fury

[dense elbow]

I like dragons

They roar

[undone flower]

Add a bump on roar.

And no damage

[dense elbow]

you want roar to become CC?

[undone flower]

Same with spear

[pale lava]

this is the most insulting capstone we have honestly

[undone flower]

No damage on spear, put damage on the spec tree

[dense elbow]

It is a great capstone, honestly. That is a lot of value. It is 60% of a rampage. Pretty good. Sadly RB is already so much more powerful dam wise than OS

[undone flower]

Nah bc ravager/bs 2 charge is more insulting

[pale lava]

that one you can meme around with though

[undone flower]

Gives you 2 charge (no gain) but do 30% less

[pale lava]

fidget spinner cosplay and stuff

[dense elbow]

30% less dam part is always funny

[pale lava]

but Tenderize really does nothing special

[undone flower]

Yes there is 10 rage but it is on fury tree who cares about more rage

When you can RB

[dense elbow]

Did I mention that RB can reset the CD of RB, allowing you to RB after you RB?

RB!

[sour frigate]

i just got a death threat after key

[undone flower]

You gain dps from taking it vs not spending the point

[sour frigate]

wow community is awesome

[remote bobcat]

bladestorm > onslaught > rampage

Nod

[dense elbow]

Deserved! You prob left that key

(remember to report em)

[undone flower]

You can onslaught before bladestorm

[remote bobcat]

use onslaught to refresh enrage

so u can get 2x rb in

clueless~1

[undone flower]

It becomes your enrage, you have mastery talents

[pale lava]

rage capped for days

[sour frigate]

idc tbh just want someone actualy came once

[undone flower]

So you will be enraged bc unhinged

To do 2 RB

[dense elbow]

you even got time to do 3

[remote bobcat]

ah deft, fair

[undone flower]

Yes you have deft if onslaught

I tried it dw

[remote bobcat]

yea

fury talents are so ass

lol

[undone flower]

You have very often 5 stacks SS

[pale lava]

thing is, even with our capstones being shit, the gameplay loop is still the most satisfying out there

at least for me, that is

[sour frigate]

true

[dense elbow]

Well, with the coming (4) for slayer, the gameplay loop is being bent over

RB RB RB RB RB RB RB RB

[sour frigate]

if only meat cleaver wasnt hard capped

[sour frigate]

gamepad?

[pale lava]

surely we still press BT no?

[fiery tide]

In single target with slayer are you supposed to execute with 3x mark even if youre full on rage?

[dense elbow]

Why would you ever press BT, when you can press RB

no sir

you wait for BT to get 100% crit

[remote bobcat]

its possible that we genuinely wont despite running bloodcraze

[pale lava]

I like to spend first then exec

don't know if it's mathematically correct though

[pale lava]

interesting

[remote bobcat]

cuz RB is just that strong

yea

[pale lava]

yeah my reasoning was we BT when we have enough BC stacks

[red berry]

this really isn't a tierset for thane holy shit

[remote bobcat]

i think BT will be more filler than exe

[dense elbow]

RB also got a 20% bump of dam

remember that

[remote bobcat]

maybe

[dense elbow]

RB is stronger than ever before

and it was already fighting with BT as value on MT

[pale lava]

s3 shadowlands anyone?

[dense elbow]

now it isnt even close

[sour frigate]

Yes?

[remote bobcat]

rb is soooo strong with the upcoming tier set

[pale lava]

3 charges of RB

[sour frigate]

s3 prot

[remote bobcat]

its crazy

[sour frigate]

Chadding

[red berry]

raging blow wasn't proccing reap as much as id like

[dense elbow]

It procs it just as much as BT tho

so shrugh

[red berry]

i could've just had poor proc rate there but

[dense elbow]

Reap is RNG

[red berry]

yes

hence, poor proc rate

[dense elbow]

noone listens to me when I say so

but it got bad and good rng

IT SUCKS

but ppl go

But fuuunnky

over 1000000 runs

you even out

reeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[pale lava]

genuinely asking, isn't the balance between RB and BT rather good currently for thane?

[undone flower]

Execute should proc reap 100% chance

[dense elbow]

For thane? probably?

[pale lava]

where we have clear uses of BT in terms of enough crit chance and 3 or more targets in AoE

[dense elbow]

dont play Thane

[red berry]

well regardless i ran it back on the dummies and i did more by prioritizing bloodthirst with reap - now, i lost more in other damage. i did do the most by just flatout prioritizing execute

[dense elbow]

On 5t dummies, for sure

[red berry]

it'll be annoying in larger packs

[dense elbow]

BT is lower than RB on 5t

on live

[undone flower]

On the apl it’s 3 target I think

[dense elbow]

you need what 6+, at the good RNG mark, or 8+

[pale lava]

I remember @modest condor showcasing that 3 or more targets it was more dps to prio BT

[undone flower]

Yes it was me who checked the other day bc brewj asked about BT> overcap rampage

[dense elbow]

I will take his word for it. But I just press RB and do stable dam. Cant highroll, but I cant lowroll. Stable dam is best dam.

[undone flower]

Flat dam is stable

[dense elbow]

Nah, not necessarly

You can have a billion elements of RNG

as long as they all are small, and consistent enough enmass

then it averages out to be flat

You can also argue OF is great for stable dam profile. As it is one of the few things with very little varriance beyond crit RNG

Reap tho, it can proc or not, it can crit or not

Kill me

[red berry]

odyns is still nearly just as much as a single raging blow, isnt it

[pale lava]

doubt we'll ever consider slayer in M+ unless they turbo tune the reap proc rate

[red berry]

people play slayer in keys right now

[dense elbow]

OF is a bit more than RB currently

[tepid cedar]

went hard opn sprocket

[dense elbow]

RB got more value if you include SS and craze. But, in a world where you look at the press in a vacum, OF aint half bad.

What OF lacks is value to cower the lost output from picking other talents

[red berry]

yes. odyns fury is not worth taking, really. not right now. but maybe soon.

i still play it because ive been using loboz's build

[dense elbow]

Will be worth less than ever, with the new(4)

[red berry]

(maybe soon) with the implicatio of tuning. we don't know what they'll do yet

[dense elbow]

OF is a 'for fun' talent, you pick cause you want to feel better about your burst DPS

it isnt even a big part of your burst

[quiet geyser]

That talent is great, also adds a small QoL, the issue is onslaught just sucks ass

[red berry]

tenderize is 20% rampage damage, right

no

i mean is that the

onslaught capstone

[dense elbow]

Tenderise is 3 stacks, so 60% of a rampage added

[dense elbow]

Feel free to add reap procs to this if you want - I didnt get any. Because I never seem to fucking do. They do 7m a pop. There were 6 potential ones. 42 million swing damage.

Fun fun fun

"reap is consistent" my ass

[pale lava]

so OF is realistically less than 1% increase in AoE, if even that?

[red berry]

ive never really done a key as slayer and have reap perform poorly

[dense elbow]

Overall? It sits around 5-6% in a key

[red berry]

at all whatsoever

[dense elbow]

Pure AoE about 8%

[pale lava]

inb4 slayer meta for keys in s3

[dense elbow]

I care more about the moment to moment feel, than over 1000 uses.

If my opener wiffs, as baove

because of RNG

[red berry]

a key is one thousand uses

[dense elbow]

I am just annoyed

[red berry]

i just don't know what else to say

[haughty glacier]

Would crafting a set of boots / legs be betterthan hero track bis item? wanna bump my ilvl so close to 680 lol

[pale lava]

make rampage proc a guaranteed reap

[haughty glacier]

I have my bis boots / legs but 671, a crafted item would surely be better right

[dense elbow]

If you wiff on the big pulls, your lack of output might cost you the key.

It sucks.

[pale lava]

yes because u can pick the stats as well + higher ilvl

[dense elbow]

ass.

[haughty glacier]

yeah

[pale lava]

unless u have a tier piece on legs

[dense elbow]

People say RNG doesnt matter, but when 42% of your performance can go up into smoke

it is so bad

Especially so, as we are not win more

we are win to try to catch up

[red berry]

i think ive said more then once in this discord that RNG being baked into class design is antithetical to class design itself imo

so im not

disagreeing

[dense elbow]

I am just tilted, by seeing reap being forced down my throat by the tierset

I hate reap

[red berry]

i think it would be better if it were crit-based just like frost deathknights

akin

which them also getting a crit damage talent

[dense elbow]

Sure, reap on procs when you crit, I am all for that. 1 layer of RNG, and you can modify it directly as chance%.

20% that just doesnt want to proc for me, is the absolute worst.

[pale lava]

honestly we already have too many sources of rng

to the point where it does become rather obnoxious most of the time to deal with

[karmic fiber]

Does the belt not work on dummys?

[dense elbow]

it bugs out on dummies, yeah

[karmic fiber]

I see, wanted to see how much it would hit and got nothhing 😄

[dense elbow]

Just go hit some mobs in the world

it saps em

[thick fossil]

It would be nice if they actually listened to us sometime. Actually fix and course correct things we've been complaining about for expansions. Target caps, rng, talent trees, just overall place in the game.

[dense elbow]

The (4) set for slayer tells me they want this

[thick fossil]

Execute having yet another modifier to it is just salt in the wound. We already have too many things that buff attacks. Stop making us do this over and over build up for very little or possibly no big dopamine hit.

[modest condor]

im pretty sure raging blow reap is just a flat 20% chance regardless of targets

so yeah it does proc like shit on aoe compared to bt

[thick fossil]

Right now the only big blast to look forward to is collateral cleave, and even that can be very underwhelming.

[modest condor]

havent tested it enough to make sure tho

[red berry]

yeah no that would track

[loud field]

Hello fury woyers

How yall doin

[thick fossil]

Let me find a zoomer translation for that.

[dense elbow]

Fuck me, if this is true. RNG hell fiesta is even worse :Deadge:

[dense elbow]

Doin' overall alright, fellow Warrior. Looking good for next tier, if you aint a RNG hater. We just patiently waiting for tuning to fix the worst of it

[loud field]

I have arrived here to ask if it's an okay idea or a bad idea to upkeep a warrior alt for next tier for mythic raid, I main DK usually and I'm a garbo ranged player so I was thinking warrior might not be too bad but I'm just wondering what the state of it is on live/PTR

[modest condor]

nah unless they fix it you will just keep using the same prio as on live

[loud field]

Gotcha

[dense elbow]

The swing of god rng and bad rng will be larger than ever

that is my only issue

[undone flower]

On live fury is good in raid (my opinion)

[loud field]

And also CE raid, not just like first few each tier

[modest condor]

you barely press rb on aoe especially with how often the tierset procs more SDs

4set will just be 0 dps on aoe

[dense elbow]

So we go 2+2set

got ya

Loboz build will be da way

[loud field]

📓

[modest condor]

as if our current 2set is so strong

[dense elbow]

better than 0% dmg

[modest condor]

i think the ilvl increase would be better

[dense elbow]

hm, true, might be just about

[modest condor]

but also it's the first iteration and it might just be a bug

[dense elbow]

I bet they want to to work as BT

[loud field]

I'm enjoying fury on live quite a bit, but I'm no expert on warrior so I was just wondering what the state of things were

[undone flower]

Loboz, what will our Lord cook next tier

[dense elbow]

or it doesnt make sense

[modest condor]

yeah

[dense elbow]

(i still hate it tho, I hope (4) crashes and burns)

[modest condor]

this is where we find out they didnt even know that's how it works for BT and they're changing it to also just be 20% chance

[undone flower]

But it is garbo in push m+

I have to admit the obvious about fury

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/you-shouldnt-joke-about-that-stan-marsh-south-park-casa-bonita-s7e11-gif-22110685

[modest condor]

im pretty sure they still havent found out that every time they reduced the target cap for roar it was only the initial hit

[remote bobcat]

sil

[quiet geyser]

😅

[dense elbow]

Initial dam was the problem, snap threat and all that

[remote bobcat]

are there any bugs u found yet?

[dense elbow]

Ooo, bugs might brighten my day

[modest condor]

#fury message

[dense elbow]

Any fun bugs?

[remote bobcat]

i saw that but i wouldnt call that ab ug

[dense elbow]

Something to make me 'haha' or 'smile'

[red berry]

if raging blow does share proc rate akin to bloodthirst, it'll actually be pretty strong

[remote bobcat]

it's gonna be disgusting lol

[dense elbow]

it will, it is clearly the intent

Why does it make me so angry. I dont know.

Stupid (4) set.

[red berry]

you are able to get

far more raging blows out then bloodthirst \

lmao

[undone flower]

Will you be gladly surprised if seismic bug is still here

[dense elbow]

Yep, we talking a 2-3x Reap procs per key

[dense elbow]

too old news sadly

[red berry]

existential dread

[undone flower]

It is an old buddy you discover he didn’t die

[dense elbow]

I am just waiting for it to happen, so I get my insurance cashed in. So I can buy some OF buffs.

[undone flower]

I wait the seismic bug to infect other warrior specs

I will not name which one

[modest condor]

oh yeah seismic bug is fixed on ptr

[red berry]

lmao

[remote bobcat]

big

[modest condor]

so enjoy doing even shitter dps again

[undone flower]

Oh… I put my bet on it stayed

[dense elbow]

Oh well, that is fine. I am sure that means we get another +5% on the +50% RB/ramp/BT buff

[remote bobcat]

so they can actually buff our tblast

now

[modest condor]

surely

[red berry]

if raging blow procs reap it will be better then thane for keys. as it stands right now. they'll touch up the tierset and do tuning, so

well,

if its frequency matches bloodthirst

[dense elbow]

Depends, on how the fixed Thane tierset will work

[red berry]

yes, they'll touch up the tierset and do tuning

[dense elbow]

Still, even if Slayer got the 3x Reap value in keys - we still bellow everyone else

[undone flower]

Now the big question I need an answer when I go home : does seismic work with ww now ?

[dense elbow]

so meh?

[red berry]

it always worked with whirlwind

or

do you mean it only hitting once

[undone flower]

It only buff the first ww hit

[red berry]

yeah no okay fair enough that i dont know but i always assumed that was intentional for some reason

[dense elbow]

btw, I totally forgot, didnt they change sidearm - to actually do some dam?

So some good news

[red berry]

did sidearm get changed on the PTS?

PTR

[dull harbor]

What does everyone think of the ptr changes

[dense elbow]

Overall? For prot it looks like it got more good than bad. For Fury it is all in the air, but I am negatively inclined. For Arms, it looks like they (as always) will be eating good

tldr: Fury is an afterthought

[red berry]

existential dread

its literally the first day dude

[dense elbow]

Am I wrong tho

[red berry]

idk ask me in two months

[dense elbow]

I wont disagree they will panic buff us, and fix the tierset to not be a DPS loss

[tepid cedar]

boom another oneee

[limber oar]

Heroic parse chasing endgame

What a concept

[dense elbow]

True endgame is LFR

and this is known

[tepid cedar]

lol

to long to queue in

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/pathetic-pathetique-pathetox-cat-gif-17249104

[limber oar]

No flame btw lol spend time in the game however you want

Also gz

[sinful spoke]

remins me of @covert blaze and me takign over the heroic rankings during df s4

[tepid cedar]

nothign erlse to do

nothing else to do

im having fun pugging and trtying to get parses

[dense elbow]

I only respect the logs

[tepid cedar]

haha i did that on normal got all spec r1 lol

now doing that on h lol

rik is my fkn nemesis, cause pugging it its about impossible to kill him before phase

[remote bobcat]

this still normal or heroic?

[tepid cedar]

heroic

[remote bobcat]

not too shabby

collecting yellows like pokemon

reminds me of myself in season 1

[dense elbow]

wdum, a roof with holes, even if only a few - is still a shabby roof

[tepid cedar]

its been fun man

playing with a lot of diff pugs and ppl

see some wild shit though

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cam-cat-camera-cat-wide-cat-wide-gif-16729570673879006163

[remote bobcat]

but its clear that ur just re-joining groups with ID to try and get kills

some people would call that stinky poopoo

[sinful spoke]

where u been my boy

[remote bobcat]

i call that well rewarded effort

[tepid cedar]

cant wait to see execute on top next season lol

[dense elbow]

[covert blaze]

I rerolled ret

[tepid cedar]

fkn 80 mil is jsut pathetic

[sinful spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/regretting-thinking-nervous-macaco-monkey-gif-13105982953111325972

NOOOO

PORQUE

[covert blaze]

I was told to

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/nacho-why-confused-jack-black-gif-8714598

[fading sky]

Better dev?

[remote bobcat]

do you cry yourself to sleep cuz of it?

cause I sure would

[covert blaze]

I like ret

it's cool to play a useful class

[sour elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/getout-gif-16327023334064302194

[remote bobcat]

i just lost a lot of respect for you

idk man

ur breaking our hearts

[dense elbow]

I am just glad he is out of the abusive relationship, that is Fury Warrior. Be happy and free, Zhai. We will welcome you back in a month.

[marble pilot]

So how much cope am I on if I think fury changes could still be coming before 11.2 and just were not ready yet on current ptr

[haughty glacier]

does anyone know why i cant sim crafted items before i actually craft them?

[red berry]

we'll see.

[dense elbow]

It is 99% likely we will see some tuning

[haughty glacier]

I have all the mats

[marble pilot]

I dont really think we need much. Yeah the tiersets need numbers tuning but thats whatever.
I wanna see something to help in m+ though. Plenty of ways to do it though and im generally fine with any of em. Good cds, funnel if we have to stay 5 target, target cap changes.

It would be a little annoying to run exactly the same builds again but I enjoy the gameplay right now so it isnt that bad.

[remote bobcat]

you dont have all the mats

[dense elbow]

Well, if you want uncapped AoE, Slayer (4) will deliver.

(once they fixed it)

[haughty glacier]

Yeah I realized iforgot the actual mats like alloys and stuff, its so stupid tho

let me sim the damn dcrafted items before i buy the matsn oi?

[remote bobcat]

no

not that

[marble pilot]

I kinda hope the thane tier set just lets you go rampage tblast bloodthirst over and over. Would solve aoe pretty well.

[remote bobcat]

you dont have the crests n shit

[sullen dove]

U mean slayers strike

[remote bobcat]

or valorstones

or sparks

[undone flower]

Why tf 4 don’t just increase BT proc chance

[sullen dove]

Execute only doing like 20% more and we hit it a bit more but gettin at least double the SS maybe even more

[dense elbow]

cause they want you to press RB

get with the program

[undone flower]

RB is holding Blizzard servers from blowing up it seems

[marble pilot]

They still feel like the same button to me. Only difference is I click one whenever I can and the other when my game makes a sound.
They could combine them and Id never notice

[dense elbow]

There are two devs in there. One who loves Execute, want jugg and OF. The other hates that. And only want RB spam and Rampage.

[haughty glacier]

Quick update, i have all the mats now and it still doesnt let me sim it. lol

And yeah i do

@remote bobcat

[undone flower]

Every day we RB sacrifice 1000 furry souls to keep this game alive.

[dense elbow]

Every RB we send, is 1dollar in blizzards pockets. Every OF is a 1 dollar cost.

Make RB great again.

[undone flower]

Put tariffs on BT !

[dense elbow]

I cant wait for ppl come in here asking "when I press BT?" and ppl just go "If you cant press RB".

Gonna be great

[remote bobcat]

the only other thing i can think of is that u didnt select pants enchants so it refuses to sim

[marble pilot]

I mean its already pretty close to that

[dense elbow]

Already basically is, yep.

Sadly RB cant reap

but NO LONGER

RB is now free to be the one button to rule the rotation

[haughty glacier]

Got that checked aswell, idk

[remote bobcat]

can u send a screenshot of a resources part of the sim

pls

[summer quail]

"When weakaura tells you to"

[dense elbow]

shiwers

[marble pilot]

Yeah ignore when it the button lights up thats a lie. Only do it when WA makes noise

[undone flower]

We have execute WA 👀

[dense elbow]

And BT Crit% WA

[marble pilot]

Honestly I think BT and Execute are the same button now. More so than BT and RB.

[dense elbow]

I wonder why they didnt make execute reap, as ya know, that is the whole idea of the tierset

execute

[marble pilot]

Both are ignore they exist unless the WA makes a noise or you have nothing else to press

[undone flower]

Even if execute is must have to press, before execute phase it will be WA handled

[echo rapids]

For now

[undone flower]

Bc you still are slayer

Still juggernaut

[dense elbow]

Wont need a WA if you send it on CD, as you get it that frequent

[marble pilot]

Not if it was just use it every time you get sudden death. But it isnt that so itll be WA handled

[dense elbow]

The 100% slayerstrike return, basically makes it a must send on CD, on ST

[undone flower]

Yes if you send on cd / no jug or stacks to juggle around

[haughty glacier]

Wdym resources, like what enchants and stuff i got selected?

[fading sky]

Which is nice

[marble pilot]

It kinda seems odd to me since the cloak thing we get this season has execute damage built in. But execute itself is whatever

[echo rapids]

Make execute great again

[dense elbow]

Cloak thing gives ppl execute damage?

[marble pilot]

I kinda get why they dont want execute classes. Makes raid progression weird.

[dense elbow]

RIP our execute phase I guess

[marble pilot]

Yeah the proc on the cloak has bonus damage on below 35% health targets or something

[remote bobcat]

the very top part of the sim as resources mate

[marble pilot]

Granted thats just the cloak proc not all damage

[fading sky]

Just flavor

[undone flower]

If new standard slayer SD proc is less than 15 sec, then it will be on cd press

[remote bobcat]

this part @haughty glacier

[dense elbow]

Probably will be, if ppl are to be believed. Talking about sending execute every other GCD

[echo rapids]

IMO that’s bullshit, they very clearly had spread cleave fights this tier. They can have execute fights as well

[remote bobcat]

hmm

[marble pilot]

I agree with you. Execute phase was a lot of fun when it existed. But there was some interview where they said they dont like when fights become just survive till execute and let the execute classes solve it.
But they can balance that by making the fights different instead.

[dense elbow]

just making sure, the belt got no embelishment, and if it does - you freed one of the other embelishment spots?

[remote bobcat]

I mean it should look like this when ur trying to compare crafted items in top gear

[haughty glacier]

And how do i max out all mats like that

[undone flower]

2 execute boss in undermine, just our execute is not the best

[remote bobcat]

u click on show all while crafted items are selected

[undone flower]

And if you see them 4 months after, yes the execute phase will be gone

[marble pilot]

No ones execute is great anymore. That was the design change. They didnt like that some classes went from middle of the pack to top dps depending on length of execute phase. I dont remember where the interview was though. Something about world first races.

[undone flower]

So it is hard to design execute fight unless it starts at execute range

[haughty glacier]

Ohhh while crafted items are selected, alright tyvm man! ❤️

yeah now it works, thanks man

[echo rapids]

Yeah I agree, I like the idea that classe shine in certain fights as long as it’s not crazy

[dense elbow]

If it aint crazy, is there even a point tho?

[undone flower]

But imo execute is not a certain fight, not so much specific than different target counts

[dense elbow]

5% lead isnt exactly, "wow, shining bright like a diamond!"
Then where is the lead supposed to be?
Humans usually tend to have to see at least 30% increases to notice and feel it.

[echo rapids]

Depends on crazy I guess, warlocks were pretty mid this tier but they got a few fights to shine so ours are happy

[undone flower]

And they will had to make it bad outside, bc every boss has an execute phase

[dense elbow]

Or your dam will be low before that phase

And ppl dislike that as well

[echo rapids]

That’s true, but not every boss has an execute phase that really matters

There is no perfect solution it’s true

[dense elbow]

Lets be real, ppl only care about raw dam on logs

then they scream and howl

[undone flower]

That really matters, but exist yes, every boss goes to 35% hp

[dense elbow]

till it gets removed or 'fixed'

[echo rapids]

I just miss what feels like one of the defining parts of warrior

[coarse nest]

Sylvannas joins the chat

[dense elbow]

Fury Warrior is now defined by Raging Blow

[remote bobcat]

@tepid cedar I yoinked ur normal mode vexie and rik out of boredom

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/powerpuff-girls-evil-imagine-evilest-mostevil-gif-4188902

[remote bobcat]

u need to hop back on

unfortunately i didnt manage to beat 3.7mil on coc

[undone flower]

That is evil indeed

[echo rapids]

Do you just pug normal? How do you convince people to do it

[undone flower]

Time to see who are the real warriors

[remote bobcat]

Yea i just joined some random 650+ pug group created by some 590 player

[dense elbow]

My money is on Apo, Kronzo is a spec traitor

[remote bobcat]

[remote bobcat]

apo is washed tho

[dense elbow]

Better washed, than a traitor

[undone flower]

I wash myself everyday

[echo rapids]

Ahhh I would think their kill time would be too slow to let you parse number 1 but I guess not

[remote bobcat]

just be better ?

[echo rapids]

It’s a solid plan

[remote bobcat]

Like i didnt even play particularly well btw

i fucked up my opener on vexie

and rik was cringe too

but i mean hey if it works it works

amirite?

[echo rapids]

Apparently you are!

[undone flower]

Kill timing matter but it’s not always the shortest who is the best

If there is adds it is right after the adds

[coarse nest]

I don’t understand how people log well on CoC I follow the cd timings to a T even the pre pull Ava for better clash alignment

I always get like an 80

On mythic*

[remote bobcat]

dont pre ava

[fading sky]

Boss must die in an intermission at the same time

[remote bobcat]

Ok

[coarse nest]

Oh wait fury chat

Der

I play arms mostly

My fury has like a 98 I think?

[remote bobcat]

if u want we can look over ur arms in #1347646810457636974

on CoC

[undone flower]

Idk I did coc only once as fury and did 93 (it was the first time I dps the boss too)

I screamed OOOH when I got the beam

[remote bobcat]

me when beam

Nod

[undone flower]

You know I was lil bit asleep bc first bosses but seeing beam targeting me instantly woke me up

Like not doing always balls on stix

And suddenly I’m chosen

[remote bobcat]

btw do yall fw this new mount?

[undone flower]

I throw my ravager with despite before going

[coarse nest]

What’s the Warcraft recorder!? First time seeing this

You like the software?

[undone flower]

Goated thing

[remote bobcat]

hop on general voice i can show u

[loud locust]

wowhead saids electric current or critical chain, idk which one to use any ideas?

for my belt

[coarse nest]

At work right now only on mobile

Later though for sure!

[remote bobcat]

ah ait

but yea its just this https://warcraftrecorder.com/ @coarse nest

[coarse nest]

Does the recorder have a cost, I would assume

[remote bobcat]

not for personal use no

free

but u can upload to a guild shared cloud for money

[coarse nest]

Hell yeah I might have e to start utilizing this

[remote bobcat]

and then u can see ur guild mates pov

after every pull n such

to analyze

[coarse nest]

If the subscription is paid by a single person can all 20 use it?

Or is it like a per person thing

[undone flower]

It is free no ?

[coarse nest]

I’m asking about the guild upload part happy

[remote bobcat]

i think the guild cloud thing is paid for by one person but im not sure i just joined the setup of raidlead

[coarse nest]

I could just read into it later too lol

[remote bobcat]

i never bothered to ask if its paid for

id assume it is

its called "pro" after all

the only downside to this warcraft recorder is that it legit yoinks 50 fps from my game

I go from 240 to like 190

[undone flower]

I think I’m at 0 fps if I use it

[remote bobcat]

yea i just upgraded

i bought a 5090 xt

and a 7800x3d

its a great setup for wow

[undone flower]

Im like 60-70 fps

[remote bobcat]

I have 100120301 things open while standing in dornogal during prime time

and im recording

[coarse nest]

I’m on a 4090/9800x3d I should be good

[remote bobcat]

and in dornogal i have 120 fps

despite all this

[coarse nest]

Oh yeah wow doesn’t utilize hardware properly at all

Dorn is like 80fps on my setup

[remote bobcat]

i planned on getting a 9800x3d but that shit was sold out

[coarse nest]

With RT off

[remote bobcat]

in my area

RT?

[coarse nest]

Raytrace

[remote bobcat]

why tf would u ever use that

[coarse nest]

Some people do

I’m saying with it off I still have only 80-100

[remote bobcat]

btw do people still talk on the warbreaker server?

[coarse nest]

Yeah they chat and share information from time to time

[remote bobcat]

do u think its advisable to join the server again?

in terms of niché information

[coarse nest]

I mean yeah of course I’m in it haha

[remote bobcat]

Shrug

[coarse nest]

The more information you have access too the better

Is the way I see sit

[remote bobcat]

fair point

btw

guys

we will get even less 2handers

:)

more competition

[red berry]

what is this

[remote bobcat]

apparently theres a new DH spec

void themed

im not sure if this is a real picture what i showed u

but if it is, then we will have more 2hander competition

[lean bluff]

Is Odyn's fury back to being a "powerful, signature Fury ability" yet?

[remote bobcat]

lol no

[lean bluff]

how's fury looking for the new patch

[remote bobcat]

never will be

shit

you will be clicking raging blow

just like we did this season

and last season

[lapis slate]

like every season

[remote bobcat]

except last season we had bloodbath ig

[lean bluff]

tbh wish our class admins were bigger cry babies. if automaticjak played dps warrior we'd prob get a rework every patch like priest does

[remote bobcat]

it's called honor

[midnight kite]

generally its impossible to know how were looking next patch day 1 of PTR

[lean bluff]

it's gonna feel so shit playing the first area of tazavesh remembering how good old merciless bonegrinder was mmmmmmm'

[lapis slate]

i keep saying warriors need to hire boomies to cry for us on platforms

[remote bobcat]

go ahead

[marble pilot]

I still cant tell if that DH third spec is fake or not.
There is a void dh boss in the new raid. They class would benefit from a third spec.
2h Demon hunter just sounds weird though and the void dh boss is still using dual glaives.

[cosmic sundial]

I mean I can't think of any two handed axe that gives agi

[acoustic yoke]

this some mmochampions type leak

[midnight kite]

I think surv is the only spec that would use an agi axe currently

[acoustic yoke]

monk

i think

or feral

one of them can i think but i could be saying bullshit

[cosmic sundial]

No two handed axe

Same with monk and feral I'm sure

[midnight kite]

because they dont add any, but they can still use them

[cosmic sundial]

I don't think a two handed agi axe exists

[midnight kite]

I think theres like a BC pvp one but I honestly cant think of one besides that off hand

[acoustic yoke]

was kurog axe a polearm then?

must have been

[cosmic sundial]

I'll eat my words

[acoustic yoke]

i doubt they'd make a DH spec that doesn't use warglaives

[remote bobcat]

havoc and vengeance already dont need warglaives

they can use 1handed swords n axes

[midnight kite]

theres more agi 2h axes then I expected tbh

[dense elbow]

Hoy lads, ToP, necro boss - is it now a thing that you dont damage the adds?

[midnight kite]

but Vengeful Gladiator is the one I was thinking of, its also odd because theres no other pvp agi 2h axes

[dense elbow]

Cause I just got kicked for killing adds

._.

this a legit thing, or?

[remote bobcat]

yes

u have no reason to actively kill them

in higher keys

[dense elbow]

So you just perma root em or something?

[remote bobcat]

just pump boss

yes

and passive cleave

[dense elbow]

Aight, this makes me sad

[remote bobcat]

and u can always knock em back

or chains them back

or similar

[midnight kite]

What level was the key?

[dense elbow]

Fury Warrior is so pointless then

fbm

[cosmic sundial]

that just sounds like a way to get your group killed

[dense elbow]

Nah, key was lost on last boss, rogue dying for the umptheen time.

I am just shocked that spinning adds is wrong now

I just wanna do good dam

[cosmic sundial]

How dare you "pad"

[dense elbow]

Meh, now I know

dont hit adds with bladestorm

at least roar touching them gotta be fine tho

right?

[remote bobcat]

if ur bs isnt touching the boss

[cosmic sundial]

Honestly I'd still kill them

[remote bobcat]

then ur cooked

[dense elbow]

well, by that logic, you trolling by having unhinged not hitting boss

[cosmic sundial]

that group just dumb

[dense elbow]

so ya cant hit BS on adds

Logic is: adds dont matter, they CC'd, so focus all boss

so I should run to the other side of the boss and storm, if adds are close by

[cosmic sundial]

okay but you can't help if they're cc'd near boss

[dense elbow]

Wont be a problem tho, storm is always up a bit before adds spawn

My overall will just take a huge hit

[modest condor]

i wish i had photoshop skills

[dense elbow]

you do tho, I seen your arrows

[modest condor]

people really just take any random picture and share it everywhere

[remote bobcat]

yuh

[cosmic sundial]

Entropy dh amirite

[dense elbow]

you say that as if it is a bad thing

[tight roost]

so whats the quickest way to get the other DISC powers?

[modest condor]

ngl fake leak season is one of my favourite times of an expansion cycle

[tight roost]

lvl 1 overcharged?

[dense elbow]

Do the content that drops them

ye tier 1 delves

[tight roost]

rgr

[cosmic sundial]

bruh

[dense elbow]

Bring him

he needs the gear

[undone flower]

you prefer fake leak new dh spec

[marble pilot]

Watch it be a support spec. Focus on debuffing enemies instead of buffing allies

[dense elbow]

wonder what discord this isnt on atm

[undone flower]

but tbf of they go on spec releases route they can do fast and more

[red berry]

holy shit guys

[modest condor]

hey guys did you see this?

[undone flower]

agility two handers, weak.

[quiet breach]

when do we see the fury tier set for next season

[undone flower]

BiS losers

[remote bobcat]

its alrdy out

[dense elbow]

Already out, #updates-midnight

[summer quail]

demon hunter discord is funny af atm coz of this

[dense elbow]

Oh, I am so glad this didnt happen to us

the spam would be unreal

"omh, new spec info?!"

[quiet breach]

so, are we excited about the tier set

or are we pissed

[dense elbow]

If you are Arms or prot, you kinda happy

[undone flower]

it will go crazy when they will uncap fury next tuning cycle

[quiet breach]

didn't even read arms and prot

[dense elbow]

Why would you want uncap, when reap is uncapped?

You get your uncapped DPS this tier

be happy happy

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-toad-panic-toad-rage-panic-rage-gif-5308125717647168980

[undone flower]

LOWERS RES

[remote bobcat]

lol

[marble pilot]

Removing pixels every time

[quiet breach]

is ptr of the raid out yet?

[gusty sleet]

yes

everything is out

[quiet breach]

poggy woggy

[gusty sleet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1277672378171789334/1384929123255975956/IMG_4004.png?ex=6854e001&is=68538e81&hm=468c3aeda498d5207bc733d078480892adfb393299455c929ec55c772ad789ae&

[marble pilot]

Can we see all the raid trinkets and stuff then?

[young swan]

yeppers

[quiet breach]

what ilvl is champ track gear

next season

[quiet breach]

what's the meme surrounding this, is it a fake pic?

[dense elbow]

Nah man

it real

[marble pilot]

Some think its real some think its fake. I cant tell.

[modest condor]

it's definitely fake

[dense elbow]

Nah, it real

[marble pilot]

My ass is cooked when im older and get ai scams

[modest condor]

you're real

[dense elbow]

oh u

[quiet breach]

dude holy shit I didn't even think about that

ai scams are gonna become a thing

[marble pilot]

They kinda already are. But they will get better over time

Or worse? what word is best

[dense elbow]

Just wait till the point where you realise: You havent spoken to a real human being in here ever.

[red berry]

i did not mean to tag a real person

i fucked up

[dense elbow]

The ninja ping

shame on u

[marble pilot]

The bell has been wrung

[red berry]

i was just trying to get gork

[dense elbow]

Mods, ban Vyethol

Trolling is ToS

[red berry]

tedplea

[modest condor]

eyir socks

[lean geyser]

🧦

[dense elbow]

After I learned I am not supposed to hit adds in ToP, I honestly dont want to do that key anymore It just deflated all fun from the place

[undone flower]

where is the scam (yes i repost it AGAIN)

[red berry]

an ai couldn't do that. this was done by a real blizzard developer and worked on by real artists

[red berry]

i love how shitty you photoshopped on raging blow

[dense elbow]

Fuck

you

[red berry]

lmao

[undone flower]

RB is right behind you

[acoustic yoke]

wait isn't that the dh from heartstone?

just realised

they didn't even try hard enough

to make it look real

[marble pilot]

Man its getting good

[red berry]

is raging blow in the room with us right now. the answer is yes, and its never leaving. you wanted less interactions? fuck you. it outright applies slayer strike. oh? you want more? it casts whirlwind. and that whirlwind? execute. everybody clapped.

[marble pilot]

Not happy until warrior 1 button is just raging blow.

[modest condor]

idk i dont play hearthstone, but they had to take the picture from somewhere so possibly

[humble plover]

Dh new spec before warrior rework

https://tenor.com/view/wack-thatswack-hannibal-burress-ericandreshow-gif-20565184

[whole yacht]

What do you mean

[tepid cedar]

brooo lets gooooo!

ghood shit

[acoustic yoke]

ye they just copied someones homework

[dense elbow]

#fury message

[modest condor]

looks different to me

[undone flower]

yes it is different imo x)

[whole yacht]

Oh adds on lich boss

[undone flower]

i would have send the magehunter

but still

[humble plover]

D stance to to sandbag. Smart

[whole yacht]

Just hit them anyway. Kek

[dense elbow]

Do and ya get kicked

[acoustic yoke]

looks like they added void coloring to it and fit it into the frame but u could be right too

[remote bobcat]

why arent u upset

I did it out of spite

lol

[whole yacht]

No one's gonna brick a 20 by kicking you just cuz you thunderclapped the adds

Don't hard focus them. Just aoe whack

[modest condor]

nah the horns are different and the eyeglow is bigger in the "photo"

[undone flower]

and : it is not unheard that blizz put hearthstone / other game shit in the game

[acoustic yoke]

also true

but i think it doesn't fit the aesthetic of the talent tree artwork

[undone flower]

bc it is new i guess

[acoustic yoke]

but also this is all fake anyway so this is all mute

[dense elbow]

Nah it is confirmed, more pics out there

[tepid cedar]

bc im happy bro why would i be uptset

[dense elbow]

it is super real

[tepid cedar]

and i jsut took it backl

[remote bobcat]

:I

[acoustic yoke]

yeah but evoker one was unique art

i guess my real issue is i don't want another DH spec ngl

give me an actually new class again

[undone flower]

who cares

[acoustic yoke]

i'm dh racist

[modest condor]

Chatting dh isnt a race

[acoustic yoke]

trying to will this out of existence

[undone flower]

ye i would love my tinker gnome only class

[acoustic yoke]

specist?

[half glen]

sup

[undone flower]

that is a worst word

[acoustic yoke]

classist?

[undone flower]

nah stay on racism

[olive wraith]

Give warriors a heal spec you cowards

[acoustic yoke]

good call

[remote bobcat]

"i will shout at you so stand back up"

[dense elbow]

Why would you ask for a warrior healer spec

[undone flower]

don't change a working wheel

[olive wraith]

Cause it would be hilarious

[dense elbow]

that would just make it so we are brought in as a healer

[marble pilot]

Cant wait to hear the leak is real but the spec is a meme

[dense elbow]

as our dps is shit

[marble pilot]

All the dhs want to be edgy but its going to be a debuff based support spec.

[whole yacht]

just screams to heal "YOU ARE ALIVE" +2m hp

[dense elbow]

Just make warrior an aug spec. Banner warrior.

[olive wraith]

“YOU CALL THAT A WOUND? STOP BEING WEAK”

[dense elbow]

gg ez sleep

[modest condor]

havent you seen how much selfhealing fury can do?

[undone flower]

one day we will have dancer class with twerk spells

[modest condor]

i did 900k hps on candle king one time

[olive wraith]

We just run 5 fury then

[modest condor]

600k hps on the pull after 1st boss in priory

[olive wraith]

Gg ez title pls

I think support warrior would be fine too tbh

[undone flower]

no, i want new flavor classes

[olive wraith]

But you run into the Aug issue

[undone flower]

i prefer void dh over new warrior spec

[olive wraith]

What if agi warrior spec

[undone flower]

like a samurai ?

[marble pilot]

Add SMF to that spec image

[dense elbow]

Why would a samuraii be more agile than a knight?

[undone flower]

now we talkin if it's samurai we speak of

Agility is samurai

[dense elbow]

Nah

[olive wraith]

Ninja would be agi

[dense elbow]

^

[olive wraith]

Idk if samurai are much more agile

[undone flower]

ninja is not a warrior

[modest condor]

isnt ninja just sub rogue?

[olive wraith]

Ya

[undone flower]

samurai is agi warrior

[fiery edge]

berserker

[dense elbow]

Samuraii aint more agile than Knights tho

[olive wraith]

How is samurai agi

[dense elbow]

so agi Knight when?

[olive wraith]

Agi is like Pedro pascal in GoT

I forget the character name

[dense elbow]

Waterdancer dude?

That is just another rogue thing

[undone flower]

ye Pedro is rogue or monk

[dense elbow]

Samuraii is str tho

100%

[undone flower]

samurai is agility

[modest condor]

https://tenor.com/view/mapache-pedro-gif-7206648027763736533

pedro pedro pedro

[dense elbow]

I can hear the music btw

[dense elbow]

Rogue character, his whole character is being a rogue type

[undone flower]

combat rogue

[dense elbow]

Wonder if we will ever get a 'the mountain' type of warrior

[undone flower]

it's arms

[dense elbow]

Nah

Arms is about combos and shit

[modest condor]

colossus

[undone flower]

the mountain is an arms colossus EXACTLY

[dense elbow]

The mountain doesnt "build up" his strikes. He oneshots.

[undone flower]

not gameplay colossus

[dense elbow]

He doesnt do tiny strikes

He does 1 smash

[fiery edge]

HUH

[olive wraith]

He has the talent to demolish without stacking

[fiery edge]

that's it?

[dense elbow]

what about it, Rice?

They removed it from Prot

that is all

[fiery edge]

nothing, just nothing

[undone flower]

he pre-stacked before the key start

[olive wraith]

Perma 10 stack yeye

[dense elbow]

Not gonna lie, he would also use demolish as if it was a mortal strike. No freaking weird build up. Just efficent chop.

Get hit, get shrekt.

If mortal strike actually was mortal, I guess we could say he fit the type.

But alas

[undone flower]

samurai is agi warrior.

[dense elbow]

No, str.

[undone flower]

you play souls

[olive wraith]

Ya I don’t see it being agi

[undone flower]

it's agi

[dense elbow]

I dont care, they are just normal warriors. They are based on the same as everyone else. Str.

Not like you see them do weird acrobatics and shit

[undone flower]

no bc paladin is intel warrior

[dense elbow]

Paladin is just a holy knight. So Str.

[undone flower]

depends if it's more spells

[dense elbow]

Int got nothing to do with Paladin.

[undone flower]

it is intel warrior

[dense elbow]

It is faith

You dont need int for faith

[undone flower]

yes you right

[dense elbow]

Str tho, str always come in handy

[undone flower]

if faith is a stat, it is faith obviously

[dense elbow]

So Str

Str is the faith in your own power.

[undone flower]

Strength is when you need nothing else than your bare hands

[dense elbow]

Agility would be 'noooo, not my fault that I died, it is that guy for not healllling! Waaaah'

Agility is getting out of the way.

Dodging the emotional damage of being a shitter

Why rogues are so freaking salty individuals

with an attitude

[undone flower]

yes that's why i say samurai is agi warrior, warrior englobe the main idea

[tepid cedar]

we al know DH is aboiut to be busted good here when new clas comes out

remember aug

lolololol

[dense elbow]

No. Cause a Knight and Samuraii is funtionally the same thing

Not like Samuraii freaking did acrobatics and shit

[dense elbow]

they are just a classic bog standard warrior type

[olive wraith]

This dude isn’t rolling around dodging shit

[undone flower]

they don't fight inthose

[dense elbow]

I mean, he would. Knights did too. Everyone would roll if needed :v

rolling just isnt very combat efficent

as ppl can just watch you roll

and stab there

[marble pilot]

Eh they all died to random nobody with a spear anyway

[olive wraith]

I mean you’re not primarily dodging in this bulky shit

[dense elbow]

Yep

Nobody beat pointystick

Pointystick is best stick

Agi, str or int

[marble pilot]

By self pointy stick. With friend pointy stick and shield

[dense elbow]

pointystick works for all

If we could use pointystick, warrior would be best class in the game

[remote bobcat]

yo @tepid cedar can you do me a favor

[orchid dagger]

...we can

You can mog Polearms

[dense elbow]

We got no real pointystick

[marble pilot]

If they ever make a spear/shield dps spec im swapping.

[dense elbow]

we got weird polearms

[remote bobcat]

I really want @flat river to improve at parsing nm/hc, can you teach him any tips that come to mind pls?

[marble pilot]

And we dont thrust with them we slap with em. It isnt the same thing

[dense elbow]

Heck as night elf, we dont even stick with the pointy end.

[tepid cedar]

sup bro

[remote bobcat]

#fury message

[tepid cedar]

bro legit its just uptime and rotation

[undone flower]

yes i can see polearm spec for warrior

but what flavor

beside polearm

[remote bobcat]

there are tricks to uptime tho

like max ranging gallywix circle

with SR

and also mugzee adds have bonus dmg taken

[dense elbow]

Spear goes well with shield, spear can be longer and be 2h, spear can be shorter and be thrown

spear, pointystick, got infinite potential

[undone flower]

yes it is with a shield

i see the shield my mind

[tepid cedar]

i dont think adds work in mug

afetr wcl changes

[dense elbow]

Adds are removed yep

[remote bobcat]

idk if htey are still included or not

tbh

[tepid cedar]

and to be honesty with u

gallywhiux circle

[remote bobcat]

all of them?

or only the bonus dmg ones

[dense elbow]

Hms hms

[tepid cedar]

ur not gona parse better

by getting 1 sec more uptime

[dense elbow]

I dont care beyond ppl complaining in my ear that they got removed

[tepid cedar]

dmg is super negligioble

[remote bobcat]

if that 1sec means u dont lose ashen jugg

and also, looking for small uptime tricks re-wires the brain to look for more uptime on other fights

like rly honing in on it

[tepid cedar]

well, since i pug. its impossible bc everything is dynamic

and no group timings and shit is ever the same

[undone flower]

P2 in pug is sometime really weird

[remote bobcat]

im doing fury vexie for the first time in a while

mythic

what were the timings again?

just on cd?

[undone flower]

I wouldn’t know when I dps vexie I do whatever

[tepid cedar]

full fucking send bro

unless is something that involves u poppiung avatar hoc and havcing to back up

[remote bobcat]

if i get bladestorm beginning of dmg amp phase

[tepid cedar]

jsut full send the mfr

[remote bobcat]

do i send or wait for adds

i dont remember

[undone flower]

Yeah I have more believe in cd on cd, and if you see it is very close to bikes coming just hold few sec bs

[sullen dove]

I like never get to hit motorcycles cuz we tank boss in middle of the room for some reason

[undone flower]

You have to cd the amp phase obviously

[sullen dove]

someone else’s job

But if u do 6 bikes asap dmg amp is at about like 1:20 or so yea

can ava at lust n shit

[undone flower]

Yeah 6 bikes right away is not consistent in my guild so idc about the boss

[sullen dove]

usually ends up happening at like 2 min for us tho cluegi

[undone flower]

lil sad no getikku patch

[dense elbow]

same, same...

[remote bobcat]

same

[winter shoal]

@slim coral when you were testing slurry were you doing 2sd > ramp > 1sd > all or just 1sd > all?

[tepid cedar]

i hate rik dont think ill be able to pug it

theres no way lol

[whole yacht]

damn

bros crankin it.

rip rik and stix tho

[tepid cedar]

thats normal lemonm

[whole yacht]

oh

[tepid cedar]

noithing to serious

[whole yacht]

nvm

garbage

😂

[tepid cedar]

this is my heroi

;p;

[cinder hinge]

Weird, I got to the Warrior section of the patch notes and theres no fury changes?

[fast mural]

now show mythic

[cinder hinge]

So strange

[tepid cedar]

havenmt done mythic in a long time lol

but all high 90s. havent had time to be in m raids. i think next week ill get a ful myth clear

[fast mural]

gl on bandit