as much
thinking Raid is the only content that matters

#

Bruh

oblique thistle
#

When did I ever say raid is the only content that matters?

remote veldt
#

I just wish to talent Onslaught again

orchid dagger
#

We got Blizzard's strongest soldier in here tonight

orchid dagger
celest sierra
red berry
#

If you want a class that will get invited to higher keys, you need higher overalls to reflect on your ability to actually perform up to snuff in those environments. You know what is cope? Priority damage.

oblique thistle
remote veldt
orchid dagger
olive wraith
dense elbow
oblique thistle
#

Pretty sure I've seen tons of screenshots of fury warriors gapping people on bosses over the course of the season

celest sierra
oblique thistle
#

and I dont see why that would be any different next season especially with the slayer tier

red berry
#

it is at a point where its not enough that matters anymore

celest sierra
oblique thistle
#

that might change with our new tier next season

#

In fact that looks likely

olive wraith
dense elbow
orchid dagger
oblique thistle
young swan
olive wraith
#

Just wish thane had a real tier set

young swan
#

theres like

#

at least 1 other person that shares ur opinion

red berry
#

you have players here that are probably better then you saying you are wrong

celest sierra
#

Colossus and Thane are honestly a rip off . If u go back into Warcraft history . Collosus is basically what thane is . Blizz just ran out of ideas

dense elbow
olive wraith
#

Col looks pretty juicy. So I’ll play arms in m+ again next season

#

Rip fury

orchid dagger
#

Yup

dense elbow
#

Fury gonna get tuned, don't worry Hydrate

olive wraith
#

I have hope

remote veldt
#

I'm always feeling shy as fury after the first pull of priory w my 50k overall

red berry
#

there is still time its just

#

wack they havent touched anything but tier yet

celest sierra
orchid dagger
dense elbow
remote veldt
olive wraith
celest sierra
dense elbow
#

Slayer extremely good, only 1-5m behind the pack in keys Hydrate

dense elbow
#

Better Nerf to be safe

olive wraith
#

lol I meant raid and you know it

dense elbow
orchid dagger
#

Woyer might actually be played in any capacity? Nerf the fucking thing into irrelevancy

muted tulip
#

bladestorm nerfs next patch notes

orchid dagger
#

looks in Wrecking Throw pvp nerfs

oblique trail
#

Despite this though, Fury still did incredibly well for what it was good at in the raid

dense elbow
#

God damned raid

orchid dagger
modest condor
#

yeah we had a niche which happened to be very useful in that raid

#

and we paid for it

orchid dagger
#

Actually, you know what, you fucking raiders need to sandbag more

oblique trail
orchid dagger
#

So we actually catch buffs

oblique trail
#

I did just fine otherwise in raid on bosses that weren't "suited" for Fury

olive wraith
#

Silken court as thane was fun

dense elbow
#

Meh, I just hope Fury is shit tier in the coming raid

#

So I at least maybe don't have to be handicapped the whole m+ season

orchid dagger
#

^

oblique trail
#

I also already said initially that the first nerf was fine, but the rest wasn't

dense elbow
#

As long you agree to my point. Nerf didnt matter. It only shot Fury in the leg for m+

oblique trail
#

But I also just really do not care about M+ outside of just getting my weeklies done, and I don't think Blizzard really cares that deeply either about whoever is trying to push the cutting edge key levels, compared to the general state of specs and if they're just able to get their weeklies done

dense elbow
#

That was all it did

orchid dagger
#

The first wasn't because we all fucking knew they were going to go too far with it

dense elbow
#

PvP got quick aura tuning tho

#

It does not get as fucked

orchid dagger
#

Wasn't quick, and still got shafted repeatedly

dense elbow
#

M+ just dies

oblique trail
#

If you don't enjoy it at all

dense elbow
#

Oh shuah it

orchid dagger
oblique trail
#

If you care about the specs' performance that much, and it pains you to the point where you hope it's just bad so you don't have to play it, the problem lies more with you than the spec at that point

oblique trail
dense elbow
#

I care as much about the raid as you do m+, so I won't agree to the concept of: raid changes that don't matter for raid, but kill m+, is ok

oblique trail
#

The first nerf did not kill Fury for M+

#

So that point is just not real

orchid dagger
oblique trail
#

Correct

#

For I've not played the game for 3 months

orchid dagger
#

Because you'd know that the common consensus is just to reroll

dense elbow
#

It is the best solution. But not my ideal one

orchid dagger
#

^

sullen dove
#

none of you play the game at a high enough level to care about rerolling

#

barely anyone here does

#

like 1 yellow name

#

maybe 2

dense elbow
#

Even so, I push at my level, and a handicap is just that

sullen dove
#

make friends

#

do 20's

dense elbow
#

And be a handicap for them?

sullen dove
#

sure

#

if they dont care

#

noxivs group doesnt seem to care

dense elbow
#

I aint that kind of a "friend"

orchid dagger
sullen dove
#

yea i mean pvp is just a mickey mouse where u play the most unkillable classes in the game

#

and spend 5 minutes in an arena match kiting around pillars

orchid dagger
#

meanwhile, as Kennie is probably the happiest of pvp chat playing Prot War

#

The class is a joke dude

torpid elbow
#

Yo which PTR do I download 11.7.7 or 11.2.0

junior gale
#

11.3.0

dense elbow
#

All of them

#

Minmax the testing

dense elbow
cosmic sundial
#

@orchid dagger I just read through that bait from earlier and I wonder who would win in an argument, that God guy or BobbyBoon

#

I would pay money to watch them talk about fury

orchid dagger
#

Idk, Banezi was getting me pretty good earlier

#

I almost finishing leveling my DH out of spite

cosmic sundial
#

I haven’t read Banezi’s yet

wintry smelt
#

What is 12.0

oblique trail
orchid dagger
oblique trail
#

Sure I have no idea what Warrior is like really next patch so go for it

smoky vale
#

i love bestest

oblique trail
#

I however didn't talk about the state of Warrior next patch, but what it was like in S1

smoky vale
#

what happened with that god guy

#

whats this bit

cosmic sundial
orchid dagger
cosmic sundial
oblique trail
#

Reading comprehension or?

cosmic sundial
#

I was talking about the first nerfs

#

They weren’t fine

oblique trail
#

Correct

#

But they were

cosmic sundial
#

No

#

They started the downhill trend

oblique trail
#

They were genuinely a slap on the wrist and didn't appreciably change how Fury performed

cosmic sundial
#

And fury kept catching the bullet making it unplayable other than raid logging

orchid dagger
#

They weren't, especially with the hindsight of over a month of repeated nerfs afterward

cosmic sundial
#

You don’t care about m+ past weekly vault though so

oblique trail
#

Ok but now you're talking about nerfs past the first

#

Which we all can agree weren't fine

#

I'm confused

smoky vale
#

hi can we establish waht each nerfs were

#

i forgot

cosmic sundial
orchid dagger
#

Odyn's being dragged out back

gusty maple
#

I think it was odyns and bladestorm nerf

oblique trail
#

15% OF nerf and 10% BS nerf, which realistically was fine

#

They added 3% aura nerf later the same week

orchid dagger
#

Which killed M+ and to an extent pvp Fury right there

#

But to a raid logger like Banezi perfectly acceptable losses

dense elbow
#

Yep

#

That is fair tho

gusty maple
#

nah it was still fine

orchid dagger
#

Which is pretty much the entire problem with this spec and discussing it atm

oblique trail
#

I don't see why I should care how a specs performance gets impacted in really high end content that barely 0.1% of people will realistically push to

gusty maple
#

but then they gutted roar and odyns

cobalt ravine
#

because that high end content effects how every single pug group tries to fill and makes it a pain for people to play the spec they enjoy . I get that you can run your own key but thats not sustainable for a lot of people.

cosmic sundial
cobalt ravine
#

exactly

cosmic sundial
#

You might do your 8 m+ a week but that’s not EVERYONE

cobalt ravine
#

Perception matters in this game a ton

cosmic sundial
#

you’re not the majority

oblique trail
#

Neither are key pushers

cosmic sundial
#

I didn’t say that

undone flower
#

Anything but the 3 chosen dps of the season is a loss for their perception

cobalt ravine
#

YOU don't have to be for it to effect you though, there is a massive trickle down effect in M+

oblique trail
#

I got into weeklys more than fine, and you can simply go push your own keys

dense elbow
#

You are missing our point and by a mile, Ban

oblique trail
#

No I get your point

cobalt ravine
#

You're just selfish and self centered?

oblique trail
#

And it's unrealistic to think you deserve special treatment, or that singular nerf caused a rippling effect that made Fury unwanted at all, and awful in keys lmao

undone flower
oblique trail
#

Compared to the vast majority of other specs that were also overshadowed

cosmic sundial
#

I’m fine to agree to disagree with you Ban but the way you treat the subject and say “it was fine” is pretty shitty

cosmic sundial
dense elbow
#

To be fair, it is arguing the value of water between a man in the Sahara and a man in suburban Norway

cosmic sundial
#

True

dense elbow
#

It just doesn't mesh

oblique trail
#

My opinion it was more than fine, in my experience doing keys that mattered to me, and the majority of people even playing the game, it was reasonably speaking also fine

orchid dagger
#

As said by a raid logger

dense elbow
#

^

undone flower
#

As said by PvP / m+ andies

oblique trail
#

I'm pretty sure most people who have done keys for half a season, you must be more than well aware how many other people sign up on average to keys, and how subconsciously you end up also caring "said person isn't playing X spec, so I don't care as much or I want to wait a bit longer to see if Y spec signs up instead"

cobalt ravine
#

Yeah as long as you only want a few 10s it's fine, but if you want to do anything above, not even "serious" pushing, it was not fine, and to say otherwise is borderline delusional.

gusty maple
#

yea everytime I see warrior its like ok I'm not taking him

cosmic sundial
orchid dagger
dense elbow
cobalt ravine
#

I mean whyw ould you take a fury warrior in CBM over almost anything? Same with priory, or DFC, sure we can shine, but in a pug situation you are rarely if ever going to get the chance, becuase of the perception that is set by competitive pushers

oblique trail
#

Why are we talking about S2 dungeons

sullen dove
#

can take a fury in top tho poggers

cobalt ravine
#

Yeah, it's one thing to have great prio and bad aoe, but we don't really shine at all

cosmic sundial
hardy cargo
cobalt ravine
#

Because the point remains and has been true since the first nerfs?

cosmic sundial
#

Yeah OF and BS got buffed

undone flower
oblique trail
#

Are we ignoring how they've effectively re-buffed the abilities later down the line or am I just misrembering what they've buffed?

cosmic sundial
#

But it’s nowhere near where it was

sullen dove
#

eh still no real compensation for losing titans torment

#

33% less of's unfort

cosmic sundial
#

If Odyn’s was back to where it was we’d be deifying @dense elbow for being a prophet of Skyhold

undone flower
#

Wdym we didn’t lose it, it got changed for a better talent right clueless

sullen dove
#

yes very helpful redesign of talent

#

certainly will be used ever in any iteration of the spec

modest condor
undone flower
#

Double down on RB every ptr cycle after they changed TT

charred estuary
#

They made RA 9.0 again too

oblique trail
#

I do not try to compare our damage profile from then vs now because they're vastly different due to tuning, and changing Titan's Torment

cosmic sundial
#

Rest in peace TT

orchid dagger
dense elbow
#

TT can rest in piss

charred estuary
#

Honestly if bladestorm just did more damage baseline and thunderclap was square root past 8 I'd be fine with fury

dense elbow
#

Harm to OF still not been undone

orchid dagger
#

I miss my 45sec Root Break

undone flower
#

What key lvl you start to get fucked bc fury ? I have raider privilege so I was taken in 15s-16s even tho I have tank Rio

charred estuary
#

Pretty much at 16

cosmic sundial
#

10

cobalt ravine
#

now 16s, but depends on the point in the season tbh

sullen dove
#

i mean fury's done 20's sure its not really close to the other dps but you rarely are failing a key due to lack of dps

#

its dying to stuff/not planning properly

dense elbow
orchid dagger
#

^

cosmic sundial
#

I still get declined to 10s even with above 3100io

smoky vale
#

if you play fury in 20s

#

you need prison

dense elbow
#

You are such a troll pick. But, player skill matters at the level where ppl still are worse than you

undone flower
#

Yeah I meant if you want to solo queue m+ swordish, the gentlemen are talking about that

smoky vale
#

tank damage spec

orchid dagger
#

Fury? No

cosmic sundial
cobalt ravine
#

I mean for the longest time it was basically noxiv and that is pushing the really high keys on fury, and thats whith a comp basically built around them and a world class tank

smoky vale
#

no i mean fury in 20s

orchid dagger
gusty maple
#

I think prot pala might do more dmg 11.2 tbh

cosmic sundial
orchid dagger
dense elbow
#

Clap as col is troll

smoky vale
#

ill put a fat demo in you

cosmic sundial
#

Demolish my b—

orchid dagger
#

TC is a generator at best

cosmic sundial
#

Well yeah

dense elbow
undone flower
#

And rend applier

dense elbow
#

Who cares about rend, I got demolish to send

orchid dagger
#

^

cosmic sundial
#

I mean even as col is it not something you use in your main rotation just for rage gen?

undone flower
#

You care about rend with next tier set no ?

cosmic sundial
smoky vale
#

ss

wintry smelt
#

Fury is dead

orchid dagger
#

Oppressor > CDs > Shield Charge > Demo > Dead Healer Storage

smoky vale
#

watf is oppressor

dense elbow
cosmic sundial
#

The fuck is oppressor

orchid dagger
#

PvP talent

undone flower
#

Oppress my balls

orchid dagger
#

Taunt says 5% Increased damage

#

For everyone

cosmic sundial
#

Sad: person who hates mozzarella makes good joke

dense elbow
orchid dagger
#

Raid loggers never understanding the fun talents like Battlefield Commander

dense elbow
#

Raid loggers not understanding having fun in m+

cosmic sundial
undone flower
#

Idk I only do PvP in BGs and epic BGs, and I’m clueless

orchid dagger
#

Otherwise Taunt does nothing in pvp

dense elbow
orchid dagger
#

You take Oppressor so you can debuff players and smack the fuck outta them

undone flower
#

I take clap root talent bc I liked bfa S4 prot

orchid dagger
#

Slap this on a healer in a bgb and they melt

dense elbow
#

Better give that to fury

orchid dagger
dense elbow
#

So we become a real support spec

cosmic sundial
#

New warrior spec: field medic

#

:)

undone flower
#

Don’t forget heroic leap reset taunt cd, very useful tech clueless

orchid dagger
olive wraith
undone flower
#

Liar

dense elbow
#

PvP sadge

undone flower
#

Bigger lies

dense elbow
#

Keep rogue in combat panic chase spam

undone flower
#

No one does PvP

dense elbow
orchid dagger
dense elbow
#

How to make Fury a viable m+ spec

#

More buffs for others

orchid dagger
#

Give them the pvp spec

dense elbow
#

I love it

undone flower
#

Yeah better piercing howl is THE thing we need

#

The rally is nice

dense elbow
#

AoE fear break is better too clueless

cosmic sundial
#

No way that thunderous roar buff still makes other people better than you at damage

#

Lmao

dense elbow
#

We need that

orchid dagger
dense elbow
#

We a support spec

undone flower
#

We scale like aug

cosmic sundial
dense elbow
#

After you do a key, always remember to do the AP% tax

#

You will be close to 2nd DPS

cosmic sundial
dense elbow
#

Holey troll Batman

#

Not only do you get boosted, you also pay no tax

cosmic sundial
orchid dagger
undone flower
cosmic sundial
#

It’s my AP though!

dense elbow
#

Our AP

cosmic sundial
undone flower
#

That’s what I’m thinking with each warrior in each guilds

dense elbow
#

Sovietflagfurybongocat.gif

smoky vale
#

reported

undone flower
dense elbow
#

Aight I am getting the mods

#

Moooods

#

Ban him

cosmic sundial
#

I can’t wait for blizzard to be like “uuuuh yeah here’s a 5% dmg buff to meat cleaver” and we’ll all be like mmm yes blizzard thank you huffs hopium

undone flower
#

Im putting all my money on femboys for the future

dense elbow
#

Enjoy purpleface

orchid dagger