fury

[slim coral]

And turns them into void bubbles

[modest condor]

killed about 20 mobs before i got bored and nothing happened

[smoky vale]

that guy perma does it to me 😦

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/dono-wall-talking-wall-bricks-gif-17741481

[slim coral]

Void bubbles

[smoky vale]

[quiet geyser]

Bazed go kill 1000mobs plz

And report back 🙂

[modest condor]

yeah no im not talking about that obviously

[slim coral]

[slim coral]

yeha I mean idk would be weird for the weapon to end up doing nothing but if it does end up being nothing then oh well

[quiet geyser]

I mean the raid journal has 2 other str 2her weapons already (both normal)

Usually there's never more than 2

A legit meme item???

Actually i lied this current raid has 3

[lean heart]

what if the void dust from the mace interact with this i doubt it but

[hoary agate]

Damn big arms execute spymaster trinket

[sullen dove]

razor coral

Same cd as beacon to beyond I think for max value

10 15 times like 2:30

For 46k ish strength

Can line with 3 mins ig if there’s no good 90s on use

[smoky vale]

or just press at 30s and align

[winter shoal]

I feel like you just send every 90s even if it's not max stacks

[sullen dove]

Yea prolly fine too

[winter shoal]

Esp if we end up playing RA

[sullen dove]

27k strength

Kind of a lot

We got like 90k rn

So prolly like 15-20% of normal strength next season

[winter shoal]

This is on ptr at 701 with new tier

[final eagle]

what if you consume bosses from raid and the weap evolves, like Jaithys on SL

[lean heart]

[tepid cedar]

if only strenght was good for us

lol

[foggy pine]

hi guys my sims says that circe is still the best ring I have to use but is this a bug or no?

[remote bobcat]

not a bug

thankfully cyrces isnt as good on arms

[winter shoal]

5min dummy test as slayer: just over 3m
as thane: 2.3m

Send this shit back to the kitchen

[remote bobcat]

bigbowwl hop on xantagas stream, hes testing a reckless abandon crushing blow+exe spam build

[winter shoal]

Can't, watching basketball

[remote bobcat]

hovering 3.14mil over 15 mins rn

17mins actually

[lean heart]

yeh i was thinking if CB/RB is gonna crank maybe we play RA

[slim coral]

he told me RA was dead

[remote bobcat]

i mean yea it was 100k behind from his personal testing with frenzied enrage

hes trying pwoerful enrage now

with RA

[quiet breach]

mugzee dead

[remote bobcat]

good shit mate

gally dead next week

Prayge

if u take longer than a week imma be madge

[flat river]

do u think MT or Slayer will be meta for m+ next season

[remote bobcat]

i personally think reap is the way if they change how RB reap works

but if they dont change it then its gonna be MT for sure

[flat river]

change it how

[remote bobcat]

RB reap is flat 20% regardless of target count

BT reap isnt

BT reap gets increased odds

so if they make RB reap function like BT reap

stonks go up

[flat river]

actually?

i thought BT reap was flat 20%

or is it 20% per target hit

[remote bobcat]

@modest condor how did it work again?

i dont remember the details

been playing too much arms

[modest condor]

bt is 20% per target

rb is just 20% regardless

[flat river]

i see

[remote bobcat]

based on meatcleaver right?

[modest condor]

how else are you gonna hit extra targets?

[remote bobcat]

i mean there might be some magical fuckin

background tracking

of target count

[flat river]

guys there is still hope for fury changes

[undone flower]

You didn’t notice it almost always on AoE

[flat river]

true

[remote bobcat]

no fucking shot powerful enrage + RA test gave very similar results to AM build

its cooked

[flat river]

they should also buff execute by 50%

baseline

for fury

👉 👈

[red berry]

what if execute was always worth pressing

[modest condor]

am and ra are very close on live as well

[young swan]

20 min test with powerful vs 20 min test with frenzied

[feral ivy]

idk what i should buy with last dinar mythic trinket eye, HOC, lock-n-stalk

[remote bobcat]

droptimize it no?

i have everything from the raid except for eye

so imma buy eye

but if u dont have that option available to u then droptimize

[winter shoal]

Feel like it doesn't really matter if you already have the rare drops

Take whatever is the biggest immediate upgrade and prayge for the rest

[remote bobcat]

big agree

[winter shoal]

I dinar jastors next week

[feral ivy]

what did u buy last week? or 2 weeks ago

[remote bobcat]

i bought jastor and BIS

[feral ivy]

^ same and got BIs the next week lol

[remote bobcat]

i got hoc and lockncock from raid directly

[feral ivy]

in vault*

[olive wraith]

is deft worth dropping for anything

[remote bobcat]

deft feels ass

hes testing rn

hop in his stream

[olive wraith]

bloodcraze/ bloodborne feel like wasted talents

i missed his talent setup atm

[feral ivy]

whats befould thing?

pbe?

[remote bobcat]

ptr

yea

testing new shit

[feral ivy]

ahhh

[winter shoal]

I've bought myth pacemaker and BIS

[remote bobcat]

pace over jastor?

[olive wraith]

the whole left side of the tree seems dead

like bt doesnt seem worth pressing

[winter shoal]

I was 4/8 at the time and not in a guild

[feral ivy]

do u mythic + a lot?

[winter shoal]

No

[remote bobcat]

ooh

[feral ivy]

ahh nvm

[remote bobcat]

isnt hero jastor > myth pace?

like always?

[winter shoal]

Not for my gear

[remote bobcat]

damn

okay

thats wild

[feral ivy]

oh thought u killed mythic gally lol

was going to say

[winter shoal]

My stats are weird idk, I'm using hc mugzee neck and a hero ring bc crafted for both are worse

[winter shoal]

I have since, but at the time my guild just died

[feral ivy]

ahh

[winter shoal]

190 pulls to not kill sprocket will do things to the mental of 20 players

[remote bobcat]

how

[winter shoal]

especially when ~5 of those players were ready to kill the boss after 50 pulls

[remote bobcat]

no but genuinely how

[winter shoal]

We had a druid doing less dps than I did on kyveza in s1

[remote bobcat]

who cares

just live

[winter shoal]

Yeah about that

[remote bobcat]

mechanics are free

is it people just not knowing how to gate?

do people not have control shards?

[winter shoal]

gate, mines, everything

[feral ivy]

for my guild sprocket 260 and gally 167 and OAB 53

mug 116

[winter shoal]

idk I never gated I always leapt it

[remote bobcat]

oab 53 but sprocket 260?

what the fuck

[feral ivy]

every week a new person

[remote bobcat]

nah yall are on some mad shit

[feral ivy]

and no warlock

[remote bobcat]

oh.

no lock.

[feral ivy]

i really mean EVERY week it was like 2 or 3 brand new ppl

so explaining it OVER AND OVER

[winter shoal]

We had a 4% pull on sprocket that was on track for a top 20 log for me and then our mage altered back into an opposite color mine and wiped us 🙃

[remote bobcat]

yea i get that

[winter shoal]

I have since gotten a top 20 log on sprocket though so it's all g

[remote bobcat]

on our sprocket kill we disallowed to usage of all movement spells to get back to the group, only to get to the mine or during intermission to follow sprocket

and it actually did wonders

no more random into mines

no more random into groups

[winter shoal]

Okay but our ranged and healers play like their monitors are turned off

There's no saving them

They couldn't even do drills properly with 3 different people shouting at them to bait drills

[remote bobcat]

actually, now that i think about it, our sprocket kill was right as discord servers went down for the entire night

[winter shoal]

those 3 all being melee btw

[remote bobcat]

so we killed with no comms

[feral ivy]

LOL

[remote bobcat]

real shit man..

i get that

[feral ivy]

sprocket was a EASY / hard boss

[remote bobcat]

our healers took very long with drills too

[undone flower]

Maybe one is before turbo boost + oab last nerf

[remote bobcat]

not they jsut didnt have a warlock gate on sprocket

and big griefers

[undone flower]

How you do it without a gate ?

[sour tundra]

whats the best way to unlocked more effects for the new belt

[undone flower]

You just get bumped into walls ?

Or in lightning shit ?

[remote bobcat]

probably just very specific knockback angles

both groups hugging eachother

type shit

[undone flower]

Tbf you can just get pushed at opposite side and lose the run back for half the raid

Since boss dies 2/3 into the fight

[remote bobcat]

yea thats true

im very blessed to have a group with every class

having gateways is peak

[undone flower]

I have 4 warlocks

[remote bobcat]

g'huun

[undone flower]

There are gateways everywhere when we do gally

I think I can do p1 without moving

If I didn’t have gate cd

And a bomb

[remote bobcat]

did u just randomly forget the part where u form a ring around gally

running in circles

while killing the shield

[undone flower]

I can not move and tank it

I think

[remote bobcat]

u can live the stun yea

but why would u

[undone flower]

Let me member all the gates, there is one for pull, one for beam+soaks (where 3rd adds are), one for 4th bomb, and the last one I don’t know

[marble pilot]

25k str pretty good

[young swan]

2min

useless

unyielding netherprism bis

[sullen dove]

realge

about equal amount of strength on 90s and can build up 150s of stacks for a big 3min burst

[quiet breach]

we raid 6 hours a week, so we got 2 hours of prog tonight on it, then 6 more next week. I think it should die next week for sure

[sullen dove]

trading crit stat for some extra dmg the other one does

[marble pilot]

2 min is bad but for 2 min classes that seems crazy good

[sullen dove]

It’s also gonna be way more than 25k

That’s at 662

When cap is like 723

unless that’s a delve item or something

[marble pilot]

This is the one we want and just bind it to avatar. If im reading it right hten it should be at 15ish stacks for every avatar

[sullen dove]

Whereas I think we saw the other trunk was already myth track giving 3.2k str a stack up to 15 stacks

[marble pilot]

And its the raid trinket but they are all showing 662 for whatever reason

Well a raid trinket

[sullen dove]

Like 9 stacks on avatar

Every 10 seconds

[marble pilot]

Yeah thats better math. I dont play warrior for such complex things like 90 / 10

[sullen dove]

Which is why u can use it like a 90s trinket if you want making sure u get the 9th stack before using it or can save the stacks and use with 2nd avatar with all 15 stacks in the case of like an important burn window

Like that would prolly go hard in mugzee here

[young swan]

for me it was consistently 9-10 stacks

[sullen dove]

Full stack cds with list

[marble pilot]

Or we just use Sacbrood

and whatever passive trinket

[sullen dove]

Yea I mean both probably

[young swan]

infinite stars trinket seems pretty funny

[sullen dove]

LOOK AT HIS FUCKING INFINITE STARS

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

[hardy cargo]

I feel bad for tanks required to play that really op annoying to play priory trinket again xd

[marble pilot]

seems ok for a passive trinket. Similar to lockenstock

[sullen dove]

Enjoy farming halls infinitely for ring and necklace again

both haste mast if I remember right

[sullen dove]

Way less dmg than sprocket so shit better proc giga fast

Like 1 per every other ability tbh

[marble pilot]

Well its 662 ilvl on the tooltip. I dunno what the real number will be

[sullen dove]

668 sprocket is 1.2m a hit

maybe it doesn’t have strength tho idk

[marble pilot]

checking

[hardy cargo]

Lock n stalk has haste

[marble pilot]

Yeah its haste not str

[sullen dove]

Strength main-stat trinkets prolly not as big a deal anyway next patch cuz how much str the on uses give

kinda funy

[marble pilot]

This is the other passive that seems to work with us

So for raid trinkets its one of those two passives and the stacking on use trinket.
I havnt looked at m+/delve trinkets

[young swan]

@slim coral are u hopping on ptr at all tonight

[buoyant salmon]

hop on dn

[quiet geyser]

arakara and floodgate are back too

[buoyant salmon]

kekw gottem

jajajajaja

[slim coral]

I was just on for like 4 hours what you need

also not much to really test rn with no changes

and no content out

[young swan]

I was just gonna say u should try the build i was using but if ur fresh off no sweatr

[slim coral]

I can test it

just post it

[young swan]

thats what i had the best results with

3.26/3.28 over 20 min

[lean heart]

not pressing BT but still running bloodcraze feels so strange

[young swan]

yeah its odd

you still press it sometimes

[flat river]

just get arakara trinket and we gucci

[lean heart]

yeh very rarely

[young swan]

but i overcappes on bc a TON

[lean heart]

yeh i was up to like 140%

[slim coral]

k I'll try it

[lean heart]

i guess it does send BT on BS so its not "wasted"

[whole yacht]

yall got chrono corsair?

[red berry]

yeah the idea of only spending it when you have stacks like

i just want to drop the dot from bloodthirst and bloodcraze at this point

gushing wounds, sorry

[young swan]

gusher still too good

and u need bc to get deft

also like

where do u even put the points

we're out of good talents to take

[sullen dove]

Gusher did less damage than sidearm breh

[young swan]

yeah but it gives rage

and again

where do you put the point!!

[sullen dove]

More dmg than spear tho

:icant:

Remember when that used to do like 20% of your dmg in m+

mbg haters didn’t know how good we had it in sl

[rose bay]

RIp spamming ww

[red berry]

i loved bonegrinder so fucking much dude

[sullen dove]

peak aoe

[red berry]

we've talked about this more then once here

[sullen dove]

that was our true uncapped aoe

now we lost it

You reap what you sow

[young swan]

@sullen dove these are the options if u drop gusher

[sullen dove]

Smf W

[young swan]

literally they all fucking suck

[sullen dove]

don’t that ww one give u rage

w shit

[young swan]

yeah

[sullen dove]

Received very powerful 120% buff

surely good single target filler ability

I like how bloodbath does nothing

“We’re gonna build up a minute long bb dot btw just hit it on cd instead of crushing blow”

[modest condor]

it's invigorating fury time

[young swan]

u think OF is better than 1 point of deft..

i wonder if pressing that button is even a gain

probably not

[modest condor]

possibly

[sullen dove]

onslaught time

[modest condor]

cant take onslaught

[young swan]

nah ur not dropping crit node

too powerful

time to log back in

[modest condor]

i like how cruel strikes and critical thinking have the same effect but are worded differently

[young swan]

yeah its pretty funny

[quiet geyser]

hate UF >.<

[olive wraith]

The whole left side of the tree is just dead

And now we have a surplus of talents

[red berry]

maybe they'll make fury talents have real impact

frost is getting big changes

[olive wraith]

Like left side is fine if they actually made bt a better button

It’s just nonstop rb tiers

[slim coral]

Get off my dummy bro

[winged linden]

Does anyone knows for a fact if Warcraft logs take into account the "Loyal Customer" buff in undermine raid ? My buff is currently at 6% which is why i'm wondering

[winter shoal]

What do you mean by take it into account

it doesn't normalize your damage as if you didn't have the buff

if the buff makes you do more damage, you do more damage on the log

[winged linden]

Does it normalize as if i'm at 12% like everyone else or whatever number ppl are at currently

if that make sense

cause the tooltip on wlog says 0%

[winter shoal]

The only exception was there was a bug where people got extra renown and therefore extra raid buff, and their logs were invalidated (as well as the rest of the group's)

[winter shoal]

There probably aren't different IDs for the different %s of the buffs if I had to guess

logs are extremely scuffed sometimes in unintuitive ways

[young swan]

OF is dick

idk if i just got giga unluck or what'

[young swan]

theres no way to differentiate from 3% to 18% on logs

[winged linden]

It's weird mate. I clicked on the buff sections checked for the loyal customer buff, says that i've 4 stacks of it where clearly i have 2 because of my current renown so idk

[winged linden]

Meaning that it's taken into account but is untrackable or meaning that it is simply impossible to know if it's taken into account ?

[young swan]

correct

[winged linden]

which part xd

[young swan]

its taken into account but impossible to track

thats why ALL logs were voided during the exploit week instead of just everyone who had extra % being flagged

[winged linden]

Got it. Guess i'm screwed until I catch up before the end of the patch

[young swan]

yepper

s

[winged linden]

tyvm for insight m8

[winter shoal]

My favorite log quirk is SD stacks

Going from 2->1 stack is logged as a "refresh buff" event even though it doesn't refresh the duration

[slim coral]

did you have all your gear enchanted

[young swan]

nah

actually

nah

just weapons

was using spymasters 2.0 and mastery proccer delve trinket

[winter shoal]

I did 3.27 without new weap/trinkets

Skill issue I fear

[young swan]

over 20 min

[winter shoal]

5m, 20m

Same thing right

[young swan]

im pretty sure because of the trinkets i was using 20 min was actually better

[winter shoal]

Were you using the infinite stars trink xan

[young swan]

nah

[winter shoal]

the stacking one

[young swan]

nope

[winter shoal]

For the coral one were you just using with 90s?

[young swan]

yepers

i was using some delve trinket that procs like 30k mastery

if u get the overlap you just do stupid damage

[winter shoal]

energy drink?

or is there a new one

[young swan]

new one

cant remember the name

[winter shoal]

Back to farming 8 tier 8 delves a week

Why do they do this

[young swan]

im gonna be hoenst idk if its good

sacbrood or pacemaker are prob better

way more consistent

but with the mastery proc u can just get lucky and get it during spear windows and ur dps goes up a billion

[winter shoal]

I feel like sac is gonna go crazy if it's not nerfed

Considering how good pace is rn and we don't even really care about crit (currently)

Those two statements don't make any sense in conjuction with each other

I might need to go to bed

[sullen dove]

[buoyant salmon]

spear reck proc bladestorm gg whirlwind whirlwind whirlwind

good times

[low folio]

Maybe it’s just me but the new tier seems meh

Although I don’t raid

[winter shoal]

It's pretty fun on slayer

Thane one doesn't seem to proc often enough imo and its damage is kind of pitiful

[low folio]

Well getting extra procs of thunder blast seems not good enough since it has a cooldown

[modest condor]

slayer 2set is fun, it basically creates a feedback loop with itself where more sudden deaths means even more sudden deaths
slayer 4set is... an interesting choice

thane set as a whole, i dont wanna talk about it, i think it just needs to be reworked

[olive wraith]

Stack that tb damage instead

Per ionized strike

Or something

[low folio]

Might actually just become an arms warrior main with how many bad tier sets fury seems to get

[olive wraith]

No kidding

But slayer looks fine

[low folio]

Ya but I like dungeons more. Unless slayer becomes good in dungeons

[olive wraith]

It looks good for dungeons

At least it seems like it’s better than current thane

[low folio]

I personally would love to have slayer as an actual decent spec for dungeons, I just remember in season 2 fury as a whole just did nothing in dungeons decently

[slim coral]

yeah thane hasn't excelled in anything the entire xpac so far

[olive wraith]

?

[slim coral]

slayer atleast had nerubar

[olive wraith]

Wasn’t thane the choice for the 2 target one

The charge boss

[slim coral]

It didn't really excell it just performed better than slayer on bandit for ads

Even then you pretty much played arms

[red berry]

yeah thanes loss in ST isn't really enough to compensate for its gain in consistent AoE imo. it just does more.

but they're both pretty underwhelming

[slim coral]

thane has pretty much been a nothing burger all xpac

and it's becasue they won't buff it

[summer quail]

I mean on oab you play whatever you want really. We suck balls on that fight

[red berry]

if the slayerset gets changed to make 4piece actually benefit from multiple targets for reaping, it will outperform thane in AoE fullstop

[slim coral]

for fury to excel in the 5 target it needs to pump those 5 targets

but it doesnt do that and losses to bookims on 5 targets who are not target capped

[red berry]

or the other several classes

that frankly do more anyway

in 2-5 targets

and then go well beyond

[slim coral]

yep

[red berry]

godawful

[slim coral]

so they need to either leave fury alone and let it be op at 5 or just remove the cap

[red berry]

but yeah no im with sil on the thane tierset needs to be taken out like ol yeller

nip it early

it will only be good if they make thunder blast worth pressing in ST and due to how raging blow is currently designed they're not in agreement with each other

[modest condor]

thunderblast is worth pressing on st

[red berry]

is it?

[modest condor]

yes

[red berry]

my mistake, then

the set will still need too much anyway

[modest condor]

numerically the set just does nothing right now, 2set is like 0.5% dps and 4set procs so little you maybe get 5 procs during a fight

[slim coral]

doesnt help that you get cd'd out of TB

so even if you got a shit ton of procs you can't use em

idk why there is a cd anyways

[modest condor]

and that it procs off of bt which is low prio

[slim coral]

both specs need a dk level rework

[chilly fractal]

I hadn’t tested the new sets yet I would’ve guessed the Thane one was more fun

[slim coral]

capstones all need god

bc they're all boring or weak asf

LIke where are the buffs to onslaught

not that I like the button

but its weird

[sullen dove]

k man @fleet sorrel

[modest condor]

thane set doesnt affect the rotation at all, if 4set actually procced more often you could at least argue that it makes you press tb more often on st but it procs so little you dont even notice it

[olive wraith]

Move OS to the right side

Swap positions with of

[modest condor]

at least slayer makes you able to chain fire sudden deaths

[lean heart]

you know capstones are shit when avatar for both fury and arms do the same shit even with different capstones

[sullen tendon]

the randomness of it all is the worst part

you can just get absolutely fucked in aoe if you arent already

[lean heart]

but also this 2H is sick

[olive wraith]

Silver lining is at least we weren’t as shafted as prot was?

[modest condor]

on aoe you're already doing like 2/3 tb vs 1/3 tc, so even there it's not that big of a deal

[sullen tendon]

prot will never be as strong as it was in bfa

unless it is exceedingly better than every other tank

[olive wraith]

Prot was pretty solid this season

[sullen tendon]

and no one played it

[modest condor]

there are multiple prot warriors doing 20+ keys

[sullen tendon]

compared to dh

[olive wraith]

Well no shit lol

[sullen tendon]

paladin atleast has ups and downs where it is on par with vdh

[olive wraith]

Just because it wasn’t the best doesn’t mean it’s not good

[slim coral]

Btw

Tindral intermisson on the very last fight @modest condor

[sullen tendon]

its not good

[modest condor]

it's good

[sullen tendon]

then why does no one play it

[slim coral]

Ngl Avatar needs to be removed and replaced with somethign else

[olive wraith]

Wdym

[sullen tendon]

EXCEPT FOR THE 10 PEOPLE IN THE WORLD WHO DO

[fleet sorrel]

so you peeping through my window

[chilly fractal]

TIL only 10 people in the world play Prot Warrior

[modest condor]

til your spec has to be the most popular for it to be good

[sullen tendon]

have to clarify these things or else people will pull the old "errmmm technically"

[cosmic sundial]

I love when Bobby gets on, need my daily dose of hyperbole and ragebait

[sullen dove]

doin this dogshit imaginarium with elements i dont have leveled characters for

like 6 of them are lvl 70 and naked

[fleet sorrel]

this theater was awful

anemo theater always sucks

[sullen dove]

its cryo dendro and electro?

[fleet sorrel]

o

roger

just as bad

[sullen dove]

yeap

no hydro gg

[fleet sorrel]

can you use skirk in there or no

[sullen dove]

yea

[fleet sorrel]

omg

[sullen dove]

will be the saving grace probably

forced to use like cyno and collei and shit

[sullen tendon]

thunderclap spam was the funest part about prot war and they removed it

[olive wraith]

Revenge spam is pretty fun

[prime charm]

It’s just down right depressing as fury looking at 11.2 and seeing once again next to know changes or even an attempt at a spec rework. How many expacs is it now

[olive wraith]

Cycle that demolish

[sullen tendon]

revenge spamisnt as fun

[red berry]

we are two days into the PTR

chill

[sullen tendon]

also demolish is a bad ability

[olive wraith]

Is it?

[sullen tendon]

it has the same problems fyralath had

[red berry]

i think demolish feels significantly better on prot then it does arms

[covert blaze]

bobby you strike me as a very positive person

[lean heart]

agreed

[sullen tendon]

ill be happy when blizzard fixes warrior

[chilly fractal]

Few are more positive than @sullen tendon

[covert blaze]

[chilly fractal]

TOMRUS may be more positive

[red berry]

[olive wraith]

Idk demolish feels fine to me on prot

[sullen tendon]

blizzard will never appease me until then

[red berry]

i love prot demolish

[sullen tendon]

i dont like the anti mobility aspect of demolish and that the animation isnt that good

[olive wraith]

Whats your biggest issue with war

[sullen tendon]

i want it to look like old warbreaker from legion

[sullen tendon]

target cap and boring gameplay loop that relies on meat cleaver too much

[chilly fractal]

I’m too busy watching my other monitor to know what our animations look like

[sullen tendon]

but i cant stop playing fury

[young swan]

2

[olive wraith]

Did you want a passive meat cleaver? Or a dedicated aoe button

Like a cleave equivalent for fury

[sullen dove]

mbg ww spam

bring it back

[sullen tendon]

something that actually seperates our aoe from our st

[chilly fractal]

Dude I wish

[olive wraith]

Hasn’t fury niche been st=aoe for a while

[sullen tendon]

yes and it sucks becuase they cant do anything with it because they are tied together

[olive wraith]

So that’s your core issue then

[sullen tendon]

increasing our st means increasing our aoe

[sullen tendon]

stagnation

[chilly fractal]

I mean… they 100% can

[olive wraith]

I mean there’s ways to differentiate it we’ve seen that

S3 Df comes to mind

How the set buffed bt didn’t cleave

[sullen tendon]

that was litearll just spamming odysn fury

and bt

[low folio]

I want the mage treatment 🙂

[chilly fractal]

They could always change how much abilities do based on how many targets meat cleaver cleaves onto

[signal falcon]

S3 DF gameplay was not very fun imo

[sullen tendon]

all our aoe comes from talent abilites

[olive wraith]

Okay? But our st was good without boosting our aoe

Most classes have to talent into aoe damage. Not sure I understand your sentiment

[low folio]

I’d rather talent into aoe than jus be mediocre at it

[sullen tendon]

i think they just need to take a look at how stagnant fury's gameplay fantasy has become and rework it. We are the auto attack class basically we dont do anything else. they tried making us the spin 2 win class with slayer but its barely any spinning. they tried making us lightning warriors but jsut gave us a bigger thunder clap with nothing else.

[olive wraith]

Oh I hear a bring back anni

I’m sold

I agree

[young swan]

real

[chilly fractal]

The idea of Mountain Thane for Fury makes me chuckle… Fury the spec that famously used Thunder Clap any time ever

[olive wraith]

I for one really enjoy thane thematically

[sullen tendon]

ravager is a good idea for waht fury should be but it needs to be expanded on. we either need to be fast swingers that hit hard like a warrior version of outlaw rogue or we need to be weapon masters that are versatile with any weapons using them to throw out axes or swords at enemies around us or throw out tons of mini ravager sfor aoe or something other than just more than abilities that are just glorified auto attacks

[chilly fractal]

I like it I’m just confused why it revolves around an ability we never used prior to it’s existence

[olive wraith]

So Diablo barbarian

[sullen tendon]

i guess ive never played diablo

[chilly fractal]

Play D3 and get the wastes set… WW barb so much fun

[sullen tendon]

they really just need to rethink what fury should be

[olive wraith]

I would enjoy a more Bt focused theme

[sullen tendon]

it has tons of potential and historical warrior characters that they could take inspiration from but they jsut throw more auto attack like abilities at us

[sullen tendon]

bt and raging blow are the biggest offenders

its litearlly just auto attack but red

[olive wraith]

Rb is super lame I agree

But bt at least has some flavor imo

[sullen tendon]

whirlwind is an iconic ability but they never do anything with it

even when merciless bonegrinder was in it didnt change anything fundamentally about it

it just made it super strong

[olive wraith]

Bladestorm is a better ww though

You lost me there

[chilly fractal]

Bloodthirst isn’t an iconic ability? I mean sure it ain’t what it used to be but when I think of Fury Bloodthirst is the ability I think of dating back to 2004

[sullen tendon]

ok so for a hero talent give us a blademaser like ability that makes mirror images and shoots out a ton of bladestorms in an area around you instead of just copying 1 tick of the bladestorm animation

[olive wraith]

Ya this. Like it’s like a fight hungry I’m thirsty for more battle vibe

[olive wraith]

Mirror images? Are we mages now

[summer quail]

blademaster had them before mages

[sullen tendon]

they made that ravager animation for a anniversary toy instead of giving it to warriors for a giant sword tornado ability that would suck in mobs akin to a mass grip

[chilly fractal]

At least we no longer have to deal with the potential to not Crit with our opening Bloodthirst and not getting enraged and wanting to intentionally wipe the raid to try again

[olive wraith]

Too magic for my taste

[chilly fractal]

WoD fury made me want to jump off a cliff

[slim coral]

3

[sullen tendon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c7C9hqL5wk

[smoky vale]

4

[chilly fractal]

They could give us back Colossus Smash as Fury lul

[young swan]

would prefer they just do somethign else

[chilly fractal]

I kinda miss Crit being our best stat as Fury

[olive wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-droid-general-grievous-robot-general-grievous-gif-15512920

What if

[chilly fractal]

SMF allows you to equip 4 1 handers

[quiet breach]

LMAO

[olive wraith]

I’m so down

Let’s do it

[chilly fractal]

Ight someone call up Ion

[olive wraith]

Let us copy 2 weps though

[chilly fractal]

Tell em we’re cookin

[olive wraith]

So we don’t have to farm 4

[young swan]

i think blizzard should just yoink all of my ideas and make my perfect version of fury 🙂

[olive wraith]

Get hired pls

[sullen tendon]

blizzard should remove fury from the game and just give us gladiator so they can have a fresh start. Fury is obviously a lost cause and they dont want to spend time fixing it or doing anything worthwhile with it.

[silk wharf]

I noticed fooling around with it last night that the one-button assistant tosses ravager on your target. Thinking of trying it as my ravager binding.

[olive wraith]

That’s very doom for being slightly below mid

[sullen tendon]

the tuning and damage isnt the problem

its the fundamental design and class fantasy that isnt being fulfilled other than titans grip which hasnt changed in decades

[slim coral]

yeah like rework avatar

[olive wraith]

For you I guess

[slim coral]

flat 20 percent is just boring

give us actual cool cds

[sullen tendon]

tiatns grip is the only thing that seperates fury from other 2h specs and all of them have better design and fulfil their specs gameplay fantasy better than fury

[chilly fractal]

Storm Bolt should go back to doing 500% damage to bosses

[olive wraith]

You say that but isn’t fury one of the most popular specs

[young swan]

just nuke it from the game

[young swan]

its like top 5

[olive wraith]

So obviously people still like fury

[hushed gust]

fury's cool, it's just we need better AoE numbers.

one of the big fantasies is literally turning yourself into an angry blender, so why are we so far behind so many specs?

[young swan]

yeah but consider the number of people who will always like fury versus those who are bored of it

theres a ton of people who will just love it regardless

cause 2 weapons

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/based-gigachad-chad-gif-23901955

[summer quail]

is this still true? i feel like fury popularity has fallen off a bit

[young swan]

maybe it dropped out of the top 5

im just going based off heroic parses

generally

[olive wraith]

Druid and paladin specs are usually top afaik

[slim coral]

also popular does not mean good design

[summer quail]

top 8 but still decently popular

[chilly fractal]

Ret Pally iirc is most popular by a good margin

[olive wraith]

Popular gotta be worth something if your argument is “it’s trash themed”

[slim coral]

it's not just the theme that is the issue

the capstones literally do nothing for the spec

[young swan]

i just think its boring

theme is fine, they just need to do more with it

[slim coral]

make slayer like first beserker kezhan

[summer quail]

fury design is good, just stale. arms design needs god

[chilly fractal]

Arms needs to be religious themed

[summer quail]

i'd rather have arms be like earth themed or void themed. arms had some void stuff in legion which they could have went with

[olive wraith]

I think arms getting empowered spells would be pretty cool

I always thought of arms as slower but harder hitting abilities

[slim coral]

they should turn arms into sargeras

[chilly fractal]

They should turn arms into legs

[summer quail]

i'd take anything at this point for arms. just do SOMETHING

[young swan]

yeah real

[olive wraith]

What if they made it so your characters actual arms became weapons

[slim coral]

what if they made it so arms was actually a fun spec

and not a slog

and clunky

[summer quail]

how about they make a tierset to make jugg more consistent as a bandaid and call it there? 🙂

[olive wraith]

But that doesn’t help thane

[summer quail]

i'm just memeing about the new slayer tier making jugg somewhat consistent for arms. which is technically a "fix" for jugg, just in the wrong direction

[olive wraith]

I thought Col looked cooler for arms

[chilly fractal]

T blast has no CD and enrages or auto casts rampage regardless of rage… just spitballing

[olive wraith]

Getting a second tb proc should also reset the cooldown

Would probably fix a lot of the issue

[summer quail]

Col does look cooler for arms, but i doubt it sees play in raid atleast for st. not checked the bosses yet

[olive wraith]

Fair. Execute tier is gonna be giga for arms

[chilly fractal]

Ya’ll don’t seem to be as excited as I am that the 15 second CD on Battle Shout is going away… gonna spam that son of a bitch instead of Whirlwind now when I’m doing nothing or waiting

[sullen tendon]

That extra 5% increased size goes a long way

[olive wraith]

No I love this

[chilly fractal]

When I play my shaman I just spam that buff nonstop

[olive wraith]

I was liking it for juicy ms/demolish crits

[sullen tendon]

Colossus is an amazing example of how blizzard designs warriors. They change nothing about how the specs play and change nothing about the visuals of the spec and just add extra damage to abilities that already exist. “Using raging blow makes your next rampage do 15% increases damage”

“Your cleave has a 5% increase chance to critical strike”

[olive wraith]

Maybe you should reroll my guy

It honestly seems like you just hate warrior

[chilly fractal]

But then the terrorists win

[sullen tendon]

It’s a love hate relationship

[olive wraith]

If you don’t like it don’t play it

[sullen tendon]

I’ve mained l fury forever and will never give up on it but I also hate it and want it to change

[olive wraith]

When was the last time you actually liked fury

[sullen tendon]

It started going downhill in shadowlands

Bfa fury was alright cause of Azeroth traits

Gushing wound crit stacking was kinda fun

[restive comet]

the reduced spear cooldown with signet lego was beast

[young swan]

slands fury was the worst iteration of fury ever i think

s2 tww close 2nd

[chilly fractal]

Only time I kinda hated Fury was S2 SL because of Sylvanas… but I still played it because w/e… I blame that on Blizzard not letting us spam condemn in the last phase because it ended at 45 fucking percent

Oh also HFC in WoD because Arms was infinitely more fun… apply rend and spam MS

[eternal sundial]

What tier

I think s2 was remotely bearable

S3 S4 turbo aids

S1 i honestly forgot

[chilly fractal]

WoD fury… Charge in bloodthirst doesn’t Crit… time to kill myself

[eternal sundial]

Im playing some cata ye

[chilly fractal]

They should replace Avatar with old Death Wish

[eternal sundial]

Arms has higher enrage than fury

By like a lot

[eternal sundial]

Fury shouldnt have Avatar nor should it do what it does atm for arms

Big agree

[young swan]

all

[chilly fractal]

Arms in Cata was pretty chill… I only played it in Dragon Soul

[young swan]

no mercy

[eternal sundial]

S3 started the rb>exe pandemic

[chilly fractal]

I actually got paid by a sponsor to make Arms Warrior guides and do coaching during Dragon Soul

[eternal sundial]

Needs to burn

[chilly fractal]

What a time

[eternal sundial]

Cata arms is fun as fuck

Fury isnt

[chilly fractal]

RIP L2PTV

[echo rapids]

Holy shit death wish

[eternal sundial]

Especially with dragonsoul 2p 4p

[young swan]

disgusting tier

ruined fury forever i fear

[eternal sundial]

Correct Assessment

[dense fulcrum]

[eternal sundial]

Bro how do you make a raid with the hardest cbt factor

[young swan]

been stuck with dogshit slop slot machine shit since then

[eternal sundial]

And then make us use charging cb

All xeos fault

[eternal sundial]

I love deathmaker

Yipiiii

Dm+reck procs+gavel

[chilly fractal]

The only fun part of Cata Fury… was having a Mastery set and that trinket from Firelands rep or whatever that gave you a ton of mastery… using Death Wish with prepot and swapping your gear back

[olive wraith]

Just make us vanilla fury again

[echo rapids]

How would they even bring back death wish

[chilly fractal]

WHAT WAS NOT FUN IS WHEN PEOPLE PULL EARLY

[eternal sundial]

I like reck as a cd

Idk if we need 8cds per spec tho

[eternal sundial]

Well it can do additional shit ontop of the x2 rage

[oblique thistle]

Guys i figured it out just give fury wake of ashes

[eternal sundial]

So odyns fury

[chilly fractal]

Well it’s a PVP talent now… unfortunate

[olive wraith]

Based

[oblique thistle]

no that talent sucks just give it wake of ashes

we'll be so back

[olive wraith]

And make it so tier lets us use it twice

[eternal sundial]

Tune it like wake u mean

Tuning doesnt fix horse shit gameplay unfortunately

[echo rapids]

Yeah but for pve, not sure how it would work but it was very fury

[summer quail]

that is what everyone had hoped RA would do. but no, you gotta have shitty empowered spells

[olive wraith]

Why’d they have to change ra

[summer quail]

coz RA design sucked. and new RA design sucks

[olive wraith]

Much prefer the previous ra

[chilly fractal]

IMHO should bring it back how it was in Cataclysm… increases damage by whatever your mastery % is… increases damage taken is whatever

[oblique thistle]

I didn't hate RA but I do hate powerful enrage

[summer quail]

just make RA give reck crit damage or something. like make it a stronger cd

[young swan]

they just gotta make RA a crit dam amp

[oblique thistle]

That kills the spec identity for me more than anything

[olive wraith]

What’s wrong with powerful enrage

[oblique thistle]

I dont play fury for slower apm

I want to go fast

[young swan]

then just play frenzied

[echo rapids]

Powerful enrage is fine, all the old players need to rest their fingers

[eternal sundial]

PE is a bit freakish for stuff like odyns

[young swan]

its a choice node designed to give you the choise

[young swan]

good thing OF is dogshit

[oblique thistle]

But it outperforms frenzied in M+ does it not?

[eternal sundial]

I just remember haste ring maxxing for worm to get pe and the timers

[young swan]

not by enough for it to matter for the vast majority of players

[echo rapids]

It’s hardly fury’s biggest problem

[olive wraith]

Isn’t it kind of like how you can take OF rn

Not a huge loss

[chilly fractal]

What feels best and what’s mathematically best won’t always be the same

[sullen tendon]

The choice to do less damage

[olive wraith]

We make that choice every day we play warrior

[sullen tendon]

True

[red berry]

i yearn for fury crit-crit damage build

[young swan]

i yearn for crit mastery fury

[chilly fractal]

You literally make a conscious choice to do less damage every time you play the game if you never swap off Fury Warrior unless Fury is the best spec in the game in whatever content your doing. A few extra thousand DPS ain’t the end of the world

[echo rapids]

Gameplay/design issues on top of bad performance is a rough combo

[red berry]

there will always be mastery...............

[young swan]

i just want new stuff to play with

[echo rapids]

Like I think balance is objectively a bad spec but all its issues are papered over by big deeps

[young swan]

there is nothing more fun in this game that getting to experiment with new toys

[red berry]

thats true

[young swan]

trying to find out what the best build is every tier is the only thing thats fun for me

getting gear is alright too

[chilly fractal]

Have you considered gambling

[sullen tendon]

It feels awful every time you see ANOTHER spec get a rework or changes at all for that matter while fury rots

[eternal sundial]

You will have the same gameplay as BFA

👻

[sullen tendon]

Ret pally getting their 4th rework in 3 expansions

[eternal sundial]

Infinite Stars

[smoky vale]

6

[eternal sundial]

Ramp rb bt

No siegebreaker but whatever

[red berry]

crit/crit damage simmed highest for me

[red berry]

i really enjoyed BFA fury. can we imagine a world where cold steel hot blood actually does damage

[eternal sundial]

Again

Crit mast fury

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/thofinn-gif-27635363

[young swan]

its so much worse

[olive wraith]

Idk I don’t want to be a bleed spec

[echo rapids]

Arms needs to stay in their lane

[eternal sundial]

Your filler maintaining a dog and shitting in prio cuz of that would be fun no?

[young swan]

hey guys execute tier btw rb highest damage btw

[sullen tendon]

What if cshb did damage AND made you proc other things like all these other specs do

[eternal sundial]

Like bt has 5 sec cd

And cshb gets extended to 12 or so

[chilly fractal]

Curious what’s the difference in casts?

[young swan]

i can log in and tell you

[chilly fractal]

Oh I see it

[young swan]

execute was 214

i'll check rb for u

[red berry]

im assuming you're running that raging blow damage/crit damage hero talent

i need to swap to that

raging blow was #3 without it but you're pressing it enough that it matters

[red berry]

on mmine

[summer quail]

214 casts or hits? coz it hits twice

[red berry]

yeah that makes sense

[olive wraith]

If OS was swapped with OF we could probably take it

[young swan]

okay

so

[chilly fractal]

429 yea?

[young swan]

execute 194 casts, rb 376 casts

[summer quail]

exe slapping

[young swan]

ramp was 339 casts

that was the best build i could find

[chilly fractal]

I think based on number of casts that’s acceptable

[young swan]

RA is surprisingly close

from my limited testing

[olive wraith]

Damn maybe execute should give us a stack of ss

Rampage damage is sad

[young swan]

i mean ur just slamming rb and execute constantly

[chilly fractal]

Well it hits 4 fucking times

[young swan]

its insane

[olive wraith]

That’s actually a lot of Bt damage

Is that basicallly all from bs

[young swan]

pretty much all from unhinged

[olive wraith]

Jeez

[young swan]

there were some natty casts

[red berry]

bloodcraze stacks

[young swan]

mostly ignored

i only pressed bt if i couldnt press RB, execute or ramp

[olive wraith]

Don’t have gcds to cast bt

[summer quail]

"press bt when at 5 bloodcraze stacks"

[chilly fractal]

So I’m not sure of the math behind it… but if you used Bloodthirst more from Bloodcraze stacks… would execute come out ahead of RB

[eternal sundial]

Evil talent

[olive wraith]

Why press bt though

[eternal sundial]

Make bt great again

[young swan]

yeah prob

[lean heart]

was messing around with arms on ptr that shit is omega stinky

[young swan]

bt damage down a ton cause ur dropping VC for critical thinking and swapping fierce followthrough over to opportunist

[chilly fractal]

They are very close together as of now in your test so I think execute would pull ahead

[summer quail]

actually dropping vc? holy moly

[slim coral]

and trying out new trinkets!

I love testing new trinkets

[olive wraith]

Bt is useless next tier

[slim coral]

I'm really sad these 2 min trinkets arent 1 min 30

[lean heart]

i was slapping the dummy and there were times i was just hitting exe-ramp-exe-ramp

[slim coral]

hpefully they get patched

[lean heart]

no gcd for BT

[slim coral]

yep thats the new gameplay loop

[lean heart]

exe do be slappin

[olive wraith]

Left side talents are dead

[lean heart]

giga dead

[oblique thistle]

has anyone tested thane

[young swan]

yeah my non-vc tests were coming within like 20k dps of vc on a target dummy that sat at <35% for 20 minutes

[olive wraith]

Yes

[young swan]

the tier set doesnt actually do anything

[summer quail]

rip

[young swan]

so its not really worth testing

[olive wraith]

Not me

[lean heart]

thane felt stinky too

[olive wraith]

But ya what can said

[red berry]

thane will be stinky until it is redesigned or buffed through the roof

[olive wraith]

It needs you

[oblique thistle]

valid

[chilly fractal]

Arms already needs him

[oblique thistle]

from first read it seems like you should be getting a decent feedback loop of TBs generating more TBs

[chilly fractal]

You are asking too much of God

[summer quail]

nahh it never procs

it's so garbage

[young swan]

yeah it just doesnt proc

[oblique thistle]

that blows actaully

[red berry]

and since seismic is fixed

[young swan]

and also it doesnt reset the cd

[red berry]

thunder blast is a bit weaker

[young swan]

so it doesnt really matter all that much

if it worked like SD it would be pretty nuts

[lean heart]

yup when it does proc u still gotta sit thru the cd

[red berry]

not helping an already underwhelming spec

[oblique thistle]

I'd be okay with sitting through the cd if the procs were frequent enough

[olive wraith]

What’s the cd on Tb?

[chilly fractal]

Do we know if it’s intentionally a really low proc rate? From the wording of the set bonus it should be fairly often

[young swan]

its like 4 seconds or something

[slim coral]

Forum rant time

W

[chilly fractal]

Or do I have the reading comprehension of a child

[slim coral]

I can already tell fury is gonna be dogshit in m+ for now

[olive wraith]

Probably too broken if you reduce it to 2 seconds I guess

[lean heart]

i think the problem is you get TB from BT and BT is low prio

[oblique thistle]

right where we belong

[olive wraith]

It’s not as low prio as slayer

Afaik

[red berry]

im curious to see what changes they plan for the spec

[summer quail]

35% per tblast is pretty low with how little we press it

[red berry]

idk if we will see that nedxt week

[olive wraith]

I doubt it’ll be next week

We still a few months out

[red berry]

we are, yeah

[oblique thistle]

And anything we do get will probably not be major, some small tweaks here and there most likely if I had to guess

[olive wraith]

Prot is down worse somehow

[summer quail]

also i wonder if is just a flat 20% and doesn't count each ionizing strike individually

[young swan]

prob worse than we are currently

[olive wraith]

Even slayer?

[chilly fractal]

Buff that 35% to 100% and we’re cooking

[young swan]

slayer is better but we're still relatively worse off

thane is basically the same, slayer is slightly better

and everyone else got stronger

[olive wraith]

Like s3 slayer is worse than current thane?

[young swan]

s2: slayer---thane-----------everyone else
s3 slayer-thane-----------------everyone else

[slim coral]

I've seen multiple specs doing 5m+ on ST

[young swan]

slayer got closer, thane stayed the same, everyone else got stronger

[lapis slate]

Our time is coming brothers, 2 weeks from now we get giga changes

[summer quail]

some of the new tiersets for other classes are nuts. the aldrachi dh one for example

[olive wraith]

Ya blizzard said multiple classes are getting changed

We are one surely

[lapis slate]

Surely

[oblique thistle]

hey now, back up, prot needed that rework first ok

[sudden tusk]

idk a lot of people are not happy with the prot changes

[oblique thistle]

ik lol

[fading sky]

I mean surely in st they make sure dmg gap isnt to bad

[sudden tusk]

the removal of the only thing that made prot interesting was certainly a choice

[fading sky]

Yup

[olive wraith]

Baseline challenging shoot is cool

[smoky vale]

what

[fading sky]

Spell block gone is rough

[oblique thistle]

the passive nodes can be addressed by just tuning them, but spell block should just be baseline and replacing it with a 4% spell negate is ridiculous

[smoky vale]

jug

[olive wraith]

Wonder if tough as nails will be big

[sudden tusk]

ive never used it before but this metatonin is kicking my ass

[summer quail]

you mean melatonin?

[sudden tusk]

yeah

oops

meta hell ofa drug

[summer quail]

i need to overdose on melatonin for it to have an effect. but hey if it works even a little bit we take those

[sour frigate]

Its vitamin for sleep

Not big of a deal

[sudden tusk]

its weird

it feels like im giving myself a mild headache

[sour frigate]

[pearl lance]

Hey guys. Do we use Execute just with 3/2 Stacks of MFE? Or everytime its possible to keep Sudden Death up?

[alpine steppe]

You know what's sad, my whole Fury wishlist for next season is Roar and Odyns increased soft cap to 8.

That's all I can expect 😭

I mean I'd also take Fury actually being good at it's target cap but I doubt that will happen.

[north geyser]

my wishlist is give rampage funnel damage

[thick fossil]

Considering how many things got nerfed, I can see why. Yes it ultimately will come down to tuning, but as is it looks like a slap in the face.

[undone flower]

Thank you God, but Spell Block will not come back, next season gonna be a test from you for us prot war

[plush zephyr]

yay im never doing another delve till next season

shit content lmao

[undone flower]

You did high delve ?

Is it still melee swing hell ?

[cosmic sundial]

Fairly certain the conditions are:

1. 3 stacks of MFE
2. To keep Ashen Jug up
3. 2 stacks of SD

But I just hit execute when the wa dings

[plush zephyr]

the worst is the pylons stacked back to back and they chunk you for half health and if ads are on you and bran is being an idiot and you dont have spell reflect up - you die lol

[thick fossil]

You can storm bolt or Shockwave em.

[plush zephyr]

feel like they jacked up the amount of ads with spell abilities

[cosmic sundial]

Idk once I had gear t11 delves were laughable

[thick fossil]

I did overcharged 11, and didn't have any issues.

[plush zephyr]

usually out of those bc im pulling everything like an idiot

i tried a t11 on my mage

idk how those players are doing it solo

without it taking a fucking year

[radiant plank]

reddit opinion

[plush zephyr]

im just happy they weren't time gated

delves are garbage dawg

[pearl lance]

My WA Dings just at 3Stacks of MFE. There is a better Version?

[undone flower]

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[vernal laurel]

We joke, but good changes are coming

We will get Bloodlust, soft capped 8 target meat cleaver, redesigned capstones and SMF made an cosmetic option

Mark my words

[clever belfry]

cope buddy

[sour frigate]

@dense elbow time to gear fury LESGOOOO

[warm crag]

ander yayer you have unsubscribed since december 2023

[clever belfry]

november 2016

[clever path]

people still play this ?

[summer quail]

lmao you joined just to ask that?

[plush zephyr]

yup

[plush zephyr]

they're just making sure ok

[clever path]

i used to play warrior in WoD

[plush zephyr]

welcome back

[clever path]

heard lots of bad complaints since leaving into hibernation

thanks

Does warrior fucks now?

[plush zephyr]

you won't hear much good, ppl are pretty negative and harsh on wow that don't actually play lol

[clever path]

So I am on the wrong server ? I thought people on this server play the game

[plush zephyr]

people who do play, for the most part love it and just have their own personal criticisms for their class or spec but the game is in a good spot and more stuff to do than ever imo

[lapis slate]

No time to play the game, too busy complaining on forums

[clever path]

Mkay

But overall will people be fighting over me if I queue up into dungeons as a dps warrior ?

or brace for being last choice

[plush zephyr]

we do, im on my frost dk +

[plush zephyr]

no

[clever path]

I cannont for the life of me play a decaying flesh knight because I already smell irl, only to have it projected in game would kill me

[plush zephyr]

turbo boost + lvl 80 alt exp boost + time walking event = insane alting