#fury
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Blizzard buffed Mystic Touch from 5% to 8%. I see a lot of people conflating this as a buff to physical classes. In the next month or two, tuning will bring these classes back to the baseline accounting for the buff, especially because we are still in PTR.
Thus this change will have negative effects for ...
Ngl we were 900-4000 ping on the DH council hc somehow
hes probably right
Formulate your own thoughts, nobody in here has anything valuable to say about anything
but he's kinda right
At least we saw the enrage 
His math is wrong but it doesn't change the points he's making
DH council enrage is the most crazy looking phase I’ve ever saw
I think it is the right thing to do
BS is the pinpoint for AoE
its funny that they throw an 8% dmg buff on monks while arguing about gribs raidbuff potential - kinda out of touch
In 1 h30 ptr first 3 boss mythic
yea its still ridiculous
Im okay with monk buff buff, im phys dude 
It’s actually criminal that we haven’t really seen anything for warrior
Like a hamstring change!?
Wow they really out did themselves
Prot got his tree reworked
It's an L for phys dudes though outside of monks themselves - we'll be tuned accordingly and the only net result is we'll be comparatively worse when we don't have a monk
Only because they wanted to remove spell block
They think we lack enough intelligence to learn what we can use spell block on
Thanks blizzard appreciate that
Meanwhile spell reflect and regular block, or just MDT
just make spell reflect spell block too
way less stupid shit with a long cd and long duration
Grip is a raid buff same way as gate
helpful quick cd that’s more likely to be frequently/correctly used
fuck spell block lowkey
cringe bandaid
I 100% expect all phys users to be top dmg with monk
oh u cant deal with magic dmg? here is a 20s immunity
thats not a solution legit
id rather have 2 stronger spell reflects
or something
Two charges of spell reflect
and that maybe
Sounds giga
The real issue is the tuning disparity between melee and mages and boomkins in m+
even if u argue that way, not the same ballpark
not even close ^^
Wizard comps supreme reign getting old innit
Yea but u don’t care about lock gate
U care about health stones
I care about lock gate
you need grip like you need gate
i fw gate
Oh u care

Many classes love gate
And the portal ngl
- summoning and not having to run bakc
Without gate painsmith doesn’t die
real
I mean its such a nice to have even when not mandatory
Imagine the sprocket solution without gate
I got told that my healthstone and hpot usage was low and I was like bruh I'm spamming IV
why the fuck am i gonna press those
Warrior supreme
It is a lil bit miserable to see, sprocket without the gate
Spamming iv???
It is actually very gameable without gate
Seems like a waste
Just requires you to squeeze next to the opposite color
I use IV before pot and stone
Right now yes, you just get bump in opposite side from the middle to the entrance and back room
Costs a global so it isn’t optimal
But I like to have pot stone for emergency’s where I may not be near a target
People don’t know how often iv is up unless they play warrior
Like for Gally IV is so op
Iv every single absorb
idk
Gamer
Yep
Gate is useful way more often than grip ever is
same
They are just not comparable
iv is busted
id rather save my other 2 for when 3 healers are dead
lowkey
🤫
We’ll get that nerfed too
actually unkillable

Sure but that doesn’t change the philosophy behind what they’re doing and what the devs are trying to do
Warrior actually lives a ton of shit if you actually use the toolkit you have
People are just allergic to dstance for example
warlocks don’t just have gate though
Or thane with the mini rally
That is op dude
Mini rally every 25 seconds
And stance
And reflect
health stone I think is way stronger than amz 90% of the time
What’s killing you??
with this raid that might change
amz gonna own on a lot of fight
Bdk W
idk how can people die as thane
its legit a challenge
with 129418 mil hp
perma self healing
leech
a lot of dr on low cd
iv
bi
er
100% to 0% type of of shit I guess
I think my hp is like 14m when I mini rally as thane
dstance sr is enough to live
It’s actually so good
I can click on the bandit coils 
Where warr changes
12.0
We gonna play exactly the same till 12.0?
yep bfa
Fuck sake at least let us play odyns or the other shit of the left that I dont even know the name
😂
as a new player is it better to craft your weapon or to use cartel coins to buy it ?
I already bought jastor / eye of kezan and i got 6 coins left
I would craft weapons because the heroic versions are worse
Buy a HoC
Eye isn’t that great in heroic
So I’d buy a pacemaker also
anyone tryna watch me run m+ on my fury and tell me how I can improve my dmg ?
hoc and pacemaker , eye of kezan isnt good ?
It’s not that great on fights shorter than about 5 minutes
hi gio57 im raging blow57
do u guys think crafting 2 hander first will be the play next season?
I remember when I switched from my fury to my prot and was like “why did my health only go up like 4 mil”
Fury’s = mini tanks
I gambled for vault weapon 3 weeks
If I didn’t get it by second craft I was going to send it
alright , thank you !
yep
typical
Shit dude. I always pray for myth track weapon first week. Basically done on that the rest the reason lol
is fury dead for m+ again? Seems like it?
We wont know before tuning is done, but currently - it aint looking too well
Yeah they could give thane another 700% buff so it mildly annoying tickles instead of normal tickles
Lets just hope it aint as in this season, where our ST is what 10% better, but our AoE is half of that of others
Has any of the other classes put out ther st number yet
Hard to make up that 1-2m DPS overall gap, if our ST dont actually pull its weight
Wonder where our 3.6 compares to others
I havnt seen other class numbers but simming at 3.5m ST as slayer right now according to #updates-midnight
No idea where everyone else is right now though. Except the bugged classes. like boom was doing 7m or something
SP doing 6m ST 
I mean initially
Not sure if Archi summit with current gear ilvl
Or what he used
Who knows, doesnt really matter
Thane isnt even hitting 3m. And is basically the same as slayer for aoe
Yea
I gambled on my bdk, never again
I have fun with slayer. I just really like thane
Not really funky
has anyone tried slayer ra ye
Right now I’ve had easier time timing high keys as slayer
And letting others do the aoe
Yep, on low target count
Well it’s more
It is current ilvl for my big guess
500k less single target for 30k more aoe. I guess I dont know how many targets are on the sim though.
When others are doing an extra 8 mill
Hear hear
If you play Fury, dont care about numbers, play what you want
cause ya already trolling
Being a shitterspec got its perks
Also balance isnt done yet I guess. Anything could still happen. But it isnt looking great
Believe in the rng and it will provide
Considering base is 2.9m I’m assuming that’s current gear with no tier set
They already said they think warrior is in a decent spot
so yes will be much higher than 3.6 next season
Meh, will be some tuning, but prob just some nerfs to make up for the Monk buf buff we get
According to the post weeks ago lol
Bottom of the pack. Good spot. Just where we want em
can’t make a sim for next season without deciding what gear the sim is gonna wear
and that shit pointless rn
So gz if spriest ppl wasting their time on that
Doubt we will be bottom tier in raid, Grund. Dont worry. Our ST will be at worst be decent.
We will just need to capitialize on that minor strenght we got, to not be a total handicap in M+
prioooo damaaaage
Prio damage!
You can guesstimate. Just change all your gear ilvl
To next seasons
And run the new tier sim with that
Yeah im not overly worried. And ive said it before im almost certainly staying fury.
Worse case I can tank keys if I need to. And dps raid
Not sure but those numbers look correct at current ilvl ~684
Worst case, you just open your wallet and pay for a spot in keys
"note tips" btw
Yeah I heard the bleed build prot has crazy sustain in season 3
Yea I would love to know what other classes are simming to have a comparison
Def would like to see frost dk
26 was fine vault to aberrus
But we scale with stats or so ive heard more ilvl better
Love current mythic gear being equivalent to lfr gear
Yea
um
My god, true
Very worth our time to gear alts right now
Fury SCALES the best
are the talents goingn to be different for season 3?
FURY SCALES WITH GEAR!
More mastery more haste = op
Not by a lot
maybe 1 or 2
whats going to be different do you think and why``
A bit, but dont worry about it - a full guide will be relesed before launch 
Yea no more visciius contempt
Idk if we care about bt talents as much cuz more sudden death
I still don't know how much of a meme "fury scales with gear" is
Doesnt everyone
So 2 more points , prolly going into crit now
prolly that yea
okay ❤️
Yay ❤️
It is... let me calculate quickly
mhm, yep yep... uhuh, add for... yap. Ok... ok.
||100% a meme||
There has to be some kind of list though for how each spec scales with stats. They cant all be even.
I just have no idea how to check or evaluate that
fury scales with gear cuz other classes scale with changes and buffs
Like I know its a meme but it could be true as well
Righhttttt
warlocks have been on every patch note for like 12 years now
maybe we’ll get something soon
Thane buffs next week don’t worry 
Don’t settle for less!!
Ionizings gotta cleave or proc more times on aoe
It needs love one way or another
5 strikes per target would go crazy. And make tblast reset its cooldown when you get a proc
Reset tb would be my fave i think. Tb spam
So whats going to be replacing vicious contempt and why?
Wow those warlock buffs
Next tier we don’t press bt often
They do seem big. But I have no idea how much % those numbers are to overall
4p slayer needs to be changed to rampaged increases SD execute damage by 5% for every use after rampage stacks 2x
Or you know, just (4) is execute again
Fuck that rb bullshit
Is everything being buffed except warrior? Everytime i see a tuning post that seems to be whats happening lol
Slayer set is pretty good though
The tier is fine imo
4p is super bleh
Just buff abilities instead
Cause we are fine, that is fine, if it is fine it is fine, its fine. Fine.
lol like ppl are content with mediocracy
Did you not read what I said
This is from a priory first pull on ptr. Destro seems fine. Though that hunter is going crazy
Our tier doesn’t need to be buffed. Just buff our kit instead
Nah fuck being mid, I wanna push every bit of dps possible lol
Mid-above average is fine
Yikessss
That frost video I saw yesterday….. dude was doing 50mil++ on some pulls
This is all single target buffs
Impolsion was on that list for 15% isnt that liek all of destros aoe
I dont actually know
Like destro damage in m+ is all ROF and wither and blackened soul
Oh I was looking at demo
Imp is demo
Any good raid builds to test? I need to play this class for testing today and have to piece something together in a rush
I think demo aoe is a lot of little different things, lots of pet cleave and such
BM is hilarious, 4 buttons while fully moving for top tier damage
OK how about this one
No idea
Like 2 seconds later the boomy was also at 25m lol
And we are scared to buff all fury by 10%
I think current wowhead build works for raid
Can’t remember if we change anything atm
on ptr?
yee
Cone did
that's st
Ye that’s it
Arcane on the target dummies.
Like this stuff is why im debating swapping. I love fury but please I wanna hit 50m even if its only for 10 seconds
At one point this was the best aoe spec but idk if it is anymore
it won't be THAT far off at least
Arcane is a safe one if you want, they are kind of mid in raid ST so they wont be nerfed
Plus funnel damage is pretty good
Yeah I have one. Its just trash gear. Funny though when you look up fury videos. Most of them just say it feels bad and to send help
Yeah I love how fury plays
Just turn off the dps meter and vibe and you will have a great time
Or just raid. And do m+ with friends who dont care
prolly thane rn
its simming slightly more
Not for raid
Are there any heavy aoe fights?
I think there are a few cleave fights. I dont know about heavy aoe though
Anything with periodic adds means thane is right out
thane requires sustained aoe to keep up, and even then only if add damage is the bottleneck
Is the best st still no capstone on left side
So basically all these build wil be doing 50 mil plus and we won’t break 20
Hellll yeassssss
Umm i don’t know I haven’t done anything in almost 3 weeks
That’s ok I’ll pass them again
But this event is to godly to not partake in
of class tree or
cruel strikes with exe steroids is too strong
As in roar or spear
why they put avoidance on every pieces now ?
I can’t wait to try spear build
Imagine those juicy crits
no roar capstones you mean? yeah afaik
No Str? Must be a hunter weapon.
BiS for MM hunters.
after bladestorm when we stack slaughtering strikes, do we still stack them even if we drop enrage or do we opt to rampage?
I dont know the correct answer. I just rampage once enrage drops. But ive heard some people keep stacking until they run out of procs even if enrage does drop
And im not the best warrior so they might be right
Yeah looks like rampage when not enraged is a few steps above stacking
my brain skipped that line ty
I find that normally it doesnt matter anyway. If you rampage before bladestorm then you usually have plenty of time to get 4/5 stacks before enrage drops anyway.
buy it outside of the raid I think
I mean brother, what u need is for the last bt cast by unhinged to increase enrage then yes
If notnprob 2rbs b4 ramp
maw of the void cro
i found cro
what's different
So is MT garbo now that vicious contempt is baed?
it looks like normal simple first boss tings
it has extra mechanics
MT is garbo because of its tier set, not because of VC. VC didn't change at all, it's only "worse" for slayer because RB and exe got comparatively better due to the slayer tier set
this boss is rpetty fun
When do I start coffinposting
woah this 2h cool
BM doing 14m overall, I sit there with my UwU catears on going "boost me senpaiiii" doing 5m DPS
Plz tell me they were playing bad
giovanni five seven always playing bad
he needs to become raging blow57
probably was
blud should stick to arms
suddendeathfiveseven
Was only 9th tho
So like 5 other dps worse?
unless deadge
idk we keep killing it then wiping at 1%
@sudden tusk whats the build bud
@gleaming siren help
i mean
im pressing rb
1 1 1 2 1 1 1 3
Idk literally same as now pick somethin other than vc tho
raging blow
Vc = 500k loss gg
hell yeah
sorry if this is already posted somewhere, but as fury do you use authority of the depths on both weapons for ST?
Yeah
Until maybe it doesn’t get buffed and use secondaries
But that’s next season possibility idk
Depends, in M+ you chose between trying to patch our shit AoE, or trying to get more of the thing we bring (st)
rn still depths
poggers
Arms the true chad spec
love embellishments not getting buffed by Ilvl for no reason
peak design
seems like fury is stronger for raid fights when you lust in the beginning though

@sullen dove it was teh diff
yea u are cooked
powerful
no it was not
it was
bro found the rb button
ez
almost as if
u are supposed to spam
required
i love raging blow
love bsl giving you 20% mastery in s4
i love you too gio
(Dawnthread gives .5% now)
surely next patch we don’t wear embells and 3 more Ilvl outweighs secondaries
cluegi
Gio help I get gapped by Hunter
do i go ra
by over >1m
so arms is looking much better than fury next season?
stop posting details with tettles in there
Never
rodent
me and the fury in my group are very close
sho > tettles
Below tettles = your class is dogshit
this would be a banger
ballsniffer
so the general consensus right now is that warrior sucks next season? lol
balls alert
furys goodish in raid
some outliers
prolly even enough when it’s time
the general consensus right now is that some specs are very overtuned

which makes warriors look worse
Real: No, it is expecting some tuning.
Doomer: IT IS OVER, SO OVER!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
lol yea i hear ya
Is Fury better than Arms in Raid?
Atm fury looses to prot in keys
Or well almost🤣
fuck
Mby not after tier nerf dno how it affects prot
My guild is asking me to play warrior in s3
Do we know if we're still sending sudden death at 1 stack after the 10% nerf
Or is it looking like back to 5 different conditions
i just want to be top 5 in dps during raid
if you can play prot in keys and dps in raid you're bingchilling
at 1 prolly
that sounds good to me
Ya can prob just skip the WA, but either way: WA will say ca-ching
0
Just send on SD proc
I wonder where the SD proc ends up in priority on a m+ pack
fury just sends
Probably still below BT and rb
It’s still over everything
Oh wow even on aoe?
No matter the amount of mobs
Yes
I'm erect
prolly loses to bt at some funny number
Maybe in VC range
I mean maybe at like 15
vc xddd
WW (for stacks), Rampage (for enrage), SD proc, BT, RB, execute
Problem is you get swamped, as you suddenly sit there with double instant procs, needing to WW and rampage
it clutters real quick
We are fine, wdum?
3 vs 5m in st?
not everyone can be top DPS, its fine being mid or low
someone got to be low or mid, that is fine
its fine
all is fine
This entire class looks giga undertuned rn lmfao
300k behind the top realistic spec doesn’t seem horrible
yeah, it is kinda dread'full
And I'm not just saying that because a BM Hunter literally doubled my damage
Would rather it be closer to 100k or less though
Only double?
you cant say that when we have prot
Tell him to stop slackin'
Okay, fine, two of the three DPS specs look undertuned af
If they just took this current tier set and made WW cleave hit 8 targets I'd have no notes
For slayer anyways
All fun and games, till you tank Arcane slashes and got no spellblock

its not jsut m+
its raid too
lol
but we are good at prio
Yeah but raid you will always be brought for a shout
just rng it with the new thing
ez
i mean we can stil perform
True, I live all the time, 8% of the time

Ofc we will be fine
im usually near th top but thats jsut a skill thing i could say. but we have to play flawless t be enar the top
Idrc about raid
And most people who have a mythic guild they run with aren't worried about their spot
Our logs are only compared to other warriors
So who cares
you can not be fine
by the definition of fine/good/great used in here
its physically impossible
to not be fine
like give me the feeling where if i play perfect my damage is though the roof
1 season
True
We've had it before
When
7.1 and the first couple weeks of 11.0
@compact knot what build are you palying
slayer
same shti as current
ye
i love arms
i dont ebenm know why ppl play PTR anyways
i dont think slayer arms changed at all
unpaid testers for blizz
when ur like top 100 guild it helps
Because it's fun to see?
also fun
If fury was dogshit in m+ and behind arms in raid I'd be on suicide watch
okay the second boss
I would try to sneak into raid testing if they did it at night
is not an arms fight
I’m always at work
heroic dungeons dont count
And it’s not worth taking off
wdym
500k
its a perfect arms fight
500k ahead of arms?
you can sweep the webs and execute
200k
yeah thats current profile
And so why 500k
because there are sims that you dont see
these fights dont even get to go to execute
is this mog too much to ask fro
Juggernaut is stilø there and dmg is shit. Its deffo deas
If arms does more AoE, we call that balance ⚖️
jugg might be the only reason arms gets played this tier
Who wants to be balanced when you could be 1M above everyone else

@compact knot oh nah
oh wow thats loomithar
u gotta lock in
i thought that would be the gigis aoe boss
Yeah this fight owns
what are you at
Rip arms time to swap
Nah that’s the next boss
thats pretty decent
🥀
prior to the execute
especially considering no VC on execute phase damage amp boss
im imp ss
This boss does not have a real hitbox
yapping to me
is it still really small
guys
great
i hate this hitbox
already on it
idk what im doing wrong
any fury streams?
madox
you will take 2 ticks and die if you dont leap
was able to max out at 3.8
couldnt get screenshot fast enough
dk tho
Baze do you guys have any augs
warrior defensive, press bt 
i did the good thing
I played for the group
it was the kill as well.
i jsut wanna improve my parse man
I've sucked shit through a straw on mugzee and then randomly cranked out a r10 this week
Literally the best pull I've ever had by like 300k
played the same as always
sometimes it just be like that ykwim
good catching on that shrapnel tho
i think i should try to care about jugg more
AJ is rly good
very undervalued by many
yeah its bad

i was at like 3.8m at like 40% as arms
then died
this spec is just so gamba
random 15 million mortal strike
and i did noting
that makes my heart hurt
yo its gala57
hi anda57
im swaping to them once they to get execute
this is one of those weird bosses
im 58 m8
@smoky vale hi gala57
where its ability to be sweeped is a lot bigger than its actual hitbox
ah
only fiveseven allowed sorry....
noway
balls
cause of balls
gio57
Balls
balls indeed
whats your thoughts so far for arms in the ptr?
arm
oops wrong chat 😂
close to fury
probably better when you get into execute
No way
tbf considering the lag fury feels p good

Is this the aoe boss?
np
arms lookin deadgeroni and cheese or what

far as I've heard from sarri they're fine but fury is just ahead
might play arms on nexus king but otherwise not many fights where execute is important
Do i really wanna play fury or swap
Nexus king doesnt read very Execute to me
ngl
nah was more based on if dragon is maybe in execute
Well
will have to see how mythic works
it is a 50% burn
65% in execute range surely large
bring a full stack jugg in there
On jah gonna be pretty easy next tier
Would have to be omega unluck
Every sd being guaranteed 1/3 of the way to another sd
an omega manaforge unluck? Clueless
me when im evil
only need to get like 66% as lucky as now or something
akshually its not 1/3 cause thats only imminent demise 
ye u need to get unlucky to drop it at least from my testing on a dummy
uhh yea I think I will go cry myself to sleep
yea no natty sds included
not a good pull but uhh
why is schmidus bawling
dead last xdd
IS THAT DEMO WARLOCK 
where toph
if frost keeps being like this we might just keep tank as pwar and I go dk
Playing in another guild
I was #6 in P2
holy moly
P1 is just dogshit
wtf warrior OP?
I didnt wanna charge cause
nerf pls!
Charging these adds is suicide
apparently u can bs straight thru the lines
i just watched baze do it
they did a bit too much damage for me to try another thing that might kill me
@smoky vale is warrior deadge or what
Not bad
i am deadge
Next week sp buffs
this or
execute machine gun
where vc
u dont play vc
wait which boss
im assuming that was loomithar
3
this entire class is Mickey Mouse
What are you guys doing on PTR, gonna get us nerfed
when did this change
like 3 days after we saw the slayer tierset
thats being generous
ashen mandatory then
Shadow priest is cracked
playing this rn
looks good
no u
ppl slowly adapting towards my S2 M+ build 
whos gonna be the first big dic to put a 4.5m overall warr parse
Overall in M+?
whichever warrior plays warlock probably
We already do that
