fury

[whole yacht]

you gotta show me the logs after

im curious

[fast mural]

impossible to parse

[tepid cedar]

wil be easu

i had a 1 pull 1 attempt bandit and hit 98 weeks ago

[whole yacht]

also. im 668. so i literally cant compete in parses, but have no desire to gear more

i did higher keys, but raid theres no desire for me

[fast mural]

thats when people still did the add strat

[whole yacht]

so i wanna live vicariously through you apo

[tepid cedar]

so i should contend for an r1 on bandit without ppl doing add strat

[tepid cedar]

yeah,m we didnt do that

[tepid cedar]

hows ur keys going

i finally pushed 2 16 keys, lol first time pushing since week 2 lolol

[whole yacht]

16's ish

[tepid cedar]

i wanan run some tonight hopely with the new belt and extra mast

but i bet wi still ass

[whole yacht]

i can run some on my hunter with you

[tepid cedar]

so much easier playing arms.

[whole yacht]

get a rogue and run physical god comp

i think i have a 15 on my hunter

[tepid cedar]

last week, i did some 17 cinder opening pulls to test

i topped at 15 mil on fury

[whole yacht]

yeah my highest on fury was 16m

[tepid cedar]

non arms gear / optimized, i hit 24 mil as arms

and it made it so muich easier

[whole yacht]

fury is definitely nothing compared to others on aoe dmgh

[tepid cedar]

with fury the tank and healer were yelling for help lol

legit with a crit ring and crit neck. probably hit 30 mil on arms

so unfair

lol

[tepid cedar]

lets do it

i have a 16 rook

[whole yacht]

word. lemme know when. i can dm you my btag

[tepid cedar]

dm me. later on. i need to get some shit done around the house

[whole yacht]

all g. i have all night

[tepid cedar]

ill be on til like 1 am est. i ahve a fkn 48 hour shift coming up 😦

[whole yacht]

im usually on till 12 - 12:30 EST

[marble pilot]

Cope ing that they are coming and are just not ready yet. Still 6 weeks of ptr.

[undone flower]

We are not ready

[whole yacht]

theres no way they just ignore fury

[tepid cedar]

lol

they gona increase WW dmg

[undone flower]

They ignored brew for quite some time

[tepid cedar]

and increase onslaught by 20%

since we all use onslaught u know

wow dev thinking

[trail bane]

Im just wondering how you think an unused ability becomes a used ability.

If they buffed Onslaught by 500000% would you still be mad about that because we dont use Onslaught?

[undone flower]

I would be mad if we use onslaught

[tepid cedar]

the problem is not that it gets buffed

the probelm is how the tree is laid out

and we lose valuable points

in more important stuff

ur then force to lose UF and DI

[fast mural]

dw next expac we get 10 more skillpoints and can get everything

[tepid cedar]

only to spec into onslaught without a cap stone

[trail bane]

If Onslaught becomes better than Depths of Insanity, we havnt lost any valuable points. We swapped one point from one thing that maximized our dmg, to another point that maximized our dmg.

[undone flower]

They should do like prot, delete capstone row

And move good things around/make it baked into ability talent

[dense elbow]

I kinda disagree. I like that they allow us to in theory invest more for specialised DPS tools

[sullen dove]

who using uf

[dense elbow]

problem is their tuning to do that, on the nodes themselves, are off by a mile

[sullen dove]

That shi miiiid

[tepid cedar]

i use UF

[dense elbow]

The last node point should be the payoff node, where it goes from "meh" to "omg yes!"

[trail bane]

A big part of the problem FunkyKitty is that we have 3 abilities dependant on our capstones, and those abilities by themselves are kinda mid.

Which is why its good that they buff baseline Onslaught and Odens Fury

Because then the capstone talents behind them can become specialised dps tools

[undone flower]

I think OF already is a specialized tool just put enrage on it boom

You can delete the capstone

[dense elbow]

OF doesnt really need baseline buffs. I want OF buffed. But I want it in form of TR getting a better modifier.

Instead of buffing OF baseline 50%, make TR from 10% to 60%

[trail bane]

And then the argument becomes that why not just bake the capstones into the abilities and make the abilities themselves capstones. Or give the abilities baseline.

[dense elbow]

Sure you could, but ppl dont mind building up power. If the payoff is good.

[covert blaze]

who up unbridling they ferocity

[trail bane]

Most of our capstones are dependant on other stuff

Which is kinda weird

[undone flower]

Like 8 more sec of reck big fun capstone yay

[dense elbow]

As it is now, I get why ppl hate it. As they all piss weak

[trail bane]

8? try 4

cries in a corner

[calm swallow]

So is the PTS already out and people are testing out the new sets?

[dense elbow]

They dont work atm

[fading sky]

Of capstone = every 2 seconds for 10 seconds u cast reap

[dense elbow]

so ya better wait a bit

[dense elbow]

I will strangle you

[fading sky]

5 insta aoes

[dense elbow]

Why make OF bound to the tuning of another ability.

[undone flower]

Oh yes it’s 4 (absolutely impossible to put this talent on the ability, I couldn’t see how it would be done)

[dense elbow]

Just dont

[compact knot]

the whole reason OF got nerfed was because it was too much instant aoe burst

xdd

[dense elbow]

Bladestorm is now bound to the tuning of BT, thanks to unhinged. You dont want OF to be bound to freaking Reap.

[fading sky]

10 seconds

Is not burst

[trail bane]

Whats even worse Happy is that for some god damn reason, 4 sec longer reck gives us more dps than adding a "capstone" ability like Onslaught or Odyns Fury to our rotation

Making the rotation more complex should always be one of the biggest dps gains imo

[fading sky]

So then reap for slayer

[trail bane]

Not 4 seconds extra duration on a buff

[fading sky]

Thunderblast for thane

[dense elbow]

Just stop, The gokke

[fading sky]

🤣

[dense elbow]

I beg

[undone flower]

They are bound by their capstone smh no ?

[dense elbow]

you are hurting my brain

[fading sky]

Imagine the lightning show

Clap clap clap clap

True earth wind and fire

[dense elbow]

Then they tune TB, now OF is OP, and got to be nerfed baseline

just stop

They buff reap? Well, better nerf OF

No, just no

stop

I dont mind the idea of OF pulses its damage over 10 sec, as much as your fucking idea

[fading sky]

For every target of hits u bt

[dense elbow]

I give up, I know you trolling, but I am triggered

[fading sky]

Now u never press bt coz it sucks and only rbrbrbrrb

🤣

[dense elbow]

Oh fuck me, why not, make OF now cast RB and be cast by RB

OF by casting RB

hell yeah! RB RB RB

[fading sky]

Loop

[undone flower]

Next expac : RB cast BT with 30% effectiveness

[fading sky]

Haha

[dense elbow]

RB casts Rampage every 3 RBs

[fading sky]

Rampage echoes per tsrget hit

Not a bleed

Its an echo

[woven valley]

I still hate that our jackpot buff this tier wasn’t “adds more strikes to your rampage” when you hit a jackpot lol 😂 would have been amazing to get lucky and do like 3 rampages worth of hits

[olive wraith]

Remove rb and bt. Only builder is anni

[dense elbow]

Fun detected. Blizzard will ban you soon.

[fading sky]

Actually a 12 strike rampage comvæbo

[olive wraith]

Who needs a 1 button rotation helper if you have no buttons

[loud locust]

i have a question, so when i look at the overall BIS it saids for the new belt to use charged bolts, but im currently doing m+ and it wants me also to do critical chain which one should i use?

[tiny seal]

mugzee adds dont count anymore for logs right?

[fading sky]

U play fury?

[loud locust]

yes

[fading sky]

Doesnt matter then

[dense elbow]

Just take the ST option

[fading sky]

Dmg is shit no matter what

[dense elbow]

do better what we do kinda ok

[loud locust]

my meters say otherwise

iv been dominating the keys so far

[dense elbow]

Trying to improve our AoE is like pissing against the wind

you might feel you do better doing so

[fading sky]

Then u play with scrubs

[dense elbow]

but ya making a fool out of yourself

[loud locust]

i outclassed a ret pally

[marble pilot]

Is there a list of the new trinkets for season 3 yet?

[loud locust]

that should tell you sometihng

[fading sky]

Ara kara

Bis

[marble pilot]

Well yeah but I wanna see the new ones

[fading sky]

Ret pally was blind?

[dense elbow]

"Guys, I won on DPS meters vs a one armed, lame and brain damaged donkey on life support" Fury warrior OP.

[fading sky]

1 button rotation mby

[dense elbow]

And no gear

[fading sky]

True

Coz ret fucks

[dense elbow]

Meh, lets be positive instead tho

[undone flower]

5 by 5 pulls

[dense elbow]

Let J enjoy it while he can

There is this zone where fury can beat ppl regularly

cause players bad/inexperienced/notplaying

[fading sky]

7-10?

[undone flower]

Yes it is ret zone too tbf

[fading sky]

Y

[dense elbow]

I presume I can beat most ppl in like a 12

Maybe

[fading sky]

Did a 15 top as arms...

[undone flower]

I did a 14 or 15 the other day I was first

[dense elbow]

I do 5million overalls, after all

[fading sky]

Ret fucked me..

[loud locust]

i just dont know why yall hating on fury

[dense elbow]

We dont hate on fury, we hate the situation we are in as fury

there is a difference

[fading sky]

Its fun to play

[undone flower]

It is not hating, it is really bad in m+

[loud locust]

tbh any class can be S tier if you know how to play it right

[fading sky]

No

[dense elbow]

No nonono

[undone flower]

But it is fun to play

[dense elbow]

nooooooooooooooh--hohoho no

[loud locust]

yeeeeees

now dont get me wrong

[fading sky]

Do u c critcakes streams?

[undone flower]

Maybe not the spec who does tank damage in big pulls

[dense elbow]

Even Noxiv, our top ranked and best warrior in m+... well look it up

it aint pretty

[marble pilot]

You could be an S tier warrior. That doesnt mean warrior is S tier

[loud locust]

warriors all toether have shit utility

but damage wise is pretty good

if you got the smarts and gear

[fading sky]

Utility is least of our xoncerns

[undone flower]

Only Loboz is S

[dense elbow]

Damage is pretty good...

k

[loud locust]

yea

[fading sky]

U said i was trollin

[dense elbow]

I mean, if we define pretty good as bottom, but not by too far

sure

pretty good

[loud locust]

but i feel like yall get yalls info from a tier list that goes off of popularity

[dense elbow]

like watered out tomato soup. Edible. Pretty good.

[loud locust]

so theres no helping

[fading sky]

Last below tanks

[tight idol]

Rage baiting fs

[fading sky]

Prot warrior can prob beat fury

[dense elbow]

We get info from tierlists. When I sourced our prominent fury warrior?

I think I smell

[fading sky]

On massive pulls

[dense elbow]

a fisherman

[loud locust]

no shit its a tank

[fading sky]

A ret

[loud locust]

that fight would go on for ever

[fading sky]

I said pull as in. +

[dense elbow]

Oh we talking raid? Sure, Fury is fine? But J came in talking M+

[undone flower]

I do beat fury players when I tank

[fading sky]

First pull floodgate i dare u 2 beat prot war

[undone flower]

On big pulls

[dense elbow]

Not me tho, cause I spin to win

[loud locust]

easy

done it before

[dense elbow]

I beat tanks 3/4 times

[loud locust]

do it again

[hushed gust]

Sounds like a shit fury then.

[fading sky]

M8

[undone flower]

That’s exactly the pull I have in my mind

[fading sky]

Col prot does a lot of dmg

Like a lot

[dense elbow]

Lot a lot

[fading sky]

Fury hits 5 targets

[loud locust]

and iv been maining warrior for 20 years with all specs, now warriro tank can do alot of damage but with a big idiot spamming as a tank will not beat a fury war that has exp

[undone flower]

Stretch your arms to tell us if it’s a lot or

[dense elbow]

I have been maining warrior for 21 years, so meh

[fading sky]

<==================>

[dense elbow]

I disagree

[fading sky]

Hm since tbc

[loud locust]

it all has to do on skill

[fading sky]

Here

No

[loud locust]

unless you play ret pally

[dense elbow]

To be honest, I didnt even read what he wrote

I presume it was some ragebait

[loud locust]

a dumbass can play ret

[dense elbow]

[undone flower]

I’ve been playing fury for 6 months

[loud locust]

and be good

im being dead ass when i say this

i think a warrior with the right gear can outperform anyone if the player knows how to do it

[fading sky]

Ok j_von whats name of ya xhar

[dense elbow]

The right gear being: Next seasons BiS gear, then maybe

[undone flower]

Are you rage baiting, bc you 100% got us

[dense elbow]

If everyone else is trapped with s2

[fading sky]

Coz the very very best we got cant

[unborn delta]

not true, evoker without a brain pressing hekili buttons will outdps perfectly geared warrior

[loud locust]

DrØnux-Stormrage

and btw i just got done running a 8 dungeon and outperformed everyone in it with no BIS weapons

this is an alt too

[dense elbow]

That is you?

[unborn delta]

wym by 8

[dense elbow]

I dont want to be mean

but yeah

[loud locust]

an 8

[dense elbow]

Figures

[unborn delta]

u mean 18 right

[dense elbow]

Btw, guys, dont attack DrØnux-Stormrage. Clearly J_Von just trying to throw him under the buss.

Dont fall for it.

[loud locust]

no only people with a shit ton of time and no job can run 10 and higher

you know that

[unborn delta]

he's just ragebaiting atp

[fading sky]

He got us guys

[dense elbow]

I am sure Drønux is just having fun

[loud locust]

i swear to god im not

why you say that

[unborn delta]

you can do 10s in vet gear

[dense elbow]

Cause it is ragebait

[loud locust]

i think you just been fed the same shit everyone been easting and only go for the classes that are in the tier lists

[fading sky]

Because if u cant do above a 10

[hushed gust]

I’m still able to comfortably hit 2nd place in 13’s. If the UH DK or the Balance Druid knows what they’re doing, they’re going to win, sure, but that doesn’t matter when the next pull is dog water for them and they have no cooldowns.

Fury’s consistent 45 second burst beat is why we’re better than people truly think. That consistency will hold up over a full slice better than a gigapull and nothing else the next pack.

[dense elbow]

you talk about 'being good' and you show us a bellow avg character

[fading sky]

U are horrid

[dense elbow]

TheGokke dont fall for it

he trying to make you talk bad about someone random

Stay strong

[loud locust]

well i havent touched this char since the begining of s2 and i dominated the first dungeon i was in

[dense elbow]

I am glad for you buddy

ya did it, bud

[unborn delta]

we suck at m+ because of the stupid target cap

except for loboz he outdps unhdks

[loud locust]

aint gonna get me FunkyKitty

ik what ur doin

[dense elbow]

Whos my little man, J man is!

[undone flower]

Yes it is rage baiting, can we just talk about fury ptr new stuff

[unborn delta]

whats new

[undone flower]

[loud locust]

i mean im not ragebaiting i was just coming in here to ask a question then started shitting on my class

[red escarp]

anyone can give me their fury MT for delves?

[undone flower]

Something on 2 charge ravager tooltip is new

[unborn delta]

just use prot

[red escarp]

talent tree

[dense elbow]

You are clearly just ragebaiting, grandstanding on the corpse of some random dude

[unborn delta]

prot is so much better for delving if u need gilded

and if you are just doing belt then do it on 1s and u 1shote verything regardless

[loud locust]

well you are clearly blind cause when i say im not ragebaiting im not

[dense elbow]

A random dude that is only doing prot warrior?

The plot thiccens

[loud locust]

lit just came in here to ask a question

[undone flower]

And below average prot

[dense elbow]

Ask away, but dont try to grandstand

[hushed gust]

Use either WoWhead build.

[dense elbow]

Stop attacking the innocent civilian!

Happy shame on you

[undone flower]

Yes sorry

[loud locust]

not grandstanding i just think cause of a tier list you automatically go to saying a class is shit

[fading sky]

Lel

[dense elbow]

No, we base it on actual gameplay and experience. Not to mention data.

[fading sky]

U do know we say it coz we play it

[unborn delta]

for super high m+ we are shit though bc of the target cap

[undone flower]

@drønux im sorry

[unborn delta]

we don't sim above like 9m on 10million targets

[loud locust]

so when you say exp do you mean other peoples opinions they tell you?

[dense elbow]

Clealry, mr buddy bud

[fading sky]

Play experience, as dk

And warrior

[unborn delta]

ayy dk-warr gang

[fading sky]

Arms and fury

[hushed gust]

When was the last time you did a 17?

[unborn delta]

last week

[marble pilot]

Data wise fury is bad right now.
It is still a pretty popular spec cause its fun though.
Fury might hit S tier fun but it is objectively not good in higher end m+ right now.

[dense elbow]

So mr J. You thrown your buddy under the buss. Mind asking your all important question, or?

[unborn delta]

i did 4.1m and the evoker and druid did like 5.1m

[dense elbow]

I hope Drø doesnt get lashed for this

I really do

[loud locust]

well if you play warrior for as long you say you do you should know that the class/spec can be outperforming other classes

[dense elbow]

Only if they are shit

as we already stated

[fading sky]

Same skill level no.

[dense elbow]

Or sure, gear difference could be large enough

But on equal terms?

Hell no

[fading sky]

Thats.mathematicly impossible🤣

[dense elbow]

So what is your question, mr J?

Ever gonna come to it or

[hushed gust]

We’re not dead last. Shadow and Aug are still down here with us.

[unborn delta]

aug still got mega utility

[loud locust]

well theres the thing a class vs another class cant be identically equal to eacherother

[fading sky]

Aug was above

[loud locust]

cause they are diff

[dense elbow]

Aug is above Fury on potential, but Fury is on avg above Aug

[loud locust]

i can get why wars are not on top cause of the utility that IS needed for a higher up key

[marble pilot]

SO what if you compare Fury to only other Fury then Fury is in a good place?

[fading sky]

Because aug plays with fury

[unborn delta]

its not even about warrior uitility

arms does fine in 20s

[dense elbow]

Our dam is lowend

it is pretty grim

[unborn delta]

its our target cap hamstringing us

[fading sky]

Arms is mid

[undone flower]

i sim 9 m as prot on 10 target

[dense elbow]

Mr. J, tho, please

your question

[unborn delta]

idk if a fury has even completed a 21 thegokke

[dense elbow]

not more statements

[unborn delta]

and arms does plenty

[loud locust]

nobody really cares about how much damage a tank does cause your just a distraction

[unborn delta]

lol

[loud locust]

so the DPS can do damage

[dense elbow]

Mr J, focus

hey hey

buddy

focus

Question

ask away

[fading sky]

Thing is, that 21 is carried by others dmg

Anything above 10%

Is carry

Well tbh prov 5%

[dense elbow]

I will argue the player is pulling his own weight, even if it is a handicap comparably to other potential better picks

[undone flower]

but it is true arms does way better

[dense elbow]

come on

[fading sky]

Orob true

U are correct

[dense elbow]

Good, we respect the grinders

They skilled af

[loud locust]

and tbh i dont really care about 18's cause theres no really good point to run higher than 10

[dense elbow]

Omg

please

[undone flower]

yes respect fury pushers

[dense elbow]

the question

J

the question

[loud locust]

aint no question

[fading sky]

Lets just ban no point

[chilly fractal]

What’s the question?

[dense elbow]

You said you had one J

spit it out

[loud locust]

i asked before, maybe if you wernt shitting on a class/spec you wouldv seen it

[dense elbow]

Oh fuck me, I am done with J

[fading sky]

But in 10s with bad tanks fury can out dps s tier dk

[dense elbow]

(actually true)

[fading sky]

Prob even slayer

[dense elbow]

DK that doesnt get to hit, poor lads

Hoy! Slayer does good damage!

I do good damage

[fading sky]

I know

[unborn delta]

20 years and can't do a 10

[fading sky]

Esp in a 10

I tried

[dense elbow]

Swell, dont fall for it

[fading sky]

And won

[dense elbow]

he is ragebaiting

he aint Drøner

or whatever the name was

[fading sky]

He is a ret paladin main

[dense elbow]

he is using him as a targetdummy for us

[unborn delta]

oh

[dense elbow]

hoping we attack him

[unborn delta]

his question was if the 1 button rotation is good for fury

lmao

[fading sky]

Lool

[dense elbow]

...

[unborn delta]

it sucks for us sadly

[dense elbow]

It isnt very good, sadly.

is the answer

[unborn delta]

hekili is decent though if you just click the buttons

the gcd nerf is huge for us

[fading sky]

Button assist

Is good use that

[unborn delta]

i still leave hekilli on bc its a good cd/proc reminder

[dense elbow]

Fair, noone gonna hate on that

[unborn delta]

but it gets a couple things wrong/doesnt hold cds for boss-specific phases

[chilly fractal]

If you pay me I could hate on it as devils advocate even though I do the same thing

[dense elbow]

Meh, I dont like it personally. But I get why some would

I try not to judge

[unborn delta]

im also new to the spec and wow in general, started playing super casually in TWW and got CE for the first time this phase

[hushed gust]

For an average person with no disabilities, you shouldn’t need a rotation aid for Fury. It’s bullshit easy, and the bigger aids should be on spell reflect. The only think you have to learn is discipline with your cooldowns, and to press rampage and bloodthirst as much as possible.

[unborn delta]

so i need that reminder

[dense elbow]

It becomes muscle memory shortly, dont worry

[fading sky]

I mean a no weakaura

Fury warrior conditionals would annoy me

But kachin solves

[chilly fractal]

Sometimes Hekili is just nice to help me out when I’m looking at YouTube on my other monitor

[dense elbow]

Now you can make a 1button youtube button for em farm keys

[hushed gust]

You don’t need a WA for all those conditionals, though. You can have enrage show up on your mini health bar, and that’s all you need to see.

[chilly fractal]

Just YOLO it

[fading sky]

U loose dmg though

By not playin perfectly

Less zug is bad

But u can ignore em and still play decent y

[hushed gust]

As a 3k warrior who has played fury for 10 years, I will guarantee you don’t care about all that other shit, as long as you can keep your cooldowns discipline and manage your enrage.

[fading sky]

And most content with decent parses

I mean in raid it deffo matters

[undone flower]

it is not smart (tbf it is smarter to BT as first gcd if you are not enraged)

[fading sky]

In m+ less as the difference between bt and rb in aoe is tiny

And thane doenst rly struggle with this

[hushed gust]

My guy, i’ma just chock you up to a goobnugget and move on. Even in raid, you simply prioritize bloodthirst over raging blow because of cold steel, hot blood and the execute phase.

[fading sky]

What?

Thats insane?

Rb buffs bt and ramp

[sand crest]

ragebait used to be believable

2/10

[dense elbow]

We got another ragebait, only a few min after the 1st

[sand crest]

ye thats crazy ngl

[fading sky]

He is 3k guts

He did 12s

[chilly fractal]

GUTS do do do you have it GUTS

[hushed gust]

You still hit Raging Blow, you just hit Bloodthirst first. You’re likely to get one or two Raging Blows in before Rampage anyway. You still use all your buttons.

[gilded pawn]

My guy, i’ma just chock you up to a goobnugget and move on. Even in raid, you simply prioritize bloodthirst over raging blow because of cold steel, hot blood and the execute phase.

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/berserk-guts-berserk-griffith-punching-guts-punching-griffith-gif-27000236

[sand crest]

My guy, i’ma just chock you up to a goobnugget and move on. Even in raid, you simply prioritize bloodthirst over raging blow because of cold steel, hot blood and the execute phase.

[fading sky]

🤣

[vague sierra]

Team raging blow assemble

[chilly fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/nickelodeon-guts-gif-10656347

[sand crest]

new copy pasta unlocked

I like this one

[dense elbow]

I wonder why so many bring up "i am 3k", as if 3k isnt old 1500

its kinda weird

[fading sky]

Ikr

[sand crest]

ngl bragging about 3k is like bragging about aotc

[whole yacht]

a good chunk of the population cannot get 3k

[dense elbow]

Hm, cant or dont bother

big difference there mate

[whole yacht]

the amount of pugs i run into that cant for the life of them do a 12

[fading sky]

🤣

[whole yacht]

literally cannot

[dense elbow]

Well, based on the statements I seen ppl come with today

[hushed gust]

It’s not a brag. I rarely ever bring it up, but it does show that I at least know how to play the class.

[dense elbow]

I will believe you

[sand crest]

same for aotc, doesnt mean the content is objectively hard tho, especially end of tier

[whole yacht]

do you know how many pugs still fail 10's?

[fading sky]

Sadly no

It shows u can pilot char

[dense elbow]

Lemon, how many 10s you ruined to bring us that data point?

[chilly fractal]

Any that I join /s

[fading sky]

4 ppl can time a 12

[dense elbow]

Well, 3ppl easily can time a 12

[whole yacht]

no content is "objectively hard". wow hasnt been "a hard game" in a long time.

[fading sky]

Prob

[modest condor]

oh another bait

[fading sky]

Yup

[dense elbow]

We gotten so many today

is a good day for fishin'

[sand crest]

its raining baits tonight

lucky us

[fading sky]

Its not hard

Just play perfect

[modest condor]

2 baits in a single message even

first saying that there is no hard content and then implying that wow used to be harder in the past

[fading sky]

Classic

[vague sierra]

Literally fishing in a barrel of fish. Ragebaiting people who rage constantly.

[whole yacht]

wow is subjectively hard. not objectively.

[fading sky]

Information was harder to come by. There by being informed how to play was harder

[modest condor]

enrage is my class fantasy after all

[dense elbow]

To be fair, we live to rage

[chilly fractal]

When the difficulty was having enough time to min/max /s

[hushed gust]

Fireball fireball fireball. Wait- generating too much aggro… fireball fireball fireball…

[haughty glacier]

Was it ever hard? let's get real it's PVE, AI / bots, scripted content 😉 it's never really hard.

[fading sky]

Ah the pvp rage

[whole yacht]

its not just pve tho

[dense elbow]

Oohh, that is basically fly-fishing

"PvE isnt hard, PvP is" usually nips at least a couple of guys

[modest condor]

[hushed gust]

I can see the argument, at least. Knowing other class’s stuff is hard for some PvE people. Imagine all the times people waste an interrupt on a cast about to hit spell reflect.

[fading sky]

Objective is simple

Kill boss

Now getting 20 ppl to work together as a unit

No where in life is that easy

[modest condor]

pvp is easy because pvp is against people and people are stupid while pve is against robots and robots are always perfect

[chilly fractal]

PVP in any online game is easy… just find whoever you are playing against and cut their Internet or DDoS your opponents

[whole yacht]

TRUE

thats how i won a csgo tournament

i just unplugged the dudes monitor

[chilly fractal]

I mean… good luck winning without a plugged in monitor

[whole yacht]

exactly

[modest condor]

gotta think outside the box

in pve people just call you a cheater if you try to think outside the box

[whole yacht]

how is me getting 105 aimed shot procs in a row cheating?

[sour frigate]

outside the @south kayak

[covert blaze]

W

[fading sky]

Many pvper use bots

😅

[charred estuary]

cant tell because details is broken on ptr

But is this something for M+?

I'm just using RA and spamming Crushing blow

its like 3 stack Sudden Death > 100% crit BT > Crushing Blow >>>> Rampage

[chilly fractal]

They should have T Blast automatically use Rampage

Shower thoughts

[hushed gust]

Personally, I just prefer the feel of anger management over Reckless Abandon. If one is better than the other, sure, but I just like having twice as many bladestorms.

[olive wraith]

Ya you’re gonna want am still I’m pretty sure

Overwhelmed uptime is gonna be hard to beat

[charred estuary]

The thing I dont like with am is that often in the key ranges im doing I get it back when mobs are at 10%

and then you're wasting all that cdr anyways holding it for next pack since you want 10 stacks right on open

[olive wraith]

Is this for live?

[charred estuary]

Yeah for live but it would be true next patch too

since the cdr comes from slayer tree

[summer quail]

yea it's something i suppose. not something good, but something

[olive wraith]

I mean bladestorm cdr is already kinda funky

[charred estuary]

Yeah my point

very rarely do I get 2 bladestorms per pack without gimping the next big pull

[lean bluff]

Why is the bottom row of fury such dogshit? (besides unhinge)

[charred estuary]

because its all from like 2021

[gilded pawn]

They all keep getting nerfed

[charred estuary]

that too

[olive wraith]

If you’re blowing things up then sure RA is gonna be fine

Burst is good if things fall over

[charred estuary]

I mean yeah but even in a 15 lets say You could get two bladestorms in a big pull, but then at the end of the pack you're holding the last bladestorm bc you need it for open on the next

[hushed gust]

Yeah, having 2 CD reductions on one button, making it de sync from everything is a big feels bad.

[charred estuary]

Feels like there's so much wasted cdr, which is why I dont mind that tblast is the spec atm

[charred estuary]

Imagine if we had two charges without getting the button nerfed by 30%

[olive wraith]

That’s just a trade off that’s worth making though. You might not have a BS ready immediately on the next pull but it’ll be up relatively quick

[charred estuary]

I get that its numerically worth it

but it feels like dogshit

turns off your tier set procs in 11.2 until you get it too

[hushed gust]

Again, I’m only talking about the perspective of a 13. I just don’t have to community to try 14’s with a bottom tier spec, but yeah- I’ve noticed that if the pack is generally around 20%, it’s just not worth using the CD’s to begin with. I could see the opposite being true in 15’s, though. Wanting to blast the pack down and get some CDr in for the next pack.

The question then becomes, though, why are you playing slayer in a 15?

[charred estuary]

I mean im not

I wish I could

That's why im on the ptr testing things that could hypothetically work without the stinky desync

[hushed gust]

Not saying anyone is, but it is a question to present to said hypothetical.

I’ve seen some people try and validate it as a priority damage build, but I don’t see that working in something higher than a 12, TBH.

[charred estuary]

It could be a thing though with both RB and BT giving you a bladestorm tick

[olive wraith]

MoE also applies overwhelmed

[charred estuary]

and if the slayer cdr didnt desync you, and you had clean 45/90 cds I could it see it being really good

[olive wraith]

Isn’t that the case for a bunch of classes

Of course not having all your big cds up on the second pull feels bad

But it happens to everyone (not ret)

[charred estuary]

I mean sure

but its only happening because of the slayer talent that's supposed to be helping

That's kinda my angle here with trying out RA stuff

[olive wraith]

If you had a 90 second cd you wouldn’t have it up for 2nd pull either

So I’m having a hard time understanding what exactly you dislike

[charred estuary]

I can tell

The problem is with bladestorm you often have to hold it and continue to rampage

so the cdr is wasted

[hushed gust]

Doing 2 Bladestorms doesn’t really line up well with your 45 second burst beat, so it feels like you’re either wasting CDr or a reckless and roar window.

[charred estuary]

^

The right way to play bladestorm imo should line you up with 45s windows

[dusty cove]

Do I want to stack slaughtering strikes to x5 before rampage everytime?

[olive wraith]

Ignore slaughtering strikes

[charred estuary]

Honestly I wish that the MoE stacks just did anything else besides cdr on bladestorm

[dusty cove]

ah okay

[olive wraith]

So you just hate slayer

[charred estuary]

I mean no

[olive wraith]

Not AM vs RA

[charred estuary]

I hate desycning cds

[lean bluff]

reap the storm is fun, desyncing isn't. the cdr is there but is completely useless. you're either being intentionally dense or rage baiting.

[charred estuary]

^

[hushed gust]

It’s very much a matter of feel and fun, not numbers

At least for me

[olive wraith]

The conversation started with am vs ra

And turned into cds desyncing

[charred estuary]

It's the same thing brother

[olive wraith]

Which is literally a part of slayer kit so that’s not new

[charred estuary]

am makes them desync

ra doesnt

those two things are intertwined

[olive wraith]

No base slayer has bs desync

[charred estuary]

Yeah but it works out to be about 45

so it lines with roar and reck

it was the M+ build in season 1

[winter shoal]

You didn't play AM in season 1

[charred estuary]

exactly

[olive wraith]

Whatever you say

[charred estuary]

yeah gg

[hushed gust]

Sudden Death and Anger Management are working to further reduce Baldestorm’s cooldown on top of Mark’s CDr, so it’s more reduction now than s1. Because of that, it just feels a tad off.

[quiet geyser]

What?

[hushed gust]

Even the 3 stacks argument falls apart when you realize you’re going to hit it anyway when you get your second sudden death, and that will consume the stacks.

[quiet geyser]

Its legit the exact same thing as s1

[olive wraith]

I seem to recall Bs desyncing with reck in s1

[hushed gust]

We took neither talent in m+ Slayer last season. Yes, we’re talking suboptimal builds.

[covert blaze]

m+ slayer lol

[olive wraith]

What

[hushed gust]

Oh, to realize the internet hasn’t aged since 2012.

[winter shoal]

idk from my aoe ptr testing last night, it's looking very likely

thane in the bin

slayer very powerful

[charred estuary]

new thane bonus is doodoo

[winter shoal]

and rb reap proc chance isn't even scaling with target count

[charred estuary]

I feel like there's no way it doesn't get changed

[winter shoal]

slayer was like 10% ahead of thane and there's no way I was even playing it correctly

[hushed gust]

The tier set is a step positive for AoE slayer, but we still have to see what else they do to the spec over-all before release.

[last nacelle]

with ww is do not increase ?

like BT ?

[charred estuary]

Nope

flat 20

[winter shoal]

Correct the tier set rb reap doesn't scale with ww like BT does (currently)

whether that's intended or not idk

[charred estuary]

It's on cast I believe which is the problem

[olive wraith]

Rip bt

[hardy cargo]

My thought too

Back to your rb prison

[charred estuary]

Yeah I mean it literally says RB 20% damage

[hardy cargo]

[charred estuary]

didnt even need to read the rest

Andf without all the rampage bonuses from season 2 gone Im just praying we still press rampage lmfao

[olive wraith]

You will

[hardy cargo]

Well enrage is

[olive wraith]

Cause cdr

[hardy cargo]

Kinda important

[olive wraith]

And ya enrage

[sullen dove]

Please RA time

[charred estuary]

I mean that was clearly a joke but okay

yes enrage is good

[winter shoal]

take it back

say sike right now

[charred estuary]

Yeah new RA is suspect unfortunately

[hardy cargo]

Evil swordfish 😦

[sullen dove]

Revert now

[remote bobcat]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

rank7 98

fuck low pop

[sullen dove]

The fuck is this clip

[hardy cargo]

That shit is art

[winter shoal]

Reverted RA would also be stinky, rework it a 15th time

[remote bobcat]

wrong reply my goat

[winter shoal]

real

[charred estuary]

Ra should literally just be a meaty crit damage bonus instead of CDR

enough that we would care

ezpz

Gives you a haste mastery build and a crit mastery build

[winter shoal]

It would have to be an insane amount of crit multi to make you want to stack crit instead of haste

[oblique trail]

You already get plenty of crit when you need it from Reck

And considering Titan's officially dead, you'd also get an extended Reck during CDs because of Berserkers

[winter shoal]

Surely another TT rework is in order as well right

[sullen dove]

Fury devs when they change two good capstones to be utter dogshit and don’t talk about them for over a season

Well 3 counting odyns ig

onslaught just been bad since like s3 df or some shit

[winter shoal]

s2 innit

[hardy cargo]

S2 bc awakened doesn’t count

[winter shoal]

You didn't play ons in s3

[hardy cargo]

🙂

[sullen dove]

U used it in s2

No use in s3 onward so bad since s3

[winter shoal]

Yeah ig if you mean "since" exclusive vs inclusive

[ vs ( type shit

[sullen dove]

type shii

[hardy cargo]

I deny your logic and place my own in because it’s a longer time period means I can cope more and have more to bitch at blizzard for

We play the victim here

[winter shoal]

Tbf we almost took ons in tww s1

But Revvez cooked a new spec like 3 days before raid launch

[modest condor]

[winter shoal]

Why am I being cluelessed

Is my historical headcanon inaccurate

[modest condor]

because we definitely didnt expect to play onslaught in tww s1

[winter shoal]

in st wasn't it

I'm like 99% sure

and then revvez found that taking more t2 talents was better than ons

[modest condor]

tww s1 was odyns fury with titans torment

[dense fulcrum]

charged bolt or electric current for mugzee myth?

[winter shoal]

for single target?

aint no way

[charred estuary]

Yeah because avatar still had OF attached to it

[remote bobcat]

looks nice doesnt it

[dense elbow]

pwetty

[modest condor]

the very first theorycrafting discussion i can find back about tww already talks about OF being better than onslaught

which is long before the expansion even launched

[dense elbow]

OF prenerfs was so much better than OS, and by a mile

Never really changed from that status

[hushed gust]

OF isn’t bad at the moment, just not a popular pick, because people want to focus on prio damage. Again, I’m not really welcome in 14’s because Fury, but OF’s been doing me good overall in the big pull dungeons.

[dense elbow]

God I wish I was you

I want some of that copium

[hushed gust]

It’s trading 1% of ST for uncapped MT. Since our biggest issue is uncapped MT, it’s not a bad idea below a certain difficulty threshold.

[charred estuary]

Its not just ST though thats the issue

[modest condor]

it's about equal on uncapped aoe and worse on st

the only thing you would want it for is burst

[charred estuary]

so like rashanan

or one armed maybe

but that aoe happens twice in like a 5 min fight

[hushed gust]

Raid is a completely different story, yeah. I’m talking in the context of someone who has his 13’s completed, not cutting edge.

[dense elbow]

OF needs another 30% buff to be aight, and 30% to be in a good spot

dont worry

[olive wraith]

Is there a raid OF build?

[charred estuary]

I highly doubt it

[modest condor]

i mean if you're just doing 13s and you want to play OF then yeah go for it

[dense elbow]

I use OF in 17s, feel free to use it

just accept it aint 'held back because it isnt popular', it aint popular cause it is kinda bad.

[charred estuary]

You need like 3-4 talents to make it do the same damage as the regular buiild

It should have the auto enrage and attack speed built in, with a different split capstone added on top

[olive wraith]

S3 Df pls

[dense elbow]

OF at current powerlevel is ok for its node placement. It should have TR being a +60% damage, node tho.

And things would be fine

[sour elbow]

whhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeere are our fury/arms changes thoooooo

[hushed gust]

Exactly my thoughts, Vain.

[charred estuary]

they're seeing what sticks from these tier sets and keeping them permanently alongside the big changes in 12.0

I hope they keep the Execute -> Slayer Strike combo everything else is meh

[hushed gust]

I’m curious on if we’ll have a mark after the execute or if they’ll try and stack it before consumption. I hope it’s applied after so the next one comes sooner.

[sour elbow]

I mostly want our aoe cap raised back up

and to your point, execute to be a real button again

[young swan]

execute is a pretty real button on ptr

[charred estuary]

sudden death is

[sour elbow]

mmmmmmmmmmm say it again

[charred estuary]

raw execute is still not convincing me

but sudden death is a nuke

[young swan]

i mean im prob the biggest proponent of big execute

[sour elbow]

It's highly annoying that other spells in the game are better executes than the one ACTUALLY called Execute

[young swan]

agreed

[charred estuary]

my proponent is the biggest

[storm birch]

I gotta try the new slayer tier set

Seems pretty cool

[charred estuary]

I like it for single target

and like sporadic add fights it'll be good too

[sour elbow]

and that's fine. Idc if we swap around hero specs for situational dps. I prefer that actually so you don't get bored playing the same shit every fight/dungeon

[coarse nest]

Execute niche owns!!

[charred estuary]

If the thunderclap tier set was a little more enticing i'd be pretty happy overall with these tier sets

[sour elbow]

I like it tho, as long as it procs well. Could be crazy to just go on a thunderblast spam fest lol

[charred estuary]

It's really inconsistent from what i've seen

feels like 1 in 5 thunderblasts gets you another

but alot of times your ravager is going and you super overcap

Would rather see it do something else other than give you a charge on RNG

[sour elbow]

yea that's fair

or if you already have it proc'd and it procs again it consumes them and does a bigger blast automatically

that'd be a fun visual and feel impactful

[olive wraith]

Maybe if the ionized strikes increased the damage of the next tb

For like a giga tb

Increases the damage, sound, and size of your next tb

[dense elbow]

I live in the dreamworld of the Thane tierset:
Causes a thunder rumble when it procs, then 1 sec after, 5 lightning strikes hit in short order. Crackling and booming. Giving us visual and audial ques and payoff

making it feel awesome

[coarse nest]

Proc thunder blast
ears explode

[olive wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-thor-infinity-war-gif-25139201

[young swan]

permanent burns too

[olive wraith]

I want this

[dense elbow]

I think having it feel awesome is more important than having the right perfect 0.01% balance tuning. For being something ppl will remember and keep in their heart

[olive wraith]

Yes big visuals and sound

[coarse nest]

Lightning McQueen in your ears
“Kachow!”

[olive wraith]

Make me feel like a lightning boi

[dense elbow]

why are we here, just to suffer?

[hushed gust]

I, as a pyromaniacal piece of shit, want more flavor wins for fire. It looks really weird using a fire-based mog, the burning enrage glyph, and use mountain thane. OF being a bleed was already a -1 since it used to be fire damage too.

[young swan]

REAK

REAL

REAL

REAL

REAL

GOOD SHIT

[dense elbow]

Hell yeah, another make OF fire dam enjoyer! :D

[lean heart]

anyone know how to get details to work on ptr

[hushed gust]

It’ll probably make bloodborn just that much worse, but fire gud.

[olive wraith]

Slayer=fire
Thane =lightning

[hushed gust]

Yes

[young swan]

I dont really care about the elemental type of the spells so much cause it'll just get tuned around anyways but thematically its a no brainer that fury should have fire theme stuff

[dense elbow]

Herospec3=earth

[olive wraith]

Hero spec 4(the support spec) wind

I could see col being earth actually

Like demolish feels like a ground splitting attack

[quiet breach]

fury has no changes for 11.2?

[queen panther]

Give warriors berserk spec, lets us throw axes at ppl

[hushed gust]

Not yet.

[quiet breach]

have only some of the changes leaked then?

[hushed gust]

We still have like a month prior to actual release. There’s a chance more stuff shows up later.

[dense elbow]

No need to doom, once RB (4) has been fixed, our uncap AoE will be about 60% stronger

pretty solid

It might be shit to play RB spam, ontop of RB spam, but - it will do dam

[queen panther]

As long as pump happens

I’m happy

[wanton mirage]

if you do both normal and heroic raid at the same week, does same boss kill from different difficulites both give raid renown rep?

[hushed gust]

You get 1 rank per week flat, unless you’re behind. Then it’s 2 ranks.

[wanton mirage]

am behind like 4 levels

[hushed gust]

Then that’s kinda just unfortunate. Blizz didn’t give an uncapped catch-up if I’m remembering correctly.

[dense fulcrum]

u guys use multi target in myth mugzee or full st talents?

[quiet breach]

I think 1.5 months, I don't think it will come until august

or did blizzard give a date?

[dense elbow]

date better be "in 2 weeks"

I am dying here

[winter shoal]

Full st

[quiet breach]

full ST

[dense fulcrum]

u only bladestorm the add if its avalaible or u hold it for the add?

[quiet breach]

bladestorm on cd

[dense fulcrum]

because sometime when i open i go like 3.8 - 4m opener without bl ofc and instead on other pulls i open at 3m...i dunno why really

maybe because unhinged doesnt extend my rage with bladestorm

and it fucks up all

[lean heart]

how do i fix this on ptr

[buoyant salmon]

did u try /details reinstall

and/or updating addons on the ptr

try using an alpha version if those dont work

[lean heart]

keep getting these

[remote bobcat]

todays reclear was great :> i got rank7 mugzee and rank9 sprocket

yippie

@dense elbow i did a full fury reclear (except rik reverb) again this week and i did pretty well. Am i still a spec traitor?

[dense elbow]

Do you still play arms?

spec traitor you

[remote bobcat]

yes im recrafting my gear as we speak

back to arms

KEKW

[dense elbow]

[sour frigate]

[coarse nest]

I got the capital punsher and had to put it to use but it’s time to craft back to arms instead of trying to play hybrid stats

[remote bobcat]

oh yea mcap still didnt drop for us a month into reclear or whatever

idk why

[keen dove]

if i craft two handed weapon can i upgrade my one hand and shield for free?

[remote bobcat]

its a bit finnicky but yes that does work

i think u have to spec into arms first

with crafted weap

then spec prot

maybe even relog in between

but it does work

[keen dove]

alright alright

thanks man

[slim coral]

1st SD above all unless I wasn’t enraged

[frank dawn]

now we just need marked for execution to stack on the player, stack above 3, but still only consume 3 max at a time

[remote bobcat]

Prayge

and change frenzy

why do i lose 8% haste for killing a prio target in raid

[frank dawn]

yeah frenzy is annoying, but it's not a huge deal really either imo. We restack it quite fast these days. Bigger fish to fry, etc

[mossy fox]

it was nice when frenzy was one of our biggest complaints

[frank dawn]

xd

[remote bobcat]

i dont like that ur effectively saying "lets not worry about this now because its not the biggest problem we have"

its a problem anyway

i want it fixed

ykwim?

[mossy fox]

we're warriors

we can't ask for much

[remote bobcat]

hm.

The feedback should persist regardless imo

as long as we dont cry

like mages and priests

and boomkins

[mossy fox]

i complain plenty

i just dont expect anything to come out of it

[remote bobcat]

nah ur one of the good souls of the warrior community

you say u complain but u dont rly complain

its not even remotely comparable to those crybabies

[sullen dove]

2 buffs a week after the video

[fast mural]

but all the specs that cry get changes

[remote bobcat]

i dont care

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/puppet-hand-controlling-gif-17554100

[mossy fox]

the DF S2 video actually maybe did something

[remote bobcat]

Which adds actually got removed from wcl btw?

small adds from OAB and all adds except goons from mug?

[slim coral]

“Maybe” remember the 11.1.5 god comp complain video?! Warrior got help right after

[echo rapids]

I thought they just got a value reduction on the damage done to them

[remote bobcat]

im not sure

[undone flower]

thumbnail dark room hands on sad face with title "I'M DONE - they don't give a fuck" 1 hour video = buff the next friday

podcast is an alternative for this secret cheat

[ornate gust]

To be honest, we’re one of those specs that suck big time… Others cry like crazy and Blizzard responds to make them happy. When will it be our turn?

[orchid dagger]

Never

[ornate gust]

https://tenor.com/view/king-of-the-hill-bobby-smh-shaking-my-head-gif-18269382051844334745

[dapper goblet]

You guys used your rework token on getting shockwave not in a fully aids place 8 months ago

[orchid dagger]

You mean bitching and moaning about Anni

[coral dock]

So boys are we dooming for season 3 or are we happy? I haven’t played wow in a couple months

[vernal laurel]

We currently have no clue, as we have recieved no changes thus far. We are however in a perpetual state of doom as a baseline

[sullen dove]

then blizzard gave us a surprise rework token to ruin 3 capstone talents end of last season

👍

good bye RA TT and OF

[dapper goblet]

get a dev challenge

[hushed gust]

PTR changes just dropped last night. We still got about a month and a half before we can have any consensus.

[sullen dove]

why is xan listening to bj lips

[young swan]

idk what that is

[smoky vale]

someone gonna lick xan lips

[remote bobcat]

hi @smoky vale five seven

[atomic rivet]

UwU....?

[smoky vale]

hi

@modest condor do you think something like this lol

[dense elbow]

[humble plover]

Wth no smf?

[remote bobcat]

?

[remote bobcat]

im genuinely curious if we can afford no bloodcraze

[humble plover]

Our best talent single minded fury

[smoky vale]

probably not bc it paths to mastery

[remote bobcat]

can u stop

[smoky vale]

but

[remote bobcat]

yo gio

do u play more fury or arms rn

arms right?

[smoky vale]

arms

its not even close lol

[remote bobcat]

hows ur trial going

[smoky vale]

good

[remote bobcat]

[modest condor]

what's the point of vc if you dont play bloodcraze tho

[smoky vale]

it feels hard to get a feel for gallywix still because boss dies so fast every week

[smoky vale]

dunno honestly

maybe this instead

but then at that point

you play 1 de and 1 cbhs

or drop massacre for de

nah but you need the rb talent right

zzzzzzzz

[humble plover]

Just redo the whole thing

[smoky vale]

i think what xan has is just the way

[humble plover]

No, I mean the whole tree, just remake the whole thing

[remote bobcat]

did xan post tree somewhere?

[smoky vale]

im just watching hit the dummy atm

[remote bobcat]

ah his stream

i see

[quiet geyser]

Looks like we don't get a special 2her next tier

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/item=243365/maw-of-the-void

Unless we count this

[junior gale]

Jaiyths moment

so yes that counts as a special 2h

[vagrant imp]

how is that not a special 2h

[quiet geyser]

I mean it is, but it's trash? Lol

Missing a secondary, and the use doesnt do anything?

[chilly fractal]

Not unique equipped either

Somehow the only very rare in the raid

[quiet geyser]

Looks like only casters get special items next tier

[winter shoal]

massacre is turbo trolling

[sullen dove]

I mean it’s definitely gonna do something

[winter shoal]

I think you drop massacre for UF

[sullen dove]

It’s like day 1 of data mining/ptr

[modest condor]

we were feelycrafting a dont-press-bt build

but it doesnt work because you need bloodcraze to hit deft

[sullen dove]

Jaithys didn’t look like it did anything until you fed it then the proc showed up i believe

[vagrant imp]

no no no its trash, cause we he already knows what the use does

[torn silo]

okay, so it seems like most of the rankings on oab now are slayer, is this the way ot go over thane? we're still progging on it but have some 2-5% wipes. i assume it's just because the logs don't include add damage anymore?

[sullen dove]

[sullen dove]

The adds they don’t include usually didn’t matter most people skip the big coin bomb set that’s 8 adds to pad on now

And also fast reel assistants was more important then and think thane could do a bit more there with tblast hitting 2 adds

So yea typically slayer for boss dam usually the go to now unless you’re like really struggling on adds

[torn silo]

yeah we're not really struggling on the adds. RL's have asked melee to just piss off during spawns cause we kept having people die to walking into them

[sullen dove]

xd

[torn silo]

slayer makes sense, i'll try and give that a shot today

[slim coral]

Maybe you need to feed the mace so many corpses and then it upgraded

[torn silo]

literally had no idea. just heard that thane was the way to go, but we're pretty much hitting enrage, most of our sub 10% attempts we're hitting enrage at 7 min

[slim coral]

Cause the on use turns the dead bodies into void circles

So def something there

[sullen dove]

Yea I mean I would have to imagine just have people dying in which case just gotta keep trying until more ppl play a bit safer or if you are ok with stepping outta the comfort zone a bit could maybe try arms for more priority on actual execute phase dmg

But it’s not like it’s gonna be like 2x the dupus of fury or anything probably

[torn silo]

we're like 90 pulls in or so, and i'm pretty confident it will die tonight. just need to squeak out a little extra dps and we've got it.

[sullen dove]

wouldn’t say it’s required if there’s a lot more that can be dealt with mechanically by others first

I believe

[torn silo]

arms would be a huge loss for me. i'm doing all of the coins and having to focus on that plus figuring out how to play arms would just tank my pds

[slim coral]

@sullen dove don’t donowall me lil bro

[sullen dove]

dam bros doing coins

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/rrane-battal-rrane-battal-kızgın-battal-kızgın-gif-25355985

[sullen dove]

What donowall u just said “it might be like jaithys” that we said a bit ago too

can u get that weapon on ptr

[torn silo]

100% people can just stop dying to walking into rolling coins in p1 and we'll kill it. but for now, just trying to figure out what i can do to get a little more

[slim coral]

Ye

[sullen dove]

Like xan has the tier idk if raid weaps out too

What u get for doin the thing

[slim coral]

I used it on the corpses

[sullen dove]

Ok u get a buff or something change

[modest condor]

ok time to massacre the open world on ptr i guess

[slim coral]

Idk I’ll have to pay attention

I just know it eats the corpses