fury

[sullen tendon]

crystalline blades is the best version of it

its passive and looks cool and you dont have to worry about when it goes off

[slim coral]

We just need our CDs buffed tbh

[sullen tendon]

remove ravager and make avatar interact with our abilities

[slim coral]

Not sure why they’re ok with our cds having no impact

Idk another class like that, I guess the closest is outlaw

[edgy widget]

A) what does that have to do with the animation?
B) in what world is Ravager useless?

[sullen tendon]

like the skill itself does nothing impactful we jsut take it for rage gen and unhinged bt

[edgy widget]

so... you take it for the damage

just like Colossus Smash?

[sullen tendon]

no

you take it for other skills damage

[sinful spoke]

what is bro yapping about

[edgy widget]

you take Colossus Smash for other skills damage too

it does practically nothing on its own

[slim coral]

Well right now we take ravager cause thane is forced right?

[limber oar]

l0l

[sullen tendon]

also ravager itself is fucked

[edgy widget]

Gonna give you a lil life pro tip here

• Don't conflate subjects in a conversation like this, trying to deflect a conversation about animations with one about how strong (or not) a particular ability is completely invalidates any kind of argument you might have tried to make and makes it less likely people are going to take any further input seriously

yes, heroic throw and sidearm might be minor abilities, but that has literally nothing to do with their animations - the best ability can have a bland one and the worst ability can have a great one - they have nothing to do with one another

[sullen tendon]

its move speed is awful

[slim coral]

And slayer can’t take ravager

Although I wish slayer could

[sullen tendon]

im playinf darktide one minute

[slim coral]

All warrior animations need updating imo

Except Thunder blast

[edgy widget]

now, you could argue that a major cooldown maybe should have a more ornate animation, something like Frostwyrm's Fury for example comes to mind, but that's more about frequency than specifically how strong it is

• a giant ass dragon flying across your screen once every minute or two is very different from a giant ass dragon flying across your screen every 15s

[slim coral]

Thunder blast is the one ability where I feel like I get feedback

Which is ironic cause it sucks by itself

[edgy widget]

Thunder Blast doesn't suck at all, what?

[slim coral]

We don’t use it on st at all

[olive wraith]

Don’t we?

[edgy widget]

uhh... if you're playing wrong maybe

otherwise, you absolutely do

you don't really play Thane on ST all that much, but you definitely use TBlast - it's even one of the higher priority buttons

[turbid bay]

If we didnt use thane in st that would be weird

[slim coral]

We don’t use thane on st

[turbid bay]

In dungeons you have no choice

And stix and oab

Thane is used there

[edgy widget]

You don't play Thane in pure ST no, yet you do play Thane in content which includes ST situations

[turbid bay]

Oab less so

[slim coral]

Guess I should reword what I mean

[olive wraith]

Stix isn’t st

[sullen tendon]

the animations themselves arent good either. its litearlly just a random axe appearence spinning and you sidearm is an ability you never see go off because theres so much stuff going on. Ravager looks nice in the same way old abilities looked nice but the mechanics behind the ability itself which tie into its appearence is outdated

[edgy widget]

and when you're in a ST situation, you 100% press Thunder Blast

[turbid bay]

Man i hope they buff the thane tier set i really like it on prot and fury

[slim coral]

What I’m trying to say is that Thunder blast had probably the best feedback for fury and it’s not a major cd

[edgy widget]

feels like you completely misinterpreted what was said, because I never quantified how "nice" the animations were; what I said was that I liked the theme

[slim coral]

Sorry for bad wording

[sullen tendon]

the theme they are going for is nice but the execution is awful.

Like everything warrior

[edgy widget]

that's subjective

but not really the subject of conversation either

[sullen tendon]

"oh yea you guys are thunder warriors now" "no we arent giving you anything thunder related past an updated thunderclap animation"

[slim coral]

If they made our CDs feel as impactful as thunder blast does warrior would own

[olive wraith]

I love the thane theme. Of course people gonna hate it. It’s subjective

[turbid bay]

Speaking of animations thunderous roar feels so outta place thematically

[edgy widget]

Thunder Clap, Thunder Blast, Lightning Strikes, Ground Current, Heroic Leap, even Avatar gets a little static electricity around the hands... Thane has a lot of thunder & lightning related animations

[slim coral]

The funny part is that there is no thunder

[olive wraith]

Heroic leap feels amazing to use

[sullen tendon]

When people saw mountian thane for the first time they expected chain lightnings going off and electric bladestorms and electric on the ground everywhere. Not a few extra lightning bolts on thudnerclap ( which we already had througha glyph for years)

[edgy widget]

cause it's still Dragon Roar, they just renamed it to not steal Evoker's fantasy

[slim coral]

I feel like Moutaine thane gotta owns visually

[sullen tendon]

and slayer litearlly has nothing

[slim coral]

There could def be more

[edgy widget]

I mean maybe you did, but I don't think everyone did no

[sullen tendon]

its just normal warrior

[edgy widget]

Slayer has some animations

[slim coral]

You should turn blue when you hit avatar as thane

[olive wraith]

Slayer has extra spins

[edgy widget]

Slayer's Strike, Execute

[slim coral]

Or call down thunder

[sullen tendon]

the slayer animations are just the outlaw rogue animations

[edgy widget]

Lightning Strike does this

[edgy widget]

half the animations in the game are reused in one place or another

[slim coral]

When you just avatar?

[turbid bay]

If only they made warriors animations like ff14 warrior animations. Give us fell cleave when

[olive wraith]

Every day I see Bobby talk in here I legit don’t know why he plays wow

[sly crane]

waiting for the ret pally level warrior rework

[sullen tendon]

yea i know becuase they keep makin g more proto drake skeleton mounts

[olive wraith]

Seems like he hates the game

[slim coral]

[edgy widget]

no, when you Avatar you get lightning around your hands - calling down Lightning when you Avatar would look weird since that would make it look like a Lightning Strike which is not happening

[olive wraith]

Which one? The most recent one, or one of the 4 since DF

[edgy widget]

that's a lot of people tbh, but it's really annoying that you can't really have a productive conversation about anything in here without someone trying to take over the conversation with "everything is awful"

[slim coral]

I mean ret gets wings they could do an effect similar to that

[sly crane]

was the big one that made it how it is now in df?

[edgy widget]

yes, and Warriors get lightning around their hands

[slim coral]

Hmm I’ll have to look closely

[edgy widget]

it should be more apparent imo, but the anim is there

Thane has a lot of lightning shit though

[slim coral]

But my main issue is roar of ons not having much visual feedback compared to a breath

That is something I would like

[edgy widget]

Well Breath lasts a lot longer than Roar/OF/Ons, ofc it's gonna have more visual feedback

[sullen tendon]

I already know the wow dev team looks at what ascension wow does but I wish they would just stop trying to hide it and just add shit like they do

[slim coral]

Or if CS made it so spikes came out the ground

Would be sick

[frank dawn]

that would mean a dev would have to remember those abilities exist tho

bit sus

[edgy widget]

They actually did improve Roar's anim and audio in either DF or TWW beta

[slim coral]

Yeah it’s just not very flashy which I know they can do

[turbid bay]

It still feels eh tho just seeing a dragon head around your head no real ground animation or aoe indicator. No real effects on the enemies

[sullen tendon]

dragon roar feels like the slowest animation inthe game

[edgy widget]

Idk that most animations really have any effect on the enemy specifically

aside from ones that physically connect (like Lightning Strikes)

[sullen tendon]

it feels like whenyou hit dragon roar it adds .5sec to the gcd

[turbid bay]

Yeah i mean its a bleed they could do something but yeh

[edgy widget]

but yeah Thunderous Roar is pretty outdated, they should have just replaced it entirely when they renamed it

Warriors never had shit to do with dragons in the first place

and even less now that it's generically "thunderous" roar

[turbid bay]

Yeah its weird

[sullen tendon]

yelling loud

[edgy widget]

I don't think that's anything inherent to dragons

[sullen tendon]

you ever see jurassic park

[turbid bay]

Honeslty then could have you leap up in the air smash the ground with something cool like that

[edgy widget]

Yeah, but I didn't see any dragons in it

[sullen tendon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3rIFjCVawc

yell loud

hurt enemy

[edgy widget]

So... Colossus Smash?

[edgy widget]

hate to break it to you, but that's not a dragon

that's T-Rex

and the ability isn't called Chicken Roar

[sullen tendon]

ok what do draongs sound like then lizard expert

[edgy widget]

like dragons

go turn on wow and find out

[sinful spoke]

well theres way to answer that question smart ass cause dragons dont exist

👍

[sullen tendon]

world of warcraft is the first place a dragon has ever showed up in media

[edgy widget]

what dragons sound like in other media has no relevance on what they sound like in WoW

[sinful spoke]

english is a hard language i get it

[edgy widget]

Orcs in WoW don't look much like other media, nor do they need to

[sullen tendon]

why do lions sound like lions in wow

[edgy widget]

do they? maybe because someone wanted them to
which is not the same thing as saying because they have to

[edgy widget]

flip that question around a little bit - why don't Orcs in WoW look like Orcs in LotR?
and the (I would hope very obvious) answer is because they don't have to - they're completely independent from one another

[sullen tendon]

they do

[edgy widget]

no they don't, not even remotely

[sullen tendon]

big hulking gross monsters

[slim coral]

They really should of gone the Blademaster route

I think their argument against it was just a cop out

[sinful spoke]

if warrior was like slayer in lost ark itd be poggers

[slim coral]

True

[sinful spoke]

or berserker

[earnest canyon]

wow orcs are ripped from warhammer

[edgy widget]

orcs in LotR aren't even big, they're closer to goblins

[sullen tendon]

big hulking gross monster

[sinful spoke]

bro put a giga chad next to a monstrosity and said they look similar

[slim coral]

“We can’t give you guys Blademaster because mage as mirror image”

Like what

You guys gave everyone warriors execute who cares

[sinful spoke]

truer

watch them use this excuse to remove our execute instead

[hushed gust]

Aren’t they supposed to lean more towards Warhammer Orks anyway? Just less junker sci-fi?

[edgy widget]

first of all, those are uruk-hai, a bio-engineered cross breed
second of all, they still look entirely different, are different colored, sound different, and so on
third of all, they're not even particularly big, being roughly man-sized while orcs in WoW are (usually) significantly larger

[sullen tendon]

do you ever listen to yourself

[edgy widget]

these are regular orcs in lotr

[sullen tendon]

orcs in media = gross big hulking monster

[edgy widget]

where did gross come from?

[sullen tendon]

they have green skin and sharp teeth

[sinful spoke]

orcs in lotr are gross

[edgy widget]

also in what way is something that's roughly man sized "hulking" ?

[earnest canyon]

yes, blizzard was in talks to get the warhammer licence, but wanted full creative freedom which they didnt get, but rather than scrapping a mostly complete game they made Orcs and Humans, and Games Workshop stupidly ignored them as they didnt really understand the video games market

[edgy widget]

do you listen to yourself? lol

[sinful spoke]

the only reason wow orcs are gree is cause the demon blood

no other orcs are green

are u stupid

[edgy widget]

and before that they were brown, which is still different from LotR

[sinful spoke]

yep

they basically were human skin tone

[edgy widget]

and Orcs don't actually have many sharp teeth, aside from a couple protruding tusks, their teeth are largely similar to humans

[sullen tendon]

orc = big gross monster

[sinful spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/orc-gif-19728525

thats gross?

[edgy widget]

"one of these is not like the other"

you need to go back to Darktide my dude, cause you clearly don't know shit about WoW

[sullen tendon]

imagien being a warrior and not knowing what an orc is

[edgy widget]

yeah, that's what happens when you main Darktide

[noble elm]

Orc have big shoulder make mog look good

Do we need to know anything else?

[slim coral]

Also

Why can’t avatar be bigger

Or have something itself

[edgy widget]

spec Colossus

[sinful spoke]

avatar should be like the slayer ult in lost ark

u summon a giant avatar that does a huge slash attack

[hushed gust]

most of fury's animations could be updated, but- i kinda don't want them to, because that means they'll update Bladestorm, and i don't want that to change.

[sinful spoke]

why would they update bladestorm

its literally basically new

[edgy widget]

The crux of it, as discussed earlier, is that Warriors don't have a whole lot of theme, which makes it harder to make them flashy the same way you can just sprinkle fire and lightning all over shaman or holy shit all over paladins

the only real theme of warrior is bonk hard and fast

[hushed gust]

yeah... my suggestion? lean into the themes we do have. let us have gushier blood for arms, and let fury have more lightning/fire glyph efffects like burning rage and the chunkier thunderclap

[sinful spoke]

bro

[edgy widget]

I would be inclined to agree, but you gotta be careful cause you don't wanna step on other classes toes - you can't just put fire and lightning all over Warriors or they start to look like Shaman

[sinful spoke]

fury doesnt want fucking thunder clap

get that shit out of here

thats an arms spell

[edgy widget]

doing it in a really specific way, like Thane, is one thing, but applying it across the board is another

[noble elm]

They created an entire theme for us in legion and then forgot it existed

[edgy widget]

speak for yourself, thane blasts

[edgy widget]

did they? if so I forgot it existed too

[sinful spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/boo-gif-19787475173016375

[hushed gust]

i mean sure. i am speaking with major pyro bias, honestly.

[noble elm]

Valajar/titan based Norse warrior stuff

[edgy widget]

oh

eh

that was never really fleshed out either tbh

[sullen tendon]

god imagine a warrior becoming a shaman like that would ever happen

[edgy widget]

it was pretty much all focused on the artifact - nothing else

[noble elm]

I mean it wasn’t much but it was at least a start, more than we got now lol

[edgy widget]

or a paladin, or a death knight

[sinful spoke]

a warrior didnt become a shaman

he became an enhance shammny

from ele

[hushed gust]

to be honest, fury's artifact was more of the lackluster lore and flavor-wise. OF coming back from it's fun, but das kinda it in my book.

[sinful spoke]

👍

maybe pay attention tot he game

[edgy widget]

Idk, Legion really fucked that theming all up imo - the class hall sucked ass and the valarjar res thing was so rng it might as well have not existed

[dense elbow]

It was cool tho

[edgy widget]

and none of it was really represented in Arms - it was more voidy than anything else

but again, those themes were all concentrated within the artifacts, not the class/specs themselves

[dense elbow]

Odyn's chosen hero spec when?

[edgy widget]

probably never lol, he's pretty far removed from the current lore and not exactly looked upon fondly anymore either

[hushed gust]

and how would that differ from Thane with OF specced?

[frank dawn]

I still wish we had our bifrost, let me meteor into zones of my choosing

[floral frigate]

Gally Down

[dense elbow]

Poor ol' popsicle Odyn

[sinful spoke]

thane with of?

💀

[edgy widget]

that was literally the only cool thing about our Order Hall lol

[frank dawn]

pretty much haha

[dense elbow]

Gz

[edgy widget]

everything else about it was half assed trash

[turbid bay]

Naisu

[floral frigate]

Ring/weapon/trinket which do you think is the best buy for my last dinar?

[turbid bay]

Ring

[hushed gust]

depends. what's your progress like?

[edgy widget]

better question is why weren't they bought with your first dinar?

[dense elbow]

Big Red Button from M+

[floral frigate]

i have bought myth seaforium, and bis

[turbid bay]

Jastors is the biggest bang for your buck

[floral frigate]

ya i have herioc one only reason im questioning it

[turbid bay]

It will increase your dps by heaps and others in your raid

[slim coral]

Yes but how do we change that

[turbid bay]

Best in slots and capital punisher are nice but they are less then jastors. House of cards also nice but there is alternatives

[frank dawn]

but jastors doesn't buff me in solo delves

worthless tbh

[edgy widget]

you don't, lol

[turbid bay]

I would just sim it and weigh it up. I always try to keep in mind what items others in my raid is chasing

The truth is everyone wants jastors

Not everyone wants best in slots or cap punisher and hoc

[dense elbow]

As long we don't go full out anime with stands, or steal things like dancing rune blades... We can stay more grounded and try to represent super human raw strength and power.

No need to summon a blade from the heavens, when a simple meaty slash with a groundcrack will so the trick

I personally don't dislike keeping things rather simple

[turbid bay]

For your big abilities tho

It should go a bit harder

[floral frigate]

ya im simming right now

[turbid bay]

My jastors was a 60k dps increase

[hushed gust]

NGL, if i can just make Thane look more fiery, i'd be happy. massive bias, but Burning Rage is a glyph for a reason.

[drowsy heron]

they should bring glyph type stuff like that back

[dense elbow]

Thane do be kinda Thorim themed tho. Hope for a Odyn theme if you want fire

[edgy widget]

they absolutely should do more glyphs, I agree

[drowsy heron]

I'll be curious to see how Hero Talents evolve going into Midnight, hopefully we get some good shit

[edgy widget]

Thane is just lightning/thunder, nothing inherent to Thorim (who they now associate with Enh btw)

[dense elbow]

Here is to hope for cool things to happen

[edgy widget]

I'm very certain they're not gonna do an "odyn theme" spec so you can put that dream to rest

[turbid bay]

Wonder if they will give us 3rd hero talent or just expand on current ones

[edgy widget]

which doesn't mean they might not add a little fire somewhere, but they're def not gonna do it with odyn specifically

[drowsy heron]

probably just expand on current or give all 3 to each spec

[hushed gust]

to be honest, Odyn might have a lava beard, but a lot of his stuff is storm-based, anyway.

[dense elbow]

Cause Odyn is now frost

[turbid bay]

I would like to see ravager be included with slayer imo

[edgy widget]

yeah he got the beard from Ragnaros

[turbid bay]

Only being locked to bladestorm is weird

[drowsy heron]

i wish bladestorm was more viable instead of it having to be locked to Slayer

[wraith wharf]

to bad they stopped doing stuff for HoTs, Odyn might of eventually been made into a hero

[turbid bay]

They gutted the shit outta blade storm in s1

[edgy widget]

No need to summon a blade from the heavens, when a simple meaty slash with a groundcrack will so the trick

this was kind of the original point made before bobby came in derailing everything - Warrior has a lot of "pull weapon out of ass" effects already, which is fine and still somewhat grounded in sense you can either think of it as more grounded carrying around a whole ass arsenal or more fantastical in believing they simply manifest them

but the phantom weapons from the short-lived CS/WB anims didn't really fit with that, they were entirely different, so it's not surprising they got changed

[slim coral]

Have you ever played Khezan

Bezeker of Khezan

[edgy widget]

not yet, but I'm familiar with it

[slim coral]

fury should be like that

[hushed gust]

those were poorly-made anyway. if they didn't look like a shit photoshop job, i would have been more amenable to them.

[edgy widget]

I don't know that I'd say that, but they did have a few problems

their fidelity was fine, the desync was a bigger issue - it turned into this long and awkward animation that didn't really line up with the effect

[hushed gust]

the animation on the idividual weapons were lazy. why would the weapon swing away from the enemies? would do they look like they're kinda just falling over?

that and they could have put a better effect to cover up the reused assets.

[edgy widget]

they didn't swing at all, they just crashed to the ground

for both CS and WB, they appeared above the targed and slammed down

[slim coral]

https://youtu.be/ErFja5AKA3A?t=203 @edgy widget this is what demolish should be

I started it at the timestap

timestamp

where the weapon gets bigger

[edgy widget]

I've played it
and I mean... that is basically what demolish is - it's a series of swings, it's just not nearly as flashy

[slim coral]

would be sick

[edgy widget]

lost ark had a lot of sick anims

but they're also loud af, and WoW already has a huge problem with visual noise and clutter

[slim coral]

yeah like this one

[turbid bay]

Would be nice if we got a lil of that flavour

I can understand for visual clutter but let us be able to turn it off

[dense elbow]

Is this discussion kinda about how ppl want more magical themed visual flare?

[turbid bay]

Our opt out of

No i want to feel badass

[hushed gust]

i might just be a blind piece of shit, but my own ravager has covered up a couple circles from time to time.

[edgy widget]

yeah it's a real problem in this game

[turbid bay]

Let me bonk someone real good with nice impact and visuals

And let me be able to opt out of it

[modest condor]

at least we dont have the thing that happened with spear on raszageth anymore

[edgy widget]

I mean most of the common/rotational Warrior animations are not bad by any stretch of the imagination
They're just not particularly flashy, which is not the same thing

[heavy sand]

you mean both of our ravagers blocking ground stuff? :(

[modest condor]

ive been hit by way too many swirlies while standing in my spear on the boss

[dense elbow]

I just pray we don't end up in a world where every strike explodes in flashy red and oranges everywhere

[wraith wharf]

at least we no longer have to stand on spear, so that helps

[slim coral]

big true

[edgy widget]

that's what I mean by visual noise

[wraith wharf]

(everything is better than red mage LB3)

[turbid bay]

Im more talking about just our big hitters not like raging blow or bt

[edgy widget]

it is a real thing, and "let me opt out of it then" is not a good answer

• for one, because we don't have that capability in the first place
• for two, because if everyone ends up feeling like they need to opt out of it in order to play the game (which at a higher level would absolutely become a thing), then it might as well just be the default

[turbid bay]

I think wow has a large casual playerbase

That would play with this stuff on

[edgy widget]

maybe they would, but they're not part of this conversation atm

[slim coral]

warrior needs more visual noise if you don't agree that's fine

[wraith wharf]

everyone wants the transformation effect of going from normal to super Saiyan 1, noone wants to go from super Saiyan 1 to 2 (spikier hair, lightning zaps)

[turbid bay]

For me as a player if it doesnt hinder my performance i would

And that is mostly visual clarity

For me personally

[edgy widget]

I mean we just got through talking about how ravager/spear/etc hide a bunch of shit on the ground that you need to see

[heavy sand]

carpets in karazhan hiding sanguine.....

[turbid bay]

They are lingering effects

[edgy widget]

so yeah, it's absolutely already a problem in this game - and that doesn't mean you don't make flashy effects, you just need to be careful to not make them too noisy

[wraith wharf]

personally, i just want to shrink allied hunter / warlock pets

[turbid bay]

I think ravager and spear is different because they linger

[edgy widget]

and the context of the conversation was comparing to Lost Ark, a game with extremely noisy (and lingering) effects

[turbid bay]

And i wish we could turn them off

[edgy widget]

its not just Spear and Ravager though, they're just obvious examples

if you're just hitting a dummy on your own, most of the War animations actually are quite nice

they're just not particularly noisy, which is perhaps good in some respects, but also means they get drowned out by everyone else's much more intense magical effects, so when you're in group content, you tend to not see them as much

[slim coral]

while Lost ark is very noisy it's still very obvious where everything is

they have a good way of doing that

[edgy widget]

Different type of game though, not completely comparable - it tends to use much larger boss models with a different view scope to still make them easier to see, and the area denial (laser beams, void zones, etc) tend to be much bigger as a result

whereas WoW tends to use much more precise pinpoint beams and small void zones

[turbid bay]

Heck even bladestorm itself im sure we have all had those moments where we are squinting to see the mugzee mines aoes over bladestorm

[slim coral]

true but if they can do I trust blizzard can to just like the campfire screen they yoinked

or the dragonflying they yoinked form gulid wars

[edgy widget]

maybe they could, but we're now talking about a whole lot more than just making some fancy animations

and there's a huge difference between copying an idea, like dragonriding, and what you're suggesting lol

[slim coral]

well surely they could borrow some visuals from lost ark for warrior

and then just tone them down

[edgy widget]

just like saying "well add a toggle so I can turn them off" - that's easy to say but not so easy to do

[turbid bay]

Anyways i think if they can do it with thunderblast they can apply this to thunderous roar

[edgy widget]

Sure, they could but as stated the games are entirely different - Lost Ark can afford to be noiser, because the way you engage with the game is very different from WoW

[slim coral]

also I forgot to say while our cds may be short they've shown they can do good visuals for short abilites like thunder blast

[turbid bay]

Yeah im more making over game comparisons other games to let you tone down visual effects of yourself and others

[edgy widget]

nobody said they can't make flashier visuals lol, obviously they could and in some cases should
but adding Lost Ark's level of bullshittery would not be a good move lol, no matter how cool it may look

[slim coral]

sorry to backtrack

forgot to add that on

[hushed gust]

setting pyromania asside, just update Roar to have a bit more of a punch in the audio and give Avatar something more than just "big and grey". that'll be enough for me

[edgy widget]

they actually did update its audio in the last couple expacs

[turbid bay]

Eh

[edgy widget]

frankly i'd rather just reimagine the ability entirely at this point though

[slim coral]

well roar needs to probably just be removed for something else

[hushed gust]

i'm aware, but i'm just not happy with what they did.

[slim coral]

roar doesnt even make sense for a warrior

[turbid bay]

It sounds like a drachtyr ability

Evokers using that shit

[edgy widget]

well you see, it's loud like a dragon, which is no longer a dragon but now thunder, which has something to do with Jurrasic Park

[edgy widget]

it was, that's why they renamed it from Dragon Roar to Thunderous Roar lol

[dense elbow]

I still think old name was cooler and better

[edgy widget]

old name didn't have shit to do with warriors either, but we lost it cause Evoker's got the dragon fantasy

[young swan]

same!

make it so

[slim coral]

I'm really surprised thunderous roar has no thunder

for MT

[edgy widget]

should have just renamed it chicken squawk and been done with it

[young swan]

i feel like roar is the perfect opportunity to just get rid of it and turn it into bfa bloodbath

[slim coral]

lets just remove all cds

except OF

ez

maybe keep bladestorm

[dense elbow]

Go on

[slim coral]

that's all I got

time for a new warrior full overhaul

[dense elbow]

I like how reck speeds things up, gives a burst in the gameplay

[slim coral]

Dan did say he was gonna make a tweet sometime soon about warrior CDs being not touched

[turbid bay]

Warriors out here imitating dragons rawrrr XD

[hushed gust]

nah- make Raging Blow require enrage again like legion

[dense elbow]

But we are always enraged

What does that change

[hushed gust]

pisses off the dumbasses

[dense elbow]

[slim coral]

they should bake RA into warrior

[hushed gust]

i'm listening but this a dangerous proposal.

[heavy sand]

make spear blue again

[dense elbow]

There is a glyph for that

No?

[heavy sand]

yes

but i dont want ot unlock it and buy it on my 30 alt warriors lol

[plush zephyr]

Someone name a random old raid for me to run

[heavy sand]

aq40

[dense elbow]

Sanctum of Domination

[pearl sequoia]

nerubar palace

[heavy sand]

15 minutes of sylvanas

[plush zephyr]

banger

[hushed gust]

proposal. one that's- interesting, but i doubt it'll be the most well-liked.

what if Roar was replaced with an effect similar to Ancient Aftershock from the Night Fae?

[dense elbow]

Not a fan of a CC CD also doing damage

[heavy sand]

i think he was meaning the visual

[hushed gust]

take away the knock-down part if you don't want the CC to mix with your damage. we already have Shockwave.

[dense elbow]

I just don't see it as very warrior

It is more a DK, paladin effect and fantasy

If the earth rumbles like an earthquake, if is shaman

Knocking ppl directly down tho, is warrior

[heavy sand]

more of a prot thing, but i want to punch mobs into position

[hushed gust]

what about the ability isn't very warrior? Ravager kinda already shows we can do damage zones, and the funny haste circle can be replaced with a banner

[dense elbow]

I won't mind warrior having a strike that bashes ppl around. But a ground damage effect... I just don't see it

[hushed gust]

i mean- if Thunderclap is a thing, and Ravager is a thing, i'm sure there's some angle to make it look in line

[dense elbow]

Ye, but clap is a clap of force causing the thunder. It doesn't magically linger, if you get me

It is magical, fantastical. But not magic, if you get me

[hushed gust]

i get ya. i'm just saying there's probably some kind of line of thought within said area.

[dense elbow]

Perhaps, I just can't wrap my mind to it atm. But perhaps a dev got a neat idea

[edgy widget]

I don't think the lingering field is a particularly major breaking point, if you wanted you could still make it "grounded" in the style of a mini-earthquake, which is basically what TClap does in the first place

that said, aside from visuals I don't think there's a huge difference between TRoar doing damage in an area with a lingering bleed or Ancient Aftershock doing damage in an area with a lingering damage field

if anything, I'd err on the side of Roar there, since Bleeds at least share a more common theme (even if Roar itself does not) and build synergy

[dense elbow]

Yeah, you could. But the impact of the blow causing a lingering earthquake just doesn't, feel, warrior to me.

It seems more pure magical, like a Shaman would do.

[edgy widget]

I mean smacking the ground so hard it breaks is pretty Warrior

[dense elbow]

Agrees, but it wouldn't rumble on

[edgy widget]

it might, that's what an earthquake is IRL, and they're not magical either

I agree it doesn't have to be an overtly magical effect... though I should remind you that Warriors in WoW are inherently magical

[dense elbow]

Yeah, but it does not vibe with my suspension of disbelief in this matter

[fossil cloak]

we don't need magic just more weapon attack animations, we shouldn't share with DKS+Ret Paladins

since thats all we have

[edgy widget]

maybe, but that's your problem lol
it definitely fits within the fantasy established within the game

[dense elbow]

Well, ofc it is

It is my opinion

[turbid bay]

I mean thunderblast is using lightning so you could argue already thats a shaman mix

[fossil cloak]

not opposed to more options

[edgy widget]

it is, but in a very limited form and contained to the hero spec which is specifically about thunder and lightning, not part of the base kit

[turbid bay]

Rumbling ground isnt that farfetched if you slam it hard enough

[fossil cloak]

like Dragon Knight or just a knight theme in general would be cool

[edgy widget]

no it's not at all - it fits perfectly within the fantasy already established by the game

[dense elbow]

Yep, Thane is a lot more magical per se as a theme. But clap is just clapping hard

[edgy widget]

but still, I don't see any particular advantage/improvement in this particular case

[hushed gust]

THE CLAPP of your buttcheaks are just too strong

[dense elbow]

[young swan]

even without the established fantasy, we literally have a talent called seismic reverberation 💀 the only thing missing is the actual rumbling ground

[edgy widget]

rumbling earth is literally the name of a warrior talent lol

and yeah seismic reverb

it all absolutely fits the established theme

hell even Champion's Spear literally does that now that they made it poop earth-themed

[young swan]

it would be cool if we could get an ability using like the eruption animation that just does continuous damage or knocks them down or something

err, upheaval

[edgy widget]

Colossus Earthquaker knocks up, but no particular anim iirc

[dense elbow]

Warrior prob should be the premium push and knock things about class tho

Would it work for gameplay? Doubtful. It gets oppressive and fast.

But big guy in armor pushing smaller guys around, would fit the bill of big angry warcraft orc

[turbid bay]

Slamming a target which moves them sounds cool

I mean shield charge feels like it could do that

[hushed gust]

The prot shockwave knock-up could be cool to be all spec

[dense elbow]

We had that, it sounds cooler than what it becomes. But it fits

[young swan]

its a colossus talent

not prot exclusive

[turbid bay]

I mean dks get death grip

Give us chain blade grips

[young swan]

so VERY doubtful we ever get access to that

[turbid bay]

Throw the blades impale them, pull them back in

[young swan]

with them doubling down on grip being the dk raid buff, that wont be happening anytime soon

[hushed gust]

i mean- expanding on Archim's chain spear idea, a friend and i suggested what if spear yoinked as well as chained?

[turbid bay]

Yeah true we probably dont want in on that storm

[young swan]

I think that specific thing has been argued for for a long while

[turbid bay]

Could be cool tbh

Pulls them to your location?

[slim coral]

I don't really care about animations as much as I care about our cds actually doing damage

[dense elbow]

Spear being so tiny in range, could allow for it to yoink ppl in on throw

[slim coral]

so that we can talent into them

[turbid bay]

Be nice flavour then just nother aoe

[dense elbow]

If I could redo spear, it wouldn't work, as I rather have you hurk your spear and hit things in a line. Impaling them at cursor point or max range/wall

[turbid bay]

Or what if the spear creates a sinkhole that slowly sucks everything in

To the centre

[dense elbow]

That sounds more druid or shaman to me

[gleaming siren]

how could you say something so controversial yet so brave

[edgy widget]

as much as it'd be useful, I don't think it should yoink, because (as pointed out) that steps on DK's toes

[hushed gust]

so does chains and the druid vortex bullshit.

[turbid bay]

If its long cd tho that might be ok?

[edgy widget]

I think just making it a relatively easy to talent into tether gives Warrior some nice semi-unique utility that's useful on both a personal and group level, without feeling overly necessary on a strategic one or threatening DK's only real raid contribution

[dense elbow]

Maybe add a knockdown to it on impact, if it is pure utility. So it got a bit more flex in usability scenarios

[edgy widget]

good thing they're two different conversations

[edgy widget]

not sure I see the need, considering that Warriors already have a bunch of CC
but also consider the more you try to add to it, the more "expensive" it's going to end up being, which isn't really the goal here

[turbid bay]

i feel like we need something to be viable/meta in m+

[edgy widget]

if you were to do something like that, I'd probably consider a follow-on talent, rather than a base effect
but consider that giving it something like a knockdown - a no-DR CC effect - would cause it to supercede Storm Bolt/Shockwave, which turns this from a "neat but not necessary utility" into "the best utility ability we have" and majorly skewing the power balance

[edgy widget]

yeah it's called damage

[turbid bay]

Arms is ok this season

[edgy widget]

definitely not meta

[turbid bay]

I mean its not great

But not bad

[plush zephyr]

wonder how different this conversation would be if fury was in S-A tier dps

[dense elbow]

Fury is ok too

[turbid bay]

Not fury

And fury less so next season

[edgy widget]

not very; half the convo would still be qqing about not being good enough

[dense elbow]

What part of it?

[turbid bay]

We had a brief moment of being good in s1

I loved pulling aggro all the time

[dense elbow]

M+? Not really

[turbid bay]

Not really m+

But raid we were beastly

[hushed gust]

fury warriors will never be satisfied till we're #1 meta in every area, and then we will likely bitch about others bitching about us being too strong.

[turbid bay]

Like broodtwister felt so good on fury

[young swan]

considering we've literally never been in that #1 spot in the history of modern wow, is that really surprising?

happens multiple times an xpac for mage

[dense elbow]

We had our time, future belongs to everyone else

[turbid bay]

Mage is never bad

[plush zephyr]

Feel like people can’t decide if they want complete changes, or tuning or rework or this or that I just feel like Warriors want a lot

all the time

[dense elbow]

Cause ppl is many

Makes sense it ain't one opinion

[turbid bay]

It feels like blizzard doesnt really care about warriors

[young swan]

correct

[turbid bay]

Feels like we get the short stick everytime

Like our tier set for thane is a joke

Nothing is happening

[dense elbow]

I am sure we will be fixed once they are down the list of things to do

We are always last

Curse Warrior being so low on the alphabetical order!

[turbid bay]

Thats what happens when your the w class

Last on patch notes last on list to fix

[dense elbow]

[turbid bay]

But yeah i would just like to see a season when we are on the top end

Wanted in m+, filling multiple slots in raid

Can dream

[hushed gust]

hey! hopium isn't quite copium till the patch is cooked. beyblade mode can still be meta.

https://tenor.com/view/blue-velvet-dennis-hopper-frank-booth-no2-nitrous-oxide-gif-17415359

[turbid bay]

Colossus, beyblade or thane ill take anything at this point

[dense elbow]

Beyblade does negative damage, so doubt that

We prob going to be in the exact same spot. Fine for raid, some good fights. Nice, that is fine.

Then in m+ we will be 10-30% behind the pack, but able to do +12s and top DPS at times. So it is fine

Everything is fine, it will be fine. It's fine

[olive wraith]

I mean Col seems pretty above average

Especially since bleeds are uncapped

[clever path]

https://tenor.com/view/everything-is-fine-drinks-pour-pitcher-sad-gif-9968820970808147844

[gleaming siren]

The application method for Rend isn't

[olive wraith]

Fair. But you can most likely get rend on over 8 targets

Relatively painless

[gleaming siren]

Yea sure you can do that

Idk I tried Fury on PTR and I really don't feel like I need to repeat that on live if nothing changes

(In keys that is)

[olive wraith]

I’ll probably just stick with arms next season tbh

[turbid bay]

Will need to decide if im going to main spec stats for fury or arms as well

Pretty sure fury going to be dead again this season in m+

Will be surprised if it isnt

[oblique thistle]

We have time for tuning to come

[hushed gust]

we still have, what? a month and a couple weeks of tuning? lessee if we get acknowledged later down the line.

[young swan]

like 3 weeks lol

3-4 weeks

[hushed gust]

damn. well, 3 weeks is still 3 weeks i guess

[young swan]

sorry, 4-5 weeks

[oblique thistle]

Time is time

[turbid bay]

I mean the fact we havent got anything so far might mean they are cooking something decent to be released at once

But its so late tho

[oblique thistle]

I mean any sign of life would be appreciated at this point

I dont know why something hasn't at least happened with the thane tier set by now

[young swan]

lol

must be new

we've been saying that since s2 dragonflight

[turbid bay]

I mean im not chasing a complete overhaul

[young swan]

oh I know

[turbid bay]

Leave that till next expac

[young swan]

said that in df as well

same bit

[hushed gust]

just give us our burst back, man. i'll be happy with a nice spike and coast till next pack.

[turbid bay]

Eh i like fury if its decent in raid i play it. If arms is winning all areas i go arms i guess

[oblique thistle]

That wont happen

[olive wraith]

Fury looks not bad for raid

[oblique thistle]

People keep saying it will happen or it needs to happen but it wont

[hushed gust]

people can say it won't happen, but i'll keep screaming for it.

[olive wraith]

If nothing changes I think I saw fury sims higher on st

[young swan]

tuning aside it seems like a decent raid for fury

[olive wraith]

Higher than arms I mean

[oblique thistle]

Fury always seems fine for raid I feel

but I mostly play M+ so if fury is deadge next season then I'm playing something else lol

[turbid bay]

Yeah if it performs higher then arms i probs stat fury for raid and just offspec arms for m+

[gleaming siren]

It's probably in a pretty good spot when comparing to other melee

mostly

[young swan]

nah it kinda sucks compared to other melee

[gleaming siren]

Melee so far kinda suck

[young swan]

but its better than arms

so W

[turbid bay]

How much dps increase is otherclasses getting from tiersets

[gleaming siren]

idk hard to say

last testing was pretty unplayable for me

[turbid bay]

Are we still below the bar

[gleaming siren]

and for normal I played Dwagon

[young swan]

no idea

fury tierset is giga tho

slayer is anyways

[turbid bay]

Yeah for sure 21% seems like alot

[gleaming siren]

Wouldn't be surprised if 2pc got bonked

[turbid bay]

But again if other classes are the same doesnt mean much

[gleaming siren]

for both Fury and Arms

[turbid bay]

Fuck

[gleaming siren]

which would hit Arms a lot harder

[olive wraith]

Fury finally has a good tier set increase

[young swan]

im not so sure, i could see 2p and 4p getting swapped tho

[turbid bay]

Its going to hurt arms juggernaut

[olive wraith]

Hurt?

[turbid bay]

I already cant stand the rng on jugg

[gleaming siren]

For Fury maybe, Arms really just needs some power moved from 2pc to 4pc imo

Or a swap and some power moved

[turbid bay]

If they bonk 2 set will be less sudden death procs to keep juggernaut stacks rolling

[gleaming siren]

Idk I'll reserve judgement until I can properly test

[olive wraith]

Can’t really predict what’s going to happen

[gleaming siren]

And compare a bit more to the rest of my raid

[olive wraith]

Why stress on something not confirmed

[turbid bay]

Yeah im not stressing i just dislike the current arms juggernaut interaction

Anything to make it more reliable is good

Before execute phase

[olive wraith]

The set makes it more consistent though

[turbid bay]

Yeh for sure

[gleaming siren]

Nobody likes Jugg on Arms I think

[turbid bay]

Its good

Yeah its just stupid

[gleaming siren]

I would be surprised if devs actively liked Jugg

[olive wraith]

It’s just one of those things where it feels great if you can maintain it. But feels giga bad if you don’t get a proc you need

[turbid bay]

You can do everything in your power and rng can just fuck you

[gleaming siren]

Idk it feels like if you do hold a Jugg to Execute

[turbid bay]

And it falls off

[gleaming siren]

It's not rewarding enough

[olive wraith]

Top parsers are the lucky ones that jugg doesn’t fall off

[turbid bay]

Yeh for sure

That feels like terrible design

[olive wraith]

Idk it’s pretty rewarding I guess. The stacking is the bad part

[turbid bay]

Make it less stacks

Or make the procs more frequent on arms

Increase jugg timer

[olive wraith]

Then you run into the probably of it being too strong

[turbid bay]

Any of those

Ahh yeh sure just increase the buff time then

Its not a skill expression thing atm anyways

[olive wraith]

That’s probably the least problematic idea

I’m sure you’re still gonna run into the problem of being unlucky though

[fading sky]

If u remove it

Buff exe accordingly

= better

[eternal sundial]

AJ rlly good

Jugg rlly bad

IMO

[turbid bay]

^ basically this

[smoky vale]

bring back old name

[clever iron]

nerf bladestorm bit more and all good

[fast mural]

Ravager slayer

[clever belfry]

the best way to play

[shrewd mango]

hey guys

thinking of returning to either retail or MoP

How is the current state for fury warriors in retail?

[clever belfry]

it exists

[shrewd mango]

I see

that bad huh?

[fleet pasture]

fine in raid, in m+ .. not so much

[clever belfry]

yeah pretty much that

[shrewd mango]

Is arms better?

Are we expecting buffs with the upcoming patch?

[summer quail]

in m+ yes. but it is nothing special still

just decent

[shrewd mango]

Ah alright

Know this is retail channel but does anyone remember how fury was in MoP?

If I may ask

[summer quail]

pretty good later in the expansion

[clever belfry]

how its actually gonna shape up for mop classic (with 5.4 talents and some rebalancing) - youre probably better off checking in fightclub

[shrewd mango]

Alright, thanks. Appreciate it

[signal falcon]

When you have meat cleaver active and cleave off something with a damage amp, does the cleaved portion of damage get amplified too?

I.e. 1st and 2nd boss of ML

Like when I hit the Azerokk add with a juicy BT is that also doing huge damage to the boss or does it just work against his regular defenses

[sour frigate]

No it doesn't amp

[gloomy loom]

guys u know my raid rep not going more than lvl 18.5? isnt the cap at 19?

[clever belfry]

me when warriors work sensibly
but hunter beast cleave doesn't

[sour frigate]

Cuz warrior is in a good state and mathematically correct.

[clever belfry]

took until DF s4 for spriest to get fixed too

(and only cause people were using critter powered up stuff to onetap mobs in AA)

[gloomy loom]

anyone know why my gallagio rep is stuck at lvl 18.5 while cap is 19 this week?

[burnt oxide]

Killed enough bosses/ named mobs?

[gloomy loom]

yup, my rep not going up more than 18.5, tried to kill bosses in lfr, norm, hc, myth

but stuck at 18.5

[burnt oxide]

As longs as you are not killing the same ones over again, it might be bugged again, normaly it does fix itself after the lockout then

[gloomy loom]

i was some lvls behind, maybe this is the issue?

[burnt oxide]

Yeah, most likely

[gloomy loom]

will work if i kill more bosses with an alt?

[solemn thistle]

nope you have to wait for weekly reset

[south kayak]

Psychic Link thing

?

[clever belfry]

yea

it worked with beast cleave too, but due to the nature of it was much harder to exploit

[flat river]

when did this happen lol

i thought i had a 98

[clever belfry]

gala57

[odd stone]

Maybe I’m wrong but I thought I’ve seen it where you are a 98 but a bunch of low parses come in that push you up

[clever belfry]

this can only happen between the parse happening and the parse locking in (<24h)

but it does happen

[tardy lark]

Usually going down in percentile

[compact siren]

Giostronk

[ebon junco]

L

[tardy lark]

Clearly edit from "W"

[ebon junco]

no W's

[tardy lark]

The only W i've done is only raid once in the last 5 weeks

important edit

[ebon junco]

I took a major L last warrior raid

cancelaura bladestorm on 7min adds on gally

[tardy lark]

thats worse than sending BS 30 sec before

[smoky vale]

are you excited to play fury

[ebon junco]

I think I sent it 30sec b4 also @tardy lark

I just get it back wait

[smoky vale]

good morning timas

[tardy lark]

i did that 4 raids in a row

[smoky vale]

TEA UHM HWYYY

HI AAGARD

[tardy lark]

yo

[ebon junco]

I held for 12sec

gg

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PWG4cnF71hfyMbtD?fight=last&type=damage-done&source=8&ability=-46924

but look at the 07:30

bladestorm

@tardy lark fk playing fury tho i've got raging blow on mousewheel down

[tardy lark]

i cba another fury tier as well

[smoky vale]

its too late for that bud

[compact siren]

Mr gio, can you draw me a nice picture of your warrior in paint please

[smoky vale]

whats a paint

https://tenor.com/view/schnappi-schnappi-das-kleine-krokodil-kleine-krokodil-crocodile-egg-gif-24045530

[bitter palm]

arms meta incoming

[clever belfry]

noob or

[ebon junco]

[clever belfry]

its a question

[smoky vale]

(yes)

(im noob)

[ebon junco]

gio ur bald

[smoky vale]

who the fuck spread this rumor

[ebon junco]

@clever path

[smoky vale]

are you serious

[ebon junco]

++

[smoky vale]

@clever path im going to do bad things

blocked

[clever belfry]

gala57

[winged dove]

Out of curiosity, do you think blizz will ever make SMF viable other than a meme talent node choice? Something where they can design how monks and dk's scale w/ 2h and 1h's?

[orchid dagger]

No

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/robin-hood-fortune-teller-future-prediction-gif-25704815

[winged dove]

Would love a world where it can be a thing

[orchid dagger]

First rule of brown class is fuck brown class

[smoky vale]

no one knows

buhsac you rage baited any suckers recently

[winged dove]

Honestly think SMF has a lot of potential but I think they need to rescale it to where it can boost strength by a percentile than only just attack speed and auto attack damage in today's modern wow

[smoky vale]

go play outlaw bud

[south kayak]

Real

[smoky vale]

better fury and smf

[south kayak]

They won't never make SMF competitive

I think they should just make it a transmog option

and forget about this whole smf business

[winged dove]

It's in the talent tree. Dead talents aren't really worth their weight. Telling someone to play another spec when Fury can be played with 1h's is a nonsense argument

[smoky vale]

its not

you get what you want and do more damage

[winged dove]

It just needs a redesign to where that gameplay can be utilized.

[smoky vale]

its something you can do now instead of waiting for something happen

[tardy lark]

smf -> transmog option pipeline is dead

[winged dove]

Yes, but it's a massive loss in terms of how it's scaled is my argument. No one talks about this talent every major patch existing. Either remove it or redesign it to where it can compete.

[tardy lark]

until then smf'ers can pay a talent point cost for a dps loss

[south kayak]

It should either be baseline or transmog

[tardy lark]

The talent is talked about a lot, but mostly how it should be removed

[smoky vale]

i mean just play smf and take the damage loss if it means that much to you

the damage loss will not be the reason you fail to complete content

[winged dove]

I'm not asking to play it I am theoryising why it still exists and why it's still here if it's just a massive loss to play.

I'd love a world where it's just a gameplay choice without loss

[south kayak]

because the devs are cooked

[smoky vale]

vestige of old days and fuck warrior

[orchid dagger]

Everyone yesterday when I said Archi was one of the worst things for woyer

[smoky vale]

[summer quail]

i mean it's not the only talent that is just a massive loss to play

storm of steel xD

[tardy lark]

can always play spiteful serenity and storm of steel

[south kayak]

Pretty much all classes have certain useless talents

[winged dove]

My argument is just why is it a talent and not like how monks and DK's utilize 2hs and 1h's

[clever path]

why

[south kayak]

because it's not intended to be competitive

they want you to use 2h weapons as fury

Bro when is GMOD fucking dropping

[smoky vale]

you spread a rumor

[south kayak]

i hate this raid

[tardy lark]

The same question has been posed to blizz since its reintroduction. The response has been that people want it as an option for when prot warriors look to try fury according to blizz

[clever path]

sorry..

[south kayak]

Did u guys get any mounts since the event

[clever path]

yeah

[south kayak]

which ones

I got 2 so far

[clever path]

i cant name them all rn too many.

[south kayak]

I'm trying to get GMOD now

taking the longest so far

I only did one nyalotha and got the mount lol

[smoky vale]

evaporate

[south kayak]

meanwhile im doing dozens of runs for gmod

[clever path]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/751898066977685585/1036673193701806211/KjmUMKVN.gif

[smoky vale]

how long does nylotha prequest take

[south kayak]

i thought this said elaborate

[summer quail]

ages mate

[south kayak]

a lot

I played during nyalotha so some of my chars already have it unlocked

[smoky vale]

so not worth nice

[south kayak]

I would say it is worth maybe just one char

for now

so you can do it during event

[smoky vale]

any other prequest raids

[south kayak]

no

[summer quail]

depends how badly you want the mount. it's pretty sick

[south kayak]

^

it's actually insanely good

I got it and I have to use it on every char lol

[smoky vale]

only mount i want isnt in the event

so

[south kayak]

what is it

I also got smoldering egg

the ragnaros mount

[smoky vale]

amir owl

[south kayak]

oh

I'll get that in DF remix

this week is the first time ive killed mythic fyrak lol

[south kayak]

lmfao

[smoky vale]

@ebon junco @eternal sundial

[summer quail]

pretty fun fight on mythic ngl

[south kayak]

true

I hate dragon soul but it has 2 mounts I need

the ones left

excluding legion mounts because we're getting remix

[earnest canyon]

It's nice when you make Internet friends

[clever belfry]

remove deez buddy

[earnest canyon]

I did nyalotha, got no mount, and remembered why I quit wow til new raid. Thankfully I have most of the others pre DF

[plush zephyr]

goated list

going for The Nine today with more alts

[tardy lark]

@oblique trail post :balls:

[clever belfry]

@oblique trail do ur fucking job

[tardy lark]

https://tenor.com/view/hurry-up-judge-judy-time-is-up-gif-8613963527341701454

[oblique trail]

@clever belfry@tardy lark@clever belfry@tardy lark@clever belfry@tardy lark@clever belfry@clever belfry@clever belfry@clever belfry@tardy lark@tardy lark@tardy lark@tardy lark

[tardy lark]

thanks bud

[oblique trail]

[oblique trail]

apprehend the criminal

[eternal sundial]

Accept ☑️

[oblique trail]

Goose on the loose!

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-running-release-quacken-gif-19879936

Unless they're Canadian Geese, those things are assholes. Like a honey badger, they just don't give a fuck.

[tender forge]

Hey guys does anyone have a rotation/priority guide for slayer fury, don't feel like I'm getting it from the wow head guide

Been playing mountain thane no problem but my dps sucks massive balls on slayer

[fading sky]

I mean install weakaura

2 press rb as much as possible ramp to never waste rage

[tender forge]

Do I Bladestorm on CD for single target?

[fading sky]

I do. And after a bladestorm rb as many times as u can until u dry out, get to 5 or loose enrage, then press ramp

[tender forge]

Great thanks mate , 👍🏻

[fading sky]

In gen rb a lot. Bt when u have more than 80% crit

Sub 35% ots 40% i think

Wa fixes forxu though

And always keep up ashen juggernaut

[marble pilot]

And in season 3 ashen will be a lot easier to manage cause tier sets. We gunna hit execute what 2x more often than now? Maybe more?

[modest condor]

yeah i think in s3 the check is literally just "is there at least 1 stack of mfe, if yes press sudden death"

[fading sky]

That rocks tbh

[chrome relic]

Feels so much better to play

Tier set lowkey feels like how slayer should have played all expac but you know it’s all good

We got there

[marble pilot]

I still think these tiersets are rough attempts at midnights hero talents. If we like em then they become part of what we get baseline

This week is furys week right. Cope

[fading sky]

Tuning inc

[marble pilot]

Thane toer set nerfed. Stop playing it its only there cause it looks good we dont want youto actually play it

[red berry]

this tuesday we'll get changes

[signal falcon]

It’s nice to have Execute feel worth pressing as Fury for sure

[fading sky]

At least as slayer

[marble pilot]

I dont know if its cause execute is good or just cause the procs it gives cause tierset are

[fading sky]

Execute need to be bis

[earnest canyon]

id like slayer more if you didnt need to build stacks/had conditions

[marble pilot]

Its less bad that execute becomes send it. Still have bloodthirst conditions but so does thane

[earnest canyon]

slayer just feels clunky to me, idk

thane i just press buttons

[marble pilot]

I think I understand. Double audio wa is kinda lame. But in season 3 I think its just the bloodthirst one. Which thane still uses as well.

[earnest canyon]

its the same reason I dont like arms: clunky (to me)

[high echo]

Slayer Arms is OK

But Colo is soo clunky

[summer quail]

i actually think slayer arms is the clunky one. everything revolves around maintaining jugg

colossus you just press buttons

[compact knot]

^^^^

colossus is way better

in everything

just worse numbers sadly

[slim coral]

Warriors needs god

Take SS off the gcd

[compact knot]

also for some strange reason SS still gets removed on boss pull

and it was NOT like that prior to the .5 patch

[sick pagoda]

[gleaming siren]

Anda when are you installing horse girl gacha

Demolish randomly not working on so many forced movement effects is making me want to altf4 every time btw

[clever belfry]

i will not

i dont even know what the gameplay is

but i will not

@gleaming siren how about u open it on steam

i bought a funny emote from the points store to send to people playing it

[gleaming siren]

I will start something else on steam

[clever belfry]

7777777777

[gleaming siren]

you gifted me this game yknow

[clever belfry]

did i

i forgot

[gleaming siren]

yea

[clever belfry]

well hop in voice and stream it or

[undone flower]

Can you gamble on the races?

[clever belfry]

who in here would know this

any knowers who would know

[gleaming siren]

@sullen dove

[undone flower]

I thought Schmidi is a pro horse girl racer

[clever belfry]

i dont think he has played it

[gleaming siren]

my Twitter timeline is full of Gold Ship content

[slim coral]

Dates confirmed

Whenever said the 19th get owned

[modest condor]

it's been pretty obvious it was gonna be early august for a long time now

[restive saffron]

hi

[slim coral]

Yeah but I have idiots telling me it’s not

Plus there’s others in this discord who claimed I was clueless

[restive saffron]

so are u guys running slayer or mountain thane?

ive been away for a season so idk which oneto choose

[modest condor]

slayer in raid thane in m+

[glad coyote]

been running thane in m+ but every so often i'll run slater cause its fun

[restive saffron]

got it

first ranked in raider io was running slayer in M+ so that got me questioning it

thanks

[modest condor]

he definitely isnt

[summer quail]

Must have logged out as slayer

[modest condor]

^

[restive saffron]

so its not close

alright ill run the mountain

[slim coral]

Get owned

@young swan https://x.com/method_danwarr/status/1941256650087891020?s=46&t=XuSasdmoslou2YV9HVqTmw

Dan (@Method_Danwarr)

@WarcraftDevs warrior capstones are rather poor. Odyns fury is dead. Onslaught is dead. Thunderous Roar is useless. Spear is bad. A 5 target cap is archaic and Fury doesn't even excel in this particular "niche." Thane tier set needs jesus. Please don't wait for Midnight. Help us

X · Jul 4, 2025, 10:03 PM

The bat signal is out

[olive wraith]

This week

[slim coral]

It’ll be next

Cause Dan just sent the tweet out

[glad coyote]

go dan

[indigo quarry]

dont worry blizzard wont even read it

or even acknowledge it's bad

[slim coral]

We support Dan regardless he’s our only hope

[indigo quarry]

calm down Princess Leia

they got the feedback they just dont care

as long as you need 1 warrior in each raid their are ok with it

[slim coral]

It would be funny if all this time they were working on warrior and it was some massive thing lol

[indigo quarry]

no

they are too busy working on the next power system for Midnight

[modest condor]

it better be something that can be abbreviated to ap

[indigo quarry]

the endless grind system was at least enjoyable

[vernal laurel]

Bois, when is the 0.1% title cutoff? Like until what week do I have left?

[slim coral]

August 5th

I believe

Maybe a week before that

[gleaming siren]

its fine Prot is good again

[vernal laurel]

Ah ok, is it not like 2 weeks before?

[indigo quarry]

they gonna kneecap him again

[meager gyro]

warrior dev positioned filled ? not too late to throw in a rework before s3

[indigo quarry]

you can always apply

[meager gyro]

I like my job just fine

[gleaming siren]

I have a dream

[indigo quarry]

being underpaid sux anyway

[gleaming siren]

that I log into raid testing and Warrior is just fine

and it's just me being ba

[indigo quarry]

i much prefer being bad at the game so warrior is good

i trade this anyday

[gleaming siren]

im bad anyway

[heavy galleon]

1 month release and we are still without news for warrior

[indigo quarry]

dont worry nothing will happen

aura tuning and its gucci

[heavy galleon]

that's why I'll just afk this trash season again

[red berry]

maybe we will get capstones that mean something

[cosmic sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/willy-wonka-and-the-chocolate-factory-gene-wilder-willy-wonka-you-get-nothing-nothing-gif-5432076

[quiet breach]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/the-war-within-season-3-arrives-on-august-5th-same-day-as-patch-11-2-377660?utm_source=discord-webhook

[oblique thistle]

S3 hype! Can't wait to play the W class next season! (Warlock)

[echo rapids]

I can’t imagine playing a pure damage class

Do the queues not make you crazy?

[indigo quarry]

the superior war spec is warlock anyway

why you guys playing furey

[summer quail]

i'm mentally ill

[gleaming siren]

Because I was the only one willing and able to level and gear a warrior on short notice in S1

that's the lore

[oblique thistle]

Not as crazy as sitting in queue as a Fury warrior in DF for multiple seasons in a row

At least I bring health stones and a battle Rez lol

[sullen dove]

Am not horse connoisseur have a friend who plays it a lot tho

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-day-are-you-ready-for-some-football-gif-16278812894835706568

[gleaming siren]

sure

What is your favourite uma musume swordish

[undone flower]

I did bet for 20 (EU) so 19 for NA

[echo rapids]

Just go all the way then and play Mage, the good caster

Its wows main character anyway