fury

[chrome wraith]

so, your fallacy is attacking ONE class of 5

[modest condor]

it's only after they started doing the most damage that everybody suddenly acted like they had great utility

[chrome wraith]

you're actually a fucking idiot. get your anime pfp outta here

[modest condor]

oh i see how it is

[coarse nest]

I’m telling you guys utility literally does nothing to get you invited

People invite big damage

And that is it

I promise you

[peak lagoon]

utility matters if youre not top 0.1% pushing tbh, justifying to get a warrior in your key when youre doing 14-18's becomes really hard, yeah they have the dps to time it but holly fuck they litterally dont bring anything to make your life easier

[junior oyster]

final fantasy pfp attacks anime pfp. wheird

[modest condor]

no brewjj you're clearly an idiot

phunk has it all figured out

[peak lagoon]

i think its cope saying utility doesnt matter

[modest condor]

he has a mind that we cant comprehend

[chrome wraith]

Lust,Brez,PI, AMZ, Seals

All with insane damage

[coarse nest]

[chrome wraith]

no utility tho

[peak lagoon]

for title pushing you build your highest dps comp with maximum synergy and then fix its weaknesses with the healer and tank plugging the holes

but for pugging

it defo matters a lot

[lean bluff]

Silmarilen yesterday literally advocated for M+ to be segregated between uncapped and capped specs. Not trustworthy not sure who this guy is

[modest condor]

you guys are trying to argue with someone who is clearly here to just troll and throw names dont waste your effort

[chrome wraith]

it is 100% cope lol

[orchid dagger]

Big fax

[peak lagoon]

pugging 14-19 range is a different game than 0.1% title pushing

[chrome wraith]

Players that undervalue utility are still stuck in 6's

[peak lagoon]

and thats where most of the people get anoyed at queue simulator

[gilded pawn]

utility matters when you are carrying 3 alts for their weekly 10s

[peak lagoon]

and i hate warriors who apply

because theyre evil

and should swap

[chilly fractal]

Fucking hate em

[modest condor]

pugging 14-19 range is just playing the meta because those people copy what the top players do

[peak lagoon]

in raid tho im chilling

[short siren]

arguing whether big utility or big dmg is pointless when you got none 🤷‍♂️

[peak lagoon]

yeah but a lot of non meta classes i can justify bringing into a pug key at that range

[orchid dagger]

TRUE

[peak lagoon]

warrior litterally doesnt bring anything that entices me

whats blud gonna do

press rally once every 5-10 minutes

maybe a shockwave here and there

[orchid dagger]

PvE doesn't even get Battlefield Commander, where the argument for utility even begins

[peak lagoon]

id bring 2 augs before i bring a stinky fury warrior

give me back my intervene dmg reduction

[hardy shuttle]

Still convinced thunderclap should have a node to be a defibrillator of youre standing on your allys corpse and targeting them

[peak lagoon]

that shit was goated

[chrome wraith]

LOL this is it right here

[peak lagoon]

intervene DR was great in SL

give it to me

[gusty compass]

https://tenor.com/view/chat-are-we-cooked-chat-are-we-cooked-gif-3488095719416147301

[warm crag]

Copium

[modest condor]

granted, you still do 0 damage and dont get invited

[peak lagoon]

can useit on arms

[chrome wraith]

Yeah intervene changes will do literally NOTHING

90% of you wont touch it anyway

[coarse nest]

Askually 🤓, I’m not going to do any of that because I’ll be to busy piping damage

[peak lagoon]

fury is always gonna be shit atm unless its ST is so overtuned youre arcane mage

[lean bluff]

Put it this way. If you didn’t wipe your ass for 3 years (fury) and all the sudden you clean it up, other classes asses would smell comparatively worse and they might feel bad

[peak lagoon]

only class who has it worse design wise is probably rogue

and spriest jumping between best class and worst class every patch

[coarse nest]

Bro no way outlaw literally smokes

[peak lagoon]

read design wise

design wise

dinkdonk

warriors i swear to god

[coarse nest]

I read one word per crayon

It takes time

[peak lagoon]

eat more

[tranquil jetty]

how do you import WA's into PTR

[orchid dagger]

Outlaw
5/26 M+
26/26 Shuffle
24/26 Blitz

[tranquil jetty]

or even get the menu to import wa's

[coarse nest]

/wa in game

[tranquil jetty]

doesnt work

[coarse nest]

Did you install the wa addon into the ptr version of the game?

[tranquil jetty]

how do I do that?

[coarse nest]

There should be a ptr version of WAs and then you manually drag that download folder into the ptr game folders interface folder

Or atleast that’s what I think I did it’s been a while

[tranquil jetty]

where do I find those

[bitter palm]

true

me when the correct way to play is by being out of energy

and then for 20s every 1:30 i get to actually play

[coarse nest]

Outlaw needs more gcds

If that’s even possible

[tranquil jetty]

sin on ST is misery

[bitter palm]

mutilate wait for energy

peak

[smoky vale]

gm

[tranquil jetty]

sorry for asking for tech support

but man cd manager sucks eggs

[undone flower]

Dumb argument there are different seasons with different comps

[coarse nest]

Ask away bro, we yap in here 24/7 practically

[smoky vale]

today is a good day

[coarse nest]

[turbid gate]

question, why top logs on mythic gallywix use charged bolts on belt?

[chrome wraith]

i'm sure you're smart enough to extrapolate

[coarse nest]

Define extrapolate

[tranquil jetty]

but yeah, where can I find the PTR versions of WA's

i wanna test outlaw

[undone flower]

You can’t extrapolate if you don’t extrapolate by looking at leaderboard in the first place and not more wide range data

[chrome wraith]

you can barely speak. Go look at previous season leaderboards lol

[undone flower]

You just want to be meta and crush everyone else, that’s just what it tells me

[lean bluff]

Fury was literally top half (above average) on 5/8 bosses this tier. What more could you want?

[chrome wraith]

M+ balancing

idgaf about the raid

[coarse nest]

I hate to break it to you but raid is kinda the main game

[chrome wraith]

AOTC is a joke now and now that I have a daughter I CBA to push CE anymore

[undone flower]

So shut up about utility copium, it is just damage, and how we do it = if good in m+, it is broken in raid

[chrome wraith]

go back to gooning to underage anime characters

you don't have the braincells to discuss class balance

[devout totem]

raise target cap to 8
eta gg, raid performance untouched and we get more fun in m+ (:

[undone flower]

I guess you started wow this season

[lean bluff]

huh

[sullen cloak]

Would you Go Slayer or Thane on Mythic Gally?

[peak lagoon]

you never go thane

thane is very stinky

[undone flower]

The only thane fight is stix

[sullen cloak]

I like in Mythic +

[chrome wraith]

who tf is playing this season, it's dogshit

[sullen dove]

What is blud yappin bout 😭

[peak lagoon]

the only reason fury does pretty good in raid tbh, is that slayer furry does good ST dmg and most things die in one bladestorm

so its very efficient with the dmg it does

especially with al lthe raidbuffs

and giga powercreep with gear

on prog tho

bandit warrior was ass

but pretty good on sprocket, arms on mugzee and then fury on gally

[undone flower]

It was thane on prog bandit/doggo p2

[peak lagoon]

thane only if you dont have a good comp

warrior in general was ass on bandit prog

but thane could fill in the gap if you had issues with the bombas

but its also chinese memes turbo padding

solo carrying the adds

[sullen dove]

Oh more utility yap

yea also “look at the leaderboards” there is literally a group with a warrior doing rank 1 keys

They must have real good utility!!!

brain damaged

[peak lagoon]

yeah the warrior is carrying the stops

for sure

[sullen dove]

seems like a single classes utility or lack there of doesn’t matter to do the keys

[undone flower]

Farover found a bl or a brez somewhere smh

[peak lagoon]

the thing is swordish obviously if you do compettive pushing and you make your comp obviously you fix your flaws with the comp

with coördination

and gaming

[warm crag]

Cant believe mage caught a stray buff from the mystic touch buff while fury is in the state it is

[peak lagoon]

but if you speak about pugging

utility starts to matter a lot more

[tranquil jetty]

where did this come from tf

[smoky vale]

good morning swordish spongie brew

[peak lagoon]

because you dont have nicely crafted comps

you dont have communication

so it becomes a lot harder

🤓

pug warriors are a disease in your key

[undone flower]

Kicks and mass stop becomes more important yes, or you talk about group forming ?

[peak lagoon]

for pugging the more utility your class has the better

[sullen dove]

Pug anybody is a disease in your keys tbh

[peak lagoon]

obviously dont have dogshit dmg

i mean yeah

pugging and pushing with a group

[warm crag]

Gm

[peak lagoon]

is 2 different games

[tranquil jetty]

above util is brez and lust

[sullen dove]

but listen like utility is important sure but in the realm of the top keys in the world it is absolutely the last priority thought when compared to who does the most damage

And/or can live good

[undone flower]

Everyone has a brez this expac, so you can exclude that

[peak lagoon]

top keys are crafted around the best possible dps

and then fixing the holes with tanks and healers

[sullen dove]

Evoker have insane utility and like top 5 m+ damage but they are im pretty sure glass cannons

[peak lagoon]

you cant do that with pugs

[sullen dove]

And only do damage in their cds

[smoky vale]

nah evoker is unkillable

[peak lagoon]

evokers have the enhancement problem

[smoky vale]

esp with oracle

[peak lagoon]

they kill themselves by doing dps

[sullen dove]

w 1 fire breath insta aggro

[peak lagoon]

yipee

idk obviously util doesnt fix everything

but warrior has like what

2 stuns

[smoky vale]

nothing

[peak lagoon]

yipeee

[glad tinsel]

What I want is for warriors to be able to join the M+ without being rejected, not for them to become meta dealers.

[undone flower]

I think if fury has Col bump, you will be surprised how good it is

[peak lagoon]

i mean i bring augs over fury warriors atm

thats how i view warriors in keys

[undone flower]

20 sec bump is really good

[peak lagoon]

i mean knockups are infinitly better than stuns

especially with how shit shockwave stun is

2s

dr'd by its other form of cc

and fucks over other people massive aoe stuns

not a fan

[glad tinsel]

Dps Warrior is currently at the bottom of the wedge.

[lean bluff]

If youre getting invited it means another person isn't. I swear people in this discord lack empathy.

[peak lagoon]

yeah and you typing means other people arent typing

[modest condor]

empathy? sounds like a priest or paladin ability

[peak lagoon]

idk fury has 2 problems with M+

capped aoe and the few uncapped buttons it had were neutered

and obviously no utility

cant have both issues

[covert spire]

imagine the core of your argument being "someone has to suck, yeah you guys have sucked for a long time but like, have you thought about the backlash if another class has to suck worse than the one you want to play?"

[lean bluff]

this is patently false. fury aoe was buffed massively since the nerubar palace nerfs

[peak lagoon]

cant wait to have to do M+ next season

[glad tinsel]

So I'm not invited? Is this okay? According to your logic?

[undone flower]

We are on the rogue boat with your description

[peak lagoon]

thats like the lowest tier bait

ive seen

in a long while

im disgusted

[smoky vale]

what buffs has fury aoe gotten

[peak lagoon]

well their main abilities got buffed

all the base ones

[undone flower]

They fixed reverb

[modest condor]

tblast 25% buff, reap and bs 30% buff (altho that's slayer so irrelevant for m+)

[smoky vale]

too bad every other spec still does more damage anyways

🙂

[sullen dove]

Not irrelevant next season

[modest condor]

that said, they are still weaker than in season 1 relatively speaking because all our base rotation abilities got buffed by ~40%

[peak lagoon]

capping droar also kinda sucks

[undone flower]

I hope it is slayer m+ days

[peak lagoon]

that ability popped off in big pulls

[modest condor]

capping droar is irrelevant because that's only the initial hit

[sullen dove]

Dots not nerfed yea

[modest condor]

it just fell behind because of everything else being buffed

[lean bluff]

Not baiting #fury message

[smoky vale]

i mean i would rather have burst aoe than my rotation doing more damage

[peak lagoon]

i dont agree because warrior is balanced around the changes and a lot of other classes also got tuning and changes

so they changed the dps profile for fury

then tuned every class in the game for the raid

and then obviously fury falls the fuck off

it has influence on eachother

[modest condor]

i really hate the 1.5min burst profile that we had in s1

[peak lagoon]

S1 was weird asf

it felt pretty bad in raid especially with the continues nerfs

that was depressing

[lean bluff]

blizzard looks at 2 things: raid balance, and class play rate. fury is more than fine by both of these metrics. Shadow Priest and Ret paladin need another rework

[undone flower]

Tbf I got used to desync bs

[modest condor]

it doesnt work with any other spec because they're almost all either 1min, 2min or variable cooldowns

[peak lagoon]

next season you either only have 1:30 halls trinket

which sucks dick

or prism

pepelaff

[modest condor]

so either you pull around fury and it sucks for the other dps, or you pull around the other dps and it suck for fury

[frank vault]

Just give Fury the Ret treatment and give us all of our CDs every 30 seconds.

[modest condor]

also our burst was way too short

[smoky vale]

4 globals and you afk

[peak lagoon]

i think the last time fury was pretty good was SL s3 probably

[undone flower]

I busted in 1 gcd

[ember apex]

bring back 100% reck uptime

[peak lagoon]

with the meme double bladestorm into WW spam

[modest condor]

having a boomkin or an uhdk who can keep pumping 20mil+ for the whole pull vs a fury warrior who, with that tuning, would be doing 20mil for the first 10 seconds and then fall off

[peak lagoon]

fury would currently compete with arcane mage for its dps profile

and you cant call that a compettiton

atm

[sullen dove]

now it does 10 mil in 10 seconds and 5 mill the whole pull

[lean bluff]

Not really though survival hunter and demo lock did like 50x warrior damage in SL s3

[undone flower]

We don’t do funnel unfortunately

[peak lagoon]

because arcanus is also mostly capped

[lean bluff]

so much that you actually just brought multiple hunters or locks instead of a 3rd dps

[peak lagoon]

but holy fuck

[wild mural]

S3 survival hunter and demo lock were just special tho

[peak lagoon]

infinite shards go kinda crazy

on lock

[sullen dove]

rare syi spotted

[peak lagoon]

preseason condemn venthyr arms was kidna funny

[wild mural]

[peak lagoon]

in SL

[ember apex]

i miss having like permanent 100% haste in combat

[sullen dove]

and destro was the stupid spec then

[lean bluff]

It would be extremely cool for blizzard to make fury more like arcane mage: thanos damage, thanos survivability, thanos AOE, thanos single target, thanos utility

[warm crag]

Hello syi are you still woke?

[sullen dove]

Infinite rain of fire and infernal

[wild mural]

Yeah

[undone flower]

Bfa S3 was 3 BM but no, people will say it is utility that matter

[warm crag]

Good news

[smoky vale]

woke news propaganda

[wild mural]

Should I play warrior again chT

Is fury back

[smoky vale]

no

[wild mural]

(in S3)

[warm crag]

You have sent me a friend request and not messaged me curiozs

[smoky vale]

i went to sleep

and now am in call with guild

[sullen dove]

save yourself

[warm crag]

Maybe tuning not done yet

[ember apex]

what is the real-world equivalent of the helm enchant from doing Horiffic Visions?

[smoky vale]

???

[wild mural]

Like 4 guilds are trying to recruit me as boomy but idk man

[lean bluff]

who?

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cathands-cat-in-hat-cat-with-hands-silly-cat-gif-14981685377760273746

[warm crag]

Carlo i sent a ship and i got 4 mirror shards

[wild mural]

Non CE guilds I took a season off

[smoky vale]

there is no way you think im a plague

[lean bluff]

No I meant who asked?

[wild mural]

Just played rdruid

[wild mural]

Your mum

[modest condor]

that was s4, and the meta was actually fire mage, bm hunter and rogue (forgor which spec), triple bm was only used in mdi

[warm crag]

This was funny once in 2022

[sullen dove]

plague is too far

[wild mural]

Outlaw I think

[lean bluff]

I got a mageblood from mappers on day 3

[warm crag]

Askers

[undone flower]

Yeah I misremembered, I had the memory of 3 BM somewhere

[peak lagoon]

mdi was kinda wild

[frank vault]

There's realistically no way Fury gets into the M+ meta with current design though, right? If they over buff our constant AoE via Improved Whirlwind it'd be too strong for any cleave fights in raid, and they're not adding utility, so...

[undone flower]

It is my favorite season of MDI tbf, S4 bfa

[sullen dove]

Mbg ww spam bring it back

last time we were good in m+

[warm crag]

No

[modest condor]

last time we were good in m+ was df s2 before aug

[wild mural]

HELL YEAH

[peak lagoon]

fury was gonna be played in the tgp before aug came out

[sullen dove]

50 second cd 8 sec duration spear

[wild mural]

And prepatch kinda

[peak lagoon]

because it was turbo tanky

in the pirate dungeon

[frank vault]

Whirlwind just feels trash. Give Cleave plz.

[wild mural]

Arms was silly in prepatch keys

[modest condor]

prepatch isnt real content, but sure

[wild mural]

It got too silly so they made it play colossus and got put in silly jail

[peak lagoon]

df ptr arms where execute was 90% of your dps on a boss

and you topped

[sullen dove]

df prepatch arms was so peak

condemn on anduin/lords of dread

[undone flower]

Idk why but SL prepatch is the best « patch » I played so far

[wild mural]

Best patch was SoO patch no cap

[peak lagoon]

i mean SL prepatch everyone had weird shit

[modest condor]

sl prepatch was when i was competing with tanks while getting orange parses in raid

[peak lagoon]

so it was kinda funny

[frank vault]

Agreed, TBH.

[sullen cloak]

So are adds up long enough on Mythic Gally to make Thane wortwhile?

[peak lagoon]

no

[sullen dove]

no

[sullen cloak]

ok 🙂

[undone flower]

With the mix bfa things and SL reworks

[sullen dove]

jus bank a blade storm for every set you’ll be aight

[peak lagoon]

the adds would have to live for a minute+ per spawn to make thane work

[sullen dove]

don’t get 1shot by the 5 dropping down

[sullen cloak]

Is SHattering throw worth having for fight?

[peak lagoon]

because you sacrifice so much ST

[sullen dove]

wrecking

[modest condor]

no

shattering throw is never used in pve content

wrecking throw can be used tho

[sullen dove]

Good on shield and nice for extra dmg when you have to run away

[sullen cloak]

sorry thats what i meant

[lean bluff]

once shadowlands classic rolls around it will be pretty fun to play around with old MBG and signet

[warm crag]

Its a gain over a defensive point but it dont really matter

[wild mural]

Okay so fury isn't back next season

I sleepge

[peak lagoon]

i enjoyed signet but it couldve definitly been improved

[warm crag]

🪝

[sullen cloak]

ok guys thank you

[undone flower]

You can’t be back somewhere you’ve never been

[wild mural]

Was just looking through old photos of when I played fury and kinda nostalgia

[peak lagoon]

they should bring back signet but make it so if there are 3 or more targets in 8y

you bladestorm

[sullen dove]

It is in raid

[peak lagoon]

otherwise avatar

[wild mural]

Hmm interesting

[peak lagoon]

i mean warrior has been good in raids for a long time except armidrasil because they fucked over plate dps

[wild mural]

But only if slayer is viable in keys

[lean bluff]

lets just be grateful that Fury isn't doing enough aoe damage to rip threat very often anymore

[wild mural]

I literally swapped my war to nelf cause of that issue

On both arms and fuey

[undone flower]

Fury is really good right now, you just have 1 AoE spread fight masking it off

[ember apex]

HOLY F

[peak lagoon]

besides armidrasil warrior has been good since like what

sanctum of domination

for raid

[wild mural]

Warrior was pretty good in amir tho right

[peak lagoon]

CN was a disaster at the start

all plate dps sucked

untill lego

[wild mural]

Only fight I remember having issues on was council

[peak lagoon]

very stinky

[wild mural]

But I got orange stick super early

[ember apex]

warrior was great weeks 1 and 2 of Nerubar Palace before 11 (or 13) consecutive nerfs

[warm crag]

Noob

[wild mural]

Like week 2 or 3

[lean bluff]

Which have been since reverted several times over

[wild mural]

Why have you got beef with me I love you

[ember apex]

weeks 1 and 2 of nerubar, warriors had a niche of burst aoe that was good in multiple fights

no it hasnt been reverted, we dont have burst like that

[wild mural]

Fury burst right at the start of S1 was mental

[peak lagoon]

if you could play OF without sacrificing major ST dps

i think everyone would be playing it

but alas

[ember apex]

i personally dont like odyns fury

[undone flower]

Bc they changed TT

[warm crag]

Noob (lovingly)

[wild mural]

[peak lagoon]

i mean fury burst was kinda silly at the start

[ember apex]

that was our niche

u could argue moonkin spread cleave is kinda silly

doesnt matter, that's their niche

[undone flower]

But the worst ST I ever saw

[peak lagoon]

yeah but mankin deletes

all their ST

to press starfall

we didnt sacrifice a single bit of ST

to do that

[ember apex]

they took away our niche and have us nothing

[undone flower]

Like it is the most thing depressing, be below Aug on sikran

[wild mural]

I stopped playing fury after target cap change

[peak lagoon]

we still have our niche but arcane mage exists

[wild mural]

[peak lagoon]

which just does it better + funnel

for keys

[modest condor]

we didnt do st damage in the first place tho

[rigid stirrup]

I guess it's another arms season

[peak lagoon]

ST was agressivly mid ye

[wild mural]

But I feel like that's always been the case for fury - we have a niche that we do alright at but there's someone that does it better

[peak lagoon]

but not boomkin lvls of bad

[ember apex]

they should give warr 100% reck uptime back, give us flat line damage and increase our haste in combat to 100%

[modest condor]

it doesnt matter that you dont give up st to do burst aoe if you're the worst st spec in the game anyway

[peak lagoon]

i dont think fury was bottoming ST

lemme check

[undone flower]

Below Aug

On sikran

You fight with some tanks in p1 ansurek

[ember apex]

nerubar had rashnan, queen, silken, broodtwister, etc... that ALL utilized furys burst very well

and then they took it away w/ 11 consecutive nerfs

[wild mural]

Rashanan was like the only fun fight as fury imo

[undone flower]

Fun form of padding yep

[wild mural]

Brood was annoying cause even if I held CDs for a second or two the tanks still couldn't hold aggro

Ended just going arms

[ember apex]

btw idk if u guys remember but we were promised a rework after 10.0.7 (late vault of the incarnates in DF) and we STILL havent been reworked

[warm crag]

Noob tanks

[wild mural]

[undone flower]

My experience on ovinax made it one of my favorite boss of the tier

[winter shoal]

That boss was omega shit

[indigo arch]

Don't worry, surely blizzard will actually revamp fury and/or buff it and fix the target cap issues early into s3!

[undone flower]

(All the adds were for me)

[indigo arch]

Just like they fixed it in s2!

5 entire % dps

[ember apex]

ovinax was dope, queen was dope, even gally is good

[wild mural]

[ember apex]

we have bladestorm for every add set in p1

[winter shoal]

extremely common carlo L

[ember apex]

they needed more adds in p3 tho

[peak lagoon]

yeah boss dmg wasnt too hot even in week 1-2 of neruberar

for fury

[undone flower]

I prefer ovinax over kyvesa ngl

[winter shoal]

based but also wrong

[rigid stirrup]

Don't talk positive or else pitch forks come out

[ember apex]

mistress kyveza was such a garbage meme fight

[tepid lily]

bladestorm moment

let's go

[wild mural]

I quit on Kyveza

[warm crag]

Marker shitshow vs cool dance

[peak lagoon]

if ovinax didnt have performance issues and made you restart your game every hour

[wild mural]

After 1 raid night

[tepid lily]

725% it's till barely even a 2% overall damage, good job blizzard

[peak lagoon]

itd probably be a bit better remembered

[tepid lily]

woo hooooooooo

[ember apex]

my guild made me switch to ret paladin for nerburar after we did 4/8 b/c of the fury nerfs

[warm crag]

???

[peak lagoon]

memory leak was pretty rough on broodtwister

[undone flower]

Standing still between 2 images remove 1000 fun points

[warm crag]

First i heard of it

[rigid stirrup]

That sounds like a personal problem.

[wild mural]

I don't think I had any issues with brood

[tepid lily]

gotta reset game every broodtwister wipe

[peak lagoon]

idk 2-3 hours into ovinax and chill and your raidmembers fps disapearing on add spawns

was ruff

[undone flower]

[peak lagoon]

on reclears obviously you just 1-2 tap that evil monster

and never notice it

apparently queen also had some shit going on but i wasnt in on prog for that boss

[undone flower]

I had no issue on ovinax except the night servers got ddos

[peak lagoon]

idk performance was rough for a lot of people that tier if you went multiple hours into one boss

[winter shoal]

Guys why are we worrying about nerubar palace fights when we need to be uniting against the real enemy

[warm crag]

[peak lagoon]

love snapshots with no context

[undone flower]

The big issue this expac for me was bandit before I took the WA

[peak lagoon]

bandit is just a visual clusterfuck

a blizzard special

[peak lagoon]

love red on red

bro is playing fury in keys

[tepid lily]

can we go back to patch 7.2.0

[peak lagoon]

self harm

[winter shoal]

Me when mugzee mines brown on brown inside consecrate

[peak lagoon]

i havent been hit by a single mugzee mine spawn

[undone flower]

Mugzee mines are the worst visual this raid

[peak lagoon]

gaming

[smoky vale]

bigbowwl any new wowa projcets

[winter shoal]

Neither have I but it's still shit

[peak lagoon]

if you want to troll your raid

press darkness on mine spawn

in the clump

[winter shoal]

Depends on how much things change going into next patch

[smoky vale]

what about the thing that says to fix uptime

[peak lagoon]

what do you mean with fix uptime

[winter shoal]

This is a colossal fix actually

[undone flower]

It made me remember ovinax when it drinks and you have every raid cd in melee and you have to dodge swirlies

[wild mural]

That was funny

[peak lagoon]

yeah but you just move to a spot that doesnt have a swirly tho

just assume there is poop in the visual aids

[winter shoal]

The new uptime module requires everything to be inside an entirely different component structure from what either fury or arms is currently, so that'd basically mean rewriting the entirety of both specs

[undone flower]

We would have less deaths if you didn’t barrier on this timing, I thought to myself

[warm crag]

Wtf they just nerfed fury again just now?

[peak lagoon]

theyre inside your walls

[winter shoal]

if by just now you mean yesterday then yeah

[warm crag]

Nah like 32s ago

[clever path]

I made a promise to my M+ group that I would be rerolling spec for next tier, too many tiers of them being gaslighted into Fury being good, the moment has come, no one is coming to save fury on M+

[peak lagoon]

blud is an expansion or two late

[undone flower]

I think Blizz took thane ST as our benchmark

[clever path]

Yeah my time has come, crazy I made to 3580 on a mix of Fury and Prot

I’ll embrace the Flavor of the Month live style

[peak lagoon]

doesnt even have to be flavour

just anything but

[clever path]

Don’t say it

It hurts

[undone flower]

Yeah just anything but fury

[clever path]

Agghhhhhhhh

[peak lagoon]

tbf

i think WW monk is kinda in the same boat for M+

being a silly target capped class

[tender forge]

Oh no is fury not looking good next patch

[peak lagoon]

fury is looking the same for next patch as the last couple patches

looking good for raid

not so good for m+

same old same old

[tender forge]

Nothing new eh , we will endure

[undone flower]

You guys think it is worst than BM pre-11.0.5 ?

[clever path]

Funny enough that’s my alt a WW , it’s just that I’m a diff breed at this point

[lean bluff]

But it’s 100% okay guys. There’s a decent chance fury will get a rework before 14.0 drops.

[clever path]

I think it’s cuz it’s a brown spec

[frank dawn]

windwalker is a special kind of weird in that both Conduit of the Celestials and Strike of the Windlord have trinket style split damage scaling instead of any kind of square root scaling lol

[clever path]

There is something about the color it seems

[undone flower]

Tbf it is not the color, we have prot

[lean bluff]

Blizzard just has a small team and very limited resources and fury is popular and performs well in raid

Simple as

[undone flower]

Ngl, I predict a drought of warriors in raid / like rogues

[clever path]

Wait till you see the actual patch notes for season 3, arms will be the only warr you will bring to the phys comp

[frank dawn]

the raid just doesn't matter enough to most of the playerbase imo. People will play the specs that are also good in M+ to get raid gear

[peak lagoon]

arms has a problem too tho

that its a squishy fuck compared to most melee classes

and IP is ass

so you cant even correct it with hands

[coarse nest]

Gotta triple stack ip before every damage event

Imagine

[clever path]

So is hunter and ? Still 0 dmg it’s worse than being squishy

[undone flower]

wdym ? I play mostly prot in m+, all tanks are really well tuned currently

[peak lagoon]

hunter

and squishy

in the same sentence

thats like 3 expansions old news

[coarse nest]

True

Hunter is actually a tank

They gained a lot of living capability

[lean bluff]

Ik this is the fury chat, but removing IP from anger management and tactician procs was a mistake.

[peak lagoon]

the days of rezz roger is over

i mean even with that @lean bluff its not like arms is swinging in rage like it was previously

it still hasa lot of rage

[undone flower]

Now the squishy title is sham or Druid no ?

[peak lagoon]

but having to press IP would actually hurt current arms

sham is weird

they have really strong defensives

but they can misplay them hard

so with an external and good communication they become livelords

[coarse nest]

Honestly I enjoyed the little skill expression from adding ip uses to your cs window for the biggest ToM but I agree with it being removed because you couldn’t ever really use it for its purpose (defensive) because you wanted optimal dps

[peak lagoon]

i mean

it did make you more tanky

but having high uptime on IP is a bit silly

design wise

[coarse nest]

That’s fair it was always being spammed

[undone flower]

Im gonna open my vault, pray for me

[coarse nest]

I guess in some sense you could view it as if it were functioning like FbV

Because you just cast it so often it was basically passive

[dawn sky]

Is it worth siming for the culminating blasphemite effect

[clever path]

Right now it’s very good, but for season 3 they remove spell block, which was weird to use if you didn’t know how to, but was strong, and now they instead give us a 8% chance to DR 50% magic dmg, which is like the temu version of a DR for magical dmg, and it’s only being hyped on PTR cuz it heals like a blood dk, which I strongly believe it’s not intended and will get tuned down, which will make it arguably weaker than it is right now, and possibly get overtaken which is already this season by BM monk

[coarse nest]

I do but but realistically you can use speed and be just fine lol

[undone flower]

fuck me, i thougth it was gally shield

[dawn sky]

i mean if i should use gems to maximize the effect or just go with whatever gems sims the best stats

[undone flower]

it is overtaken this season bc you have arms who gives the buff already

in the phys comp

but the monk raid buff situation will surely favor brew over prot (who knows they are 3 monk specs)

[warm crag]

U can pretty safely assume that clicking the button that maximizes the effect is a dps Inc but not enough of one to care abt

Just slot in speed and move faster maybe sometimes

[peak lagoon]

brew prot for raid so you can bench all stinky warriors

[undone flower]

nop, you can't replace prot pal and bdk in raids

[coarse nest]

I didn’t run a “use all colors” gem sim until I had every best in slot item

[peak lagoon]

bdk is very replacable

but prot pal is kinda the goat of tanks

for a while now

[modest condor]

the monk buff thing makes absolutely no sense

[peak lagoon]

for raid

[undone flower]

not if the fight wants a mass grip

[peak lagoon]

the monk buff makes sense

[modest condor]

they're just making physical specs even worse in m+ if you dont bring a monk

[undone flower]

or grips

[peak lagoon]

its the worst raid buff

[orchid dagger]

What mass grip lmao

[modest condor]

you know they're just gonna tune around specs having the buff tho, so instead of being 5% worse without the buff you'll now be 8% worse

[orchid dagger]

Raid only tuning, yay

[undone flower]

raiding without a monk buff felt bad already (we did 1 sprocket reclear without it, and a riot happened)

[peak lagoon]

i mean by that logic you should remove all raidbuffs, but then you get into the teritory that all this balancing and specs being close to eachother is being held up by a thin thread that is the raidbuffs

[olive wraith]

lol some YouTuber claimed slayer fury was the common key spec 🤣

[peak lagoon]

the moment raidbuffs are gone there is no reason to not do degen class stacking in raid

raaah i love raidbuffs

[undone flower]

with context, i can agree with that statement

[dawn sky]

yeah wowhead does say that the increase is very small. Will sim without using max colors and see what it says

[peak lagoon]

so for that reason monk is getting buffed because it was unironically very easy to drop monk (if mistweaver wasnt giga cracked and WW was actually pretty good for prog)

[undone flower]

in low keys you don't play thane obviously

[peak lagoon]

im ready for my tripple /quad stack of mistweavers in raid tho

next season

funny class

[olive wraith]

Thane had better sustained aoe all season 2

[sullen dove]

ur rly never dropping monk regardless

[olive wraith]

Slayer fury only became an option in the second half, and it still did worse aoe

[undone flower]

in low keys, the trashs doesn't sustain being alive

so sustain dmg is bad in low keys

[olive wraith]

You still didn’t play slayer early

[peak lagoon]

yeah but if youre runnign like 1 hunter and 1 warrior in some theoretical comp which isnt too far out what has happend some times

[dawn sky]

we finally got bladestorm back and its worse sadge

[peak lagoon]

and mistweavers werent turbo cracked

itd be worth dropping monk

cant really say that about any other raidbuff

[undone flower]

wdym didn't ? i'm talking right now, if you do 10s or below

[orchid dagger]

Root break only

[peak lagoon]

dont talk shit about bladestorm

love bladestorm

they should give fury signet arms hasted bladestorm tho

4 seconds hasted bladestorm

[lean bluff]

oh nooo the most mobile class in the game doesn't have the #1 dps and top utility

[olive wraith]

I’m talking over the course of the season. If you wanna talk sub 10s that’s not really a good indication of overall popularity

[lean bluff]

fury can't be the best at literally everything

[orchid dagger]

Little bro has never played DH

And it shows

[modest condor]

bfa dh

[undone flower]

it is a good indication of "common", thats why i said depending on context, i can agree slayer is the most common hero

since casuals are 90% of ppl

[olive wraith]

I just think it’s funny stumbling across these vids and having the YouTuber not know what they’re talking about

[peak lagoon]

bfa dh (proc master 3000)

[dawn sky]

how dare a spec have little utilty and be hardcapped grrr

[lean bluff]

Fury was literally above average on 5/8 mythic raid bosses, asking for more is just whining at this point because you want to be on top of the meters. it's laughable

[plush maple]

New bladestorm is the best the fuck, do you want old bladestorm felt like you’re stuck spinning to do alright AoE while now you can increase damage tick by 3 while making duration shorter

[peak lagoon]

hasted SL signet bladestorm

was the goat

4 seconds of 100% hasted bladestorm

ripping the shit out of mobs

[olive wraith]

Casuals are doing up to 12s this season. Depends how casual you mean

[modest condor]

why stop at 100%

double necrolord buff + lust first boss plaguefall

350% haste 4 second bladestorm

[peak lagoon]

bladestorm proc during the first murloc pull in tazavesh gambit

with lust

ughh

[modest condor]

i think you could get like 15 ticks of bladestorm or something

[dawn sky]

I want bladestorm into spamming whirlwind with the Merciless Bonegrinder conduit again. Fun times

[peak lagoon]

i dont like mbg that much

but i do miss double bladestorm

in aoe

especially the 4 second one

[dawn sky]

someone will say "you have storm of steel duh"

[coarse nest]

People complained about spinning so much

But I actually enjoyed that too

[peak lagoon]

i mean mbg was degenerate

16 seconds of ww pressing

[modest condor]

peak

[coarse nest]

“Why didn’t you kick”
“Sorry I was spinning”

[dawn sky]

dps numbers go brrrrr

[peak lagoon]

i want double bladestorm back

right now

and make both base and new bladestorm 4 seconds

but hasted

deal

[coarse nest]

Have 2 charges of Bladestorm

That sounds sick

[sullen dove]

Rogue and decent amount of other dmg still phys

[coarse nest]

Mastery works like legion cs

[peak lagoon]

yeah but unless its outlaw

[sullen dove]

like warlock pets some dk shit

[coarse nest]

Can reset bs charge

[peak lagoon]

its all pretty mixed

[coarse nest]

Just always spinning

[peak lagoon]

so its very very minor

i guess even hunter is pretty mixed right now

with its funny hero talent

[coarse nest]

Doesn’t MM do physical?

[peak lagoon]

shadow

on killshot

[coarse nest]

Oh right

And the moon damage from the other one

[peak lagoon]

barely reaches 50% phys if even

probably around 50ish

[sullen dove]

isn’t that half physical

by the color of the bar

Idk how combined dmg types count for buffs like that

[charred estuary]

Pretty sure that's shadow and physical

[sullen dove]

yea

[charred estuary]

Bleak arrows is pure shadow you can see it down there

Same as with enhancement that stuff is all mixed with physical

[sullen dove]

idk how black arrows is affected by the dmg taken debuffs

do both increase, do neither?

Neither sounds weird

[charred estuary]

It's both

Like our thunderblast is both buffed by DH and monk

[south kayak]

I thought Black Arrow was entirely shadow, TIL

[charred estuary]

I did too tbh

[south kayak]

Is it like 50/50 Shadow/physical?

So monk buff would buff the physical portion only?

[sullen dove]

Idk if any of those are 50/50

[south kayak]

How does that work?

[elder parcel]

WW monk moment

[sullen dove]

It’s just like a combined damage type

Like stormstrike

[south kayak]

Yeah so that means the entire hit gets buffed by 8% no?

[sullen dove]

idk maybe

[south kayak]

Wouldn't it also mean that dh buffs them too?

I don't know how this shit works lol

[sullen dove]

But then is another 3% added on that from dh

[south kayak]

it's cooked

[sullen dove]

I would have to imagine similar to like damage resistance to schools in classic or something it just picks one

That presumably is the strongest buff

But idk

[south kayak]

I managed to hit 5m on a single target dummy on my frost dk on ptr

5m dps

It went down to 3m but it was 5 for a bit

[sullen dove]

I don’t know enough about evoker to judge patch notes but surely it will remain powerful damage

Whether sc or fs

Honestly scalecommander sounds sick next patch

5-7 lasers

[south kayak]

I don't know really

Evoker still the issue of damage outside of burst being dogshit

it's like a better version of S1 fury

bigger burst and mid damage outside

[sullen dove]

I mean flameshaper cd is insane compared to sc cds

[olive wraith]

They also get worse as the mobs get lower right

[south kayak]

The difference between FS and SC burst is crazy

it'sl ike 15m dps on FS

on burst opener

it goes down fast though lol

[south kayak]

We don't really stack much mastery

doesn't matter

[peak lagoon]

if you think dragons are silly right now

wait till next patch

[south kayak]

I don't know if I'm still gonna play dragon

the goofy animations and lack of transmogs is a huge turn off

[sullen dove]

I mean that’s why u spend an hour making a sick dragon

mine is wikid

[south kayak]

still not as sick as transmogs

idk why but my burst on opener is way worse on ptr than it is live

for FS

[peak lagoon]

mine is epic

and red

which means its fast

[sullen dove]

Mine is black and blue

which means 💪

[south kayak]

is the FS rotation the same on PTR as live?

I do the same rotation and the burst is way worse

[peak lagoon]

idk i just know the set is silly

havent played it myself on ptr

[south kayak]

well, the s1 set was also pretty strong

[peak lagoon]

caught

[south kayak]

FDK is very crazy on ptr

Idk why they buffed them so much

something's cooked

[little mortar]

Any thought on buffed Thane?

Still sucks ?

[chilly fractal]

Step 1. Get a job at Blizzard
Step 2. ????
Step 3. Giga buff Fury and keep changing the numbers

[tepid cedar]

I had a dream that I woke up and fury still sucked. Guess I’m a prophet cause we still do suck

Premonitions go hard

[orchid dagger]

[tepid cedar]

Crazy we get nerfs before even getting looked at. In m+ we wil still be so ass

[modest condor]

if something is both magic and physical it picks the strongest of the 2 debuffs that are active right now

[tepid cedar]

And nerfing 2p kinda sucks ass even though it’s minor

[modest condor]

so if there is chaos brand it gets buffedby 3%, if there's mystic touch it gets buffed by 8%, if there's both it gets buffed by 8%

[edgy widget]

Nerfing something that’s a buff and still remains a buff is a weird take

[peak lagoon]

the mistweaver playbook

mistweaver dev is in my walls

[tepid cedar]

Do you think we were gona be that far ahead of other specs?

[peak lagoon]

slayer set is really really good

for both fury and arms

[edgy widget]

Idk or care, I’m just saying that it’s still a net buff

And a pretty sizable one

[tepid cedar]

Are 4p stacks procced on multiple targets?

[olive wraith]

Execute nerf is more damaging to arms right?

[edgy widget]

There are numbers in #updates-midnight

The point is you’re still getting a nearly 20% buff, so calling that a nerf is weirdage

[peak lagoon]

it might make it so fully stacked jug doesnt hit as hard as a 2OP 2EP MS anymore

[olive wraith]

I’m more sad about the thane buffs

[peak lagoon]

which was pretty degen

[wind torrent]

Tuning isnt finished, so why care

[peak lagoon]

patch is like 3 weeks away sir

ish

[plush zephyr]

You’re gonna play fury anyway why you asking

[peak lagoon]

there is not a lot of tuning patches left

[smoky vale]

@gleaming siren @eternal sundial @clever path

[tepid cedar]

Just increase thane to 8 targets so we can help kills adds faster

[plush zephyr]

? There is

[gleaming siren]

You need to stop listening to that

Two more weeks of tuning probably

[warm crag]

you must collect more divine orbs

[tepid cedar]

Yep, however for once if arms is better I will play some arms.

[gleaming siren]

into release candidate

[smoky vale]

why

it empowers me

makes the bad thoughts go away

[plush zephyr]

Hellllll yeah boy come over

[tepid cedar]

Haha

[wary fjord]

dont forget the tuning to come after the first 2 weeks

[olive wraith]

Aka buff revert period (for fury heroic raid)

[wary fjord]

the tuning that murdered us season 1

yes

[gleaming siren]

Season is basically halfway over then

[smoky vale]

@clever path yuo need to be reported

[clever path]

wjhy

my name is gio57 and i type slurs at 12:30 PM (GMT-4) GG

[tepid cedar]

I just wanna know who’s dick warlocks be sucking

[warm crag]

not all of us are 8 day raiders schmidi can you stop being so elitist

[tepid cedar]

Them fucks are usually top 99% the time somehow lol

[smoky vale]

pauck just slurred me

@gleaming siren help

[clever path]

top 99%

[fast mural]

bro if the tier nerf makes us pess execute only at 3 stacks we will have played the same exact rotation for an entire expac

[wary fjord]

yes

[smoky vale]

he did it again

[clever path]

0 proof

[undone flower]

The arms project is lvl 49 btw

[fast mural]

warlocks got replaced by mages after SL

[sullen dove]

In what

All 3 warlock specs own this raid

In some fashion or another

[undone flower]

When they obliterated malefic rapture and destro lost the S3 set ? I think he talk about m+

[fast mural]

ok but how much of that is bandit ?

also yes mainly talking about m+

[undone flower]

There is cauldron too

But I’m not against spread AoE fight tbf

[young swan]

rik

stix

mugzee

[fast mural]

i was about to say does it even matter if a spec is good on an early boss but then i remembered rashanaan

[young swan]

even if rik doesnt matter, stix and mugzee absolutely do

[fast mural]

bandit to gally 100%

maybe even sprocket

[undone flower]

Even if they don’t matter, their damage profile don’t

[fast mural]

idk about stix its kinda of a meme

[young swan]

after 5 million nerfs sure

[warm crag]

stix was fucking hard ye

[fast mural]

had been a meme since ptr

at least imo

[young swan]

so u just dont play the game

[sullen dove]

Bro didn’t watch rwf take 100 pulls to kill the 4th boss of the raid

when rashanan died in 1

[undone flower]

But you want to include sprocket but not bandit bc AoE spread, while sprocket is heavy anti casters

[fast mural]

that rashanan comment was because of dmg profile cause fury was deleting the adds

[fast mural]

i did include bandit

[undone flower]

#fury message

[fast mural]

ok maybe i havnt made it clear what i mean
i just think early bosses are gonna get killed even with a non optimized dmg profile throughout the raid rather early
obviously stix was different before nerfs i called it a meme cause of the ball mechanic

[restive peak]

No one who progged real stix thinks it was a meme

[fast mural]

its not a meme cause it was easy

jesus

[undone flower]

every boss can die with non optimzed dmg profile after a month

[restive peak]

The fight overall was difficult, the ball was 1/6th maybe of the difficulty

The healing checks, the movement, overall damage etc

[fast mural]

and yet you had people stacking shadowpriests and warlocks on bandit after a month

[restive peak]

Well yeah because people who are pushing for HOF care as much about efficiency as RWF guilds

[fast mural]

meme =/= easy for me

[undone flower]

yes bc the dmg profile still exist

[restive peak]

It also died to many non optimized comps

[fast mural]

i never said stix was easy its a gimmick fight and i think its sucks

[restive peak]

Meme = joke/easy

The fight definitely sucks

It sucked to prog and it’s still meh even when it just falls over now

[peak lagoon]

stix aka litterall hitler

unironically

pre nerf stix

was a creature of hell and doom

why did that boss have so MUCH FUCKING HEALTH

[restive peak]

Progging stix is what made me hate this tier

[peak lagoon]

good thing i was benched since we only played 1 warrior

but that boss had way too much health for a 4th boss

why couldnt they just have murdered stix

and left sprocket alone

atleast sprocket was fun

[earnest canyon]

it's ironic the worst boss in that raid was all about garbage

[peak lagoon]

didnt know bandit had garbage

[young swan]

the entire raid was kind of a stinker

[peak lagoon]

idk this raid was weird

it had pretty cool fights

and some real stinkers

sprocket was kinda cool

rik reverb was ok

unironically gally was really cool

untill he falls asleep

and does nothing

idk who gave him sleeping pills

[plush zephyr]

Rolling into a trash ball and having to have WAs to tell you what not to hit and shit is peak raiding dogshit

[orchid dagger]

Imagine raiding in the year of our lord 2025

[fast mural]

sounds alot like sprocket

[orchid dagger]

You hate to see it

[fast mural]

except the trash

[peak lagoon]

i ignored the WA but melee was hardassigned left of the boss "caught" emoji

roll over dweeb recycling and then exploding big bomba

what a boss

[edgy widget]

Yeah I never bothered with the WA on stix

wasn't really necessary if you knew what shit looked like, and there are only four things

• big trash piles
• small trash piles
• big stationary bombs
• small bombshell mobs

well, five if you include the gunners

[meager hound]

Six if you include all of your fellow raiders.

[edgy widget]

if you need a WA to tell what other players look like, I think you've got bigger problems than raid design

also I'm pretty sure the WA didn't label them anyway

[meager hound]

That's what made it so hard to consistently hit them on every trash phase.

[peak lagoon]

you aim for the other players

especially boomkins and healers

[meager hound]

Hey, if I'm not climbing the meters, they shouldn't be either.

It's only fair.

[edgy widget]

na the real trick is to accidentally dump your ball into stix as soon as it spawns

[dusky moon]

I'm back. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WwbpkS28CeZ7_lqqWLdumjZV7_kwJeGEUQ2O4dWenOc/

Everything is done except for the image, enjoy

[meager hound]

You were gone?

[dusky moon]

I will update once we get reputation grind information

😦

Rude

[meager hound]

Sorry, I saw an opportunity and had to take it. I'm gonna spend some time reading your guide now. Thanks for that ❤️

[midnight sierra]

Is fury really that doomed next patch? Or just people recycling the same old YouTube slop rhetoric

[humble plover]

We're always doomed brother. Status quo

[dense elbow]

As doomed as it is this season. So, still playable and functional for most things, but you will be... less than an optimal pick (for M+)

[humble plover]

😲

[remote bobcat]

dont listen to generic yt videos of anyone that talks in a loud voice

they generally dont know jackshit

[fast mural]

every spec is doomed all the time

coming from a spec main so you can trust me

[midnight sierra]

Understood. I will play fury regardless

[edgy widget]

don't listen to @dense elbow either, just a good rule of life

[humble plover]

Oof

[midnight sierra]

Damn

[dense elbow]

GenericYT Video:
"Fury warrior is really bad, it is undertuned." (I nod) "Fury Warrior CDs are superweak!" (wouldnt go that far) "Fury warrior is completely unplayable, not enought utility!" (wait... stop) "FURY WARRIOR IS OUTDATED, AND PLAYS LIKE SHIT!!!" (Stop, stop, please!)

[midnight sierra]

While they were typing. Ruthless

[edgy widget]

he's always typing

literally always

[midnight sierra]

🤣

[humble plover]

[edgy widget]

[dense elbow]

Sad part, I dont know if Archi is joking or genuinly try to be hurtful at this point

[peak lagoon]

probably both

[humble plover]

I assume both

[dense elbow]

Perhaps

[coarse nest]

Archi hates all of us

So probably hurtful

[edgy widget]

depends, on how true you think it is

[dense elbow]

Why ya gotta ask, when you start to wonder - how far and deep does the comment go

[static loom]

Archi is always 100% serious

[sullen dove]

Cds are super weak

[static loom]

Don't let him tell you otherwise!

[sullen dove]

Other stuff is real shit

[coarse nest]

Wild Sarri appears!

[humble plover]

Guys I just want you to know if I have to play something else next tier I still love you all

[static loom]

I'm always lurking

[peak lagoon]

give me back my aberrus 90% reck uptime 3% variance fury

ty

raaa i love 10-20% variance on every spec in raid

[coarse nest]

I love when jug stacks drop at 35.1% hp!

[undone flower]

"they nerfed the hero talents no one plays in m+"

[flat river]

Guys

Nvm

[humble plover]

Same

[sullen dove]

W

[coarse nest]

Nvm

Guys

[undone flower]

the new tree on ptr is crazy

[dense elbow]

#arms

https://tenor.com/view/zombielandsaga-sakura-minamoto-xd-gif-627758404327754450

[undone flower]

#reformedhappy #armsacceptance

[dense elbow]

#spectraitor

[undone flower]

i'm a prot who plays fury in raid, now i'm a spec traitor

[tepid cedar]

@dense elbow archi loves hugs and to be whispered sweet nothings in his ear.

[undone flower]

#fury message
don't forget RB is S in my tierlist Funky

[dusky moon]

Oops found two small mistakes

[edgy widget]

missing some stuff there, where SkS?!

[humble plover]

Me when I chose Fury warrior to main

[hardy shuttle]

What was the 2nd mistake

[south kayak]

imagine maining warrior

[fickle cedar]

no class hits like warrior (i mean spiritually)

[humble plover]

1 warrior
2 fury

[south kayak]

No class hits like warrior because warriors don't hit as much as the other classes

[humble plover]

Most classes have weapons and abilities we have pool noodles

[hardy shuttle]

I think id be able to hit more than 5 targets with a pool noodle

[humble plover]

Real

[undone flower]

Next patch only lvl 50-60 warrior will be meta

[edgy widget]

timewalking meta

[marble pilot]

Goated at level 11 timewalking

[flat river]

can someone help me

what are the 3 liquid WA for raid

i have first 2