fury

[south kayak]

First time?

[hardy bluff]

all s1 nerfs have been reverted besides the of avatar thing

[jolly marten]

they nerfed fury warrior season 1 based on heroic perfomance without tier set.. they would never have done this to a mage spec 🙂

[heavy galleon]

DF talent just create more probleme than solution

[south kayak]

The big nerf wasn't the issue, it's 5 target cap

even in s1

[hardy bluff]

that is true

[south kayak]

our damage went down after using cds

[warm crag]

you are very slightly understating how good fury was back then

[heavy galleon]

I don't want to be tier S and played by all meta slave

[south kayak]

Good, because that's never happening with fury

[heavy galleon]

But I just want to do decent AoE damage, without a bad target cap

[south kayak]

Too bad

Blizzard doesn't want you to do that

They want you to hit 5 targets while most specs hit all of them

[heavy galleon]

and not being a trasqh for my party

[south kayak]

play something else

I don't like doing damage to few targets while everyone in the group is doing them to more than 5 so I just rerolled

[heavy galleon]

I don't wanna reroll, other spec are boring !

[south kayak]

Fury is my favorite spec but the damage is higher prio for me than feel, especially if its this bad idk

[heavy galleon]

I just keep hope someday they will change thing, But I know that will not happen for TWW

Keep a eyes on Midnight

[jolly marten]

tell me.. was it better that fire mage in BFA? cause mage stayed pretty strong

[south kayak]

He's talking about s1 fury, no?

not BfA

and fury was pretty much close to meta in bfa in some season

idk which one

[heavy galleon]

I remeber when we spam WW after Bladestorm for SL

1st time we feel no cap target xD

[jolly marten]

im saying when a mage i super strong they dont nerf it to the ground like they did with fury in s1

mage, shamans, paladins.. thats their favourite children

they dont panic dat much when they are broken op

[hardy bluff]

dont play then if you think they have it out for you

[south kayak]

They do and I'm not

[fast mural]

paladin ?

[hardy bluff]

baseg

[south kayak]

I played enha last season and now im playing devoker

dunno what now

[warm crag]

idk ye it probably wouldve been very good in m+ its still just a melee and never can really compete with ranged design wise

[jolly marten]

i understand very well how strong fury was.. but tuning it its one thing and making it unplayble in m+ its another thing

[warm crag]

unplayable by what metric

you can time top percentile keys as any spec at any given point in time you will just not be able to time the highest keys with like 80% of specs

[hardy bluff]

monk is fun

played it this season

[south kayak]

Nice, WW?

[hardy bluff]

yea

new set is cool if you like slicing winds

[south kayak]

I would play WW but it's also 5 target capped, kinda

I ain't going from 5 to 5 lol

[jolly marten]

by Critcakes metric saying that he feels like hes being carried from his team

[warm crag]

very scientific

[jolly marten]

on other news i dont feel the slayers tier set for fury.. it seems like its heavily focused on execute and furys execute hit like wet noodles.. its more fitting for Arms since you can synergize more with talents

[south kayak]

It does not hit like wet noodles

Especially not with that set, where it procs Slayer's Strikes

SD executes go hard with that set

[jolly marten]

yeah you would press it but you cant synergize it with other skills-talents as Arm can

juggernaut aint as strong as arms and arms can synergize it with MS

also has talents that adds more crit dmg etc etc

[south kayak]

People do not like Arms' Juggernaut

and for good reasons

You don't want that for fury

Fury's Juggernaut is not good but Arms is too much rng

[past lance]

Fury UI

[south kayak]

Wouldn't it be better if the player frame lined up with the WA?

It's a little up

[left pasture]

Hello guys, what is the best héroique talent in PTR salyer or Mouthain thane ?

[south kayak]

Slayer is doing better but that's because thane's set does 0 dps

[past lance]

Yea I haven’t switched to slayer talents yet.

I’m still in a mythic + thane talent line

Gonna have to learn a new rotation.

[left pasture]

What is the talent for slayer ?

[past lance]

Ummm 🤔 I’m not sure they talent trees are pretty complex this expansion

But u can find them online

[left pasture]

can you give me your talents code?

[past lance]

Here

[left pasture]

PV

[past lance]

https://u.gg/wow/fury/warrior/builds/raid?hero=slayer this is the slayer raiding build

[left pasture]

pls

Thx ^^

[past lance]

I am using a mythic + build which can be found on the same site

[left pasture]

You dont use Whirlwind ?

[eternal sundial]

raid = st

otherwise ppl use aoe builds so check aoe padlord bosses

[dense elbow]

Move the VC talents to meatcleaver. You want to keep AJ on the PTR for obvious reasons. Then you got a m+ able build

[left pasture]

Okey and what is the priority of spells?

[remote veldt]

Someone know if we get more data/UP from the new 4P in season 3 ? Someone was sending a +15 screen w the effect doing less damage than spell reflect few days ago

[summer quail]

no one knows. if thane set goes live like this then thane is doa

[south kayak]

Good thing it's not

right

[summer quail]

[remote veldt]

They wanna reverse the season 1, we start doomed to be up to the top, that's all...right ?

[eternal sundial]

die thane die

[remote veldt]

[eternal sundial]

last time i recall smth like that

was wowhead putting arms d tier in s2 sl

which is like

5 years ago

[remote bobcat]

thane is so shit

the more i look at it

the worse it gets

[remote veldt]

You need to die to be in Valhalla, blizz is just helping us to rush the class domain more fast

[remote bobcat]

the more i check stuff

the worse it gets

[south kayak]

I wouldn't be surpried if thane is the worst set rn

[remote bobcat]

thane is so shit

It is incredible just how shit it is

[south kayak]

Some dev thinking they cooked with this tuning

ICANT

[summer quail]

i can't imagine anything being worse. it's somehow weaker than df s1

[south kayak]

.1% dps probably

[remote veldt]

Waiting the dev who was making the pal fresh to put a finger on the warrior

[south kayak]

how do you even put this shit out

and not realize how bad it is

the devs don't even test the shit they make

If anyone tested this before it came out on ptr, they'd just know it's horrible

[remote veldt]

They remove the limb of DK because it's not good in raid, they are fucking casual doing LFR what did u expect

[eternal sundial]

its ok for devs to tell u what spec they want u to play

and thats what thane set is

[remote veldt]

I don't think there is a single dev curved in heroic

or w 3k

[south kayak]

You don't need to have that to be a dev lol

[eternal sundial]

ion gets ce every other tier

[south kayak]

or even play the game

[remote veldt]

This is the point, they don't play the game and make dev things blind

I'm even surprise by the season 3 w the biggest boss ever made after getting the "too much weakaura and addons"

[eternal sundial]

size = addon requirement

gotcha

[south kayak]

the bigger the boss is

the less fps you have

[remote veldt]

Because you think it's gonna be easy to play it ?

[eternal sundial]

itll be any other endboss

[south kayak]

It wont be but that's not the reason

[eternal sundial]

its size doesnt affect its need for addons

[south kayak]

yeah

and we're still using WAs

[remote bobcat]

we are even more reliant on it now than before as slayer, too

[south kayak]

So it's not like they're going to make everything less complicated with them still on

[remote bobcat]

cause we have even less tolerance at wasting MFE

[jolly marten]

they didnt even did a dummy test for the tier set

[eternal sundial]

even if the sets were close youd play the one that does more damage

[jolly marten]

and even after the release you see how quick and how much mages are in the patch notes

[south kayak]

100% not

[eternal sundial]

mages affect our tierset ✍️

[jolly marten]

yes they do.. cause they do much more work on them than to fix ours

[south kayak]

Real and true

[eternal sundial]

ptr dooming is a special kind of brainrot

every single tier

[dense elbow]

I mean, after this season in particular

you can allow some dooming

[jolly marten]

we are accused as doomers cause you know.. its not like blizz thinks warriors are in a good spot.. they dont mentioned it many times

[remote bobcat]

imma be real tho, im kinda down for a slayer m+ season where we spam reap perma

did raging blow reap get changed yet?

[summer quail]

ofc it didn't

[jolly marten]

ive tested and it doesnt proc as much often as we will wanted

[summer quail]

yea coz it's max 20% per rb

[dense elbow]

I am still living in copiumville, that if they keep the (4) reap proc shit thing, it will at least be efficent... as such will work as current BT reaps.

[jolly marten]

yes,. and in raid its easy to keep overwhealm, in keys it fall off easily

[dense elbow]

Its such a bad tierset (4) holey

[summer quail]

even in raid it being 20% instead of scaling with targets is bad. i didn't see all fights during yesterdays test but the 2 i did was multitarget

[dense elbow]

My biggest fear? That they balance the (4) around making the reap a 200-500% hit, instead of increasing the proc chance

[summer quail]

that's your biggest fear? not them making bt flat%? so it's "fixed"

[dense elbow]

The prayer to reap RNG during bladestorm is already more than enough 20% hit RNG for a lifetime

BT flat too, I mean sure - why not?

Then I dont need to press BT on AoE either

Embrace the RB meta blizz dream

[remote bobcat]

bro funky gallywix myth parsing is so hard when u have people perma proccing reap on all the add spawns

[summer quail]

i don't even think you do in s3 anyway. pick like no bt talents

[remote bobcat]

[dense elbow]

Its going to be hard to justify a loboz like build, if the (4) remains a pure RB boost, that is for sure

[remote bobcat]

i agree

[jolly marten]

i dont understand why Arms slayers can also proc Reap the storms from cleave but fury only from BT

[dense elbow]

Cause fuck fury, that is why

[fast mural]

Is reap target capped?

[dense elbow]

You think the coming tier (4) was made with Fury in mind?

[fast mural]

No

[dense elbow]

No, it was made for arms

[fast mural]

It's with slayer in mind

[dense elbow]

Pftz, doubt that

[jolly marten]

its 8capped

[fast mural]

Can't have fury accessing that

Except capping it at 5

[jolly marten]

here and there are some minor little changes that will make fury a little better.. but no, lets have 2 pages of patch notes just for mages only

[summer quail]

8 softcap, very big difference from 8 hardcap

[jolly marten]

i didnt mean hardcapped

[summer quail]

ye just making sure

[dense elbow]

Its fair of mutou to clearify it, for anyone that isnt aware of how cap term was used in context

[summer quail]

only non capped ability fury has is roar

[dense elbow]

Initial hit is cap'd, wdum

[summer quail]

tho i guess you can be pedantic and say the initial part is capped

[dense elbow]

:(

[summer quail]

lmao

[dense elbow]

Is the spear tether cap'd?

[summer quail]

too fast for you

[summer quail]

wtff server tick

[dense elbow]

[south kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/blackbeard-blackbeard-writing-taking-notes-writing-gif-17583038544116987898

[dense elbow]

Meh, I just hope that the next round they do on Fury will fix Thande AND Slayer so I get to be hyped

[south kayak]

[fast mural]

Does thane tier work now?

[south kayak]

it works

that's not the problem

its just bad

[dense elbow]

we gonna need nerfs, I see it coming

We are far too close to MM hunter

[jolly marten]

demolish arms is even closer

[south kayak]

you are cooked

[jolly marten]

warriors seem to do some damag.... NERF NERF NERF NERF

[dense elbow]

Thane Fury

[summer quail]

it has never not worked

[south kayak]

.40% damage

[dense elbow]

I smell a giga buff inc

[summer quail]

would have to be the biggest% increase a tierset has ever gotten

[jolly marten]

if he had some better spell reflections it will surpass tier set dmg

[dense elbow]

Tier got beaten by the dam portion of sacbrood

nuff said

[jolly marten]

i also want you to know that the ionizing strikes are buffed by 50% from the 4set.. think what dmg they will do when we have only 2set

😄

[dense elbow]

Well, ilvl is our DPS increase

as we scale with gear

[south kayak]

50% of 0 is 0

[remote bobcat]

istg ionizing strike buff is gonna be like fucking 500% of some shit

like they are soooo far off

its ridiculous

[dense elbow]

Maybe they add an after effect

So when things are ionized, they take 500% more damage from Odyns Fury

[remote bobcat]

it's entire from the set piece right

so they cant rly make many talent interactions

[earnest canyon]

every class does though?

[dense elbow]

Did I stutter? WE SCALE with GEAR

God damned trolls in this server

[earnest canyon]

i was thinking of classic where warrior was extremely painful to level, but once you got in end game gear, you were miles ahead of everyone except frost mages in MC

[limber oar]

Ionizing strikes is just a poorly thought out tier set

35% chance to proc on tblast (which is inherently rng to get as well) and then a 20% rng proc per strike against a unique target to get another tblast

[south kayak]

It needs the proc chance buff too, 500% won't be enough if it barely procs

[limber oar]

Like dmg aside its just wildly inconsistent

[south kayak]

I think they should incerase the proc change to like 70% or something, or make both TC And TB proc it instead of just TB

[marble pilot]

It'll change.. No shot they let a tier set to though that does 0.3%dps. ...
Right?

[limber oar]

I think they need to add some kind of raw dmg increase to a non-rng ability/tblast

On top of dmg to ionizing strikes and inc proc chance

[remote bobcat]

fuck it buff proc rate by 500% too

then it will be "okay"

not even good

but it will be okay

[jolly marten]

at least demolish and slayers tier set seem kinda legit

[remote bobcat]

colossus

is chill

but everyone is scared of sks

cause it sucks to press sks

[jolly marten]

they will.. im sure they will.. im just afraid that it will be a last minute bandage fix that it wont matter

guys do you remember how bad was the tier set for fury season1?

and it had to be like how many weeks, 2-3?

to make it slightly better

[marble pilot]

I'm still hopeful that we get changes in the next week or two. There was that hint towards utility but nothing on what it actually would be. Or if it will really show up at start of season 3

[jolly marten]

i wont be suprised seeing thanes tier set passed as a dogshit tier set only to get buffed a few weeks later to make it kinda ok meh

[remote bobcat]

the only reason it was bad bad is because raging blow and bloodthirst kinda sucked while bb and cb was insanely strong

like

s1 set piece isnt even that bad

at least the 4set isnt

the 2set kinda sucks

it just didnt synergize with old RA

[marble pilot]

Does slayer tier set still use a ton of execute conditionals? Or is it more or less send execute when sudden death procs?

[jolly marten]

whatever the reason it was super bad and we launched with a super bad tier set

[remote bobcat]

it uses them just as much as in season 2

but they trigger more often

so they are more relevant to track

[remote bobcat]

it was bad because raging blow and bt sucked

they buffed our base spells by a billion % going into season 2

[marble pilot]

So let the weak aura do its thing. But be prepared to click it more often.

[south kayak]

60% something lol

[remote bobcat]

yea

[remote bobcat]

yea this is probably what its gonna end up being

but not only does it trigger more often, execute actually hits hard now

so do with that what u will

[marble pilot]

Also the slayer strike proc chance. Might be worth sending on cd just to fish. Unless you still need to stall slightly for ashen jugg timer.

[remote bobcat]

?

listen mate

people are working on an apl

it will have conditionals

those trigger a weakaura

we listen to weakaura

the conditionals might change ab it

but the idea stays the same

[marble pilot]

Yeah. Just thinking about it. I'm sure it'll come down to click when weak aura says

Just woke up and working on coffee. The brain isn't all there yet. Not that it ever peaks very high

[remote bobcat]

I'd argue there's an argument to stack overwhelmed asap

but beyond that?

just click at 2x sd

3x mfe

aj falling

sd falling

type shii

there might be an optimization where you bladestorm start of reck ava window into execute shit into bladestorm end of reck ava window

like unironically

but my guess is that it's something that will come to us randomly and its our job to recognize it but there wont be a way to game it

[cosmic sundial]

@remote bobcat

[remote bobcat]

hi

[cosmic sundial]

How’s you doing homie

[remote bobcat]

okayish

still no mcap

6 weeks in

so im just not allowed to do dam

COPIUM

[cosmic sundial]

Ya hate to see it

[remote bobcat]

im getting taunted by my raid

cuz no m cap drops

week after week

[cosmic sundial]

Soon ™️

[remote bobcat]

shrugeg

[cosmic sundial]

It drops this next week

Bet

[remote bobcat]

i recleared this week

i got rank10 myth

which is cool

but i didnt get mcap

so does it really matter?

probably not

welp imma go take a shower now im meeting friends, enjoying the summer time

take care

[finite pewter]

WHat belt buff using in M+? is there a thread?

[meager hound]

#updates-midnight message

[modest hollow]

is there a better alternative to Charged bolts?

[meager hound]

#updates-midnight message

[sullen tendon]

so when are the ptr fury updates coming out

[undone flower]

ilvl is our buff

[charred estuary]

The fact that this is still the case is so incredibly lame

At this point it's not enough to nerf raging blow interactions i want the spell renamed to something else too

Just delete it

[eternal sundial]

Mop warrior will be ok

And fury is dogshit for all but 1 tier

Heaven

[south kayak]

I don’t know if that’s true considering they buffed Enrage uptime

[slim coral]

Fury gonna get buffed dont worry

[fluid pollen]

😂

Yeah yall doomin too much. Fury is fine and will be fine next patch

It just needs to tuned up a bit given the target ca

Cap

[mossy fox]

^ ping me when that happens

[red berry]

it is concerning they havent done any work yet thats public but whoever works on the class might be working hard in the kitchen

third week PTR this tuesday, yeah?

[modest condor]

the fact that thane tierset got no buffs at all this week at least gives me hope that they're working on a rework

[whole yacht]

😂

[modest condor]

@honest sundial nice priory

[slim coral]

I got you bud

[honest sundial]

very fast

r1 timer

[tepid cedar]

@whole yacht is a traitor....... his tan color is green somehow!!!!

[whole yacht]

WHOA

its a glitch

[tepid cedar]

BTM 14 priory lol really dont think ppl know how to interrupt and stun

[whole yacht]

its me, im people

[modest condor]

it's a 14

at this point in the season you'll be lucky to find people that have all their abilities bound at that keylevel

[whole yacht]

lol

[tepid cedar]

bro a 14 btm feels like a 17 lolol

[modest condor]

im pretty sure that's not just because it's btm

[whole yacht]

what you tryna say silm

[tepid cedar]

combination of shit clasees. ppl playing specs they never play, and routes meant for aoe classes in most target capped shyte dps

100% btm fault

lolz

[modest condor]

im tryna say that the specs are not the thing making a +14 feel difficult when playing btm

you can 2chest 14s with triple fury warrior

[burnt oxide]

now i wanna do a key with 3 fury, 1 prot and monk heal

[olive wraith]

Might be better with 2 prot

[flat river]

do people still play mountain thane on stix

even after bladestorm buffs

[winter shoal]

I do eyah

[hardy bluff]

some evoker or hunter will oneshot adds anyway and steal all dam

[earnest canyon]

I like fury, but my MM hunter is on a diff level, and is ranged

[plush zephyr]

53!?!

I’ve done 41 and I thought that was a lot holy shit

[fickle cedar]

i mean they also buffed so its still pretty gucci

[formal ravine]

Are they though?

[whole yacht]

who knoiws

[heavy galleon]

for slayer AoE, BT is better than RB ?

[flat river]

if it's 3+ targets i use BT

for the reap proc

if 2/1 target go RB

[slim coral]

I BT in 5+

[sullen dove]

bt on 1

[whole yacht]

bt always

[slim coral]

gz on your gally kill

when are you starting your Instant dollars trial

[flat river]

les goooo

i gapped everyone on my first heroic boost run

😎

[sullen dove]

69 minutes

[marble pilot]

Man im bad I just BT when the WA says to

Though I usually play thane in m+ which uses it more often anyway

[modest condor]

ironically until the most recent buff to tb (and the seismic bug), slayer used bt earlier on aoe than thane

[marble pilot]

Oh I believe it. Aoe for me is generally ww/tblast for cleaver. Then rampage for enrage>tblast>rampage Then I fill with rb or bt depending on what wa says.
I find for thane though im often on cd for rb and bt so I just send an early tclap into rampage.

[undone flower]

I had a hard time to maintain enrage in the ptr raid of retail smh

ping was 2x higher than my gcd

[burnt oxide]

if you are from eu, the ptr is just awful to play with the constant high ping

[undone flower]

It is fine-ish at 150-200

But you go over 1000 yes it is unplayable idk why the dh council was the worst for my ping

[sullen tendon]

They need to start actually saying what the internal cool downs of procs are or setting actual numbers for them. Saying x procs per minute doesn’t explain much and pacemaker has proved that they can do set procs. Knowing you can use 3 tb procs from bt every minute would be more useful than saying “eh it may proc? Why not try bt again to see”

It’s not fun when the button you press for proc doesn’t feel good

If it was rb it would be better because you’re always going to press rb but tying it to bt just feels like and excuse to make people press it instead of never pressing it because rb exists

[summer quail]

idk, if you guarantee proc everything then it doesn't feel as good

[sullen tendon]

You don’t

You can go entire pulls in m+ where bt doesn’t proc tb

It’s not guaranteed

It’s just insinuated that you may get a proc

[summer quail]

i was referring to your pracemaker comment

pacemaker

[sullen tendon]

Oh what do you mean

Rng feels dog shit unless it causes you to do insane damage every now and then

[summer quail]

i mean when the proc is guaranteed to happen it's not really a "proc" anymore it's just a mini cd

[sullen tendon]

It’s why people liked wind fury in classic

You just had a chance to anihilate someone

But tb really isn’t that impactful of a proc

You’re already spamming it it’s just you need to hit a button that you don’t want to to proc it

[summer quail]

yea getting procs to feel impactful and not feel awful when you don't get the proc is hard to balance

[sullen tendon]

I guess it’s not the proc problem and more a fury problem in that all of our talents are tied to rb and bt

You have to hit rb cause talents make it super strong but you want to hit bt becusee it extends enrage and give tb blasts

But like what if spamming thunderclap just had a chance to give you rb right away that you could hit

Like the avatar one

[summer quail]

rb is a big problem(even bigger next tier slayer). bt is fine

[sullen tendon]

Bt is an iconic ability that they don’t want to modify but it needs to do something else

It doesn’t feel as good as rampage but they keep trying to make bt our giant hitting attack

Like without external modifiers and talents alone bt can crit like 5-6 mil

In execute range

Like perfect lineup bt crit

Idk why they hate rampage so much

Rampage should be the hard hitting ability

But it’s not

You just spam it enough

[median marsh]

dps numbers are jumping all around my target , as mele, its making it harder to see swirlles or stuff that i want to avoid, i saw some streams whewre it look slike there is an addon that move the numbers to the side or something like that,

anyonw knows about such thing?

this is annoying a bit

[covert blaze]

nameplate sct

[undone flower]

Yes I wish TB proc on top of TB is a mega turbo TB of death, something red with blow ups

Something that makes me say « oh yeah take that mf trash »

(I really enjoy slayer set)

The 2 piece

[red berry]

i will enjoy 4piece once it works

[undone flower]

Even if it works, I don’t find reap particularly fun to see proc

[red berry]

its not fun

but doing damage is fun

and raging blow will hit a lot harder then bloodthirst

on top of proccing reap, so

[median marsh]

tyvm!

[undone flower]

They should change the 4 set and not make reap on RB

[red berry]

idk the opportunity to proc that much more consistently is exciting to me

[undone flower]

You almost always proc reap on 5 targets

With BT

[red berry]

yes but you have to wait to slam bloodthirst

you don't have to wait to slam raging blow

[undone flower]

You really like reap

[red berry]

i like doing more damage

[undone flower]

You can be more imaginative

Than the same thing but working

[red berry]

yes but i'm not a class designer and i don't work at blizzard so i'm looking at the tierset as presented

[undone flower]

As you feel work mean

[red berry]

we've all shot in the dark about what we might be good for the class, i've shared some of my opinions in the past

like, i enjoy bleeds

and ive felt fury has been most enjoyable when built around crit

it having more crit/crit damage interactions would be a blast

in my opinion.

i really actually enjoyed BFA even if i hated azerite. CSHB did a lot of damage. it was strong. and we had a lot of crit damage via strikethrough

[undone flower]

I didn’t play lot of fury before TWW (started prot), so I don’t have lot of comparison I can do

But I enjoyed fury S1 and S2 (I mainly raid as fury), it is just tuning, the base was there in S1

[red berry]

fury S1 was honestly very fun iimo

i wish they hadn't totally shot odyns fury in the back

[quiet breach]

100k on thane are u a prot main

[red berry]

but that's a common opinion herre

[quiet breach]

or were at some point

[undone flower]

I main prot in m+, fury in raid

I can tank some bosses

[quiet breach]

how dookie dogshit is prot warrior in priory

[undone flower]

Like gally and mug two weeks ago

[undone flower]

Play better

But yeah it is a weakness of prot

[quiet breach]

nah I don't play prot lol I just saw a poddyC ep where they were talking about how ass prot is at the first boss of priory

and just dies

[undone flower]

Wouldn’t say dogshit, all tanks seem well balanced this season

[undone flower]

You have to be hyper focus as prot yeah, and need to change prio in the rotation, be perfect on def cd rotation, external calls (or dwarf, cauterize)

[alpine kiln]

The logical choice for 3rd Dinar

[mild ravine]

but like, don't we press BT on CD for aoe?

[modest condor]

mostly yeah

[undone flower]

Damn I forgot how cool it is, I need it now

[static loom]

Friendly reminder that you'll get a new cloak with 11.2

[modest condor]

what if i just dont get the new cloak?

[static loom]

Then you won't be able to do first boss in the new raid 🤷

[modest condor]

dont give in to big cloak!!

oh that's fine the last boss is the only one that matters anyway

[static loom]

Full disclosure, I have the rare cloak on all of my warriors

[fair wolf]

same talents to test m+ on ptr¨?

[static loom]

Kinda, yea

Slayer looks a lot stronger with the new tier, but Thane is still good for M+

[plush maple]

Slayers rejoice

[pulsar prawn]

oh yeah good reminder an alt has the hc version.. i upgrade that to myth EZ

[undone flower]

I did the raid with the ashen jug SD WA, the tier set is indeed satisfying

You execute and few seconds after you hear the WA again and again and again

[static loom]

I do have to say that I enjoy looking at my dmg breakdown, and seeing Execute doing over 20% of my damage, before reaching the execute phase!

[undone flower]

I don’t think the WA will be usefull really, but I’ll keep it just for the sound

[modest condor]

all it took for execute to be worth pressing was make sudden death like 3x as strong!

[undone flower]

I didn’t really look at my damage breakdown, I’m EU, I had 40% enrage uptime

I think it’s more the «  proc rate » of SD that is satisfying for me

We will not hold bs at all with this set

[flat river]

me too

[fast mural]

its probably more if you consider the guaranteed slayer strike

[frank dawn]

The time of Bloodthirst has ended. The time of Execute has come.

[flat river]

do we even take bloodthirst ST talents next season?

lol

[fast mural]

also the crit chance of execute after 5 min of target dummy is like 85-95% from my testing

[frank dawn]

I mean if you got Ashen Jugg plus marks I’m surprised it’s not 90-100 lol

[modest condor]

yeah that happens when it has like 80% bonus crit chance

[flat river]

it's 45 (3 stacks of slayer strikes) + 50 (5 stacks juggernaut)

• normal crit chance

[fast mural]

imagine a world where jugg is easy to cap cause it only has 5 stacks

[flat river]

it is easy to cap

or do u mean arms

[cosmic sundial]

I mean

With the tier wouldn’t it be easy to cap as arms

[fast mural]

ye

[flat river]

just play fury

[fast mural]

i will

i just have to hope slayer is also gonna be the m+ spec

cause i hate thane

[flat river]

i don't hate thane

but i like slayer more

[fast mural]

its mostly cause of powerful enrage

just doesnt feel as good

[flat river]

powerful enrage should be removed

and buff our enrage damage by like 5%

to compensate

[fast mural]

make the filler node that increases mastery have 5 points

[flat river]

real

and make bladestorm/ravager a 5 talent node too

idk how

but do it

[covert blaze]

1 point per spin

[flat river]

REAL

[dense fulcrum]

i will lose a lot of dps if i use council guile on bis and depths on off hand on fury? (using the crit enchant for my arms in m+)

[flat river]

sim it

[fast mural]

depends what you think alot is

[dense fulcrum]

past weeks im only using fury for raid

dunno if it changes a lot on mug zee and gally

[fast mural]

should be negligable

its only an enchant

[cobalt kernel]

anyone have a ptr raid build perhaps

[static loom]

Take the live Patchwerk build, drop 2x VC, take UF + 1/2 of the crit node

And for AoE, drop those two, and take the WW talents

[sharp bluff]

hey guys which of the guides is more up to date or that I should follow to learn fury?

[sullen tendon]

dont

[quiet geyser]

with how often we spam RB, even with low crit chance, i figured 2/2 critical thinking would be better lol

[modest condor]

wowhead

[quiet geyser]

also UF is jsut blah

[static loom]

Sure, we press RB a lot, but we also press Rampage a lot

So on average the point in UF yield better results than the crit node

[young swan]

isnt it drop vc and take the extra point in deft + crit thinking

[static loom]

I also forgot to mention we now want Opportunist. :)

[quiet geyser]

what about going double deft + crit thinking, and only 1 into swift strikes?

feel like we get haste soft capped pretty easily

[static loom]

Switf Strikes is our strongest stat node, due to the secondary effect on it

the extra rage is quite good

[quiet geyser]

ah

ill prob do 2/2 on all 3

and just drop UF lmao

HATE uf since the nerf

[undone flower]

But you need meatcleave

You can 2/2 all 3 with meatcleave ?

But it will be just sim before raid : do you take points out of deft or crit, so it’s whatever

[summer quail]

you can yeah. means no DoI THO

did not mean to have "tho" in caps but whatever

[undone flower]

You don’t take cold steel ?

[summer quail]

i mean you prob do. i just picked the shortest way to get to deft

so i could get 2 points into all

[undone flower]

So some more standard would be cold steel, dol, and out of either deft or crit (I would still leave at least 1 deft bc unhinged BT bs is nice)

BT needs to die for us to be closer to OF

[summer quail]

you get your wish next season. bt pretty dead

for slayer atleast

[undone flower]

That’s what I meant, vc points into crit, OF is less « expensive »

[quiet breach]

are we still coping about potential rework

[olive wraith]

Yes

Well a buff at least

[undone flower]

I don’t know if we do good raid damage

But if it’s the same lvl as rn, no buff needed

[sullen tendon]

It’s not longer cope it is now spite

Literally every spec in the game except for fury has gotten some improvement

Blizzard are intentionally avoiding it at this point

They are chanting animations on classes that are fine and people like for no reason

But ignore fury

Change frostscythe and erw on dk even tho the new ones are worse

Literally no reason to change those animations

But fury gets fucked

Just fucking delete the spec already

[compact knot]

u complain a lot

[sullen tendon]

I deserve to complain

Not complaining is t going to do anything

Let’s just stay stuck with the same old awful shit forever

You’re right

[plush zephyr]

[compact knot]

reworks are done poorly often

[plush zephyr]

Fury gets desolved into Demon Hunters 3rd Spec

[undone flower]

I mean, Blizzard has the ass stuck between 2 chairs with our spec

[sullen tendon]

coughs in ret pally and shadow priest

Shadow this season

Ret next season

Repeat the cycle

[undone flower]

Each tier there is a hunt rework it feels

[sullen tendon]

There is

Because they complain

[undone flower]

No bc their class is shit and they have fun just bc the set

[sullen tendon]

Fury wars are masochists

Let’s just keep being awful

[compact knot]

arcane gameplay has been changed like 6-8 times this expansion already, it has SERIOUSLY gotten worse every single time they have changed it

its incredible

[sullen tendon]

I hope blizzard removes heroic leap next

Get rid of heroic throw

Useles bloat ability

Demon hunters already stole half our abilities

[undone flower]

I would be glad if they remove heroic throw

[compact knot]

heroic throw good for prot

[sullen tendon]

They should replace all our keystone talents in fury with different options to cut off our arms legs or head

[undone flower]

1 less button to bind for planet alignement moment as fury

Anyway, I personally really enjoy fury in raid, both undermine and nerubar, so idk what to say

[sullen tendon]

This is why hunters get 4 bajillion reworks and fury gets nothing

[undone flower]

I would be mad if they changed something to be worse

[compact knot]

^^^^^^

[sullen tendon]

I wouldn’t

[compact knot]

yes you would

lol

[sullen tendon]

Thet just means they would focus on it more

Right now fury is good at nothing and bad at nothing

It’s a purgatory spec

[plush zephyr]

bobbys complaining about fury, lemme complain about lorewalkin. I'm supposed to be learning about Arthas yet im here just bitchslapping militia guards to "train them" lol

[sullen tendon]

Fix the game

[summer quail]

For arms it can't get much worse

[undone flower]

If they change the core rotation loop of fury (2 builders-rampage-meatcleave) I think I take a ticket to the US

[sullen tendon]

Ironically the spec that feels even worse to play does tons more damage than the spec that is only partially awful to play

Arms has gotten 3x more reworks than fury as well

[plush zephyr]

ig hot take: all three specs feel good

[compact knot]

i play cata arms and current retail patch arms and they play so similarly, 3x gcds inbetween each mortal strike, both rely heavily on critting, same abilities and everything

[undone flower]

Fuck arms

[summer quail]

??? It has not

[sullen tendon]

Again warriors will keep being force fed dog shit by blizzard because people have this mentality

[summer quail]

Atleast not since legion. Idk about before that

[plush zephyr]

I'm a part of the problem, hell yeah

[undone flower]

I don’t play arms but I agree, prot and fury (i raid as fury and m+ as prot) are really a success

[sullen tendon]

Arms went from being whirlwind spam and they didn’t like that so they made it overpowe spam and they didn’t like thet and now it’s cleave spam

[compact knot]

arms rotation eternally stuck in wrath of the lich king and we talking about arms receiving 3x the amount of reworks

got me sobbing

[undone flower]

For the fun loop gameplay

[dense elbow]

Bobby ranting again? My short answer is: I disagree with him
Aight, hf lados

[compact knot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401847794156961792/1377237934234796032/caption.gif

[slim pollen]

I think you just need to go do something else. You know, the whole touch grass or play something else or what ever. You don't seem to have any actual useful criticism and just wants changes to have changes and get something new 😛

[sullen tendon]

I’ve said my piece a billion times

[summer quail]

It's the same resets. Same jugg, same playstyle... just different tuned abilities

[plush zephyr]

hiiiiiiiiii funky

[dense elbow]

[plush zephyr]

same

[sullen tendon]

Theyve switched what talents proc what 40 times

[tight idol]

Honestly a brez or lust would help a lot in m+ no?

[sullen tendon]

Fury is just stuck with hit rb rampage bt hit rb rampage bt for 10 years

[plush zephyr]

LUST AND BREZ TIME LETS GO

[compact knot]

fury quite literally has not been stuck like this

[sullen tendon]

Straight up lie

[compact knot]

DF season 3 you didnt even get the option to push raging blow

LOL

like

HELLO

[summer quail]

It has been overpower tactician for 7 years now. Gonna be 8 soon

[compact knot]

raging blow wasnt even a button on your keyboard

[sullen tendon]

They were on the right track in season 3 now all they need to remove is 4 more abilities and we can finally fade into nothingness

[tight idol]

I mean it’s true tho lol

[sullen tendon]

It was the same fucking shit. Build rage spend it on rampage that’s it theres nothing else to do

Atleast you have options to spend rage in arms

[compact knot]

bro that is not a argument

im ngl

[orchid dagger]

You just took Onslaught instead lol

[undone flower]

I feel you are waiting the moment fury will be meta, crush everyone else in m+, but it will never happen

[dense elbow]

I am impressed by how when Bobby's point break beneath him as the rotten plank it always is. He always nimble to bounce to another to continue standing on his box of rotwood.

[sullen tendon]

It’s the same fucking shit no matter where you go

[summer quail]

ICANT

[sullen tendon]

St you just hit rb and br and hit rampage in aoe you just hit rb and bt and hit rampage

[compact knot]

yeah bro ive been spending rage on the same 2 abilities since tbc

XDD

[modest condor]

news flash: wow spec presses buttons

[compact knot]

^^^^

[dense elbow]

1button now tho

Git with the times

[orchid dagger]

Ye

[sullen tendon]

It’s insane that you people never want anything to change other than numbers

Tuning isn’t the problem it’s the spec itself

[slim pollen]

Ehh... no

[modest condor]

oh we do want changes

we just think your whining is boring

[compact knot]

you arent wrong man

[sullen tendon]

Literally all our abilities are glorified auto attacks

[orchid dagger]

It's a schmix. Tuning is bad, but there are a lot of other problems than just the numbers

[undone flower]

I want change, but not that deep as rework it is too much spitting in the bowl

[sullen tendon]

They sonr do anything extra

[orchid dagger]

Ok this is 80 IQ

[plush zephyr]

im having deja vu

[sullen tendon]

Like all these other specs

[undone flower]

You don’t play them

[sullen tendon]

Casting x procs a x on your target that explodes on x targets

[undone flower]

Because they are boring to you

[summer quail]

Everyone wants changes. For fury there is a risk of them fking it up as the spec is pretty fun. Arms you can do whatever, just make it from the ground up

[undone flower]

Our dogshit 10 year old gameplay

[sullen tendon]

Raging blow is literally just an auto attack you have to press

[undone flower]

Is fun, but need some refreshment

[modest condor]

this is exactly the kind of comments that makes us make fun of you

[sullen tendon]

I’m Right though

[plush zephyr]

Crazy that Details can ruin a spec for ppl

[modest condor]

ability has like 20 different interactions to the point where people complain that it has too much going on

meanwhile bobby: "it's just an auto attack"

[slim pollen]

So is every builder that any class/spec has if that's how you wanna logic it tho...

[modest condor]

ok man

[sullen tendon]

Oh yes you’re right. Half our talents go to buffing raging blow thet just makes you do more damage with it

[dense elbow]

I so want to play devils advocate. Problem is, even I got some standards

[undone flower]

Yes that’s why I agree some change is required, but not changing the core gameplay loop

[summer quail]

Except it also buffs 2 abilities and next tier it's getting a proc. It does too much

[sullen tendon]

The gameplay loop of fury is just auto attacking

[undone flower]

Like rogue

We don’t do magic

[compact knot]

every melee ever

[modest condor]

we should start saving bobby takes in a sheet or something

[plush zephyr]

Bobby, what do you like about Fury?

[sullen tendon]

We have 1 aoe ability and it doesn’t even do damage

[undone flower]

Even Hunter just shoot arrows

They cast melees sometime those noobs

[compact knot]

bladestorm is pretty good but people dont play loboz build

unfortunate for them, they are missing out on a lot of fun

[sullen tendon]

I like that I am like other warriors and am too stubborn to give up on the spec I’ve played for years.

[dense elbow]

The heck does that mean

[undone flower]

I think Blizz can pull out of 5 soft cap bs and roar, at least

[plush zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-no-way-im-out-gif-25376698

[compact knot]

nobody plays slayer in m+*

[sullen tendon]

I want fury to thrive but first I have to beat it into submission

[dense elbow]

Wow, ouch

[undone flower]

YOU ARE REAL TO ME

[compact knot]

https://tenor.com/view/bloons-when-they-see-path-gif-21628175

[dense elbow]

Ty you are the happy I need in my life

[sullen tendon]

When the fury rework comes you guys don’t have to thank me I’m just doing it for my love of the game

[modest condor]

cant wait for the 1000% thane tierset buff

(it would still be weaker than slayer tierset)

[dense elbow]

It's fine, slayer already behind baseline

[compact knot]

thunder blast casting 5000 ionizing strikes:

id maybe play thane if thunder blast did that

[modest condor]

you would crash the server every time you press thunder blast

[sullen tendon]

Just make thunder blast reset the cool down of thunder clap and itself

[compact knot]

how easy would it be to 100 parse on a boss having no fury gear and having not played it this patch

[summer quail]

next tier we will(if anyone plays fury in m+)

[modest condor]

very easy if it's a boss with pad and you set up the raid so you get all the pad

[sullen tendon]

They need to give us seismic reverbstions x2

[compact knot]

unless colossus gets changed heavily to be cringe, i dont think im switching from arms

[undone flower]

My name is for prot, I’m really hype to play the slayer set in m+, ptr ping is really too much for me

[summer quail]

lmao

[compact knot]

although im going to have to know both specs i guess for raid now

no longer in a rank 1600 guild

[bronze badge]

What is the prio for fury execute now with new tier set?

[sullen tendon]

Make thunder blast proc from thunder clap and also make casting thunderclap with avatar up cause thundering echos that hit more aoe when you cast thunder blast.

They already do this shit with unholy

[summer quail]

nah colossus is locked in for m+ atm. can't see any other hero tree being played, for both prot and arms

[sullen tendon]

Feed everything into 1 ability that’s actually useful

[undone flower]

@flat river I forgot, you found a guild ? I need some news

[dense elbow]

Basically on CD. But, things are being fixed as we speak, as the masterminds sort out the minmax APL and conditions

I will just press it as it shines, haters gonna hate

[undone flower]

Unless 2 target Mythic fight, I don’t see the need for me to learn arms

[dense elbow]

What if, mass AoE

[compact knot]

SURPRISE!!!!!!

[undone flower]

Even tho Ím not in rank 900-1000 guild anymore

[dense elbow]

We know, you are rank 100k

[compact knot]

of the 4 bosses i tested on ptr colossus arms is probably the best warrior spec on 3 of them

[undone flower]

I admit I wouldn’t play arms if it’s not enough above fury

[compact knot]

no number tunings yet though

[dense elbow]

The nine

[undone flower]

Yes but that’s a thing I know during the world first

About real fight numbers

[dense elbow]

I love when they tune around PTR impressions, internal datacrunching and HC weeks

[summer quail]

what rank you in now?

[compact knot]

37

[summer quail]

holy what a jump

[compact knot]

yeah lmao

[summer quail]

good shit gz

[undone flower]

Exactly funky, I don’t really pay attention until the RWF is done

[compact knot]

we up

[undone flower]

Thats noice khazix

I made the jump 1000 to 400-500, i do one last try in French guilds before I say sayonara to my own country on wow

[dense elbow]

Hon hon hon, you will soon join the Scandinavian branch of WoW

[modest condor]

ive only ever raided in 1 guild :)

[undone flower]

Boomer

[robust basin]

How do you use Unrelenting Onslaught correctly? It doesn't seem like every execute reduces Bladestorm. Is it on a CD? If I use it when 3 seconds are left on Sudden Death, it works all the time.

But if I use it back to back, like as a filler, it doesn't affect bladestorm

[covert blaze]

because the cdr is from consuming marked for execution

[robust basin]

Raging blow and BT take priority over Execute anyway, right? So as long as I hold Sudden Death until 4 -3 seconds it should be fine. Or unless I have 2 stacks.

[modest condor]

or when you have 3 stacks of marked

[robust basin]

Any good weak aura to track that?

[modest condor]

yes, in #dps-faq

[robust basin]

Thanks

[modest condor]

it kachings when you want to press execute

[undone flower]

But yes it is higher prio than RB and BT when this conditions are met

[robust basin]

Oh, the old DF season 2 sound? LOL

Gotta have it

[undone flower]

Above overcap rage rampage, you execute when the WA scream

The only prio above from memory is rampage for enraged

[winter shoal]

The AJ/SD exe conditions are actually above refreshing enrage

3xMFE is below refreshing enrage though

All that shit gonna change next tier anyways though so /shrug

[edgy widget]

Enrage is up so often that's purely academic, safeguarding against a situation in which you aren't enraged and don't have enough rage to use Rampage; in practice it's pretty much never a consideration

[winter shoal]

Yeah in reality I think things are more likely to pan out with someone predicting what their enrage duration/rage economy will look like in the next few gcds relative to their buff duration, and also I think even if it's theoretically optimal to have those different conditions at different prio, it's probably more practical to just simplify them all into one

I was curious how theoretically unoptimal simplifying them all into one was and uhh

literally couldn't matter less

[smoky vale]

@ all of you:
Have you read the wowhead and maxroll guides covering the rotation? Have you looked at high-ranking fury logs and

[earnest canyon]

Of course not, I press the buttons when they light up or I when i want to do the thunder stomp

[undone flower]

Button with an S ????

[winter shoal]

Bro is a fraud

[undone flower]

Since .7 I never pressed it

[smoky vale]

"What can I fix?" "Is my rotation correct?" "Why am I / my damage bad?"
These are questions that can kind of be answered by log review, but 1) it's a lot more beneficial for you to do that yourself as a learning experience, and 2) nobody has time to look at EVERYTHING in your log to get a wholistic answer to just general questions

[undone flower]

I put it on my bars, but the fact it is so gigantic circle around it, in 5 sec I removed it

[flat river]

hello everyone

[undone flower]

Good morning

[flat river]

[undone flower]

How things go with your guild ? I didn’t follow the full adventure

[flat river]

oh i left like 3 weeks ago

im in a new guild now

[undone flower]

Yes but what’s up with the new one

[flat river]

oh

well first week they let me kill 7/8m and they said i did good

but the thing is they don't trial people except on prog which is spooky

[undone flower]

It is less spooky that it seems

[flat river]

they seem like really chill people though

[undone flower]

Bc if you are in, on a prog boss, you’re not really a trial anymore

[flat river]

hmm

[undone flower]

They would bench you before ovinax

[flat river]

im guessing they would trial in heroic because they have a roster of 25 people

or they will keep swapping out people

on mythic

next season i mean

[undone flower]

25 is a regular size imo

[flat river]

little do they know i played the raid in ptr so im ready for the mechanics

[undone flower]

5th healer just in case, some other specs for boss damage profile

[undone flower]

I did too the ptr with my new guild, it was interesting…. first time I don’t go as « casual » in raid test

[flat river]

they didnt do ptr testing the guild

i pugged it

we reached the DH's and we cracked

xD

[undone flower]

DHs enrage is kinda crazy

[flat river]

also they die very slowly

[undone flower]

They spam all 3 intermissions until you die or they die

[flat river]

xd

[undone flower]

Slowly with 4000 ping

[flat river]

idk i have 200 ping

and im used to high ping lol

[undone flower]

I was doing 2 m dps

[flat river]

i used to play with 250 ping back in the day in dota 2

i had 2 megabit internet (200kb download speed) and there was like a period of time where dota 2 servers were bugged and didn't work in some regions

so i had to use a vpn

[undone flower]

I had 200 ping on the forgeweaver and walls boss

[flat river]

i had 200 ping throughout

but the game froze on 2 different pulls

so i lost dps

[undone flower]

Yeah it was just the DHs with 4000 and the dragon with 800

[flat river]

bro MM hunters deal so much damage

in MT and ST

it's stupid

[undone flower]

On live too

[flat river]

on live we can catchup in ST

on ptr no

[undone flower]

I wouldn’t know, it was hard to maintain enrage

[flat river]

lmao

thats the reason i kept the 2 points in BT extends enrage lol

so when i bladestorm the enrage doesn't drop

XD

[undone flower]

Yeah on a pull of DH, one go in the middle, I spam leap out to dodge, I get roll backed in the middle, animation of leap, but still dead

[flat river]

xd

watch them buff MM and they nerf fury because we're second on meters "sometimes"

our ST in keys is lowkey huge though

[undone flower]

But for now I’m kinda relieved on damage profiles of the bosses

[signal abyss]

hey, the guide says to use avatar and recklessness together, but the cooldowns are not in sync. is it just for opener?

(with anger management)

[flat river]

i like our damage in keys

but i wish

raging blow increased chance with cleave

to proc reap

[undone flower]

They will desync but with class tree capstone, when you avatar you get reck and vis verca

[flat river]

it's for opener mostly

but they do desync yes

[undone flower]

^

[signal abyss]

right, thanks!

[flat river]

mid-pull it doesn't matter because when you use one you get 8 seconds of the other from a talent

forgot the name

[undone flower]

Class tree capstone berserker something

[flat river]

its a torment

but i dont think it's berserker

[undone flower]

It’s not berserker torment ?

[flat river]

oh it is

mb

[undone flower]

I deserve my croissant

[flat river]

🥐

[cosmic sundial]

I mean one of you said berserk and the other said torment

Split the croissant in half

https://tenor.com/view/quaso-croissant-cat-french-gif-8533456335186036682

[undone flower]

https://tenor.com/view/saber-berserker-gif-22179452

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/zenitsu-demon-slayer-slash-flash-thunderclap-and-flash-gif-16768871

[meager gyro]

day 10 of checking discord to see if scaly, furry warrior has been reworked

[flat river]

never check again it ain't happenin buddy

[undone flower]

Only check Wednesdays and fridays, Blizzard only work on those days

And, ain’t happening yes

[undone flower]

It reminded me it’s the same studio for the two anime

[flat river]

thats why the animation is peak

[undone flower]

It is my opinion, ufotable is the studio for fight animes

[flat river]

yessir

best animation in my opinion

for fight scenes

[undone flower]

Mappa is strange sometime, I guess they have sub-studios

[flat river]

maybe

[undone flower]

Bc they solo made me not continue snk

Still haven’t watch after part 1

[flat river]

what is that sentence

[undone flower]

The animation was so off, so I didn’t care to follow snk anymore

I follow snk since the author stop drawing seggs anime

[flat river]

oh

i stopped because he stopped

jk xD

[tawdry sage]

What happened to us bro. Season 1 week 1 rubarb palace we were on top. Look at what they did to us..this channel is 90% anime

[undone flower]

It was 3 days of nerubar

Not worth calling an Era, we are the top dogs

Uwu

[flat river]

nothing else other than 90% off-topic, 8% dooming/copium, and 2% questions about fury

if we stopped off-topic its 98% dooming/copium

[undone flower]

2% of fury bc it didn’t need much

what’s new next season ?

[flat river]

tier set.

[narrow narwhal]

How's banezi's anime woman pfp game been

[tawdry sage]

Anime beats dooming 100%. The best anime is orb btw

[flat river]

nope

[tawdry sage]

Yuri on ice?

[undone flower]

YAS

[flat river]

this is the objectivly top 5 anime list

[undone flower]

Nop

[flat river]

already been made buddy

[young swan]

solo leveling anywhere near the top 50 is a disgusting crime

[undone flower]

In no world Naruto is a top anime

[tawdry sage]

Frieren slaps

[flat river]

it's objectivly the top 5 fym

[meager gyro]

this spec would be so good if they just remove WW stacks, buff WW and give it a CD, and make rampage a major cooldown instead of rage spender

[young swan]

same with demon slayer

has no business anywhere close to top 10

[undone flower]

There is no objectivity in art

[earnest canyon]

legend of the galactic heroes and hikaru no go are top tier

[young swan]

[undone flower]

Pups wanted to reply to gala

[flat river]

xd

[meager gyro]

my weekly cook allowance Xan

[flat river]

anything else below that top 5 is subjective

[undone flower]

One punch man is not a top anime

Season 2

Just need to say that

[young swan]

solo leveling is power fantasy slop that yoinks its ideas from hxh

[flat river]

it's objective why are we still talking about this

[undone flower]

Don’t use authority argument

[flat river]

[undone flower]

You know Naruto is not 1.

[young swan]

naruto being 1 is not the issue with that list

[undone flower]

When you can stop the anime at episode 100 while there is 200

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/weebs-out-weebs-out-get-out-of-here-anime-gif-16815896

[undone flower]

Even Samurai Champloo is not top bc of that mf weird filler episode

[flat river]

madara vs guy sensei is the best fight scene in anime history

[undone flower]

Yes but half the anime is garbage

[flat river]

that is subjective

the list is objective

i win

[undone flower]

If you need to play 100h a game to be good, sorry the game is ass

I will have to waste the next 2 h of my time on tiermaker now

[flat river]

lmao

wait send the link i wanna make my own subjective tier list

@undone flower

[undone flower]

Give me 10 min, I have to find the 4000 anime one

[indigo quarry]

weeb people and their tier lists

:smh: my head

[flat river]

shake my head my head?

xd

[flat river]

aight ill go take a shower then

[undone flower]

Anime tier list brain damage poisoned gaming I agree

[young swan]

theres no way ur counting filler

[undone flower]

Im counting filler

[flat river]

lowkey tenten tsukuyomi filler was a banger

[young swan]

why would u ever count filler

[undone flower]

Bc it’s in the anime

[young swan]

u can just not watch it